EZDIA is also a networking site where you Signup and Start Earning , as well as you can create your own Knowledge Bucket and Post content and get Paid for that.
I am now watching this one year later, and your message is more relevant than ever. The 'opportunity' that YouTube could lose is a valuable community that can 'only' get bigger - if allowed to grow. They could make a lot of money hosting a community - even a community not trying to be partners. But, web 3.0 communities will, as you say, span (and are spanning) over several web sites - with no one central locale - if youtube can make itself that hub, it'll be gold for it.
First I'm pleased you're watching it a year later because I've been thinking about this and a follow up vid as an update to it (along with blogging about it). I'm sort of proud I was conceptually in the right direction.
YT still has an opportunity to regain some footing in the online social networking world but the window is closing fast with Facebook, Twitter, etc. There are some in the community that need to understand that YT does have to make money.
I really like your observation about web 3.0 communities because in this video I specifically mentioned the spanning of locales or platforms. Look at Twitter, I rest my case...a lot of yt community is on there!
Personally I see a whole new set of boomers my age who have just been unexpectedly newly unemployed, "early retired" and so on signing onto social networking like never before now they have the time. We adapt/tolerate to the profit model as long as it's not too intrusive...
Yes this is correct. The NEXT stage in the evolution is the ability to take this to any website and have those social networking functions (Chat,Blog,Comment)and interact with people on those websites they visit. This will be considered Web2.1 or Web 3.0
I think social networking is going to move outside of corporate sites, to people having their own websites they pay for or are part of a hosting package and the networking will be more of a messenger program so your friends are more portable and not just stuck to one site or another, youtube will become just another file hosting site
It is fascinating to see how YT has evolved over the time I have been an active member. Communities and friendships do develop - as far as the user will let them.
Your comments are very interesting. Will you do a follow-up vlog? - roc
I intended to do a follow up vlog sooner than I will...not too long after this I was sidelined but a minor medical problem I'm getting taken care of. I will do one after that is over, in a month or so.
CEO's need to step forward and admit corporations need to become institutionalized to behave more like good citizens. There are steps for CEO declaring this. They want to. It's up to us the people to apply pressure. The time is now. This will ensure a stable, sustainable, peaceful economy.. we have all the tools..
Ms Ophelia...I'm not sure with what they've put up with I would want to...unless they make a big change. They're handpicked by YouTube and I don't think they'd even consider me anyway but I appreciate your thinking of me.
This is a great video. Youre right they have no idea about the social interaction. The ways censorship, suspensions, things like that happen can be received harshly by those that care about other members of the community. 5 stars.
Thanks Eric, I appreciate that especially coming from you. It seems events that affect community are escalating rapidly the past 7-10 days and getting more difficult and I don't see them fading away soon either.
This is what the fight for Net Neutrality is all about!
This is something everyone needs to write their Congressmen/women about because the Corporations are looking to find a way to shut down our freedom online so they can control us and sell us what they want to sell us, just like they do with T.V.!
That is why I reference Online Social Networking and am trying to raise awareness on this website that the concept of online community is not confined to YouTube (which for many here s the first time they've encountered it) and why people need to take control...otherwise corporations will influence legislation and gain control.
I also apologize for the tone, but Jesus... you are putting way too much into the internet. Statistically, Youtube's viewers are the most illiterate, uneducated, moronic people I've ever had the chance to view from a Freudian distance. There is NO COMMUNITY! "We" are not going anywhere! Just more midwest, yokel morons with Vista run computers. There is no revolution. Just technology that is doing NOTHING for humanity.
Sorry to interrupt, but I thought I just heard your mom say that the Hot Pockets were ready. FYI, the internet is a tool. Computers are no longer the property of students, the financially responsible or the desktop publishers... it's just another freaking medium of mediocrity. You might as well philosophize with a bunch of 12 year olds about getting pwned. Seriously. Or turn it the fuck off and play some pond hockey with me and talk to some real people.
This whole Renetto revolution thing has me very confused. Maybe I'm just blind to what's going on, but why do people think that YouTube owes them anything? I mean, it's a free site. If everyone is so unhappy here, why are they all still here?
It's not about people thinking YouTube owes them anything in my mind, I don't feel that way. Online social networking has grown into something that is part of people's everyday lives and there are things developing that maybe YT isn't meeting or people are outgrowing unless YT makes some changes. Technology is moving real fast and people are adapting to a new way of life with it, that's the revolution. Do you still use a landline phone much?
Okay, I know nothing about social networking, so can you give me an example of what you mean by 'things are developing'. What is it that YouTube isn't giving you that you want so bad? Do other sites have it now, or is this some top secret experiment that you and Renetto are going to spring on everybody?
Online social networking is the interaction of people online such as MySpace, Facebook and with Avatars on Second Life. What made YouTube very unique is that it started as a video sharing site with the feature of an online forum where people could comment on the videos. What no one expected is that that would become a type of "chat" about the videos and people would connect with each other and keep coming back.
Out of that an online community developed and vloggers started talking about each other and it. It became more than just a place to put up and watch video clips. The community aspect of it grew, contests happened (Lou), gatherings started, etc. No one expected that. With the purchase of YT by Google it stayed the same for awhile but last year Google started seeing this more as an entertainment venue and the community aspect as a revenue drag.
In the mean time companies are beta testing technologies with video that is more interactive and focuses on the community aspect. They see it as a way to have an interactive video sharing online social networking site that invests in the community and the community in turn invest back in the business and that is how the money is made.
If YouTube doesn't want to do that then someone will...I don't have anything to spring on anyone. This stuff is in journals out there for anyone to read.
JR, thanks for taking the time to explain what's going on with the social networking scene. I do find it very interesting, and I can see how Google sees our little community as a revenue drag, considering I have never clicked on an ad here on YouTube since I joined over a year and a half ago.
However, I'm very curious what you mean when you say "the community in turn invests back in the business, and that is how the money is made". Do you mean by paying a monthly fee to join a social networking site?
no...these sites (and YouTube if they chose to do it) would offer services or products that users would be more likely to opt into, purchase (click on an ad and buy), allow other users who have offsite businesses to be more open (within reason) to talk about their services. For example a much better ad on YT would be a video equipment ad, a service on solving common pc or video problems, connecting with that channels offsite website business, younger audience will go for music downloads.
truthfully...how many people are pushing on the pink "push me for love" ad except as a mistake because of the deliberate 2-3 second delay on a partner channel? Who clicks on the sidebar ads that don't really relate to most users? You have to wonder...that model isn't going to work much longer and others see that. I don't want YT to lose but it's up to them to wake up.
I don't mind if money facilitates the maintenance and improvement of the equipment, pays for people to be employed at equitable wages to run the thing, a fair return for people who invested in it. What I don't like in corporations is everything, including people and relationships being turned into a product to be marketed and sold...that's a different matter, which is what I think you're getting at.
