Zakir Naik vs William Campbell-Quran and Bible (pt 3 0f 10)

[jmackmaniac]

Many works of art, literature, music, films, plays, and other such things have been influenced by Jesus. The holidays of Christmas and Easter are based on the birth, life, death, and resurrection of Jesus. Most of the world in the last 2,000 years has at least once heard of Jesus. Not everyone, such as people living on islands or in the jungle, but most of the world has heard of Jesus. Who else in the entire history of humanity can compare, influential-wise? None.

[bluebiru143]

@jmackmaniac in the history of the world do they mention jesus exist???

[jmackmaniac]

In what ways has he influenced our world? Millions of churches across the world have been build and carried out in his name, thousands of charities and foundations, hospitals, colleges and universities, many lives have been improved by the teachings of Jesus. The calendar we typically use is based around his birth - BC means Before Christ, AD means Anno Domini. (In the Year of our Lord)

[jmackmaniac]

Scholars have often found the teachings of Jesus to be most wise and astute. At the very least, they hold Jesus in regard as a great teacher. Jesus was only in the public eye for around three and a half years, and is more well-known and influential than even the big three philosophers: Socrates, Aristotle, and Plato. Those three philosophers had around a total of 150 years in the public eye.

[jmackmaniac]

Authors over the past 2000 years have felt compelled to write about Jesus. Writers of the second century for example, Tertullian or even Irenaeus, supported the accounts written by Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John. Many more joined in the support.

[jmackmaniac]

Jesus is the founder of Christianity, which in itself is the fulfillment of Judaism - the final offering has paid for all sins, all we have to do is accept the sacrifice and accept him as Lord and Savior, and we will be saved. Jesus will forever hold the title of the most influential person in history, and will remain so. I trust this entry has shed light on a few things, and that you have gleaned insight from it. May God bless you.

[jmackmaniac]

If we were to take a look at each and every way that Jesus Christ has influenced history, has influenced culture, religion, society, life in general, politics, economics, and what have you, I suppose we would be sitting here for quite a while indeed, for no one man can determine what a major impact Jesus Christ has had upon the lives of billions of people in history - and the effect that he continues to have on us today.

[jmackmaniac]

There is no doubting that Jesus is the most influential person in history. Jesus will continue to fascinate and intrigue the world until the end. Men will try to disprove his existence or even his claims, but we hold these truths to be self-evident. Jesus himself said, "I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." (John 14:6) .

[samnewbeiw]

i dont care wat anyone says about QURAN still these debates are gonna strengthen ma faith

[dabiebzbabe]

The Holy Bible is absolutely in complete conflict with established scientific data. The Glorious Qu'an is however in complete concordance with latest scientific findings. It even anticpates modern discoveries in various fields of science. The Bible is no longer the word of God because of being distorted by its very followers! The Qur'an is the unchanged word of Alllah (swt) and it is protected by the Creator himself, it has not and will not be changed.

[LuluHeeNim]

Muhammad s.w.a DID NOT write Al-Quran...he was illiterate for a reason.. because if he was not illiterate people would say he wrote it himself..but how can he people?

[xdeadromeox]

dr campbell said there is no barrier between the waters in this debate? there is.

here is the proof: /watch?v=q1YhH3QUu00

You can never say Allah is wrong in anything, you're only proving that you do not understand.

[bibleresponse]

Quran:

(Surah-2-the cow-vs-1)

Alif lam Mim. 2- This book, there is no doubt in it, is a guide to those who guard (against evil). 3- Those who believe in the unseen and keep up prayer and spend out of what we have given them. 4- And who believe in the which has been revealed to you and that which was revealed before you and they are sure of the hereafter. 5- These are on a right course from their lord and these it is that shall be successful.

[ajhersi2]

i've found this today and was looking forward to both sides, but damn dr campell reading from papers all the time is really not good manners when it comes to debating and discussion and not boring!

[23tonoy]

o doctor william campbell...i wonder who gave you the title doctor with such poor, selfdriven and biased mentality....to prove a truth false.....

[RippIemagne]

@05lowell05

Except here's the thing. She was 5 when he married her and 9 when he porked her. So, she hadn't even gone through puberty yet.

And second of all, puberty STARTS in the early teen years, yes. But it ENDS in early adulthood, so your argument falls on its face.

And your other argument also falls on its face because it's entirely tu quoque and a false comparison. Whether Jews of the time condemned it or not is irrelevant because it's not advocated in their holy book. Yet is in yours.

