@iknowfacts Yes. Graphics card RAM is slightly different to usual RAM. You can tell the difference because graphic card RAM is referred to as "GDDR2" or "GDDR3" or even up to "GDDR5". The GDDR is an acronym for "Graphics Double Data Rate" - remove the "G" and it becomes "Double Data Rate" or, DDR.
I had t rate this video as good because he told you the absolute truth. This post im making is July 6 2011 and i have to say.DDR3 is cheaper but just as crappy as it was before.It is stil slow and my DDR2 Massively out performs it.I am looking for DDR2 motherboards now an i intend on upgrading my CPU to a Quad 3.4 Mhz so i can overclock it. The motherboard is now more important.DDR2 is way better.I dont care about the heat.Which it does get hot in here.But i want performance more than anything.
I never seen to much of a difference between DDR2 and DDR3, i currently run DDR2 1066 at 1100mhz because of my OC on my AMD phenom II 940 cpu. I did get my hands on a Core i5 with DDR3 1600 and there was no difference on games with my ATI 5850 in either system, Sold the i5 and kept my Phenom II 940 (kept it cause it OC like a beast and had better hardware unlike the i5 with the cheap dell mobo)
Quick reference for you DDR3 buyers. This is from my own experience playing with a lot of systems.
Don't look at the speed in MHz alone when you're trying to pick out the best motherboard/RAM combination. Unless you buy the best DDR3, you're going to have rather anemic latency. If you take the latency of your average DDR3 kit vs your average DDR2 kit, your results will be something like this most of the time.
@windson7 yeah but i will run quite slower because it will run at 1333 :) and its a little bit risky :) but by the way if u want try it, :) but you should buy 1600 modules only ;)
hey guys ... according to ram which ones will be lower heat output.. i was thinking upgrading from 4gb ddr3 -6-8gb ddr3 depending on heat output... my laptop is currently doing some heavyweight 3d rendering ... the laptop would never survive without a standard fan blowing it because the temperature is above what the nvidia 310m graphic could handle ... any idea ???
@yourmortalenemy167 This isn't about Video cards, it's about ram... He said that he isn't talking about video cards... whatever... If you have PCI-E in your motherboard than you can put 9800 DDR3, GTX 460 DDR5 or whatever... I REPEAT! THIS VIDEO IS RandomAccessMemory DDR2 vs RandomAccessMemory DDR3 GET IT?
@Edge0fPain no 8GB of DDR2 is not "as fast" as 4GB of DDR3. The speed or frequency of DDR3 is ALWAYS faster then DDR2, thats why its called DDR3 for one. 8GB of DDR2 vs 4GB of DDR3 is just the capacity or size of the modules...
think of it as how long it takes for the memory to communicate to the cpu. obviously, you can have all the frequency you want in memory but it makes no difference if the cpu doesn't get the info quick enough. the latencies are measured in i believe nanoseconds, so a CAS latency of 2.5 in ddr1 memory is really good compared to 9 in some DDR3 modules.
@bogellenong Someone please correct me if I'm wrong but latency is the delay time between the infomation from the actually part to reach the system and back.
Bandwidth is the total number of bytes per second that can be transferred. High bandwidth is very good for data-intensive applications, like putting textures on the screen or reading and writing data blocks to a hard disk. Wider memories have higher bandwidths.
Latency is the max delay to read or write any SINGLE byte of memory from a random location. When you are running irregular code, such as MS-Word, a spell checker, several different programs at once, latency matters !!!
@starwarsfan76 well I asked this like 4 months ago and there were around 2-3 people that answered my question a week after I posted it, so I did know already
@bogellenong it's the time it takes to access the memory usually measured in nano seconds. For example if your system wants to write something to your RAM it has to wait some amount of nanoseconds to be able to do so... It may seems that the difference between 3 and 9 nano seconds is still small as it's still tiny fractions of a second but when writing millions of files every second it can make a difference .
@bogellenong latency means delay times in memory output so look for the memory with higher ram frequency but less the latency because less the latency the faster the memory will perform.
It's basically like Ferrari vs SUV on a shopping trip, without speed limits. The Ferrari can take stuff from the store as fast as the store can produce it, but in limited quantities. The SUV takes a little longer, but takes a LOT more food.
@prhoads400 The memory onboard the GPU is separate from the motherboard's 'collective' memory. I've seen instances with high-powered GDDR5 memory onboard video cards be attached to DDR motherboards. The results were humorous.
@7046463 No. The current fastest consumer processor is the Core i7-980X, a hexacore with hyper-threading, a 3.33Ghz clock, and 12MB of L3 cache. The fastest overall is the Intel Itanium 9300, which is identical to the i7-980X, except that it is a server-grade processor, which means you can run two of them on one motherboard.
Hi. You mentioned in your video that you are referencing Memory Modules and not Video Cards. However, I am shopping for a PCI Express Video Card and I while my RAM is DDR2, I have noticed some of the PCI-E Cards for sale make mention of whether they are DDR2 or DDR3. I have a 550 Watt Power Supply, which should be fine for most Video Cards. I'm shopping for a $200 Retail Nvidia Card. I just wondered if the DDR Type or other specs of the Video Cards matter or not.
@WermGut You can't replace the memory on a video card. But you really need to go for a DDR3 video card, or if possible, a DDR5 video card. You should actually look for a HD 5 series card from ATI, because they have the newest technologies for a awesome price.
