Not Pau....he not really a pf, he is but isn't at the same time....I don't think he has the total offensive package to be on this list, even tho he has the credentials on defense...Dwight offense isn't as good as people think, as I have watched him miss many easy shots, and free throws...ugh...he's big and strong thats why he scores, and defensively he's a beast, but stats aren't everything....pluuuuus, where is Lebron? I think he AT LEAST ties Paul Pierce...Peirce be good, but Lebron is da king
pau is soft!!while i saw him playin in spain i thought he could fall at any moment cos it seemed he was runnin like heidi(a spanish animation) i didnt like that choice
N finally does the NBA n College work together like the USA Basketball commitee n NBA does. NO. So the NBA wouldnt come close to giving out awards for achievements in college. u here them talk about the NBA dream teams etc in the NBA at all times. They work with Olympic commitee to get their players in. It helps the NBA market to cuz y r u thinking they wanting euro NBA teams. N like I said, the Olympics start after the NBA season once again its impossible for them to do it if they wanted to.
i definately disagree about pierce over lebron, pierce has 3 allstars in his team including himself and they had veterans( posey, cassell..etc) that know how to win. lebron has a mediocre team that is really inconsistant at times, because they decide to build a team of 3pt/ mid range shooters(Big Z, wally, etc..). they do that to try to run the team around lebron instead of trying to get a 2nd scorer like the lakers did(see how that worked out. the celtics also have a really good coach in rivers
I respect ur opinion but less see, doesnt Dirk have 3-4 allstars. Oh less see my friend, Lebron has 3-4 counting himself to. Big Z, Wally, Ben n Lebron all been all stars. N so we have to punish someone for having allstars on their team come on now. N Mike Brown is a heck of a coach. Guy was with Pop n the Spurs Dynasty just like Pop was with the great Larry Brown once. If u really look at the Cavs u will c y they struggle. No excuse for Lebron shooting 30-35% against the Celtics. None.
acually big z/big ben are past their prime, and was wally ever a allstar iono, but their team is really inconsistant but lebron still manages to lead his team to 50 wins. and saying that the celtics dont have a better team than the cavs w/o pierce and the cavs w/o lebron? the cavs is a crap team they are just so inconsistant offensively, defensively id say they are good but they are horrible w/o lebron, what i mean was the celtics have 3 superstars including pierce theres a difference.
LOL u keep saying the all stars n the Cavs have the same amount of all stars bro. They just reached the Finals a yr ago n u saying they r horrible or not a good team. Plz. No such excuse. It helps being in the weak east to. N u act like these guys were just proven Mega stars when Paul, KG n Allen never REACHED A FINALS WHEN LEBRON, BIG Z N BEN did. Yes Wally was an all star. I tell people i dont lie on any player. A.I 76ers team that went to the Finals was a Def Team. Doesnt mean they sux.
Lebron avg. 50 win cuz he has a good coach, great D team n being in the Weak East helps alot n I mean alot. Joe Johnson with the Hawks(under.500)s wayyy horrible than the Cavs n they push the Celtics to 7 gm. Big Z was good against KG. Lebron got some help bro. Same many all stars the Celtics got. Like u said, Experience is a factor which the Cavs got in Ben, Wally. Cavs went 7 gms with the Celtic champs. Had a chance to win to if Lebron didnt stink up the place with his 19-35% shooting.
Just cuz u have all stars on ur team doesnt mean u r guarantee to win. Its how u work together n a great leader leads his players like Pierce did. I still dont c how u fail to c that Pierce guarded Lebron n Lebron guarded Pierce n u see who won the matchup. LOL. They even went to a gm 7. Both couldnt win on the road. So that evens it up. N Pierce got the better in the end. Simple as that.
Thanks koolfool1. It is just my opinion n I respect anyone who disagrees. But I dont lie on any athlete. This is what I seen this whole basketball year of 07-08 season n I put the prove that I seen or use to show why I believe these guys were the best in 07-08 season.
Yea n u r soo dead right in ur description. People dont mention how Pau made Duncan n KG shoot in the low 40% from field in those playoffs series. U know ur stuff. Great stat. Pau had a great yr no doubt. If Lamar step it up like u said, the Lakers could have put up a better fight. Not saying they would have won, but Lamar should help made it a better series. Good stuff.
N u r right again, Dwight Howard was robbed of the Defensive player of the Year. Howard defensive stats blows KG away this yr. Wow Howard 12 rbs a gm, 2 blks, n 0.9 stls-basically one stl a gm, help his team improve n get to the playoffs n won a gold medal but get no DPOY. KG D stats 1.2 blks, 9 rbs, 1 stl n he wins the Defensive player of the year. Man u r right Veo, the NBA is a joke. That is horrible. Howard had a wayy better yr defensivly than KG. Wow. U r know ur stuff.
Great Music to bro. The vid is hot. U c things that r just amazing my friend. By far the smartest Basketball or sports fan I ever met seriously. U know ur stuff.
Veo I agree with u 100%. It is common sense. Paul faces Bron in the gms that counts the most to get the prize which is the NBA Finals trophy. He beats Lebron in the playoffs n plays better than him in that series. Then Pierce wins the Finals MVP over Kobe n the Lakers n wins trophy but still gets no love. That is sad. Pau was awesome to. Lamar wasnt much help like u said. U know ur sports Veo. N u r right Pau played in the biggest gms a bball player can ever play in. Finals n Gold Medal gm.
also...pau winning defensive player of the year, the guys a bean pole. it was his softness around the rim that enabled boston to dominate rebounds - thats where the nba finals was won. a good defensive player not only plugs up the hole but gets defensive rebounds...plus its not like he shut any1 down especially when odom usually took kg
How in the heck is pau winning defensive player of the year is a joke when his stats r dead similar with overrated KG for DPOY. Tell me that. Look at the stats before u start assuming my friend. I dont lie on any player. How am i lying. If KG D was soo good why in the world is the Celtics going 7 gms with the lame Hawks. We know their Off is good, by if his d is so amazing y r they going 7 gm with the Cavs n Hawks. Pierce prove he can guard the best of the best but KG. Give me a break.
