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  • you are a fucking birth defect

  • @pacoloco729 says the coward with no picture

  • @TheInsomniacReviewer i am uglier than you,

    therefore no picture, tardo

  • @pacoloco729 your just a fat bald retard who knows nothing about hockey so go away

  • @TheInsomniacReviewer no more about hockey than you,

    douche bag, so go play with your baby nuts and come up

    with a video that makes sense, fucking stool sample

  • @pacoloco729 keep lying to your self, retard

  • @TheInsomniacReviewer wow, nice comeback, stool

  • @pacoloco729 go away band wagon fan, stop wasting my time

  • @TheInsomniacReviewer no problem, eat shit and die, tard

  • @pacoloco729 go away coward

  • @TheInsomniacReviewer boo hoo, tardo

  • This video is like watching your dog take a shit. It's gross and uncomfortable, but you can't look away.

  • @hotsauce1629 thats fucked up

  • I highly doubt you are a goalie. Goaltending is a brotherhood and we do not, I repeat, do not criticize other goalies, whether they are NHL or pee wee. When I mean playing I don't mean beer leagues or street hockey.

  • @ntfd125 i dont know what fairy world you live in but goalies criticize each other all the time, its human nature to critique others, and yes im an ice hockey goalie

  • @TheInsomniacReviewer I should of used degrade. Moving on. I like how who say regular season wins don't mean anything. How would the team get to the playoffs without the wins. Great goalies are remembered by stats not cups. Cups only measure the organization not the players. Goalies don't need to be fantastic in the playoffs. As long as they make those 1 or 2 big saves and keep the team in the game they've done their job.

  • @ntfd125 goalies need to be good to win the cup usually look at thomas last season, and regular season matters but no where close to as much as the playoffs

  • @TheInsomniacReviewer If you're a goalie then you better work on your off ice schedule. You shouldn't be up that late during the heart of the season espically if its to come on youtube. Also what edge and rocker do you use?

  • @ntfd125 my off ice schedule is fine and if i believe 1/2 im not too picky on my skates

  • lol pens hater

  • @TheLost52 i hate the fact bettman and the refs won the stanley cup for the pens

  • It's respectable that Fleury could be in the top 10, but definitely not number 1... You kept rambling on about how great goalies like, Lundqvist and Brodeur have great defences so they are overated... LOOK AT OSGOOD YOU DUMB FUCK! Best defence in the league infront of him and your don't think he's overated?? OSGOOD is the worst goalie to win a cup... And Fleury never made the big saves in the playoffs?? Vs ovechkin? Carter? Listrom? Your retarted.

  • @GoPensGo377 no fleury is the worst goalie to ever win the cup, he posted a very pathetic 90.8 save average

  • @TheInsomniacReviewer .908% Yeah you are right it's not that good, but he also was part of the most offensive series in NHL history, but when he needed be be big he definitely showed up.. Now tell me how did Osgood not make this list? Please I want to hear from a 1st class dumbass.

  • @GoPensGo377 excuses excuses, east is still weak 90.8 is barely average hes not as good as ppl say he is

  • @TheInsomniacReviewer lol no it's not an excuse, it really was the most offensive series in NHL history. Any goalie wouldve had a terrible save percentage during that series... But what boggled me the most is that you said he couldn't make the "BIG" save in key moments even though he did make MANY during that run... Watch more hockey besides the red wings, your intelligence is as pathetic as the city you live in.

  • @GoPensGo377 it is an excuse, plenty of goalies faced a high scoring team and put up a better save average, and go away i dont even know why im talkin to a band wagon pens fan like u

  • @TheInsomniacReviewer Yeah... I don't even know why im having an argument with someone that knows absolutely nothing about hockey and you most likely make only around 10-20 grand a year living in Detroit.. Sorry.

  • @GoPensGo377 i know more about hockey than u ever will

  • @TheInsomniacReviewer LOL! You clearly don't.. You said Fleury is the worst goalie to ever win the cup because of his .908% in the playoffs even though he was part of offensive series... Osgood finished his career with a total ,905% and your not calling him overrated?!?! If he didn't play for Detroit his save percentage would be 850!!! You know nothing! And you named great goalies in this video overrated but didn't put osgood because your a bias Wings fan, it shows your opinion doesnt count!

