Contrary to belief, the 'clubbing' of the seals is actually quick, less painful and is more humane then that of methods used to butcher cattle, pigs and even chickens in the assembly line. Something their ally, the vegetarian activists have actually confirmed. This should be kept in mind when discussing the controversy of the issue.
Whoa! Rex really hasn't done his homework! I am very disappointed with his view on the EU ban! I usually admired and respected his(Rex) view but I think he has been drinking too much of the 'Cool-Aid ' in Newfoundland and Labrador. Very disappointed,Rex!
ironiclly enough it was the EU who made the canadian seal hunt nessasary. After they, and other foreign countries, depleted our fish stocks. Sealing became a very important part of their income, seeing as there is not enough cod to make it worth fishing them.
He abosolutely missed the point. They are different from cows because of the METHOD they are killed/skinned. The problem people have is that they are being SKINNED ALIVE.
They are not being skinned alive. The twitching that is seen is a reflex: like getting tapped on the knee. Have you ever seen a chicken with its head cut off running around, or the tail of a lizard flopping around. The seal is dead, but the nerves continue to cause movement.
The meat industry BY FAR is the worst of the two. The reason people don't pay attention to it is because it is easier not to buy a fur coat then to stop eating meat.
The majority of seals are shot with high powered rifles (contrary to what PETA would have you believe).
Please enlighten us as to how that's worse than being hung upside down and having your throat slit until you bleed to death...that is the humane way in which we kill cattle, after all.
@videoaddict459 Yeah, cows only have their throat slit and are hung upside down till they bleed to death, seals are killed in 1-2 seconds, if even that. Cows are also killed out of the public eye in slaughter houses amoing reams of machinery, while seals are killed in the open amoing the ice, among men.
Image isnt an argument. I dont want to give out cliches, but "dont judge a book by its cover"
@olianalover Easy enough - stay away and tell your government to stop sending those dreadful tulip bulbs to Ottawa. I don't know what we ever did to deserve that annual plague, but I'm not that "up" on Dutch history either.
... I wonder if tulips could be labeled an invasive species.
@CoffinCornerX you hypocrite! Read your own posts if you want to see pure childishness! I can see it, others can see it, that when you get confronted with truth you always turn to childish insults & compressing the comments to those who oppose ! truth!
You make the most asinine arguments 223gunner. It's almost as if you make them just to take up space, which it seems people here have no tolerance for. What's pathetic about the flipper is how little of the edible biomass of the seal it construes. Debating with you is like trying to have an intelligent debate with a child. I'm not going to discus anything more with you. Figure it out for yourself.
223gunner. If you have a problem the the statistics, write to the Canadian Department of Fisheries and Oceans. That's who compiled them. I'm sure your pathetic little seal flipper lines were included in the numbers. Any other foods that may wind up being thrown away by ordinary diners certainly wasn't planned to wind up that way, unlike the seal slaughter where it is.
@CoffinCornerX you are contradicting yourself you say that its a pathetic seal flipper if "white people"enjoy it,but then in another post you say that its a delicacy for the Inuits. which is it? by the way how many Inuit do you know personally?
@CoffinCornerX So when you buy fish or meat do you also buy the bones,fat,cartilage to consume in any other way? No? you might say { well what doesn't make it to the store shelves goes to animal food maybe so its not wasted right? Well just think of all the animals or ocean life that benefits from a few seal remains! what comes from the sea eventually returns to the sea, in the wild nothing is wasted or the more famous anti slogan "left to rot on the ice"!
@CoffinCornerX just think about it? How much edible food is being thrown into the garbage pails or wasted in the span of one day around the world? whether its from homes,restaurants,other types of hunting, Just take a Butcher from a meat shop for example,When he cuts choice meat or even running it through the band saw the scraps & or shavings to be thrown away would far out weigh the amount of the weight of seal carcasses for the whole season.Now in a perfect world this would not be true.
@CoffinCornerX "just so you know "! 96%!oh snap out of it! just making up percentages now are you ! playing with numbers to fool the ignorant? the meat that is on the flippers is where the bulk of the meat is too, the meat on the carcass is deceiving as it is just a fine layer that covers the sinew and cartilage . but how would you know that ? its something that you just cant Google so easy! i guess thats why you feel so confident to exploit it! its best if you just drop that argument! : )
hahahahaha just so you all know! watch the voting here or wherever CoffinCornerx's posts are too! his goes up in the high +s & everyone that oppose him goes to low minuses in just a few hours. pretty convenient for him id say & very childlike. maybe he is just a little bit "special"!
223gunner. As the Inuit would be the first to tell you, everything part of a seal is edible. Just watch the video "Anthony Bourdain in Quebec". Here on YT. Even the blood is saved and used for stews. As is so often demonstrated by the wasteful sealers, this somehow doesn't seem to factor into their equation of edible since the iceflowes are regularly painted red with the blood of baby seals. Shows you how sick in the head they are. Bones are even edible. Look up the ingredients of jello.
While I still don't approve of the suffering, If the natives seal hunt, they can only take so little I'm betting
But a fishing corporation or group that's doing it for monetary gain will not care what their quota is, indeed it will be unreasonably high. It will not be just for food or cultural/traditional signifigance, it will be for fucking money
Just so you know 101101777, The indigenous peoples of Canada hunt primarily adult ringed seals, and yes, it's done for food and utility. 100% of the seal is used. Not one Inuit ("Eskimo") holds a license to participate in the commercial slaughter. There's your "endorsement" of the hunt, or rather lack thereof. The Canadian commercial seal hunt makes the animal slaughters in the coliseum appear frugal. At least the animal meats were used to feed the slaves of Rome not 96% wasted like here.
The money plus the meat from the seal hunt feeds families here on the east coast too ! When we head back to our ports there are line ups of people just for the flippers & or carcasses But some how you conveniently left that out of the equation! You see you have no idea of what rural life is all about!
@101101101777 Your ignorance is so appalling that I am staggered. The people who killed some seals have trod far lighter on the ground ( for 500 years I might add !) than you ciity dwellers have.. Please! What is the harm to the enviroment of your car??? Think! Is a sustainable harvest of seals somehow better than your Egg Mac Muffin?
1. It's Newfoundland. You can be sure there are no corporations taking millions of seals.
2. It's Fisherman off the isles mostly, so its not like there are 100,000 people jumping on the floes with gaffs. It is a cultural tradition, as we've been doing it for well over 100 years. (See seal hunt disaster of the early 1900's)
3. Many people DO eat seal, as a cultural tradition. Ever heard of Flipper Pie?
4. and for the most part, there is no more suffering than a shot to the head.
@TheRimDoctor and you would know the suffering now of being shot in the head? What if it didn't kill you right away? Also, I don't care about traditions anymore. If some creature has to suffer or die then I don't give a goddamn shit about tradition
@101101101777 so is shooting a cow in the head any more horrible lets face it you don't like the seal hunt because you think seals are cute thats the only reason.
@viper10011 No that's not the only reason. I believe in all creatures co-existing. I have vision. It's not about which one's are cuter. Folks of this mindset always do this, they always think it has to do with the cute ones.
Would you not harm a baby human simply because they're cute?
@101101101777 7) I would not harm a baby human because it's my own dam species however liberals seem to believe that killing a human being 2 weeks before it's born is moraly exceptable and since you sound liberal maby you should think about that.
@viper10011 well ya the baby is your own species but also because you recognize that that creature, like others, has their own set of god given inalienable rights. What should I think about? What was your point? And of course I wouldn't think that acceptable. I don't live in the US in case you do so don't automatically label me with stupid idealogical themes or political party names, plz.
With 1.2 billion Chickens being slaughtered every year, and hundreds of millions of cattle, Ever have a turkey on thanksgiving? Your cultural tradition kills millions of turkeys per year. Go stop poaching in Africa, stop polar bear hunting in Russia, Stop whaling in Japan, or if you really care about giving a fuck about exploiting of animals, why not start attacking Australia for their wool industry? All these hunts are much larger than the Newfoundland Seal hunt has ever been.
in continuation, As opposed to popular belief held by biased megastars and Greenpeace, we don't club seals, we use rifles. We don't hunt pups, we dont skin them alive and we dont scatter their carcasses everywhere like neanderthaals. We hunt seals like we hunt moose, except Seals are a lot less likely to get hit by a car.
@101101101777 I do enjoy how your comment is only filled with "What I think" and "I'm betting" while adding some more of your thoughts asserting it to be true.
I'll be glad to hear you give any sources for your claims of "taking so little" and any sort of prove that the quota is too high for the population.
@ Ersabette. St. Augustine of Hippo made similar observations to yours. In some ancient cultures burning the dead was considered immoral. Yet, the Vikings considered it honorable. What St. Augustine did conclude was there were certain morals that were held to be universal such killing and waste. He posthumously argued against the killing and waste of all life in Rome's coliseums. As pointless as the seal hunt is, parallels can easily be drawn to it and the coliseums. Don't make me start.
Ersabette. You say seals are "overpopulated". Got any peer reviewed study or report that backs your opinion? 101101101777. Be careful with Ersabette, she's always dumping unsupported pop-opinion out in these comments. Ersabette, do harp seal populations threaten any fish species? Ersabette may wrongly argue that seals threaten ocean ecology, yet she never argues against the biggest threat to it, human fishermen. Her neighbors. Ersabettes false concerns completely undermine her credibility.
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For those of you who keep referring to 'babies' and 'pups'; will you get your fact straight? The killing of the pups or 'white coats', the ones that the celebrities love to hug (and subsequently drive its mother away), has been outlawed for 20+ years.