yes his stats r pretty similar...garnett has 1 more steal a game, 1 more rebound and 0.3 less blocks than pau (and same points). so i would say from this that kg has better stats, but if u say they are dead similar then the team defence should be taken into account especially since players in paus and garnetts positions r team defensive organisers...boston kept opposition to 90ppg and 42%fg, whilst LA 101ppg n 45%fg for the season, which is more indicative of defence than 1 series with the hawks
Ok, u sit here n talk about team D n we know or at least I know that Boston play the weak east teams more than the west in a season. So iM not shock they SEASON D WAS LOOKING GOOD, BUT PLAYOFFS IS PART OF THE NBA SEASON TO N WE SAW A MAJOR DROP OFF THERE. Playoffs r for the best teams to compete n to let a sub .500 team take u 7 gms n this so call DPOY is on the roster, Horrible. No excuse for that n they have super stars on the team. KG is the suppose anchor n he was garbage. nuff said.
im saying pau is not an anchor and i suppose kg wasnt an anchor for a small amount of time out of the 82 game season however i have also said that kg doesnt deserve DPOY, id prefer howard, camby or josh smith
Softness, so I guess having a slim Lamar Odom at PF doesnt help the reason the Lakers were getting out rebounded huh. LOL. Yea, u know what u r talking about my friend. Lamar is a joke on Defensive. Anybody can out rebound them. KG got Perkins who is all he does is rebound n putbacks. LOL. He is better than Lamar I know that. LOL. Nuff said there. I could see if Bynum was on the Lakers in the Finals n this happen, but Lamar my friend. LOL.
thats rite having lamar at pf doesnt help, but having both pau and odom in the front court doesnt help at all as they are both soft. part of defence is cleaning up the boards and if pau was in fact DPOY he would be able to ensure that the fight on the boards was equal, which he didnt, garnett on the other hand had 3 more rbs a game in that series whilst perkins did shit all (<20mins a game, 3.5 rbs)
Sure Pau isnt physical, KG isnt either. Kg is alittle more athletic than Pau, but size wise, neither r built, no point there. was KG was size up with Odom a good part of the series n he was able to out rebound him there on boards. Him n pau were close in rebounds. 3 more rebounds. U ACT LIKE 3 IS 5-10 more. LOL. That isnt a big difference in a stats like that in a series. Both had double digits rbs. Nobody stats r really going to be equal come on now, but close, we see that alot. Be real now.
however i didnt even say that kg should get DPOY, i agree with what others have said and if DPOY was based on individual stats rather than team stats, which i dont think it is, then perhaps dwight howard, marcus camby and posibly josh smith would be more deserving
In the past Stats r important when it comes to DPOY of the year. Check history my friend. N wat D KG has. Huh. 7 gms with the lame hawks. Didnt anchor crap on the post. Nuff said there. N KG has better stats, what in the world r u looking at. Did he shoot better than Pau, no. There stats r pretty much similar. Give me a break. Im not talking about team D, does a team get the DPOY or a player. From what i remember a player n that was what I was referring to my friend.
man i like ur vids...but r u retarded? paul pierce better than lebron? lebron carries his team...pp carries boston with 2 other players...gasol over tim duncan and kg, thats a joke, kg turned his franchise around and duncan is 1 of the best pfs to ever player the game and is still producing far better than gasol
Retarded, man u guys really dont get it do u. They faced in the playoffs n tell me who had the better damn stats. Bron or Pierce huh. Pierce force Lebron to 30-35% shooting. How hard is it to c that Pierce is better than the guy. When Doc ran the Offense through Pierce at the end of Gm 6 the Finals was won. Doc saw KG couldnt do it n Allen was double, n he ran it through Pierce n he showed the world how great he really was. Gasol over Duncan n KG is a joke. LOL.
Doc ran the offense through Pierce in Gm 6 against the Cavs n it was over. Lebron had really one good gm against the Cs n that was gm 7. That is it. If u notice what I said, after Pierce took control of the Cs off the Celtics never went to a gm 7 again. LOL. I saw that but I guess most didnt n once again i dont lie. Check it out. Lebron 30-35% shooting bro against Celtc n horrible 19% FG in 1st 3-4 gms at that. Run off through Paul, Celtics never went to a gm 7. LOL.
Pierce didnt force Lebron to 30-35% shooting it was Boston. I would like to see a time when someone with athletic ability like Pierce could ever defend Lebron single-handedly which is what you are suggesting he did. Note that the fact they did hold Lebron is testament to how Cavs relies on Lebron enabling Boston to just focus on him in D, whilst Boston has options on offence, which makes it difficult for Cavs to just defend pierce. Its also testament to KGs effectiveness as a defensive anchor
So who was responsible for guarding Lebron. LOL. Pierce guarded him for majority of the series. Nuff said. Sure he couldnt guard him every position that is impossible for anyone to do. Breaks, pic n roll, etc stops that. hat is in every team sport to. LOL. Cant guard the player ever position. But majority n responsible yea. Big Z was killing KG n the commentators Experts was big on that, but did the Cavs give him many opportunities no. That is how it is when u claim to have a one man team.LOL.
LOL Gasol has a Gold medal bro. Dude is the main reason for giving his team spain a chance for that n then nearly beats USA again in a shootout. Did Duncan get a gold medal no. I love Tim n he is the best power forward ever. But this Year Pau was better. He got to the Finals n beat Tim this year in the playoffs. Pau had a better yr than KG cuz he help made the Lakers better, got to the Finals n nearly won a gold medal against the USA. How hard is that to c. Pau was in the big gms twice.
Pau was in the big gms twice. Finals n Gold Medal round in the Olympics. Now if that isnt greatness in one yr, especially for Spain a team not know for their basketball skills, but this guy help put them on the map. Get outta here. Pau had a better season if u factor that in. KG has a team of stars bro. Cassell(he is experince n an former all star), Pierce(A BEAST), Allen(An sharp shooter). N Pau, well just Kobe n his spanish teammates(Spain team) but yet he plays in two big gms of the yr.
how is spain not known for their basketball skills...they have 7 players who are currently or have been in the nba,rubio who is scheduled to join the nba. they also won gold in the 2006 fiba championships and silver in eurobasket 2007...yep cassell huge contribution...didnt even play every final game, compare to lakers who have the mvp, odom, pau as well as exp of fisher and many more rings than boston players i would say that pau had a pretty good team in the lakers, one more than capable
Is China known for Basketball when they have like 4-5 players that played in the NBA huh. No. Spain just recently got on the map. U talk like they been known for a good bit of yrs. No they havent. They just won gold a few yrs ago. Manu to. They had a good bit of players, but was they known for basketball for a great bit of yrs no. That is my point. People r just starting to see how great they are. Come on now. U act like Spain was winning in the early 2000 n previous yrs, that is my point.
no china isnt known for bball cus they havent won anything. i havent said anything about spain being good for a long time, which by the ways is irrelevant. all i was saying is that some1 made out like pau took a crappy spanish team to the gold medal game, when in fact spain has a very good team. and ill repeat again
I would love to see how many people would pic spain that yr to win the gold. LOL. Not counting the European countries, especially spain of course. I bet u will be surprise to see not many. LOL. So for the guy to be the face of Spain n a super star in the NBA says alot not just to me, but to million other im very sure of that.
