Yeah great video. I have a hard time when someone finds out that my grabbing game is lacking. I prefer you know for 2 people to go head to head and duke it out and see who wins, but then they grab and I'm like F***. lol. My hardest part is when I have pressure on me and the mix ups with grabs. I'm a rush down Gouken, because Gouken's poking game is lacking so I try to keep them on the defense. Any suggestions on wake ups and handling presser?
I just started learning Gouken today and I really love this character. I notice he can do alot of damage in that corner, but what kind of setups does he have to actually get a hit on someone in the corner?
Something useful: when you do that funny desora pressure with st. mk xx lp hadou on the corner, and the enemy will mash shoryuken, you can do st. mk xx ex demon flip to beat his shoryuken.
Or even st. mk xx lp hadou and then ex demon flip.
mind you that characters like dhalsim have a lot of trouble getting away from that, because they have no reversal.
I just picked up the game, instantly chose Gouken... This video helped me a lot, but Ryu seems to rape me, anyone got any advice for that matchup? (also Yun and Fei, but those two were already addressed)
@MrPolterghost my advice would be to move out of ryu's shoryuken range so he would go for his hadouken meaning u can bypass it and land some hits with the senkugoshoha. but if you do the EX version, you can follow it up with a heavy or medium hadouken and then finish it with and ultra. :)
@GamerGuy800 Thanks a lot. Been taking your advice and it's helping a lot... But another thing, what do you do if you get knocked down, and someone's standing above you charging their focus? (again, I'm very new to the game so there's probably something ridiculously basic that I'm missing... Cause I get hit with this 100% of the time -.-)
@MrPolterghost um well i play as gouken all the time so when someone knocks me down and is charging up their focus, i either jump and then attack OR as soon as you get up do a tatsumaki gorasen. Doin this usually works for me.
@MrPolterghost Ryu has so many variations on his attacks and a solid defence. I usually like to keep him at distance with zoning fireballs as gouken can be stunned quite easily with a series of throws then a strong combo after. Simple combo's work best against Ryu so CLP+CMP+MP/LP Fireball is a sound deterant or even easier CLK+CHK catches most Ryu's out cause they don't see the sweep coming. Other than mix up your demon flip throws/kicks and learn ryu's hitbox combos so you can counter/reverse.
Hey Viper. Great Video However, I just can't get Gouken's basic combo. I know it's Heavy Punch => Hard Senkugoshoha. But I just can't get it to connect. I'd like to think that I'm not retarded, since I can get all of Ken's Dragon Punch combos to hit nicely.
Please help me out, anyone! Thanks! Give me some input tips or whatever.
@davvvvvvvid standing heavy punch -> cancel very fast -> heavy palm. It should work on all characters. But if you use crouch fierce, it may not connect.
@viperRX Thanks for the great tutorial,just learning gouken myself,very helpful,you probably know this but it's not in the tutorial,i found that you can instant air tatsu with gouken by doing the tatsu input then holding up forward and pressing the button as soon as his feet leave the floor,this way you can hit small characters like dan with an air tatsu,please let me know if everyone knows this,thanks.
@viperRX this is great! AND 2012 IS OUT!! GO GO GO!! DO DO DO!! i want my next tut, so i don't have to waist my time learning old combos for the first time.
I use gouken too, but i have trouble doing one of my setups, I do demon flip - grab, and then air tatsu, it does a cross up but I find it extremely difficult to do it quickly, any tips? :/
5:42 when you talking about the Goukens close F.p acting as an anti air it resets the opponent into a standing position which allows you to follow up with the Demon Flip into his Grab. which is what you'd normally do in that situation Because must of the time the opponent can't react fast enough to countering a reset as good as that .
I was destroyed by a Yun player one of this days. He was really good, but with Cammy I could at least give him a run for his money. My Gouken was totally humiliated. Do you have any tips for that match-up?
@TheLegendOfRenegade Soniam x50000000000000000000000000 SoR is soniam, RBO is soniam, THAT SF game you love is SONIAM, I am soniam, Arc Sys are soniam, DarkyDizz aka god is likely soniam and my kids will know of this day and guess what....they will be soniam
most of this wasn't new to me, but that m.p. to hurricane on standing sagat and that if he tries to crouch block he gets hit. I did not know that, that is very helpful to know thank you
@yes4me when your opponent do crouch tech, they will stick a limb out. Then you choose low or mid Kongoshin (reverse dragon punch motion) to counter their crouch tech.
@shinSUREYOUCAN You can't do anything after two standing mp punches. Both mp's will connect but you won't be able to connect anything after that. Gouken is a very strange character with many random things lol. I use the double mp then down mp buffering mk/hk gf for more pressure.
