I actually think that the 150years doubling rate speaks pretty well of the creationists who made it up. At least they are able to do simple high school maths.
The math he used is the human growth rate of the modern era, then applying it as if it was the same through all of history. I have heard this argument used before, so yeah. They ignore the mortality and growth rate changes based on technological advancements.
Perhaps people just don't like the truth. They don't want to see their ancestors or parents as liars. Evidence may be all around them, but ignorance is bliss. Or, theoretically, they may be right. Who knows really! We can only really choose to believe what we can see or what we want to see. Let them have their joy. I'll take mine with sides of science and uncertainty and a heaping portion of the visible.
@phil4508 “Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. Ideas must be distinct before reason can act upon them; and no man ever had a distinct idea of the trinity. It is the mere Abracadabra of the mountebanks calling themselves the priests of Jesus.”
@phil4508 My argument not changing your thinking is not indicative that is is invalid, which is what you posited by using the word "ergo." My answer will not change your thinking because of who you are and what you believe, but that in no way indicated its lack of validity.
This video will continue to win the Internets for the remainder of the century. 0:51-0:53 continues to make me laugh out loud, although I now know not to have liquids in my mouth while watching it. Potholer, your combination of debunking abilities and humor is one of a kind. Please continue to use your superpowers for good or for awesome going forward!
3:30 - potholer's responses here remind me of Eddie Murphy in the first Beverly Hills Cop film. I recall Eddie Murphy exclaiming "Get the fuck outta here!" in disbelief when hearing what price a particularly odd art piece commanded and that it was actually sold. Love it.
It's also entertaining to take Creationist numbers and apply them to the Bible. If we start with 8 people and double it every 150 years, then we can confidently state that the world's total population at the time of the Exodus was about 512. (If we're really really generous and assume the later date for the Exodus, this could be as many as a thousand.)
TruthfulChristian is going to talk about mathematical formulas AND mathematics?!?! Stop the fucking presses! HOLY SHIT MATH AND MATH AT THE SAME TIME?!?
Does he also talk about water AND liquid dihydrogen oxyde? Or air and breathable atmosphere?!
I NEED TO KNOW!
(okay, totally unfair, he could have simply misspoken, but if it's difficult to understand and a difficult video to make, you'd expect a bit more care in making it like -not allowing silly errors to creep in-)
@IreapsI Its a futile debate, but I dissagree on all evolutionary beliefs. Its not science, its a belief first. That 'science' is made to fit the belief. If science has no bias I am interested. I have no personal belief in evolution because I have observed science and studied both sides. To just use logic alone, I fiercely dissagree with evolutionary teaching. I also dispute the strength of their so called "evidence".
@jiminiflix you idiotic, retarded, ignorant prick. how on earth are you discarding evolution based on the lack or strength of evidence? Nothing humanity has ever found (with supporting evidence, not beliefs), supports creationism. Every piece of evidence supports evolution. True, the picture is not complete and there are pieces of the puzzle missing, but then again, you will not deny electricity just because you don't fully understand it would you?
@apollotm Do you understand meiosis?An offspring recieves half of its chromosomes from one parent and half from another. Because of this an offspring has exactly the same amount of chromosomes as his or her parents. No exceptions.Human beings have 46 chromosomes (13 from each parent), whereas apes and chimpanzees have 48.Tell me how apes could evolve into humans, losing two whole chromosomes in the process? According to the rules of meiosis, that's absolutely impossible.
@jiminiflix if you would actually search the literature about this you would find the answer, but why bother when just guessing is easier right? First of all, you cannot say for sure that a theory believed to be true is absolute. This is what we know until now, many theories in the past have been changed or even discarded with new findings. Also, we did not evolve from chimpanzees, rather us and the chimpanzees have a common ancestor.
@jiminiflix also, what we know about meiosis is, as the word "know" states, what we know until now. Doesn't mean it's the absolute truth. Evidence may come to irrefutably change the theory. What we know is what we observed in the short life span science has been around. Compare that with the millions of years of evolution that left no biological trace, and you can see how we might not see the big picture. What is believed until now is that chromosomes can fuse under certain conditions.
« Human beings have 46 chromosomes (13 from each parent), whereas apes and chimpanzees have 48 »
And human chromosome #2 corresponds closely, content-wise, to ape chromosomes #2 and #13, and has an extra centromere and intrachromosomal telomeric regions. Bye now.
@MrGralgrathor Any similarity between any living creature supports "common designer" a major part of creation. Population numbers support the creation model, they go back to Noah 4400 years ago. Mitachondrial DNA goes back 6500 years. There is NO evidence that any human lived 100,000 years ago, no written records, no sccience, nothing. Just that evolutionists want to believe it.
But we're not merely talking similarities. We're talking nested hierarchies: patterns of similarities AND differences.
Why, for instance, would a designer incorporate imperfections in genes and pseudogenes into various lifeforms in such a way that they follow a tree of nested hierarchies?
