Re: Who created God? Why did God create us? Where God come from?

[xenogenesis1]

God sends people to hell because he is just. If he sent a sinner to heaven, that would make him unjust. Thats why we have a sacrifice

[LBBSTOMAJCCDP]

@xenogenesis1 Exactly, I'm glad people understand this. I honestly forgot about this entire conversation. If God were to reward non believers, there would be no point in sending Christ. If God is not just, He cannot be good. Also, if God gives us the choices of either believing/going to heaven, or nonbelief/going to hell, then it is ultimately our decision to choose one or the other.

[LBBSTOMAJCCDP]

@everywallwillfall i disagree but this made me LOL

[bukky22]

thats the problem my friend you are talking from finite textx passed down

[LBBSTOMAJCCDP]

@bukky22 the first biography of Alexander the Great were WRITTEN nearly 400 years after his death. So should he no longer be of historical signifigance?

[LBBSTOMAJCCDP]

@bukky22 this is making me rofl, big time. Alexander the Great DID exist!! No modern scholar worth his salt would refute that because the evidence outweighs all skepticism! Just like Jesus is widely accepted to have existed, because the evidence outweighs the skepticism!! If this is what you are going by for people's historicity, then it should also be disputed whether Benjamin Franklin, Attila the Hun, and Blackbeard ever existed. Because all we have to prove it are documents.

[slim240293]

I'll start believing in God from the moment he will appear right in front of my eyes and he will perform some crazy miracles like his son, Jesus. I'm sick of stupid people giving me lectures about the stupidest book ever written...

[LBBSTOMAJCCDP]

@slim240293 Its actually not that hard of a book to believe. The 4 Gospels were written within one generation of Christ's death, so the eyewitnesses were still alive. And although Luke did not see Him in person, he interviewed the ones who did and wrote what they saw. Also, if that is not close enough of a source, then why should we believe Alexander the Great ever existed? There are no written biographies of his life until 400 years after his death. But we can agree he did exist

[slim240293]

@LBBSTOMAJCCDP Well, how do you know the guys who wrote the Bible ever existed, how do you know Jesus Christ ever existed, how do you suppose all of those things happened, you haven't even been there, you haven't lived in that period of time. Shit, I don't even know if Napoleon ever existed, I just respect the character described by history. Still, the Bible remains a stupid and useless book until today, that's the rational human's opinion, no doubt...

[LBBSTOMAJCCDP]

@slim240293 Its common knowlege that Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, James, Peter, Paul (formerly Saul), and Pontius Pilate were real people, even for non-Christian scholars. And we can't explain how Jesus performed so many documented miracles, which is why we accept His claim to be divine. Let me ask you this, why would Peter and James let themselves be executed over a lie? It is historical fact they were killed, and James originally rejected his half-brother's divinity, so what explains

[LBBSTOMAJCCDP]

@LBBSTOMAJCCDP his sudden change of heart and willingness to be painfully executed? Not if he knew it was a lie. And before changing his name to Paul, Saul actually killed and tortured many Christians, until Jesus made himself known to him, thus making Saul a believer. How can you explain that? Its like saying Hitler converted to Judaism, it is a huge stretch that he would do this over a lie. So what could turn a Christian-killing nonbeliver into an Apostle? Divine intervention.

[LBBSTOMAJCCDP]

@LBBSTOMAJCCDP Also, if you dispute the fact that Napoleon, Alexander the Great, OR Jesus ever existed you need to refresh yourself in history. And remember, people have tried to disprove things like the Holocaust, so some people will try to disprove an event as significant and HISTORICAL as the life/death of Jesus just because it doesn't suit their own beliefs.

[slim240293]

@LBBSTOMAJCCDP I repeat myself once again: HISTORY MIGHT NOT BE REAL! And Jesus performing miracles is not even an historical fact, not even close to what the real world looks like! -_-

[LBBSTOMAJCCDP]

@slim240293 History 'might not be real'? Someone is a little unsure of the world around him, isn't he? Perhaps looking into Christianity instead of blindly rejecting it as 'magical', could be rather benficial to you. You are welcome to send me questions if you like. And you're right, Jesus' miracles are no longer seen as historical fact. But this is not due to inauthenticity, it is due to a humans nature to rebel against what is considered the norm. 2000 years of hearing about Jesus

[LBBSTOMAJCCDP]

@LBBSTOMAJCCDP fed some people up. So in an attempt to discredit something with historical backing, people began calling Christians 'crazy' for believing 'fairy tales' and made theists appear irrational. But if I went back 1000 years ago and spoke about electricity, I too, would be labeled 'crazy'. So perhaps theists are just ahead of scientific progress.