THE OLYMPICS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH FIRST TEAM SELECTION lol, so wat pau won silver, kg has won gold too, its not a big deal and is totally irrelevant
Totallyt irrelevant when the NBA always honor those guys when they come back in commentary n speaking their greatness for the world to respect. Get out of here. The rest the NBA doesnt put it there cuz what the Olympics starts after the NBA season, so they couldnt do it if they wanted to. But wat is wrong with some one pointing out how truly great a guy is when he is playing in two big gms. Plz. Kg didnt win a gold this yr did he. Oh ok.
no he didnt but that was because hes bin there done that. the nba doesnt put the olympics into the calculations because its not part of the nba. its fine and correct to honour a guy for getting gold, but its just wrong to base an nba award on a non-nba event, that the majority of nba players didnt get to attend. plus pau did lose both of those big games/series. however i wud like to say that he is truly great 4 playing in those 2 games, but not deserving of the nba first team
Ok so if the NBA doesnt then y do they even make a Dream Team huh. Why do they use NBA players to play in the Olympics. LOL. Tell me that. Why is NBA officials n NBA(key word)employees r putting together a team to play in the olympics but its not related to the nba, they also talk about these players results doing nba events LOL. Come on now. This is absurd. N like i said earlier they cant base there stats from Olympics cuz the Olympics starts after the season. LOL.
ok im going to lay this out for u nice n simple because it appears im talking to a child;
1. all countries olympic teams use professional players, however if u would note durant and oden were named in the US team from 2006 when in COLLEGE.
2. the US team is selected by a separate organisation - USA Basketball, of which the NBA is a MEMBER, not the organiser. This organisation selects the coaches and the best coaches happen to 4 from the nba
2(cont.). The boss of USA basketball is Jim Tooley, not David Stern. This means that the NBA officials are not putting together a team to play in the olympics.
3. Hello, commentators are allowed to talk about events outside of the nba, just beuse they talk about them doesnt mean they are part of the nba
4. even if the olympics were before the awards, they wouldnt base awards on olympic results...becaues it aint an nba event. it would be like giving out nba awards based on college results
2. The Olympic basketball organization n the NBA r one big family. They work together(key word)to not just compete but market their product. Cuz the Dream team was successful but also is an iconic figure in all of sports which was comprised of WHAT NBA PLAYERS. So can the Olympics just take an NBA player without NBA consent is the question huh. Ahh NO! N the olympic organization has NBA experience employees like for example Jerry canlangelo (National director). Nuff said.
Oh lets get technical. LOL. Well less see. 1. Greg Oden n Durant would be NBA players if it wasnt for the rule to be out of high school for 1 yr. So u r making no point to me there. They r basically rented by college for one yr n then to the pros they go which they were from the start but due to the rule they cant play, but yet we do see Jenning who just got out of high school is WHAT PRO IN THE EUROPEAN LEAGUE WHERE OTHER NBA PLAYER PLAY ALSO. So ur point is irrelevant. Moving on.
N last but not least, more importantly since u seem to be an infant, it Veo's opinion n not NBA. he says this is HIS NOT THE NBA'S ALL FIRST TEAM BASE ON THIS YRS BASKETBALL N NOT JUST THE NBA BASKETBALL PROFORMANCE. Like i said, they r NBA players even if they played in the Olympics as well. LOL. So that is y he says NBA's all first team cuz the players r NBA players regardless. Makes perfect since to an avg common human being with common sense. An infant like ur self wouldnt understand.
being in the nba first team has nothing to do with winning a gold medal in the olympics, plus only playing 28 minutes a game? I wouldnt say he carried Spain, although he was a major piece of their puzzle, in a country that played very good team basketball.
Well it does say VeoShock presents, not the NBA does it. Im not the NBA. I said this is my opinion n last time I check NBA Players r use in the Olympics. I rate BBAll yr, not just NBA. Oh 28 mins a gm is playing a good bit of mins. LOL. That is nearly 30 mins. Pau is the face of Spain. That is my point. When u ask people about the best player in Spain, who they say. LOL. Sure he was a major piece of the puzzle. A country that recently just got on the map basketball wise LOL.
yeh it says veoshock presents all nba first team LOL...basically if ur choosing an nba first team based on events outside the nba, ur not choosing an nba first team LOL...mayb a world first team LOL (c i can laugh out loud as well - isnt it fun)LOL
What doesnt the guy play for the NBA. Isnt that his job. Isnt he consider the best in the world. What sense r u making. Go ask anybody n see wont they tell u he is in the NBA. Those r the players that dominate the NBA right. LOL(i cant lol out loud to as well as my 3 month old niece lol so nothing special)
mate u jus said "veoshock presents first nba team" i think i am making perfect sense to say that in presenting the first nba team, non nba events arent considered. so mayb u meant to say this is ur world first team, because the nba is based on nba events and the olympics = not nba event. maybe he should go play a pickup game with a bunch of the rest of the best players in the world and then u can crown him first nba team based on how well he goes in that game....thats how irrelevant olympics r
How is it when its his opinion of the NBA players that play in the NBA n they just so happen play in the olympics also against other nba players n they r playing the one sport that the Olympics n NBA have on the highest levels now - BASKETBALL. Come on now. All of the guys that play r in the NBA or another pro league. So they both REPRESENT THE BEST OF THE BEST. What is the problem with that. like I said not to long ago, Im sure the NBA would recognize them if it didnt start after NBA season.
through ready some of his crazy as comments and watching this video, ive came to the conclusion that veoshock doesnt kno what the hell he is talking about
Crazy ass comments LOL. If anybody dont know its ur ass. Anybody with common sense could easily see the points Im making. U dont have a brain to sit here n disrespect my opinion. Never have I disrespect urs on anybody else but if u come at me with this garbage, then I c u r not a smart human being. I prove my points n the stats dont lie. I know wat I c n i respect if u dont agree. But when stat with this garbage talk about crazy ass comment crap then u cross the line.
