27. The wife of Mullah Jalaaluddin Rumi thought that his sexual desire had vanished. The Mullah came to know of her suspicion in a special trance of revelation (KASHF). That night he went to
the wife and drilled her 70 times. (Please excuse the language) So much so that she asked forgiveness. (Manaqib-il-Arifain, p.70, by Shamsuddin Akhlaqi) Mujaddith's of Deoband can go! See what garbage Mulla Ashraf Ali Thanwi is trying to unload. The same Thanwi whom other Mullahs call “Hakeem-ul-Ummat”!
i couldnt understand their words properly...thay were interrupting each other & talking at each other & not to each other...jihad is a noble cause & so is dawah....so whats the problem....if they have some problems they should discuss in a noble way
"It has been narrated on the authority of Abu Huraira that the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) said: One who died but did not fight in the way of Allah nor did he express any desire (or determination) for Jihad died the death of a hypocrite. "
I do not call my muslim brothers and sisters to any group, I want all the Muslims to return to Quran and authentic Sunnah To Spread Tawheed,Oneness Of ALLAh...
whatever the Messenger has given you - take; and what he has forbidden you - refrain from. And fear Allah ; indeed, Allah is severe in penalty
the little benagli brother is no experienced tablighi, he quotes the hadith of jihad al nafs which is something barelvis follow as fiqh not deobandis. half the hadith the big guy quotes are well known and his stance is probably agreed upon by people like maulana masood azhar etc.there is nothing in this video that negates the need for tablighi jamaat, &the deobandi madrasah women wear full niqaab so the fat guy is wrong there as well.they dont call to part of the deen.kafir call us extremists!!!
The white guy thinks that he is mister perfect and trying to cut off another muslim brother. People need to respect difference of opinion and support each other.
@msnabiha lol i was thinking the same thing! what kind of debate is this, in the streets with a random jamaati! why dont they go to sheikh mumtaz ul haq or abdur raheem? no daleel, just 40 days he says but there is plenty of daleel for enjoining good and forbidding evil, and giving dawah. there is a video on the right by hanafi fiqh channel. these jahils going on about jihad and khilafah need to learn how to walk before they can leap! bare in ming tablighis are deobandis and so were the taliban!
how can JIHAD be a weak hadith? It is in the Quran?? Jihad to struggle with ones desire to attain akhira is every muslims duty.. what has hadith got to do with it.. I did not understand this video at all. furthermore i do not see how this would benefit the Ummah!!
i dont consider both of them 2 be really on haqq! one is tablighi and second who calls always calls for jihad and khilafah while there are other things aswell!
sometime we cannot explain one thing using by word or speech...we people only see only the infront of their eyes, it can be a big problem... this jamaat was really humble and cheerfull, their behave already shown what actually there is.. the problem of ummat today is they use the quranic version for depend their idea, lets think by ourself, do we are good enough to use the kallamullah to depend our self, do we already apply what did we know the command of Allah totaly in our life, ..??
sometime we cannot explain one thing using by word or speech...we people only see only the infront of their eyes, it can be a big problem... this jamaat was really humble and cheerfull, their behave already shown what actually there is.. the problem of ummat today is they use the quranic version for depend their idea, lets think by ourself, do we are good enough to use the kallamullah to depend our self, do we already apply what did we know the command of Allah totaly in our life, ..??
sometime we cannot explain one thing using by word or speech...we people only see only the infront of their eyes, it can be a big problem... this jamaat was really humble and cjeerfull, their behave already shown what actually there is.. the problem of ummat today is they use the quranic version for depend their idea, lets think by ourself, do we are good enough to use the kallamullah to depend our self, do we already apply what did we know the command of Allah totaly in our life, ..??