[slim240293]

@LBBSTOMAJCCDP Yes, you're right, I may be 'blindly rejecting' God, maybe because I used to believe in him a few years ago and then I've done some research and I concluded he doesn't exist (for me), reason and logic couldn't find him real. Ok then, let me ask you a question: why does God punishes us for our sins by sending us to Hell if he loves us so much (please, don't give me the same crap like most Christians that 'God doesn't punish people' and shit like that, it's obvious)?

[LBBSTOMAJCCDP]

@slim240293 I felt the same way two years ago. Then I decided to open my mind to ALL possibilities. When you do independent research, and can weed out actual evidence for the Bible and concept of God, everything sounds rational. So please, open your mind to all possibilities and don't blindly reject this just because its Christianity.

[s1t2e3v4]

K well Stephen Hawking who set out to prove that the universe had no beginning to disprove God.. (if there is no creation then there is no creator) but his observation showed that the universe had a definite end and beginning. He then point...ed to the theory of big bang but never could disprove God. the question of what came before the beginning is still not answered and knowing that something had to come before the beginning means something is not based on the laws of time and space..

[s1t2e3v4]

@s1t2e3v4 If something is beyond time and space it is then supernatural. This is why Christians hold the argument God has no beginning or end. Because he is out of the laws of time and space he can create. The proof of creation lies in complexity of the universe. It is not possible for nothing (space) to become something (a whole universe) by itself. So sorry for the long response but the whole point of God being God is that he can't be created. He has no beginning and no end :)

[s1t2e3v4]

Coming back to this video after three years has been eye opening. I am now 18 years old, still young but even more stronger in my faith. And some count that as stupidity and thats just fine. Being Christian has become tougher than ever before, a mention of God can take away your job, respect, grades (college papers) and that is wrong. I believe in a God SO WHAT !! HAHA ...

[yetter714]

the bible was written by man so therefore its full of lies and deceit.

[LBBSTOMAJCCDP]

@yetter714 The history books in todays schools were written by man also. Therefore, anything past the age of the oldest human being is a lie too. So sorry, come again :D

[yetter714]

@LBBSTOMAJCCDP i'm not sure i follow what you're saying. it's a fact that the romans rewrote history.. but still i don't know what you're getting at?

[LBBSTOMAJCCDP]

@yetter714 Im saying, if you believe that no one can attest to it today, then things like the Civil War, Renesaince (sorry for spelling), and the intventor of te telephone would be up for debate. And that "fact" is the invention of bible-bashing websites. How do I know this? Ive actually studied it!

[yetter714]

@LBBSTOMAJCCDP but that is debatable even. however the bible is much older and it has many similarities with other religions... there must be a divine creator but claiming to know what it is is just moronic. in this day and age if god speaks to you you are considered insane.

[LBBSTOMAJCCDP]

@yetter714 mabye thats why God stopped talking to people verbally. And Christianity may have some beliefs that are similar to other religions, but that is just because they all believe in something bigger than themselves. Jews and Hindus believe in an afterlife but are COMPLETELY different. And when dealing with historical evidence,

[LBBSTOMAJCCDP]

@LBBSTOMAJCCDP it does not matter how old a written account is, it only matters how long it was written after the fact. All four Gospels were written within one genereation of Jesus' death. So the eyewittness' were still alive. This is proven through the rapid formation of the Early Christian Church after Jesus' death/resurrection

[yetter714]

@LBBSTOMAJCCDP there must a be something divine, an afterlife maybe even but no one really knows, that's why they call it having faith. im not an atheist i just don't claim to know.

[LBBSTOMAJCCDP]

@yetter714 ok, thats a good place to start! but doesn't it make sense to pursue this God? learn more about Him? Do some research on your own, and see what you can come up with. You can message me if you have questions or just post it here. God Bless(:

[yetter714]

@LBBSTOMAJCCDP i believe the bible was a book of law more than religion, that's of course my opinion.