In addition, actual memory latency is HEAVILY dependent on the actual controller propagation and prefetch buffer depth / algorithms, which get better and better over time.
If you stick with an older DDR2 controller, then it will be worse. In practice, the actual memory latency has a small impact in performance, unless the application is memory intensive and stalls due to a cache miss.
This is a FALSE: DDR3 is faster and better performance than DDR2.
DDR3 as a generalization, is always FASTER bandwidth and about the same or FASTER CAS access time. You have to realize that all latencies are generally included in cycle time which means CL=8 at DDR3-1600 is launched 10ns later just like CL of 4 at DDR2-800 (2.5ns*4=10). The actual latency in real terms is dependent on the memory controller propagation delay, which can easy double or more that 10ns number. In ad
Registered DIMM (server ECC market) has about the same or less latency than unregistered (not FBDIMM, but DDR3-RDIMM and DDR2-RDIMM), and always greater bandwidth. This is because of the 1N vs. 2N prefetch difference, so a channel with RDIMM's can receive twice as many commands.
Also, RDIMM overclocks well to DDR3-2133 with 1N timing while unregistered (desktop) DIMM usually need 3N timing at DDR3-2000+ (3x less than RDIMM). Low bandwidth!!!
RAM is overrated. 4GB of the lowest DDR2/3 and you're good to go. the more the better, but not necessarily. you wont get +15 fps with a high-end one, neither -15 for a worse.
But I still hate forced upgrades, If My computer can run HD video and fast enough that I Am Not screaming at It then why should I have to buy expensive whole new system to get It all running again If one part fails? The should be a law that they can Not make any new stuff unless they continue to manufacture and sell what Is already available.
I hate that computers are so difficult. You cant put ddr2 to ddr3 or vice versa.
Why is it so hard to make motherboard that supports all of these things. And why should the memory cost so dam much if it requires better more expensive motherboard.
hi i realy need to know can i mix my 1gb ram thats latency timings of cl5 with a 2gb with a latency timings of cl6 on my mother board? or do they have to be the same?
Hey I have some questions about DDR3 to whoever that can answer. This may sound stupid but I really don't know since it doesn't get covered on the manual or anywhere else. With DDR3, do you just connect them to the motherboard and then its ready to go? or is there some kind of place I have to go to activate them? Also I'm wondering if I should have 2 or 3 DDR3 on my motherboard, mine came with 3 DDR3s, and my motherboard can support up to 4 DDR3s.
It helps if you put them in the microwave and warm them up before putting them in your motherboard. It helps break in the thermal compound in them and makes them run cooler and smoother.
argh I cant find better ddr400 ram than my kingston value sticks. Sigh.
My PC is 5-6 years and still going strong, so far the only casualties being a stick of ram, a cpu retention module and into my 3rd power supply and 3rd GPU.
but i like to buy new computer but in market there is alot of motherboard and ram so can any one plz give me full details to buy better motherboard better
the advice is buy the best you can afford (motherboard). Its certainly worth it. Everybody says Asus is good, I have had mine for 5-6 years and its overclocked nicely, no problems (yet).
Different people always tell you different things (ddr2 or ddr3).
Honestly I dont know, but I certainly wish I could use ddr2 or ddr3 I would care which (I am stuck with just ddr).
I have a DDR2 1066mhz with cas 4 ,it has better performance than DDR3 1333mhz cas 7 or 1600mhz cas 8.I sink that the DDR3 need more speed microprocess, over the 3700mhz
Your motherboard can only handle either one of these. Also, you can't have 6GB in a dualchannel motherboard. you must have either 1 (512x2) 2(1024x2) 4 (2048x2) or 8 (2048x4)
I have 4gbs of PQI DDR3 @ 1333mhz.. Im looking to buy 4 more gigs (2x 2GB) of ddr 3 @ 1333mhz.. do I MUST have the same PQI brand in order to get more ram? or can I get any brand to work with my pqi? anyone know ?
Probably a dumb question, but DDR3 ram would work quicker with integrated graphics that uses shared ram than DDR2? I'd believe yes, but computers never cease to surprise (on both the negative and positive sides).
av recently got a new computer with 3 gb ddr2 i want to change it to 4gb gaming rams but i dont know what type off ddr2 they are it just sez ddr2 dimm wtfs dimm
this is weird, my graphics card( old one) was a GDDR3, and my current( since my cool old 1 broke) is DDR2, is there somthing going on here, my memore is DDR2 though, but my 8600gts is a DDR3, can somone help me please,lol
@hitlerjorge System memory, and graphics card memory are completely different from each other. He was talking about system memory; not graphics. System memory and graphics memory don't have to match.
I will get a new computer in 2 weeks. I need really fast replies... I am thinking about either 8GB of DDR3, or 16GB of DDR2. I am thinking about 16 gigs of DDR2 because it will actually come cheaper and faster then 8GB of DDR3.... Im just thinking that maybe there is something I dont know about?
There is - Just because you can afford that much does not mean you need that much - the best ram you should be getting is 4BG - anything more & your just being greedy - because what are you a 3d / Cg artist running an I7 processor - otherwise stick to 4GB.
Wheather DDR2 Or DD3 is up to you but saving power is a wise matter.