You cant just talk about jihad all day and explain that it is the command of allah, yes it is the command of allah, but bring the whole of deen our lifes not hwat we what to do! honestly your wasting your time sat here on your computer screen if you were tht bothered you wouldt be here, so i advise stop having poitless debates because remember talk is cheap! Jazak allah for your time brother, and if ive seemed harsh please dont take it the wrong way, we are all muslims! deen is not just one thng
you wish to argue with everyone, bro your still sat in your confortable bed? stop arguing, allah knows what is haq! May Allah guide us to the straight path Ameen!!! THIS IS FOR EVERYONE, REMEMBER, MUSLIMS ARE NOT MURDERERS, the way you are debating about this issue is not befitting for the ummah! we are taking beats from left right and centre because we do not fulfill allahs commands and live the life on the prophet pbuh! simple
bro sutdy the 6 points and study the lives of sahabah and you will see they did these things before jihad, thier aims was not to kill non muslims but propergate deen, hidayah is in the hands of allah! i understand what you meen and i agree with you up to and extent, but the biggest jihad is not physical jihad! read salah, follow allah commands, jihad is one of allah commands but you can only do tht when your imaan is on a certain level, you do hajj when you have the means! likewise!
bro the biggest fight with nafs start when u think about to go jihad..thats is the real fight against nafs..because there is danger of life..& if we say we dont want to do jihad so how can we believ that we are following orders of Allah swt..This is the religion o fAllah swt not ours..
so follow as Allah order no as we think Allah swt orderus jihad..dont mess up things..fight with your nafs is always have to b do...
can you say that i read tasbih aur darood thts y i dont pray namz
@naserati means your are saying that namaz & niqab is only dean...bro try to understand dont follow your nafs..you must atleast full fill the requirement of rman & that is fundamentals of islam...
6 points are not is fundamental show me any hadeeth about it aur show me is sahaba did this...like tableeghis are doing..sahaba do jihad most of islamic countries are islamic because sahab conqurerd it..they don do tabligh like tableeghi jamat..
brother i do not have time for these debates as i said, MAY ALLAH GUIDE US TO THE STRAIGHT WAY! AMEEN! Allah knows what is haq, know one can say that they are 100 percent on deen! did the prophet pbuh not say enjoin good and forbid evil? if this effort of tableegh is a means of kids stopping drug dealing, women puttin niqabs on thier face, means on ppl reading slaah and coming in to islam? how can it be bad? do you think allah would give hidayah from somthing bad? no he would not!
There are many scholars(ulma) who written many books in which they write the the tableeghi jamat should avoid these thing
3rd bro u didnt answer all of my questions,tableghi's are only followig thier six points they are notfoollowing path of sahaba & rasool allah sal'waslm..They are fitting ahadeeth & ayat of jihad on tableegh & this thng is the most dangerous for muslim ummah..even in fazaile amal there are writen many events of jihad bt the tablighi's are fitting them on tableegh
@MsJustfun It should not be called 6 points, its the 6 qualtites which the prophet pbuh had and the sahabahs had, that is making an effort to follow the prophet pbuh and the sahabahs, like i said before did the sahabahs fight strait away? or did they wait a numerous amount of years until there imaan was set?bro ive said it ill say it again today we cant read salah is the confort of our masjids how we going to read it in forest with bullet flying towards ur heads? only if imaans in check
2nd my bro all of ulama of deoband fight against british or take bait al jihad so y tableeghi dont do this...
& Haji sahb is not an alim nor ahmed bhawalpuri..many ylama's said ahmed bhwalpuri is qadiyani...today this year i found an poaster on riwand in which they write an half ayat "infro khifafaon wa sikhala"...& put it on tabligh bt the thing is this ayat is on jihad the complete ayat is..."infron khifafaon wa sikhala wa jahadu b amwalikum wa anfusikum"
@naserati bro i know that i m with the deoband school of though..bt u wrong u said fight with nafs..form where u get this ..u there is only hadeeth & tht was zaeef...
& jiahd(qital)is also order of Allah & also ordained us & it is obligatory to every muslim to fiht kuffar atleast once..ther is hadeeth of muslim sharef who never fight against kuffar in his life & neither he prepaired his self he wil die as munafiq...jihad is obligatory on us like namaz roza it is not like darhi r other wajibat
@MsJustfun i know it is a da'ef hadith but what is it wrong for us to figh with our nafz? is that what your saying/ NO but its commen sense if we cant fight our selfs and wake up in the morning out of our soft beds, ibro face it we are spoilt we cant keep fast without complainin then how are we going to sleep in forest and wake up to read slah, how will we manage to live with day without foood, bro use your head also, your a man who has his right to his own opinion!
the reason the ummah is like this is because, we have left this deen, did the sahabahs fight straight away> NO they made effort on thier imaan first, you should look out for your self, your going to your own grave, then look our for your family, etc etc, this is all a matter of opinion we are not scholors so we should not debate on these situations let the scholors deal with that! jazak allah!
when the shria is establish in Afghanistan...they just want to live like sofi..they are arguing on the ayat of jihad which is more than 580.you knw when we arguing only one ayay we will become kafir & they are arguing more than 580 ayats.. i dont want to say them kafir ..but they should practice whole islam not half or what they like or wht they think this way is save for us..the islam is under war...they hav to do particpate...