But its just another tactic to pull at the heart strings of the public.
Nuvik - You are only partially right. You're wrong on the important part. The seal hunt DOES still target baby seals. The CVMA, EFSA and DFO agree that harp seals in Canada are hunted starting at age 12 days old when they have molted their white coats. 95% of all seals killed in 2007 were under the age of 3.5 months old. The EFSA and even the DFO label these seals as NEONATAL. Babies. "Whitecoat" is not exclusive to "baby seal". The period that they are babies continues well beyond that time
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Well done Rex. I become livid when these EU suits, ugly Botox cratered Hollywood starlets/PETA wing-nuts tell the Inuit how they can and cannot live their lives. I would love to see Pam Anderson dropped off on King William Island (The burial ground of most of Franklin's men) in December and live on only vegetation. That's reality TV I would watch!
Shame on the PM for not standing up for the people of the north - the hardiest people on the planet who are a source of pride and not disgrace.
Yeah sorry. The people of the EU and the EU ban don't prevent the Inuit from hunting, eating or wearing seals. The people of the EU are not telling the Inuit how to live their lives they are simply deciding how they will live theirs. Simple capitalism at work.
Now an internal memo in Canadian governance has said dog and cat fur from China should NOT be banned from import into Canada, because Canada wants the European Union to lift it's ban on seal products, so to say no to dog/cat fur imports would make them look like hypocrites instead of animal slaughter profiteers.
They make it out like it's a tradition for Native Inuit, but all I ever see is white guys in fishing vessels, who sell the pups once gorgeous bodies for export cash.
I know that it's native tradition, but I mean seal hunting as a commercial industry. Natives would be exempt from a commercial seal hunting ban anyway, so they don't even come into the equation. That only leaves you with the commercial export profit driven fur trade, that apparently wouldn't financially survive without subsidies anyways. At least the natives don't disrespecxtfully leave a bloody skinned baby body on the ice to rot (i hope)
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the Netherlands, Germany and Belgium trapping at least 1 million between them each year. As most animals are trapped as pests, one should expect any debate about the welfare of trapped animals to focus on pest control, and yet animal rights groups have largely chosen to ignore this aspect. & these "pests" are carted off to landfills,none are utilized .
@harpsealer - You seem to forget the utter devistation "pests" reaped upon Europe in the 1400's. The Bubonic Plague, facilitated by the proliferation of flea carrying pests, whipped out 1/3 of Europe's popultion. An ounce of prevention is worth pound of cure. Harp Seals were studied by the CDC and were not found to have any existing or immerging health threats to human populations. Try another lame argument.
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coffincornerx -You seem to forget things or is this all lies to make yourself seem informed? you say"Harp seals were studied by the CDC and were not found to have any existing or immerging health threats to human populations."but on another video post "The Canadian Press - Canada Seal Hunt - response to EU ban" you mention "don't run the risk of getting trichinosis since seals carry it "make up your mind and stop making up lies
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@CoffinCornerX - hey dope, you say that its wrong to kill seals for fur, well what about the countless number of mink,marten,wolf,fox,lynx,beaver,muskrat,plus many more fur bearers are primarily raised for their fur alone! but thats some thing thats far from your mind now is it! this is the human way of life that is widely accepted other than the small minority of the opposing side!
Rex forgot to mention how disgusting most ordinary people find it.
A happy living animal is more valuable than all the money and trade politics.
If you need to eat to survive, give them respect before you eat, rather than killing their young, running across the ice waving a giant metal cluib like some mad man
so you're saying that it's relevant that they kill seals with a giant metal club as opposed to a gun? you're an idiot. A happy living animal is more valuable than all the money and trade politics? Right, ok.
Don't use anything, club or gun. If you have to kill for food then at least use nothing but your bare hands. Be a real man. A living happy animal IS important, LIFE is important more than politics or money or even what ignorant rubbish you have to say.
If you take away the right of happiness for an animal than what right to happiness do you retain. Humans are animals, and some humans want to take away your right to the pursuit of happiness.
Then perhaps you don't see anything wrong with killing people aswell? As a race we do so much of that. Human babies, seal pups, not much difference to you maybe?
Put aside the speciesist inequality superiority complex many people seem to have and really ask, what difference is it between killing animal or human-animal? Even as humans are different why is it an excuse to kill other forms of life? We know now enough about plants and synthetic materials we don't need animal products, and the human body is best served by plant-based diets.
@101101101777 if you believe that synthetic is a healthier choice then you yourself do not know enough of synthetic materials and its negative effects on not only the body but the planet as well.
yet at least with sythetic clothing we can work on reducing harful manufacturing exposure and re--using and recycling them and not just throwing them out. I don't approve of all synthetics tho, like many clothes made out of fleece, it's just plastic garbage that makes static. Yet at least with synthetics if we all reused them noone would have to rely on killing animals, and possibly unsustainable killings happening right now
@101101101777 we have a safe alternative to synthetics right now, I do not want to wait while we work on making it safer. The chemicals that are used before and after processing our every day clothing can and are linked to such diseases as cancer. If you mean the harp seal hunt is unsustainable you would be incorrect. The harp seal is currently over populated with a recent population survey putting them at over 7 million now. Their over population is making their ecosystem unsustainable.
I think we upset certain ecological balances by killing, and through exploitation and damage to bio-diversity we might have affected populations. But then humans come in again and claim it's up to them to "fix" populations with more killing, compounding the problem further rather than leaving animal systems alone.
Who says that 7 million seal is unfit for their habitat? Noone listens to honest ecologists anyways.
@101101101777 An honest ecologist is one that agrees with your point of view then? Seals are already showing signs that they are overpopulated by a change in their behaviour ie; coming closer to land looking for food. We as humans are a predatory species. We can not live in this world without affecting it so yes, it is up to us to take responsibility for ourselves. Denying our role and responsibilites will upset nature.
Whether or not or killing them is sustainable or not is secondary. I stand against it first because I've decided it is morally wrong (as with other animal/human slayings) and cause it's a better use of my time than virtually shooting people or watching tv as so many do.
Also, we really really need to stop making Flame Retardant chemicals into things, it is a huge chemical problem
@101101101777 standing against something because you decided it is morally wrong is irresponsible. Morals vary from person to peron and do not necessarily look at an important issue rationally.
I personally think they just did it to shut the activists up so they could go through their election without the nonsense.
Several delegates were being harassed and threatened over this issue so I wouldn't be surprised they allowed it to passed knowing quite well that it would die at the WTO.
After all, they came to a conclusion that their commissioned report didn't come to and didn't even consider giving Canada a chance to comply to the report's recommendations. The WTO wont like that.
Oh I see, Pride. Like the kind of pride that possesses someone who defends the seal hunt? It makes virtually no money for those who participate in it and comprises less than one half of one percent of the NL GDP. Seal fur demand is at an all time low, and less than 4% of the edible biomass generated by the hunt is ever sold as meat. The only people defending the hunt could only do it based off of pride or raising money under the false guise of job creation as a politician.
The three time suspended troll's first account was suspended in July 2009 and he has been accusing me of being involved in a flagging campaign since.
Yet when I deny being involved in anything, instead of providing proof he simply uses his puppet accounts to make my denial inaccessible to the dimwits that subscribe to his bull shit and don't know they can view my posts using the options or reply button.
The three time suspended troll appears to believe that Youtube is easily convinced to suspend any video on the subject matter.
Yet this video remains and has not resulted in any suspension, nor have the many hundreds of other pro and con videos on the subject matter that are still online, from both partnered and non-partnered users.
I've never claimed to be a pro-sealing advocate and the sealing videos I've added to my favorites say pretty much everything I would have said in my videos.
Careful with the half true lies canucktunes spins. He and his cronies have been involved with false flagging campaigns ever since he realized seal hunt videos were on Youtube. That's HOW seal hunt opponents channels get suspended. Any reason why canucktunes is such an outspoken seal hunt advocate yet has not one pro-seal hunt video? Of course. He's afraid of retaliation and a false flagging campaign suspending his own channel.
Part 2 - This year it will be even less, because pelts of three to four week old beaters that make up 95% of the catch are selling for between $6 and $33. This $6-million costs Canadians at least 10 times as much and does so year after year. Just to begin, 10 icebreakers working for up to 7 days and an additional $10 million minimum cost to appeal the EU ban will drive the seal hunt the farthest into tax payer subsidized debt than ever before.
Part 1 - Last year, according to its Web site, this entire economic opportunity amounted to $12-million, the value of all seal pelts landed. They fetched on average $52 a pelt. According to evidence given to Parliaments standing committee on fisheries and oceans on Nov. 6, 2006, half of that is eaten up by expenses, so we are talking, at most, $6-million that flowed to the sealers themselves: one-tenth of 1% of Newfoundlands GDP.
@babajii321 - Definitely. They`re acting like seals are being wiped out whenever they claim a million of them are being killed every four years yet in reality 1.4 million harp seals are born every year.
The IUCN Red List website entry confirms this, along with the fact that their numbers are increasing, from 8 million worldwide.
These people complain about how young the seals are when they`re killed yet don`t care about the billions of 48h old male baby chicks killed every year in the states.
Not only that, canuck, they also consume fish by the gazillion, depleting stocks and thus threatening livelihoods of people who live in that area. Seal hunters are merely playing their part in balancing nature.
However, if seals were as ugly as spiders, nobody would give a damn.
Speaking of which, I wonder which pampered, publicity seeking fog headed celeb will venture up there next.....
babjii321 - By in large pets, like yours are the most responsible for the depleting of fish from the ocean. In fact most fish that are taken from our oceans wind up as pet food. If you're so damned worried about our oceans populations why don't you put your pet down?