Baileykix was here. I believe we should be allowed creative freedom on this site. For example, the use of whatever forms of media we choose to incorporate into our videos.
That is a sentiment I totally agree with as long as we don't infringe on current copyright and not for the reasons people might think. I believe the people who are enforcing copyright so stringently will end up the losers because no one will use their stuff and people will create their own media that will be far better, fresher and more creative.
I still think it should be ok to use parts of other sources of content if: 1. You mention somewhere in the video their name and title of work and 2. You're not recieving payment for the video itself. I mean it's not like I'd make any money from it.
That's true, I hadn't thought of it that way. These artists are being a little too hard core and forgetting if you use parts of it, give them credit, you're actually giving them some free advertising.
Part 1 ~ JR, I havent written YOutube about this yet but I am putting a long letter together but one of my ideas is an Copyright free button where popular artists and musicians and TV shows will allow clips or portions of there music in our videos. ~Raven
Part 2~ They can state what percent of the song but its a big pay off for them because they get perks for being generous. I think it should be listed 2 ways,...1)First come, first serve bases where the artists would agree are mentioned first...and 2) Alphabetical order. This would help. Artists could list the songs we could use, TV shows, etc., ~Raven
You're not known for understatements Reid...what you've stated is fact. Whether they wake up before they lose that asset is what we're asking ourselves I suppose...
Thank you for the compliment on my vid and subbing. Yes, I recognize you from Snark's place, like your comments over there. Cave Creek huh? Know that area pretty well! ;~}
"When you look at the world we humans have created you may conclude that it was created by sleeping people, because awake, aware, conscious people would manifest a very different world. We have entered one of the most important periods in human history...We have the opportunity to lift ourselves to new levels of consciousness." JOHN PERKINS Dream Change (DC) founder, NY Times best selling author of Confessions of an Economic Hit Man and The Secret History of the American Empire.
Great points. This is a start to a real life interfacing with online people. Many people on here and other sights have real relationships with people. Some of them to me are just like friends in real life situations. I care for them just the same.
Dave you have pinpointed the real revolutionary change, that we have now merged what we once separated as "irl" friends and "online" friends. A recognition that technology is not the barrier to how we feel about people.
It might be that the evolution of technology along with the online social networking revolution in society just naturally leads to some type of exodus...it could be away from YouTube if they don't change their corporate mindset and adapt. It doesn't have to be but the 21st is well underway...they own it, they choose to succeed or fail by using outdated marketing principles.
Good points, but it looks like you were READING JR. I had that problem when I first start vlogging, but reading makes the message seem fabricated and not straight forward. Try not scripting your vlog next time, and see how it turns out. When a vlog is unscripted, its more from the heart and soul, and it comes out more honest than reading it.
well...thanks for the compliment but I didn't mean to steal your thunder! I'm sure you have something worthwhile to say, I think this is on a lot of our minds.
YouTube has a natural advantage over sites like MySpace and Facebook because they take the user interaction to a deeper level via video. Video naturally being the next evolution point after a world that's primarily centered around textual content.
There has to be a balance struck between a corporations need to satisfy it's fiduciary responsibilities and servicing the core of it's business. The user community here on YouTube is an incredible tool that YouTube can leverage to position itself as the leader in the next generation of social networking sites. They just have to be able to see the vision beyond all of their strategy.
The hope of any social networking site is that by it's own simple use, a website will have the power to engage it's users/members in a learning experience about other people, cultures, religions, orientations, politics, ideas, etc that the user/member would not normally be involved with during the normal interactions that they face in their everyday lives. Thus said website opens the user up to a to a whole new world of experiences.
Successes in these avenues are achieved everyday, at a multitude of sites. Simply conversing with someone in another city/state/region/country is now a commonplace experience for millions of people around the world, on a daily basis.
For many people it is now an integral part of their life and they accept that experience not only as the norm but want to somehow take it to a different level.
I agree that big corp's tend to lok only at the money and really should and need to consider the little people with this as it is the little people that will or will not make them their money after all. Great vid JR. As for where i am going, i haven't worked that out yet.
Kim I'm finding a lot of people are mulling this over and I'm thinking if we all stay put for a little while...what to do and where to go, if anywhere, will become well known. We'll meet in Stickam for the mad rush over! j/k ;~}
I just love it when the facts speak so clearly AND they're delivered with measured thought-provoking examples that encapsulate all the elements. THANX for this!≡÷þ
You framed this issue very well. I think corporations are usually behind the curve in seeing opportunities and trends. They deal with money, so they are conservative by nature, but this does not always serve their long term interest. You should always take a double take, even you find yourself fighting with your own customers' expectations.
Merger mania has made corporations lose touch with trends and customers base because everything has become just another product to be cranked out. That business model is beginning to fail I think.
This is an amazing video JR, I realy enjoyed your analysis and I think you did a brilliant job at doing so and I am realy glad you are getting the deserved attention!
talking about youtube having issues:
2/3 of videos I should see (as I am subscribed to their makers) don't show up for me. I had to go to renetto's channel to find you. ;)
Thanks Matthias...I wondered what you would think of it. I didn't want to call your attention to it (especially after seeing your vid!) yeah, this is my first hit I guess!
I'm beginning to wonder about my sub box now because it seems like it's "short" of vids or they're showing up hours after.
but back to youtube having issues, have you ever noticed in your own video comment thread when replying to comments next to your own name it has: Reply|Remove|Block User|Spam ?
Now why would you block yourself or mark yourself as spam?
I agree I've seen this before and it's very strange because I saw this on someone else's channel and they didn't even notice it until I had pointed it out. It was kinda odd because they were talking about their next video. :S
Jr, you are very correct on your observations. I feel that the web has outstriped the conventional thinking of profit and loss statements. A whole new way of thinking is evolving and society, as is normal, playing catchup. The next step is upon us and very few see it. Thanks for sharing your views and learned insights..
Thanks Allen and I appreciate your insights as well in these matters. It's unfortunate also that people who run corporations and governments are also behind in their understanding of how quickly things are evolving.
There is a school of thought that claims that corps and governmental agencies, do not want this type of evolution to come about To them it threatens the power structure that is in place. And it may!!!!
Last comment, and I am now going to go take my Valium,lol....Some frustrations can never be solved. Its like putting a program that is a bunch of folks talking about their favorite food and showing that at the same time as Oprah. What gets heard is often based on its entertainment value. The vblogger is the eseence of youtube but even through creating a stronger community, the vblogger will always compete with the entertainment factor even if its just between vbloggers. ~Raven
Apart of me feels like so much of the controversy is unreal. Realtiy like a community exists here doesnt seem to be catching. I feel it and I see it. I just dont see what it is that youtube is doing that is saying that they dont care. I just wants facts. I havent seen anything that warrants those judgments. ~Raven
Also, YOutube is a new corporation. They havent been around for 10 years. Every few months they change something and they do it for us. They neeed to change more and I beleive that they will but reality needs to sit within our anger. Youtube is growing. Being heard, getting promoted is slowly becoming rare because the vbloggers are growing. ~Raven
It's time for the on-line community to fuley move to the information age and the leave the coporations behind in the industrial age. The first step is transitioning to a satellite based medium.