Well then I guess thats ok, Ive done a bit of everything with less ram than 4 gig fine - & that ram has been enough - but perhaps if your going into real time effects then that might help - but the spark was the 3d stuff - if your going to do 3d stuff - the perfect amount Ive heard was 6 gig - anything above this is up to you.
At the end of the day though the processor might be the real target.
@JaksProductions - Oh well if your going to render that should be fine - although so will the I7 cores, you have the good specs needed so you look like your set to do what your doing!
Difference between 2 and 3? 3 has a lower power requirement, meaning less heat generation. It has higher possible transfer frequencies and it has a hardware reset function to clear out the RAM and restart a process.
He is talking about the memory in the main case as attached to the Motherboard. Boards have maximum ratings for RAM sticks, so you need to look at the specs. A M2N-E board, for example, "states 4 x 240-pin DIMM, support max. 8GB DDR2 800/667/533 ECC and non-ECC, un-buffered memory." Another board, the P6TD will state "6 x DIMM, Max. 24 GB, DDR3 2000(O.C.)*/1866(O.C.)*/1800(O.C.)*/1600(O.C.)/1333*/1066 Non-ECC,Un-buffered Memory." That is the type of RAM it is built to use.
Hi mate so i was wondering the DDR3 contains of 2 ports but in each on of them has 3 slots so if i buy a ready PC not custom and the ram is 8gb how is placed in slots,
It depends lower speed DDR3 isn't better then high speed DDR2, because high speed DDR2 like 800 and 1066 have lower Latency's then DDR3 800 or DDR 3 1066. Where you will start to notice the diff in performance is when you get past DDR3 1333 or higher.
ddr3 latency isnt lower because thats has to do with how banks are setup ddr3 has termination and ddr2 does not alowing more bandwidth and refreshing without flushing whole ram stick that makes up for higher latency and cause higher latency.
Most games don't req'd high bandwidth memory....if you're playing stragedy games you don't need it. DDR3 prices is coming down now, but dam if you want hard core gaming those VDO cards, CPU, PS, memory can be pricey.
actually 3DGAMEMAN, the last thing you said, well some motherboards have slots for DDR2 and other slots for DDR3 on the same motherboard, I saw Foxconn did one.
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hey i have dell inspiron 545. It has ATI Radeon 4350 (512mb). I have 3Gb ddr2 RAM. And I think PCI-E 2.0x16 slot, 300 watt PSU.
Can i buy a graphic card with ddr3 memory?
Can I buy a graphic card with 2.1x16 ?
And can you suggest a ddr2 2Gb card.
paurav66 4 days ago
at first i thought oh ram they arent so diffrent only thing is the more gb on it the faster it is but now i have no fucking idea what to do : /
theagemon5 3 weeks ago
this video is 4 years old so ddr3 is cheap as fuck now
BolvarFTW 3 weeks ago
this is 3 years old video ddr3 is now even much cheaper!!!!
scampe187 2 months ago
is there ddr5 yet? as in ram
xy274 2 months ago
@xy274 not unless you are talking about vid cards no
Cherubim666999 2 months ago
DDR = Dance Dance Revolution!!!
Junr34 3 months ago
UPDATE: DDR3 memory is MUCH cheaper and optimal for today's games. Try to get between 1333 and 2500Mhz.
somethinggoeshere1 4 months ago
what is more popular?
Phonxer 4 months ago
does the game run with more FPS if you have ddr3?
CookieForMonsters 4 months ago
can i ask, ([pc] intel pentium dualcore2.60ghz)
my Videocard is galaxy gf g100 pci-e 512mb ddr2 64bit
then my motherboard is p5kpl-am se so this is not my question :)
my question is can i put ATI HD4650 1GB DDR3 128BIT DVI/HDMI
by the way what is the different of DVI and HDMI???
...............pls answer :) keep ur answers coming:)
naiyahpark 5 months ago
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naiyahpark 5 months ago
Will a video card that has ddr3 memory work on a motherboard that uses ddr2 ram?
iknowfacts 5 months ago
@iknowfacts Yes. Graphics card RAM is slightly different to usual RAM. You can tell the difference because graphic card RAM is referred to as "GDDR2" or "GDDR3" or even up to "GDDR5". The GDDR is an acronym for "Graphics Double Data Rate" - remove the "G" and it becomes "Double Data Rate" or, DDR.
Hope this helps.
jaydotosh 5 months ago
You can get like 4 gigs of DDR3 for like 70-100$ now
tore1992 6 months ago
@tore1992 You can get it for far cheaper then that. Nowadays, DDR2 is far more expensive then DDR3, opposed to when this video was made 3 years ago.
Crashtoob 6 months ago
@tore1992 Actually $40 - $70
DSRvmv111 5 months ago
I just wanna know is ddr3 better than ddr2 yes or no?