I find your remark about most fish ending up as dogfood somewhat dubious, InuitVoice. However, you missed the point entirely. I'm merely placing the lives and livelihoods of people above animals.
And where in hell did you get the idea I owned a pet? I don't.
I don't think they would score anyone as big as Madonna and I doubt it's Beyoncé's style. I'm guessing the HSUS will try to get Carrie Underwood out there, out of desperation.
Perhaps PETA will try to get Pink on the ice flow but I don't think that would happen. I like Pink but I don't see her freezing her ass off for "the cause" either.
I hear Pamela Anderson is an ambassador now, aided by Kelly Osborne and celeb blogger Perez Hilton. Heavy artillery, that. Could be trouble. As long as we're on the subject, did you see Danny Williams kick Sir Paul McCartney's ass on Larry King a year or two back? I've been searching the Tube for it, but no luck thus far.
Yeah, I saw that interview and I thought it was rather sad. I like Paul's music but he had been played.
Pam Anderson has been in it for several years and nobody takes her seriously. She was booed at the Juno Awards for her pathetic Seal joke and hasn't been able to justify her stance against animal testing because as a Hep C sufferer she uses medication derived from animal testing.
I just watched Kelly's and Paris' "Save The Seals" interviews and it's all the same old bull sh*t.
Paris wants people to wear fake fur, regardless of the fact that most of it is derived from oil. And Kelly thinks seals are being killed in front of their mothers, when in reality these mothers leave their pups at less than two weeks of age, several days or weeks before they are hunted.
I don't think we should spend any more time commenting on this thread, Canuck. It appears the person(s) who uploaded this one have a thing against freedom of expression. (Thumbs down, marked as spam etc etc....) Looks like those of us on the yea side are none too welcome.
It's enough to make one wonder if he/she belongs to one of those "human rights" comissions....
You can ask your buddy all about censorship. It's really too bad he and other seal hunt supporters can't handle the truth being told. The original and continuing harbingers of censorship are hunt supporters. This comment section and others are just the fruition of your buddy's lack of foresight. Too bad really when Youtube applications can be used as weapons of censorship.
If that's the case, coffin, why is it only supporters who are having their comments surpressed?
And in the time it took me to write this, more people have been slaughtered in some godforsaken part of this planet than during an entire seal hunt season.
babajii321 - You seem to discount the scale of the action being called for. Injustice against humans is in many cases worthy of invasion from foreign powers (eg. WWII). Nobody is calling for the invasion of Canada over a few seals. Europe never declared war on Canada. Nevertheless, there seemed to be enough mandate within the EU and USA to effect a bans.
babajii321 - It may be seal hunt supporters comments that get suppressed in some comment sections, but it's seal hunt opponents videos that are taken down for showing the very activity they seek to end. It's called "false flagging". No one is offended by the video but those who seek to "suppress" the images of the hunt. They aren't offended by the images, they are offended that others are seeing them.
It's always the same routine. He flags and down rates the hell out of the comments using puppet accounts and then tries to claim the seal hunt supporters did it to him.
Well, I did not flag any of the videos on his main account and Youtube obviously didn't buy his arguments to reinstate them.
Furthermore, he had been suspended twice after that, including for harassment of yours truly. He actually openly threatened to ruin my reputation with Youtube and impersonated me to try to do it.
You'll notice that even when you block him that he'll bypass your filter by replying to your comments on other people's videos.
I had blocked him quickly but he kept on sending me his bull shit comments, most of which accused me of being something or another, for months, even when I had decided to delete them unread.
Normal trolls would have been bored after awhile and would have f*cked off. But he's a sanctimonious bigot with a "cause".
He apparently hasn't understood that his little games reduces his credibility, not mine. But then he's been suspended three times for his behavior and still came back, in violation of the TOS, so he has no credibility at all.
These are the desperate acts of a coward and manipulator. And perhaps you should inform Youtube that someone is flagging all of your comments as spam.
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pigs, cows, chickens, these animals need your attenion beacuse it is sick what is done to these animals who live in a cage not even big enough turn around in. Seals are wild and breed in huge numbers damaging fishing which is the only thing keeping eastern/northern canada alive still, i don't agree with fishermen who shoot just to kill leaveing them on-shore to rot (i've seen it happen all too offten) but with a licence and a quota givein these people have a right to earn a liveing
1. lokiflash. You bring up 3 arguments I'll take them one at a time. No one is here defending factory farming. Still, baby cows and baby pigs are not slaughtered for their hides alone and their bodies strew out over the fields of Iowa and Texas. An analysis of 2006 DFO statistics shows that 4% of the edible biomass generated by the seal hunt is eventually sold as "meat". This seal slaughter is in no way comparable to a subsistence industry.
2. In a peer reviewed study published in 1998, it was confirmed that seals primarily eat squid and skates. Dog food fish. It was shown that only 5% of the contents of a harp seals stomach was cod. The DFO has even published on their own seal hunt myths page that, "Several factors have contributed to the lack of recovery of the North Atlantic Cod, such as fishing efforts, poor growth and physical condition of the fish and environmental changes." Seals are not mentioned.
3. Everyone has a right to earn a living. It's just a question on what moral grounds they do it on. What do you think about the man trafficking his daughter to make a living? Or what about a youth selling marijuana to his friends? Hey, "it's a living". You might say, "Well you're comparing legal to illegal activities." In China it's completely legal to execute someone who speaks up about their occupation of Tibet. Does that make the execution right? Not everything that's legal, is right.
@lokiflash You'll notice that the three time suspended troll fails to mention that he is himself responsible for propaganda videos meant to keep people from eating seal meat.
A study published in Environmental Health on June 2nd, 2008 has determined that these has been a 32% drop in the blood concentration of mercury in the Inuit from 1992 to 2004. 55% when it comes to lead.
Cadmium remains but tobacco use is to blame according to the study.
Apparently the three time suspended troll thinks everyone pulls "facts" out of their ass like he does.
Everyone can search for the words "IFAW Technical Briefing 2009-1" or the filename asset_upload_file935_53312.pdf to access it on IFAW's own site.
But of course the three time suspended troll will yet again abuse the comment ratings with his puppet accounts in order to keep this information from the less intelligent people he's trying to reach with his propaganda and idiotic redefinitions.
canucktunes, you're such a fraud. Strangely that detail is somehow missing from the wikipedia article. Anyone can post that smut in the Michael Adams wikipedia article, including you. Here's the problem though. You better have proof. If not, it's coming out within 24 hours by those people intelligent enough to be writing that wikipedia article. Add it. We're watching. You better have a reliable source, which you don't. Never miss a chance to spam a video do you canucktunes,
The three time suspended troll does love his IFAW funded Environics polls, doesn't he ?
Apparently he thinks all Canadians should subscribe to the wims of the two thousand or so people Environics polls every few months with their leading questions.
That's right. Their questions include selective statement meant to sway the respondents.
For example in the previous 2009 poll the respondents were told that a million seals had been killed in the past four years... (cont)
(cont) ...But no information in regards to the population and birth rate of these seals were given according to IFAW Technical Briefing 2009-01 And worse still they included a statement that implied that seals under two weeks were being hunted in the commercial hunt.
So basically they contacted people and force fed them IFAW's cliff notes in the hopes to pull an ad populum.
If Canadians were against the hunt, S-229 would have been seconded and the green party would have had a seat in Ottawa.
According to a public opinion poll conducted by Environics Research in September 2009, 73% of Canadians say the EU should be able to restrict trade in seal products, if it chooses to. Environics is one of Canada's leading marketing and social survey research consultancies with a reputation for integrity, accuracy and insight. Co-founded in 1970 by Michael Adams, the firm has evolved into a multi-disciplined international research and consulting group.
I have no problem with one arguing against the seal hunt. You however promote hate toward Newfoundlanders. This I find despicable. One can't have a civil debate with a nazi sympathizer. You will ALWAYS remember me. I am in your head. I guess you have to direct your hate at someone, and you found one. I hope there is Karma in this world and it bites you for the hate you spread all over the web. I really hope misfortune finds you. When it does, whenever, remember me , I'll be laughing, and glad.
Dude you were making up excuses,.Like the "only obeying orders crap" Its clear to anyone. You are an apologist for Nazis.
The seal hunt. You have no video of Inuit supporting your argument. You blame Newfoundlanders. No surprise using a scapegoat as you are a Nazi sympathizer. The Inuit Leader Mary Simon places the blame on people like you, not NLers. Finally there is no point arguing with you...you are a hater and a Nazi sympathizer and you know it.
Just like my opposition to the commercial seal slaughter, my arguing against those who deny the holocaust is honorable. I have no shame in that. You can contact whom ever you want. I've been called gay, I've been called pedophile I've been called every name under the sun by those who can't win the battle of facts regarding the seal hunt to stop me from posting . By doing so, you just announced to anyone reading this debate you have lost....a long time ago. You lost before you even started.
Oh and some other groups...not youtube have the info. They were made aware of it a while ago. Sick Nazi bastard. I hope one of my grandfathers or great uncles took out your Nazi relatives or wounded them.
Sick mind? You do your best to make excuses for your Nazi relatives and for their participation in the Holocaust in the comments section for the video Trip to Dachau.....you sick Nazi sympathizer. I expect you'll remove those posts won't you.
3 million kangaroo's on average have been culled each year for the last 10 years in Australia. Leaving anywhere from 150,000 to 315 000 joeys to die from starvation or predation. Last years seal hunt saw 70,000 animals culled. Are numbers what is important to animal rights activists. Funny how this activity is not on their radar. Those kangaroos will be clubbed, mangled or shot. Must be no money in protesting the kangaroo cull for activists.