The only problem is that the corporations have loads of money and will try and buy out every outlet that we will try to make to thwart them. :( I'm for leaving corporations behind too but that's the biggest problem I see right now.
But then I think about it and YT is a corporation too. I don't think we will be able to truly get away from corporations themselves but maybe change the way corporations function and work.
Very few partners are paid by views, that's a common mis-perception. Most partners are paid only for ad clicks. I think if you asked renetto he would agree that there should be an equitable and fair revenue sharing for everyone. That's why there's so much divisiveness on the site.
This is really intresting stuff and want to find out more. I just subscribed and became your number 200 subscriber so will be checking back for the updates.
The problem is alot of this controversy circles around people who dont understand the laws and what a corporation could face if youtube didnt censor. Its a no brainer. Its really easy. Go research the corporate lawsuits that happen in America and be ready to get shocked. You can sue for almost anything. ~Raven
JR, I am not negating your intelligence. I have 3 degrees and studied Math, Mechanical Engineering, Sociology and have written teh news for over 2 years. Since your aware of the law, than surely you understand why youtube censors and how this censorship is being misconscrued as youtube doenst care for the community becuase someone gets banned. ~Raven
I think it's very easy to misuse the term 'censorship'. It goes back to where JR pointed out that a lot of people don't understand issues with the use of copyrighted material. YouTube could have done a much better job of working with people to educate them on the ins and outs, the dos and don'ts.
hey, jr! I'm going to have to watch this again and Renetto's vid. I'm distracted:) I think if Youtube just makes a few changes, us slaves will shut-up. some more features, etc... I was really upset when they got rid of the Categories section and the featured channels. I thought that was a good thing.
I want to hold an online debate about censorship and the community on Stickham. Folks need to be educated(not saying you) about the law and all the lawsuits youtube faces and still is behind what youtubers do. FOlks dont give a rats ass about that because its not there pocket. What happened to the good ole days where if we did something that could cost something to a stranger, that we felt bad about it? ~Raven
Raven I've been asked for several months to do that on Stickam and I wasn't sure people were ready for it. Seeing some of the responses on Paul's and my video as well as others I'm still not sure...there is a lot of misunderstanding on how all this works. Too much focus on personality and not on the issue
You and I may have different perspectives on marketing, social issues, etc. but are passionate about what we think and believe and capable of holding (I think!) civilized discussions...it's about moving forward and reasonable discussion is the only way to do that.
JR, I am all about civil debates. I am not a name caller, putting someone down stuff....I just like debating facts....there are plenty of lawsuits where people won against corporations which were lame and ridiculous. People will lie and do what they can to sue and if I owned Youtube, I would be scared to death. The money they put out with Viacom was high and their legal costs will grow. People want to say, to behave as they choose. I wish YOutube good luck. ~Raven
Your very civil and not a name caller that I know of.
I want YouTube to succeed as a commercial site where people can post videos that are responsible and abide by the TOS. I think that's reasonable and that a respectable online social network can co-exist with that.
Part 1~ JR, I completely agree. A social network does co-exist but what I think youtube should do is create a community channel where all the pages existing right now, most discussed, most favorited, etc., are just for the commmunity. Now, I have looked at that idea and do see future problems or projections. For one...~Raven
Part 2~ At first, it would bring more exposure to vbloggers but not much more because there are what only 100 vids that can be promoted on each of those "most" sections. In about another year, I think its fair to say that vblogger heaven will probably double or grow significantly which means it will again be hard to get recognized. ~Raven
Part 3~ Then how will this new section differenciate whats vblogging? Some vbloggers make short films and isnt just about talking about how they feel about something or their life. Are people aware that entertainment tends to get more views that just chatting? ~Raven
Part 4~ Its reasonable to assume that in time, the community section will fill up with more commerical related ideas than just vbloggers talking...right? Fetishes, booty shakes, etc., will genuinely get more views than someone talking about what they did for the day, right? ~Raven
part 5~ If a person analizes the market and what sells, its not difficult to understand that entertainment, boobie thumbnails, etc., will make their mark on Youtube no matter what and the vblogger will have their small community and not get all the perks of community promotion. ~raven
part6~ The only way around fighting the market or what tends to get popular is to create a vblogger channel that isnt going to allow entertainment oriented vids. Where folks just talking without the high end editing skills, etc., would only be allowed. It would have to censor and trust me, there will be drama with that too. ~Raven
Part 7....I feel that the same problems or dilemmas will always exist on some margins due to popularity carried by numbers. One idea that I had was that peoples favorites on their profiles could get promoted on Youtube. I find more interesting vids there then the ones that get featured. ~Raven
People are saying youtube is removing accounts to screw with the community. How much BS is that? Its so victim like that its ridiculous. Yes, youtube needs to create a youtube channel, they need a 3 strikes your out game plan PRIOR to removing someones channel,(3 vids removed, warnings), they have to work on hiring more staff so there is more consistency on who gets disciplined, etc., stuff needs to change but...~Raven
We dont pay for this site. Its cost millions to run this badboy and we upload for free, gets out videos seen with an audience where we arent paying for a marketing company to do that for us, we have met amazing people, are entertained, etc., and we dont pay for anything. To expect a corporation to loose millions just so we can do whatever the hell we want is ignorance circled around people who dont know the law. ~Raven
I haven't been a real hardcore youtuber for very long but it is very easy to see that the community part of the online sites are losing their individuality and sense of community. Instead there are more profits being made for just being yourself online. It makes me sad.
It's making a lot of people sad...the communities actually make a lot of these sites what they are. There is nothing wrong with making a profit but exploitation of the community by squeezing every penny out will kill the community and eventually the site. Then what is left?
I find this topic very interesting because it's something I've noticed on other online communities too. Unfortunately the other sites like myspace and gaiaonline to name a few are "selling out" or becoming cooperate run. I always see these promotions for movies, shows, even just a company logo/product and it's something that I see has also invaded youtube.
I have been part of social groups online for well over 10 years now, with people having each others emails and phone numbers, meeting up and having parties ect, so in a way all this anxiety some people have about this community kind of makes me sit back and chuckle. I guess I have been there done that, so I know that sites and groups have their own ebb and flow.