R u all who r saying Lebron had a better season than Paul or Kobe. LOL. NO offense to none of u all, but to me no way Lebron had a season better than them this yr. Dude shot horrible in the playoffs, especially against Pierce. LOL. He shot something like top 4 worst FG% ever. No way is he in the Top 5 in my opinion. I think it was 19% FG against Pierce in the first 3-4 gms of the series n horrible 30-35% FG for that playoffs series. Kobe n Paul r easily better to me.
veoshock come on bro lets stop with lies on bron we all kno he had an overall better season than paul pierce or any other SF for that matter, and has had for every season except his rookie year.and on top of all of that bron carried his team through 7 games against one of the most deadly combination of allstars ever assembled on one team. and even though they lost bron showed up big time, unfortunately his team wasnt much help.
Stop the lies, that is one thing I dont do my friend is lie on any athlete. Check the stats. Bron shoots an air ball nearly every gm, n like I said he shot an horrible 30-35% against the Celtics in the playoffs. Big Z was more consistent in my opinion. That is horrible. I dont have to lie, he didnt have a better season when a guy wins the Finals n Finals MVP, Played amazing d on Kobe n on Bron, n his leadership. Paul is underrated. Dude carried the Celtics easily.
N people love to through out Lebron team wasnt big help. Wat. Delonte West played the best ball in the playoffs I ever seen him play n Big Z was consist. Lebron shooting 30-35% but that is ok tho. Get outta here, if anyone didnt come to play it was Lebron n to show u how supposely great Lebron is, where in the world was he in the USA gm against Spain huge, on the bench while three guys I name in my top 5 were on the floor, CP3, Kobe, Pau Gasol. No lie, only the truth my friend.
To me Pau was the reason the Lakers made the Finals. Kobe help to, but the main reason the Lakers made it in my opinion was Pau. Made Kobe gm alot easier n made everyone else better to. KG wasnt the reason the Celtics made it to the Finals to me, he help but wasnt the reason. I feel Al Jefferson(who is a beast so far with the TWolves but have aways to go)could have help the Celtic if he stayed especially cuz of the weak East at the time this past yr to. KG is good but Pau was better this yr.
Pau stats of 07-08(Lakers): Pts 18.8, 1.8 blks, 0.5-1.0 stls, 8.8 or 9 rbs, 3.5 asts, 58.9 fg, went to the Finals with Lakers n nearly won the Gold against the USA. Pau could have easily won the DPOY like KG if u look at stats. LOL. Niether KG or Pau should have won it in my opinion tho.
Garnett stats of 07-08(Celtics): Pts 18.8, 1.2 blks, 3.4 asts, 9 rbs, 53.9 Fg% n won Finals against Lakers with Celts.
Comparing the two of Pau n Garnett. Garnett is a good player but he wasnt the reason the Celtics won the title. Paul Pierce was the main reason for that n Allen was consistent in the Finals more than KG was. Garnett was given the Defensive player of the Year for no reason. No way he was better defensily than Howard, Dalemert, Amare, Duncan etc. No way. I can prove that to. The NBA give awards away these days without value. Not like it use to be. But this is just my opinion tho.
Its simple to me why Garnett isnt on the list. Pau Gasol was more valuable than Garnett in my opinion. Sure both made it to the Finals, but Pau also was a huge factor in the Olympic Games. Pau has won a gold there n nearly beat the U.S. this yr as well. So he played for two of the biggest prizes in one yr. So to me he had the better yr than Garnett. Dwight all I can say is a beast. Won the Slam Dunk contest with a genius list of dunks, rob of Defensive player of the yr, made Magic better.
Chris Paul and dwill dwade and Kobe melo and durant (lebron overated) Amare and Duncan Dwight and bosh
Zachjh10 1 year ago
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paul pierce over lebron and gausol out for tim duncan and put dwight at center
dwienke707 1 year ago
PG: Deron Williams
SG: Dwayne Wade
SF: lebron James
PF: Tim Duncan
C: Yao ming
PHILLIPisaMONSTAR 1 year ago
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what about lebron at sf, and Amare Stoudemire deserves power forward position.
dwienke707 1 year ago
Best line up...
PG:Steve Nash/Jason Kidd
SG:Kobe Bryant/Dwayne Wade
SF:Lebron James/Carmelo Anthony
PF:Kevin Garnett
C:Dwight Howard
MrFreestyler002 1 year ago
best line up
PG-Chris Paul/Steve Nash ...LAwl
SG-Wade/Kobe
SF-Lebron/Anthony
Pf-TIM DUNCAN?
C-DWIGHT
JameelMamogkat 2 years ago
best line up:
PG - Chris Paul/ Tony Parker
SG - Kobe Bryant
SF - LeBron James
PF - Amare Stoudamire
C - Dwight Howard
bingo148 2 years ago
Not Pau....he not really a pf, he is but isn't at the same time....I don't think he has the total offensive package to be on this list, even tho he has the credentials on defense...Dwight offense isn't as good as people think, as I have watched him miss many easy shots, and free throws...ugh...he's big and strong thats why he scores, and defensively he's a beast, but stats aren't everything....pluuuuus, where is Lebron? I think he AT LEAST ties Paul Pierce...Peirce be good, but Lebron is da king
CDJcomedy 2 years ago
well, lebron is WAY better than pierce and garnett played better than gasol
maurixjames23 2 years ago
Tim Duncan should be PF!
testicularcancer 2 years ago
Pierce over Lebron? Wow.....
idontknow750 2 years ago
paul pierce over lebron and gausol out for tim duncan and put dwight at center
ineedmoneylol 3 years ago
what about lebron at sf, and Amare Stoudemire deserves power forward position.
tmn4u 3 years ago
are u serious no lebron hes better then every on in this video let alone at sf.
ramsstlouis99 3 years ago
U did see that clip where Pau dunk on KG right one on one. Check it out, cuz Pau isnt going to dominant Pau. Pau is great to.