"Distraction argument". And there's just as strong a movement to have that end as well. Have you searched "Kangaroo slaughter" here on Youtube. Beelbelbrox100's point is the following; if my neighbor sins then it's okay for me to sin too. If that were the way the world really worked we would quickly descend into anarchy and civil unrest. Just like a typical seal hunter, you Beelbelbrox100 have a sick mind. Can I now go out and rob a store because my neighbor beats his wife? Nooooo.
InuitVoice is not Inuit. National Inuit leader Mary Simon in her video Inuit on Sealing clearly places the blame for the demise of the INUIT commercial seal hunt on Animal rights activists, through their lobbying and misinformation. Some posters who have no knowledge of the fact that Inuit do gain a livelihood from the commercial hunt of seals refuse to take ownership of the fact they killed an Inuit livelihood. Mary Simon doesn't blame white people like a certain American poster does.
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The chicken you bought at a supermarket reached the kill floor at 4 weeks of age. Hundreds of millions of chickens will be killed every year in North America. Guaranteed, not everyone of them received a death with the optimum amount of "humanity". Nor are they raised "humanely" However the idea of anthropomorphism is not extended to these animals as they are to seal pups. Why?, because everyone eats chicken. animal rights people know that fight is a lost cause.
Gee MrPablo105. You make some of the best arguments against the seal hunt than even I do. That's right, only 4% of the edible biomass generated by the seal hunt is eventually sold as "meat". An analysis of DFO statistics shows that. And whereas a chicken will live to be 7 years old and is sexually mature already at 4 weeks, a harp seal only reaches sexual maturity at 5 years and is expected to live 30-40 years.
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Furthermore, I'm not a sealer, I've never met a sealer,I've never killed an animal in my life. What truly pisses me off is someone like you who knows nothing about life in the northern part of Canada. I actually think you've got some personal issues to deal with. Why not fight for an animal that is truly in danger of extinction. Why not go and save a few stray cats and dogs. I took home a kitten 2 months ago. After several hundreds of dollars in vet bills the cat can look forward to a nice life
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Dude, all you've been doing is using multiple accounts to hide comments to which you have no rebuttal. I've spanked your butt soooo many times.I've posted sooo many comments that you were unable to counter.
You've been suspended 3 time. For spamming and for posting video that you had no permission to post.
Your last attempt to have me suspended didn't work.
Obviously suspension doesn't work. If it did you wouldn't be here.
What's more Inuit, Mr. Pablo is now violating the TOS by spamming this video with multiple comments simply to move unfavorable comments that work against him off the front page. Reported again.
MrPablo109. Typical of seal hunt supporters first you lose when arguing facts, then you lose when using hate speech so now you want to change the rules of the game? It's clear you simply cannot handle the fact that you hold a very unpopular opinion. Turning off the comment rating feature on this video would simply inhibit those who wish to express their opinions. Keep the feature enabled CBC.
Anyone can watch my newest video to review the very document that exposes the Canadian government in their attempt to, in their own words, "Play the Inuit Card". Watch the video "Inuit vs. Commercial Seal Hunt - Appendix i" and see the document itself. Why would the white commercial seal hunt need the help of the Inuit if it were a humane seal hunt to begin with.
Additionally, in 1985 the Canadian government was originally exposed playing the Inuit card when, in their report, "Defense of the Fur Trade" they said, "Defense of Aboriginal cultures could be a good counter balance to the anti-fur/anti-trapping campaigns."
CBC should get rid of the rating feature as a 40 year old child who knows nothing of northern life abuses the rating feature because he has no rebuttal. His rebuttals are juvenile at best
CBC should lose the rating feature as a 40 year old child who knows nothing of northern life, uses all his accounts to rate negatively comments to which he has no answer.
the 40 year old child who uses his many accounts to give negative ratings to hide comments to which he has no rebuttal should do something worthwhile for himself like learn Spanish.
CBC should get rid of the rating feature. There is a 40 year old child who trolls this site and uses all his accounts to hide comments to which he has no answer.
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HAHA, What a complete loser CoffinX is. Anyway people, read canuktunes last post. Everyone knows PETA, HSUS are a bunch of disingenuous scumbags. HSUS pulled a wounded seal out of the water after it tried to escape, & filmed it for 40 minutes for propaganda purposes.
See Mary Simon's video Inuit on Sealing. She places the blame squarely on the shoulders of the Anti Sealing Lobby and their coward;y supporters like this soutwestern american CoffinX
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It is quite apparent by the troll's quotes that these groups don't recognize the Inuit fur trade at all.
They've had ample time to separate the Inuit fur trade from the commercial hunt in the Gulf of St. Laurence, allowing for exemptions for the Inuit to sell their furs to everyone. But they haven't because they're against all fur trades.
"Of course, IFAW, like many organizations and nations opposed to the Canadian commercial seal hunt is not opposed to seal hunting by Aboriginal peoples for cultural and traditional purposes." - IFAW
"Subsistence seal hunts are not the target of the The Humane Society of the United States' 'Protect the Seals" campaign. Our campaign is not aimed at ending Aboriginal hunts" - HSUS
While certain indigenous groups must eat meat and wear animal skin to survive, it is rare to find cultures or individuals who have no choice but to kill. Still PETA has no quarrel with subsistence hunters and fishers who truly have no other options." - Peta
Contrary to belief, the 'clubbing' of the seals is actually quick, less painful and is more humane then that of methods used to butcher cattle, pigs and even chickens in the assembly line. Something their ally, the vegetarian activists have actually confirmed. This should be kept in mind when discussing the controversy of the issue.
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viper10011 11 months ago
As long as the seal hunt is manages sustainably, why should it matter if they're being hunted for their meat and hides?
norcofreerider604 1 year ago
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Say that to the clueless megastars who keep this tired arguement going.
And I do mean clueless.
TheRimDoctor 1 year ago
Whoa! Rex really hasn't done his homework! I am very disappointed with his view on the EU ban! I usually admired and respected his(Rex) view but I think he has been drinking too much of the 'Cool-Aid ' in Newfoundland and Labrador. Very disappointed,Rex!
SnowPatrolR 1 year ago
@SnowPatrolR What exactly hasn't Rex looked into and what about his view on the EU ban are you disappointed in?
Ersabette 1 year ago
ironiclly enough it was the EU who made the canadian seal hunt nessasary. After they, and other foreign countries, depleted our fish stocks. Sealing became a very important part of their income, seeing as there is not enough cod to make it worth fishing them.
scotianovable 1 year ago
He abosolutely missed the point. They are different from cows because of the METHOD they are killed/skinned. The problem people have is that they are being SKINNED ALIVE.
videoaddict459 1 year ago
They are not being skinned alive. The twitching that is seen is a reflex: like getting tapped on the knee. Have you ever seen a chicken with its head cut off running around, or the tail of a lizard flopping around. The seal is dead, but the nerves continue to cause movement.
The meat industry BY FAR is the worst of the two. The reason people don't pay attention to it is because it is easier not to buy a fur coat then to stop eating meat.
EeyoreWhyBother 1 year ago
The majority of seals are shot with high powered rifles (contrary to what PETA would have you believe).
Please enlighten us as to how that's worse than being hung upside down and having your throat slit until you bleed to death...that is the humane way in which we kill cattle, after all.
Rheostatik 1 year ago
@videoaddict459 Yeah, cows only have their throat slit and are hung upside down till they bleed to death, seals are killed in 1-2 seconds, if even that. Cows are also killed out of the public eye in slaughter houses amoing reams of machinery, while seals are killed in the open amoing the ice, among men.
Image isnt an argument. I dont want to give out cliches, but "dont judge a book by its cover"
Proudnewfoundlander1 1 year ago 3
Rex murphy is a fu#king douchbag....that twat should shut his mouth and go read a book....dipstick!
OriginalKamil 1 year ago
f*uck Canada
hate the country because of this
olianalover 1 year ago
Canada saved the Netherlands from the Nazi, so say "thank you" and shut up.
Still love the Netherlands.
EeyoreWhyBother 1 year ago
@olianalover Easy enough - stay away and tell your government to stop sending those dreadful tulip bulbs to Ottawa. I don't know what we ever did to deserve that annual plague, but I'm not that "up" on Dutch history either.
... I wonder if tulips could be labeled an invasive species.
ScooterMcBean 1 year ago
Rex nails the issue once again
Balian49 1 year ago
People really don't know what they are talking about when they are bashing on seals hunt.
trpirate 1 year ago
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GO REX
Redfox161616 2 years ago
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@CoffinCornerX you hypocrite! Read your own posts if you want to see pure childishness! I can see it, others can see it, that when you get confronted with truth you always turn to childish insults & compressing the comments to those who oppose ! truth!
223gunner 2 years ago
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You make the most asinine arguments 223gunner. It's almost as if you make them just to take up space, which it seems people here have no tolerance for. What's pathetic about the flipper is how little of the edible biomass of the seal it construes. Debating with you is like trying to have an intelligent debate with a child. I'm not going to discus anything more with you. Figure it out for yourself.
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223gunner. If you have a problem the the statistics, write to the Canadian Department of Fisheries and Oceans. That's who compiled them. I'm sure your pathetic little seal flipper lines were included in the numbers. Any other foods that may wind up being thrown away by ordinary diners certainly wasn't planned to wind up that way, unlike the seal slaughter where it is.