No they don't. There's not a single lifeform on Earth that follows Malthusian growth curves, including humans. Up until recently, human population growth was severely limited by child mortality, famine, poverty. Only with the advent of modern medicine did population numbers begin to grow at a rate approaching what you would need. But you would have needed the same rate starting from 4000 years ago.
@warriorprince1010 you really are dumb! how on earth would similarity between species support creation? It's quite the opposite mate. If species evolved from other species, you would expect the ones branching from a particular one to have similarities. Whereas if they were created by an all-powerful being, nothing would stop him from going nuts and make every specie different. For example, if you were a kid again, you would prefer many different toys, not a bunch that are very similar.
@apollotm "nothing would stop him from going nuts and make every specie different."......the words of a loon. Every single living creature is both different and similar. That is the way God intented it to be. Yes similarity is evidence for common designer.
@warriorprince1010 impossible .... impossible you people like you to understand logic. I guess if you are really that thick to believe all this nonsense, everything looks like evidence to you, every coincidence ... if a bird shits in your head an you think that god is sending you a message that you did something wrong. If you can't explain something, it's evidence of a designer. If you do, its an evidence of god because you thing. You will always find a loophole to cling to this useless belief!
@warriorprince1010 Funny how you repeat yourself in retarded ways. Your argument is invalid. You say that if God designed creatures they will all have the same materials.YOU TWAT, IF CREATURES EVOLVED, THE SAME WOULD APPLY!! It's like saying "if God made creatures, they would all have a color". It's a retarded argument in the same way as your, as in either case, they would still all have a color. You also see no point or sens in what I said before, you're missing logic big times. No surprise...
They wouldn't, however, have the same damage from the same diseases in the exact same spots--which we DO see in creatures. Your position is like claiming that when we catch a guy who looks just like our murder suspect, has the same fingerprints and the exact same scars, that's just because he was DESIGNED to look like the murderer.
@warriorprince1010 What makes you say that? What about God implies to you that if he had made everything, that everything would be comprised of the same basic materials? Why wouldn't creatures be comprised of different materials if they had all been created seperately, presumably for different purposes? Is there something about the nature of God that says that he must create from a basic set of materials?
@warriorprince1010 Fair enough. My only concern is that the bible is very general and quite vague in it's descriptions of events, and often times cryptic in it's language, where as science is very detailed and descript in it's accounts. Do you not think that perhaps you are using science, in all it's detail and descriptive power to explain away the vagueness of the bible. Not to be disrespectful, but I think you use science as an excuse for the bible, fitting facts into a pre drawn conclusion.
@warriorprince1010 That's my point, it doesn't ever really touch on science, if it did, you could predict future scientific discoveries using the bible. It's only ever said that the bible contains insights into science after science has made the discovery, it only works in hind sight, it has no predictive powers. To me, it's much like the predictions of Nostradamos or atrologers, it's vague enough that it can be made to fit almost any person or event. Would you agree?
@warriorprince1010 Would you say that the claim that living things reproduce constantly, and that each time they reporduce there is subtle variation is false? If so, why?
Please understand that I am not trying to insult you, but understand your position and why you've taken it.
@warriorprince1010 Therefore Homo sapiens and Pan paniscus, both of which are members of the family hominidae, are the same 'kind' according to the Bible? As far as I'm aware, 'kinds', according to the Bible, are groupings of creatures that can 'bring forth’ young. Humans, Bonobos and Orang-utans are not capable of interbreeding and sharing offspring, so I don't believe your definition is particularly accurate here.
@jiminiflix the only "evidence" creationism has ever had is the holes in our understanding (i.e. we don't understand how something works, therefore obviously a divine entity has created it), or lies/misunderstandings as Potholer clearly shows in his debunking videos.
@jiminiflix if you argue something/someone is wrong, bring evidence to support your claim. Just saying it because it;s you belief has no value or credibility. And newsflash, the bible is not evidence. Not one story from the bible has ever been proven. If you say it did, link to the evidence, not just say id has been proven. And also, if something has not been disproved, it doesn't automatically mean it's true!
@jiminiflix you mean the type of debate that questions faith? would you rather have us all accept creation as the absolute truth and do not search for answers? I know it's easier than research, but do you think is smart taking stories found in a book that has no proof of who wrote it and no historical support, as facts? I don't think scientist try to prove creation is wrong. They were just curious about the world and at some point, the evidence that it's wrong was just overwhelming.
I want to thank you for your patience. I find the debunking interesting, but don't usually have the patience to listen to the entire videos put out by the creationists. Out of curiosity, have you seen the ones about how the spin of the earth is slowing down?
Science is just the way God does things. Just because we begin to understand it doesnt mean there is no God. Bottom line is either God or chance. Is up to you what you want to believe. I believe in science. Science is the work of God. Understanding science brings you closer to God.
@myredeemerlives09 that website fails on every page. I If you read this before you read the one it's responding to don't bother visiting. unless you like mindless drivel spewed on every page.
