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  • Wow, that's pertty cool. I like your CD computer on the left and REALLY REALLY REALLY!!!! like you small IBM sceen on the top of the CD CPU woud you be willing to sell it to me? I would like to get that little thing from you by a low prise. :)

  • @mraiwa1000 The tower full of CD drives is not a computer. It's a dedicated purpose server, assembled by Procom Technologies (now defunct). The server part itself was made by Axis Communications.

    I use that small monitor regularly. They are hard to find in good condition, so it is not for sale.

  • @uxwbill Oh, was it ever a computer?

  • @mraiwa1000 No, it was a CD server from day one. That's what it was built to be when it was new. Someone probably paid a lot of money for it back then. I was going to strip it for the drives until I realized what it was!

  • Just wondering, what kind of hardware do you have in that CD server of yours? Some kind of a special motherboard with a lot of IDE slots or a dedicated IDE controller card? I have been thinking of building one of those servers myself for burning Linux CDs and DVDs in bulk.

  • @TheBunkerRat It's based on an AXIS Communications server "box" that I have never opened. I don't know what it has for a CPU or RAM. Internally, it uses common narrow SCSI CD (and maybe DVD) ROM drives. Power comes from a rather generic looking baby-AT style power supply.

  • You should see the servers at school 4 Dell Rack's and 4 Dell Poweredge Servers in total- about 80-90-TB's of data

  • I am interested in the Deltacopy instructions for Windows also.

  • Why are you using such a bunch of cd drives ?

  • @dermatze921 That is a special "CD server". It takes the contents of any data CD you insert into the drives and will make that data available over the network. I have videos on it, you can look up "Procom CD Server" from my channel page if you want to know more.

  • I've been running Freenas for a year or so and it works just fine. The only thing that has caused me a few weird issues was the built-in bit torrent service. I think that v8 did away with it, which is probably a good thing.

  • Hi, been watching your vids for a while and I would like to know more about this rsync/deltacopy utility you speak of. Can you send the instructions to me via email or youtubes messaging service?

  • I've had windows never let me down :) I tried Osx for server use on a pentium 4 but it would overheat too often and the transfer rate was slow, so that went back to xp.

  • nice stuff, congrats from chile

  • Simply awesome! Thanks for sharing.

  • Thanks for the update! Just what I was hoping to hear...

  • sorry no freeNAS as I know I have to install freeBSD and had not done it yet, skip that one

  • HI there thanks for your tutorials,,,,I have I problem when Im thrying to intall on oracle VM, after the installation is done and then reboot it says there is not installed the appropeiate kernel : pae...............or something similar to that...appreciate your help thanks

  • @michaeljacksoncoco What are you trying to install on your Oracle VM? FreeNAS? Something else?

    As far as I know, FreeNAS does not require PAE to function. PAE is mainly of interest to those who need access to more than 4GB of installed RAM while running a 32-bit OS and applications.

  • @uxwbill I m tryin to install FreeNas , also Ubuntu Server distro, openfiler etc they give me the same problem, I use as host system windows 7 32-bits...thanks for answering

  • freenas is great

    you are an idiot

    lets make a nas with 1 GB of space - OAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAUUUU!

  • wows, alot of cables :O

  • FreeNAS is awesome. I use it, as well, and i just can highly recommend it.

  • @Grafikbug Yep, if your hardware is compatible, it just works and keeps right on going. As of basically right now, FreeNAS on this system has been up for 125 days 15 hours 44 minutes 47 seconds and it's still going.

  • that's cool but how much is your hydro bill?

  • @bgggbb It's not bad at all.

    By the way...the power consumption of this particular computer compares very well with a purpose built NAS device (NSLU2) running two disks.

  • @uxwbill Interesting, you'd think that PPro in it would drain power.

  • @Dant2142 I wondered if it would, but I think it spends 90% of its life working easily or even idling in this application.

  • do u have a video about the pc with all the cd rom drives

  • @pcnetworkman It's not a PC. See the other comments. :-) You're the first person to request a video, so let me see what I can do.

  • Ownage !!!

    Open media vault will own btw.

  • @jeroeniskoning I was not aware of OpenMediaVault prior to your comment. It looks not to be available quite yet. I'm sure that when it is, I will try it out and see what I think. For now, though, FreeNAS is available and pretty stable.

  • @uxwbill

    Sorry, thought that you were aware of the project.

    Because FeeNas is based on freebsd it's hard for the creators to improve anything.

    So the original FreeNas coder Vollker has started his own prject OMV.

    It's based on the VERY stable Debian Linux server version. It is going to be significantly faster, featurerich, easier and even a little more efficient.

    The release schouln't take long.

