to Bevan3000, how are you speaking about dividing the land between palesinians and jews ?! and every body knows that no land for jews it palestinian land israelis are not suitable for living in peace they like and fond of killing actually no land for israel and one day we will kick you out of our land ( Egyptian)
''Shouldnt the Palestinians have been the ones to offer the Jews land among themselves and the matter of rejecting it or accepting it be laid at their feet rather then the other way around?''... ''I do not believe (listening to the testimonies and actions, as well as policies & the breaking of the Geneva convention and more international laws then every other country) that they want peace. ''
I think the fact that you can watch this short video clip and then so glibbly say ''child killers'' reflects more on your how easy your opinions are shaped by a tv report.
About civilians killed. I disagree, Israel has had many more children die than you like to suggest. I'll say this, theres a massive ethical difference between civilian who die in the cross fire of a military and civilians who die because they were targeted for murder.
No thats where your mistaken, its after watching several videos and seeing the same thing over and over again where I weigh a thing out and decide. I witnessed with my own eyes an Isreal soldier pointing an M-16 in the face of a child that could be no more then 2 years old for Gods sake, and another where even witnesses confirm a child under 9 was target practice who did nothing. I saw drunk teens threaten a man on his property, women tormenting palestinian women its on a very personal level
What you are talking about is the minority of Israelis, mainly settlers and a few soldiers. A reminder you didnt actually give an example of any children killed, you just referred to abuse. Its not fair to label Israel as child killers when the overwhelming majority of Israelis want peace.
No, its YOU (who after I posted the words "child killers" in relation to the facts in the film) who brought in "Is a PALESTINIAN JUSTIFIED" making it a contrasted issue between the two (to which I stated NO absolutely NOT).
I will not go into every video I could have possibly seen or the history read, or the testimony of the Isreal soldiers or testimony from Jews themselves and all the other things I'm basing my overall view on theres simply not enough room...continued
Whether its the U.S killing citizens or Isreal or Russia or whoever its clearly wrong. I'm not even convinced MY OWN country wants peace anymore but has oil interests so I dont believe I'm being biased and I appreciate tha in a particular Jew named "Jack Bernstein". I do not believe (listening to the testimonies and actions, as well as policies & the breaking of the Geneva convention and more international laws then every other country) that they want peace. Theres plenty of vids to watch on it
You don't belive that Israelis and the Israeli Government want peace?... Do you know that the Palestinians in 1947 were offered statehood along side Israel but because they wanted all of the land they rejected it. Are you aware that in '67 after Israel was attacked by surrounding Arab countries that it captured the west bank and gaza and offered it back to Jordan and Egypt in return for peace but were rejected by them. Do you know that in 1999 the PM Ehud Barak offered 90% of the West Bank
..and Gaza (at Camp David) but Arafat rejected it and in return Israel got suicide bombings. Do you know that this week Ehud Olmert proposed to his cabinet to offer 98.1% of land demanded by Fatah in return for peace. Do you know that there are 1 million Palestinians living in Israel who recieve all the freedoms and liberties that are valued in a democracy. 1/2 of the Palestinian uni students are female. Theres freedom of religion and sexual orientation. Can this be said for Arab countries?
Shouldnt the Palestinians have been the ones to offer the Jews land among themselves and the matter of rejecting it or accepting it be laid at their feet rather then the other way around?
Besides with the hostilities and hatred I've witnessed on here alone toward the Palestinians I couldnt forsee a more unsafe neighbor even behind bars (which was also shown in one video) where the Palestinians were caged in and harrased continuously.
Peace peace peace (they say) but there is no real peace
In 1947? The Palestinians were not in the position to allocate the land. In fact it was the UN which passed the resolution and it was the British which owned what was then known as the Biritsh Mandate of Palestians.
Howso? If I equally believe the same thing across the board no matter who it is. Whether its the U.S or Isreal or Palestine, I not unfair. Pist, yes.. emotional? I can be, I lost my little girl at 6 I know the pain of it but certainly not by some man sticking a gun in her face delighting to blow it off. I think that would hurt a heck of alot more then an illness. Mostly because you cant get as angry at an illness but you might recall the smile on the mans face as he takes the life of your child
You suppose wrong.Child killers are child killers period. That palestinian MAN was no more justified in killing children then THE MASSIVE AMOUNT OF **MEN** on Isreals side killing THOUSANDS OF CHILDREN. The RATIO of these deaths between Palestinians and Isrealis is NO CONTEST whatsoever -NONE. Its genocidal. I wouldnt even turn an eye in the direction of the palestinian for where the greater damnation lies.
It would have been more correct to ask who was the greatest provoker
I think the fact that you can watch this short video clip and then so glibbly say ''child killers'' reflects more on your how easy your opinions are shaped by a tv report.
About civilians killed. I disagree, Israel has had many more children die than you like to suggest. I'll say this, theres a massive ethical difference between civilian who die in the cross fire of a military and civilians who die because they were targeted for murder.
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as a palestinian i hope we can live together side by side, respecting each other without violence. can they?
alikool0001 3 months ago
Almetador:
to Bevan3000, how are you speaking about dividing the land between palesinians and jews ?! and every body knows that no land for jews it palestinian land israelis are not suitable for living in peace they like and fond of killing actually no land for israel and one day we will kick you out of our land ( Egyptian)
almetador 3 years ago
''Shouldnt the Palestinians have been the ones to offer the Jews land among themselves and the matter of rejecting it or accepting it be laid at their feet rather then the other way around?''... ''I do not believe (listening to the testimonies and actions, as well as policies & the breaking of the Geneva convention and more international laws then every other country) that they want peace. ''
Bevan30000 3 years ago
I think the fact that you can watch this short video clip and then so glibbly say ''child killers'' reflects more on your how easy your opinions are shaped by a tv report.