@naserati bro who told u this is not orgnaiszzation..tabeeghi jamat is an organization who is under emerate of Haji Abdul Wahab...& the Qadiyani Prof Ahmed bhawalpori..y they are allowing qaniyanis beywwen them..why they dont foolow the ayats & ahadith of jihad..y they put ayat of jiahd on tableegh..bro the schoalr who is the founder of this wrote a book befor his death in which he write how tableeghi jamat now going onwrong way..bro if they are sinsare so y they dont accept & appriciate
@MsJustfun Bro its not an organisation, like you follow and look up to shiek uthman and zakir naik, thts how people in the effort of tableegh look at haji abdul wahab saab etc, bro we cant fight our nafs, we cant get out of our beds at fajr, we correct ourselves first and formost, look at the state of the ummah the reason the ummah is like this is because, we have deen, we dont follow Allah's commands, we dont live the life on the Prophet pbuh, fighting our selfs is more important!
No need to argue,about anything, you disagree with tableegh? well instead of arguing because thats whats happening simple Allah knows what is HAQ, so May Allah giude us to the true path!!! Ameen!!! you cant argue with a dua, salaam
Tabligh was the brain-child of the British colonialists to defuse Muslim uprising in India. They wanted these idiots to pray and not rise up against injustice. They will only say come to the Mosque. Did their organization have yet condemned Gaza bombing by the Israelis. Now CIA guides them
They are just obeying just they want...just likebani isrell..because in jihad u have a risk of your life thats why they dont want to do this..they also said do friendship with israel...
@MsJustfun Brother back up everysingle thing you just said!!! Muslims are muslims, every1 needs to stop these pointless arguments and debates, one you will find is that when muslims argue amongst them selfs we are laughed at, you have no right to describe muslims from this ummah as the bani israeel, bani israeel did not enjoin what is good and forbid what is evil, tableegh is not a sect, not an organisation, its not a gang its just a name given tableegh means to propergate!
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27. The wife of Mullah Jalaaluddin Rumi thought that his sexual desire had vanished. The Mullah came to know of her suspicion in a special trance of revelation (KASHF). That night he went to
the wife and drilled her 70 times. (Please excuse the language) So much so that she asked forgiveness. (Manaqib-il-Arifain, p.70, by Shamsuddin Akhlaqi) Mujaddith's of Deoband can go! See what garbage Mulla Ashraf Ali Thanwi is trying to unload. The same Thanwi whom other Mullahs call “Hakeem-ul-Ummat”!
TheTableeghisareliar 4 days ago
i couldnt understand their words properly...thay were interrupting each other & talking at each other & not to each other...jihad is a noble cause & so is dawah....so whats the problem....if they have some problems they should discuss in a noble way
saeem7 1 month ago
"It has been narrated on the authority of Abu Huraira that the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) said: One who died but did not fight in the way of Allah nor did he express any desire (or determination) for Jihad died the death of a hypocrite. "
[Sahih Muslim 2:4696]
TJamatEnemiesOfIslam 2 months ago
I do not call my muslim brothers and sisters to any group, I want all the Muslims to return to Quran and authentic Sunnah To Spread Tawheed,Oneness Of ALLAh...
whatever the Messenger has given you - take; and what he has forbidden you - refrain from. And fear Allah ; indeed, Allah is severe in penalty
Quran 59-7
TJamatEnemiesOfIslam 2 months ago
the little benagli brother is no experienced tablighi, he quotes the hadith of jihad al nafs which is something barelvis follow as fiqh not deobandis. half the hadith the big guy quotes are well known and his stance is probably agreed upon by people like maulana masood azhar etc.there is nothing in this video that negates the need for tablighi jamaat, &the deobandi madrasah women wear full niqaab so the fat guy is wrong there as well.they dont call to part of the deen.kafir call us extremists!!!
