No it wasnt, it was too fragile and too complex and by the time they got it right Mclaren had to make do with customer spec ford v8's, it was a technological step forward yes but it needed to be more reliable
By mid 1991 it was clear Williams had the best car (if not the most reliable) when they won 4 straight wins, and actually led the Constructors Championship for a brief moment.
In 1992 the all dominant Williams FW14B was released. At this time McLaren were using the powerful Honda V12, and Senna had won the last 3 out of 4 championships. At the start of 1992 Mansell won the first 5 races. He took a record 14 poles (still the record) and won 9 races (then an all time record).
Yes I agree the FW14B was dominant the FW14 wasn't, it was quick but it broke when it mattered the most, and in formula 1 just having the fastest car doesn't guarantee the championship
So did Lotus in 1967, 1977, 1985 (although Senna may have made it look faster than it actually was) Ferrari in 1974.
Renault in 1982 (very fast, but far from reliable)
A whole heap of other cars that had the pace but not the reliability.
Jackie Stewart once said:"To win a race you first need to finish it." Alain Prost used to great extent in the turbo era, whereas Senna was more about raw speed at any moment. Wish I had seen that era.
In 1992 McLaren-Honda were still competitive, compared to the rest, but not compared to Williams-Renault FW14B.
So Honda saw which way it was going and pulled out of the sport.This meant McLaren was suddenly in a situation it didn't have an engine for 1993, and had no other option than the customer Cosworth V8 (Benetton used their top engine). In 1993 the Lamborghini engine was tested, and it would have been funded by Chrysler (possibly renamed that too) Peugeot got the nod for '94.
Im pretty sure Honda pulled out because of a disagreement in values with Mclaren, not because they thought they were incapable of winning, after all tehy made their own car in secret for 1993 but never raced it
Interesting, I didn't know that. I've read somewhere that the immense power of the Honda V12 at the end of 1992 made the McLaren appear competitive on circuits with long straights. Ironically enough the 1993 MP4/8 could have won the title if it had a better engine. So had Honda developed a new V10 for 1993...
Honda made a car of their own in 2000 too, but since Harvey Postlethwaite died, they scratched that plan and simply powered BAR. They were only ever really competitive in 2004.
In 1993 they built the RC100 which was used in a crash test to comply with the F1 crash testing regulations, then built the RC101 which was also used in a crash test and finally the RC101B in 1994 which no one knows what happened to, they canned it after they decided to supply engines for indycar instead
Cool, didn't know that. I suppose that's the reason Honda never built the engine for the McLaren F1 roadcar? When Gordon Murray was planning it he asked Honda to build the V12 to his specs, but they told him the couldn't, so he asked BMW instead, which he had experience with from his Brabham days.
So if Honda were concentrating on their own F1 car, wasting resources to build a roadcar engine for a car which wasn't even all Honda was unthinkable for them. Any other reason?
@Marillionado i hope they do. they're my long time favourite team. although i follow drivers more than i follow teams, williams has always been the team i go for. these days, i go for mark webber and red bull, but i'd be happy for williams to win again.
@Marillionado Will F1 return to those glorious days in the near future? will they ever use v12 engines that rev up to 20,000 rmp again, oh how I long for those glorious days :)
I love these F1 years better than todays alien cars en politics bullshit
liveleakftw 1 week ago
The Williams FW14 was the car that ended McLaren's and Senna's dominance of the sport. That makes it a very important and good car.
It ushered in the era of "Williams dominated 90's"
McLarenMercedes 1 year ago
@McLarenMercedes
No it wasnt, it was too fragile and too complex and by the time they got it right Mclaren had to make do with customer spec ford v8's, it was a technological step forward yes but it needed to be more reliable
trsc27 11 months ago
@trsc27
By mid 1991 it was clear Williams had the best car (if not the most reliable) when they won 4 straight wins, and actually led the Constructors Championship for a brief moment.
In 1992 the all dominant Williams FW14B was released. At this time McLaren were using the powerful Honda V12, and Senna had won the last 3 out of 4 championships. At the start of 1992 Mansell won the first 5 races. He took a record 14 poles (still the record) and won 9 races (then an all time record).
McLarenMercedes 11 months ago
@McLarenMercedes
Yes I agree the FW14B was dominant the FW14 wasn't, it was quick but it broke when it mattered the most, and in formula 1 just having the fastest car doesn't guarantee the championship
trsc27 11 months ago
@trsc27
True. McLaren learned that in 2005.
So did Lotus in 1967, 1977, 1985 (although Senna may have made it look faster than it actually was) Ferrari in 1974.
Renault in 1982 (very fast, but far from reliable)
A whole heap of other cars that had the pace but not the reliability.
