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  • I hope liberals use this logic on entitlement spending too...

  • Disban the Army!!!

  • Bush spent FAR more then Obama total on all war spending.

  • Lets not forget it was the Republican LIE machine that started the two unfunded wars we are currently in.

    Democrats don't start wars they just don't end them as soon as they should. That is why wikileaks is necessary.

  • Republicans as we all know have tunnel vision, they're delusional (Bush said he'd won the war in Iraq years ago),they've lied and distorted the truth for so long now that they CAN"T SEE or handle it at all ! LOSERS !

  • You know, it is pretty bad when we have the American War machine completely bankrolled AND our very own NASA facing a possible shut-down due to, you guessed it, funding. Wake up people, why take NASA down when there's 533 billion dollars to spend on cures and housing people of the world. No, this isn't some pinko commie (although I am a socialist) spewing heartwarming fantasy. This could very well happen.

  • I believe this video is skewing some facts. Obama's TOTAL military defense budget is slightly greater than Bush's last budget, although Bush had greater ones earlier on in his presidency. What I believe the critics are mostly criticizing, are the cuts in Missile Defense spending at a time when North Korea is really ramping up their nuclear and missile programs, with a deadly combination of a possible ICBM or other long-range missile that could easily be converted to carry a nuclear warhead.

  • @ForceSmart I guess we should just go and invade them too huh?

  • We already had troops in North Korea for along time but no one ever talks about it.

  • So who we invading this time round? North Korea, Iran or Africa?

  • the prob is that he spending more and mutch more how he spend it wth Its not becausse some1 say something false that make the fact that he will prob waste more money be good ! This is only a mind trick to make you belive that spending more is good.

  • CNN <-Communist News Network

  • The republican party is desperate. Next thing you know they will be calling pizzas to be delivered to the white house that Obama didn't order. They are running out of ways to win the election they think is still going on,

    God they are a sad bunch.

  • LOL. People like you make reading comments worth it every now and then.

  • haha

  • Here's a "fact check" for you, wormy - CNN (Communist News Network).

    Why would anyone believe the swill that CNN peddles?

  • Where's the fact check? Did you forget to include it in your message?

    Don't believe CNN. Look up the budget numbers.

  • Funny also that when Rumsfield tried to make the Pentagon leaner and meaner for "low-intensity conflicts" the Demonrats railed against him.

    Now that Gates is trying to do the same thing, he's a good guy...

    No, it's not a "Cut"; all Republicans are doing is using the terms the way that the lying Demonrats having been using those SAME terms.

  • Please cite one case where Democrats railed against Rumsfeld for wanting to make the military leaner and meaner.

    Rumsfeld said that, and then helped get us into the Iraq debacle, which will end up costing us in excess of $2 trillion. And then he bungled the Iraq adventure, making Vietnam look like a success.

    Please stop making things up, Ted. You sound more and more like Fox News every day.

  • Absolutely. And it made the Democrats look like uneducated idiots when they made the claim too. Interestingly two wrong don't make a right.

    The problem is the two parties are so similar they have to make things up to get their voting base riled up. Both sides talk along party lines then actually do almost the same thing all too often. Lying is lying and is not excused by, "Well he did it first!"

  • Its the same old thing. The Demorats whined when Republicans tried to reduce the amount of increase in Medicare spending back in the 90s.

    The libs whined and called it a CUT, and it too WASN'T.

    Just a LITTLE hypocrisy here from the Demonrats.

    Whats worrisome is that certain programs, necessary to safety and scientific innovation, ARE being CUT, like the F-22, F-35 and NMD.

  • Yes yes yes, yet even if that's true this wasn't a vid of Washington Democrats talking now was it? Nor does it change that the Republicans lied about this spending increase that nets more jobs.

  • if the usual increase is 15% but now 4% then its not a cut but a reduction in budget increase. Accountant sees it as an increase that is marginal, someone in the army sees it as a cut because they aren't getting more of what they were promised.

    IMHO both sides are playing semantics with this to the deteriment of the truth.

  • CastorT64 <- Head-up-ass bush fellator.

  • RedEyes123420 <- Typical dopehead. 

    Hey, dumbass, Obama refuses to legalize dope. So, enjoy being a butt boy when you get sent to prison. :)

  • I never said he was going to legalize it. Looks like you are a presumptuous cock. Good day.

  • RedEyes123420 <- Of course you did. All that dope smoking is rotting your pea brain, little fella.

