So, when the gas explodes, these 2 parts of the ball are getting "shot" to the outside. But the ball doesn't get speed in rotation direction, or did i miss something?
it seems realistic until combustion how is this ball being propelled by the explosion of gas and air i dont understand. next vid should describe it. and wat about oil and seal how does the ball work without seizing from heat
@xstr33tr4cerx It is propelled by the force of the expanding gases pushing against the big black ball bearings, in their guide - IMHO - this sort of motor would have a very limited maximum output - a very inverse relationship to fuel/fire input to increase in ouput RPM/Torque - I guess you can think of those ball slide and grooves as having a function similar to a cam shaft, but power is derived from the guide, which cannot be sustainable.
I see how its supposed to work. As the fuel ignites, it pushes the two... hemispheres?.... apart. This in turn drives the two ball shaped bearings apart on the track, which drives them further along that track, imparting rotational energy onto the driveshaft
Very impressive design. The V8, Wankel & the SBall engines. What are the advantages between the three? Why would I want the SBall instead? If more fuel efficiant, then yup, I want it. :)
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to me it seems over complicated, and unreliable. it would be nearly impossble to keep air-tight, and cause too much friction. that said, it's nice to see new ideas. who knows, with a few adjustments, it could be used for something
I don't have the knowledge to be able to comment directly about the mechanical dynamics of this concept. That said, one thing is clear, and that's the exceptional outside-the-box thinking that is able to so radically change the internal combustion engine. I love such a rare and valuable imagination. It is this type of thinking that our world -- in its present mess -- so badly needs.
Congratulations to Arnold Wagner and his team...I applaud you!
problem... those balls that keep the ball in place woud wear down in the first use. think of how fast of rpm's those are going at and wit a motion like that? no way.
Looks pretty good (Thumb Up)... But engineering is not about making up a device... it is about creating a device, that you are able to manufacture, assemble and run. I think, such engine would not be profitable.
But it's still basically a back-forth piston. With many more moving parts. It would probably be less efficient than a standard piston due to the increased friction.
This motor would be so efficient and indestructable and really was created by a genius. I am actually supprised that the men in black haven't removed this posting, like they have done with so many other technological posts that can treaten the mass usage of our fossil fuels. (The whole conspiracy is all about gread and the love of money, and us being dependent monetry on them) How's that for a shot between the eyes fellas!) wise up people. (sorry about my spelling)
There is vertually no small load bearing parts, exept the main counter shaft bearings, and we know how hard they are to blow up.All parts are big and chunky. Much like a CV joint in a front wheel drive car, only twenty times bigger and more reliable. No more small moving parts, with extremely close and crutial tolerances, that break as soon a bit to much wear or power occurs (just think about the topend bearings in every pistons con rod, thousands of inches,)
This is a classic engine, containing the only two machanical motors in existance. The sliding motor and the rotating motor. The friction in this engine would be minimal with the oil injection system in the sliding and rotating areas. The best thing about this design which makes it truely a mechanical marvel is how indestructable and powerfull it is.
friction is a big factor. it can be fixed, the guides that open and close the compression chamber it's an eccelent idea to improve compression, intake traveling area its too long and runs across hot surfaces and get heat to fuel and air = poor fuel economy. basic idea is good, needs cooling for high rpm's. direct injection it's a solution (lincoln mks eco boost) research about it and good luck!
there might not actually be that great of friction area - the whole entire inner-spheroid surface does not need to be "sealing" and contact the exterior-spheroid - only the edges must be sealing. Ceramic and graphite sealing edges greatly reduce the friction and increase sealing tolerances: Very Plausible. Compression stroke is ingenious! Main problem will be engine cooling., as I do not see a simple method of cooling the inner-spheroid.
An interesting idea, and it looks cool in this animation, but... the friction surfaces are greater than most every engine I know of, and it seems to me the illustrated design needlessly and wastefully inducts air, compresses it, then decompresses it to recompress it. Really, the air or fuel/air intake could be simplified greatly with no moving part, just induct the air with an intake port, like the exhaust port only in reverse (on the other side of the sphere).