  • @GoPensGo377 osgoods career playoff save average was 91.6, thats when it matters osgood was a fine goalie

  • @TheInsomniacReviewer Once again I could get a 920 with the best defense in the league infront of me, I watched 2 years of Detroit vs Pittsburgh in the finals, Osgood does not get tested at all.

  • @GoPensGo377 osgood was tested plenty

  • @TheInsomniacReviewer lol, you got nothing. Just admit that Osgood was overrated and was never teswted as much as fleury in the playoffs.. EVER

  • @GoPensGo377 osgood would was tested way more, fleury plays in the half as talented east

  • @TheInsomniacReviewer hahahahaha, ok that proves you know NOTHING about hockey. The east is more talented then the west, its faster and more skilled. The west is more physical than the east. That is the difference between the two conferences, they both play different styles... Please learn more about hockey before making dumbass commments jesus fuck your dumb and greasy

  • @GoPensGo377 the east is far weaker, i already made a video showing proof

  • @TheInsomniacReviewer Hahaha, your the last person id want to watch a video of showing proof, your not a hockey fan you know nothing ahaha lloolololol. The west is more physical then the east, so they do beat the east in a lot of games because physical>speed. But the east is 100x more offensive then the west, the west is about defense, the east is about offense, so this comes back to original argument... Fleury is faced with tougher shots then west goalies.

  • @GoPensGo377 go away band wagon fan, i know 100 times more about hockey than you ever will

  • @TheInsomniacReviewer clearly you don't because you never have any good counter arguments to mine, seems like the only thing you say is "go away band wagon fan" which just proves that you know nothing about hockey cause its the only thing you say.

  • @GoPensGo377 u obviously are a band wagon fan, you know nothing about hockey and all you are is a waste of my time

  • @TheInsomniacReviewer I know nothing about hockey?? I know way more then you, you have no valid arguments I just dummy you all the time and all you can comeback with is "bandwagon, bandwagon,bandwagon" your the one who knows shit all about hockey, just re read this argument and its clear who knows more hockey.. and its not you..

  • @GoPensGo377 go away band wagon pens fan

  • are you retarded? There's is something wrong with your speech you should get it checked out, oh yeah your also one greasy mother fucker... And I find it funny that your a Red Wings fan and you never put Osgood in the list, but you put Fleury just because he beat your team in the finals. Just proves your bias and you don't know ANYTHING about hockey. And sick city by the way, you must be rich living in Detroit the world's biggest shithole.

  • @GoPensGo377 i didnt even read ur comment ur a band wagon pens fan

  • martin brodeur shouldn't be on this list he has not only surpassed but kicked patrick roy's ass in every single category that pertains to being a goalie. how is luongo not #1? he has never accomplished anything in his whole bullshit career besides playing on an over rated canucks team. that's fucked up to mention dipietro at all hes played maybe 30 games in 4 years he shouldn't be on this list and he's better than luongo any day of the week

  • @steven4rmnewyork brodeur hasnt done anything important since 2003 thats why hes on the list, and ill prolly revise this list and luongo will be higher

  • @TheInsomniacReviewer just saying yeah im not a devils fans but you gotta give credit where credit is due he as afr as statistics stand is the best goalie nobody comes close. just lay off dipeitro tired of hearing people pick on him taking EASY cheap shots because his hip is messed up and he can't maneuver the same wtf like i said before he only has played 30 games if that in like 3 years you can't judge him like that put carey price in his place wtf lool

  • @steven4rmnewyork no his stats are padded because the devils system, id still take patrick roy, and that dipietros own fault for bein an injury prone pussy he needs to toughen up and play

  • @TheInsomniacReviewer hip injury hard to ever come back from...he injured it in the allstar game made a save on gaborik

  • @steven4rmnewyork yea that does suck but hes too injury prone its no excuse

  • I agree but it's not that Brodeur is over rated he's just getting too old for this level now.good video

  • @bruinshockey97 thanks tho i think hes over rated when u get too old like that ur just hurtin ur team

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  • @woodss3 oh i said that cuz for the most part canada have the cockiest fans out there and they tend to act like their teams can do no wrong

  • @TheInsomniacReviewer What you said is totally true dude But do you understand why? Team Canada represents more than a silly game that others forget in the summer. The team = Canadian acheivment and global dominance. The USA uses an F16, Canada uses a sherwood stick. Also Great Canadian players have an ethical image to uphold. Many volunteer, some visit small towns away from major hockey centres to promote the team- there are some that are dicks, but many go out of their way to be responsible