[yetter714]

Respond to this video... also who's god's god's god's dog? probably one cool son of a bitch ha

[highstakes136]

The answer to who created Yahweh has been known for half a century. He is one of 70 sons of the master god El of the Canannites. Early Israelites "borrowed" him from their enemies the Canannites and gave him the same powers as El. They also borrowed his wife, Asherah, as Yahweh's consort. Abraham originally worshipped El as apparently Yahweh didn't exist at the time. Biblical scholars have known this for years.

[LBBSTOMAJCCDP]

@highstakes136 Actually, they all worshipped the same God. The progress of language just accounts for the difference in what 'name' they gave Him.

Yahweh=Elohim=Jehovah=Islam's "Allah"

[highstakes136]

@LBBSTOMAJCCDP Not quite. El was the chief Canannite god. Elohim is the plural of El, meaning "gods". Allah is a cognative of El. Yahweh was a minor god of the area around Midian (remember in the Bible that's where Moses ran to after killing the Egyptian). Jehovah is a corruption of the original YHWH wherein "Y's" were translated in to "J's" in medieval times. Hence how Yeshua became Jesus when translated into Greek then Old English.

[zodiakranch]

you poor brainwashed child. Perhaps when you are older yu will read more of the Bible yourself and see how many contradictions there are in the Bible. Do you know that archeology started as a persuit to find proof for the Bible and it has found everything but proof of biblical truth. It has found the gods that the biblical god was shaped after and the myths that the stories of Jesus came from. You seem smart so I'm sure you wil figure it all out one day.

[BanAllCheaters]

God is the word. God created us for relationship he gave us life to be with him someday after we forfill our purpose in this life you may wonder what is our purpose show others love help them find Jesus we where all seprated by one man's disobients sin enter the world and it lead down for all people we all sinned and came short of the glory of god. Jesus came and died for us all covered each sin and God rose him from the dead to give us life.

[sabertooth1980]

Laughable. I'm not sorry. But the bible is full of contradictions.

[buttermilkbread]

Bible is not full of contradictions.  Many prophecies have come true. Also, there is a qualitative parallel between physics and Bible. You just have to know how to read Bible. Read carefully, with you mind open. Btw, how was your church today?

[sabertooth1980]

That's called "Foundational Bias". Logical Fallacy. And I don't go to church.

[SpeakerForrTheDead]

"Bible is not full of contradictions"

Really?

2 Chronicles 36:9 (KJV):

"Jehoiachin was eight years old when he began to reign, and he reigned three months and ten days in Jerusalem"

2 Kings 24:8 (KJV):

"Jehoiachin was eighteen years old when he began to reign, and he reigned in Jerusalem three months"

Looks contradictory to me.

[MarcusDarling4026]

@SpeakerForrTheDead

Wait-

..a rounded- down approximation by a whole other writer of a whole other "book" is hardly a contradiction. A journalist / scribe would write things differently about a common occurrence than say, a regular- joe bystander or a friend writing about the same moment.

U have 2 rmembr that the Bible is a collection of official records (pternty & prob8), transcripts (royal legacies), letters (same as emails) BY scribes whose rep dpends on accuracy-

..not some novel.

[SpeakerForrTheDead]

@MarcusDarling4026

The difference between the numbers 8 and 18 is not a "rounded down approximation".

It is a transcriptional error.

The point of my post was that you cannot call a document 100% accurate and error free 'because the errors that are clear and obvious don't count'.

I'm completely unable to understand, "it has no errors because the errors it does have don't count".

The Bible is full of such clear discrepancies making the human origin of the books obvious.

[MarcusDarling4026]

@SpeakerForrTheDead

But parallels DO count as truth. 8 & 18 count as zero, when you're rounding off anything below 50.

Look, just read it, again!

lol

[LBBSTOMAJCCDP]

@SpeakerForrTheDead The inerrancy of the Bible is disputed among Christian denominations. We understand the Bible was inspired by God but written by men. Although there is a discrepancy every know and then, the entire Bible should not be thrown out. It is still a reliable historical document, it is only rejected by a minority of people due to the fact it contradicts their BELIEFS.

[LBBSTOMAJCCDP]

@LBBSTOMAJCCDP Besides, these 'contradictions' are in secondary details that have no real relevance to the overall message. Should we throw out an entire account of Biblical history because of a few discrepancies? Thats not what historians do, they establish the discrepancies from fact. Not throwing out something with a few disputable, secondary details.