@DeaconBlues007 - yeah, this looks like a total Rube Goldberg. However, I'd like to see a working prototype. I think any well-thought idea is worth the effort, even if it busts. You never know til you try it.
electric cars are not wholesale zero polution, some might be , it america over night went electric car , billions of jouls of electrical power would have to come from fossil fuel, i have no issue however with this being less poluting than the current internal combustion,
agreed. maybe all that friction is not necessary. the pistons, it seems, possess massive lateral surface area. would they be any less functional if they didn't?
ruthlessone3k: LOL! If you had any rational argument to counter my comments, you would have made them... instead all you can do is hurl insults... anyone reading what you said, and what I said, would be forced to come to one conclusion: you're a moronic twit that cannot support your viewpoint-- and what I said must be correct. Go crawl back under the rock you came from, you pathetic ninny.
There's going to be a lot of wear on that ball & groove, is this motor more efficient in any way ?, or is this just trying to impress you with another German invention soon to be sold to the Japanese.
It's an engine-- it could be used anywhere that any internal combustion engine could be used, such as in an automobile. It's an ingenious design... unfortunately, it's still an engine, though, which means that it would still produce pollution and would need to consume fuel. Now that we have electric vehicles that can power a car with zero pollution, only cost a penny per mile for electricity and only have one moving part, it's obsolete.
true electric cars produce little to no pollution of there own but how about the power plant supplying the electric to charge it most power plants are coal fired. and if you compare the carbon out put of a well tuned modern car compared to the amount of carbon produced to provide enough power at the power plant to charge an electric car.
you'll quickly see that they are not as green as they first seem
ruthlessone 3k-- listen up, jackass-- all you're doing is parroting the misinformation that oil companies are passing off to attack the use of EVs. If you check, you'll see that everyone from the EPA on down has proved that not to be the case through dozens of studies. EVs are FAR more efficient and produce less pollution than any other system, including biofuels, fuel cells, etc. Among other things, many areas such as mine use no coal at all-- we use mainly hydro, natural gas, solar etc.
ruthless(cont'd) gasoline engines... once U compute all costs,inefficiencies, &losses such as the big, smelly tanker trucks that have to deliver the gas... EVs need no such labor- and energy- intensive delivery systems-- gasoline is about 10% or less efficient, EVs more like 85% or better. You have no hope of creating any gasoline at home to put in your tank, but tens of thousands of people all over the world already power their own cars with home solar panels... & more are doing so every day.
LIAR! there is no method of power generation that is 85% efficient, and what kind of products are left from that power generation like natural gas?
and for ev's internal efficiency, again i have to call BS. batteries are nowhere near that efficient. what do you think all that heat is? that's a loss you simpleton
to wecametobelieve: listen up, dimwit-- YouTube doesn't allow us to put URLs in our comments, but there are PLENTY of online sources that break down the facts on the comparative efficiencies of EVs and fueled vehicles, but one of the best is on Tesla's website... others are Union of Concerned Scientists, EPA, etc... and if they were giving wrong data, you can be SURE the oil companies would make big issues of it. Go crawl back under the rock you came from.
That's where the new batteries are getting good at. Many new batteries develope almost no heat at all. An electric car has almost up to 90% energy effeciency according to most car companies.
the problem is where the electricity is coming from, and compare to oil so are all of solutions today better! Even coal plants are more effecient than the most modern oil engine.
ruthlessone (cont'd) NanoSolar... google it... received the award from Popular Science Mag as the best new innovation of the year... their panels are 10 X more cost-effective than conventional solar panels, are flexible and can be rolled up like newspaper, and the company making them is already in production to install solar panels on 100,000 homes per year, & with more factories they could ramp up 2 even greater production. Soon nearly every homeowner in the US could B charging their own EVs.
rutheless(cont'd): I will point out that all you have to offer is criticism-- gas is $4. a gallon and climbing, supplies dwindle, demand is skyrocketing due to competition from CHina, India and other formerly destitute countries-- and you offer no solutions! At least people that are looking for answers in developing EVs are trying to look for solutions while all you offer is-- NOTHING! You have no right to criticize if you cannot offer legitimate solutions!