FatEd2012 6 months ago
@FatEd2012 Yes, DDR3 is better than DDR2.
cyberbuddy707 6 months ago
@cyberbuddy707 THX
FatEd2012 6 months ago
I had t rate this video as good because he told you the absolute truth. This post im making is July 6 2011 and i have to say.DDR3 is cheaper but just as crappy as it was before.It is stil slow and my DDR2 Massively out performs it.I am looking for DDR2 motherboards now an i intend on upgrading my CPU to a Quad 3.4 Mhz so i can overclock it. The motherboard is now more important.DDR2 is way better.I dont care about the heat.Which it does get hot in here.But i want performance more than anything.
warsun99 7 months ago
I never seen to much of a difference between DDR2 and DDR3, i currently run DDR2 1066 at 1100mhz because of my OC on my AMD phenom II 940 cpu. I did get my hands on a Core i5 with DDR3 1600 and there was no difference on games with my ATI 5850 in either system, Sold the i5 and kept my Phenom II 940 (kept it cause it OC like a beast and had better hardware unlike the i5 with the cheap dell mobo)
Vikingdude2121 8 months ago
DDR3 is fast! Compared to my old system that had DDR2 and the same hard drive :)
MrTpengineer 8 months ago
Quick reference for you DDR3 buyers. This is from my own experience playing with a lot of systems.
Don't look at the speed in MHz alone when you're trying to pick out the best motherboard/RAM combination. Unless you buy the best DDR3, you're going to have rather anemic latency. If you take the latency of your average DDR3 kit vs your average DDR2 kit, your results will be something like this most of the time.
DDR2 800 -- DDR3 1333
DDR2 1066 -- DDR3 1600
DDR2 1200 -- DDR3 1800
Hope that helps.
Jerkwad152 8 months ago
@Jerkwad152 HI. i have ddr2 667 OC 800... if i buy ddr3 1333 corsair i have advantages? or is better stay with ddr2? sorry for the english
XPTOPOWER 8 months ago
@XPTOPOWER
667 wasn't the best stuff, so yeah, I'd go for that. But you're going to have to buy a new motherboard, since they're not interchangeable.
Jerkwad152 8 months ago
@Jerkwad152 my motherboard supoorts ddr2 and ddr2 1333 x)
XPTOPOWER 8 months ago
Q: Can I mix ddr3 1333mhz memory with ddr3 1600mhz
windson7 10 months ago
@windson7
Yes sir-ey.
MrUberDeDuber 10 months ago
@MrUberDeDuber thanks.
windson7 10 months ago
@windson7 yeah but i will run quite slower because it will run at 1333 :) and its a little bit risky :) but by the way if u want try it, :) but you should buy 1600 modules only ;)
BestMusicRightHere 8 months ago
hey guys ... according to ram which ones will be lower heat output.. i was thinking upgrading from 4gb ddr3 -6-8gb ddr3 depending on heat output... my laptop is currently doing some heavyweight 3d rendering ... the laptop would never survive without a standard fan blowing it because the temperature is above what the nvidia 310m graphic could handle ... any idea ???
keyzin 11 months ago
2 years ago it wasn't much of a difference, but now it's cheaper and better.
Hamstergeval 11 months ago
ddr2 1gig was 17.99 and the same brand ddr3 2gig was like 20.99
IWentThereProduction 11 months ago
if i have nVidia 8500GT DDR2 can i put 9800GT DDR3?
yourmortalenemy167 1 year ago
@yourmortalenemy167 This isn't about Video cards, it's about ram... He said that he isn't talking about video cards... whatever... If you have PCI-E in your motherboard than you can put 9800 DDR3, GTX 460 DDR5 or whatever... I REPEAT! THIS VIDEO IS RandomAccessMemory DDR2 vs RandomAccessMemory DDR3 GET IT?
dbosnic 11 months ago
@dbosnic yeah, thanks for the headsup.
yourmortalenemy167 11 months ago
"before i answer that question lets go through some things.... ddr is faster" lol u just answered it.
ssinn 1 year ago
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SOxxLegit 1 year ago
pause the vid and click this 1:34 kinda creepy
SOxxLegit 1 year ago
Nowadays DDR3 is as cheap if not maybe a few pounds more expensive than DDR2, and 8GB of DDR2 is as fast as 4GB of DDR3
Edge0fPain 1 year ago
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TopBuyPC 1 year ago
@Edge0fPain no 8GB of DDR2 is not "as fast" as 4GB of DDR3. The speed or frequency of DDR3 is ALWAYS faster then DDR2, thats why its called DDR3 for one. 8GB of DDR2 vs 4GB of DDR3 is just the capacity or size of the modules...
TopBuyPC 1 year ago
@TopBuyPC
I mean the amount of "insert whatever the hell i forgot here" on each stick...
Edge0fPain 1 year ago
@TopBuyPC So should I get 8GB DDR2 or 4-6GB DDR3?
Relizent 11 months ago
@Relizent 6gb ddr3 ... ddr2 is more expensive than ddr3 now if u get 8gb ... prefer newer version
keyzin 11 months ago
this is 2 years old video ddr3 is now much cheaper!!!!
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aliwith888 1 month ago
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@Chakotay2222
dude your comment is 1 year older ... now its more cheaper :D
aliwith888 1 month ago
Disco Dancer Remo
mandarmahadik1 1 year ago
how about ddr2 memory on ddr3 slot?
MythNTips 1 year ago
@MythNTips wouldn't fit in
miniMagii 1 year ago
That settles it. I'll go with 6GB of DDR2 rather than 2 of DDR3. Smarter and faster choice!
90dribbler 1 year ago
Amd is great since their chips allow backwards compatibility so I will keep my ddr2 until ddr3 gets better latency.
greyfoxzero 1 year ago
deaf dumbass retard
obiwan544 1 year ago
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Armornone 1 year ago
No longer costs more....