I once saw a wonderful Australian newspaper sketch dated around 1905 depicting a man (I think he was eating something forbidden) who was taller than some old wowser remonstrating, protesting, complaining, rebuking & (no doubt also) reprimanding him as those (basically) schizophrenic corner preachers tend to do. But it was the gesture that made the sketch so memorable. As he smiles and ignors him he simply holds him at bay with an upturned palm. The message I think was "Just ignor them". Ditto.
@listen2meokidoki And my message is, THEY WILL NEVER GO AWAY. So we shall defend our island of rationality, whatever the cost may be. We shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills and on the Internet; we shall never surrender!
It was 75 degrees here yesterday. It's 80 today. By this time next year, it will clearly be OVER 1500 DEGREES!!! Invest in sunblock and oscillating fans.
@GoblinXXX Not only that, but less than 3 months ago the temperature was BELOW ABSOLUTE ZERO!! We couldn't have been around for longer than that or we'd all freeze solid.
@MrMaster90 That's REALLY young earth creationism, right there. Obviously, the Good Lord made it LOOK like the world was more than 3 months old, and Satan has planted all these false records of history to test our faith!
@GoblinXXX Mother nature? On the TV news recently I heard a public appeal from the Pope or Canterbury asking people to not BLAME GOD for all the recent disasters. OK. We should start with Insurance policies not referring to Acts of God. But I think of MOTHER Nature as a beautiful caring Woman. So I'd object to Acts of Mother Nature. Which leave the DEVIL. So why don't Christians blame disasters on Acts of the Devil? Because they know God gets really angry enough to account for everything!
you shouldn't be so hard on creationist. their address isn't futile, it is for entertainment and the realization of human knowledge, and to be able to distinguish the difference. love your videos.
so the problem is: you could have presented accurate inferred results of historic magnetic field strength (field orientations trapped in solidifying lava) to show the magnetic field wasnt as strong as a linear extrapolation of a short term measurement today would suggest to some creationist ranter on the internet.. if the extrapolation were correct (which it isnt) the energy associated with the geodynamo of the resulting strength could have had devastating results...
i know.. i know it is hard and time consuming to produce good and error free videos, and you make a pretty decent job with it (otherwise i wouldnt bother watching them)
but i think you can do better.. yeah it is fun to put live act skits in for some comic relief but:
magnetic fields interact with matter and contain energy which can be extracted by those said interactions.. or the other way around fed into the magnetic field..
Your vid was funny and logic but do not forget one thing: those foolish creationist individuals are not the official ambassadors or lawyers of the Supreme. You can refute them easily but not Him...
By looking at the population of Amish in the world i can conclude that the world was created last tuesday, for otherwise, all the Amish would have laptops.
Even without the added hilarity of creationists claims your videos are among some of the most entertaining and educational on YouTube. It's about time you moved into mainstream television. Thank you.
With regards to the magnetism comments, if the field was strong and decaying, the rate of change of the field would cause heating. however, the field would have to be millions of times stronger than it currently is for this to be true in any significant way.
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By looking at the global rabbit population I have concluded that the earth can't be more that 10 years old, otherwise the whole world would have been covered in rabbis a few miles deep.
@siener Did you know that at the rate bacteria replicate themselves would have replaced the entire volume of the Earth with in less in 3 years. Why doesn't this happen? Because limited resources prevent too much replication so if the population got too high, too many organisms would starve. Same thing with humans.
So IF EVOLUTION IS TRUE, we would mate so much and have so many children that we would stack ourselves out into space, creating a giant planet made out of humans on top eachother, eventually filling up the universe. ..........Are these people on meth?
All the matter in humans must come from the earth. The mass of the earth is 5.9742 * 10^24 kg. From some random website I just googled, it says the average weight of a man is 189.8 pounds (who knows/cares if this is for the whole world - I seriously doubt it) = 86 kg. So if we converted the entire earth into humans, we could have at most 6.9 * 10^22 humans.
I actually think that the 150years doubling rate speaks pretty well of the creationists who made it up. At least they are able to do simple high school maths.
Thetarget1 1 day ago
The math he used is the human growth rate of the modern era, then applying it as if it was the same through all of history. I have heard this argument used before, so yeah. They ignore the mortality and growth rate changes based on technological advancements.
KittenKoder 6 days ago
"Get the fuck out of here!" Brilliant!
customerjon 1 week ago
I'm worried that Mr. Crone is actually under the impression that scientists think there is such a time as "20 billion years ago"
ecuasxaz 2 weeks ago
The Billy Crone segment is possibly the best Potholer bit since "Oi, 'ovind! We can't carbon date this; there's no *beep*ing carbon in it!"
DrThunder88 1 month ago 3
When I was a kid there was about 4 billion people on the earth.
Today we are over 7 billion. Almost twice as many.
Therefore I am almost 150 years old.
Yownas73 1 month ago
Perhaps people just don't like the truth. They don't want to see their ancestors or parents as liars. Evidence may be all around them, but ignorance is bliss. Or, theoretically, they may be right. Who knows really! We can only really choose to believe what we can see or what we want to see. Let them have their joy. I'll take mine with sides of science and uncertainty and a heaping portion of the visible.