  • @woodss3 yea true to alot of canadians hockey is more than just a game to them its life and i can respect that

  • @TheInsomniacReviewer (cont) I am being slightly idealistic however this ideal is often reality. I remember when the Nucks were LOSERS in the mid-1980s many in my town of (20k) turned out to greet them here. Also, I went to school with Byran Defoe. I can tell you that this guy not only was a home-hero but also donated his time to noble causes. There is something different about Team Canada super stars. Although Canada had the most golds in 2010 Olympics, there was only one gold that mattered

  • @woodss3 really u want to school with bryan dafoe? man ur lucky as hell lol

  • I'd just like to say that you obviously have no idea what it is like to be a goaltender. I'd really like to see you go out onto the ice and have frozen chunks of rubber hurrled at you at incredible speeds and stop every single shot. So what if they don't make every save, they are still top goalies. Yes, I agree, some have had better years, but it's not always about how they do alone, it's about the entire team and how the team plays together.

  • @13lilo1313 nice try dumbass i am a goalie

  • @TheInsomniacReviewer Well obviously you have no fucking clue what ur taking about, you tool

  • @mxvsatvunleashedpro i bet ur a canucks fan, ya u know nothing i know way more about hockey than u, canada sucks ass go away

  • @TheInsomniacReviewer How about you fucking stop talking on a topic you clearly have no experience on, oh and whats that? Canada sucks ass? sorry but Canada fucking won the 2010 GOLD medal and Americans have absolutely no business in hockey, so next time you wanna say shit about Canadians id really like you to look up some stats over the last what 100 years?! and sure bud like you fucking know more about hockey than me i likely doubt that, you think you know shit just becuase you make yt vids

  • @mxvsatvunleashedpro 1. i know way more about hockey than u ever will, and 2. canada's win was a fluke they didnt win by bein the better team they got a fluke lucky goal nothing more

  • @TheInsomniacReviewer 1 You dont know shit about hockey. 2 Canada dominates hockey and hockey is Canada game. 3 please for everyone on youtube stop posting videos!

  • @mxvsatvunleashedpro 1. i know more about hockey than u and ur jealous, and 2. canada doenst dominate shit they got a fluke win nothing special and 3. if u dont like my videos dont watch retard

  • @TheInsomniacReviewer CANADA IS THE FUCKING BEST HOCKEY COUNTY IN THE FUCKING WORLD WE DOMINATE, OWN AND WIN SHIT, UR JUST JEALOUS THAT IM CANADIAN AND MY COUNTRY IS FUCKING AMAZING GO CANADA GO U WILL NEVER KNOW MORE ABOUT HOCKEY THEN ME, YOU WANNA NOW WHY!? BECAUSE IM FUCKING CANDIAN BITCH YOU GO HAVE FUN WITH UR SILVER. MEDAL. I'LL JUST BE HERE WITH MY FUCKING GOLD MEDAL!

  • @mxvsatvunleashedpro lol canada sucks no one is jealous of the dumbest hockey fans and least knowledgeable fans out there

  • @TheInsomniacReviewer atleast we fucking have fans, you talk about fans, oh then what happened at the fucking world juniors this year, in buffalo, not a single american to be found, next time you wanna say shit about canada think about how many amazing fans we have that fucking follow hockey wherever it goes, you can go line up for a fucking basketball game and have a fast food party but we'll be watching hockey, geting up at 6:00 to go play the game we love. its our game and our life, CANADA!!

  • @mxvsatvunleashedpro no one cares about juniors they arent pros so they matter half as much, and theres plenty of passionate american fans u canadians fans just are the dumbest retarded trolls on here

  • for games 6 and 7 "red wings were tired"

    worst excuse i've ever heard.

    im not trying to start a lame youtube rant, but why do you think theres so many more people who disagree with you then there are that agree with you?

  • @Mopo3oB44 because of the large amount of band wagon pens fans

  • @TheInsomniacReviewer how are they bandwagon fans if they suck?