[Xshado2]

Clot of blood meaning the egg.... the sperm reacts with a clot of blood? seriously? It was put into those words because at that time they wouldn't believe that the woman had eggs inside her, they had to put it in terms that they would understand

[theonecom]

@hotbanana9000

Ahhh, your only 15, how cute..

[theonecom]

@hotbanana9000

You illiterate fuck, go sniff some more glue

[theonecom]

@hotbanana9000

Cunt

[TheCuppycakedelight5]

Dear Trying tobegood1,

may i present his credentials with respect to you.

1.1968 B.A (philosophy) Covenant College

2.1972 M.Div (theology)Westminster Theological Seminary

3.1989. D.Min (Apologetics) Westminster Theological Seminary

4.1996 D.D. (Islamic studies) Faith theological Seminaries.

well I don't wish to offend you i apologize in advance if i have but i just thought I'd show you.

[TheCuppycakedelight5]

dear ahrs32,. If it is all right with you may i recommend a video by professor Walter veith?

you can watch it on youtube or amazingdiscoveriestv . It's called The Islamic connection, its your choice if you want to , but i do recommend it.God bless

[tryingtobegood1]

I ahve already explained to you that his sources are all garbage, Dr Robert Morey is not a real doctor, why do you still try to show this to people? He never faces any muslims when questioned about his sources, he just writes his books and hides from muslims whjo want to meet him. and Dr Veith does not even have enough knowledge to know that the Crescent Moon is NOT a symbol of Islam. it was the Turkish Ottoman Dysnasty Symbol adopted by them when they took over constantinople

[snowfallzz]

@amasra56. Most of the religions held a peace philosophy as far as I've studied..from Bhuddism monks still in the east who don't fight back to Ghandi's peace movement, to Catholic Mother Theresa's love for the poor to Bhramanisim's hard line on not killing anything to Islam's Sura 2.256 "endure insult and forgive" Christianity's "turn the other cheek." Blame the person/person's not the religion please. few have I seen that taught man to hate or be violent to one another.

[amasra56]

This is what happens when the grown up people try to discuss and prove a point which is baseless and pointless...Religion is the curse of humanity which in its name much violence is being commited by ignorant human beings. Stop being a slave to some dogma created in the Bronze Age and think rationally for yourselves, all of you!

[search4truth11]

to all the patrons here swearing doesnt help.. you insulting yourselves. please refrain from swearing n lets disscuss in civil manner. thanks

[nafogo]

please can any one have this video with arabic translation

[wisemansden]

We have all heard and read about the ancient religion of India. It is the land of the great Vedas, the most remarkable works containing not only religious ideals for a perfect life, but also facts which all the science has since proved true. Electricity, Radium, Electrons, Airships, all seem to be known to the seers who found the Vedas.�

- Mrs. Wheeler Willax

[jdtrickster4]

Add to that, Vimanas (space ships) Smart Weapons, the description of an atom and a light year & the circumference of not only OUR Solar System but EACH PLANET in it and much, much more! The word Vedas translates to KNOWLEDGE or Sacred Lore. They speak of cycles in terms of millions of years and how Humanz have been around since then. Check them out: The Vedas, The Upanishad, The Baghavad Gita! Thank you, Mrs. Wheeler Willax.

[Troofsayer]

In the name of God, Most Gracious, Most Merciful Say: He is Allah, the One and Only! Allah, the Eternal, Absolute; He begetteth not nor is He begotten. And there is none like unto Him.

[swankystraw]

hey look4me25 i dare you to go to saudi arabia and attack (the house that you call) black house in the middle. and come back to me ALIVE. ill give you 45billion dollors if you come back to me and prove it.

[Troofsayer]

faithfreedom asked dr.naik and he said only in public and ali sina replied that he had health issues

[mickalotz]

In public of course! Dr. Zakir Naik is a brave person, and very firm heart.

[omarbinkhattab]

peace,

I've never even heard of Ali Sina. Ali Sina says something without giving any reason at all and you believe it.You say Dr. Naik is a lair without giving any proof. Its because of ur disgusting arrogance and racist ideology. Hatred runs through your blood. You dont even want to watch this video to see who won this debate.Even the bible mocks people like you-

"Deaf, dumb, blind , they will not understand"

[heloizyjhenifer]

Forget the bible and koran, think for yourself, grow up.