  • Hmm, what's your problem with the legalization of marijuana?

  • Well if you smoke weed and do coke and drink alcohol in excess I guess you can only aspire to be the president one day?

    And I'm talking about pretty much all of the last few presidents

  • HAHAHA @ your face. Show me where I said obama is going to legalize, or for that matter show me where I said I supported him.

    Oh thats right I didn't, guess you just proved you're an idiot.

  • cynisturb <- kool-aide-drinking Obama sheep

  • If the republicans weren't so unbelievably idiotic, I would wonder if they planned this; accusing Obama of military cuts to make him prove he's really changing nothing from the Bush spending. In reality, I think the truth just happened to surface on MSM for once...enjoy the stuff when you can get it.

  • the trouble with war is that it just gets more and more expensive.

  • I thought libs hated defense spending and were anti war?

    Shouldn't we be cutting all government spending right now, so we can cut out employee taxes for a year and give the working people and small business a much needed break; making recovery possible?

  • Math is hard.

    Talking points are easy.

  • These comments are unreal. If the US military is even entertaining a concept like invasion of China, you can kiss the whole world goodbye.

  • Ed sounds like a liberal now.  NOT

  • Why do Oklahomans keep voting for Jim Inhofe? He says something retarded like every other week.

  • i think the military is the pple running the government. Obama follows their orders. GO USA MILITARY

  • just another "my side is beter than your side" same bulshit; same war.

  • Suddenly all the liberals are hawkish on defense spending?

    More of Obama's magic spell in action.

  • We should Invade China with one million troops and make them Christians.

  • invade China? lol.. in USA current position, China can invade USA 5x before USA can touch China. USA army is so spread thin.

  • Private Contractors, Loyalist, China gov't will collapse. Once it does we invade and gain territory

  • of course there will be more military spending, america wants to pull out of iraq, no fucking shit you would need more resources to bring it together and thats whats obama doing. no sacrifice no victory, everyone knows that, it will gradually decrease over the years to come, this is just some stupid media giving shit about obama. and they are disobeying the rules of attacking the president. same happens for all presidents, media attacks em, give em time to produce the magic for fucks sake

  • As with nick1364 Republicans do NOT let FACTS get in the way when trying to make a point just like the cnogressmen from OK . Fuck facts we are just gonna say what we think is happening and hope someone repeats it and then the public will believe it .

  • I always like reading the comments on the video and commenting on what they had to say on the video. haha

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  • North Korea launches an ICB over Japan

    Obama Response?

    Cut our missile defense by 20%

    More CHANGE we do not need

  • notice how instead of hammering obama for lieing, they hammer somebody else

  • DEFINITION of increase- to make greater, as in number, size, strength, or quality

    DEFINITION of cut- to lower, reduce, diminish

    I dont know much english, but even I can tell the difference. Stupid american republicans can't? Maybe theys should use a dictionary?

  • Did you really think they would let go of the system whereby tax dollars are transferred to the bottomless pockets of the military industrial complex? Of course not. Any president trying to butcher that cash cow will wind up with a magic bullet in his head.

  • U SUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • wanna see youtube sensorship at its worst?

    watch?v=iSV7jVOjIwQ

    SPREAD THIS VIDEO!!!

  • Oboma what a lier

  • How many evil doers do you have to kill before you become one yourself?

  • CNN is pimping for Obama? What a surprise! :)

  • Thats MSNBC not CNN you fucking idiot.

    Cant you even get the basics right?

  • Well we wouldn't expect the Republicans to understand math or honesty would we?

  • "Well we wouldn't expect the Republicans to understand math or honesty would we?"

    That's because they think there's too many words.

  • lol some neocon are still confused. They keep forgetting that Obama is on the same team.

  • Opponents always make Obama sound awesome D: no more torture, less on defense, out of Iraq, ect.

  • China is no longer going to finance the US's endless spending and all of the money for future spending will have to be printed out of thin air. Hyperinflation is coming and Americans who don't prepare now will be broke. Read the articles and signup for the free newsletter at: Inflation . us

  • The left-wing pundits band together to prove that Obama is a KFChickenhawk. This is priceless. XD

  • More like banding together to point out an outright lie by the GOP.

    If you actually *listened* you would understand that most of those quoted are actually against Obama escalating the war in Afghanistan.

    You see there is this thing called "intelligent discourse" where people listen to "facts" and either agree or disagree based on the merits of an idea NOT political affilliation.