  • @jeroeniskoning No, this is the first time I have ever heard of it. I'm surprised that FreeNAS being based on FreeBSD makes it hard to improve and change things. (Last I knew, FreeBSD was under an open source license. But maybe there is more to it.)

    I will "stay tuned" for the release. :-) In the meantime, I tried Openfiler, but it had higher hardware demands than I wanted and seemed pretty thin on built in features.

  • Yeah, I had a similar setup, but recently scrapped it in favor of a P4 machine I have running Tiger OS X. The FreeNAS was okay, but I had 2 - 1 Tb hard drives in a raid0 which kind of sucked if one went down. Now I have both those hard drives in the P4 server using Chronosync to keep them the same. But if something happens to one I have a perfect copy which I can use. Just my way of doing it, enjoy your videos a lot.

  • @mosslack If you want to do that again, FreeNAS can do RAID1 (mirroring) which is probably what you wanted. RAID0 exists mainly to improve disk performance by striping writes across drives, and provides no data security at all.

    The only thing I'm not sure about is whether or not any "special magic" is applied to a FreeNAS software RAID1 volume that would preclude reading it later without special methods.

  • @uxwbill Yeah, FreeNAS was very stable for me, I just started it up and forgot about it. I will give my P4/Tiger server some time and see how that works out, but I will keep your suggestion in mind. Thanks!

  • Why do you have so many optical drives in the computer next to the Vectra?

  • @MixerVM It's not a computer. It's an Axis/Procom CD server.

  • @uxwbill Thats the one on the left right?

    And what do you do with it?

  • @Speedster159 Yes, that's what on the left. It is very useful when a machine has a network card (as nearly all of mine do) and a functional network stack but no optical drive.

  • @uxwbill What did you do with your Dell Dimension V350?

    Cause i plan on using mine as a Web Server but i don't know what OS i will use...

    It has 128Mb of RAM.

  • I have my ups hook up to a RV battery!

  • I've had some like that in the past, and I have one now that I am saving for a future project.

  • instead of having the extra linksys storage link why don't you migrate the data and disks attached to it into the FreeNAS box? I'm a fan of consolidating network appliances making it all easier to manage

  • how old are you ?

  • @159329 27

  • isnt a minimum of 128 mb of ram required to run freenas? How much ram do you have in your server?

  • @LordSamuelJ It recommended 512 mb of ram

  • 128 is the minimum required. I have 192. It seems to work fine. It is *extremely* stable.

  • I saw a old Compaq ProLiant (possibly a ProLiant 800 -- i didn't get a particularly good look at it) at the store i believe i mentioned in the PS/2 token ring video, i figure it too would make a good FreeNAS server. what would you say?

  • i had a dell under my bed... yea not the fastest sending it files over wifi but yea it works amazing:D no lag at streaming but alaz it died :( i got a server again old hp but its for sumthing elkse

  • why don't you clean up all of the cables???? You are going to have a house fire soon

  • whats the machine on the left? a giant cd module?

  • Neat!! Good job. I am envy-es of your knowledge! lol.

  • How fast is the effective data transfer speed of your FreeNAS machine? I mean, by looking at the FreeNAS WebGUI at "Status"->Graphs" during a backup?

    By the way: I used a MicroDrive instead of a CompactFlash card as a boot source for Freenas - it works very well!

  • Glad to see you found a use for a VERY aging system... and with a Pentium Pro at that! I've been looking for just the right *obsolete* PC for such a job... but I have yet to find such a machine, although I have a very big collection of PCs that have been given to me and such.

    One thing you might be interested in looking into is some SATA to Firewire 400 enclosures, this being because (and you most likely know this) that Firewire is diasychainable.

  • @RolledRick I'm getting ready to build another to receive rsync jobs from this one. The new one is more powerful (AMD K6-2 366). I prefer Firewire, but I had to go USB with this one. Firewire was severely unreliable on this system.

    Combo USB/FW cards were not a big hit (kernel panic every time), and often caused kernel panics. Of course, all of them seem to be based on VIA's VT6214 USB/630x FW, and I don't think they're the best. (Though the same cards worked on newer boards.)

  • A standalone LSI/Agere based Firewire card worked much better than the VIA-based combo card.

    Of course, the trick then was to find a disk with Firewire. For whatever reason, I just didn't feel like putting one together from a separate enclosure and drive. All I could find was the WD Mybook Studio, which I'd firmly suggest that nobody should buy. It's seriously flawed, WD doesn't care and the SmartWare disaster can't be removed from it--not even months after I complained to them!

  • Freenas and Rsync FTW! I can't stress how important backup is... and how easy it is to implement one using an old PC.

