@Buuuuuutch Unfortunately ST-TMP isn't in the top 25 AFI film scores, which is pretty inexplicable, unless the AFI were trying to present a certain range of scores instead of picking the best 25. Goldsmith was represented by Chinatown (9) and Planet of the Apes (18). I would have thought Patton would be in the final 25 score list as well as ST-TMP.
@Buuuuuutch ST-TMP was in the 250 nominations list for the AFI list. I noticed that no composer got more than 11 nominations, which must have been the maximum allowed, presumably to prevent the list from becoming dominated by any particular group of composers. Amazingly 'Hoosiers' wasn't considered a top 250 American score.
Each score in this film depicting various scenes of V'ger is a masterpiece invoking dark moods, layers upon mysterious layers, depths too unfathomable to comprehend. In all, one inconceivable being embodying the overwhelming infinity of the cosmos IN YOUR FACE.. Truly terrifying awe.
A lot of people have a problem with the lengthy visual effects sequences in TMP, but I gotta say... What it is to me is pure art. Its revelling in the dark beauty of the designs. The Enterprise as seen in that picture as it floats over the huge alien vessel.... The visual effects in the film surpase pretty much everything i've ever seen. Some of my earliest nightmares came from those sequences. Being adrift and alone in the depths of some unknown thing.
My brother put this movies sound track into my cd player in my car and set it to play this track right when i started the car. The blaster beam sound scared the shit out of me cause he had the volume cranked lol
I agree, this is his best score. Many would say that Planet of the Apes is, but I think that it's just the FIRST of his best and most innovative scores.
Actually I'm not so sure TMP is as flawed as I suggested... Its scope is ambitious and it avoids the terrible soap opera aspects of DS9 and Voyager...
ST should always be about pushing the human imagination to its limits and dealing with incredible unimagined possibilities..
Digginjim, I don't know if it's Goldsmith's absolute best score. I think there are several of his scores that are so completely different and yet of the same masterly standard that it's impossible to pick one above the others. ST TMP does show off Goldsmith epic/ethnic/electronic/symphonic/avant garde/cerebral/melodic writing so I guess it's kind of a summation of all of his different styles of writing and that's why it's so popular.
His best score is either this, The Final Conflict, or Alien.
Star Trek is his most epic, the grandest of the three. Truly bold and operatic.
The Omen was the "Satanic chant" groundbreaker, and The Final Conflict took this to a more symphonic scale. He gave the instruments greater roles and made everything more opulent.
Alien, though, is the single most disturbing and downright weird score he ever wrote. It is just a naked, twisted, insect-like, ice cold horror soundtrack. Beautiful work.
This is a very "brainy" video. =p
dwinkinney37e 1 month ago
star trek 1 has something the others dont, its actually scary in a mild way
TheDEATHSTARIII 2 months ago in playlist star trek movie soundtracks
As far as I'm concerned, TMP was the most cerebral of the Trek features, and perhaps the boldest in terms idea and the sheer scope of the design.
The music is truly astonishing, and no surprise that it is in the top 25 American AFI movie soundtracks of all time.
Buuuuuutch 7 months ago
@Buuuuuutch Unfortunately ST-TMP isn't in the top 25 AFI film scores, which is pretty inexplicable, unless the AFI were trying to present a certain range of scores instead of picking the best 25. Goldsmith was represented by Chinatown (9) and Planet of the Apes (18). I would have thought Patton would be in the final 25 score list as well as ST-TMP.
Numinous20111 5 months ago
You're absolutely right! I stand corrected... **bows head**
Should be in the top 25!
Buuuuuutch 5 months ago
@Buuuuuutch ST-TMP was in the 250 nominations list for the AFI list. I noticed that no composer got more than 11 nominations, which must have been the maximum allowed, presumably to prevent the list from becoming dominated by any particular group of composers. Amazingly 'Hoosiers' wasn't considered a top 250 American score.