RandomJalPal 1 month ago
one looses credibility by making fun of someone else's ideas...support your own...and let it go at that...
phil4508 1 month ago
@phil4508 “Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. Ideas must be distinct before reason can act upon them; and no man ever had a distinct idea of the trinity. It is the mere Abracadabra of the mountebanks calling themselves the priests of Jesus.”
― Thomas Jefferson
Juxtaroberto 1 month ago
@Juxtaroberto I appreciate your answer...but it will not change my thinking...ergo...your argument...is invalid...sumi masen...
phil4508 1 month ago
@phil4508 My argument not changing your thinking is not indicative that is is invalid, which is what you posited by using the word "ergo." My answer will not change your thinking because of who you are and what you believe, but that in no way indicated its lack of validity.
Juxtaroberto 1 month ago
there are better ways of making your point..
phil4508 2 months ago
@phil4508 Like how, and why?
BigLundi 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
This is blooedy brilliant mate. I wish there were more videos on your channels! :D
geyza0711 2 months ago
Soooo yeah. XD
Anuojat 2 months ago
you should go after your opponent's strongest not weakest arguments if you want to make an impression
celal777 3 months ago
@celal777 Like what? He's gone after a lot of different young earth creationist arguments...which ones do you think are the strongest?
BigLundi 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
So Adam and Eve waited 150 years before having children? Really?
Astillion 3 months ago
This video will continue to win the Internets for the remainder of the century. 0:51-0:53 continues to make me laugh out loud, although I now know not to have liquids in my mouth while watching it. Potholer, your combination of debunking abilities and humor is one of a kind. Please continue to use your superpowers for good or for awesome going forward!
DogBoots77 3 months ago
HAHAHAHAHA !!! I can't stop laughing.
That "get the fuck outta here" made me spit on my monitor so bad (from laughter) :D!
I love the way Potholer bashes these ridiculous bullshit spouting idiots.
Best part is at 1:35 - 1:50
Good work, Peter, definitely one of the most entertaining debunk videos so far. Keep bowling them over, sir.
I salute you!
mancamiatipoola 3 months ago 18
3:30 - potholer's responses here remind me of Eddie Murphy in the first Beverly Hills Cop film. I recall Eddie Murphy exclaiming "Get the fuck outta here!" in disbelief when hearing what price a particularly odd art piece commanded and that it was actually sold. Love it.
LawngCat 3 months ago
richard simmons is a population expert?!
MrSystematica 3 months ago
"Original number..." UGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHhhhhh XD
When i was 6 years old i used to laugh at people who told me there were still creationists around us... :P
Anuojat 4 months ago
It's also entertaining to take Creationist numbers and apply them to the Bible. If we start with 8 people and double it every 150 years, then we can confidently state that the world's total population at the time of the Exodus was about 512. (If we're really really generous and assume the later date for the Exodus, this could be as many as a thousand.)
That's a mighty small Exodus!
brpierce 4 months ago
''Getthefuckouttahere!''
Wasserrauschen 4 months ago
ok i'll stop the video if i-lemme stop you there
viking977 4 months ago
Lmao at Billy Crone with the bowl of Froot Loops, talking fast and making googly eyes.
tekbarrier 5 months ago
TruthfulChristian is going to talk about mathematical formulas AND mathematics?!?! Stop the fucking presses! HOLY SHIT MATH AND MATH AT THE SAME TIME?!?
Does he also talk about water AND liquid dihydrogen oxyde? Or air and breathable atmosphere?!
I NEED TO KNOW!
(okay, totally unfair, he could have simply misspoken, but if it's difficult to understand and a difficult video to make, you'd expect a bit more care in making it like -not allowing silly errors to creep in-)
EdwardHowton 5 months ago
I don't respect this type of scientific debate. Potholer, the way you speak makes my skin crawl.
jiminiflix 5 months ago
@jiminiflix Whats wrong with the speaking. Its very clear TBH.
IreapsI 5 months ago
@IreapsI Potholer is wrong and extremely smug about his point of view.
jiminiflix 5 months ago
@jiminiflix What points do you contest are wrong?
IreapsI 5 months ago
@IreapsI Its a futile debate, but I dissagree on all evolutionary beliefs. Its not science, its a belief first. That 'science' is made to fit the belief. If science has no bias I am interested. I have no personal belief in evolution because I have observed science and studied both sides. To just use logic alone, I fiercely dissagree with evolutionary teaching. I also dispute the strength of their so called "evidence".
jiminiflix 5 months ago
@jiminiflix you idiotic, retarded, ignorant prick. how on earth are you discarding evolution based on the lack or strength of evidence? Nothing humanity has ever found (with supporting evidence, not beliefs), supports creationism. Every piece of evidence supports evolution. True, the picture is not complete and there are pieces of the puzzle missing, but then again, you will not deny electricity just because you don't fully understand it would you?
apollotm 5 months ago
@apollotm Do you understand meiosis?An offspring recieves half of its chromosomes from one parent and half from another. Because of this an offspring has exactly the same amount of chromosomes as his or her parents. No exceptions.Human beings have 46 chromosomes (13 from each parent), whereas apes and chimpanzees have 48.Tell me how apes could evolve into humans, losing two whole chromosomes in the process? According to the rules of meiosis, that's absolutely impossible.
jiminiflix 5 months ago
@jiminiflix if you would actually search the literature about this you would find the answer, but why bother when just guessing is easier right? First of all, you cannot say for sure that a theory believed to be true is absolute. This is what we know until now, many theories in the past have been changed or even discarded with new findings. Also, we did not evolve from chimpanzees, rather us and the chimpanzees have a common ancestor.