Ok time to climb down off your pedestal for a moment and look around. a solar system for a house costs between 6k and 10k and if you havent noticed todays economy isnt the greatest(and yes before you find the need to go on one of your never ending rants I know for that matter we all know oil is a big part of the problem)and not many of us have 6-10k to drop on a solar system. that being said, where are we supposed to buy a reliable electric car that can still haul the family more than 100 miles
ruthless: A Phoenix Motorcar EV costs $47,500... go to their website... I already have a down payment on one. A typical driver spends $400. a month on gasoline... that's about as much as you'd spend on car payments 4 a Phoenix that costs about 3 cents/ mile for electricity. After your payemnts are finished, all you are spending is pocket change for electricity- the batteries will last for decades- I am also converting a BMW coupe to an EV... very expensive conversion, but it's the same story.
must say I agree with you here I havn't heard of Phoenix Motorcar until now and it does at a quick glance seem to be one of the first EVs that has the potential to compete in a mainstream market. I am less than impressed by the 10 sec 0-60 time but even I would be willing to sacrafice acceleration to not have to buy gas. and the onboard recharger time is even reasonable so even I, a 2-stroke loving tire frying gasaholic give you a thumbs up for this find
ruthless (cont'd): I know of others that have converted smaller cars... Porsche 914s, Miatas, Triumphs, etc... to EVs, for as little as $5,000 but with less spectacular performance. Look right here in YouTube, you'll see plenty of EV conversion vids. If someone wants one, with a little trouble it can be done. They are super quiet, virtually no maintenance, extremely simple mechanically: my BMW coupe, including motor and tranny, will have about a dozen moving parts... much time & money saved.
someone make a cube engine now!
C0LL1N 4 months ago
I'm wondering about heat dissipation. Even with cooling jackets, the ball itself seems like it would get extremely hot and break down.
gconol 5 months ago
So, when the gas explodes, these 2 parts of the ball are getting "shot" to the outside. But the ball doesn't get speed in rotation direction, or did i miss something?
quaditz 5 months ago
IT works now you just need to build it.
SuperKenny720 6 months ago
those ball bearing had better be made out of Dragonforce
azuritet3 8 months ago
it seems realistic until combustion how is this ball being propelled by the explosion of gas and air i dont understand. next vid should describe it. and wat about oil and seal how does the ball work without seizing from heat
xstr33tr4cerx 8 months ago
@xstr33tr4cerx It is propelled by the force of the expanding gases pushing against the big black ball bearings, in their guide - IMHO - this sort of motor would have a very limited maximum output - a very inverse relationship to fuel/fire input to increase in ouput RPM/Torque - I guess you can think of those ball slide and grooves as having a function similar to a cam shaft, but power is derived from the guide, which cannot be sustainable.
prozacgod 7 months ago
I see how its supposed to work. As the fuel ignites, it pushes the two... hemispheres?.... apart. This in turn drives the two ball shaped bearings apart on the track, which drives them further along that track, imparting rotational energy onto the driveshaft
GhostofIsraphel 9 months ago
it might work but the spark plug firing might be a issue at higher rpmsalso how would you keep oil out the compression chamber?
Insane82chevy 1 year ago
Very impressive design. The V8, Wankel & the SBall engines. What are the advantages between the three? Why would I want the SBall instead? If more fuel efficiant, then yup, I want it. :)
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lutherarao 1 year ago
Barely works on paper
ahha
musclekid13 1 year ago
looks dangerous and unbalanced at high RPMs
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slipshodcoqbgg 1 year ago
to me it seems over complicated, and unreliable. it would be nearly impossble to keep air-tight, and cause too much friction. that said, it's nice to see new ideas. who knows, with a few adjustments, it could be used for something
n7m6e7 1 year ago
@n7m6e7 Maybe you could pump air into it and use it as a new kind of air motor.
TheMrBlinx 1 year ago
This Might Be Our Engine In The Future .
MegaDisclaimer 1 year ago
I don't have the knowledge to be able to comment directly about the mechanical dynamics of this concept. That said, one thing is clear, and that's the exceptional outside-the-box thinking that is able to so radically change the internal combustion engine. I love such a rare and valuable imagination. It is this type of thinking that our world -- in its present mess -- so badly needs.
Congratulations to Arnold Wagner and his team...I applaud you!
JamesThomas 1 year ago
brilliant, would love to see a working model
l1011l 1 year ago
problem... those balls that keep the ball in place woud wear down in the first use. think of how fast of rpm's those are going at and wit a motion like that? no way.
mcsnowman11 1 year ago
Looks pretty good (Thumb Up)... But engineering is not about making up a device... it is about creating a device, that you are able to manufacture, assemble and run. I think, such engine would not be profitable.
1moonlord2 1 year ago
Mechanically, will it hold together? Nice design.
Kimble275 1 year ago
very interesting although it needs to scavenge some intake to clean up the exhaust charge just before the end of the exhaust stroke.
powersliding 1 year ago
+1 for an actual running engine.