Is the double st.cl.mp timing strict? I never seen anyone use it, I mean it has less pushback than a lp.hadou. It would make a better substitude for the st.cl.mp.lp.hadou(Replace with st.cl.mp), sweep.
i send you a message this week asking for a tutorial! i know that i'm not responsable for this, but i like to think i'm a part of this! thank you man ;)
Very nice video! You covered everything perfectly, thanks for that. I never even thought about using the new tatsu cancel like you did at 16:10 that's an insane amount of block damage haha
I only mention this because I don't see that anyone else has, his name isn't pronounced Guken, It's Go-Ken, sounds like Goku.
acglass 4 days ago
@acglass thanks for informing, I am actually saying it now at the office, haha
viperRX 4 days ago
@viperRX Thank you, your tutorial gave me some great new moves! I'm only sorry I didn't find it earlier.
acglass 3 days ago
Do your 2012 tutorial broo
rollexx 2 weeks ago
impossibru
salafusolleh 1 month ago
Very good tutorial. I just started using Gouken and I learned alot from this video. Thanks alot. :)
xlSilentYurilx 1 month ago
Hey Viper any news on the 2012 update tutorial? Could do with some tips.
dicky75a 1 month ago
@dicky75a I need to play more before I make a good tutorial!
viperRX 1 month ago
The dummy set on Auto Guard?
JamesakaVicious 2 months ago
Yeah great video. I have a hard time when someone finds out that my grabbing game is lacking. I prefer you know for 2 people to go head to head and duke it out and see who wins, but then they grab and I'm like F***. lol. My hardest part is when I have pressure on me and the mix ups with grabs. I'm a rush down Gouken, because Gouken's poking game is lacking so I try to keep them on the defense. Any suggestions on wake ups and handling presser?
sonastus 2 months ago
i like crowse hk
MrBlaziner 2 months ago
sounds like bruce lee reading a srk guide
kumaSOevl 3 months ago
17:12 if the sagat does a kara uppercut or kara tiger knee doesn't it hit?
pspgosucks 3 months ago
Great Tutorial, well worth the time to look. I learnt some new tricks to add to my arsenal and hopefully make me a better player - HERU_X
sebekkha 3 months ago
if only gouken had a DP he would be godlike
d956impala 3 months ago
I just started learning Gouken today and I really love this character. I notice he can do alot of damage in that corner, but what kind of setups does he have to actually get a hit on someone in the corner?
Kelohmello 3 months ago
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Very useful tutorial!
Something useful: when you do that funny desora pressure with st. mk xx lp hadou on the corner, and the enemy will mash shoryuken, you can do st. mk xx ex demon flip to beat his shoryuken.
Or even st. mk xx lp hadou and then ex demon flip.
mind you that characters like dhalsim have a lot of trouble getting away from that, because they have no reversal.
renwolf 4 months ago
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renwolf 4 months ago
No advice in the video on how to deal with pressure or wakeup situations.
Galkatokk 4 months ago
@Galkatokk Good note. I will do one after the 2012 AE edition comes out.
viperRX 4 months ago 2
@viperRX There's another version coming out in 2012?
Ipwnweniwant2 2 months ago
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rollexx 3 weeks ago
I just picked up the game, instantly chose Gouken... This video helped me a lot, but Ryu seems to rape me, anyone got any advice for that matchup? (also Yun and Fei, but those two were already addressed)
MrPolterghost 4 months ago
@MrPolterghost my advice would be to move out of ryu's shoryuken range so he would go for his hadouken meaning u can bypass it and land some hits with the senkugoshoha. but if you do the EX version, you can follow it up with a heavy or medium hadouken and then finish it with and ultra. :)
GamerGuy800 4 months ago
@GamerGuy800 Thanks a lot. Been taking your advice and it's helping a lot... But another thing, what do you do if you get knocked down, and someone's standing above you charging their focus? (again, I'm very new to the game so there's probably something ridiculously basic that I'm missing... Cause I get hit with this 100% of the time -.-)
MrPolterghost 4 months ago
@MrPolterghost um well i play as gouken all the time so when someone knocks me down and is charging up their focus, i either jump and then attack OR as soon as you get up do a tatsumaki gorasen. Doin this usually works for me.
GamerGuy800 4 months ago
@MrPolterghost Ryu has so many variations on his attacks and a solid defence. I usually like to keep him at distance with zoning fireballs as gouken can be stunned quite easily with a series of throws then a strong combo after. Simple combo's work best against Ryu so CLP+CMP+MP/LP Fireball is a sound deterant or even easier CLK+CHK catches most Ryu's out cause they don't see the sweep coming. Other than mix up your demon flip throws/kicks and learn ryu's hitbox combos so you can counter/reverse.
sebekkha 3 months ago
gouken is gona be really good in 2012. thanks for this
sprinter223 5 months ago
Excellent video. A lot of Gouken mains will improve their skills because of this.
MorpheusVGX 5 months ago
Great video, brotha. Thanks for makin' it.