[akhtar123]

he speaks the word of the quran no matter what he is, u dont belive in the quran? every thing he says is backed up by the quran. forget how much money hes got listen to what he is saying

[gobbimunch]

Dr. Zakir Naik is eXtreme WAHABI.

Oil Dollar rich Saudi Wahabi/Salafi want to destroy all the Sunni, Shia & Sufi.

Wahabi/Salafi need some clarification from Sunni, Shia & Sufi.

All Sunni,Shia & Sufi unite against Saudi backed Wahabi/Salafi

[hajjiaxmed]

wt does Wahabi mean foo? it looks like you just heard the name and you just mimicing it back but let me tell you Al Wahaab is one of the 99 attrubutes of Allah (sw) and the Man you want to refer to is called Muhammed abul Wahaab... his father is abul Wahaab (slave of al Wahaab).

[thejuni2]

im so sry i accidently gave u a -1... i meant to give it to the poster behind you

[hajjiaxmed]

is cool no prp

[omarbinkhattab]

brother, saudi's are given arms by US to end all shiat elements in the mideast. At the same time US have placed a shiat govt. in iraq and the sunnis are being oppressed. US is using a policy of divide and rule. Its nothing new, Britain has used it against india,in east timor. We muslims are the stupid ones. Theyre setting a trap and we're walking right into it. Look at the state of muslims all over the world. Instead of fighting each other we should realise the real hater.Wake up!

[allahasucker]

If you think he is good.

debate is the  answer.

[omarbinkhattab]

Debate is the ONLY answer.

For any world problem.

[omarbinkhattab]

peace,

i forgot to mention that in a debate there are some codes of conduct to make the debate productive. One of them is not to insult or abuse your opponent. By keeping usernames like yours the debate will be over before it even starts. Your nick not only shows that you hate all muslims, it also shows that you even hate The God. You have instantly become a fuel for terror.

[jdtrickster4]

And Iran is shyte too, like Iraq; while their "ally," Saudi Arabia who is Shawnee, right?

The Bible says the meek shall inherit the earth & some of the meekest people I've run into are Indians from India (Hindu & Hinduism are British inventions, really. Google the British created Hinduism to see)

You'll never hear of a Jain suicide bomber or a bunch of Yoga Masters becoming Mujahideen & going on a Jihad or Crusade against infidels.

The holy books predict a Final War in that area of the world.

[omarbinkhattab]

All religions have bad apples.

It would be irrational to disagree on that.

Search for 'Jarnail singh'

Some say he was a terrorist, others say he was a freedom fighter.

If i was a sikh i would call him a freedom fighter. If i was a hindu i would call him an extremist.

[jdtrickster4]

What Jews & Americans are doing in Palestine & Iraq are war crimes, crimes against humanity & cultural genocide. I'm not blind to the needless & cruel suffering.

I agree there are good & bad apples in religion & everywhere. I believe we should love & respect one another & when we are our brother's keeper, there'll be PEACE on Earth!

We need to stop the violence & be kind to one another. Maybe we need to let the children run the world for a while to give adults time to GROW UP!

PBUY, brother.

[jdtrickster4]

Welcome :)

[Eikinkloster]

I googled the British created Hinduism, and the first hit is a guy explaining they just created the word Hindu + ism. Just like they created Mohammedanism or Islamism. The Hindus call Hinduism Vedanta. Vedanta is as old as civilization. Unlike Islam:

The Syrians created Islam about 2 centuries after the date alledged for Mohammed's death. It's a mosaic of contradictory texts. We have no strong evidence the old pedophile even existed.

[saifking35]

I dont believe you have done enough research on Islam. Islam was not founded by prophet Muhammad nor the Syrians. It is the religion of Adam, Abraham, Moses, Jesus, ect. so it was always around. You cannot name one single verse in the Quran that is condtradictory, for if you are a christian I can name many in the bible. We have hadiths, scriptures, and even people who trace their linage back to the prophets. Please dont call him a pedophile, you have not even studied his life and teachings.

[Eikinkloster]

"I dont believe you have done enough research on Islam."

I could argue the same about yourself. Had you done enough research on your religion, you would note that:

"Islam was not founded by prophet Muhammad nor the Syrians. It is the religion of Adam,

Abraham, Moses, Jesus, ect. so it was always around."

I know the Quran *claims* that do be the case, I have researched that much. I'm claiming

otherwise though. I'm sure you can appreciate the difference.