[yisraeldoctor]

@SpeakerForrTheDead bible is not full of contradictions it is but they is still has much truth in it as a matter of fact it is the only book that i know that will save us from the confusion that is in the world today once use effectively

[SpeakerForrTheDead]

@yisraeldoctor

No, Benhanan, it is not.

I appreciate that you may be sincere in your belief regarding the Bible, but all reason & logic (& sentiment, too!) tells me otherwise.

Look *deeper*...

the Bible is not 'the cure' for today's problems, rather, it is a cause.

It, as well as other such "Holy" books, stands in the way.

It is *preventing* us from reaching 'the cure'.

[yisraeldoctor]

@SpeakerForrTheDead in Ezekiel ch 13 explain why they is so much confusion the Creator didt send none of them false prophets to us they make us worst than if we were not thought any thing about religions because all religions are false he said that he will send a one that one was mention in deut 28;28 and I will put my word in mouth of that one and that one will only speak what I command that one to speak and that one is D messiah that is here on earth in physical and I was taught by that one

[yisraeldoctor]

@sabertooth1980 it has alot of truth too

[sabertooth1980]

@yisraeldoctor I doubt that.

[yisraeldoctor]

@sabertooth1980 what exactly you doubt?

[sabertooth1980]

@yisraeldoctor The bible. Religion. Everything.

[yisraeldoctor]

@sabertooth1980 o.k now you meet me your doubts should come to an end let us start ask me any questions in the BIBLE that you have doubts over

[bangNL94]

Well actually the bible is a collection of pagan myths which have just been changed a little.

[rockleekickedyourass]

The bible is a basically a childrens story like Santa clause.

[itamar969]

god is very much apart of nature.. go and learn the process of a seed growing to be a tree..

[goog2k]

That's okay Donovan, you done good.

I'm sure your fairy tale big daddy up in the sky will reward you.

Say hi to him for me.

[donovanrules123123]

Making fun of something you know nothing about just shows how narrow-minded you really are. I don't blame you really, alot of people are misinformed and think it's just all a "fairy tale". The greatest fairy tale writer in history (C.S.Lewis) said that the bible does not follow the structure of a fairy tale.

Infact, there is more geographical, and historical evidence for the bible than ANY OTHER book in history.

[goog2k]

donovan, I'm not here to attack your silly beliefs. You have every right to believe whatever you like.

But don't try to substitute those silly beliefs with science. You're the one who started this.

If you believe so strongly then answer even ONE of these questions.

YouTube:

10 questions that every intelligent Christian must answer /watch?v=zDHJ4ztnldQ

[donovanrules123123]

God gave us science buddy. So I don't understand your claim?

Let me ask you a question.

Big bang theory right. States that all life and everything we see started off as one primeval atom. This atom was infinitely dense, etc. Now let me ask you. How did the atom get there? And if it was created by another event. Then how did that get there? There isn't one possible answer you can give me that follows the scientific method. So please....use science to tell me the answer.

[goog2k]

donny,

Where did your fairy tale big daddy up in the sky come from??

[goog2k]

Oh yeah donny, how about those questions.

Were you able to answer even ONE???

If so, I'd be curious to hear your answer.

10 questions that every intelligent Christian must answer

/watch?v=zDHJ4ztnldQ

[donovanrules123123]

I find it hilarious that you find that video to be one bit true. All those questions show a great lack of understanding of the bible. Including passages taken out of context.

Really, I'm tired of arguing with a fool who's condemning something he knows NOTHING about.

Try reading the WHOLE bible first, then come back to me and say it's a fairy tale.

[goog2k]

Okay, i understand you couldn't answer a single question. I wouldn't be able to either.

Now which fairy tale would you like to explain?

Adam & Eve

Jonah and the "great fish"

Noah's Ark

or countless others?

[EKmion]

what sciencefiction do you want to explain?

Evolution

Atoms

Aliens

2012

or are we still with starwars?

your cockyness and acting condessinding

[goog2k]

98.7% of your genes are the same as a chimps, apeman

[goog2k]

BTW EK, I guess you don't accept atomic theory???

You better put your science fiction computer down. It's impossible.

[EKmion]

yeah atomic THEORY- a well tested explanation made by the government to scare people

[goog2k]

EK, thank you for demonstrating what a silly fool you are. I've never heard that one before: the atom is a government conspiracy?? Duhh??? Ever hear about Hiroshima and Nagasaki??

BTW have you ever seen electricity?? Turn off that light, it's impossible.