  • @Mopo3oB44 pens do suck they get shit handed to them, but 95% of them never watched the pens before 2006

  • frankly can you explain any reason why the rangers have been in contention in the past 4 years.... and the only thing thats retarded is the rangers awful lack of offence

  • @bav39 rangers made it to the playoffs cuz they had a decent team those 4 years, and i watched the caps rangers series and lundqvist COSTED them the series

  • u really gotta stop talking out of your ass.... henrik lundqvist is the only reason the rangers are mentioned in the same sentence as playoffs

  • @bav39 thats just what kiss ass rangers fan want to believe, in the caps series he was down right retarded and costed the rangers against the caps

  • hey dumbshit, no good seasons since 2003 and what by your expert opinion is a "good season" 60-70 wins, really marty is not overrated at all, 40 wins a year with the exception of 08-09 where he missed the majoritly of the year with injury, seriously if your gonna make bold retarded statements at least know what your talking about, the man has 602 wins and 110 shutouts, hardly stats that would hardly denote an overrated goalie

  • @dgd151 regular season stats dont mean crap, if you dont win the stanley cup then ur season was a piece of shit failure, winning in the regular season is crap if ur a playoff choker, brodeur proves hes borderline retarded come playoff time

  • @TheInsomniacReviewer uhm not really with 99 playoff wins 2nd only to patrick roy, 23 playoff shutouts tied with roy and im sure he might break it, and a 2.01 goals against average in 181 career playoff games, besides that 3 cup wins in 4 apperances check your facts before you run your mouth

  • @dgd151 his stats are padded cuz the devils system, and his wins dont mean as much he plays in the down syndrome quality eastern conference, if brodeur was still elite he would take his team farther then the 2nd round, that shows hes no longer anything special when any goalie in the playoffs out plays him VERY easily

  • @TheInsomniacReviewer the eastern conference is alot better than the west, and besides that every "point" you made is opinion until you can prove any of these points with facts GO FUCK YOURSELF this conversation is over

  • @dgd151 ur just pissed i proved u wrong lol go away band wagoner

  • @TheInsomniacReviewer bandwagoner learn english dumbfuck and you really didnt prove anything im just wasting my time arguing with a retard, please dont comment again and stop wasting my time

  • @dgd151 i did prove u wrong thats why ur pissy, ur just pissed brodeur is too fat and old too win anymore

  • @TheInsomniacReviewer stats motherfucker give me fucking stats that prove your dumbshit opinion come of faggot give me the fuckging stats YOU CANT SO IF YOU CANT RAM YOUR FUCKING KEYBOARD UP YOUR ASS AND JUMP OUT A FUCKING WINDOW

  • @dgd151 look it up he hasnt made it past the 2nd round since 2003 in the pathetic east, shows hes on the down side of his career

  • @TheInsomniacReviewer i know that he is 38 years old, and its only natural for a players skills to decline as they age, but as it stands going by stats he is one of if not the greatest goalies of all time, and if you are going to use the excuse that the devils defense are what got him wins, most teams with good goalies have good defense and that just lends itself to winning , it dosnt matter how good a goalie is if they the other team gets 30-39 shots per game chances are you arent going to win

  • @dgd151 great goalies know how to win and hes been retarded in net since 03, hes hurt his team in every playoff series since the lock out, and yes brodeur in his prime was one of the best, but not fat old brodeur u see now

  • @TheInsomniacReviewer btw pathetic east? in the last 10 years the record for cup wins is split 5 cups for the east and 5 for the west so its not as one sided as you think

  • @dgd151 thats not genuine the 09 cup pens didnt win cleanly so 6-4 if roloson wasnt hurt in 06 then it makes it 7-3

  • @TheInsomniacReviewer woulda coulda shoulda, dosnt matter bc they didnt happen

  • @dgd151 they didnt happen cuz east got sum fluke lucky wins, they werent the better team

  • @TheInsomniacReviewer excuses, a win is still a win no matter how it happened

  • @dgd151 that shows u dont know hockey, fluke wins happen all the time, upsets happen where the under dog upsets the more talented team, come talk to me when u actually watch hockey

  • @TheInsomniacReviewer i know that fluke wins happen, but IT DOSNT FUCKING MATTER, at the end of the day one team won and one team lost, they dont talk about the losers in the same light as winners WINS ARE WINS THATS It, and dont assume you know more than someone else, you arrogant prick