VeoShock 3 years ago
noooooo! Lebron James? Kevin Garnett?
maurixjames23 3 years ago 2
pau is soft!!while i saw him playin in spain i thought he could fall at any moment cos it seemed he was runnin like heidi(a spanish animation) i didnt like that choice
joncuesta95 3 years ago
N finally does the NBA n College work together like the USA Basketball commitee n NBA does. NO. So the NBA wouldnt come close to giving out awards for achievements in college. u here them talk about the NBA dream teams etc in the NBA at all times. They work with Olympic commitee to get their players in. It helps the NBA market to cuz y r u thinking they wanting euro NBA teams. N like I said, the Olympics start after the NBA season once again its impossible for them to do it if they wanted to.
EvoCize 3 years ago
i definately disagree about pierce over lebron, pierce has 3 allstars in his team including himself and they had veterans( posey, cassell..etc) that know how to win. lebron has a mediocre team that is really inconsistant at times, because they decide to build a team of 3pt/ mid range shooters(Big Z, wally, etc..). they do that to try to run the team around lebron instead of trying to get a 2nd scorer like the lakers did(see how that worked out. the celtics also have a really good coach in rivers
TNAngIe 3 years ago
I respect ur opinion but less see, doesnt Dirk have 3-4 allstars. Oh less see my friend, Lebron has 3-4 counting himself to. Big Z, Wally, Ben n Lebron all been all stars. N so we have to punish someone for having allstars on their team come on now. N Mike Brown is a heck of a coach. Guy was with Pop n the Spurs Dynasty just like Pop was with the great Larry Brown once. If u really look at the Cavs u will c y they struggle. No excuse for Lebron shooting 30-35% against the Celtics. None.
VeoShock 3 years ago
acually big z/big ben are past their prime, and was wally ever a allstar iono, but their team is really inconsistant but lebron still manages to lead his team to 50 wins. and saying that the celtics dont have a better team than the cavs w/o pierce and the cavs w/o lebron? the cavs is a crap team they are just so inconsistant offensively, defensively id say they are good but they are horrible w/o lebron, what i mean was the celtics have 3 superstars including pierce theres a difference.
TNAngIe 3 years ago
LOL u keep saying the all stars n the Cavs have the same amount of all stars bro. They just reached the Finals a yr ago n u saying they r horrible or not a good team. Plz. No such excuse. It helps being in the weak east to. N u act like these guys were just proven Mega stars when Paul, KG n Allen never REACHED A FINALS WHEN LEBRON, BIG Z N BEN did. Yes Wally was an all star. I tell people i dont lie on any player. A.I 76ers team that went to the Finals was a Def Team. Doesnt mean they sux.
VeoShock 3 years ago
Lebron avg. 50 win cuz he has a good coach, great D team n being in the Weak East helps alot n I mean alot. Joe Johnson with the Hawks(under.500)s wayyy horrible than the Cavs n they push the Celtics to 7 gm. Big Z was good against KG. Lebron got some help bro. Same many all stars the Celtics got. Like u said, Experience is a factor which the Cavs got in Ben, Wally. Cavs went 7 gms with the Celtic champs. Had a chance to win to if Lebron didnt stink up the place with his 19-35% shooting.
VeoShock 3 years ago
Just cuz u have all stars on ur team doesnt mean u r guarantee to win. Its how u work together n a great leader leads his players like Pierce did. I still dont c how u fail to c that Pierce guarded Lebron n Lebron guarded Pierce n u see who won the matchup. LOL. They even went to a gm 7. Both couldnt win on the road. So that evens it up. N Pierce got the better in the end. Simple as that.
VeoShock 3 years ago
Lebron won the lebron and pierce mathup by far in the playoffs. lebron had 42 points in game seven
tmn4u 3 years ago
u must know what you're talking about.
good vid...
but i think
Penny Hardaway should be there..
jokes
canunotg 3 years ago
This is a very interesting list you got here. You backed up your opinions very well though. So I'm not going to argue.
koolfool1 3 years ago
Thanks koolfool1. It is just my opinion n I respect anyone who disagrees. But I dont lie on any athlete. This is what I seen this whole basketball year of 07-08 season n I put the prove that I seen or use to show why I believe these guys were the best in 07-08 season.
VeoShock 3 years ago
Yea n u r soo dead right in ur description. People dont mention how Pau made Duncan n KG shoot in the low 40% from field in those playoffs series. U know ur stuff. Great stat. Pau had a great yr no doubt. If Lamar step it up like u said, the Lakers could have put up a better fight. Not saying they would have won, but Lamar should help made it a better series. Good stuff.
EvoCize 3 years ago
N u r right again, Dwight Howard was robbed of the Defensive player of the Year. Howard defensive stats blows KG away this yr. Wow Howard 12 rbs a gm, 2 blks, n 0.9 stls-basically one stl a gm, help his team improve n get to the playoffs n won a gold medal but get no DPOY. KG D stats 1.2 blks, 9 rbs, 1 stl n he wins the Defensive player of the year. Man u r right Veo, the NBA is a joke. That is horrible. Howard had a wayy better yr defensivly than KG. Wow. U r know ur stuff.
EvoCize 3 years ago
Great Music to bro. The vid is hot. U c things that r just amazing my friend. By far the smartest Basketball or sports fan I ever met seriously. U know ur stuff.
EvoCize 3 years ago
Veo I agree with u 100%. It is common sense. Paul faces Bron in the gms that counts the most to get the prize which is the NBA Finals trophy. He beats Lebron in the playoffs n plays better than him in that series. Then Pierce wins the Finals MVP over Kobe n the Lakers n wins trophy but still gets no love. That is sad. Pau was awesome to. Lamar wasnt much help like u said. U know ur sports Veo. N u r right Pau played in the biggest gms a bball player can ever play in. Finals n Gold Medal gm.
EvoCize 3 years ago
also...pau winning defensive player of the year, the guys a bean pole. it was his softness around the rim that enabled boston to dominate rebounds - thats where the nba finals was won. a good defensive player not only plugs up the hole but gets defensive rebounds...plus its not like he shut any1 down especially when odom usually took kg
dsamon7 3 years ago
How in the heck is pau winning defensive player of the year is a joke when his stats r dead similar with overrated KG for DPOY. Tell me that. Look at the stats before u start assuming my friend. I dont lie on any player. How am i lying. If KG D was soo good why in the world is the Celtics going 7 gms with the lame Hawks. We know their Off is good, by if his d is so amazing y r they going 7 gm with the Cavs n Hawks. Pierce prove he can guard the best of the best but KG. Give me a break.