JR, its nice talk....I like nice talk too but its impossible for a video user site to run for free without ads. Its so expensive that it would BLOW YOUR MIND! 2, FOlks just dont understand marketing, the law or the cost if they did, they would understand that Youtube has the right to make money and wouldnt be pissed off about the commercial end. Its actually quite silly. ~Raven
Part 2~ There are things that Youtube needs to change but its BS to be pissed off that google wants money since most of us arent saints or mother teresas of folks that would sacrifice their home for a STRANGER. It takes a whole lot of generosity to sacrifice loosing millions just so someone else can slander, defamation of character, use copyright etc., etc., ~Raven
Part 3~ If I owned Youtube I wouldnt be loosing millions so folks could screw me over.And the sad part about what I said, I just pissed alot of people who dont get that they would feel the same way if they owned youtube and it was about THEIR pocket.. ~Raven
Raven...you didn't piss me off and I've heard you on this topic elsewhere and I get where you are coming from. I have not responded to you previously because it was not my thread.
You would be mistaken if you think I do not understand marketing, far from the truth. No business can survive without a reasonable profit and enough of one to make improvements and increase the business. That's a fact.
Great Content, Keep up the Good work
joyhuntsman86 2 months ago
EZDIA is also a networking site where you Signup and Start Earning , as well as you can create your own Knowledge Bucket and Post content and get Paid for that.
86rishabh 2 years ago
Very Good Video.. brings up good points
VictoriaGreyh 2 years ago
Hiya
I was just looking around youtube when I found this video Online Social Networking Revolution: Thinking Ahead and I decided to watch it.
This is a really great video, keep coming back with more of the same and you will be very popular.
MarkMcCulloch
CEO Of My Life, PHD In Results
MarkMillionaireGuru 2 years ago
I am now watching this one year later, and your message is more relevant than ever. The 'opportunity' that YouTube could lose is a valuable community that can 'only' get bigger - if allowed to grow. They could make a lot of money hosting a community - even a community not trying to be partners. But, web 3.0 communities will, as you say, span (and are spanning) over several web sites - with no one central locale - if youtube can make itself that hub, it'll be gold for it.
ournationalspace 3 years ago
Maybe, however, youtube is a like a restaurant - one of many that we meet in for the cobb salad! 5 stars again :-)
ournationalspace 3 years ago
First I'm pleased you're watching it a year later because I've been thinking about this and a follow up vid as an update to it (along with blogging about it). I'm sort of proud I was conceptually in the right direction.
YT still has an opportunity to regain some footing in the online social networking world but the window is closing fast with Facebook, Twitter, etc. There are some in the community that need to understand that YT does have to make money.
jrsnyderjr 3 years ago
I really like your observation about web 3.0 communities because in this video I specifically mentioned the spanning of locales or platforms. Look at Twitter, I rest my case...a lot of yt community is on there!
Personally I see a whole new set of boomers my age who have just been unexpectedly newly unemployed, "early retired" and so on signing onto social networking like never before now they have the time. We adapt/tolerate to the profit model as long as it's not too intrusive...
jrsnyderjr 3 years ago
...and notice I never did take that partnership and still respond to comments a year later!
♫ ♫ ♫ oh! it's so hard to be humble when you're perfect in almost every way! ♫ ♫ ♫ ♫
jrsnyderjr 3 years ago
Yes this is correct. The NEXT stage in the evolution is the ability to take this to any website and have those social networking functions (Chat,Blog,Comment)and interact with people on those websites they visit. This will be considered Web2.1 or Web 3.0
ajstone2 3 years ago
@ajstone2 You already kind of have that with web forums and so forth.
DBCOOPER888 1 year ago
indeed a revolution!!
Bless
Proshka
Proshka 3 years ago
thanks for taking the time to watch this Angela.
harmony...JR
jrsnyderjr 3 years ago
I think social networking is going to move outside of corporate sites, to people having their own websites they pay for or are part of a hosting package and the networking will be more of a messenger program so your friends are more portable and not just stuck to one site or another, youtube will become just another file hosting site
CasualDaveDotCom 3 years ago
YouTube is a platform hosting site and the direction is for "portability" of friends but there are a lot of issues revolving around that data.
jrsnyderjr 3 years ago
yep, security vs freedom is be he high wire balancing act of the 21st century
CasualDaveDotCom 3 years ago
It is fascinating to see how YT has evolved over the time I have been an active member. Communities and friendships do develop - as far as the user will let them.
Your comments are very interesting. Will you do a follow-up vlog? - roc
popparoc46 3 years ago
I intended to do a follow up vlog sooner than I will...not too long after this I was sidelined but a minor medical problem I'm getting taken care of. I will do one after that is over, in a month or so.
jrsnyderjr 3 years ago
Good. I hope you are well.
or, getting well.
popparoc46 3 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
That was a really good video,
Thanks
Lauren
justwant2bhappy 4 years ago
not sure how your comment got marked as spam, but I'm glad you liked it!
jrsnyderjr 3 years ago
Very true. Keep up the good work
mtwtdallas 4 years ago
CEO's need to step forward and admit corporations need to become institutionalized to behave more like good citizens. There are steps for CEO declaring this. They want to. It's up to us the people to apply pressure. The time is now. This will ensure a stable, sustainable, peaceful economy.. we have all the tools..
PatriotsofAMERICA 4 years ago
you got 7,000 views
cyber9rounder1 4 years ago
only got it from renetto
fuckyorenemesis 3 years ago
yeah ein dicker junge ...
Wuschel2702 4 years ago
JR you need to be on our community
council, you have an awesome insight on
how things are and should be managed.
MsOpheliaPayne 4 years ago
Ms Ophelia...I'm not sure with what they've put up with I would want to...unless they make a big change. They're handpicked by YouTube and I don't think they'd even consider me anyway but I appreciate your thinking of me.
jrsnyderjr 4 years ago
making money ... priceless
being a humain corporation ... impossible
jasahasch 4 years ago
is yuvutu dot com a social network too???for perverts and voyeurism lol
latinoseattle 4 years ago
It is a social networking kinship of sorts. Enjoyed the video and the blog. Peace. :)
girlganja 4 years ago
Thanks girlganja...peace. ;~}
jrsnyderjr 4 years ago
This is a great video. Youre right they have no idea about the social interaction. The ways censorship, suspensions, things like that happen can be received harshly by those that care about other members of the community. 5 stars.
airricksreloaded 4 years ago
Thanks Eric, I appreciate that especially coming from you. It seems events that affect community are escalating rapidly the past 7-10 days and getting more difficult and I don't see them fading away soon either.
jrsnyderjr 4 years ago
This is NOT just a You Tube issue.
This is what the fight for Net Neutrality is all about!