Jackie Stewart once said:"To win a race you first need to finish it." Alain Prost used to great extent in the turbo era, whereas Senna was more about raw speed at any moment. Wish I had seen that era.
McLarenMercedes 11 months ago
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McLarenMercedes 11 months ago
@trsc27
In 1992 McLaren-Honda were still competitive, compared to the rest, but not compared to Williams-Renault FW14B.
So Honda saw which way it was going and pulled out of the sport.This meant McLaren was suddenly in a situation it didn't have an engine for 1993, and had no other option than the customer Cosworth V8 (Benetton used their top engine). In 1993 the Lamborghini engine was tested, and it would have been funded by Chrysler (possibly renamed that too) Peugeot got the nod for '94.
McLarenMercedes 11 months ago
@McLarenMercedes
Im pretty sure Honda pulled out because of a disagreement in values with Mclaren, not because they thought they were incapable of winning, after all tehy made their own car in secret for 1993 but never raced it
trsc27 11 months ago
@trsc27
Interesting, I didn't know that. I've read somewhere that the immense power of the Honda V12 at the end of 1992 made the McLaren appear competitive on circuits with long straights. Ironically enough the 1993 MP4/8 could have won the title if it had a better engine. So had Honda developed a new V10 for 1993...
Honda made a car of their own in 2000 too, but since Harvey Postlethwaite died, they scratched that plan and simply powered BAR. They were only ever really competitive in 2004.
McLarenMercedes 11 months ago
@McLarenMercedes
In 1993 they built the RC100 which was used in a crash test to comply with the F1 crash testing regulations, then built the RC101 which was also used in a crash test and finally the RC101B in 1994 which no one knows what happened to, they canned it after they decided to supply engines for indycar instead
trsc27 11 months ago
@trsc27
Cool, didn't know that. I suppose that's the reason Honda never built the engine for the McLaren F1 roadcar? When Gordon Murray was planning it he asked Honda to build the V12 to his specs, but they told him the couldn't, so he asked BMW instead, which he had experience with from his Brabham days.
So if Honda were concentrating on their own F1 car, wasting resources to build a roadcar engine for a car which wasn't even all Honda was unthinkable for them. Any other reason?
McLarenMercedes 11 months ago
umm not driven by alain prost if it's fw14... mansell, patrese and hill as test driver. great newey designs the fw14 and fw15...
what's with the dark industrial complex look of the williams factory... so mid 80s
tyresmoke 1 year ago
What is the music at the start
TheHoustonRocket 1 year ago
no idea sorry mate
Abzstar111 1 year ago
Ok Thanks anyway Great video.
TheHoustonRocket 1 year ago
@TheHoustonRocket That's the sound of the 90s
SEGAjdb 1 year ago
@TheHoustonRocket
Just used shazam, and it says the music is Libre Parcours - Rene Aubry
alvindarkness 11 months ago
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alvindarkness 11 months ago
@alvindarkness Thank you very much i appreciate it a lot but it wasn't that song.
Thanks anyway. :)
TheHoustonRocket 11 months ago
@TheHoustonRocket
Hi Houston, I just grabbed the album, its track 13 titled "libre parcours". Theres no mistaking it.
alvindarkness 11 months ago
Will Williams F1 team return to be victorious in the near future? How I long for these victorious days
Marillionado 2 years ago 4
who knows maybe if they use the mercedes engine
Abzstar111 2 years ago
@Abzstar111 Maybe, but so far their drivers arent looking strong. I think its time that Barichello retires.
TaKeItLiKaMaN 10 months ago
@Marillionado i hope they do. they're my long time favourite team. although i follow drivers more than i follow teams, williams has always been the team i go for. these days, i go for mark webber and red bull, but i'd be happy for williams to win again.
brucecheewai 2 years ago
@Marillionado Will F1 return to those glorious days in the near future? will they ever use v12 engines that rev up to 20,000 rmp again, oh how I long for those glorious days :)
everythingman987 1 year ago
SENNA BATIO A MANSELL EN MONACO 92 ERA SENNA CONTRA EL FW14B
SENNA vs NEWEY
gollemmethalo 2 years ago
FW14 (1991) and FW14B (1992) were driven by Nigel Mansell and Riccardo Patrese.
Damon Hill and Alain Prost car was the FW15 of 1993.
Sembee83 3 years ago 12
O melhor carro de F1 de todos os tempos, nem nosso ídolo "Senna" bateu essa máquina, imaginem não mão dele!
culturamarcas 3 years ago
para mi el meor fue el F1 2002
paolo1986 2 years ago
I had this video on VHS years ago and lost it, great video, would like a copy of the original if possible
brett944 3 years ago
Amazing!! I love that car
ngendro 3 years ago