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apollotm 5 months ago
@jiminiflix also, what we know about meiosis is, as the word "know" states, what we know until now. Doesn't mean it's the absolute truth. Evidence may come to irrefutably change the theory. What we know is what we observed in the short life span science has been around. Compare that with the millions of years of evolution that left no biological trace, and you can see how we might not see the big picture. What is believed until now is that chromosomes can fuse under certain conditions.
apollotm 5 months ago
« Human beings have 46 chromosomes (13 from each parent), whereas apes and chimpanzees have 48 »
And human chromosome #2 corresponds closely, content-wise, to ape chromosomes #2 and #13, and has an extra centromere and intrachromosomal telomeric regions. Bye now.
MrGralgrathor 5 months ago 2
@MrGralgrathor Any similarity between any living creature supports "common designer" a major part of creation. Population numbers support the creation model, they go back to Noah 4400 years ago. Mitachondrial DNA goes back 6500 years. There is NO evidence that any human lived 100,000 years ago, no written records, no sccience, nothing. Just that evolutionists want to believe it.
warriorprince1010 5 months ago
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« Any similarity »
But we're not merely talking similarities. We're talking nested hierarchies: patterns of similarities AND differences.
Why, for instance, would a designer incorporate imperfections in genes and pseudogenes into various lifeforms in such a way that they follow a tree of nested hierarchies?
XGralgrathor 5 months ago
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« Population numbers support the creation model »
No they don't. There's not a single lifeform on Earth that follows Malthusian growth curves, including humans. Up until recently, human population growth was severely limited by child mortality, famine, poverty. Only with the advent of modern medicine did population numbers begin to grow at a rate approaching what you would need. But you would have needed the same rate starting from 4000 years ago.
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« Mitachondrial DNA goes back 6500 years. »
Nope. The common mtDNA ancestor dates back to about 200.000 years ago. The common Y-chromosomal ancestor between 150.000 and 60.000 years.
XGralgrathor 5 months ago
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« There is NO evidence that any human lived 100,000 years ago »
Except for the many fossil remains, the archaeological finds, the genetic data.
XGralgrathor 5 months ago
@warriorprince1010 you really are dumb! how on earth would similarity between species support creation? It's quite the opposite mate. If species evolved from other species, you would expect the ones branching from a particular one to have similarities. Whereas if they were created by an all-powerful being, nothing would stop him from going nuts and make every specie different. For example, if you were a kid again, you would prefer many different toys, not a bunch that are very similar.
apollotm 5 months ago
@apollotm "nothing would stop him from going nuts and make every specie different."......the words of a loon. Every single living creature is both different and similar. That is the way God intented it to be. Yes similarity is evidence for common designer.
warriorprince1010 5 months ago
@warriorprince1010 impossible .... impossible you people like you to understand logic. I guess if you are really that thick to believe all this nonsense, everything looks like evidence to you, every coincidence ... if a bird shits in your head an you think that god is sending you a message that you did something wrong. If you can't explain something, it's evidence of a designer. If you do, its an evidence of god because you thing. You will always find a loophole to cling to this useless belief!
apollotm 5 months ago
@apollotm Rambling nonsense, you made no points and made no sense. You are an idiot.
If God designed creatures they would all have the same basic materials, put togetehr in fantastic ways. That is what we see.
warriorprince1010 5 months ago
@warriorprince1010 Funny how you repeat yourself in retarded ways. Your argument is invalid. You say that if God designed creatures they will all have the same materials.YOU TWAT, IF CREATURES EVOLVED, THE SAME WOULD APPLY!! It's like saying "if God made creatures, they would all have a color". It's a retarded argument in the same way as your, as in either case, they would still all have a color. You also see no point or sens in what I said before, you're missing logic big times. No surprise...
apollotm 5 months ago
@warriorprince1010
They wouldn't, however, have the same damage from the same diseases in the exact same spots--which we DO see in creatures. Your position is like claiming that when we catch a guy who looks just like our murder suspect, has the same fingerprints and the exact same scars, that's just because he was DESIGNED to look like the murderer.
brpierce 4 months ago
@warriorprince1010 What makes you say that? What about God implies to you that if he had made everything, that everything would be comprised of the same basic materials? Why wouldn't creatures be comprised of different materials if they had all been created seperately, presumably for different purposes? Is there something about the nature of God that says that he must create from a basic set of materials?