(EK, if you check back on my first posts on this site, you'll find I wasn't attacking anyone or any religious belief. It's always you Bible thumping idiots who are so intolerant.)

[EKmion]

Where you atleast raised into christianity and gave up in life because of a bad cause? or where you just raised into oh its ok billy theres no such thing as god theres no evil devil with horns thats gonna make you burn forever

[goog2k]

Yeah EK, I was raised a Christian -- and I still believe that Christ's unconditional love and forgiveness is something everyone should aspire to. Unfortunately, the most vocal "Christians" are just the opposite. They're more like the Taliban.

I gave up Christianity when I saw their unbelievable hypocrisy and learned science. After I learned science I gave up believing childish FAIRY TALES like the devil and a magical big daddy up in the sky.

The devil & god are like comic book action figures.

[EKmion]

yeah fairy tales? hey im not saying all science is false this world has been held together because of christianity in your opinion fake or real in the bible some of those stories have happend im not just talking about a giant boat in the water i mean real wars if you study behavior of people back then compared to now everyone(that could read and write) wrote every little thing down that they experinced

[EKmion]

im sure youll make new friends

[EKmion]

in hell

[goog2k]

I'm all shook up.

So, are you going to get 72 virgins in heaven too?

[goog2k]

EK, I'd like to hear more about your fairy tale big daddy up in the sky. Does he talk to you like Pat Robertson?

[EKmion]

dude shut up you condesending nerd lets talk about your science fiction atom i cant see atoms you cant see god were equal

[donovanrules123123]

Btw, to the video maker:

Go here for the best "who create God" argument I've seen.

creation.

com/if-god-created-the-univers­e-then-who-created-god

[goog2k]

From chemistry and physics we know that all of the atoms in the universe came from hydrogen and helium formed after the 'Big Bang.'

The heavier elements came from fusion reactions within stars - and all the elements heavier than iron (Fe) came from 'supernova,' the explosion of big stars.

That means the iron in our blood and the carbon in our brain all came from dead stars.

In fact, all the atoms in our body and on earth came from stars that blew up billions of years ago.

[goog2k]

-- so as humans,

we are actually walking, talking stardust . . .

this Cosmos become AWAKE,

and looking back at itself . . .

-- and experientially, aren't we all just bubbles of consciousness floating on the same ocean of existence.

And as bubbles of awareness dancing on the ocean of existence, are we just bubbles?

-- or, in fact, the whole ocean become awake?

Maybe "GOD" is another name for "Nature"

[donovanrules123123]

Your a fucking idiot. I've been getting A's in chemistry, biology, and physics. And I've studied many of these theories heavily. There is NO evidence for the "big bang", infact, it hasn't even been proven that the universe is continually expanded. So take your fuckin retarded scientific theory and shove it up your ass!

[goog2k]

Have you ever heard of Hubble, you dumbass??

He was the one who DISCOVERED there were galaxies outside the Milky Way.

He also discovered the universe was expanding.

Ever heard of the Red Shift the Hubble constant ?

What are they?? Do you even know???

Go read your Bible. You're more suited for fairy tales. Do you believe in unicorns and the tooth fairy too???

[donovanrules123123]

AHAHAHA!!!! Do you remember when scientists said there was no water on the moon? When they said it was just a bunch of useless rocks and dust? What have they found now? WATER!!! If we can't even get it right with something that's so close to the earth, how can you POSSIBLY expect scientists to get it right over millions of light years? Yes, I've studied red shift, and if you've read enough about it you'l understand all its faults and how it disproves the big bang.

[donovanrules123123]

creation.

com/our-galaxy-is-the-centre-o­f-the-universe-quantized-redsh­ifts-show

creation.

com/bye-bye-big-bang

[kimbu2]

Tnks for your video. very insightful and I do believe that God exist. I know we as christians don't even need to ask if were he came from. Because we are asking questions that are beyond our understanding and beyond our standards. Just believe in him

[Jacob2Israel]

good work s1t2e3v4, i am glad that you made this video, yogi bear needs some advice!

[s1t2e3v4]

This is crazy.( I removed the nutty comments) I respectfully ask everyone to be a little less foul mouthed and outragoues. We are all looking for the truth and Jesus is the truth I HAVE FOUND. so I dont care if you post things against my faith but pleez dont curz me out. THIS VIDEO IS 3 YEARS OLD. I WAS 13 WHEN I WROTE THIS, TODAY I AM EVEN MORE STRENGHTEND IN MY FAITH AND I WILL PUT A MORE RECENT VIDEO UP. PEACE.

