This is an invitation to anyone or everyone see an artist theory on the physics of light and time!
This theory is based on two postulates
1. Is that the quantum wave particle function Ψ represents the forward passage of time ∆E ∆t ≥ h/2π itself
2. Is that Heisenberg’s Uncertainty Principle ∆×∆p×≥h/4π that is formed by the w- function is the same uncertainty we have with any future event that we can interact with turning the possible into the actual!
Point, but erm... what he's saying is a set of analogies trying to make you give up your sense of feeling as though you aren't right in your assumptions and you require someone else's ideas to govern yourself by. Karma is action, predetermined by our inherent sense of being alone, but when you don't fear being alone, your actions will still be determined by Karma but at a higher level of frequency, so its like we overcome certain aspects of our psyche, only to find more complex, less karmic...
Alan Watts is very vague on this issue of karma. If karma is action, and the goal of the yogi is to experience akarma, isn't that the basis of Ramesh Balsekar's notion that echoes from Hinduism as nondoership? Implying a fatalism in which the actions of the ego are seen as having been predetermined throughout all eternity, so they're not really your action, they're the actions of the eternal universe itself.
@Hanahleia The 'you'(the ego)you're talking about when you say "so they're not really your action" has no actual reality...it's a convention like the lines of latitude and longitude on a map. When one realizes the separate ego-self is an illusion, all that remains is "the eternal universe itself" which is the real you. So there is no fatalism because the ‘you’ that would be fated, the 'victim' (the illusory separate self) doesn't exist. All that remains is free spontaneous 'non-dualistic' action
@MacAggy Yes, but how would you address what Ramesh Balsekar is talking about? He's all over YouTube, if you'd just type his name and choose a video title that you're interested, I'd love to hear your take on his idea of 'enlightenment' is the realization that everything is predetermined, whether egoic or non-egoic.
@Hanahleia I haven't had time to check out Ramesh Balsekar yet but buy what you said in your comment: 'enlightenment is the realization that everything is predetermined, whether egoic or non-egoic'
When it comes down to it 'the word is not the actual thing' you can't quench your thirst with the word 'water'...you can't chop up the word 'tree' and get firewood for your fireplace... etc. The same with the word 'predetermined' it's a word which is defined by other words. (continued)
@Hanahleia That which is beyond words is neither determined nor predetermined. ‘Determined’ and ‘predetermined’ are concept cages in which we attempt to ‘confine’ and ‘define’ that which is uncontainable and unknowable. The word ‘I’ isn’t the actual I…it’s another attempt at defining or grasping the indefinable, ungraspable Self of the universe. Words, concepts, images etc. are wonderful tools though if not confused with the ‘real’.
@MacAggy Yes, I agree that the 'it' cannot be entirely understood conceptually. What may be 'it' is a higher dimension. This is glimpsed in the psychedelic experience or in deep states of meditation (refer to DMT). What would you do if you had to accept everything is predetermined? You may also be interested in taking a look at 'EgoDeath.com'.
Here's one suggestion, a video of Ramesh, and there's plenty others!
watch?v=NYMVTGWl83g
Please, when you've got time, review the suggestions.
@Hanahleia In the realm of thoughts and words everything is definitely predetermined. The alphabet and the possible arrangements of its letters already exists. All the questions you could ask yourself already have the answers that go with them. The word 'everything' isn't the actual 'everything'. For me to try and come to a conclusion about 'life' is like trying to form an opinion about a symphony when I've only listened half way through it. 'Life' is living and moving and can't be pinned down.
@MacAggy Yes, according to Ramesh, the "entire movie is already in the can," but the entire "can" exists in a higher dimension and consists of 'everything' that has happened eternally. So, in that sense, it's so vast and so complex that the human being can never understand, 'cause it consists of the 'whole.' Of course, these ideas and metaphors are indistinct ways for our minds to vaguely grasp something that's essentially incomprehensible. Did you have a chance to check out 'EgoDeath.com'?
@Hanahleia I agree with Ramesh on one hand but on the other hand: the entire movie 'is' both the entire movie and the can. The observer 'is' the observed. The thinker 'is' thought. So trying to put the entire movie in the can is like trying to put a box in itself. Like the very tip of the right index finger trying to touch the very tip of the right index finger.
@Hanahleia I started checking out EgoDeath.com but was interrupted by my kids. It looks interesting. I have to go to bed because I have work tomorrow. I'll be checking out that and the watch?v=NYMVTGWl83g Ramesh video tomorrow.
@Hanahleia I just checked out Ramesh Balsekar and from what I heard he was talking about how things just happen...it didn't sound fatalistic (that is unless one is caught up in the illusion that one is a separate self that is the victim of what happens). I'll be checking out more...thanks.
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This is an invitation to anyone or everyone see an artist theory on the physics of light and time!
This theory is based on two postulates
1. Is that the quantum wave particle function Ψ represents the forward passage of time ∆E ∆t ≥ h/2π itself
2. Is that Heisenberg’s Uncertainty Principle ∆×∆p×≥h/4π that is formed by the w- function is the same uncertainty we have with any future event that we can interact with turning the possible into the actual!
nickharvey7 2 months ago
This is my therapy
TheMihaeli 3 months ago 3
"but to the fully perfected student, mountains are-" *ends*
NOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
likeriver 6 months ago 12
@likeriver ..."But for the fully perfected student, mountains are again mountains and waters are again waters."
this is the continuation :)
devalah 4 months ago 3
@devalah Why, thank you so much.