KidShoryuken 3 months ago
@KidShoryuken The bible says it, science supports it, I accept it.
warriorprince1010 3 months ago
@warriorprince1010 Fair enough. My only concern is that the bible is very general and quite vague in it's descriptions of events, and often times cryptic in it's language, where as science is very detailed and descript in it's accounts. Do you not think that perhaps you are using science, in all it's detail and descriptive power to explain away the vagueness of the bible. Not to be disrespectful, but I think you use science as an excuse for the bible, fitting facts into a pre drawn conclusion.
KidShoryuken 3 months ago
@KidShoryuken The bible is not a science book, but when it touches on science it is always right.
warriorprince1010 3 months ago
@warriorprince1010 That's my point, it doesn't ever really touch on science, if it did, you could predict future scientific discoveries using the bible. It's only ever said that the bible contains insights into science after science has made the discovery, it only works in hind sight, it has no predictive powers. To me, it's much like the predictions of Nostradamos or atrologers, it's vague enough that it can be made to fit almost any person or event. Would you agree?
KidShoryuken 3 months ago
@KidShoryuken Evolutionism has not predicted or proven anything. Just mere claims.
warriorprince1010 3 months ago
@warriorprince1010 Would you say that the claim that living things reproduce constantly, and that each time they reporduce there is subtle variation is false? If so, why?
Please understand that I am not trying to insult you, but understand your position and why you've taken it.
KidShoryuken 3 months ago
@KidShoryuken Variety of kinds is what the bible says. Science supports this. Kinds is known as Families today in taxonomy.
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FactThis 3 months ago
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@warriorprince1010 Therefore Homo sapiens and Pan paniscus, both of which are members of the family hominidae, are the same 'kind' according to the Bible? As far as I'm aware, 'kinds', according to the Bible, are groupings of creatures that can 'bring forth’ young. Humans, Bonobos and Orang-utans are not capable of interbreeding and sharing offspring, so I don't believe your definition is particularly accurate here.
FactThis 3 months ago
@jiminiflix the only "evidence" creationism has ever had is the holes in our understanding (i.e. we don't understand how something works, therefore obviously a divine entity has created it), or lies/misunderstandings as Potholer clearly shows in his debunking videos.
apollotm 5 months ago
@jiminiflix if you argue something/someone is wrong, bring evidence to support your claim. Just saying it because it;s you belief has no value or credibility. And newsflash, the bible is not evidence. Not one story from the bible has ever been proven. If you say it did, link to the evidence, not just say id has been proven. And also, if something has not been disproved, it doesn't automatically mean it's true!
apollotm 5 months ago
@jiminiflix you mean the type of debate that questions faith? would you rather have us all accept creation as the absolute truth and do not search for answers? I know it's easier than research, but do you think is smart taking stories found in a book that has no proof of who wrote it and no historical support, as facts? I don't think scientist try to prove creation is wrong. They were just curious about the world and at some point, the evidence that it's wrong was just overwhelming.
apollotm 5 months ago
I want to thank you for your patience. I find the debunking interesting, but don't usually have the patience to listen to the entire videos put out by the creationists. Out of curiosity, have you seen the ones about how the spin of the earth is slowing down?
slocal75 6 months ago
"just 41,000 years ago"
"Did you say a million?!"
Love it.
InCa861 6 months ago
"So if you don't understand mathematics, don't watch this video."
"...Okay. Next."
I loled
thieflord555 6 months ago
@125689 Not according to creationists
pochopaz7381 6 months ago
Science is just the way God does things. Just because we begin to understand it doesnt mean there is no God. Bottom line is either God or chance. Is up to you what you want to believe. I believe in science. Science is the work of God. Understanding science brings you closer to God.
125689cc 6 months ago
this is the funniest video since the "There is not &#$#cking carbon in it!!"
shadowmax889 6 months ago
Crone is the Tony Little of creationism!
SpaceOdyssey56 7 months ago
w,ww.bible.ca
myredeemerlives09 7 months ago
@myredeemerlives09 that website fails on every page. I If you read this before you read the one it's responding to don't bother visiting. unless you like mindless drivel spewed on every page.
satanisthetruegod666 7 months ago
That frootloops picture of Crone is freaking GREAT! :'-)
saxoman1 7 months ago
*choking on my drink*
"I got this number from a friend of mine at the fitness club in my local area."
Huh? what????
I must say you can't get more scientific than that.
I'm overwhelmed by the accumulated dumbness.
*goes to get an aspirin before seeing the rest of this video*
AthenaSchroedinger 8 months ago 27
@AthenaSchroedinger you'd need something stronger, jet fuel might do the trick. But i think you are right, can't get more scientific xD
linkuei83 2 weeks ago
This is one of the best videos ever
roadkill1001 8 months ago
"Shut the fuck up"! Thanks Potholer...thanks to you i'm now cleaning up pasta and sauce from my screen and keyboard....
juuonse 8 months ago
I watched this and I did not understand the math lol ill keep learning though
kysmelmonge 8 months ago
Why the hell is Billy Crone yelling like some infomercial host?
Akira625 9 months ago
getthefuckoutofhere!