SnoDraken 1 year ago
Nice intricate design and all...
But it's still basically a back-forth piston. With many more moving parts. It would probably be less efficient than a standard piston due to the increased friction.
Beautiful, but this is form over function.
L00NGB00W 2 years ago
I Agree.
I was thinking about the friction as the model ran. Pretty animation though
kokopelli314 2 years ago
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mcmukmob 1 year ago
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mcmukmob 1 year ago
This motor would be so efficient and indestructable and really was created by a genius. I am actually supprised that the men in black haven't removed this posting, like they have done with so many other technological posts that can treaten the mass usage of our fossil fuels. (The whole conspiracy is all about gread and the love of money, and us being dependent monetry on them) How's that for a shot between the eyes fellas!) wise up people. (sorry about my spelling)
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There is vertually no small load bearing parts, exept the main counter shaft bearings, and we know how hard they are to blow up.All parts are big and chunky. Much like a CV joint in a front wheel drive car, only twenty times bigger and more reliable. No more small moving parts, with extremely close and crutial tolerances, that break as soon a bit to much wear or power occurs (just think about the topend bearings in every pistons con rod, thousands of inches,)
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This is a classic engine, containing the only two machanical motors in existance. The sliding motor and the rotating motor. The friction in this engine would be minimal with the oil injection system in the sliding and rotating areas. The best thing about this design which makes it truely a mechanical marvel is how indestructable and powerfull it is.
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janota26 2 years ago
friction is a big factor. it can be fixed, the guides that open and close the compression chamber it's an eccelent idea to improve compression, intake traveling area its too long and runs across hot surfaces and get heat to fuel and air = poor fuel economy. basic idea is good, needs cooling for high rpm's. direct injection it's a solution (lincoln mks eco boost) research about it and good luck!
futuristictech 2 years ago
The Mighty Engine.
Go and ck that out it looks to work? + burn veg oils, bieo-fuel could be a compressor [sp] and makes a lots of HP for it size.
maybe these guys have it right ????
wdwalker861 2 years ago
nope!!
futuristictech 2 years ago
I do not see it working except here on paper, and as sombody said cooling
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I just don't think it would work That is the one person, find out with the thumbs
wdwalker861 2 years ago 8
Great design BUT where is the carter? Whow to lubrify this in action? It will not work in real conditions but the idea is good.
Godarth 2 years ago 3
that is awsome i would love to see a actual running version, great design!
yamaha94 2 years ago
there might not actually be that great of friction area - the whole entire inner-spheroid surface does not need to be "sealing" and contact the exterior-spheroid - only the edges must be sealing. Ceramic and graphite sealing edges greatly reduce the friction and increase sealing tolerances: Very Plausible. Compression stroke is ingenious! Main problem will be engine cooling., as I do not see a simple method of cooling the inner-spheroid.
ptrimby 2 years ago 4
very interesting, but how the fuck does it work:p
JeroenLondon 2 years ago
return to elementary
harckez 2 years ago
ummm... interesant
james88venezuela 2 years ago
INTENSE!
chicitychyea 2 years ago
I am sure you will enjoy "The Best Rotary Engine" here in YouTube.
¡Congratulations!
yontopapa 2 years ago 2
4 Stars for:
No background music (I had to provide my own) that just sucks..
Seriously, it would have been great to have an English explanation, because it looks extremely interesting right now.. but that's about all.
MRSketch09 2 years ago
I like the shape created for combustion..... more efficient burning than a orthodox cylinder.
SteffanLlwyd 2 years ago
how the expanding gases make rotation
gta4forps3king 2 years ago
What type power per displacement (or BMEP) is this motor supposed to make?
Very interesting.
SNUBNOSESAM 2 years ago
An interesting idea, and it looks cool in this animation, but... the friction surfaces are greater than most every engine I know of, and it seems to me the illustrated design needlessly and wastefully inducts air, compresses it, then decompresses it to recompress it. Really, the air or fuel/air intake could be simplified greatly with no moving part, just induct the air with an intake port, like the exhaust port only in reverse (on the other side of the sphere).
DeaconBlues007 2 years ago 12
@DeaconBlues007 - yeah, this looks like a total Rube Goldberg. However, I'd like to see a working prototype. I think any well-thought idea is worth the effort, even if it busts. You never know til you try it.
mandachuva28 1 year ago
@mandachuva28 And waste millions of dollars in the process!