VeoShock 3 years ago
yes his stats r pretty similar...garnett has 1 more steal a game, 1 more rebound and 0.3 less blocks than pau (and same points). so i would say from this that kg has better stats, but if u say they are dead similar then the team defence should be taken into account especially since players in paus and garnetts positions r team defensive organisers...boston kept opposition to 90ppg and 42%fg, whilst LA 101ppg n 45%fg for the season, which is more indicative of defence than 1 series with the hawks
dsamon7 3 years ago
Ok, u sit here n talk about team D n we know or at least I know that Boston play the weak east teams more than the west in a season. So iM not shock they SEASON D WAS LOOKING GOOD, BUT PLAYOFFS IS PART OF THE NBA SEASON TO N WE SAW A MAJOR DROP OFF THERE. Playoffs r for the best teams to compete n to let a sub .500 team take u 7 gms n this so call DPOY is on the roster, Horrible. No excuse for that n they have super stars on the team. KG is the suppose anchor n he was garbage. nuff said.
EvoCize 3 years ago
im saying pau is not an anchor and i suppose kg wasnt an anchor for a small amount of time out of the 82 game season however i have also said that kg doesnt deserve DPOY, id prefer howard, camby or josh smith
dsamon7 3 years ago
Softness, so I guess having a slim Lamar Odom at PF doesnt help the reason the Lakers were getting out rebounded huh. LOL. Yea, u know what u r talking about my friend. Lamar is a joke on Defensive. Anybody can out rebound them. KG got Perkins who is all he does is rebound n putbacks. LOL. He is better than Lamar I know that. LOL. Nuff said there. I could see if Bynum was on the Lakers in the Finals n this happen, but Lamar my friend. LOL.
VeoShock 3 years ago
thats rite having lamar at pf doesnt help, but having both pau and odom in the front court doesnt help at all as they are both soft. part of defence is cleaning up the boards and if pau was in fact DPOY he would be able to ensure that the fight on the boards was equal, which he didnt, garnett on the other hand had 3 more rbs a game in that series whilst perkins did shit all (<20mins a game, 3.5 rbs)
dsamon7 3 years ago
Sure Pau isnt physical, KG isnt either. Kg is alittle more athletic than Pau, but size wise, neither r built, no point there. was KG was size up with Odom a good part of the series n he was able to out rebound him there on boards. Him n pau were close in rebounds. 3 more rebounds. U ACT LIKE 3 IS 5-10 more. LOL. That isnt a big difference in a stats like that in a series. Both had double digits rbs. Nobody stats r really going to be equal come on now, but close, we see that alot. Be real now.
EvoCize 3 years ago
however i didnt even say that kg should get DPOY, i agree with what others have said and if DPOY was based on individual stats rather than team stats, which i dont think it is, then perhaps dwight howard, marcus camby and posibly josh smith would be more deserving
dsamon7 3 years ago
In the past Stats r important when it comes to DPOY of the year. Check history my friend. N wat D KG has. Huh. 7 gms with the lame hawks. Didnt anchor crap on the post. Nuff said there. N KG has better stats, what in the world r u looking at. Did he shoot better than Pau, no. There stats r pretty much similar. Give me a break. Im not talking about team D, does a team get the DPOY or a player. From what i remember a player n that was what I was referring to my friend.
EvoCize 3 years ago
man i like ur vids...but r u retarded? paul pierce better than lebron? lebron carries his team...pp carries boston with 2 other players...gasol over tim duncan and kg, thats a joke, kg turned his franchise around and duncan is 1 of the best pfs to ever player the game and is still producing far better than gasol
dsamon7 3 years ago
Retarded, man u guys really dont get it do u. They faced in the playoffs n tell me who had the better damn stats. Bron or Pierce huh. Pierce force Lebron to 30-35% shooting. How hard is it to c that Pierce is better than the guy. When Doc ran the Offense through Pierce at the end of Gm 6 the Finals was won. Doc saw KG couldnt do it n Allen was double, n he ran it through Pierce n he showed the world how great he really was. Gasol over Duncan n KG is a joke. LOL.
VeoShock 3 years ago
Doc ran the offense through Pierce in Gm 6 against the Cavs n it was over. Lebron had really one good gm against the Cs n that was gm 7. That is it. If u notice what I said, after Pierce took control of the Cs off the Celtics never went to a gm 7 again. LOL. I saw that but I guess most didnt n once again i dont lie. Check it out. Lebron 30-35% shooting bro against Celtc n horrible 19% FG in 1st 3-4 gms at that. Run off through Paul, Celtics never went to a gm 7. LOL.
VeoShock 3 years ago
Pierce didnt force Lebron to 30-35% shooting it was Boston. I would like to see a time when someone with athletic ability like Pierce could ever defend Lebron single-handedly which is what you are suggesting he did. Note that the fact they did hold Lebron is testament to how Cavs relies on Lebron enabling Boston to just focus on him in D, whilst Boston has options on offence, which makes it difficult for Cavs to just defend pierce. Its also testament to KGs effectiveness as a defensive anchor
dsamon7 3 years ago
So who was responsible for guarding Lebron. LOL. Pierce guarded him for majority of the series. Nuff said. Sure he couldnt guard him every position that is impossible for anyone to do. Breaks, pic n roll, etc stops that. hat is in every team sport to. LOL. Cant guard the player ever position. But majority n responsible yea. Big Z was killing KG n the commentators Experts was big on that, but did the Cavs give him many opportunities no. That is how it is when u claim to have a one man team.LOL.
EvoCize 3 years ago
LOL Gasol has a Gold medal bro. Dude is the main reason for giving his team spain a chance for that n then nearly beats USA again in a shootout. Did Duncan get a gold medal no. I love Tim n he is the best power forward ever. But this Year Pau was better. He got to the Finals n beat Tim this year in the playoffs. Pau had a better yr than KG cuz he help made the Lakers better, got to the Finals n nearly won a gold medal against the USA. How hard is that to c. Pau was in the big gms twice.