And the lat is no longer such a bad thing....
viper19861986 1 year ago
can anyone explain what is memory latency
bogellenong 1 year ago 38
@bogellenong
think of it as how long it takes for the memory to communicate to the cpu. obviously, you can have all the frequency you want in memory but it makes no difference if the cpu doesn't get the info quick enough. the latencies are measured in i believe nanoseconds, so a CAS latency of 2.5 in ddr1 memory is really good compared to 9 in some DDR3 modules.
frequency isn't everything
schmidtbag 1 year ago
@schmidtbag thanks budd
bogellenong 1 year ago
@bogellenong Someone please correct me if I'm wrong but latency is the delay time between the infomation from the actually part to reach the system and back.
PKhong972 1 year ago
@bogellenong time it can reach it's destination
pivan23 1 year ago
@bogellenong,
Bandwidth is the total number of bytes per second that can be transferred. High bandwidth is very good for data-intensive applications, like putting textures on the screen or reading and writing data blocks to a hard disk. Wider memories have higher bandwidths.
Latency is the max delay to read or write any SINGLE byte of memory from a random location. When you are running irregular code, such as MS-Word, a spell checker, several different programs at once, latency matters !!!
systemBuilder 1 year ago
@bogellenong Get the fuck out of here.
starwarsfan76 1 year ago
@starwarsfan76 oh yeah, this is not your video, so you are the one that should fuck off, i never ask you to answer it
bogellenong 1 year ago
@bogellenong If you don't know what memory latency is then you shouldn't be watching tech videos.
starwarsfan76 1 year ago
@starwarsfan76 well I asked this like 4 months ago and there were around 2-3 people that answered my question a week after I posted it, so I did know already
bogellenong 1 year ago
@bogellenong Google.
creat3d 10 months ago
@creat3d Hmm. Nope. It's not Google. Way to be stupid.
GeekingForJesus 10 months ago
@GeekingForJesus No it's "look it up on google", way to be stupid indeed.
creat3d 10 months ago
@creat3d Yes, my friend, I was quite aware of what you were trying to say. Lol.
GeekingForJesus 10 months ago
@bogellenong I second that question,
I really cannot find any vids explaining this.
trumbachd1 7 months ago
@bogellenong it's the time it takes to access the memory usually measured in nano seconds. For example if your system wants to write something to your RAM it has to wait some amount of nanoseconds to be able to do so... It may seems that the difference between 3 and 9 nano seconds is still small as it's still tiny fractions of a second but when writing millions of files every second it can make a difference .
bjuszczak6 5 months ago
@bogellenong latency means delay times in memory output so look for the memory with higher ram frequency but less the latency because less the latency the faster the memory will perform.
afnanmahmood1996 3 months ago
It's basically like Ferrari vs SUV on a shopping trip, without speed limits. The Ferrari can take stuff from the store as fast as the store can produce it, but in limited quantities. The SUV takes a little longer, but takes a LOT more food.
HHBones 1 year ago
can you put a ddr3 graphics card in a ddr2 motherboard
prhoads400 1 year ago
@prhoads400 The memory onboard the GPU is separate from the motherboard's 'collective' memory. I've seen instances with high-powered GDDR5 memory onboard video cards be attached to DDR motherboards. The results were humorous.
HHBones 1 year ago
@prhoads400 yes report ass in mouth
Sn0okkz 1 year ago
is qx9770 e fastest of all quard? some even say close to i7
7046463 1 year ago
@7046463 No. The current fastest consumer processor is the Core i7-980X, a hexacore with hyper-threading, a 3.33Ghz clock, and 12MB of L3 cache. The fastest overall is the Intel Itanium 9300, which is identical to the i7-980X, except that it is a server-grade processor, which means you can run two of them on one motherboard.
HHBones 1 year ago
ddr2 an ddr3 cost the same
661BlackLion 1 year ago
Not in 2008, when this video was made.
myez 1 year ago
Hi. You mentioned in your video that you are referencing Memory Modules and not Video Cards. However, I am shopping for a PCI Express Video Card and I while my RAM is DDR2, I have noticed some of the PCI-E Cards for sale make mention of whether they are DDR2 or DDR3. I have a 550 Watt Power Supply, which should be fine for most Video Cards. I'm shopping for a $200 Retail Nvidia Card. I just wondered if the DDR Type or other specs of the Video Cards matter or not.
Thank you for your video!
WermGut 1 year ago
@WermGut You can't replace the memory on a video card. But you really need to go for a DDR3 video card, or if possible, a DDR5 video card. You should actually look for a HD 5 series card from ATI, because they have the newest technologies for a awesome price.
FRURMELLL 1 year ago
In addition, actual memory latency is HEAVILY dependent on the actual controller propagation and prefetch buffer depth / algorithms, which get better and better over time.
If you stick with an older DDR2 controller, then it will be worse. In practice, the actual memory latency has a small impact in performance, unless the application is memory intensive and stalls due to a cache miss.
ganocd3 1 year ago
This is a FALSE: DDR3 is faster and better performance than DDR2.