boxermaf 3 months ago
The white guy thinks that he is mister perfect and trying to cut off another muslim brother. People need to respect difference of opinion and support each other.
asfahaanmirza 3 months ago
people love Tableeghi jamat
msnabiha 5 months ago 4
Fuck the uploader of this video
msnabiha 5 months ago 2
@msnabiha lol i was thinking the same thing! what kind of debate is this, in the streets with a random jamaati! why dont they go to sheikh mumtaz ul haq or abdur raheem? no daleel, just 40 days he says but there is plenty of daleel for enjoining good and forbidding evil, and giving dawah. there is a video on the right by hanafi fiqh channel. these jahils going on about jihad and khilafah need to learn how to walk before they can leap! bare in ming tablighis are deobandis and so were the taliban!
boxermaf 3 months ago
The aqaid of the So called Tablighi Jamaat is the SAME as the DEOBANDI SCHOOL. KEEP THAT IN MIND everyone!
1MUSLIM1MISSION 5 months ago
Furthermore i do not see how this would benefit the Ummah!! or the general human being!!
1MUSLIM1MISSION 5 months ago
how can JIHAD be a weak hadith? It is in the Quran?? Jihad to struggle with ones desire to attain akhira is every muslims duty.. what has hadith got to do with it.. I did not understand this video at all. furthermore i do not see how this would benefit the Ummah!!
1MUSLIM1MISSION 5 months ago
When did islam become so difficullt to practice or understand?
1MUSLIM1MISSION 5 months ago
really confusing
1MUSLIM1MISSION 5 months ago
i dont consider both of them 2 be really on haqq! one is tablighi and second who calls always calls for jihad and khilafah while there are other things aswell!
asadbaloch1 5 months ago
The white dude is very harsh,is this the way to deliver a message to a Muslim?
mikey123444 6 months ago
I DONT UNDERSTANDING,,, why people here are doing PROPAGANDA against TABLIGHI JAMAAT...???? THEY R JUST DOING AMER BIL MARUF WANAHI ANIL MUNKAR.....
tajsalman 8 months ago 4
the white dude is so rude to him and thats not muslim like period, the way his speaking to him
Ibnhaque 8 months ago
This guy should sit down and drink hiz water.
sqaish 8 months ago
The guy who`s debating with the south asian man is 100% from hizb-ut-tahrir. I know it by the way he talks
Nidersen 11 months ago
sometime we cannot explain one thing using by word or speech...we people only see only the infront of their eyes, it can be a big problem... this jamaat was really humble and cheerfull, their behave already shown what actually there is.. the problem of ummat today is they use the quranic version for depend their idea, lets think by ourself, do we are good enough to use the kallamullah to depend our self, do we already apply what did we know the command of Allah totaly in our life, ..??
xsanish1 1 year ago
sometime we cannot explain one thing using by word or speech...we people only see only the infront of their eyes, it can be a big problem... this jamaat was really humble and cheerfull, their behave already shown what actually there is.. the problem of ummat today is they use the quranic version for depend their idea, lets think by ourself, do we are good enough to use the kallamullah to depend our self, do we already apply what did we know the command of Allah totaly in our life, ..??
xsanish1 1 year ago
sometime we cannot explain one thing using by word or speech...we people only see only the infront of their eyes, it can be a big problem... this jamaat was really humble and cjeerfull, their behave already shown what actually there is.. the problem of ummat today is they use the quranic version for depend their idea, lets think by ourself, do we are good enough to use the kallamullah to depend our self, do we already apply what did we know the command of Allah totaly in our life, ..??