  • nice to see that i'm not the only one who thought about a more or less bulletproof backup solution :o)

    i'm using an old comp in a shoddy case sitting in the cellar... spent a couple bucks on an 80+ PSU (330W Seasonic) and i'm using a good old Asus CUBX with 512MB SD-RAM and a Via C3 Ezra 866MHz.. This thing (the CPU) uses 9W max. at full load (!) and passive cooling is enough :o)

    stuffed with lots of HDDs in and there you go..

    rest is more or less the same principle as in this vid :o)

  • LOVE THIS! I'm an IT professional and I use freenas at home to do all of our backups as well. Also love the idea that you're putting old stuff to a good use/home. If you need any advice on freenas (not that I'm an expert) let me know. REALLY AWESOME DIY!

  • why do you have 7 disk drives on one computer?

  • @KMScarboy That thing is not a computer. It's a Procom CD server. When you put CDs into the drives, it serves them out over the network using FTP, Windows Sharing, Apple Filing Protocol or even via its built in web server.

    I picked it up thinking that it was a SCSI cabinet and my intention was to strip the drives out of it.

    But that was before I knew what it actually was--and it's very, very handy when a computer doesn't have a CD-ROM drive but does have a network connection!

  • LOL if u dont mind me asking you this how bad is the power bill? as im thinking of this but my power bills already high with just 2 pcs on during the day.

  • My power bill isn't bad at all. Powering everything in the house including the not insignificant number of computers usually results in $115 or so worth of electricity usage per month.

  • Lol im in aus and ours is around $300 with 2 pcs on during the day :S

  • dare i ask what youre monthly power bill is:)

  • After seeing the first video of your FreeNAS project, I decided to try it myself. While I couldn't get FreeNAS to work with a lot of my computers at first, I finally got it settled in an old Dimension. With my luck, though, the 160GB Maxtor I threw in it sounds like it's finally dying so now I'm waiting to find another cheap drive to throw in it. Oh well :P

  • One of the things you've got to have is enough RAM to get through the installation. It's more than is normally required to run the OS itself, because the setup routine creates a RAM disk to hold files.

    FreeNAS will boot and run on a minimum of 96MB when installed. But the installer requires at least 192MB or things start to get stepped on.

  • All the computers I tried at least had 256MB RAM. It's just that for some reason, FreeNAS didn't wanna work on them :\ I'm glad it at least works on my Dimension 4100.

  • i have a first gen imac i wanna get rid of i lost all the cords to it and it needs a new cd rom drive

  • How much?

  • local only sorry

  • I'm sure you'd have no problem finding a home for it on a Freecycle list (or equivalent) in your area. There's a thriving "low end" Macintosh user community out there.

  • it would be cool if you could have loads of freenas machines linked together

  • @thetechall Out of curiosity, what would you do with them all?

  • @uxwbill i dont really know, i never thought about that. I guess i would sell offsite backup to my friends or something. I have a spare computer which i have ubuntu server on it, i use it as a webserver. I really think you should either purchase webhosting from bluehost or host your own webserver.

  • @thetechall It's an interesting theory, but there are some things to think about. First, you'd need enough bandwidth for people to reach you. If you're lucky, have something lots of bandwidth to burn, and your ISP doesn't care, you're closer to being there. (Many ISPs say "no servers". Some actually do something to enforce it.)

    Then you'd need security, something to encrypt data as it comes in over the line. And you'd need to keep malicious operators and users out of it. It'd be a lot of work.

  • People will abuse public-facing servers, especially those that might have some bidirectional transfer capability, or the ability to receive a shell after logging in.

    I'm no stranger to hosting a web site or using a professional hosting service. I presently do both, one running over my home broadband service.

  • @uxwbill what is your website?

  • @uxwbill well lucky me :) i have unlimited bandwith and im on a buisness plan :D

  • Does that mouse wihte he blue ball, move by movign teh ball withyour thub, i used to have one of thoose :)

  • @portugal0are0da0best That's a trackball, and yes, that is exactly what it does. It's hooked up a system running PC-BSD right next door to the FreeNAS stuff.

  • I must say I've been running FreeNas all most 2 months now with TIme Machine backups over WiFi and its going great.

  • im thinking about making a freenas device after we move out of an old p3 733 gateway with 128 megs of ram usb 2 card and 2 big drives unknown size yet lol

  • Never turss a bank

    if something ever happens to bank system

    you be better off Getting Water Proof,FireProof,Bullet Proof . Safe

    that look like great Set up there bill

    I need do something like that

  • @SpeedSwordCarbon There's a lot less concern there than you'd think, but yes, there are certainly reasons that a bank could not be fully trusted. In particular, they too must comply with a court order if one were to be issued.

    I've encrypted these disks--slows the process down given the lack of CPU power in this machine--but it works.

    Another idea that I'm looking at is rsync-ing to a second FreeNAS in the Roach Palace. It should be doable, and is just another layer of data security.

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