VeoShock 3 years ago
Pau was in the big gms twice. Finals n Gold Medal round in the Olympics. Now if that isnt greatness in one yr, especially for Spain a team not know for their basketball skills, but this guy help put them on the map. Get outta here. Pau had a better season if u factor that in. KG has a team of stars bro. Cassell(he is experince n an former all star), Pierce(A BEAST), Allen(An sharp shooter). N Pau, well just Kobe n his spanish teammates(Spain team) but yet he plays in two big gms of the yr.
VeoShock 3 years ago
how is spain not known for their basketball skills...they have 7 players who are currently or have been in the nba,rubio who is scheduled to join the nba. they also won gold in the 2006 fiba championships and silver in eurobasket 2007...yep cassell huge contribution...didnt even play every final game, compare to lakers who have the mvp, odom, pau as well as exp of fisher and many more rings than boston players i would say that pau had a pretty good team in the lakers, one more than capable
dsamon7 3 years ago
Is China known for Basketball when they have like 4-5 players that played in the NBA huh. No. Spain just recently got on the map. U talk like they been known for a good bit of yrs. No they havent. They just won gold a few yrs ago. Manu to. They had a good bit of players, but was they known for basketball for a great bit of yrs no. That is my point. People r just starting to see how great they are. Come on now. U act like Spain was winning in the early 2000 n previous yrs, that is my point.
EvoCize 3 years ago
no china isnt known for bball cus they havent won anything. i havent said anything about spain being good for a long time, which by the ways is irrelevant. all i was saying is that some1 made out like pau took a crappy spanish team to the gold medal game, when in fact spain has a very good team. and ill repeat again
dsamon7 3 years ago
I would love to see how many people would pic spain that yr to win the gold. LOL. Not counting the European countries, especially spain of course. I bet u will be surprise to see not many. LOL. So for the guy to be the face of Spain n a super star in the NBA says alot not just to me, but to million other im very sure of that.
EvoCize 3 years ago
THE OLYMPICS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH FIRST TEAM SELECTION lol, so wat pau won silver, kg has won gold too, its not a big deal and is totally irrelevant
dsamon7 3 years ago
Totallyt irrelevant when the NBA always honor those guys when they come back in commentary n speaking their greatness for the world to respect. Get out of here. The rest the NBA doesnt put it there cuz what the Olympics starts after the NBA season, so they couldnt do it if they wanted to. But wat is wrong with some one pointing out how truly great a guy is when he is playing in two big gms. Plz. Kg didnt win a gold this yr did he. Oh ok.
EvoCize 3 years ago
no he didnt but that was because hes bin there done that. the nba doesnt put the olympics into the calculations because its not part of the nba. its fine and correct to honour a guy for getting gold, but its just wrong to base an nba award on a non-nba event, that the majority of nba players didnt get to attend. plus pau did lose both of those big games/series. however i wud like to say that he is truly great 4 playing in those 2 games, but not deserving of the nba first team
dsamon7 3 years ago
Ok so if the NBA doesnt then y do they even make a Dream Team huh. Why do they use NBA players to play in the Olympics. LOL. Tell me that. Why is NBA officials n NBA(key word)employees r putting together a team to play in the olympics but its not related to the nba, they also talk about these players results doing nba events LOL. Come on now. This is absurd. N like i said earlier they cant base there stats from Olympics cuz the Olympics starts after the season. LOL.
EvoCize 3 years ago
ok im going to lay this out for u nice n simple because it appears im talking to a child;
1. all countries olympic teams use professional players, however if u would note durant and oden were named in the US team from 2006 when in COLLEGE.
2. the US team is selected by a separate organisation - USA Basketball, of which the NBA is a MEMBER, not the organiser. This organisation selects the coaches and the best coaches happen to 4 from the nba
dsamon7 3 years ago
2(cont.). The boss of USA basketball is Jim Tooley, not David Stern. This means that the NBA officials are not putting together a team to play in the olympics.
3. Hello, commentators are allowed to talk about events outside of the nba, just beuse they talk about them doesnt mean they are part of the nba
4. even if the olympics were before the awards, they wouldnt base awards on olympic results...becaues it aint an nba event. it would be like giving out nba awards based on college results
dsamon7 3 years ago
2. The Olympic basketball organization n the NBA r one big family. They work together(key word)to not just compete but market their product. Cuz the Dream team was successful but also is an iconic figure in all of sports which was comprised of WHAT NBA PLAYERS. So can the Olympics just take an NBA player without NBA consent is the question huh. Ahh NO! N the olympic organization has NBA experience employees like for example Jerry canlangelo (National director). Nuff said.
EvoCize 3 years ago
Oh lets get technical. LOL. Well less see. 1. Greg Oden n Durant would be NBA players if it wasnt for the rule to be out of high school for 1 yr. So u r making no point to me there. They r basically rented by college for one yr n then to the pros they go which they were from the start but due to the rule they cant play, but yet we do see Jenning who just got out of high school is WHAT PRO IN THE EUROPEAN LEAGUE WHERE OTHER NBA PLAYER PLAY ALSO. So ur point is irrelevant. Moving on.
EvoCize 3 years ago
N last but not least, more importantly since u seem to be an infant, it Veo's opinion n not NBA. he says this is HIS NOT THE NBA'S ALL FIRST TEAM BASE ON THIS YRS BASKETBALL N NOT JUST THE NBA BASKETBALL PROFORMANCE. Like i said, they r NBA players even if they played in the Olympics as well. LOL. So that is y he says NBA's all first team cuz the players r NBA players regardless. Makes perfect since to an avg common human being with common sense. An infant like ur self wouldnt understand.
EvoCize 3 years ago
being in the nba first team has nothing to do with winning a gold medal in the olympics, plus only playing 28 minutes a game? I wouldnt say he carried Spain, although he was a major piece of their puzzle, in a country that played very good team basketball.
dsamon7 3 years ago
Well it does say VeoShock presents, not the NBA does it. Im not the NBA. I said this is my opinion n last time I check NBA Players r use in the Olympics. I rate BBAll yr, not just NBA. Oh 28 mins a gm is playing a good bit of mins. LOL. That is nearly 30 mins. Pau is the face of Spain. That is my point. When u ask people about the best player in Spain, who they say. LOL. Sure he was a major piece of the puzzle. A country that recently just got on the map basketball wise LOL.