Numinous20111 5 months ago
Also listen to 13a Defenses Down. The blaster beam that comes in at 0:16. . . . . . . . THE VOICE OF V'GER.
darrenholcomb42 1 year ago
Each score in this film depicting various scenes of V'ger is a masterpiece invoking dark moods, layers upon mysterious layers, depths too unfathomable to comprehend. In all, one inconceivable being embodying the overwhelming infinity of the cosmos IN YOUR FACE.. Truly terrifying awe.
darrenholcomb42 1 year ago
A lot of people have a problem with the lengthy visual effects sequences in TMP, but I gotta say... What it is to me is pure art. Its revelling in the dark beauty of the designs. The Enterprise as seen in that picture as it floats over the huge alien vessel.... The visual effects in the film surpase pretty much everything i've ever seen. Some of my earliest nightmares came from those sequences. Being adrift and alone in the depths of some unknown thing.
OpenMawProductions 1 year ago 2
My brother put this movies sound track into my cd player in my car and set it to play this track right when i started the car. The blaster beam sound scared the shit out of me cause he had the volume cranked lol
p244w 1 year ago 3
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sttwn 1 year ago
V.G.E.R!!!!! or is it nomad, hmmmmmmm!!!
kahlesstiberius 1 year ago
To say this music is powerful would be a gross understatement. God only knows how such brilliant music came out of this simple human being.
nostromo38 2 years ago 14
Goldsmith Rules! XD
DaddlerTheDalek 2 years ago 5
Holy frak I love the blaster beam intro to this track...
rumplebunny 2 years ago 4
No he did not -- Jerry's only Oscar was for "The Omen"
jackiescanlon 2 years ago
Indeed he did. Good to know.
katey1dog 2 years ago
But as far as I'm concerned, it was posthumous. For their failure to award him for Patton.
katey1dog 2 years ago
The blaster beam does add an alien aspect to whole motif. He was never affraid to innovate.
KNS1996DFS 2 years ago 2
I agree, this is his best score. Many would say that Planet of the Apes is, but I think that it's just the FIRST of his best and most innovative scores.
hombredejusticia 2 years ago
TMP seems more epic than other Goldsmith scores - and the innovative use of bizarre and alien sounds....
Shame the movie is so flawed...
Digginjim 2 years ago 4
Actually I'm not so sure TMP is as flawed as I suggested... Its scope is ambitious and it avoids the terrible soap opera aspects of DS9 and Voyager...
ST should always be about pushing the human imagination to its limits and dealing with incredible unimagined possibilities..
Digginjim 2 years ago 5
@Digginjim OPINION!! In my opinion, voyager and DS9 were both good in their own way.
arthas19911 6 months ago
I personally think TMP IS his best score, I love Blue Max, but I think I love TMP hands down is his best.
djallfiredup 2 years ago 2
Jerry Goldsmith's best movie score? Discuss...
Digginjim 3 years ago
He did get the OSCAR for Patton.
katey1dog 3 years ago
Goldsmith should have got the Oscar for ST TMP. It was by far the best of the five nominated scores in 1979.
dafmurray 2 years ago 4
He did not get the Oscar for Patton -- nor did he get it for ST:TMP which was shameful!
jackiescanlon 2 years ago
Yes he did.
katey1dog 2 years ago
Digginjim, I don't know if it's Goldsmith's absolute best score. I think there are several of his scores that are so completely different and yet of the same masterly standard that it's impossible to pick one above the others. ST TMP does show off Goldsmith epic/ethnic/electronic/symphonic/avant garde/cerebral/melodic writing so I guess it's kind of a summation of all of his different styles of writing and that's why it's so popular.
dafmurray 2 years ago
Good call, I see your point. I like his score for Total Recall as well and alien is pretty astounding, but come back to this one quite often.
Digginjim 2 years ago
His best score is either this, The Final Conflict, or Alien.
Star Trek is his most epic, the grandest of the three. Truly bold and operatic.
The Omen was the "Satanic chant" groundbreaker, and The Final Conflict took this to a more symphonic scale. He gave the instruments greater roles and made everything more opulent.
Alien, though, is the single most disturbing and downright weird score he ever wrote. It is just a naked, twisted, insect-like, ice cold horror soundtrack. Beautiful work.
MiloDC 2 years ago