This is something everyone needs to write their Congressmen/women about because the Corporations are looking to find a way to shut down our freedom online so they can control us and sell us what they want to sell us, just like they do with T.V.!
vintagegarden 4 years ago
That is why I reference Online Social Networking and am trying to raise awareness on this website that the concept of online community is not confined to YouTube (which for many here s the first time they've encountered it) and why people need to take control...otherwise corporations will influence legislation and gain control.
jrsnyderjr 4 years ago
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(DC) I forwarded this video to their inbox
- nate
natem20 4 years ago
first!
ournationalspace 4 years ago
second!
jrsnyderjr 4 years ago
Fantastic vlog JR, i await your next one with interest, meanwhile i'm off to look at your blog :-)
x hugs x
twish1999 4 years ago
Thanks Twish...wonderful to have you here good friend. Already starting work on the next one. Hug and a squeeze ;~}
jrsnyderjr 4 years ago
I also apologize for the tone, but Jesus... you are putting way too much into the internet. Statistically, Youtube's viewers are the most illiterate, uneducated, moronic people I've ever had the chance to view from a Freudian distance. There is NO COMMUNITY! "We" are not going anywhere! Just more midwest, yokel morons with Vista run computers. There is no revolution. Just technology that is doing NOTHING for humanity.
Defenseman 4 years ago
Sorry to interrupt, but I thought I just heard your mom say that the Hot Pockets were ready. FYI, the internet is a tool. Computers are no longer the property of students, the financially responsible or the desktop publishers... it's just another freaking medium of mediocrity. You might as well philosophize with a bunch of 12 year olds about getting pwned. Seriously. Or turn it the fuck off and play some pond hockey with me and talk to some real people.
Defenseman 4 years ago
This whole Renetto revolution thing has me very confused. Maybe I'm just blind to what's going on, but why do people think that YouTube owes them anything? I mean, it's a free site. If everyone is so unhappy here, why are they all still here?
LouRyder 4 years ago
It's not about people thinking YouTube owes them anything in my mind, I don't feel that way. Online social networking has grown into something that is part of people's everyday lives and there are things developing that maybe YT isn't meeting or people are outgrowing unless YT makes some changes. Technology is moving real fast and people are adapting to a new way of life with it, that's the revolution. Do you still use a landline phone much?
jrsnyderjr 4 years ago
Okay, I know nothing about social networking, so can you give me an example of what you mean by 'things are developing'. What is it that YouTube isn't giving you that you want so bad? Do other sites have it now, or is this some top secret experiment that you and Renetto are going to spring on everybody?
LouRyder 4 years ago
Online social networking is the interaction of people online such as MySpace, Facebook and with Avatars on Second Life. What made YouTube very unique is that it started as a video sharing site with the feature of an online forum where people could comment on the videos. What no one expected is that that would become a type of "chat" about the videos and people would connect with each other and keep coming back.
jrsnyderjr 4 years ago
Out of that an online community developed and vloggers started talking about each other and it. It became more than just a place to put up and watch video clips. The community aspect of it grew, contests happened (Lou), gatherings started, etc. No one expected that. With the purchase of YT by Google it stayed the same for awhile but last year Google started seeing this more as an entertainment venue and the community aspect as a revenue drag.
jrsnyderjr 4 years ago
In the mean time companies are beta testing technologies with video that is more interactive and focuses on the community aspect. They see it as a way to have an interactive video sharing online social networking site that invests in the community and the community in turn invest back in the business and that is how the money is made.
If YouTube doesn't want to do that then someone will...I don't have anything to spring on anyone. This stuff is in journals out there for anyone to read.
jrsnyderjr 4 years ago
JR, thanks for taking the time to explain what's going on with the social networking scene. I do find it very interesting, and I can see how Google sees our little community as a revenue drag, considering I have never clicked on an ad here on YouTube since I joined over a year and a half ago.
LouRyder 4 years ago
However, I'm very curious what you mean when you say "the community in turn invests back in the business, and that is how the money is made". Do you mean by paying a monthly fee to join a social networking site?
LouRyder 4 years ago
no...these sites (and YouTube if they chose to do it) would offer services or products that users would be more likely to opt into, purchase (click on an ad and buy), allow other users who have offsite businesses to be more open (within reason) to talk about their services. For example a much better ad on YT would be a video equipment ad, a service on solving common pc or video problems, connecting with that channels offsite website business, younger audience will go for music downloads.
jrsnyderjr 4 years ago
truthfully...how many people are pushing on the pink "push me for love" ad except as a mistake because of the deliberate 2-3 second delay on a partner channel? Who clicks on the sidebar ads that don't really relate to most users? You have to wonder...that model isn't going to work much longer and others see that. I don't want YT to lose but it's up to them to wake up.
jrsnyderjr 4 years ago
Very interesting.
Personally, I hate that my online relationships are making someone money. And, yes, I would feel very lost without the people I've met here.
phaedress 4 years ago
I don't mind if money facilitates the maintenance and improvement of the equipment, pays for people to be employed at equitable wages to run the thing, a fair return for people who invested in it. What I don't like in corporations is everything, including people and relationships being turned into a product to be marketed and sold...that's a different matter, which is what I think you're getting at.
jrsnyderjr 4 years ago
Good looking out for what been happening.
soloinpomona 4 years ago
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jrsnyderjr 4 years ago
Baileykix was here. I believe we should be allowed creative freedom on this site. For example, the use of whatever forms of media we choose to incorporate into our videos.
baileykix 4 years ago
That is a sentiment I totally agree with as long as we don't infringe on current copyright and not for the reasons people might think. I believe the people who are enforcing copyright so stringently will end up the losers because no one will use their stuff and people will create their own media that will be far better, fresher and more creative.
jrsnyderjr 4 years ago
I still think it should be ok to use parts of other sources of content if: 1. You mention somewhere in the video their name and title of work and 2. You're not recieving payment for the video itself. I mean it's not like I'd make any money from it.
baileykix 4 years ago
That's true, I hadn't thought of it that way. These artists are being a little too hard core and forgetting if you use parts of it, give them credit, you're actually giving them some free advertising.
jrsnyderjr 4 years ago
Part 1 ~ JR, I havent written YOutube about this yet but I am putting a long letter together but one of my ideas is an Copyright free button where popular artists and musicians and TV shows will allow clips or portions of there music in our videos. ~Raven
RadicalComedy 4 years ago
Part 2~ They can state what percent of the song but its a big pay off for them because they get perks for being generous. I think it should be listed 2 ways,...1)First come, first serve bases where the artists would agree are mentioned first...and 2) Alphabetical order. This would help. Artists could list the songs we could use, TV shows, etc., ~Raven
RadicalComedy 4 years ago
oh wow...i wonder how many views you are gonna get? just came by to see how things are going...
i bet you are dyin over there!