HorridDreams 9 months ago
I once saw a wonderful Australian newspaper sketch dated around 1905 depicting a man (I think he was eating something forbidden) who was taller than some old wowser remonstrating, protesting, complaining, rebuking & (no doubt also) reprimanding him as those (basically) schizophrenic corner preachers tend to do. But it was the gesture that made the sketch so memorable. As he smiles and ignors him he simply holds him at bay with an upturned palm. The message I think was "Just ignor them". Ditto.
listen2meokidoki 10 months ago
@listen2meokidoki And my message is, THEY WILL NEVER GO AWAY. So we shall defend our island of rationality, whatever the cost may be. We shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills and on the Internet; we shall never surrender!
listen2meokidoki 10 months ago
The math is easy. Bullshit + His ass=shit he pulled out of his ass. That's how he got his answer @3:26.
mistereveready 10 months ago
every time i watch one of your videos i picture pat condell...
GodsArePeopleToo 10 months ago
If you don't understand math, don't make the freaking video!! Argh!!
MackanK94 11 months ago
Potholer54 is a Leg End... :D
DrSpooglemon 11 months ago
Potholer54, your videos are a joy to watch
Richard482 11 months ago 21
It was 75 degrees here yesterday. It's 80 today. By this time next year, it will clearly be OVER 1500 DEGREES!!! Invest in sunblock and oscillating fans.
GoblinXXX 11 months ago 2
@GoblinXXX Not only that, but less than 3 months ago the temperature was BELOW ABSOLUTE ZERO!! We couldn't have been around for longer than that or we'd all freeze solid.
MrMaster90 11 months ago
@MrMaster90 That's REALLY young earth creationism, right there. Obviously, the Good Lord made it LOOK like the world was more than 3 months old, and Satan has planted all these false records of history to test our faith!
GoblinXXX 11 months ago
@GoblinXXX Mother nature? On the TV news recently I heard a public appeal from the Pope or Canterbury asking people to not BLAME GOD for all the recent disasters. OK. We should start with Insurance policies not referring to Acts of God. But I think of MOTHER Nature as a beautiful caring Woman. So I'd object to Acts of Mother Nature. Which leave the DEVIL. So why don't Christians blame disasters on Acts of the Devil? Because they know God gets really angry enough to account for everything!
listen2meokidoki 10 months ago
"Get the fuck out of here!" I lol'd and lol'd. <3 Potholer54
jolluxz 11 months ago
you shouldn't be so hard on creationist. their address isn't futile, it is for entertainment and the realization of human knowledge, and to be able to distinguish the difference. love your videos.
esteph828 11 months ago
Your impersination of billy crone if made of justice and win.
GoblinsnHobbits 11 months ago
I'm mighty impressed that you're able to figure out what these morons are trying to say. Kudos.
mrdaym 1 year ago
so the problem is: you could have presented accurate inferred results of historic magnetic field strength (field orientations trapped in solidifying lava) to show the magnetic field wasnt as strong as a linear extrapolation of a short term measurement today would suggest to some creationist ranter on the internet.. if the extrapolation were correct (which it isnt) the energy associated with the geodynamo of the resulting strength could have had devastating results...
Puerk 1 year ago
i know.. i know it is hard and time consuming to produce good and error free videos, and you make a pretty decent job with it (otherwise i wouldnt bother watching them)
but i think you can do better.. yeah it is fun to put live act skits in for some comic relief but:
magnetic fields interact with matter and contain energy which can be extracted by those said interactions.. or the other way around fed into the magnetic field..
Puerk 1 year ago
Your vid was funny and logic but do not forget one thing: those foolish creationist individuals are not the official ambassadors or lawyers of the Supreme. You can refute them easily but not Him...
csontapu 1 year ago
"ok let me stop you there"
Alright Potholer, you win. That was funny. I shall like and favorite this video, but don't let it happen again.
Meatbag211 1 year ago
Goofy is a word that comes to mind. Who is Crone anyway?
allsaintsmonastery 1 year ago
"How great is that number?" love it! great vid as ever.
hornsofthebull 1 year ago
creation math haahahah so poor
managarm1349 1 year ago
I wish Billy Crone was my dad...
papasitoman 1 year ago
By looking at the population of Amish in the world i can conclude that the world was created last tuesday, for otherwise, all the Amish would have laptops.
deathman1021 1 year ago
My favorite quote: "How great is that number?"
FiverBeyond 1 year ago
you are a credit to humanity
TheHomelessCripple 1 year ago
infinity dived by zero
muckstar23 1 year ago
Even without the added hilarity of creationists claims your videos are among some of the most entertaining and educational on YouTube. It's about time you moved into mainstream television. Thank you.
frogdoctor 1 year ago
Pythagoras equation.( X2 + Y2= Z2) better yet try Fermat (X3+ Y3 = Z3).
mcguirethomas8 1 year ago
This is hilarious, especially the "discourse" with billy crone.