[TheFlST]

Nice fail on your part, bible-thumper.

Matthew 26:64

"Jesus said unto him, 'Thou hast said: nevertheless I say unto you, Henceforth ye shall see the Son of man sitting at the right hand of Power, and coming ON THE CLOUDS OF HEAVEN'"

Yep, you're officially full of shit, much like your bible.

[LBBSTOMAJCCDP]

@TheFlST Yes that is the correct verse, but as I stated in my previous reply, can you disprove the possibilty that Heaven is an immaterial collection of 'souls'? You can't logically argue that biblical people knew what was beyond the sky. Unless you think the had their own spaceships, in which case you are insane. So it is not his use of that verse that makes him full of shit, it is YOUR closed-mindedness to the possibilities in the universe that makes YOU full of shit. God Bless

[TheFlST]

Up where? In the clouds? Sorry to disappoint you, but there is no "up there". We've soared above the skies and have found no traces of what you call heaven. Your spooky ghost stories don't scare me. Nice try

[LBBSTOMAJCCDP]

@TheFlST "up there" is just a phrase. So get that pineapple out of your ass. Can you prove that Heaven is not a collection of the 'souls' of the deceased, in a an immaterial setting (just like God and human emotions/character are immaterial)? This was a well thought out video for such a young man to create. Please continue on your path with God and post more vids.

[marshmallowchips]

And if there is anyone here that is doubting others beliefs, better knock it off cuz' u cant change others opinions and beliefs. NOBODY IN THE WORLD will know the truth about God. Who made us?! God is just something or someone that is in our hearts if we truly believe him....

Like Luduvugla, She/He believes Something cant come out of nothing, etc.... thats okay, because I think shes wrong; i have a different guess.

Some ppl believe the bible, some do not, and we gotta accept it....

[marshmallowchips]

I believe in god, but i cant believe that he made earth & living organisms. they say in the bible that he created earth in 7 days, but 7 days to him is like thousands of years....its too impossible though!!

I think earth was just a broken piece of a planet that began evolving as time passed. Then the first living organisms came to earth. and so on and so forth!

its like, Who made god? Who is god? How can god make us? the world?

so many questions, so many possible answers...

[s1t2e3v4]

Im my opinion there has to be something supernatural because the order of this world insists this. The whole world is so very complex and to say it evolved by chance and time, is to also say for example a computer just assembles itself by chance. I believe God has no creater because he is above time. Time is just a dimention we live in and he created time. He can create and destroy because in our Dimention we cannot create nor destroy only change. it sounds crazy I dont know how else to explain.

[LBBSTOMAJCCDP]

@marshmallowchips is anything really impossible for God?

[marshmallowchips]

@LBBSTOMAJCCDP Possibly.

[pickled321123]

f in the very beginning it is impossible for nothing to appear from nothing!! that would be a universal law, so who put that law in place! it would still take a god to create that law! in my mind its only man that creates that law! the fact is that law has never existed! and the true god is infinite creation which never ends

[pickled321123]

god created man in his own image!

or god invented man and now man invents god!

seems we are all one and the same!

in the sense we are all free and eternal!

[s1t2e3v4]

Im kinda confused with your theories.

[s1t2e3v4]

Talk a little sense please.

[TheFlST]

Yeah I should probably remove that one...

[quisqueyatv]

i tried to see if you could prove a point. but nothing you are just repeating same stuff with no evidences at all. i believe in reincarnation as i believe i'm a alive, i just do so since i can remember my past life.

[crazylazybaby]

he did prove a point i am a muslim and im telling you he did a really good job making this video..

i ask god humbally to show us all the right way.... .awman

[quisqueyatv]

you ask imaginary friend! ahhahah

[BCLASSICHORROR]

i'am with you on this one and the past life thing but you have to give the kid something for trying to believe in something or pass the word on , even if it is not true at least he tryed to do or say something ? no ?

[s1t2e3v4]

Yes I do repeat, that is because the logic behind it is so simple and everything else is just different facts to back it up. The logic is simply that a universe that we are also part of is restricted by rules and only a supernatural being that is not under these rules can create us. This I backed up the bible because of its history and with logic. This video was posted abt 1 year ago when I was 14.today I have learned much more and I will post another video if I have time. seek truth nothingelse

[quisqueyatv]

the logic behind it may look simple just because an old stupid book writing 2,000 years ago says it doesn't mean is completely true, they might be the possibility of a god or super counsiesnes but not the way the bible describes it!