[saifking35]

Sura 4:11-12 and 4:176, how is that a contradiction? Its explaining totally different situations.I am no where near an expert but I know the syrians could not have created Islam because Islam flourished in Mecca and came to Syria via trades and friendly Ummahs .

[Eikinkloster]

"You cannot name one single verse in the Quran that is condtradictory, for if you are a

christian I can name many in the bible."

You or the Christians can argue against any contradictions claimed against your scriptures. The contradictions, otherwise, can definitely be named. This page goes through various, and also tries to answer Muslim claims of biblical contradictions:

answering-islam*org/Quran/Cont­ra/

[saifking35]

I have been to the website, I couldnt find the contradictions page, but I can come up with very good rebuttals for every claim against Islam that website makes. Please send me the full url so I can attempt to show you.

[Eikinkloster]

Sura 4:11-12 and 4:176 are my personal favorites, which stipulate an inheritance that is either 9/8 or 15/12 of the deceased's estate.

"We have hadiths, scriptures, and even people who trace their linage back to the prophets."

We have Japaneses who trace their lineage back to the goddess Amaterasu. Tracing isn't enough. You gotta test these claims through criticism.

[saifking35]

We have the grave of Prophet Muhammad and still have hadiths. You cant criticize the prophet because there is nothing to criticize about him, he is a human but one of the greatest messengers to ever live.

[Eikinkloster]

"Please dont call him a pedophile, you have not even studied his life and teachings."

I could ask you not to excuse his pedophilia until you have at least studied his life and teachings *from a critical perspective*. I won't, however, because I understand this to be a deeply irrational attitude in a debate.

[saifking35]

I do appreciate your language because it is far more professional than most people on youtube who like to attack my religion without valid justification.

[eziad85]

Are you ignorant or acting like one?

Islam originate in Mecca, Saudi Arabia, where the prophet was born and raise, and where the sacred shrine (the cube) is. What had syria to do with it? The entire quran was revealed over 23 years by mohammed in mecca, before he died.

No evidence he existed? His grave is in Madina, go give it a visit ignorant. Go even open your own encyclopedia about him, or see what people like ghandi said, or go google and put "most influential man"and see what u get!

[Eikinkloster]

"The entire quran was revealed over 23 years by mohammed in mecca, before he died"

Are you English or retarded? Or *course* that's the fairy tale Islamic tradition sells. One doesn't need to be much learned to know that, it's all over the Internet. You gotta poke deeper though to find the schollars questioning it. For once, because Muslims tend to behead those who tell stories they don't agree with. Google "Suliman Bashear" and "thrown from a second-story window by his students" to see.

[roxor1080]

The sura 109 - "The disbelievers" says :

Proclaim, O disbelievers!

Neither do I worship what you worship.

Nor do you worship Whom I worship.

And neither will I ever worship what you worship.

Nor will you worship Whom I worship.

For you is your religion, and for me is mine.

[eziad85]

Go check YOUR encylcopedia then ignorant! Go plug in "most influential man" in google and see what u get.

Do some research then talk. Cause ur the only one who thinks u have brains here..

[Eikinkloster]

"Go plug in "most influential man" in google and see what u get."

Cool. Most hits are for Barak Obama. Your point? Now go and google "Mohammed never existed". Dummass.

[eziad85]

liar .. its muhammad..

barak is the most in 2008...

keep lying to yourself.. u are not going to answer to me anyways.. u will answer to God so say that to him

[Eikinkloster]

"liar .. its muhammad.."

Only the first hit (on a Muslim site) is pointing to Muhammed. There is another (on WikiAnswers) pointing to a lot of people, and concluding for Abraham. All the others are for Barak Obama. Yes, for 2008, but that's the string you yourself gave me, "most influential man", and not "most infuential man in History" (which, by the way, has the one from WikiAnswers pointing to Abraham as the first hit.

[Eikinkloster]

"keep lying to yourself.. u are not going to answer to me anyways.. u will answer to God so say that to him"

I certainly don't answer to you, or to your Moon god. I doubt you will answer to your Moon god Allah either... Allah and Muhammed will be too busy being fucked in the ass in Hell to care for whatever you have to say when you join them.

[Ahrs32]

moon god? are u retarded, u think cause the cresent moon is the muslim symbol , we worship the moon? the quran clearly states not to worship the moon or sun. of coarse a retard like urself wouldnt understand. why dont u go worship the cross and ask a man for forgiveness. thats how pathetic ur religion is.