DDR3 as a generalization, is always FASTER bandwidth and about the same or FASTER CAS access time. You have to realize that all latencies are generally included in cycle time which means CL=8 at DDR3-1600 is launched 10ns later just like CL of 4 at DDR2-800 (2.5ns*4=10). The actual latency in real terms is dependent on the memory controller propagation delay, which can easy double or more that 10ns number. In ad
ganocd3 1 year ago
AND ONE LAST KICKER OF TRUTH...
Registered DIMM (server ECC market) has about the same or less latency than unregistered (not FBDIMM, but DDR3-RDIMM and DDR2-RDIMM), and always greater bandwidth. This is because of the 1N vs. 2N prefetch difference, so a channel with RDIMM's can receive twice as many commands.
Also, RDIMM overclocks well to DDR3-2133 with 1N timing while unregistered (desktop) DIMM usually need 3N timing at DDR3-2000+ (3x less than RDIMM). Low bandwidth!!!
ganocd3 1 year ago
on my laptop i have 4 gigs of ddr3 and i am using windows 7,well games are running pretty good and i get 35 40 fps
MrBUSSINESGUY1 1 year ago
RAM is overrated. 4GB of the lowest DDR2/3 and you're good to go. the more the better, but not necessarily. you wont get +15 fps with a high-end one, neither -15 for a worse.
Rosty89 1 year ago
But I still hate forced upgrades, If My computer can run HD video and fast enough that I Am Not screaming at It then why should I have to buy expensive whole new system to get It all running again If one part fails? The should be a law that they can Not make any new stuff unless they continue to manufacture and sell what Is already available.
ortafunk 1 year ago
idiot
Xytose 1 year ago
i've seen ur other videos. man u're stupid! stop spreading false info man.
Xytose 1 year ago
I hate that computers are so difficult. You cant put ddr2 to ddr3 or vice versa.
Why is it so hard to make motherboard that supports all of these things. And why should the memory cost so dam much if it requires better more expensive motherboard.
123icecube 1 year ago
DDR3, DDR2, TIGHT, LOW MEMEORY, BANDWITH, EXPENSIVE,TRIPLE,LATENCYES SUCKS ....
Its Just A ram :x
Goldenkidyash70 1 year ago
the latency is needed bc the ram is so much faster than the main bus speed?
LemonAndYoghurt 1 year ago
I would like to know about the 64 bit Edition, I will be ordering with my new PC. Im I going to have a problem playing games?
uphill248 1 year ago
@uphill248 You shouldn't do these days. Just be sure to install 64-bit drivers for your computer, especially your graphics card.
doive1231 1 year ago
HI, can i use my 1GB DDR2 in to my new PC which is DDR3.
uphill248 1 year ago
@uphill248 No.
doive1231 1 year ago
hi i realy need to know can i mix my 1gb ram thats latency timings of cl5 with a 2gb with a latency timings of cl6 on my mother board? or do they have to be the same?
THEMRJISHERE 1 year ago
Nothing is this video is relevant anyone.
NDogg15 1 year ago
Hey I have some questions about DDR3 to whoever that can answer. This may sound stupid but I really don't know since it doesn't get covered on the manual or anywhere else. With DDR3, do you just connect them to the motherboard and then its ready to go? or is there some kind of place I have to go to activate them? Also I'm wondering if I should have 2 or 3 DDR3 on my motherboard, mine came with 3 DDR3s, and my motherboard can support up to 4 DDR3s.
AznShigsta 1 year ago
@AznShigsta
It helps if you put them in the microwave and warm them up before putting them in your motherboard. It helps break in the thermal compound in them and makes them run cooler and smoother.
Plur307 1 year ago
@Plur307 Sorry but I'm looking for a answer from someone with more experience and knowledge.
AznShigsta 1 year ago
4gb drr2 800mhz or 4gb ddr3 1333mhz feels in games? do they adds frames?
Froanite 1 year ago
@Froanite
yes with ddr3 memory + 5FPS
1mper1alGuardsMen 1 year ago
so what should we look for in purchasing ddr3 memory?
wuhlei 1 year ago
argh I cant find better ddr400 ram than my kingston value sticks. Sigh.
My PC is 5-6 years and still going strong, so far the only casualties being a stick of ram, a cpu retention module and into my 3rd power supply and 3rd GPU.
but i guess u dont care :)
bodunchar 1 year ago
recently had a bad stick of Ram and running on one DDR3. is it normal for applications to be slower when running on one stick? even on windows7?
TikiShootah 1 year ago
errr, less ram, less memory, less memory, less, err, you know what I mean right?
windows 7 uses more ram than vista right? Just guessing.
Sorry I cant help you!
bodunchar 1 year ago
you got me
BlackMothTube 1 year ago
again, this is Rodney Reynolds with another video review!! =)
Very good video. Explained everything very fluidly.
Pvtjamesryan2 1 year ago
Can any one tell me that what is the best
parts of computer to have a new one
recently i am using 478 socket...3.000 ghz
but i like to buy new computer but in market there is alot of motherboard and ram so can any one plz give me full details to buy better motherboard better
ram better dual core cpu.....i will be very
thankfull of you thanks bye........
strangerlover11 1 year ago
what did u buy in the end?
bodunchar 1 year ago
@bodunchar
actually i did not boughted yet but i am trying too but some says ddr2 or ddr3 is better ram so thats why i am puzzle....
so which one motherboad or cpu will be the
best for ddr2 or ddr3 ram........thanks for
your reply.......
strangerlover11 1 year ago
the advice is buy the best you can afford (motherboard). Its certainly worth it. Everybody says Asus is good, I have had mine for 5-6 years and its overclocked nicely, no problems (yet).