About civilians killed. I disagree, Israel has had many more children die than you like to suggest. I'll say this, theres a massive ethical difference between civilian who die in the cross fire of a military and civilians who die because they were targeted for murder.
Something you should consider.
Bevan30000 3 years ago
No thats where your mistaken, its after watching several videos and seeing the same thing over and over again where I weigh a thing out and decide. I witnessed with my own eyes an Isreal soldier pointing an M-16 in the face of a child that could be no more then 2 years old for Gods sake, and another where even witnesses confirm a child under 9 was target practice who did nothing. I saw drunk teens threaten a man on his property, women tormenting palestinian women its on a very personal level
KARStarla 3 years ago
What you are talking about is the minority of Israelis, mainly settlers and a few soldiers. A reminder you didnt actually give an example of any children killed, you just referred to abuse. Its not fair to label Israel as child killers when the overwhelming majority of Israelis want peace.
Bevan30000 3 years ago
No, its YOU (who after I posted the words "child killers" in relation to the facts in the film) who brought in "Is a PALESTINIAN JUSTIFIED" making it a contrasted issue between the two (to which I stated NO absolutely NOT).
I will not go into every video I could have possibly seen or the history read, or the testimony of the Isreal soldiers or testimony from Jews themselves and all the other things I'm basing my overall view on theres simply not enough room...continued
KARStarla 3 years ago
Whether its the U.S killing citizens or Isreal or Russia or whoever its clearly wrong. I'm not even convinced MY OWN country wants peace anymore but has oil interests so I dont believe I'm being biased and I appreciate tha in a particular Jew named "Jack Bernstein". I do not believe (listening to the testimonies and actions, as well as policies & the breaking of the Geneva convention and more international laws then every other country) that they want peace. Theres plenty of vids to watch on it
KARStarla 3 years ago
You don't belive that Israelis and the Israeli Government want peace?... Do you know that the Palestinians in 1947 were offered statehood along side Israel but because they wanted all of the land they rejected it. Are you aware that in '67 after Israel was attacked by surrounding Arab countries that it captured the west bank and gaza and offered it back to Jordan and Egypt in return for peace but were rejected by them. Do you know that in 1999 the PM Ehud Barak offered 90% of the West Bank
Bevan30000 3 years ago
..and Gaza (at Camp David) but Arafat rejected it and in return Israel got suicide bombings. Do you know that this week Ehud Olmert proposed to his cabinet to offer 98.1% of land demanded by Fatah in return for peace. Do you know that there are 1 million Palestinians living in Israel who recieve all the freedoms and liberties that are valued in a democracy. 1/2 of the Palestinian uni students are female. Theres freedom of religion and sexual orientation. Can this be said for Arab countries?
Bevan30000 3 years ago
Shouldnt the Palestinians have been the ones to offer the Jews land among themselves and the matter of rejecting it or accepting it be laid at their feet rather then the other way around?
Besides with the hostilities and hatred I've witnessed on here alone toward the Palestinians I couldnt forsee a more unsafe neighbor even behind bars (which was also shown in one video) where the Palestinians were caged in and harrased continuously.
Peace peace peace (they say) but there is no real peace
KARStarla 3 years ago
In 1947? The Palestinians were not in the position to allocate the land. In fact it was the UN which passed the resolution and it was the British which owned what was then known as the Biritsh Mandate of Palestians.
I think you'd make a fantastic Hamas spokesman.
Bevan30000 3 years ago
Yeah sure being discusted and horrified at the killing of children = terrorist
That makes so much sense ...?
KARStarla 3 years ago
No... it's your attitude towards the conflict.
Bevan30000 3 years ago
Enlighten me to what my attitude toward a conflict should be when I simply made a factual statement from the beginning
Kill a child = child killer
Why is MY "attitude" problematic?
KARStarla 3 years ago
No it would have a little something to do with the comments you've been making.
Bevan30000 3 years ago
Howso? If I equally believe the same thing across the board no matter who it is. Whether its the U.S or Isreal or Palestine, I not unfair. Pist, yes.. emotional? I can be, I lost my little girl at 6 I know the pain of it but certainly not by some man sticking a gun in her face delighting to blow it off. I think that would hurt a heck of alot more then an illness. Mostly because you cant get as angry at an illness but you might recall the smile on the mans face as he takes the life of your child
KARStarla 3 years ago
Child killers
KARStarla 3 years ago
I suppose when a Palestinian shot dead 8 school children in Jerusalem this year that this is justified resistence?...
Bevan30000 3 years ago
You suppose wrong.Child killers are child killers period. That palestinian MAN was no more justified in killing children then THE MASSIVE AMOUNT OF **MEN** on Isreals side killing THOUSANDS OF CHILDREN. The RATIO of these deaths between Palestinians and Isrealis is NO CONTEST whatsoever -NONE. Its genocidal. I wouldnt even turn an eye in the direction of the palestinian for where the greater damnation lies.
It would have been more correct to ask who was the greatest provoker
KARStarla 3 years ago
I think the fact that you can watch this short video clip and then so glibbly say ''child killers'' reflects more on your how easy your opinions are shaped by a tv report.
About civilians killed. I disagree, Israel has had many more children die than you like to suggest. I'll say this, theres a massive ethical difference between civilian who die in the cross fire of a military and civilians who die because they were targeted for murder.
Something you should consider.
Bevan30000 3 years ago