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@CoffinCornerX you are contradicting yourself you say that its a pathetic seal flipper if "white people"enjoy it,but then in another post you say that its a delicacy for the Inuits. which is it? by the way how many Inuit do you know personally?
223gunner 2 years ago
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@CoffinCornerX So when you buy fish or meat do you also buy the bones,fat,cartilage to consume in any other way? No? you might say { well what doesn't make it to the store shelves goes to animal food maybe so its not wasted right? Well just think of all the animals or ocean life that benefits from a few seal remains! what comes from the sea eventually returns to the sea, in the wild nothing is wasted or the more famous anti slogan "left to rot on the ice"!
223gunner 2 years ago
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@CoffinCornerX just think about it? How much edible food is being thrown into the garbage pails or wasted in the span of one day around the world? whether its from homes,restaurants,other types of hunting, Just take a Butcher from a meat shop for example,When he cuts choice meat or even running it through the band saw the scraps & or shavings to be thrown away would far out weigh the amount of the weight of seal carcasses for the whole season.Now in a perfect world this would not be true.
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@CoffinCornerX "just so you know "! 96%!oh snap out of it! just making up percentages now are you ! playing with numbers to fool the ignorant? the meat that is on the flippers is where the bulk of the meat is too, the meat on the carcass is deceiving as it is just a fine layer that covers the sinew and cartilage . but how would you know that ? its something that you just cant Google so easy! i guess thats why you feel so confident to exploit it! its best if you just drop that argument! : )
223gunner 2 years ago
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hahahahaha just so you all know! watch the voting here or wherever CoffinCornerx's posts are too! his goes up in the high +s & everyone that oppose him goes to low minuses in just a few hours. pretty convenient for him id say & very childlike. maybe he is just a little bit "special"!
223gunner 2 years ago
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223gunner. As the Inuit would be the first to tell you, everything part of a seal is edible. Just watch the video "Anthony Bourdain in Quebec". Here on YT. Even the blood is saved and used for stews. As is so often demonstrated by the wasteful sealers, this somehow doesn't seem to factor into their equation of edible since the iceflowes are regularly painted red with the blood of baby seals. Shows you how sick in the head they are. Bones are even edible. Look up the ingredients of jello.
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223gunner 2 years ago
While I still don't approve of the suffering, If the natives seal hunt, they can only take so little I'm betting
But a fishing corporation or group that's doing it for monetary gain will not care what their quota is, indeed it will be unreasonably high. It will not be just for food or cultural/traditional signifigance, it will be for fucking money
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Just so you know 101101777, The indigenous peoples of Canada hunt primarily adult ringed seals, and yes, it's done for food and utility. 100% of the seal is used. Not one Inuit ("Eskimo") holds a license to participate in the commercial slaughter. There's your "endorsement" of the hunt, or rather lack thereof. The Canadian commercial seal hunt makes the animal slaughters in the coliseum appear frugal. At least the animal meats were used to feed the slaves of Rome not 96% wasted like here.
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The money plus the meat from the seal hunt feeds families here on the east coast too ! When we head back to our ports there are line ups of people just for the flippers & or carcasses But some how you conveniently left that out of the equation! You see you have no idea of what rural life is all about!
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QuarterlyGlobe 2 years ago
@101101101777 im from here so is rex. i can honestly say they are not large companies but licensed individuals. locals
eastcoaster54 1 year ago
@101101101777 Your ignorance is so appalling that I am staggered. The people who killed some seals have trod far lighter on the ground ( for 500 years I might add !) than you ciity dwellers have.. Please! What is the harm to the enviroment of your car??? Think! Is a sustainable harvest of seals somehow better than your Egg Mac Muffin?
Ciao Stuart
sgtcrab1 1 year ago
@sgtcrab1 I don't have a car, I don't eat egg mcmuffins and I am not ignorant.
101101101777 1 year ago
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1. It's Newfoundland. You can be sure there are no corporations taking millions of seals.
2. It's Fisherman off the isles mostly, so its not like there are 100,000 people jumping on the floes with gaffs. It is a cultural tradition, as we've been doing it for well over 100 years. (See seal hunt disaster of the early 1900's)
3. Many people DO eat seal, as a cultural tradition. Ever heard of Flipper Pie?
4. and for the most part, there is no more suffering than a shot to the head.
TheRimDoctor 1 year ago 2
@TheRimDoctor and you would know the suffering now of being shot in the head? What if it didn't kill you right away? Also, I don't care about traditions anymore. If some creature has to suffer or die then I don't give a goddamn shit about tradition
101101101777 1 year ago
@101101101777 so is shooting a cow in the head any more horrible lets face it you don't like the seal hunt because you think seals are cute thats the only reason.
viper10011 10 months ago
@viper10011 No that's not the only reason. I believe in all creatures co-existing. I have vision. It's not about which one's are cuter. Folks of this mindset always do this, they always think it has to do with the cute ones.
Would you not harm a baby human simply because they're cute?
101101101777 10 months ago
@101101101777 1) the clubbing of white coat seals "babbies" has been illegal since 1987.
2) The population was 2 million in the 1970's it's 9 million today.
3) They use all the meat and the fur nothing is waisted.
4) It provides employment to the people of the area where there really isn't any other work around.
5) How is clubbing a seal any differn't than clubbing a fish?
6) It's tradition they have been doing it since 1900.
viper10011 10 months ago
@viper10011 * Since 1600.
TheRimDoctor 10 months ago
@TheRimDoctor thx for the correction.
viper10011 10 months ago
@101101101777 7) I would not harm a baby human because it's my own dam species however liberals seem to believe that killing a human being 2 weeks before it's born is moraly exceptable and since you sound liberal maby you should think about that.
viper10011 10 months ago
@viper10011 well ya the baby is your own species but also because you recognize that that creature, like others, has their own set of god given inalienable rights. What should I think about? What was your point? And of course I wouldn't think that acceptable. I don't live in the US in case you do so don't automatically label me with stupid idealogical themes or political party names, plz.
101101101777 10 months ago
@101101101777 I would harm a baby human if it's particularly annoying.
Or if I run out of steak. Mmmm, Children.
TheRimDoctor 10 months ago
@TheRimDoctor It's 2011 and at present If animals are being exploited I really don't give a damn about people's cultural traditions.
101101101777 10 months ago
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With 1.2 billion Chickens being slaughtered every year, and hundreds of millions of cattle, Ever have a turkey on thanksgiving? Your cultural tradition kills millions of turkeys per year. Go stop poaching in Africa, stop polar bear hunting in Russia, Stop whaling in Japan, or if you really care about giving a fuck about exploiting of animals, why not start attacking Australia for their wool industry? All these hunts are much larger than the Newfoundland Seal hunt has ever been.
TheRimDoctor 10 months ago
@101101101777 Are you worried about all of the fish the seals eat? Fish are animals, they have nervous systems and can sense pain.
newguy33X 9 months ago
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in continuation, As opposed to popular belief held by biased megastars and Greenpeace, we don't club seals, we use rifles. We don't hunt pups, we dont skin them alive and we dont scatter their carcasses everywhere like neanderthaals. We hunt seals like we hunt moose, except Seals are a lot less likely to get hit by a car.
TheRimDoctor 1 year ago 3
@TheRimDoctor i agree with your words
CSIS25 1 year ago
@TheRimDoctor So what?
101101101777 1 year ago
@101101101777 I do enjoy how your comment is only filled with "What I think" and "I'm betting" while adding some more of your thoughts asserting it to be true.
I'll be glad to hear you give any sources for your claims of "taking so little" and any sort of prove that the quota is too high for the population.
Sedalb 11 months ago
@ Ersabette. St. Augustine of Hippo made similar observations to yours. In some ancient cultures burning the dead was considered immoral. Yet, the Vikings considered it honorable. What St. Augustine did conclude was there were certain morals that were held to be universal such killing and waste. He posthumously argued against the killing and waste of all life in Rome's coliseums. As pointless as the seal hunt is, parallels can easily be drawn to it and the coliseums. Don't make me start.
CoffinCornerX 2 years ago 9
Ersabette. You say seals are "overpopulated". Got any peer reviewed study or report that backs your opinion? 101101101777. Be careful with Ersabette, she's always dumping unsupported pop-opinion out in these comments. Ersabette, do harp seal populations threaten any fish species? Ersabette may wrongly argue that seals threaten ocean ecology, yet she never argues against the biggest threat to it, human fishermen. Her neighbors. Ersabettes false concerns completely undermine her credibility.
CoffinCornerX 2 years ago 10
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For those of you who keep referring to 'babies' and 'pups'; will you get your fact straight? The killing of the pups or 'white coats', the ones that the celebrities love to hug (and subsequently drive its mother away), has been outlawed for 20+ years.
But its just another tactic to pull at the heart strings of the public.
nuvik340 2 years ago
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Nuvik - You are only partially right. You're wrong on the important part. The seal hunt DOES still target baby seals. The CVMA, EFSA and DFO agree that harp seals in Canada are hunted starting at age 12 days old when they have molted their white coats. 95% of all seals killed in 2007 were under the age of 3.5 months old. The EFSA and even the DFO label these seals as NEONATAL. Babies. "Whitecoat" is not exclusive to "baby seal". The period that they are babies continues well beyond that time
CoffinCornerX 2 years ago 9
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Well done Rex. I become livid when these EU suits, ugly Botox cratered Hollywood starlets/PETA wing-nuts tell the Inuit how they can and cannot live their lives. I would love to see Pam Anderson dropped off on King William Island (The burial ground of most of Franklin's men) in December and live on only vegetation. That's reality TV I would watch!