    Something that gets completely lost on most right wing pundits I'm afraid.

  • What's with the racist KFC reference?

    And a chickenhawk? 5-Deferment-Cheney ring a bell?

    "This is priceless. XD"

    I suppose anything above 10 dollars is priceless to you, since you can't count any higher.

  • "Scranton Joe" Biden, or "Scrotum Joe," as I like to call him, received no less than 5 student deferments during the Vietnam War. :P

    You remember Joe, don't ya? He's the Senator who voted to authorize the war in Iraq.

  • Are you serious? Really???? I seem to remember a certain republican President who STARTED the war in Iraq and skipped out on all of his wartime duty. You remember pat, don't ya?

  • When Obama was crack-smoking thug in Hawaii, he used to like to take malt liquor pisses off the USS Arizona Memorial.

  • Just curious....patsagainststrats

    while he was supposedly pissing off the USS Arzona Memorial...was he a U.S. Citizen?

  • Fuck off, Beretta.

  • I thought last year Congress and The Senate tried to stop the funding. They were unsuccessful so they had to reduce military funding. So, what did they actually debunk?

  • when did obama say he wanted to cut defense?

    if anything, he wanted to increase it.

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  • Okay, so Inhof is wrong. Now why are Democrats defending this budget? Wasn't Obama supposed to scale back defense spending?

  • Republicans....are fucking morons.

    An increase is the opposite of a cut

  • How much of the pentagons budget is un-accounted for? billions of bucks funneled into black op's. Prepare for staged alien attacks. Probably around 2012 I would guess.

  • Republicans and modern day "conservatives" love their MIC pork.

    GOP welfare . . .

  • Man, you need to get a life. I've seen you more than once copy, paste and spam your comments all over youtube walls.

  • With the unless government spending in the US, hyperinflation is coming and the US dollar will soon be worthless. All Americans who don't prepare now will be broke. Read the articles and signup for the free newsletter at: Inflation . us

  • Let's review Obama's first eighty days in office. Obama has done the following:

    1. Packed his cabinet with tax evaders and lobbyists.

    2. Supported huge pork barrel spending and tax increases.

    3. Insulted disabled kids.

    4. Attempted to force wounded Vets to pay for their own health care.

    5. Given terrorists in Iraq our withdrawal date.

    6. Adopted a policy of appeasement with Iran.

    7. While standing on foreign soil, said that America was "arrogant."

  • I bet you can't wait for the next 8 years!

  • 8 years? Barry will be lucky to make it to 4 years before he's impeached, little fella.

  • impeached by whom?

    sure your head is screwed on tight?

  • lewghost actually thinks that Obama "cares" about him. How pathetic.

  • Well I don't know where you make you're assumptions, no wait I do know, they come out of your ass...

    You still didn't answer the question, obviously you've resorted to side swipes, and useless babble in order to not answer the question.

  • 1. Every POTUS and almost every State Gov. has done that for the last 60 years.

    2. What pork barrel spending? Even Bush stated we need to update our infrastructure, only he didn't attempt to do so. Tax increases for top 5%. Boo Hoo! They reap the most benefits from the FED so fuck'em!

    3. It was meant as an insult to himself.

    4. Republicans ignore vets who can no longer serve and cut their benefits. Discraceful!

  • 5. That date was negotiated by Bush. The fact is that the Iraqi govt forced Bush to agree to a deadline. They want us out by 2010. Obama agreed to the same time line.

    6. What is the basis for this claim? Obama is attempting diplomacy, something the previous admin. knows nothing about.

    7. It was a true statement. So what.

    Go look at the lengthy list of Bush failures and lies and then see what you have to say.

  • why does this need to be defended? shouldn't we be sad we are blowing so much money on useless defense projects? how are F-22s going to defeat terrorists?

    they can kill us with $29 worth of explosives and a garage door opener, and so we're going to spend $300,000,000 (each) on the world's most advanced air to air dogfighter...right.

  • Yes but IF the terrorists secured some of their own fighter jets, then where would we be? We NEED the F-22 to combat this potential threat!

  • Republicans never let the truth stand in the way of a good slogan.

  • Ahahah, Keith Olbermann is a douche.

    He ruined the video. :(

  • long live the Military Industrial Complex!!

  • The two party system is a joke. There is no choice. Both parties subscribe to exactly the same special interests and paid off accordingly. When, oh when, will the public wake up as no one represents them.