=)
achampag 4 years ago
I'm at 3000 since last refresh hours ago. I'm on P1 People & Blogs
#16 - Most Discussed (Today) - People & Blogs
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check your channel page comments!
jrsnyderjr 4 years ago
lol...try again...3751 and counting
=)
achampag 4 years ago
You're not known for understatements Reid...what you've stated is fact. Whether they wake up before they lose that asset is what we're asking ourselves I suppose...
jrsnyderjr 4 years ago
Well thought out and cleary stated. I just pressed the orange button:-)
Plus, I see you over at Snark's and love your sense of humor....AND, my sis lives in Cave Creek.
Hug Life, Marylou ^-^
blueclouds4me 4 years ago
Thank you for the compliment on my vid and subbing. Yes, I recognize you from Snark's place, like your comments over there. Cave Creek huh? Know that area pretty well! ;~}
jrsnyderjr 4 years ago
"When you look at the world we humans have created you may conclude that it was created by sleeping people, because awake, aware, conscious people would manifest a very different world. We have entered one of the most important periods in human history...We have the opportunity to lift ourselves to new levels of consciousness." JOHN PERKINS Dream Change (DC) founder, NY Times best selling author of Confessions of an Economic Hit Man and The Secret History of the American Empire.
natem20 4 years ago
That is an awesome quote, thanks for posting it here.
jrsnyderjr 4 years ago
ah! you had me fooled for a second.i thought it was paperlillies
misterfisherman 4 years ago
ha! I don't watch her much but I do on occasion.
jrsnyderjr 4 years ago
YOU ROCK, man! 5*
thebeigealert 4 years ago
and YOU ROCK!
jrsnyderjr 4 years ago
Great points. This is a start to a real life interfacing with online people. Many people on here and other sights have real relationships with people. Some of them to me are just like friends in real life situations. I care for them just the same.
mymoosejaw 4 years ago
Dave you have pinpointed the real revolutionary change, that we have now merged what we once separated as "irl" friends and "online" friends. A recognition that technology is not the barrier to how we feel about people.
jrsnyderjr 4 years ago
Good video, Great Points. 5*
hardcoredlw 4 years ago
thanks!
jrsnyderjr 4 years ago
There's a big discussion over portability this days...
fernandomares 4 years ago
It's interesting also how in many ways that portability mirrors the discussion on portability on the old social networking system...the telephone.
jrsnyderjr 4 years ago
So now it's come down to this:
a YouTube Revolution vs.
a possible YouTube Exodus,
which is being called a "Revolution"
to generate interest amongst Citizens.
OurTubeRevolution 4 years ago
It might be that the evolution of technology along with the online social networking revolution in society just naturally leads to some type of exodus...it could be away from YouTube if they don't change their corporate mindset and adapt. It doesn't have to be but the 21st is well underway...they own it, they choose to succeed or fail by using outdated marketing principles.
jrsnyderjr 4 years ago
Well said friend. Well said.
secondimpact 4 years ago
Thanks!
jrsnyderjr 4 years ago
Good points, but it looks like you were READING JR. I had that problem when I first start vlogging, but reading makes the message seem fabricated and not straight forward. Try not scripting your vlog next time, and see how it turns out. When a vlog is unscripted, its more from the heart and soul, and it comes out more honest than reading it.
ForFun808 4 years ago
Thanks for the input, I'll take that into consideration.
jrsnyderjr 4 years ago
No problem man, I like what you had to say!
ForFun808 4 years ago
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jrsnyderjr 4 years ago
i was thinking of making a vid on this subject, but you covered it 100 times better than i would have
tigerkatana 4 years ago
well...thanks for the compliment but I didn't mean to steal your thunder! I'm sure you have something worthwhile to say, I think this is on a lot of our minds.
jrsnyderjr 4 years ago
MIKMA WAS HERE
mikma 4 years ago
Mikma-did you get my PM? :)
ladypn 4 years ago
yes i did and yes i will
mikma 4 years ago
and thank you Mikma for being here and part of the YouTube community and everything that you do.
jrsnyderjr 4 years ago
YouTube has a natural advantage over sites like MySpace and Facebook because they take the user interaction to a deeper level via video. Video naturally being the next evolution point after a world that's primarily centered around textual content.
mattlaw25 4 years ago
There has to be a balance struck between a corporations need to satisfy it's fiduciary responsibilities and servicing the core of it's business. The user community here on YouTube is an incredible tool that YouTube can leverage to position itself as the leader in the next generation of social networking sites. They just have to be able to see the vision beyond all of their strategy.
mattlaw25 4 years ago
That sums it all up pretty well Matt...couldn't have said it better myself! excellent summary.
jrsnyderjr 4 years ago
Thanks JR.
mattlaw25 4 years ago
The hope of any social networking site is that by it's own simple use, a website will have the power to engage it's users/members in a learning experience about other people, cultures, religions, orientations, politics, ideas, etc that the user/member would not normally be involved with during the normal interactions that they face in their everyday lives. Thus said website opens the user up to a to a whole new world of experiences.
mattlaw25 4 years ago
Successes in these avenues are achieved everyday, at a multitude of sites. Simply conversing with someone in another city/state/region/country is now a commonplace experience for millions of people around the world, on a daily basis.
mattlaw25 4 years ago
For many people it is now an integral part of their life and they accept that experience not only as the norm but want to somehow take it to a different level.
jrsnyderjr 4 years ago
I agree that big corp's tend to lok only at the money and really should and need to consider the little people with this as it is the little people that will or will not make them their money after all. Great vid JR. As for where i am going, i haven't worked that out yet.
realnutty01 4 years ago
Kim I'm finding a lot of people are mulling this over and I'm thinking if we all stay put for a little while...what to do and where to go, if anywhere, will become well known. We'll meet in Stickam for the mad rush over! j/k ;~}
jrsnyderjr 4 years ago
I just love it when the facts speak so clearly AND they're delivered with measured thought-provoking examples that encapsulate all the elements. THANX for this!≡÷þ
PositiveLogic 4 years ago
Thanks for the compliment! I really do work at that, this was the second version of this video, I completely canned the first.
jrsnyderjr 4 years ago
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ladypn 4 years ago
thanks Pam ;~}
jrsnyderjr 4 years ago
*whenever
politicomark 4 years ago
You framed this issue very well. I think corporations are usually behind the curve in seeing opportunities and trends. They deal with money, so they are conservative by nature, but this does not always serve their long term interest. You should always take a double take, even you find yourself fighting with your own customers' expectations.
politicomark 4 years ago
Merger mania has made corporations lose touch with trends and customers base because everything has become just another product to be cranked out. That business model is beginning to fail I think.
jrsnyderjr 4 years ago
Couldn't agree more on that point JR.
mattlaw25 4 years ago
This is an amazing video JR, I realy enjoyed your analysis and I think you did a brilliant job at doing so and I am realy glad you are getting the deserved attention!
talking about youtube having issues:
2/3 of videos I should see (as I am subscribed to their makers) don't show up for me. I had to go to renetto's channel to find you. ;)
bwhahrhr 4 years ago
Thanks Matthias...I wondered what you would think of it. I didn't want to call your attention to it (especially after seeing your vid!) yeah, this is my first hit I guess!