[Eikinkloster]

"u think cause the cresent moon is the muslim symbol , we worship the moon?"

It's sort of the other way around: Because you used to worship the Moon, the crescent was an Arab religious symbol. Then Muhammad tried to present that old Moon god Al-Ilah as the God of Israel's third attempt of picking a chosen people.

Too bad that third account was just as bogus as the second. God has only one Torah, and has chosen only one people to bear it for the sake of us all.

It's not wise to fight God.

[Ahrs32]

where the hell r u gettin ur info from. muhammad(SAW) never even condoned the cresent moon as the actual symbol of islam. islam is not like other religions, it does not need a symbol to represent it. the reason the moon is the symbol is because it was the symbol of the ottoman empire, and the muslims decided to keep it. i dont kno where ur gettin ur info from.

[LLiimmzz]

Open Your Eyes And Do Research detailed research on the Moon God. And U Will Find The Origin Of Ur Religion. Islam is a religion base on anti christ.

[Ahrs32]

wake up and smell the coffee. ur religion is completely different from what jesus had preached and its obvious. u idiots are primarily following the message of paul not jesus. ur pathetic. thats just sad that u call urselves CHRISTians.

[LLiimmzz]

you have no idea how demonic your religion is your religion confirms the our bible is the truth.. Allah sent the Torah and the gospel (bible) and he said him self it is the truth... even tho we do not believe in your so called allah a pagon god

[Ahrs32]

Wow, you really havent been reading the Qur'an properly. Allah proclaims that he revealed the torah to Moses, and the gospel (injeel not BIBLE) to jesus. The Injeel is the message he delivered to jesus, not ur current day corrupted manuscripts. and like i said before, arab christians and jews worship ALLAH, and the arabic bible uses the name ALLAH more than 17 times on the first page. So i guess youd be worshiping a pagan god too.

[LLiimmzz]

Look Retard The Injeel is The Gou Respel The Gospel Is The Bible Do your research before you came on you tube chating rubish. 1 thing is allah sent the torah and which was his word nd that got corrupted then sent the injeel which was his word again and that got corruapted, doesn't that make him an incompetent God, how can God send his word to the earth knowing it will be corrupted allah supposedly know the futuer so he sent his word know it will be corrupted by men.

[Ahrs32]

no retard, that doesnt make god incompetent, that makes people incompetent. He gives us free will, doesnt he you dumbass. And allah doesnt mean devil u dumass, muhammad(pbuh) made it clear that allah is the one and only creater and god of the jews, christians, and all that exists. By the way, if u were to tell an arab christian or jew that allah meant devil or pagan god, they'd probably kick ur ass considering the name of allah is mentioned numerous times in YOUR ARABIC BIBLE.

[LLiimmzz]

dumb ass "="means equivalent to somthing. i didnt not say allah means devil dumby i'll make it easy for your allah is equilalent to the devil. There are only to options allah sent the torah and the injeel and allah let his word get corrupted by men (what type of God Cant keep his own word not once by twice).

[LLiimmzz]

meaning that allah has let billions of people get decived by the his corrupted word, and you can say allah didnt know this was going to happen because he is ment to know the beginning to the end, and every thing that has happend is destined.

[LLiimmzz]

Allah = devil. arabic jews and christians use allah because that is there up bringing and the arabic language is their 1st language they dont no any better. Allah at this present moment means God in arabic but it was a name of a pagon god in pre islamic times. use your head think logicaly dumb ass

[viktermore]

@Ahrs32 Allah is not name. Allah is word which means God in Arabic.

Name of God is YHVH not Allah

[desiboyh]

actually the moon only became the religious symbol of the muslims at the time of the ottoman empire. They used to put the cresent moon on top of the mosque to show it was under ottoman control. This moon god junk is baseless and has no room in any argument.

[Eikinkloster]

Hubal, the Moon God, was "The God", Al Ilah, which eventually turned into Mohammed's Allah. Source:

Muhammad The Holy Prophet, Hafiz Ghulam Sarwar (Pakistan), p 18-19

[Ahrs32]

ur a fuckin retard. all the arabs at the time of muhammad including christians and jews refered to god as allah. read a book u retard. in fact, if u open up the bible in arabic, the word ALLAH is used like 20 times on the first page. wats ur excuse now dumass.