[s1t2e3v4]

I was trying to show that the bible is legit. Through logic and the bible's history. The presence of God and its explanation is so visible in the bible but until you feel that presence move in you, I can't convince you of anything. The reason why it makes sense is because of Jesus. What other Religion do you see a God coming down to die for his creation?. There is life after death. I know sometimes its hard to believe but what if there is and you miss an eternity just because of ignorance. truth

[quisqueyatv]

well you didn't show no ligitibility! just pure non-sense taked from an old book made 100% by idiots 2,000 years ago. i also felt " the presence of god in me" when i used to be a fool like you, but then i got my common sense back and realize it was all in my head pure imagination. and yes there has being many other religions cleaming the similar encounter. i'm happy now that i being liberated from religious bullshits, my life has improved.

[s1t2e3v4]

k. I understand, I don't mind that you don't understand my point of view and respect it. You might be right or I might be right. Whatever we believe we have to know it from a search of and nothingelse. In my life this is what I found to be the truth. Just letting you see another side of it. Peace.

[s1t2e3v4]

You comment makes sense. I would agree with you but looking at all other Gods whoever it would be did not lay it's life for its Creation. Only Jesus did this and its beauty is overwhelming. most other religions tell to work for your salvation whether its heaven or a better reincarnation and nothing is a given. Only Jesus dies for the sure salvation of any man who beleives in him.

[juuonse]

@s1t2e3v4 How...exactly... is dying while knowing you'll be resurrected a sacrifice? What exactly are you sacrificing? 3 days? Seems kinda worthless if you are eternal.So please, don't argue that "god gave his only son for mankind"...because he obviously didn't if we are to believe what the bible says. And you say bible doesn't contradict itself?Lets see....Genesis 1 and 2 disagree on order of what was created, different gospels disagree on who/what was in Jesus' tomb after resurrection, etc...

[s1t2e3v4]

@juuonse When I say Jesus dies, I mean his fleshly being that he put on.. he dies in his flesh in two ways.. first by not giving in to his fleshly desires and then by taking all of mankind's sin in his sinless body and dieing baring the wrath of God that was supposed to be carried out on those sins. he was resurrected after baring the judgment of mankind's sins... If you could be more specific about the contradictions it could help. thanks for taking an interest in my video :)

[s1t2e3v4]

@juuonse When I say Jesus dies, I mean his fleshly being that he put on.. he dies in his flesh in two ways.. first by not giving in to his fleshly desires and then by taking all of mankind's sin in his sinless body and dieing baring the wrath of God that was supposed to be carried out on those sins. he was resurrected after baring the judgment of mankind's sins... If you could be more specific about the contradictions it could help. thanks for taking an interest in my video :)

[juuonse]

@s1t2e3v4 How is giving away a fleshy body in anyway a sacrifice when god could pop another one for you in a blink of an eye? I'm sorry, but I just fail to see your logic.

If you go to google and search "bible contradictions" then I'm sure you'll find something interesting. Also, the bible has plenty of utterly unacceptable atrocities (Such as how to assess a slave and how to treat them,god killing all the 1st borns, allowing the "chosen" to pillage, plunder and rape with god's permission...etc)

[LBBSTOMAJCCDP]

@juuonse because He spent three days in Hell, a place I'd never wanna go.

[juuonse]

@LBBSTOMAJCCDP three days? Woooow, what a sacrifice. Come on, it would've been a sacrifice had he stayed there for all eternity. A punishment god is putting on me for not believing but any murderer, thief, psychopath, etc. is welcome in heaven just as long as they repent and believe in jebus. Tell me, why do I need to believe in jebus when god could just as well punish me according to the crimes I've made and then forgive me. Instead he is sending me to hell for all eternity for a finite crime.

[LBBSTOMAJCCDP]

@juuonse I'm sure three days in the worst place you could be, seemed longer than 3 days. And by the way, its not like people can go to hell for 4 days then go to Heaven. You go to one or the other, so it really was an ultimate sacrifice for Jesus to do that, because those in Heaven will never experiance that.