I'm beginning to wonder about my sub box now because it seems like it's "short" of vids or they're showing up hours after.
jrsnyderjr 4 years ago
I am all for analisation, clear thoughts and getting preparing if one or more of "us" leaves youtube as you have done in your video
...but I am no friend of creating selffullfilling prophecies or advertisment for unexisting products. None of the later two I could find here :)
bwhahrhr 4 years ago
ok cool...
but back to youtube having issues, have you ever noticed in your own video comment thread when replying to comments next to your own name it has: Reply|Remove|Block User|Spam ?
Now why would you block yourself or mark yourself as spam?
jrsnyderjr 4 years ago
I often think about blocking myself... would be healthy for my offline-life, but thats actualy realy odd :)
bwhahrhr 4 years ago
I agree I've seen this before and it's very strange because I saw this on someone else's channel and they didn't even notice it until I had pointed it out. It was kinda odd because they were talking about their next video. :S
KaliSword 4 years ago
Thanks Pam!
jrsnyderjr 4 years ago
This is going to be featured on my site too.
natem20 4 years ago
thanks...appreciate that!
jrsnyderjr 4 years ago
Jr, you are very correct on your observations. I feel that the web has outstriped the conventional thinking of profit and loss statements. A whole new way of thinking is evolving and society, as is normal, playing catchup. The next step is upon us and very few see it. Thanks for sharing your views and learned insights..
Peace,
Allen
slowhand1954 4 years ago
Thanks Allen and I appreciate your insights as well in these matters. It's unfortunate also that people who run corporations and governments are also behind in their understanding of how quickly things are evolving.
jrsnyderjr 4 years ago
There is a school of thought that claims that corps and governmental agencies, do not want this type of evolution to come about To them it threatens the power structure that is in place. And it may!!!!
Peace,
Allen
slowhand1954 4 years ago
agreed...peace. JR
jrsnyderjr 4 years ago
Last comment, and I am now going to go take my Valium,lol....Some frustrations can never be solved. Its like putting a program that is a bunch of folks talking about their favorite food and showing that at the same time as Oprah. What gets heard is often based on its entertainment value. The vblogger is the eseence of youtube but even through creating a stronger community, the vblogger will always compete with the entertainment factor even if its just between vbloggers. ~Raven
RadicalComedy 4 years ago
Thanks for the insightful vlog. :)
ghostwise 4 years ago
You're welcome
jrsnyderjr 4 years ago
Apart of me feels like so much of the controversy is unreal. Realtiy like a community exists here doesnt seem to be catching. I feel it and I see it. I just dont see what it is that youtube is doing that is saying that they dont care. I just wants facts. I havent seen anything that warrants those judgments. ~Raven
RadicalComedy 4 years ago
Also, YOutube is a new corporation. They havent been around for 10 years. Every few months they change something and they do it for us. They neeed to change more and I beleive that they will but reality needs to sit within our anger. Youtube is growing. Being heard, getting promoted is slowly becoming rare because the vbloggers are growing. ~Raven
RadicalComedy 4 years ago
It's time for the on-line community to fuley move to the information age and the leave the coporations behind in the industrial age. The first step is transitioning to a satellite based medium.
nelsonforester 4 years ago
I'm all for leaving corporations behind!
jrsnyderjr 4 years ago
The only problem is that the corporations have loads of money and will try and buy out every outlet that we will try to make to thwart them. :( I'm for leaving corporations behind too but that's the biggest problem I see right now.
KaliSword 4 years ago
But then I think about it and YT is a corporation too. I don't think we will be able to truly get away from corporations themselves but maybe change the way corporations function and work.
KaliSword 4 years ago
i think even all the 'little' people should make money per view, not just the biggies like renetto....
except my total would be around a quarter of a dollar a month, lol.
ariestheramone 4 years ago
Very few partners are paid by views, that's a common mis-perception. Most partners are paid only for ad clicks. I think if you asked renetto he would agree that there should be an equitable and fair revenue sharing for everyone. That's why there's so much divisiveness on the site.
jrsnyderjr 4 years ago
it's actually good that they are not paid by views....you can cheat up the views, even without watching them.
ariestheramone 4 years ago
Hey J,
This is really intresting stuff and want to find out more. I just subscribed and became your number 200 subscriber so will be checking back for the updates.
All the best
DigBreamer the big dreamer - dreaming of change
DigBreamer 4 years ago
I dream of change and am all about change and moving forward.
Thanks so much for the sub...200 was my goal and I've finally made it!
jrsnyderjr 4 years ago
excellent video jr, i so appreciate you putting this information out and look forward to your future videos expanding on this topic.
well done.
txnrobin 4 years ago
gratz on the renetto page feature, JR!
snarkdetriomphe 4 years ago
Thanks Snark...you started this...
Remember our channel anniversary is on 02/24!
jrsnyderjr 4 years ago
The problem is alot of this controversy circles around people who dont understand the laws and what a corporation could face if youtube didnt censor. Its a no brainer. Its really easy. Go research the corporate lawsuits that happen in America and be ready to get shocked. You can sue for almost anything. ~Raven
RadicalComedy 4 years ago
Raven...I have an Advanced Paralegal Certificate from an ABA school and am a member of the local Bar Association Paralegal Division.
jrsnyderjr 4 years ago
JR, I am not negating your intelligence. I have 3 degrees and studied Math, Mechanical Engineering, Sociology and have written teh news for over 2 years. Since your aware of the law, than surely you understand why youtube censors and how this censorship is being misconscrued as youtube doenst care for the community becuase someone gets banned. ~Raven
RadicalComedy 4 years ago
I think it's very easy to misuse the term 'censorship'. It goes back to where JR pointed out that a lot of people don't understand issues with the use of copyrighted material. YouTube could have done a much better job of working with people to educate them on the ins and outs, the dos and don'ts.
mattlaw25 4 years ago
mattlaw25...good points. That "Fair Use" thing is quite the gray area. I think YOutube posting videos about that would help. ~Raven
RadicalComedy 4 years ago
hey, jr! I'm going to have to watch this again and Renetto's vid. I'm distracted:) I think if Youtube just makes a few changes, us slaves will shut-up. some more features, etc... I was really upset when they got rid of the Categories section and the featured channels. I thought that was a good thing.
johnnysmooth 4 years ago
A lot of those changes made a big difference in the way we watched stuff too. I agree with that totally.