[jihadulnafs]

@Ahrs32 the moon aint even a symbol of islam. it has nothing to do with islam. people just attch it to islam without any knowledge.

[TurkishMujahid]

@Ahrs32 sister the crescent moon is not the muslim symbol :-) we muslims don't have symbols the crescent moon is actually just an architictual plus some architects use when construction the mosque the crescent moon was first used by the uthmanis (ottomans) to represent there state it started in the 10th century and was used on top of mosque to represent this mosque is from the uthmani's(ottomans) but it is not the muslim symbol of islam :-)

[RippIemagne]

@Ahrs32

At least the figurehead of my religion isn't a pedophile. OH-HO.

[LampPlaceThing]

@Ahrs32 Your insult has not gone unnoticed. I recommend you delete your statement before it harms you, and insults the God which you claim to fallow. I am sorry if anyone was dumb enough to think muslims "worship the moon," or some pagan god.

[RippIemagne]

@LampPlaceThing

You earn my respect.

[lilmisselly57]

@Ahrs32 Brother/ Sister lets not forget that the Qur'an also teaches us to be respectful to other people and religions.

[aztecn22]

@Ahrs32 we don't worship a cross you moron. Your religion may have good points but was started by a peadophile, murderer and rapist you need to simmer down

[cricketssn]

@aztecn22 -- Hi, It shows your mentality/frustation levels, your knowledge and speaking skills, for no muslim is a muslim if he does not believe Jesus (peace be up on him) as one of the prophet sent by Almight Allah.

I would really like to thank that I am not like you, for Islam says to respect others and come to common terms.

Please read and gain knowldege..

Let Allah help you in guiding the right path

[STYLEZFELT]

@Ahrs32 God have mercy on your soul , muhammaad didnt die for me or you and is still burried jesus raised from the dead ... muhammad fulfills not one prophecy ; i like the fact islam blocks your mind out to all the other manuscripts found in the dead sea scrolls with detailed descriptions of the true messiah. all i can say is repent jesus is messiah jesus is lord

[Ahrs32]

@STYLEZFELT blah blah blah blah blah...u kno dam well u want me to burn in hell so no need to say god have mercy on my soul

[STYLEZFELT]

@Ahrs32 if i wanted you to burn i wouldnt encourage you to seek truth YahWeh bless you

[NujatShaheen]

Over 200% of people convert to islam. How many Christians? Not alot, i know.

Take a break from chatting a load of bullshit and what your mouth with soap. Your so narrow minded, you don't know a thing about Islam and see to me chatting shit like you've read it all. Go get a life and think before you talk.

And there's know need to talk bad about our god, because it's all going to come back to you on the day of judgement.

[LLiimmzz]

Open Your Eyes And Do Research detailed research on the Moon God. And U Will Find The Origin Of Ur Religion. and one more thing homosexuality gone up more than 5x in the past few years. so dose this mean we should all be homosexual because of it's recent incresse and popularity.

[Ahrs32]

actually most of the people who convert to Islam were former christians.

[zvirgo]

dude u don't need to google to find that muhammad(pbuh) IS THE MOST INFLUENTIAL PERSON...HE IS THE ONE WHO STARTED THE WORLDS FASTEST GROWING RELIGION!!! HE BROUGHT A DIFF JUDICIAL SYSTEM....A NEW FORM OF GOVERNMENT...HE WAS MORE THAN JUST AN ORDINARY ..I WISH U CLD THINK OUT OF UR NARROW MINDS..

[Eikinkloster]

"HE IS THE ONE WHO STARTED THE WORLDS FASTEST GROWING RELIGION!!!"

Nope. That prize goes to Christianity. Google "fastest growing religion".

"HE BROUGHT A DIFF JUDICIAL SYSTEM....A NEW FORM OF GOVERNMENT..."

That was Thomas Jefferson.

"HE WAS MORE THAN JUST AN ORDINARY"

Nobody argues that. He was an extraordinary murderer, thief, rapist and, last but not least, a PEDOPHILE!!!

"I WISH U CLD THINK OUT OF UR NARROW MINDS.."

Convert to Christianity and cease being "exotic".

[zvirgo]

HOLD ON..WAIT "A murderer Thief, rapist and, last but not least, a PEDOPHILE!!!"

what the hell..do u even know ur history!!!

god damn it ..what the hell is wrong with u i'm sorry but how can u base these illogical accustaions????

plz give me some proof!! and i mean facts not baseless accuSATIONS.....and i know u'll mention hazrat aisha ..but come up with the questions cuz i have the answers....