[LBBSTOMAJCCDP]

@juuonse Also, in response to "Why will God wont let me in Heaven if I dont believe in Him?" Let me ask you this,

Can a person who never buys a lottery ticket ever win the jackpot?

So why should God allow people ionto Heaven if they don't believe in it?

[juuonse]

@LBBSTOMAJCCDP is that justice and being a loving, caring and forgiving god? I didn't think so either. In the end, it is your god's decision what will happen to me. Not mine. If a robber held you at gun point then shot you because you didnt' give him his wallet then did you commit suicide? No, I didn't think so. It was the robber who made the decision. Same goes for your sky daddy.

[LBBSTOMAJCCDP]

@juuonse Your right when you say "if a robber shoots me if i dont give him my wallet, its not suicide". But even though it isnt suicide, you still have to deal with the possible consequences of not handing over your wallet. You're responsible for that part. God gives us a chance to hand over our hearts to Him, and if we don't, we accept the personal responsiblity of ignoring God. Just like, you cant help whether the robber kills you or not, but you DO have the choice of giving him the $

[juuonse]

@LBBSTOMAJCCDP You missed my point.

"So why should God allow people ionto Heaven if they don't believe in it?" Because he is supposed to benevolent, forgiving and loving. Instead he punishes me with eternal suffering. Or do you disagree?

Yes, I have the choice of giving my heart to god but in the end it is god's decision on whether he sends me to hell or heaven. He could still send me to hell even if i gave my heart to him. The choice is not mine to make, I'm at his mercy.

[juuonse]

@juuonse and no, I do not believe such a thing exists. I'm merely accepting it for the sake of these arguments. Lastly, had Jesus stayed in hell for all eternity and this way opening a passageway for all souls to go to heaven I would've accepted an "ultimate sacrifice claim".But no,it was no sacrifice at all,you are supposed to take the sins of all humanity which is worth 3 days in hell? then you get pulled out. I live a good life without god and for that sin I get to spend all eternity in hell?

[LBBSTOMAJCCDP]

@quisqueyatv So you aren't anti-God, you're just anti-Christian?

[quisqueyatv]

@LBBSTOMAJCCDP

neither, I'm anti stupidity and non-rationality.

[s1t2e3v4]

If yu ask anybody "Did humans make the bulockcart" They wil most likly reply "yes" ask em'"Are yu sure What if energy and mass charging from oposite sides colide creating a big BANG and the shrapnls neatly cut the wood evenly both side then slowly a rod devolped then two oxens got entranced and slwly a bar gently came on thier necks and then they stared walking,Isnt this posible?.Most probaly theyll say no if a simple thing as bulockcart canot be created by itslf how can the whle infnite unverse

[s1t2e3v4]

I was on the train the other day with a very intelligent athiest who explianed to me the process in which he beilieves the universe was created when I questioned him about the intial mass of energy from which he claimed the whole universe was made, he told me those questions can never be answered so stop beating your brain for the answer but my qeuestion is that dont we have a right to knoe the truth and if there is a truth why do we want to ignore it. Why Be Ignorant??

[Dangerwinn]

God created all religion. We go back until we evolve then go back to heaven. After all the animals that humans kill, you think they allow that up in heaven. Thou shall not kill is not specifically toward humans only.

[s1t2e3v4]

Lets talk about evolution for a minute, A theory that has no begining, Lets go to the beggining of evolution it all started from one cell . the question is where did that cell come from then you might say chemicals then i would ask where did the chemicals come from, at some point you have to agree that there was something that was not based on evolution's laws and time that created something for anything to begin.

[s1t2e3v4]

This supernatural being we call God and evolution theory is really flawed think about if monkeys have 48 chromosones and we have 46 by losing 2 chromosones how did we become more complicated beings than the monkey it makes no sense.

[Dangerwinn]

Evolution is not complete science, they can't prove that God doesn't exist. Did you watch the video I sent to you?

[Dangerwinn]

Stop trying to cut and paste the same information and sending it to everyone. You need to go do more correct research before disrespecting other people or religion.

[s1t2e3v4]

Listen..to..love...and ...you ..will...learn..the...Truth. Love is something that exsists in us but we don't understand it, We feel it, we act on it but never see its true form. God is something that exsists in and outside of us, we don't understand him but we feel him tugging at our heart everytime we hear the name Christ. We act for and against him coz society calls everyone who believes in him deluded. We never see his true form yet cannot disprove him. Yes Love can show you truth in freedom.