Orpheusftw 6 months ago
superb tutorial. Thanks for that.
1337likethat 6 months ago
Thanks a lot for this vid man... The anti-air bit was useful to me
zalindromefilms 6 months ago
thx
MarkQP 6 months ago
cheers for the vid. winning and sticking with gouken is very rewarding for me and has gained me much respect from friends and enemies alike.
GrieverDividous 6 months ago
Thank you for making this video, I really liked your explanation. I hope you make some more tutorial vids!
beaker4251 6 months ago
1:02 nacho ortiz movement
riomorder 6 months ago
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riomorder 6 months ago
Hey Viper. Great Video However, I just can't get Gouken's basic combo. I know it's Heavy Punch => Hard Senkugoshoha. But I just can't get it to connect. I'd like to think that I'm not retarded, since I can get all of Ken's Dragon Punch combos to hit nicely.
Please help me out, anyone! Thanks! Give me some input tips or whatever.
davvvvvvvid 6 months ago
@davvvvvvvid standing heavy punch -> cancel very fast -> heavy palm. It should work on all characters. But if you use crouch fierce, it may not connect.
viperRX 6 months ago
@viperRX How do you cancel? It's not the same as FADC right? I can't find any information on canceling.
davvvvvvvid 6 months ago
@viperRX Thanks for the great tutorial,just learning gouken myself,very helpful,you probably know this but it's not in the tutorial,i found that you can instant air tatsu with gouken by doing the tatsu input then holding up forward and pressing the button as soon as his feet leave the floor,this way you can hit small characters like dan with an air tatsu,please let me know if everyone knows this,thanks.
neontetra1000 5 months ago
@neontetra1000 Thanks for the input, I am trying this on Xbox later today!
viperRX 4 months ago
@viperRX this is great! AND 2012 IS OUT!! GO GO GO!! DO DO DO!! i want my next tut, so i don't have to waist my time learning old combos for the first time.
MrBlaziner 2 months ago
Great tutorial, thankyou for taking some time out to make this. Very helpfull and much appresiated ;)
taighmikey180 7 months ago
desora24 wow the secon bets gouken
rp1990000 7 months ago
Thanks for the great video :) Well put together and very helpful.
andrewclonkil 7 months ago
really good thx
doudouabdel 7 months ago
I use gouken too, but i have trouble doing one of my setups, I do demon flip - grab, and then air tatsu, it does a cross up but I find it extremely difficult to do it quickly, any tips? :/
101Felipe95 7 months ago
this tutorial is amazing!
Korbidon 7 months ago
I dislike goukens J mp.. after 2 hits he can't connect with anything but J FP or JRH..
unlike other players that have 2 hit J MP and can connect with a wide variety of things..
acidglow 7 months ago
What a beast tutorial. Ty mate.
360M0M0 7 months ago
5:42 when you talking about the Goukens close F.p acting as an anti air it resets the opponent into a standing position which allows you to follow up with the Demon Flip into his Grab. which is what you'd normally do in that situation Because must of the time the opponent can't react fast enough to countering a reset as good as that .
FATALFURYKID 7 months ago
Awesome !!! :)
boat145 7 months ago
I was destroyed by a Yun player one of this days. He was really good, but with Cammy I could at least give him a run for his money. My Gouken was totally humiliated. Do you have any tips for that match-up?
cammyplayer 7 months ago
@cammyplayer I will do a tutorial on Yun/Yang/Fei Long match ups. I really want to gather enough information to do this. I have confidence.
viperRX 7 months ago 4
In SF4 (PC) you almost every single time Ryu-Ken is your opponent..
Man.. thats exhausting .
After Gouken's buff he will have the same fate?!
LargoLaGrande 7 months ago
Thank you sensei, you have unleashed the power of notingness in my gouken.
JGBUSI81 8 months ago
As a casual player, I find this tutorial very helpful. Thank you very much for sharing.
IliyaMoroumetz 8 months ago
What costume pack did you get for Gouken?
HBCult 8 months ago
Who's "Gookin".
SFtheWolf 8 months ago
great job, thank you for your advice! greetings from spain!
masterg0uken 8 months ago
Sweet, sweet tutorial. Very much enjoyed from start to finish. Also, makes me respect Gouken and Gouken players all the more, great job.
Tectondrio 8 months ago
Cool :D
ichigo 8 months ago
Omg its beautiful
TheLegendOfRenegade 8 months ago
@TheLegendOfRenegade Soniam x50000000000000000000000000 SoR is soniam, RBO is soniam, THAT SF game you love is SONIAM, I am soniam, Arc Sys are soniam, DarkyDizz aka god is likely soniam and my kids will know of this day and guess what....they will be soniam
2Chep 8 months ago
great tutorial!! i don't even play Gouken or plan to, but i still found this video very well done and interesting! I miss visiting Hong Kong!!
briansonkun 8 months ago
Good shit. Very helpful to new gouken.