[RippIemagne]

@zvirgo

Okay. How was him boning Aisha NOT pedophilia?

[saas474]

u westren people are so stupid, u think that u r the elite & others are nothing & that's what will lead most mf u to hell for sure

[SimoDluffy]

You have no proof about muhammad ( Pbuh ) being all these things you said. anyway.

How about the teaching of rape in the bible ? not only rape but how to rape your own sister . Samuel 2:13 Rape of tamar by her Brother Ammon. that's what i call a proof ! i hope you have a reasonnable answer about that & you'll answer me honestly without dodging

[Eikinkloster]

That's 1 Samuel 13:2. It would be teaching how to rape your own sister and then be killed by your own brother. Are you saying that anything the Bible reports the Bible condones? Is Bukhari's Hadith 3.786 teaching how to poison a Mohammed?

[SimoDluffy]

I say that the bible should be Banned for teaching people how to rape their own sisters & you call it '' holy '' nyway The treaty of Hudaybiyya did look like a loss for the Muslims, but however so, Allah plans best, and Allah told the prophet Muhammad it was a victory for him and the Muslims. And what a great victory, within 2 years the prophet Muhammad returned to Makkah, with 10,000 Muslim men, and took Makkah over with ease. The Quraysh gave up without a fight, and most of them accepted Islam

[SimoDluffy]

i'm giving you Proofs from the bible and you're looking to distract me with the hadiths why couldn't you give from the noble Qura'an? ah yes you're watching zakir naik and all your accusations were refuted by proofs! amazing how christians think really ! william cambell failed to answer to the bible mistakes & contradictions why don't you explain to us maybe you have a reasonnable reason .

don't take my comments badly i mean well believe me we're all humans after all

[Eikinkloster]

I feel we're hitting a huge language barrier, but there is not much that can be done about it in these short commentaries, so let's just press on: If 1 Samuel 13:2 teaches how to rape a sister, then Surah 12:19 teaches how to sell a brother as a slave. How about that?

[SimoDluffy]

Lol dear friend , this surah talks about yusuf story and how his brothers '' Unbelievers'' sold him out because they were jealous of him being the most handsome among his them . if you read his story you're gonna enjoy yourself believe me . & i find it a lil bit ridiculous how you call it '' slavery'' & also how you compare slavery with rape ( sister rape ''worse'') if you give the surah to som1 else he's gonna laugh on you , may god bless us all without exeption my dear friend

[Eikinkloster]

Exactly. While 1 Samuel 13 talks about Tamar's story and how her brother *unbeliever* raped her because he was a jackass.

Truste me: Anyone but a Muslim will laugh their brains out from your reasoning.

[SimoDluffy]

No matter how verses i bring you , you'll keep rejecting them &makecomparaisons instead of answering. it is okay no matter how we try to give proofs to each other none will look at them with an open-minded view . But what i don't like is your bad commentaries . and making false accusations . i believe that everyone must respect each other's religion & live in harmony but unfortunately that is impossible as long as you keep think like that . i know dat ur religion is against ur behaviour. peace

[Eikinkloster]

Simo, I answered you already. You ignored me. I told you 1 Samuel 13 doesn't teach how to rape a sister. It REPORTS on how a sister was raped. Maybe you just don't understand enough English to know the difference between *teaching* and *reporting*. Please, ask someone who knows both English and Arabic to explain the difference to you.

[TUBNIT]

Lo, a day shall come for the Lord when the spoils shall be divided in your midst. And I will gather all the nations against Jerusalem for battle: the city shall be taken, houses plundered, WOMEN RAVISHED ; half of the city shall go into exile, but the rest of the people shall not be removed from the city. (Zechariah 14:1-2 NAB) PEACE

[TUBNIT]

(Deuteronomy 22:28-29 NLT) If a man is caught in the act of raping a young woman who is not engaged, he must pay fifty pieces of silver to her father. Then he must marry the young woman because he violated her, and he will never be allowed to divorce her.

make a rape victim marry the attacker :)...