jrsnyderjr 4 years ago
I want to hold an online debate about censorship and the community on Stickham. Folks need to be educated(not saying you) about the law and all the lawsuits youtube faces and still is behind what youtubers do. FOlks dont give a rats ass about that because its not there pocket. What happened to the good ole days where if we did something that could cost something to a stranger, that we felt bad about it? ~Raven
RadicalComedy 4 years ago
Raven I've been asked for several months to do that on Stickam and I wasn't sure people were ready for it. Seeing some of the responses on Paul's and my video as well as others I'm still not sure...there is a lot of misunderstanding on how all this works. Too much focus on personality and not on the issue
jrsnyderjr 4 years ago
You and I may have different perspectives on marketing, social issues, etc. but are passionate about what we think and believe and capable of holding (I think!) civilized discussions...it's about moving forward and reasonable discussion is the only way to do that.
jrsnyderjr 4 years ago
JR, I am all about civil debates. I am not a name caller, putting someone down stuff....I just like debating facts....there are plenty of lawsuits where people won against corporations which were lame and ridiculous. People will lie and do what they can to sue and if I owned Youtube, I would be scared to death. The money they put out with Viacom was high and their legal costs will grow. People want to say, to behave as they choose. I wish YOutube good luck. ~Raven
RadicalComedy 4 years ago
Your very civil and not a name caller that I know of.
I want YouTube to succeed as a commercial site where people can post videos that are responsible and abide by the TOS. I think that's reasonable and that a respectable online social network can co-exist with that.
jrsnyderjr 4 years ago
Part 1~ JR, I completely agree. A social network does co-exist but what I think youtube should do is create a community channel where all the pages existing right now, most discussed, most favorited, etc., are just for the commmunity. Now, I have looked at that idea and do see future problems or projections. For one...~Raven
RadicalComedy 4 years ago
Part 2~ At first, it would bring more exposure to vbloggers but not much more because there are what only 100 vids that can be promoted on each of those "most" sections. In about another year, I think its fair to say that vblogger heaven will probably double or grow significantly which means it will again be hard to get recognized. ~Raven
RadicalComedy 4 years ago
Part 3~ Then how will this new section differenciate whats vblogging? Some vbloggers make short films and isnt just about talking about how they feel about something or their life. Are people aware that entertainment tends to get more views that just chatting? ~Raven
RadicalComedy 4 years ago
Part 4~ Its reasonable to assume that in time, the community section will fill up with more commerical related ideas than just vbloggers talking...right? Fetishes, booty shakes, etc., will genuinely get more views than someone talking about what they did for the day, right? ~Raven
RadicalComedy 4 years ago
part 5~ If a person analizes the market and what sells, its not difficult to understand that entertainment, boobie thumbnails, etc., will make their mark on Youtube no matter what and the vblogger will have their small community and not get all the perks of community promotion. ~raven
RadicalComedy 4 years ago
part6~ The only way around fighting the market or what tends to get popular is to create a vblogger channel that isnt going to allow entertainment oriented vids. Where folks just talking without the high end editing skills, etc., would only be allowed. It would have to censor and trust me, there will be drama with that too. ~Raven
RadicalComedy 4 years ago
Part 7....I feel that the same problems or dilemmas will always exist on some margins due to popularity carried by numbers. One idea that I had was that peoples favorites on their profiles could get promoted on Youtube. I find more interesting vids there then the ones that get featured. ~Raven
RadicalComedy 4 years ago
The first rule, of course, has to be - "You'll never please everyone." It's simply impossible.
mattlaw25 4 years ago
People are saying youtube is removing accounts to screw with the community. How much BS is that? Its so victim like that its ridiculous. Yes, youtube needs to create a youtube channel, they need a 3 strikes your out game plan PRIOR to removing someones channel,(3 vids removed, warnings), they have to work on hiring more staff so there is more consistency on who gets disciplined, etc., stuff needs to change but...~Raven
RadicalComedy 4 years ago
We dont pay for this site. Its cost millions to run this badboy and we upload for free, gets out videos seen with an audience where we arent paying for a marketing company to do that for us, we have met amazing people, are entertained, etc., and we dont pay for anything. To expect a corporation to loose millions just so we can do whatever the hell we want is ignorance circled around people who dont know the law. ~Raven
RadicalComedy 4 years ago
I haven't been a real hardcore youtuber for very long but it is very easy to see that the community part of the online sites are losing their individuality and sense of community. Instead there are more profits being made for just being yourself online. It makes me sad.
KaliSword 4 years ago
It's making a lot of people sad...the communities actually make a lot of these sites what they are. There is nothing wrong with making a profit but exploitation of the community by squeezing every penny out will kill the community and eventually the site. Then what is left?
jrsnyderjr 4 years ago
Empty corporation crap that is basically just television online. :(
KaliSword 4 years ago
And that's where Renetto says YT is going.
mattlaw25 4 years ago
Lol I know I subscribe to Renetto. He's pretty awesome. I actually clicked on this because of him. XD So thanks to Renetto!!!
KaliSword 4 years ago
I find this topic very interesting because it's something I've noticed on other online communities too. Unfortunately the other sites like myspace and gaiaonline to name a few are "selling out" or becoming cooperate run. I always see these promotions for movies, shows, even just a company logo/product and it's something that I see has also invaded youtube.
KaliSword 4 years ago
excellent video, sir - 5 stars :-)
ournationalspace 4 years ago
thanks ons! ;~}
jrsnyderjr 4 years ago
I have been part of social groups online for well over 10 years now, with people having each others emails and phone numbers, meeting up and having parties ect, so in a way all this anxiety some people have about this community kind of makes me sit back and chuckle. I guess I have been there done that, so I know that sites and groups have their own ebb and flow.
peace
lee
beeleetoodles 4 years ago
JR, its nice talk....I like nice talk too but its impossible for a video user site to run for free without ads. Its so expensive that it would BLOW YOUR MIND! 2, FOlks just dont understand marketing, the law or the cost if they did, they would understand that Youtube has the right to make money and wouldnt be pissed off about the commercial end. Its actually quite silly. ~Raven
RadicalComedy 4 years ago
Part 2~ There are things that Youtube needs to change but its BS to be pissed off that google wants money since most of us arent saints or mother teresas of folks that would sacrifice their home for a STRANGER. It takes a whole lot of generosity to sacrifice loosing millions just so someone else can slander, defamation of character, use copyright etc., etc., ~Raven
RadicalComedy 4 years ago
Part 3~ If I owned Youtube I wouldnt be loosing millions so folks could screw me over.And the sad part about what I said, I just pissed alot of people who dont get that they would feel the same way if they owned youtube and it was about THEIR pocket.. ~Raven
RadicalComedy 4 years ago
Raven...you didn't piss me off and I've heard you on this topic elsewhere and I get where you are coming from. I have not responded to you previously because it was not my thread.
You would be mistaken if you think I do not understand marketing, far from the truth. No business can survive without a reasonable profit and enough of one to make improvements and increase the business. That's a fact.
jrsnyderjr 4 years ago
Since the 80's our business culture has been dominated my an M