Dominic1293 3 months ago
This makes some sense to me. Just thought it may spark more thought. Cos I aint fkn fearless. An I hate it.
Cylixx3 11 months ago
Point, but erm... what he's saying is a set of analogies trying to make you give up your sense of feeling as though you aren't right in your assumptions and you require someone else's ideas to govern yourself by. Karma is action, predetermined by our inherent sense of being alone, but when you don't fear being alone, your actions will still be determined by Karma but at a higher level of frequency, so its like we overcome certain aspects of our psyche, only to find more complex, less karmic...
Cylixx3 11 months ago
Alan Watts is very vague on this issue of karma. If karma is action, and the goal of the yogi is to experience akarma, isn't that the basis of Ramesh Balsekar's notion that echoes from Hinduism as nondoership? Implying a fatalism in which the actions of the ego are seen as having been predetermined throughout all eternity, so they're not really your action, they're the actions of the eternal universe itself.
Hanahleia 11 months ago
@Hanahleia The 'you'(the ego)you're talking about when you say "so they're not really your action" has no actual reality...it's a convention like the lines of latitude and longitude on a map. When one realizes the separate ego-self is an illusion, all that remains is "the eternal universe itself" which is the real you. So there is no fatalism because the ‘you’ that would be fated, the 'victim' (the illusory separate self) doesn't exist. All that remains is free spontaneous 'non-dualistic' action
MacAggy 11 months ago
@MacAggy Yes, but how would you address what Ramesh Balsekar is talking about? He's all over YouTube, if you'd just type his name and choose a video title that you're interested, I'd love to hear your take on his idea of 'enlightenment' is the realization that everything is predetermined, whether egoic or non-egoic.
Hanahleia 10 months ago
@Hanahleia I haven't had time to check out Ramesh Balsekar yet but buy what you said in your comment: 'enlightenment is the realization that everything is predetermined, whether egoic or non-egoic'
When it comes down to it 'the word is not the actual thing' you can't quench your thirst with the word 'water'...you can't chop up the word 'tree' and get firewood for your fireplace... etc. The same with the word 'predetermined' it's a word which is defined by other words. (continued)
MacAggy 10 months ago
@Hanahleia That which is beyond words is neither determined nor predetermined. ‘Determined’ and ‘predetermined’ are concept cages in which we attempt to ‘confine’ and ‘define’ that which is uncontainable and unknowable. The word ‘I’ isn’t the actual I…it’s another attempt at defining or grasping the indefinable, ungraspable Self of the universe. Words, concepts, images etc. are wonderful tools though if not confused with the ‘real’.
All this I’ve written isn’t ‘IT’ either.
MacAggy 10 months ago
@MacAggy Yes, I agree that the 'it' cannot be entirely understood conceptually. What may be 'it' is a higher dimension. This is glimpsed in the psychedelic experience or in deep states of meditation (refer to DMT). What would you do if you had to accept everything is predetermined? You may also be interested in taking a look at 'EgoDeath.com'.
Here's one suggestion, a video of Ramesh, and there's plenty others!
watch?v=NYMVTGWl83g
Please, when you've got time, review the suggestions.
Hanahleia 10 months ago
@Hanahleia In the realm of thoughts and words everything is definitely predetermined. The alphabet and the possible arrangements of its letters already exists. All the questions you could ask yourself already have the answers that go with them. The word 'everything' isn't the actual 'everything'. For me to try and come to a conclusion about 'life' is like trying to form an opinion about a symphony when I've only listened half way through it. 'Life' is living and moving and can't be pinned down.
MacAggy 10 months ago
@MacAggy Yes, according to Ramesh, the "entire movie is already in the can," but the entire "can" exists in a higher dimension and consists of 'everything' that has happened eternally. So, in that sense, it's so vast and so complex that the human being can never understand, 'cause it consists of the 'whole.' Of course, these ideas and metaphors are indistinct ways for our minds to vaguely grasp something that's essentially incomprehensible. Did you have a chance to check out 'EgoDeath.com'?
Hanahleia 10 months ago
@Hanahleia I agree with Ramesh on one hand but on the other hand: the entire movie 'is' both the entire movie and the can. The observer 'is' the observed. The thinker 'is' thought. So trying to put the entire movie in the can is like trying to put a box in itself. Like the very tip of the right index finger trying to touch the very tip of the right index finger.
MacAggy 10 months ago
@Hanahleia I started checking out EgoDeath.com but was interrupted by my kids. It looks interesting. I have to go to bed because I have work tomorrow. I'll be checking out that and the watch?v=NYMVTGWl83g Ramesh video tomorrow.
MacAggy 10 months ago
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MacAggy 10 months ago
@Hanahleia I just checked out Ramesh Balsekar and from what I heard he was talking about how things just happen...it didn't sound fatalistic (that is unless one is caught up in the illusion that one is a separate self that is the victim of what happens). I'll be checking out more...thanks.
MacAggy 10 months ago