[TUBNIT]

Slaves, obey your earthly masters with deep respect and fear. Serve them sincerely as you would serve Christ. (Ephesians 6:5 NLT) :) When a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod so hard that the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished. If, however, the slave survives for a day or two, he is not to be punished, since the slave is his own property. (Exodus 21:20-21 NAB)

PEACE

[RippIemagne]

@SimoDluffy

The difference being that the verse you cite is a chronicling of rape, but no such endorsing it. In the Qu'ran, Muhammad gives primacy to commit rape. It's one thing to say "Yeah, rape is okay" and it's another to say "Yeah, rape happened."

[toastybunsprod]

@RippIemagne Get a life, or actually study before you talk shit.

[RippIemagne]

@toastybunsprod

You know, it would help to point out where I'm wrong before you make a hollow statement like "study before you talk shit". Nice try though.

[toastybunsprod]

@RippIemagne  Haha, Your stupidity amuses me.

[RippIemagne]

@toastybunsprod

I'll take that as a "I can't refute anything you've said, so I'm going to feign laughter to felate my own ego."

[foonty]

@zvirgo when you kill thousands and threaten them to accept Islam or die.....than that person will be coined most influential

[yoneverknow123]

@foonty

who told you that?

read quran and then state your points

here is a webpage to clear your misunderstanding

islam(.)thetruecall(.)com/modu­les.php?name=News&file=article­&sid=34

[lilmisselly57]

@zvirgo we need to understand them though, they are afraid of different religions cuz they don't know why they believe in theirs....., so they convince themselves that all the other ppl r bad, thats their way of staying a "believer". lets not insult, we need to be respectful and peaceful as muslims and explain nicely. we wont convince anybody by calling them narrow minded.

[RippIemagne]

@zvirgo

You'll have to define "most influential person". Maybe to Muslims, but being that Muslims are not the entire populace, that statement fails.

In no way is Islam the fastest growing. Christianity has more converts than Islam per capita and Zoroastrianism and the Bahai Faith both have higher growth percentage rates.

And Muhammad's governance endorses slavery, pedophilia, murder, and torture.

Definitely not an ordinary person. You can, however, make the case that he was batshit insane.

[STYLEZFELT]

@zvirgo and hitler was also extremely influential doesnt mean anything; what prophecies did muhammad fulfill that he himself didnt prophecy everything this man did was what HE himself said he would do not what any of YahWehs other prophets spoke ...your really gonna believe what he spoke just because he was influential?? what kind of base is that dont ask questions to those who arent willing to give the answers you yourself seek truth

[ferretburger]

It is the missing Surah of Google.

If Google says it , then it must be true.

[Eikinkloster]

"No evidence he existed? His grave is in Madina, go give it a visit ignorant."

Oh that's great. And what evidence of Mahomet's existence will I find in that tomb? An embalmed corpse that gets horny when exposed to 6 year old girls? Because if the evidence amounts to a plaque naming the tomb, I have a tomb for Dead Ctulhu in my garden. It even says Ftangh!

[kingbash7867]

luk at his presentation, nt gud..reading of a peice of paper...luk hes sweating..hes scared..

[omarbinkhattab]

insulting each other will get you nowhere!all monotheistic should sit down and debate kinda like what dr zakir,mr ahmed deedat are doing..

[goodNameNOTgiven]

around the minute 3:23 there is a man who looks like George W. Bush... Lol

[goodNameNOTgiven]

Sorry it is on 3:18

[aymash]

william is an asshole!! big time!

[aionxx]

NO christian has been able to refute this..nor has any steped up to zakir naik. I LOVE IT

[moodie2006]

lol watch the whole debate... Dr Campbell looked like a foolish after Zairk's first presentation... he was so *** ... the best debate ever hehehe... i laughed a lot

[RezaTheBeliever]

LMAO! "If Muhaaamaad meant police officers he would say Police officers, did moohammid say police officers?"

lol whhhaaaat!? Muhammad saying police officers? I dont want to call him retarded because I dont wnat to offend retarded people. At least retards cant control the way they are, this idiot can.

[Bobster2244]

You obviously didn't listen to him. He said that the Koran should only be understood as its original vocabulary and not that of the new textual vocabulary. pretty self explanitory. However, they should be considered idiots for defending either side using science as there premise lol.

[RezaTheBeliever]

You have no idea what he was talking about, dont talk out of your ass bobster22445458494654540546046­045640. lol.

[msisson]

You seem to resort to ad hominem attacks because you cannot refute Bobster2244 or Dr. Campbell.

[Sheikh702]

Obviously you did not watch the whole debate.

[99Sahil00]

Don't feed the troll.

[misko1961]

you are retarded!!!