Shame on the PM for not standing up for the people of the north - the hardiest people on the planet who are a source of pride and not disgrace.
Number7smokesForEver 2 years ago
Yeah sorry. The people of the EU and the EU ban don't prevent the Inuit from hunting, eating or wearing seals. The people of the EU are not telling the Inuit how to live their lives they are simply deciding how they will live theirs. Simple capitalism at work.
CoffinCornerX 2 years ago 5
Wow.
I rarely agree with Rex Murphy, but I'm frequently impressed with his rhetorical skill.
mrparkerquebec 2 years ago
Now an internal memo in Canadian governance has said dog and cat fur from China should NOT be banned from import into Canada, because Canada wants the European Union to lift it's ban on seal products, so to say no to dog/cat fur imports would make them look like hypocrites instead of animal slaughter profiteers.
101101101777 2 years ago 9
Wasn't the Canadian government going to stop it in the nineties but instead placed seal pups as the number one target? the whole thing is sick.
101101101777 2 years ago 3
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they where going too till they found out how importen seal was too norther canada.
Zoober0001 2 years ago
They make it out like it's a tradition for Native Inuit, but all I ever see is white guys in fishing vessels, who sell the pups once gorgeous bodies for export cash.
101101101777 2 years ago 9
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it is a tradition for native inuits, and not only natives live in norther canada... whats more shocking white person hunting seal or a native..
Zoober0001 2 years ago
I know that it's native tradition, but I mean seal hunting as a commercial industry. Natives would be exempt from a commercial seal hunting ban anyway, so they don't even come into the equation. That only leaves you with the commercial export profit driven fur trade, that apparently wouldn't financially survive without subsidies anyways. At least the natives don't disrespecxtfully leave a bloody skinned baby body on the ice to rot (i hope)
101101101777 2 years ago 6
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the Netherlands, Germany and Belgium trapping at least 1 million between them each year. As most animals are trapped as pests, one should expect any debate about the welfare of trapped animals to focus on pest control, and yet animal rights groups have largely chosen to ignore this aspect. & these "pests" are carted off to landfills,none are utilized .
harpsealer 2 years ago
@harpsealer - You seem to forget the utter devistation "pests" reaped upon Europe in the 1400's. The Bubonic Plague, facilitated by the proliferation of flea carrying pests, whipped out 1/3 of Europe's popultion. An ounce of prevention is worth pound of cure. Harp Seals were studied by the CDC and were not found to have any existing or immerging health threats to human populations. Try another lame argument.
CoffinCornerX 2 years ago 6
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coffincornerx -You seem to forget things or is this all lies to make yourself seem informed? you say"Harp seals were studied by the CDC and were not found to have any existing or immerging health threats to human populations."but on another video post "The Canadian Press - Canada Seal Hunt - response to EU ban" you mention "don't run the risk of getting trichinosis since seals carry it "make up your mind and stop making up lies
harpsealer 2 years ago
@harpsealer Eating a seal is not a passive pestulance, DOPE!
CoffinCornerX 2 years ago 8
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good! then eat some seal.
harpsealer 2 years ago
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@CoffinCornerX - hey dope, you say that its wrong to kill seals for fur, well what about the countless number of mink,marten,wolf,fox,lynx,beaver,muskrat,plus many more fur bearers are primarily raised for their fur alone! but thats some thing thats far from your mind now is it! this is the human way of life that is widely accepted other than the small minority of the opposing side!
harpsealer 2 years ago
Rex forgot to mention how disgusting most ordinary people find it.
A happy living animal is more valuable than all the money and trade politics.
If you need to eat to survive, give them respect before you eat, rather than killing their young, running across the ice waving a giant metal cluib like some mad man
101101101777 2 years ago 3
so you're saying that it's relevant that they kill seals with a giant metal club as opposed to a gun? you're an idiot. A happy living animal is more valuable than all the money and trade politics? Right, ok.
reubenbasic 2 years ago 5
Don't use anything, club or gun. If you have to kill for food then at least use nothing but your bare hands. Be a real man. A living happy animal IS important, LIFE is important more than politics or money or even what ignorant rubbish you have to say.
If you take away the right of happiness for an animal than what right to happiness do you retain. Humans are animals, and some humans want to take away your right to the pursuit of happiness.
101101101777 2 years ago 5
hahahahahah
reubenbasic 2 years ago 3
hahahahaha :p
fuck the system for allowing this shit to go on.
101101101777 2 years ago 4
I have no problem with a system that allows for killing of seals
reubenbasic 2 years ago 5
why?
101101101777 2 years ago 10
that would take a long answer. but clearly I don't think killing seals is wrong
reubenbasic 2 years ago
Then perhaps you don't see anything wrong with killing people aswell? As a race we do so much of that. Human babies, seal pups, not much difference to you maybe?
101101101777 2 years ago
Did I say that? No I did not say that
reubenbasic 2 years ago
Put aside the speciesist inequality superiority complex many people seem to have and really ask, what difference is it between killing animal or human-animal? Even as humans are different why is it an excuse to kill other forms of life? We know now enough about plants and synthetic materials we don't need animal products, and the human body is best served by plant-based diets.
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@101101101777 Why are you being such an arrogant animalist? Plants feel pain you know. Don't eat the plants.
LukaSteinberg 2 years ago
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@LukaSteinberg
THEY'RE CRYING, CAN'T YOU HEAR THEM? THE PLANTS ARE CRYING!
MapleOak20 2 years ago
it's different with plants tho, if you don't think so then just take my word for it ;)
and then we'll both look for the scientific data on the topic
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@101101101777 if you believe that synthetic is a healthier choice then you yourself do not know enough of synthetic materials and its negative effects on not only the body but the planet as well.
Ersabette 2 years ago
yet at least with sythetic clothing we can work on reducing harful manufacturing exposure and re--using and recycling them and not just throwing them out. I don't approve of all synthetics tho, like many clothes made out of fleece, it's just plastic garbage that makes static. Yet at least with synthetics if we all reused them noone would have to rely on killing animals, and possibly unsustainable killings happening right now
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@101101101777 we have a safe alternative to synthetics right now, I do not want to wait while we work on making it safer. The chemicals that are used before and after processing our every day clothing can and are linked to such diseases as cancer. If you mean the harp seal hunt is unsustainable you would be incorrect. The harp seal is currently over populated with a recent population survey putting them at over 7 million now. Their over population is making their ecosystem unsustainable.
Ersabette 2 years ago
I think we upset certain ecological balances by killing, and through exploitation and damage to bio-diversity we might have affected populations. But then humans come in again and claim it's up to them to "fix" populations with more killing, compounding the problem further rather than leaving animal systems alone.
Who says that 7 million seal is unfit for their habitat? Noone listens to honest ecologists anyways.
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@101101101777 An honest ecologist is one that agrees with your point of view then? Seals are already showing signs that they are overpopulated by a change in their behaviour ie; coming closer to land looking for food. We as humans are a predatory species. We can not live in this world without affecting it so yes, it is up to us to take responsibility for ourselves. Denying our role and responsibilites will upset nature.
Ersabette 2 years ago
Whether or not or killing them is sustainable or not is secondary. I stand against it first because I've decided it is morally wrong (as with other animal/human slayings) and cause it's a better use of my time than virtually shooting people or watching tv as so many do.
Also, we really really need to stop making Flame Retardant chemicals into things, it is a huge chemical problem
101101101777 2 years ago 7
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@101101101777 standing against something because you decided it is morally wrong is irresponsible. Morals vary from person to peron and do not necessarily look at an important issue rationally.
Ersabette 2 years ago
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viperhq11 2 years ago
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I personally think they just did it to shut the activists up so they could go through their election without the nonsense.
Several delegates were being harassed and threatened over this issue so I wouldn't be surprised they allowed it to passed knowing quite well that it would die at the WTO.
After all, they came to a conclusion that their commissioned report didn't come to and didn't even consider giving Canada a chance to comply to the report's recommendations. The WTO wont like that.
canucktunes 2 years ago
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CoffinCornerX 2 years ago
Oh I see, Pride. Like the kind of pride that possesses someone who defends the seal hunt? It makes virtually no money for those who participate in it and comprises less than one half of one percent of the NL GDP. Seal fur demand is at an all time low, and less than 4% of the edible biomass generated by the hunt is ever sold as meat. The only people defending the hunt could only do it based off of pride or raising money under the false guise of job creation as a politician.
CoffinCornerX 2 years ago 6
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The three time suspended troll's first account was suspended in July 2009 and he has been accusing me of being involved in a flagging campaign since.
Yet when I deny being involved in anything, instead of providing proof he simply uses his puppet accounts to make my denial inaccessible to the dimwits that subscribe to his bull shit and don't know they can view my posts using the options or reply button.
canucktunes 2 years ago
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The three time suspended troll appears to believe that Youtube is easily convinced to suspend any video on the subject matter.
Yet this video remains and has not resulted in any suspension, nor have the many hundreds of other pro and con videos on the subject matter that are still online, from both partnered and non-partnered users.
I've never claimed to be a pro-sealing advocate and the sealing videos I've added to my favorites say pretty much everything I would have said in my videos.
canucktunes 2 years ago
Careful with the half true lies canucktunes spins. He and his cronies have been involved with false flagging campaigns ever since he realized seal hunt videos were on Youtube. That's HOW seal hunt opponents channels get suspended. Any reason why canucktunes is such an outspoken seal hunt advocate yet has not one pro-seal hunt video? Of course. He's afraid of retaliation and a false flagging campaign suspending his own channel.