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source "a friend of mine from a fitness clugb"
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Can you die from laughing too much? Because I got pretty close during that "20,000?! GET THE FUCK OUTTA HERE!" part haha
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lol that intro is just tooooooo funny ^^
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RileyDarlem 1 year ago
Why don't creationists ever cite their sources?
HybridD91 1 year ago
@HybridD91 Did this idiot just say the ENTIRE UNIVERSE?
HybridD91 1 year ago
@HybridD91 because they make it up as they go along
sisseeboy 1 year ago
TruthfulChristian is one of the dumbest numb-nuts on the net! Holy smokes!
June28July 1 year ago
What is Billy Crone ON? He just screams and yells like an meth-addled hobo.
Omnywrench 1 year ago
With regards to the magnetism comments, if the field was strong and decaying, the rate of change of the field would cause heating. however, the field would have to be millions of times stronger than it currently is for this to be true in any significant way.
binaryblade2 1 year ago
Hihi, listening to the "creationists" are much funnier than watching any Monty Python skit or movie! : )
winterstellar 1 year ago
@winterstellar It's actually painful to listen to these idiots. I try hard to not leave the video but the ownage is so much fun.
HybridD91 1 year ago
Also, Answers in Genesis working backwards? What a surprise.
GumbaMasta 1 year ago
Those two skeletons look like someone posed dead bodies to make it look like they were making out.
GumbaMasta 1 year ago
Your calculations not dodgy.
It's damn right wrong...
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Wow! Another homerun!!! Keep them coming.
KLUTE
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deadadelta 1 year ago
Shut the fuck up! "oh stop and think about it there's no way we've been here for billions of years" Get the fuck outta here!
I've watched this vid 5 times and I'm still laughing!!! XD
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Get the fuck outta here!
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haritadilani 1 year ago
By looking at the global rabbit population I have concluded that the earth can't be more that 10 years old, otherwise the whole world would have been covered in rabbis a few miles deep.
siener 1 year ago 88
@siener omg, lmao. epic.
chicarbiomed 8 months ago
@siener Did you know that at the rate bacteria replicate themselves would have replaced the entire volume of the Earth with in less in 3 years. Why doesn't this happen? Because limited resources prevent too much replication so if the population got too high, too many organisms would starve. Same thing with humans.
oldblubblub 8 months ago
@oldblubblub I know. That's the essence of my joke...
siener 8 months ago
@siener
Bacteria breeds faster then your pitiful rabbits. This is definite evidence that the universe was created yesterday:-)
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Damn Potholer i love ur vids!!
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20 seconds in....comedic genious. Great exchange Potholer...it had me laughing myself silly.
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I'd rather like to meet this guy, cause I have something important to ask him:
Fucking magnets, Billy. How do they work?
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MyOldName 1 year ago
Are you doing Eddie Murphy from Beverly Hills Cop?
dave28lax 1 year ago
Still one of my favorite series on youtube :) Thanks so much for it!
Anonymous247n 1 year ago
I respect TruthfulChristian's honesty, but not his intellect.
thisisnotanick 1 year ago
He sounds like Drinkingwithbob.
TommyWylie 1 year ago
This is seriously fantabulous. Well done, sir!
AnonymousPsych 1 year ago
So is TruthfullChristian for real?
GumbaMasta 1 year ago
@GumbaMasta yes
kokofan50 1 year ago
So IF EVOLUTION IS TRUE, we would mate so much and have so many children that we would stack ourselves out into space, creating a giant planet made out of humans on top eachother, eventually filling up the universe. ..........Are these people on meth?
grendelee 1 year ago
@grendelee
"Are these people on meth?"
No, they are on something much more worse.
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i bet you have a hell of a stewie from family guy voice
flea2181 1 year ago
"get the f!@k outta here" hahahaha
flea2181 1 year ago 2
Hahaha! Iwas rolling on the floor laughing at those two creationists just now. This was so funny! Thumbs up! : )
winterstellar 1 year ago
"All your saying they really needed to do was ask Richard Smmons!!!" AAAHHHHH HAA HAAAAA. I love it!! XDDD
4SCARECROWS 1 year ago
great video
roblesterfilms 1 year ago
hahahah this is my favorite video in youtube. i love the way you structured it. so funny yet informative.
waytohell2 1 year ago
All the matter in humans must come from the earth. The mass of the earth is 5.9742 * 10^24 kg. From some random website I just googled, it says the average weight of a man is 189.8 pounds (who knows/cares if this is for the whole world - I seriously doubt it) = 86 kg. So if we converted the entire earth into humans, we could have at most 6.9 * 10^22 humans.
How's THAT for speculative! :)
deskset24 1 year ago
If Richard Simmons says the earth is only 5000 years old, that's good enough for me! :)
deskset24 1 year ago
I love when we can see TruthfulChristian's message and he says you two can organize a debate!!! lmao!!!
Sweepingreaper4 1 year ago
Billy Crone should stay way from math and stop mega dosing caffeine
Notnowredman 1 year ago
I hope this video doesn't crush Billy Crone's dream of being consistently and hilariously wrong.
DrThunder88 1 year ago