xsanish1 1 year ago
You cant just talk about jihad all day and explain that it is the command of allah, yes it is the command of allah, but bring the whole of deen our lifes not hwat we what to do! honestly your wasting your time sat here on your computer screen if you were tht bothered you wouldt be here, so i advise stop having poitless debates because remember talk is cheap! Jazak allah for your time brother, and if ive seemed harsh please dont take it the wrong way, we are all muslims! deen is not just one thng
naserati 1 year ago
May Allah make it easy for our dying muslim brothers and sisters!!! Ameen
naserati 1 year ago
you wish to argue with everyone, bro your still sat in your confortable bed? stop arguing, allah knows what is haq! May Allah guide us to the straight path Ameen!!! THIS IS FOR EVERYONE, REMEMBER, MUSLIMS ARE NOT MURDERERS, the way you are debating about this issue is not befitting for the ummah! we are taking beats from left right and centre because we do not fulfill allahs commands and live the life on the prophet pbuh! simple
naserati 1 year ago
bro sutdy the 6 points and study the lives of sahabah and you will see they did these things before jihad, thier aims was not to kill non muslims but propergate deen, hidayah is in the hands of allah! i understand what you meen and i agree with you up to and extent, but the biggest jihad is not physical jihad! read salah, follow allah commands, jihad is one of allah commands but you can only do tht when your imaan is on a certain level, you do hajj when you have the means! likewise!
naserati 1 year ago
@naserati..
bro the biggest fight with nafs start when u think about to go jihad..thats is the real fight against nafs..because there is danger of life..& if we say we dont want to do jihad so how can we believ that we are following orders of Allah swt..This is the religion o fAllah swt not ours..
so follow as Allah order no as we think Allah swt orderus jihad..dont mess up things..fight with your nafs is always have to b do...
can you say that i read tasbih aur darood thts y i dont pray namz
MsJustfun 1 year ago
@naserati means your are saying that namaz & niqab is only dean...bro try to understand dont follow your nafs..you must atleast full fill the requirement of rman & that is fundamentals of islam...
6 points are not is fundamental show me any hadeeth about it aur show me is sahaba did this...like tableeghis are doing..sahaba do jihad most of islamic countries are islamic because sahab conqurerd it..they don do tabligh like tableeghi jamat..
& again u dint answer my questions...
MsJustfun 1 year ago
@MsJustfun brother read the kitaab muntakb ahaadith. Has loads oh hadith on the 6 points.
sqaish 8 months ago
brother i do not have time for these debates as i said, MAY ALLAH GUIDE US TO THE STRAIGHT WAY! AMEEN! Allah knows what is haq, know one can say that they are 100 percent on deen! did the prophet pbuh not say enjoin good and forbid evil? if this effort of tableegh is a means of kids stopping drug dealing, women puttin niqabs on thier face, means on ppl reading slaah and coming in to islam? how can it be bad? do you think allah would give hidayah from somthing bad? no he would not!
naserati 1 year ago
@naserati
use quranic verses ahadith or atleast the refrenc of aaima mujtahiddin..
donts ay your own words...
MsJustfun 1 year ago
@naserati
There are many scholars(ulma) who written many books in which they write the the tableeghi jamat should avoid these thing
3rd bro u didnt answer all of my questions,tableghi's are only followig thier six points they are notfoollowing path of sahaba & rasool allah sal'waslm..They are fitting ahadeeth & ayat of jihad on tableegh & this thng is the most dangerous for muslim ummah..even in fazaile amal there are writen many events of jihad bt the tablighi's are fitting them on tableegh
MsJustfun 1 year ago
@MsJustfun It should not be called 6 points, its the 6 qualtites which the prophet pbuh had and the sahabahs had, that is making an effort to follow the prophet pbuh and the sahabahs, like i said before did the sahabahs fight strait away? or did they wait a numerous amount of years until there imaan was set?bro ive said it ill say it again today we cant read salah is the confort of our masjids how we going to read it in forest with bullet flying towards ur heads? only if imaans in check
naserati 1 year ago
@naserati
2nd my bro all of ulama of deoband fight against british or take bait al jihad so y tableeghi dont do this...
& Haji sahb is not an alim nor ahmed bhawalpuri..many ylama's said ahmed bhwalpuri is qadiyani...today this year i found an poaster on riwand in which they write an half ayat "infro khifafaon wa sikhala"...& put it on tabligh bt the thing is this ayat is on jihad the complete ayat is..."infron khifafaon wa sikhala wa jahadu b amwalikum wa anfusikum"
MsJustfun 1 year ago
@naserati bro i know that i m with the deoband school of though..bt u wrong u said fight with nafs..form where u get this ..u there is only hadeeth & tht was zaeef...