Different people always tell you different things (ddr2 or ddr3).
Honestly I dont know, but I certainly wish I could use ddr2 or ddr3 I would care which (I am stuck with just ddr).
Good luck!
bodunchar 1 year ago
*wouldnt care
bodunchar 1 year ago
@bodunchar
Thnk you very much for your reply i know
in the market now a days the Asus motherboard more sellings........
strangerlover11 1 year ago
I have a DDR2 1066mhz with cas 4 ,it has better performance than DDR3 1333mhz cas 7 or 1600mhz cas 8.I sink that the DDR3 need more speed microprocess, over the 3700mhz
MHAKP 1 year ago
thank you for the vid
1mb0123d 1 year ago
nope
kohupiim51 1 year ago
ok so i got a question, i have ddr3 memory 4gb and want to upgrade to 6gb, so im asking can i combine ddr2 with ddr3??
MalinTantoDecesso 1 year ago
No, you can't.
Your motherboard can only handle either one of these. Also, you can't have 6GB in a dualchannel motherboard. you must have either 1 (512x2) 2(1024x2) 4 (2048x2) or 8 (2048x4)
Or 1(256x4) 2(512x4) 4(1024x4) or 8(2048x4)
NoneImparticular 1 year ago
6gb 1600Mhz crucial ballistix mems over here <3
NGT2O6 1 year ago
I have 4gbs of PQI DDR3 @ 1333mhz.. Im looking to buy 4 more gigs (2x 2GB) of ddr 3 @ 1333mhz.. do I MUST have the same PQI brand in order to get more ram? or can I get any brand to work with my pqi? anyone know ?
skorpion47 1 year ago
I have different brands of ddr2 in my PC works fine.
BonScottAC 1 year ago
i have 4 Gb DDR2
iphone3gs78 1 year ago
Can somebody explain me if there is a big difference in cl7 and cl9 DDR3 ram?
i bought a new pc, I ordered cl7 Geil 1333Mhz black dragon (8gb) but i got cl9 Ones........., is this a big rip off?
Grtz
69Gert69 2 years ago
yes, its a bit slower, sue them !
DeadOwnedYou 2 years ago
The price is the same as cl9, so:p
69Gert69 2 years ago
that is a huge rippoff because i paid 7 pennies for mine
blindedby2monkeys 2 years ago
There's no real price difference, but cl7 is faster than cl9 so try and get in contact with the store for replacement.
rww100 2 years ago
i gonna go for 8 gigs o RAM, and then 1000 gig harddrive
Zeyp61 2 years ago
will 6GB DDR2 Memory Be Any Good For Windows 7 Professional 64-bit?
MarksterTutorials 2 years ago
@MarksterTutorials
Why not ..... duhh
VladSocreziTu 2 years ago
plenty... remember this is 7 not vista so you don't need a shit load of ram just to run you desktop lol
Ksquaredgaming 2 years ago
way too good.
RebelAngel4321 1 year ago
no it didnt answer my question
wannatry69 2 years ago
DDR3 is going to be the next standard, especially for AMD
AM2 motherboards are pretty much useless for gaming tbh.
Xelvielll 2 years ago
lies, there are a couple new mobo's that are standard ddr3 that can use ddr2
SrtRacerBoy 2 years ago
fuckin hell.. how many times can u say DDR in 1min 33sec??? hahaha
steevyp 2 years ago
Dance Dance Revolution
dmrlev2004 2 years ago 50
Probably a dumb question, but DDR3 ram would work quicker with integrated graphics that uses shared ram than DDR2? I'd believe yes, but computers never cease to surprise (on both the negative and positive sides).
Grimmcorpse 2 years ago
Latency vs. Bandwidth To be overheated or not to be overheated. I choose bandwidth and so does my i7
rozMexicano13 2 years ago
Exactly what I needed to know. Brief and to the point. Thanks 3DGAMEMAN.
brettbed 2 years ago
av recently got a new computer with 3 gb ddr2 i want to change it to 4gb gaming rams but i dont know what type off ddr2 they are it just sez ddr2 dimm wtfs dimm
progameruk1 2 years ago
this is weird, my graphics card( old one) was a GDDR3, and my current( since my cool old 1 broke) is DDR2, is there somthing going on here, my memore is DDR2 though, but my 8600gts is a DDR3, can somone help me please,lol
hitlerjorge 2 years ago
@hitlerjorge System memory, and graphics card memory are completely different from each other. He was talking about system memory; not graphics. System memory and graphics memory don't have to match.
TechsHome 2 years ago
thank you, I was in shock for a second, thank you for confirming this
hitlerjorge 2 years ago
I will get a new computer in 2 weeks. I need really fast replies... I am thinking about either 8GB of DDR3, or 16GB of DDR2. I am thinking about 16 gigs of DDR2 because it will actually come cheaper and faster then 8GB of DDR3.... Im just thinking that maybe there is something I dont know about?
JaksProductions 2 years ago
There is - Just because you can afford that much does not mean you need that much - the best ram you should be getting is 4BG - anything more & your just being greedy - because what are you a 3d / Cg artist running an I7 processor - otherwise stick to 4GB.