CoffinCornerX 2 years ago 6
Part 2 - This year it will be even less, because pelts of three to four week old beaters that make up 95% of the catch are selling for between $6 and $33. This $6-million costs Canadians at least 10 times as much and does so year after year. Just to begin, 10 icebreakers working for up to 7 days and an additional $10 million minimum cost to appeal the EU ban will drive the seal hunt the farthest into tax payer subsidized debt than ever before.
CoffinCornerX 2 years ago 5
Part 1 - Last year, according to its Web site, this entire economic opportunity amounted to $12-million, the value of all seal pelts landed. They fetched on average $52 a pelt. According to evidence given to Parliaments standing committee on fisheries and oceans on Nov. 6, 2006, half of that is eaten up by expenses, so we are talking, at most, $6-million that flowed to the sealers themselves: one-tenth of 1% of Newfoundlands GDP.
CoffinCornerX 2 years ago 3
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Never could understand all the fuss over the hunt. I mean, it's not like they're killing preborn babies or somesuch....
And that goes on year 'round.
babajii321 2 years ago
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@babajii321 - Definitely. They`re acting like seals are being wiped out whenever they claim a million of them are being killed every four years yet in reality 1.4 million harp seals are born every year.
The IUCN Red List website entry confirms this, along with the fact that their numbers are increasing, from 8 million worldwide.
These people complain about how young the seals are when they`re killed yet don`t care about the billions of 48h old male baby chicks killed every year in the states.
canucktunes 2 years ago
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Not only that, canuck, they also consume fish by the gazillion, depleting stocks and thus threatening livelihoods of people who live in that area. Seal hunters are merely playing their part in balancing nature.
However, if seals were as ugly as spiders, nobody would give a damn.
Speaking of which, I wonder which pampered, publicity seeking fog headed celeb will venture up there next.....
Madonna? Beyoncé? Who's turn is it?
babajii321 2 years ago
babjii321 - By in large pets, like yours are the most responsible for the depleting of fish from the ocean. In fact most fish that are taken from our oceans wind up as pet food. If you're so damned worried about our oceans populations why don't you put your pet down?
InuitVoice 2 years ago 2
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I find your remark about most fish ending up as dogfood somewhat dubious, InuitVoice. However, you missed the point entirely. I'm merely placing the lives and livelihoods of people above animals.
And where in hell did you get the idea I owned a pet? I don't.
babajii321 2 years ago
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I don't think they would score anyone as big as Madonna and I doubt it's Beyoncé's style. I'm guessing the HSUS will try to get Carrie Underwood out there, out of desperation.
Perhaps PETA will try to get Pink on the ice flow but I don't think that would happen. I like Pink but I don't see her freezing her ass off for "the cause" either.
canucktunes 2 years ago
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I hear Pamela Anderson is an ambassador now, aided by Kelly Osborne and celeb blogger Perez Hilton. Heavy artillery, that. Could be trouble. As long as we're on the subject, did you see Danny Williams kick Sir Paul McCartney's ass on Larry King a year or two back? I've been searching the Tube for it, but no luck thus far.
babajii321 2 years ago
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Yeah, I saw that interview and I thought it was rather sad. I like Paul's music but he had been played.
Pam Anderson has been in it for several years and nobody takes her seriously. She was booed at the Juno Awards for her pathetic Seal joke and hasn't been able to justify her stance against animal testing because as a Hep C sufferer she uses medication derived from animal testing.
canucktunes 2 years ago
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I just watched Kelly's and Paris' "Save The Seals" interviews and it's all the same old bull sh*t.
Paris wants people to wear fake fur, regardless of the fact that most of it is derived from oil. And Kelly thinks seals are being killed in front of their mothers, when in reality these mothers leave their pups at less than two weeks of age, several days or weeks before they are hunted.
canucktunes 2 years ago
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I don't think we should spend any more time commenting on this thread, Canuck. It appears the person(s) who uploaded this one have a thing against freedom of expression. (Thumbs down, marked as spam etc etc....) Looks like those of us on the yea side are none too welcome.
It's enough to make one wonder if he/she belongs to one of those "human rights" comissions....
babajii321 2 years ago
You can ask your buddy all about censorship. It's really too bad he and other seal hunt supporters can't handle the truth being told. The original and continuing harbingers of censorship are hunt supporters. This comment section and others are just the fruition of your buddy's lack of foresight. Too bad really when Youtube applications can be used as weapons of censorship.
CoffinCornerX 2 years ago 3
If that's the case, coffin, why is it only supporters who are having their comments surpressed?
And in the time it took me to write this, more people have been slaughtered in some godforsaken part of this planet than during an entire seal hunt season.
Why all the fuss over mere animals?
babajii321 2 years ago
babajii321 - You seem to discount the scale of the action being called for. Injustice against humans is in many cases worthy of invasion from foreign powers (eg. WWII). Nobody is calling for the invasion of Canada over a few seals. Europe never declared war on Canada. Nevertheless, there seemed to be enough mandate within the EU and USA to effect a bans.
CoffinCornerX 2 years ago 6
babajii321 - It may be seal hunt supporters comments that get suppressed in some comment sections, but it's seal hunt opponents videos that are taken down for showing the very activity they seek to end. It's called "false flagging". No one is offended by the video but those who seek to "suppress" the images of the hunt. They aren't offended by the images, they are offended that others are seeing them.
CoffinCornerX 2 years ago 5
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It's always the same routine. He flags and down rates the hell out of the comments using puppet accounts and then tries to claim the seal hunt supporters did it to him.
Well, I did not flag any of the videos on his main account and Youtube obviously didn't buy his arguments to reinstate them.
Furthermore, he had been suspended twice after that, including for harassment of yours truly. He actually openly threatened to ruin my reputation with Youtube and impersonated me to try to do it.
canucktunes 2 years ago
Sounds like you two have a history. Does this guy have a name? I mean, is he among the nay posters on here?
babajii321 2 years ago
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He's been harassing me since early 2008.
You'll notice that even when you block him that he'll bypass your filter by replying to your comments on other people's videos.
I had blocked him quickly but he kept on sending me his bull shit comments, most of which accused me of being something or another, for months, even when I had decided to delete them unread.
Normal trolls would have been bored after awhile and would have f*cked off. But he's a sanctimonious bigot with a "cause".
canucktunes 2 years ago
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He apparently hasn't understood that his little games reduces his credibility, not mine. But then he's been suspended three times for his behavior and still came back, in violation of the TOS, so he has no credibility at all.
These are the desperate acts of a coward and manipulator. And perhaps you should inform Youtube that someone is flagging all of your comments as spam.
canucktunes 2 years ago
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pigs, cows, chickens, these animals need your attenion beacuse it is sick what is done to these animals who live in a cage not even big enough turn around in. Seals are wild and breed in huge numbers damaging fishing which is the only thing keeping eastern/northern canada alive still, i don't agree with fishermen who shoot just to kill leaveing them on-shore to rot (i've seen it happen all too offten) but with a licence and a quota givein these people have a right to earn a liveing
lokiflash 2 years ago
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EFSAQ2007118 2 years ago
1. lokiflash. You bring up 3 arguments I'll take them one at a time. No one is here defending factory farming. Still, baby cows and baby pigs are not slaughtered for their hides alone and their bodies strew out over the fields of Iowa and Texas. An analysis of 2006 DFO statistics shows that 4% of the edible biomass generated by the seal hunt is eventually sold as "meat". This seal slaughter is in no way comparable to a subsistence industry.
CoffinCornerX 2 years ago 2
2. In a peer reviewed study published in 1998, it was confirmed that seals primarily eat squid and skates. Dog food fish. It was shown that only 5% of the contents of a harp seals stomach was cod. The DFO has even published on their own seal hunt myths page that, "Several factors have contributed to the lack of recovery of the North Atlantic Cod, such as fishing efforts, poor growth and physical condition of the fish and environmental changes." Seals are not mentioned.
CoffinCornerX 2 years ago 2
3. Everyone has a right to earn a living. It's just a question on what moral grounds they do it on. What do you think about the man trafficking his daughter to make a living? Or what about a youth selling marijuana to his friends? Hey, "it's a living". You might say, "Well you're comparing legal to illegal activities." In China it's completely legal to execute someone who speaks up about their occupation of Tibet. Does that make the execution right? Not everything that's legal, is right.
CoffinCornerX 2 years ago
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@lokiflash You'll notice that the three time suspended troll fails to mention that he is himself responsible for propaganda videos meant to keep people from eating seal meat.
A study published in Environmental Health on June 2nd, 2008 has determined that these has been a 32% drop in the blood concentration of mercury in the Inuit from 1992 to 2004. 55% when it comes to lead.
Cadmium remains but tobacco use is to blame according to the study.
Google 1476-069X-7-25 for details.
canucktunes 2 years ago
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Apparently the three time suspended troll thinks everyone pulls "facts" out of their ass like he does.
Everyone can search for the words "IFAW Technical Briefing 2009-1" or the filename asset_upload_file935_53312.pdf to access it on IFAW's own site.
But of course the three time suspended troll will yet again abuse the comment ratings with his puppet accounts in order to keep this information from the less intelligent people he's trying to reach with his propaganda and idiotic redefinitions.
canucktunes 2 years ago
canucktunes, you're such a fraud. Strangely that detail is somehow missing from the wikipedia article. Anyone can post that smut in the Michael Adams wikipedia article, including you. Here's the problem though. You better have proof. If not, it's coming out within 24 hours by those people intelligent enough to be writing that wikipedia article. Add it. We're watching. You better have a reliable source, which you don't. Never miss a chance to spam a video do you canucktunes,
CoffinCornerX 2 years ago
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The three time suspended troll does love his IFAW funded Environics polls, doesn't he ?