  • @dgd151 the east has 2 fluke stanley cups one was cuz roloson got hurt and 1 isnt even a legitimate win bettman guaranteed pens would win in 09, the east isnt even half as talented, every one knows the east is quite a bit weaker

  • @TheInsomniacReviewer listen i hate the pens as much as the next guy, so ill at least give you that, bettman has his head shoved so far up crosbys ass he dosnt know which way is up, and besides that the bottom end of the west is horrible and these teams are easy to beat which provides the top end teams with easy wins, example the edminton oilers last year, probably a better team this year...maybe but last year they were nothing more than a punching bag

  • @dgd151 well of course both conferences have bottom feeders, in the west its usually the oilers, in the east its usually the thashers and teams like that

  • @TheInsomniacReviewer you really are dumb, talent means nothing when less talented team wins the cup, you can talk all you want about how less talented teams win games over the better teams by flukes, if anything when an upset happens its the better teams fault bc if they were as good as you say they were they would have soundly beaten the inferior team, i guess its that time of the month again so do me and every other person a favor and stop running your mouth

  • @dgd151 again it shows u dont play hockey if u dont think talent means anything, go away and come talk when u play hockey and watch it, no one cares what a band wagon fan since 2006 says

  • @TheInsomniacReviewer bandwagon fan, are you fucking kiding me, do you think im a pens fan

  • @dgd151 lol prolly either a retarded devils fan or an even dumber pens fan

  • @TheInsomniacReviewer how bout you stop making dumb comments and wasting my time ok

  • @dgd151 come talk to me when ur team has talent and u actually play hockey, u dont know shit about hockey

  • @TheInsomniacReviewer its not worth talking to a retard goodbye.

  • @dgd151 ur the one leaving 3-4 comments an hour, get a life troll

  • @TheInsomniacReviewer yea i dont play hockey so what, if the one team was so much better they would have soundly beaten the inferior team

  • @dgd151 lol u dont play hockey, u know nothing

  • @TheInsomniacReviewer yea and what of it, i might not know about the specifics about playing hockey so what, that dosnt mean that i know nothing, you really like making broad statments about people you really dont know dont you

  • @dgd151 u gotta play hockey to fully understand it

  • @dgd151 "the eastern conference is alot better than the west" Dude-are you serious? The East is CLEARLY not as good as the West. Look at the spread from 2nd to last place in the W.Conference to a play off spot. The spread is 5pts (2 victories and an OT loss). The 2nd to last spot in the East is 17points from a playoff spot. (almost 9 victories). I wouldn't be suprised if any of the top 4 Western teams could beat Phily. Also, its more demanding to win in the West b/c of higher travel fatigue

  • @woodss3 yea i already made a video proving the east is inferior

  • "I don't see Chicago doin' much." -Nice Prediction

  • @coloradoavalanche19 cant be right every time

  • I also love how you use the term "Playoff retarded" when you, yourself give the idea that you are an "Actual retard." Though the idea you present could be reality.

    

  • @nealISONUTUBE u cant talk ur so ashamed of how fat and retarded u r that u dont even have a picture so piss off 

  • I've watched this guys videos before, where is your credibility at all? You have a poor understanding of what you are talking about and this one shows it especially. You should re-think what you're going to say before posting them.

  • @nealISONUTUBE i know more about hockey then u ever will

  • brodeur really?

  • @clubpenguinmanyak ya brodeur has been as useless as a pile of dead babies in a clown suit since 2003, 2003 was his last good season

  • @TheInsomniacReviewer just look at his stats from 06-07 that looks like a good season to me.

  • @clubpenguinmanyak u cant go by just stats, look at his playoff performance, he hurt his team more then he helped them, hes on the downside of his career

  • Fleurys not overrated. He's inconsistent and you can't count on him because you don't know which one will show up.

    Btw this list sucks. No one thinks highly of any of these goalies except for the first 2.

    And you put lundqvists, on the overrated and top goalies list, idiot.

  • @lindemikko cuz lundqvist has the potential to be a good goalie, and i wouldnt trust fleury as a back up, hes one of the most over rated and least talented goalies in the nhl, get a life

  • @TheInsomniacReviewer

    least talented? no

    overrated? maybe but i hear no praise of him because all smart hockey fans know how inconsistent he is.