  • Looks like the new boss is the same as the old boss. I always new the politicians in this country serve the same masters.

  • Eventually if we don't reverse these spending increases and cut spending dramatically all of the money spent will need to be printed and hyperinflation will make the dollar worthless. All Americans who don't prepare now could soon be broke. Read the articles and signup for the free newsletter at: Inflation . us

  • Someone tell me why we need 11 carrier battle groups? Please.... I'm just dying for a justifiable answer.

  • Know how to keep an asshole in suspense?

  • There are 4 corners to the earth.

    With 3 wars per corner, we are one battle group short of our needs.

    Just as you are a little short yourself

  • Since the earth is round, what "4 corners" are you referring too?

  • Why are all these so called "liberals" defending Obama's military spending INCREASE???

  • Bush would have increased spending too. They are the same. I wonder if those who voted for Obama feel betrayed like so many who voted for Bush.

    There is only one major party, it's called the Establishment Party.

  • The main American that feels betrayed right now is Captain Phillips off the coast of Somalia. Obama hasn't even recognized this poor man's plight. Rahm is trying to figure out how to make to make a lemonade out of this lemon, and Obama will speak after 3 or 4 days on the issue because he likes to be sure what he is talking about before he speaks.

  • Why lately has the right been so wrong, maybe they think you are that dumb?

  • Democrat vs Republican is the same as a TV wrestling match. A choreographed routine to continue the 'offensive' war budget. Do you get that, or are you still cheering for your favorite wrestler?

  • you are talking about public advocacy, political theater - and sure, like in sports you cheer for your team and the other guys are bums - but Obama is making significant changes - to say Obama and Bush are exactly alike and it makes no difference is to ignore the last election, the last 8 weeks, and to assume the entire population of the world are imbeciles -

  • This is nonsense.

    The increases are for salaries and benefits.

    Obama is GUTTING the defensive systems.

    For a partial list, just do a YouTube search for "Truth About Obama Saudi Connection".

    Some key defensive systems are being eliminated.

  • they are cutting military pork spending on unnecessary systems - spending that benefits political districts - that's where the right-wing howling is coming from - and they're using the savings to pay better - what's wrong with that?

  • He is cutting the F22, the F35, the Spaceborne Multiple Kill Vehicle, the Boeing Airborne Laser Anti-Missile system, and many other next generation systems that are designed to guarantee American air supremacy and the ability to shoot down incoming BALLISTIC MISSILES.

    How is the ability to shoot down missiles (which North Korea and Iran are developing) "pork"?

  • it's pork because they are 25yr-old failures at stopping nuclear proliferation - look at North Korea - they were so frightened by Bush's weapons and tough talk that they tested a nuclear bomb - THAT worked out well! - we can always blow up they sites if we want - after 25years, all those anti-missile systems are trillion dollar failures perpetuated by politicians in whose districts the manufacturers create JOBS... besides, the U.S. just can't afford the Pentagon's wish list these days...

  • and, according to the alternate triumphs of different parties, to make the public administration the mirror of the ill-concerted & incongruous projects of faction, rather than the organ of consistent and wholesome plans digested by common counsels & modified by mutual interests. - George Washington

  • sounds like you are talking about the banking industry

  • They serve to organize faction, to give it an artificial & extraordinary force; to put, in the place of the delegated will of the nation the will of a party, often a small but artful & enterprising minority of the community;

  • Once again political parties have skewed reality. Everyone is missing the point... WE INCREASED THE MILITARY INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX! My God, people! When are we going to stop bickering about red & blue, ass & elephant?! Don't you see that both parties are serving an agenda of imperialism.

  • Wordplay is so fun.

    It is a CUT from what was slated before the changes made to it.

    Notice they mention 513b in "the last year" of Bush's term, but when talking of Obama's they talk about 2010 - 2 years away.

    What is it this year?

    Oh wait! We can't tell you, or you'll realize we're all lying to you to make someone else look bad, and the truth would make that backfire on us. :P ROFL

  • Republicans haven't figured out how to add and subtract yet. Bush didn't even include the Iraq war in his budgets.

  • $534 billion for the Department of Defense AND $84 billion in supplemental funds for Iraq and Afghanistan?

    Anyone want to explain why we need so large a military budget if we're withdrawing from Iraq?

  • @mooseofreason

    because getting out costs more than getting in

  • DoctorDoubleX, How much does getting out cost?

  • About 3 times as much as getting in.