Wheather DDR2 Or DD3 is up to you but saving power is a wise matter.
CollapseDev 2 years ago
@CollapseDev I am a visual effects artist . I also do alot of 3D work so take that into notice.
I also use adobe after effects wich uses alot of RAM.... so 4GB would definitely not be enough for the purpose of video editing.
JaksProductions 2 years ago
Well then I guess thats ok, Ive done a bit of everything with less ram than 4 gig fine - & that ram has been enough - but perhaps if your going into real time effects then that might help - but the spark was the 3d stuff - if your going to do 3d stuff - the perfect amount Ive heard was 6 gig - anything above this is up to you.
At the end of the day though the processor might be the real target.
CollapseDev 2 years ago
@CollapseDev Im going for Intel Q9650
JaksProductions 2 years ago
@JaksProductions - Oh well if your going to render that should be fine - although so will the I7 cores, you have the good specs needed so you look like your set to do what your doing!
CollapseDev 2 years ago
are their motherboards that are ddr2 and hold like 8, 12 gigs of ram?
MiK3sk8r007 2 years ago
Finally DDR2 prices are starting to drop again. Intead of buying 4gb (2 x 2) for $95 dollars now you can get it for $80 dollars.
SteelCity1981 2 years ago
whats the difference between gddr2 and gddr3??? HELP
nikosyv 2 years ago
GDDR - Graphics Double Data Rate
Difference between 2 and 3? 3 has a lower power requirement, meaning less heat generation. It has higher possible transfer frequencies and it has a hardware reset function to clear out the RAM and restart a process.
AzmodanKijur 2 years ago
And GDDR5 will soon be the memory standard for graphics. Already ordered my nvidia 1GB GDDR5 40nm process card.
txmoney 2 years ago
my question is: does it matter what kind of motherboard i have or i could use DDR2 or DDR3 on any motherboard
LordEizen 2 years ago
No, you cannot use any RAM on any board.
AzmodanKijur 2 years ago
does that have something to do with the motherboard? i mean the motherboard is ddr2? or the ddr thing is just about the cards
LordEizen 2 years ago
He is talking about the memory in the main case as attached to the Motherboard. Boards have maximum ratings for RAM sticks, so you need to look at the specs. A M2N-E board, for example, "states 4 x 240-pin DIMM, support max. 8GB DDR2 800/667/533 ECC and non-ECC, un-buffered memory." Another board, the P6TD will state "6 x DIMM, Max. 24 GB, DDR3 2000(O.C.)*/1866(O.C.)*/1800(O.C.)*/1600(O.C.)/1333*/1066 Non-ECC,Un-buffered Memory." That is the type of RAM it is built to use.
AzmodanKijur 2 years ago
Hi mate so i was wondering the DDR3 contains of 2 ports but in each on of them has 3 slots so if i buy a ready PC not custom and the ram is 8gb how is placed in slots,
FGcal 2 years ago
DDR3 800 and DDR3 1066 makes no sense. Your performance will go backwards when using these types of ram vs DDR2 800 and DDR3 1066.
SteelCity1981 2 years ago
so what is he exactly saying? ddr3 is better?
1099residentevil 2 years ago
It depends lower speed DDR3 isn't better then high speed DDR2, because high speed DDR2 like 800 and 1066 have lower Latency's then DDR3 800 or DDR 3 1066. Where you will start to notice the diff in performance is when you get past DDR3 1333 or higher.
SteelCity1981 2 years ago
Please can you tell me what is better?
512MB DDR3 or 1024MB DDR2?
Thanks
.
tvengas 2 years ago
8GB OCZ/NVidia DDR2
amorfati3 2 years ago
ddr3 latency isnt lower because thats has to do with how banks are setup ddr3 has termination and ddr2 does not alowing more bandwidth and refreshing without flushing whole ram stick that makes up for higher latency and cause higher latency.
jayguy173 2 years ago
Most games don't req'd high bandwidth memory....if you're playing stragedy games you don't need it. DDR3 prices is coming down now, but dam if you want hard core gaming those VDO cards, CPU, PS, memory can be pricey.
JPHET37 2 years ago
i got 1gb ddr3 =D lol
aaronlikesalex 2 years ago
I got 4GB Crucial Ballistix DDR3
KlassiKX2 2 years ago
i saving for core 7i system with DDR3 3x 2gb memory ^^
grautsvulst88 2 years ago
if your going to build a Core i7 920 system, is it retarded to go with DDR2? lol
I'm not even sure if you can use DDR2 with Core i7
thought I'd ask
Would it be better to just go with DDR2 1066Mhz ram, and get a crazy low latency set like CL5?
I'm going friggin insane trying to come to a decision!! also, would it prevent you from OC'ing your CPU alot, if you get DDR2?
Thanks!
1981z28camaro 2 years ago
No u can't it's only DDR3
Dra60oN 2 years ago
ok, thanx for replying :-)
1981z28camaro 2 years ago
personally i would get 4GB DDR2 with 1066MHz (corsair) its cheap and good xD
donkeyboy2k7 2 years ago
actually 3DGAMEMAN, the last thing you said, well some motherboards have slots for DDR2 and other slots for DDR3 on the same motherboard, I saw Foxconn did one.
AmH032uTuBe 2 years ago