GMoneyQ69 1 year ago
why. the concept isn't even close to being able to work, let alone very challenging.
freakin1random 3 years ago
cool concept
wheetcracker 3 years ago
non oil needed? it don't need it, yahooo...
sebairaf3 3 years ago
This engine has some of the same problems that the Wankel has only worse. The friction surfaces are huge! Sealing would be a big problem.
XCritonX 3 years ago 4
where is oil :D
aslaner 3 years ago
I think the oil is probably mixed in with the fuel like a 2 cycle engine.
Bowyerma 3 years ago
Nah, Oil is over rated.
TheMisterP 3 years ago
Alright, then drain your oil out of your car and start driving down the road to find out how over rated oil really is.
Bowyerma 3 years ago 3
I already did... It didn't work out as well as I had hoped. lol
TheMisterP 3 years ago
dumbass...
dalejrfan800 2 years ago
eine sehr gute idee, aber dieses system hat einen hohen verschleiß und is eine art kopie des wankelmotors....
muckiwerner 3 years ago
nice koncept but i think that it cant pass exam in car. car engine should be more persistent.
arturmucha22 3 years ago
I want to see one run...
TheMisterP 3 years ago
samezies!
sh3lbot 3 years ago
Holy shit... I posted that 2 months ago. lol
TheMisterP 3 years ago
Great vid, explains perfectly the concept.
JUANBOECK 3 years ago
Ummm... I'll stick with the Cummins Turbo diesel, thank you.
crystalyshiva 3 years ago
electric cars are not wholesale zero polution, some might be , it america over night went electric car , billions of jouls of electrical power would have to come from fossil fuel, i have no issue however with this being less poluting than the current internal combustion,
imogenslips 3 years ago
Visualy graceful but megafriction
savantrenaissanceman 3 years ago
agreed. maybe all that friction is not necessary. the pistons, it seems, possess massive lateral surface area. would they be any less functional if they didn't?
kenpoka65 3 years ago
really? all that just to say "im a tree hugger"
ruthlessone3k 3 years ago
ruthlessone3k: LOL! If you had any rational argument to counter my comments, you would have made them... instead all you can do is hurl insults... anyone reading what you said, and what I said, would be forced to come to one conclusion: you're a moronic twit that cannot support your viewpoint-- and what I said must be correct. Go crawl back under the rock you came from, you pathetic ninny.
billdale1 3 years ago
ridiculous
canaanav 3 years ago
So etwas geniales hab ich noch nie gesehen!
Soetwas seh ich heute zum allerersten mal.
Wusste gar nicht dass es sowas gibt.
Da wirk das Prinzip vom Wankel billig dagegen.
Da war ein richtig schlaues Hirn am Werk!
Allergrößten Respekt!
Thomsonduke 3 years ago
Thats a great design and concept I looking for learning more about it. Congratulations
Caribeboy8 3 years ago
Try DaVinci wheel
skibee50 3 years ago
There's going to be a lot of wear on that ball & groove, is this motor more efficient in any way ?, or is this just trying to impress you with another German invention soon to be sold to the Japanese.
PupuTheClown 3 years ago
Really nice, though there it's a bit complicated.
Not to forget : Yet awesome !
I'm guessin there will be verry little vibrations.
Chrutonius 3 years ago
Are these manufactured anywhere yet?
Hallaran 3 years ago
This is a well executed demo or a superb idea. I hope it gets accepted.
mikeauret 4 years ago
It's an engine-- it could be used anywhere that any internal combustion engine could be used, such as in an automobile. It's an ingenious design... unfortunately, it's still an engine, though, which means that it would still produce pollution and would need to consume fuel. Now that we have electric vehicles that can power a car with zero pollution, only cost a penny per mile for electricity and only have one moving part, it's obsolete.
billdale1 4 years ago
true electric cars produce little to no pollution of there own but how about the power plant supplying the electric to charge it most power plants are coal fired. and if you compare the carbon out put of a well tuned modern car compared to the amount of carbon produced to provide enough power at the power plant to charge an electric car.
you'll quickly see that they are not as green as they first seem
ruthlessone3k 3 years ago
ruthlessone 3k-- listen up, jackass-- all you're doing is parroting the misinformation that oil companies are passing off to attack the use of EVs. If you check, you'll see that everyone from the EPA on down has proved that not to be the case through dozens of studies. EVs are FAR more efficient and produce less pollution than any other system, including biofuels, fuel cells, etc. Among other things, many areas such as mine use no coal at all-- we use mainly hydro, natural gas, solar etc.