Ha1cyonDays 8 months ago
most of this wasn't new to me, but that m.p. to hurricane on standing sagat and that if he tries to crouch block he gets hit. I did not know that, that is very helpful to know thank you
StreetTrooper 8 months ago
very very nice guide
meatball123d 8 months ago
How do you do a countering crouch tech?
yes4me 8 months ago
@yes4me when your opponent do crouch tech, they will stick a limb out. Then you choose low or mid Kongoshin (reverse dragon punch motion) to counter their crouch tech.
viperRX 8 months ago
I don't use Gouken, but I watched the whole thing and am really impressed. Very nice work.
hanzosteel 8 months ago
good stuff man
u can also do standing mp, low short into tatsu (more range than jab), but its safer to do jab, short palm
dirtythirtypsn 8 months ago
THANK YOU !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
kalucardable 8 months ago
very nice
Realmasterorder 8 months ago
all of us gouken players love the video
MrRIO1984 8 months ago 17
@MrRIO1984 I agree bro, i learned like 4 new things in this vid. Really helpful vid Viper, thank you for taking the time to make this.
SuperRob64x 7 months ago
Thanks ViperRx this video open my eyes to lot of things I dont use.
andredw 8 months ago
Thanks for the vid Viper...very helpfull!!:D
dicky75a 8 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
sub my channel also !!! go goukennnn!!!!!
removeanydoubt 8 months ago
good look on the shout out ....keep puttin down them sick vids homeboy!!! go gouken
its ya boyyyyyy
aka takin flight
removeanydoubt 8 months ago
@removeanydoubt Sure thing man! I learnt from you guys!
viperRX 8 months ago
good look on the shout out ....keep puttin down them sick vids homeboy!!! go gouken
removeanydoubt 8 months ago
It works great but the problem comes from the mashers out there and there's A LOT of those bastards.
@Viper thx for the great video man. A lot of very useful info man. Keep it up. I still hate the lp palm btw lol.
VaeVictus666 8 months ago
@shinSUREYOUCAN You can't do anything after two standing mp punches. Both mp's will connect but you won't be able to connect anything after that. Gouken is a very strange character with many random things lol. I use the double mp then down mp buffering mk/hk gf for more pressure.
VaeVictus666 8 months ago
I love you hahaha very informative thank you very much!
Delfinatorx671 8 months ago
Viper!!! Thanks for the shout out!! IAM
binkyfingers 8 months ago
Good job Viper San
yaukong 8 months ago
Thanks, Viper! Gouken for life!!!
UltimateBeastMachine 8 months ago
Good Stuff Viper. Iam still learning how i can use the new Gouken. Got from 5100 BP to 3900 BP xD... iam really messing up my game xD.
RuLeZ1988 8 months ago
Cool Shit!
KingsRansomFilms 8 months ago
lol @ P.S I hate Yun.
Great vid. Learned a couple of new tricks.
mcfione 8 months ago
Is the double st.cl.mp timing strict? I never seen anyone use it, I mean it has less pushback than a lp.hadou. It would make a better substitude for the st.cl.mp.lp.hadou(Replace with st.cl.mp), sweep.
ShinSUREYOUCAN 8 months ago
Thanks, Viper. I wish you coment new propierities of low palm. :(
MessiOldSnake 8 months ago
you forgot cr or st lp, cl.st.mk, it combos.
ShinSUREYOUCAN 8 months ago
@ShinSUREYOUCAN sure you can ^^
viperRX 8 months ago
@viperRX Oh I see what you did there haha
ShinSUREYOUCAN 8 months ago
You uploaded it nice
YogaFlame24 8 months ago
@YogaFlame24 i compress in DVD quality, 1.1 gb then I can upload. Before, it was 2.6 gb and I failed to upload many times
viperRX 8 months ago
:-D
desora24 8 months ago 31
@desora24 DESORRAAAAAAAAAAA!!!
iverson25allen 8 months ago
@desora24 you know you're popular when it takes 3 symbols to get 20 likes.
Liorren 8 months ago
awesome stuff!!
CarzydogKen 8 months ago
i send you a message this week asking for a tutorial! i know that i'm not responsable for this, but i like to think i'm a part of this! thank you man ;)
fernandolkf 8 months ago
great tutorial thank you
lnformer 8 months ago
great
vmuriel 8 months ago
what fightstick do you use?
TheDeathBed65 8 months ago
@TheDeathBed65 Hori real arcade pro premium ^^
viperRX 8 months ago
Very nice video! You covered everything perfectly, thanks for that. I never even thought about using the new tatsu cancel like you did at 16:10 that's an insane amount of block damage haha
hamps19 8 months ago
like like like like. VERY good video.
Gimpyfish62 8 months ago