Apparently he thinks all Canadians should subscribe to the wims of the two thousand or so people Environics polls every few months with their leading questions.
That's right. Their questions include selective statement meant to sway the respondents.
For example in the previous 2009 poll the respondents were told that a million seals had been killed in the past four years... (cont)
canucktunes 2 years ago
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(cont) ...But no information in regards to the population and birth rate of these seals were given according to IFAW Technical Briefing 2009-01 And worse still they included a statement that implied that seals under two weeks were being hunted in the commercial hunt.
So basically they contacted people and force fed them IFAW's cliff notes in the hopes to pull an ad populum.
If Canadians were against the hunt, S-229 would have been seconded and the green party would have had a seat in Ottawa.
canucktunes 2 years ago
According to a public opinion poll conducted by Environics Research in September 2009, 73% of Canadians say the EU should be able to restrict trade in seal products, if it chooses to. Environics is one of Canada's leading marketing and social survey research consultancies with a reputation for integrity, accuracy and insight. Co-founded in 1970 by Michael Adams, the firm has evolved into a multi-disciplined international research and consulting group.
CoffinCornerX 2 years ago
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I have no problem with one arguing against the seal hunt. You however promote hate toward Newfoundlanders. This I find despicable. One can't have a civil debate with a nazi sympathizer. You will ALWAYS remember me. I am in your head. I guess you have to direct your hate at someone, and you found one. I hope there is Karma in this world and it bites you for the hate you spread all over the web. I really hope misfortune finds you. When it does, whenever, remember me , I'll be laughing, and glad.
Beebelbrox100 2 years ago
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Dude you were making up excuses,.Like the "only obeying orders crap" Its clear to anyone. You are an apologist for Nazis.
The seal hunt. You have no video of Inuit supporting your argument. You blame Newfoundlanders. No surprise using a scapegoat as you are a Nazi sympathizer. The Inuit Leader Mary Simon places the blame on people like you, not NLers. Finally there is no point arguing with you...you are a hater and a Nazi sympathizer and you know it.
Beebelbrox100 2 years ago
Just like my opposition to the commercial seal slaughter, my arguing against those who deny the holocaust is honorable. I have no shame in that. You can contact whom ever you want. I've been called gay, I've been called pedophile I've been called every name under the sun by those who can't win the battle of facts regarding the seal hunt to stop me from posting . By doing so, you just announced to anyone reading this debate you have lost....a long time ago. You lost before you even started.
CoffinCornerX 2 years ago
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Oh and some other groups...not youtube have the info. They were made aware of it a while ago. Sick Nazi bastard. I hope one of my grandfathers or great uncles took out your Nazi relatives or wounded them.
Beebelbrox100 2 years ago
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Sick mind? You do your best to make excuses for your Nazi relatives and for their participation in the Holocaust in the comments section for the video Trip to Dachau.....you sick Nazi sympathizer. I expect you'll remove those posts won't you.
Beebelbrox100 2 years ago
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3 million kangaroo's on average have been culled each year for the last 10 years in Australia. Leaving anywhere from 150,000 to 315 000 joeys to die from starvation or predation. Last years seal hunt saw 70,000 animals culled. Are numbers what is important to animal rights activists. Funny how this activity is not on their radar. Those kangaroos will be clubbed, mangled or shot. Must be no money in protesting the kangaroo cull for activists.
Beebelbrox100 2 years ago
"Distraction argument". And there's just as strong a movement to have that end as well. Have you searched "Kangaroo slaughter" here on Youtube. Beelbelbrox100's point is the following; if my neighbor sins then it's okay for me to sin too. If that were the way the world really worked we would quickly descend into anarchy and civil unrest. Just like a typical seal hunter, you Beelbelbrox100 have a sick mind. Can I now go out and rob a store because my neighbor beats his wife? Nooooo.
CoffinCornerX 2 years ago 5
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InuitVoice is not Inuit. National Inuit leader Mary Simon in her video Inuit on Sealing clearly places the blame for the demise of the INUIT commercial seal hunt on Animal rights activists, through their lobbying and misinformation. Some posters who have no knowledge of the fact that Inuit do gain a livelihood from the commercial hunt of seals refuse to take ownership of the fact they killed an Inuit livelihood. Mary Simon doesn't blame white people like a certain American poster does.
MrPablo109 2 years ago
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The chicken you bought at a supermarket reached the kill floor at 4 weeks of age. Hundreds of millions of chickens will be killed every year in North America. Guaranteed, not everyone of them received a death with the optimum amount of "humanity". Nor are they raised "humanely" However the idea of anthropomorphism is not extended to these animals as they are to seal pups. Why?, because everyone eats chicken. animal rights people know that fight is a lost cause.
MrPablo109 2 years ago
Gee MrPablo105. You make some of the best arguments against the seal hunt than even I do. That's right, only 4% of the edible biomass generated by the seal hunt is eventually sold as "meat". An analysis of DFO statistics shows that. And whereas a chicken will live to be 7 years old and is sexually mature already at 4 weeks, a harp seal only reaches sexual maturity at 5 years and is expected to live 30-40 years.
CoffinCornerX 2 years ago 7
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Furthermore, I'm not a sealer, I've never met a sealer,I've never killed an animal in my life. What truly pisses me off is someone like you who knows nothing about life in the northern part of Canada. I actually think you've got some personal issues to deal with. Why not fight for an animal that is truly in danger of extinction. Why not go and save a few stray cats and dogs. I took home a kitten 2 months ago. After several hundreds of dollars in vet bills the cat can look forward to a nice life
MrPablo109 2 years ago
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Dude, all you've been doing is using multiple accounts to hide comments to which you have no rebuttal. I've spanked your butt soooo many times.I've posted sooo many comments that you were unable to counter.
You've been suspended 3 time. For spamming and for posting video that you had no permission to post.
Your last attempt to have me suspended didn't work.
Obviously suspension doesn't work. If it did you wouldn't be here.
MrPablo109 2 years ago
What's more Inuit, Mr. Pablo is now violating the TOS by spamming this video with multiple comments simply to move unfavorable comments that work against him off the front page. Reported again.
CoffinCornerX 2 years ago 3
MrPablo109. Typical of seal hunt supporters first you lose when arguing facts, then you lose when using hate speech so now you want to change the rules of the game? It's clear you simply cannot handle the fact that you hold a very unpopular opinion. Turning off the comment rating feature on this video would simply inhibit those who wish to express their opinions. Keep the feature enabled CBC.
InuitVoice 2 years ago 4
Anyone can watch my newest video to review the very document that exposes the Canadian government in their attempt to, in their own words, "Play the Inuit Card". Watch the video "Inuit vs. Commercial Seal Hunt - Appendix i" and see the document itself. Why would the white commercial seal hunt need the help of the Inuit if it were a humane seal hunt to begin with.
InuitVoice 2 years ago 5
Additionally, in 1985 the Canadian government was originally exposed playing the Inuit card when, in their report, "Defense of the Fur Trade" they said, "Defense of Aboriginal cultures could be a good counter balance to the anti-fur/anti-trapping campaigns."
InuitVoice 2 years ago 8
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CBC please get rid of this rating feature as a 40 year old child can't handle it when he's been made a fool of
MrPablo109 2 years ago
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CBC should get rid of the rating feature as a 40 year old child who knows nothing of northern life abuses the rating feature because he has no rebuttal. His rebuttals are juvenile at best
MrPablo109 2 years ago
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CBC should lose the rating feature as a 40 year old child who knows nothing of northern life, uses all his accounts to rate negatively comments to which he has no answer.
MrPablo109 2 years ago
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the 40 year old child who uses his many accounts to give negative ratings to hide comments to which he has no rebuttal should do something worthwhile for himself like learn Spanish.
Beebelbrox100 2 years ago
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Beebelbrox100 2 years ago
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CBC should get rid of the rating feature. There is a 40 year old child who trolls this site and uses all his accounts to hide comments to which he has no answer.
Beebelbrox100 2 years ago
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Oh...Oh, Still here!
Beebelbrox100 2 years ago
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HAHA, What a complete loser CoffinX is. Anyway people, read canuktunes last post. Everyone knows PETA, HSUS are a bunch of disingenuous scumbags. HSUS pulled a wounded seal out of the water after it tried to escape, & filmed it for 40 minutes for propaganda purposes.
See Mary Simon's video Inuit on Sealing. She places the blame squarely on the shoulders of the Anti Sealing Lobby and their coward;y supporters like this soutwestern american CoffinX
Beebelbrox100 2 years ago
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It is quite apparent by the troll's quotes that these groups don't recognize the Inuit fur trade at all.
They've had ample time to separate the Inuit fur trade from the commercial hunt in the Gulf of St. Laurence, allowing for exemptions for the Inuit to sell their furs to everyone. But they haven't because they're against all fur trades.
canucktunes 2 years ago
"Of course, IFAW, like many organizations and nations opposed to the Canadian commercial seal hunt is not opposed to seal hunting by Aboriginal peoples for cultural and traditional purposes." - IFAW
CoffinCornerX 2 years ago 13
"Subsistence seal hunts are not the target of the The Humane Society of the United States' 'Protect the Seals" campaign. Our campaign is not aimed at ending Aboriginal hunts" - HSUS
CoffinCornerX 2 years ago 13
While certain indigenous groups must eat meat and wear animal skin to survive, it is rare to find cultures or individuals who have no choice but to kill. Still PETA has no quarrel with subsistence hunters and fishers who truly have no other options." - Peta
CoffinCornerX 2 years ago 14