billdale1 3 years ago
just exactly what pollution does a hydrogen fuel cell produce? oh yeah, all that dang oxygen. my bad.
kenpoka65 3 years ago
ruthless(cont'd) gasoline engines... once U compute all costs,inefficiencies, &losses such as the big, smelly tanker trucks that have to deliver the gas... EVs need no such labor- and energy- intensive delivery systems-- gasoline is about 10% or less efficient, EVs more like 85% or better. You have no hope of creating any gasoline at home to put in your tank, but tens of thousands of people all over the world already power their own cars with home solar panels... & more are doing so every day.
billdale1 3 years ago
LIAR! there is no method of power generation that is 85% efficient, and what kind of products are left from that power generation like natural gas?
and for ev's internal efficiency, again i have to call BS. batteries are nowhere near that efficient. what do you think all that heat is? that's a loss you simpleton
wecametobelieve 2 years ago
to wecametobelieve: listen up, dimwit-- YouTube doesn't allow us to put URLs in our comments, but there are PLENTY of online sources that break down the facts on the comparative efficiencies of EVs and fueled vehicles, but one of the best is on Tesla's website... others are Union of Concerned Scientists, EPA, etc... and if they were giving wrong data, you can be SURE the oil companies would make big issues of it. Go crawl back under the rock you came from.
billdale1 2 years ago
That's where the new batteries are getting good at. Many new batteries develope almost no heat at all. An electric car has almost up to 90% energy effeciency according to most car companies.
the problem is where the electricity is coming from, and compare to oil so are all of solutions today better! Even coal plants are more effecient than the most modern oil engine.
andrefantastisk 2 years ago
ruthlessone (cont'd) NanoSolar... google it... received the award from Popular Science Mag as the best new innovation of the year... their panels are 10 X more cost-effective than conventional solar panels, are flexible and can be rolled up like newspaper, and the company making them is already in production to install solar panels on 100,000 homes per year, & with more factories they could ramp up 2 even greater production. Soon nearly every homeowner in the US could B charging their own EVs.
billdale1 3 years ago
rutheless(cont'd): I will point out that all you have to offer is criticism-- gas is $4. a gallon and climbing, supplies dwindle, demand is skyrocketing due to competition from CHina, India and other formerly destitute countries-- and you offer no solutions! At least people that are looking for answers in developing EVs are trying to look for solutions while all you offer is-- NOTHING! You have no right to criticize if you cannot offer legitimate solutions!
billdale1 3 years ago
Ok time to climb down off your pedestal for a moment and look around. a solar system for a house costs between 6k and 10k and if you havent noticed todays economy isnt the greatest(and yes before you find the need to go on one of your never ending rants I know for that matter we all know oil is a big part of the problem)and not many of us have 6-10k to drop on a solar system. that being said, where are we supposed to buy a reliable electric car that can still haul the family more than 100 miles
ruthlessone3k 3 years ago
ruthless: A Phoenix Motorcar EV costs $47,500... go to their website... I already have a down payment on one. A typical driver spends $400. a month on gasoline... that's about as much as you'd spend on car payments 4 a Phoenix that costs about 3 cents/ mile for electricity. After your payemnts are finished, all you are spending is pocket change for electricity- the batteries will last for decades- I am also converting a BMW coupe to an EV... very expensive conversion, but it's the same story.
billdale1 3 years ago
must say I agree with you here I havn't heard of Phoenix Motorcar until now and it does at a quick glance seem to be one of the first EVs that has the potential to compete in a mainstream market. I am less than impressed by the 10 sec 0-60 time but even I would be willing to sacrafice acceleration to not have to buy gas. and the onboard recharger time is even reasonable so even I, a 2-stroke loving tire frying gasaholic give you a thumbs up for this find
ruthlessone3k 3 years ago
ruthless (cont'd): I know of others that have converted smaller cars... Porsche 914s, Miatas, Triumphs, etc... to EVs, for as little as $5,000 but with less spectacular performance. Look right here in YouTube, you'll see plenty of EV conversion vids. If someone wants one, with a little trouble it can be done. They are super quiet, virtually no maintenance, extremely simple mechanically: my BMW coupe, including motor and tranny, will have about a dozen moving parts... much time & money saved.
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ruthlessone3k 3 years ago
this is awesome...what is it used for?
elchavitoprieto 4 years ago