  • @lindemikko fleury is a glorified back up on a high scoring team to pad his wins, he would be a back up at best on any other team

  • i agree with broudeur. hes an asshole

  • @Hyndaiz yup brodeur is no longer an elite goalie

  • @856744 damm right

  • @zashelbs lol

  • guys relax it was a mistake he was rumor to go to ottawa in november this video was made in november jezz people and at this danman5000 baron get the name right holy fuck guys shit happends

  • @zashelbs thanks man

  • i won't say brodeur is overrated but lets say he's just pass his prime loungo is harsh overrated though

  • @dojOdRiFTeR i say brodeur is over rated because he forgot how to win where it matters, the playoffs

  • thats due to his age

  • @dojOdRiFTeR who brodeur? ya hes geting up there, plus hes not really in shape like he used to be

  • fleury i think is harsh undrrated his team doesn;t play defense hockey at all but he comes up with big saves like game 7 final seconds. If you ask me loungo is just trash and imma from vNCOUVER

  • @dojOdRiFTeR i think fleury is heavily over rated, he gets a ton of easy shots because he gives up alot of rebounds and teams know it, and i dont consider him a legitimate stanley cup goalie since he posted a 90.8 which is the worst save average of any modern era goalie to win the cup, he was hardly a difference maker

  • fluery doesn't play ina zone trap defensive team like the wild his save percentage is dam gd for the way the team plays

  • @dojOdRiFTeR eh im iffy on that because he does get pelted with alot of easy shots and bad angle shots because he gives up alot of rebounds and bad goals so players shoot for them quite a bit

  • Ottawa???? he was never played for Ottawa!

  • @sabresman31 ya that was a slip up

  • Damn! You called that Turco!! Nice vid, I would have to say though, Lundqvist isnt really overrated, but he plays so many damn regular season games that he cant work in the playoffs. Huet never being a Cup goalie, 09/10! Otherwise great vid, true about Fleury and Marty.

  • @856744 lol exactly

  • @TheInsomniacReviewer the sens wanted biron during pascal liclare injurys

  • @zashelbs thats true

  • Martain Biron has NEVER been a Senator

  • @Leaffaninalberta yea that was an error on my part

  • completly agree that fleury is so overated he is horrible, pens backup brent johnson is better than him hands down, i disagree with with luongo tho i think he is one of the best in the game.

  • @Peopleareblind yea fleury is crap, luongo is hard to tell i'd say hes over rated now but when he plays his A game hes the best in the league

  • lol, wow. the pens played weak teams?

    so you're saying FLYERS, CAPITALS & HURRICANES are 'weak' ?

    that's funny. -___-' i'll admit MAF is pretty over rated, but he shouldn't be #1.

  • @fireangel240 flyers and hurricanes yes, they didnt have the talent to win, capitals were the only talented team pens played in 09

  • @TheInsomniacReviewer in the east*

  • not sure but, fluery kept them in the finals both times pitts got there.yeah he played bad this year, but jesus..to claim he is overrated...i disagree since, when does anyone say he is the best goalie? if anything he flies under the radar most of the time for talent wise..ohyeah, he is also the youngest goalie on this list, and he has a cup ring...just sayin.

  • @xtremeimport look at his stats in 09 winning the cup a very pathetic 90.8 save average, he wasnt a difference maker

  • @TheInsomniacReviewer I understand, but my friend..stats can be very misleading. not saying your wrong with the stats, but stats are not everything and to just play the stat card can be incorrect sometimes.How about the year before? when he kept them in that series. Stats do not always translate into actual talent/skill.

  • @xtremeimport stats tell enough, and in 08 finals he was terrible let in quite a few soft goals, and 09 finals fleury only had maybe 2 good games, the rest were forgettable, but sumtimes ya stats are bloated, like brodeurs

  • You were right ROFL..wow

  • @stanleycupdream yup i usually am

  • Yeah some goalies you mentioned are contreversial but i think your exactly right about Luongo and fluerry, Im not a canucks fan but atleast luongo can be a top 3 goalie in the nhl hes just in consistant as fuck. And i think Fluerry is way over rated its ridiculous

  • @bryz2034 exactly

  • 2/2 too add Miller to that list, yes he played great in the Olympics but he has not won anything so far. In the Olympics Crosby figured out the way to beat him is through the five hole and that's what Boston did the last series. If he is going to be labeled a great goalie he needs to win something.