& jiahd(qital)is also order of Allah & also ordained us & it is obligatory to every muslim to fiht kuffar atleast once..ther is hadeeth of muslim sharef who never fight against kuffar in his life & neither he prepaired his self he wil die as munafiq...jihad is obligatory on us like namaz roza it is not like darhi r other wajibat
MsJustfun 1 year ago
@MsJustfun i know it is a da'ef hadith but what is it wrong for us to figh with our nafz? is that what your saying/ NO but its commen sense if we cant fight our selfs and wake up in the morning out of our soft beds, ibro face it we are spoilt we cant keep fast without complainin then how are we going to sleep in forest and wake up to read slah, how will we manage to live with day without foood, bro use your head also, your a man who has his right to his own opinion!
naserati 1 year ago
and bro i dont know who told you tht tableegh is associated with qadiyanis that is a lie bro
naserati 1 year ago
the reason the ummah is like this is because, we have left this deen, did the sahabahs fight straight away> NO they made effort on thier imaan first, you should look out for your self, your going to your own grave, then look our for your family, etc etc, this is all a matter of opinion we are not scholors so we should not debate on these situations let the scholors deal with that! jazak allah!
naserati 1 year ago
when the shria is establish in Afghanistan...they just want to live like sofi..they are arguing on the ayat of jihad which is more than 580.you knw when we arguing only one ayay we will become kafir & they are arguing more than 580 ayats.. i dont want to say them kafir ..but they should practice whole islam not half or what they like or wht they think this way is save for us..the islam is under war...they hav to do particpate...
MsJustfun 1 year ago
@naserati bro who told u this is not orgnaiszzation..tabeeghi jamat is an organization who is under emerate of Haji Abdul Wahab...& the Qadiyani Prof Ahmed bhawalpori..y they are allowing qaniyanis beywwen them..why they dont foolow the ayats & ahadith of jihad..y they put ayat of jiahd on tableegh..bro the schoalr who is the founder of this wrote a book befor his death in which he write how tableeghi jamat now going onwrong way..bro if they are sinsare so y they dont accept & appriciate
MsJustfun 1 year ago
@MsJustfun Bro its not an organisation, like you follow and look up to shiek uthman and zakir naik, thts how people in the effort of tableegh look at haji abdul wahab saab etc, bro we cant fight our nafs, we cant get out of our beds at fajr, we correct ourselves first and formost, look at the state of the ummah the reason the ummah is like this is because, we have deen, we dont follow Allah's commands, we dont live the life on the Prophet pbuh, fighting our selfs is more important!
naserati 1 year ago
No need to argue,about anything, you disagree with tableegh? well instead of arguing because thats whats happening simple Allah knows what is HAQ, so May Allah giude us to the true path!!! Ameen!!! you cant argue with a dua, salaam
naserati 1 year ago
Tabligh was the brain-child of the British colonialists to defuse Muslim uprising in India. They wanted these idiots to pray and not rise up against injustice. They will only say come to the Mosque. Did their organization have yet condemned Gaza bombing by the Israelis. Now CIA guides them
TheTableeghisareliar 1 year ago
if its brainchild of british why should CIA guide them.you bladdy bugger.
zaman1985 1 year ago
if its brainchild of british why should CIA guide them.you bladdy bugger.
zaman1985 1 year ago
its fake vedio to spoil the image of tabliegh jamath.TJ dont promote jihad
zaman1985 1 year ago
@TheTableeghisareliar can i ask which scholars fought the british rulers?
sqaish 8 months ago
They are just obeying just they want...just likebani isrell..because in jihad u have a risk of your life thats why they dont want to do this..they also said do friendship with israel...
MsJustfun 1 year ago
@MsJustfun Brother back up everysingle thing you just said!!! Muslims are muslims, every1 needs to stop these pointless arguments and debates, one you will find is that when muslims argue amongst them selfs we are laughed at, you have no right to describe muslims from this ummah as the bani israeel, bani israeel did not enjoin what is good and forbid what is evil, tableegh is not a sect, not an organisation, its not a gang its just a name given tableegh means to propergate!
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@dakotagerman1 well its your funeral
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