EvoCize 3 years ago
yeh it says veoshock presents all nba first team LOL...basically if ur choosing an nba first team based on events outside the nba, ur not choosing an nba first team LOL...mayb a world first team LOL (c i can laugh out loud as well - isnt it fun)LOL
dsamon7 3 years ago
What doesnt the guy play for the NBA. Isnt that his job. Isnt he consider the best in the world. What sense r u making. Go ask anybody n see wont they tell u he is in the NBA. Those r the players that dominate the NBA right. LOL(i cant lol out loud to as well as my 3 month old niece lol so nothing special)
EvoCize 3 years ago
mate u jus said "veoshock presents first nba team" i think i am making perfect sense to say that in presenting the first nba team, non nba events arent considered. so mayb u meant to say this is ur world first team, because the nba is based on nba events and the olympics = not nba event. maybe he should go play a pickup game with a bunch of the rest of the best players in the world and then u can crown him first nba team based on how well he goes in that game....thats how irrelevant olympics r
dsamon7 3 years ago
How is it when its his opinion of the NBA players that play in the NBA n they just so happen play in the olympics also against other nba players n they r playing the one sport that the Olympics n NBA have on the highest levels now - BASKETBALL. Come on now. All of the guys that play r in the NBA or another pro league. So they both REPRESENT THE BEST OF THE BEST. What is the problem with that. like I said not to long ago, Im sure the NBA would recognize them if it didnt start after NBA season.
EvoCize 3 years ago
What's the song?
JcFtw0 3 years ago
through ready some of his crazy as comments and watching this video, ive came to the conclusion that veoshock doesnt kno what the hell he is talking about
dirt45 3 years ago
Crazy ass comments LOL. If anybody dont know its ur ass. Anybody with common sense could easily see the points Im making. U dont have a brain to sit here n disrespect my opinion. Never have I disrespect urs on anybody else but if u come at me with this garbage, then I c u r not a smart human being. I prove my points n the stats dont lie. I know wat I c n i respect if u dont agree. But when stat with this garbage talk about crazy ass comment crap then u cross the line.
VeoShock 3 years ago
can u explain why lebron isnt first team?
no offense, but is there even a reasonable explanation?
antnee12345 3 years ago
R u all who r saying Lebron had a better season than Paul or Kobe. LOL. NO offense to none of u all, but to me no way Lebron had a season better than them this yr. Dude shot horrible in the playoffs, especially against Pierce. LOL. He shot something like top 4 worst FG% ever. No way is he in the Top 5 in my opinion. I think it was 19% FG against Pierce in the first 3-4 gms of the series n horrible 30-35% FG for that playoffs series. Kobe n Paul r easily better to me.
VeoShock 3 years ago
veoshock come on bro lets stop with lies on bron we all kno he had an overall better season than paul pierce or any other SF for that matter, and has had for every season except his rookie year.and on top of all of that bron carried his team through 7 games against one of the most deadly combination of allstars ever assembled on one team. and even though they lost bron showed up big time, unfortunately his team wasnt much help.
dirt45 3 years ago
Stop the lies, that is one thing I dont do my friend is lie on any athlete. Check the stats. Bron shoots an air ball nearly every gm, n like I said he shot an horrible 30-35% against the Celtics in the playoffs. Big Z was more consistent in my opinion. That is horrible. I dont have to lie, he didnt have a better season when a guy wins the Finals n Finals MVP, Played amazing d on Kobe n on Bron, n his leadership. Paul is underrated. Dude carried the Celtics easily.
VeoShock 3 years ago
N people love to through out Lebron team wasnt big help. Wat. Delonte West played the best ball in the playoffs I ever seen him play n Big Z was consist. Lebron shooting 30-35% but that is ok tho. Get outta here, if anyone didnt come to play it was Lebron n to show u how supposely great Lebron is, where in the world was he in the USA gm against Spain huge, on the bench while three guys I name in my top 5 were on the floor, CP3, Kobe, Pau Gasol. No lie, only the truth my friend.
VeoShock 3 years ago
lebron at sf & kg as pf
bigboy32playa 3 years ago
great list. its missing bronbron and garnett though. i like the music u put in, as always
alvinjason10 3 years ago
To me Pau was the reason the Lakers made the Finals. Kobe help to, but the main reason the Lakers made it in my opinion was Pau. Made Kobe gm alot easier n made everyone else better to. KG wasnt the reason the Celtics made it to the Finals to me, he help but wasnt the reason. I feel Al Jefferson(who is a beast so far with the TWolves but have aways to go)could have help the Celtic if he stayed especially cuz of the weak East at the time this past yr to. KG is good but Pau was better this yr.
VeoShock 3 years ago
Pau stats of 07-08(Lakers): Pts 18.8, 1.8 blks, 0.5-1.0 stls, 8.8 or 9 rbs, 3.5 asts, 58.9 fg, went to the Finals with Lakers n nearly won the Gold against the USA. Pau could have easily won the DPOY like KG if u look at stats. LOL. Niether KG or Pau should have won it in my opinion tho.
Garnett stats of 07-08(Celtics): Pts 18.8, 1.2 blks, 3.4 asts, 9 rbs, 53.9 Fg% n won Finals against Lakers with Celts.
VeoShock 3 years ago
Comparing the two of Pau n Garnett. Garnett is a good player but he wasnt the reason the Celtics won the title. Paul Pierce was the main reason for that n Allen was consistent in the Finals more than KG was. Garnett was given the Defensive player of the Year for no reason. No way he was better defensily than Howard, Dalemert, Amare, Duncan etc. No way. I can prove that to. The NBA give awards away these days without value. Not like it use to be. But this is just my opinion tho.
VeoShock 3 years ago
Its simple to me why Garnett isnt on the list. Pau Gasol was more valuable than Garnett in my opinion. Sure both made it to the Finals, but Pau also was a huge factor in the Olympic Games. Pau has won a gold there n nearly beat the U.S. this yr as well. So he played for two of the biggest prizes in one yr. So to me he had the better yr than Garnett. Dwight all I can say is a beast. Won the Slam Dunk contest with a genius list of dunks, rob of Defensive player of the yr, made Magic better.
VeoShock 3 years ago
great video
derkach77 3 years ago
garnett?
rimrocka7183 3 years ago
heey nice vid ;)
falaty123 3 years ago