  • cynisturb, Do you know the specific amount?

  • The old-school GOPers are just upset that there is really nothing they can call the President out on, so they make shit up.

    That and the fact he's finally getting rid of stuff we haven't needed since the height of the friggin Cold War. Conservatives, by definition, do not like change.

  • ...The ED show? When'd this start coming on?

  • Republicans, and their followers, don't take into account facts or reality. If they want to call an increase disarming America then it will be, to them. These people are so stupid it is a waste of time trying to reason with them.

  • .. Inhof does not know math .. he is an ignoramus from a red state in which *every**one* of its counties went to Palin/McCain. If there is ever such a thing as hell on earth, its got to be Oklahoma.

  • Have you ever been to Utah?

  • terrence0258,

    .. actually I *have* been to Utah on several occasions and a number of my relatives moved there (guess why?) .. If hell were hot, indeed Utah would qualify. As a red state, however, Utah is somehow different .. not quite as prone as Oklahoma or Texas to drink the neo-con Kool-Aid ..

  • Do you work for the GOP fickhound cos it sounds like you're an idiot like the dicks saying the defense budget was being cut.

  • maddox and olbermann defending an increase in defense spending??? must be a democrat in office...

  • Hahahahahahahaha. You said it. Absolute ridiculous so it is. Man, how they all turn so quickly.

  • Show me the clip of Olbermann and MADDOW defending the increased pentagon budget. Pointing out idiocy is not defending anything its just debunking idiots.

  • you just saw the same video i did... or do you just troll around...

  • ...I'm not defending anything right now. Are you talking about MADDO"W"?

  • wasn't refering to anything u said... Just commenting on how reps don't care bout spending when bush in office, but now they do... and dems complain about the size of the defense budget, until obama in office... now suddenly they the increase in defense spending under Obama is a tool against the repubs... its such a joke....

    clowns to the left of me,

    jokers to the right....

  • You misinterpreted the contents of the video, obviously.

    Maddow, Olbermann, Stewart, Schultz, etc weren't praising Obama's expanding of the defense budget, but rather defending him against stupid and obviously partisan attacks made against him.

    "clowns to the left of me,

    jokers to the right.... "

    Yeah yeah yeah, we know.

  • Naw, I was just joking with you. My last name just happens to Maddox, so I acted as if you were talking about what I had said. If you observe the discussion, I haven't said anything else before this. lol

  • i wish TPM would show us more facts rather than stupid faux news and msnbc clips.

  • MSNBC should have a show based on debunking every lie fox news says

  • The only people who take fox news seriously would not be interested in hearing what MSNBC has to say - fact and logic mean nothing to them.

  • That show would take up their entire day, considering the number of lies Fox "News" spews.

  • That's not a bad idea, why not pitch it? It might catch on maybe even make it an interactive audience event. You should try it, reach out to people who might be interested like the young Turks Huffington Media matters why the hell not run with it? The worst that could happen is they say no.

  • Why do they do that your right on the money no pun intended

  • Obama is spending $18 Billion in defense MORE than Bush? So much for "change."

  • Lol. Olbermann needs to learn how to do math first before he tells others. $534 Billion is 19 Billion more than 515, not 21. If it were at least 20, the clue would be that the number after the 3 would be over 5.

  • $513 billion, pay attention.

  • If you listen to his words, he quotes the defense budget of '09 as being 513. It is different depending on your sources and where you define "defense spending". If you use Olbermann's number of 513 as the '09 defense budget, and Olbermann's number of 534 for the '10 budget, than his difference of 21 is correct.

  • It's about what he's spending it on: programs that create jobs and are used efficiently. There's nothing wrong with military spending, and when you're fighting two wars, it's important that they're properly funded. We also need defense for the future. What we don't need is wasted money, like cruisers that go 5 billion over budget, or planes whose functionality that are no longer required.

  • I would just like to add to what corsikaa said about the TYPES of programs we are spending it on by saying that Bush severely underfunded the VA in its fight to help Iraq vets not just with the "physical" injuries they have suffered but with PTSD - Obama is using more of the money to fund the VA and other programs we actually may need.

  • OBAMA WILL FUCK US ALL

  • Why don't you save him the time and go fuck yourself.

  • im a republican and i believe we need to say more stupid stuff.

  • what a disgusting rouse to defend the increase of the military budget

  • Do the math!

  • Republicans flat out LIE. They tell knowing LIES.