John Piper - God Wasn't Caught Off Guard By Adam

[Crisis29]

@strumstickjoe

it all does sound ridiculous.....its hard to believe but can i ask you this question....

Do you believe me when i say all people are naturally evil, just by nature?

[StrumstickJoe]

It is hard to imagine a person speaking more trash than this guy speaks here!

But I'll bet he equals it elsewhere.

He believes that a cosmic Jewish zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him that you accept him as your master so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree.

Honestly!

And US citizens pay him for that!

[MinnieTyko]

@StrumstickJoe No one is forcing you to watch these videos. Why do you torture yourself?

[StrumstickJoe]

The talking snake story is actually an allegory about a guy being barred out of a temple. It was misplaced when the bible was cobbled together.

If you believe the bible, you have a serious problem.

This man Piper talks junk and gets paid for it.

Do not support him in his campaign to have the brutal immorality of the "holy" book accepted as truth. The koran is just as evil.

Live without them and live well.

Peace

[UrukEngineer]

If god really knew that Adam would fuck up, then he was a cruel wanker who planned the curse of mankind.

[MinnieTyko]

@UrukEngineer You do not know God.

[Mafia07407]

Type? God off guard? It was Adam's duty from the beginning- "multiply and subdue the earth". Adam was the first son of God. As the one who brought life first into the world and eventually brought death, he would be the one who would bring back life to the world in his sacrifice as Jesus

[Mafia07407]

I don't see why God would really HAVE any plans. Everyone has free will. He only has plans with you if you have plans with Him. It is a mutual relationship, a oneness. Adam became Jesus Christ, and undid the disobedience in the Garden. Which was what? Adam became sin for Eve because he loved her. Jesus became sin for the Church because he loves her.

[EZK37]

you have bad theology

be quick to listen and slow to speak. remember God gives grace to the humble.

[SAM135073]

please, just stop talking

[kaiz0099]

@Mafia07407 Jesus never fell into temptation as adam did. adam fell on his own accord, Jesus went as a lamb to the slaughter not fighting back the plan God seth forth for him ultimately redeeming us.

This pastor has some good words but his Gen 5 reference was bogus. Eve saw that the fruit was pleasing and for gaining knowledge and thus wanted to become like GOD upon eating it as the serpent tempted her by saying God doesnt want you to eat it b/c then you will be like him.

[kaiz0099]

@Mafia07407 she then ate if after confessing out of her own mouth to the devil saying for God did say do not eat of this fruit or you would surely die. When confronted adam blamed eve and eve blamed the devil. Jesus never blamed anyone for the actions against him he infact begged for their forgiveness for they did not know what they were doing. big difference here, dont look so simply into it without backing it up. Woe to those who dont speak according to these words. Isa 8:20

[kaiz0099]

@headachehealer your revealing to the public now. If you truly understood what your saying then you would choose those whom you were to give it too, just like Jesus only gave the SECRETS of heaven to his own disciples and not every one in the crowd.. Mark 4:34. When speaking amongst the crowd he spoke only parables to fulfill prophecy and hide GOD's word from the devils children.

[EZEKIEL3622]

the sovereignty of God, how sweet the truth, amen!

[flopsalor]

Oh man! I agree wholeheartedly. Wow!

[EZK37]

I wanted to be called ezekiel 3622 but I guess you got it first. I was wondering if I would run across you. I went with the valley of dry bones instead

grace and peace