Well, I hope you get sued. The guy never left the store as shown in the video. All I saw was an assault take place and one LP getting fired for false arrest and too much force. You can see he had the intent to leave the store but he did not. I am and LP investigator and I have had plenty of people take shit . walk to the door and drop it and NEVER leave the store. Bad call on your part, a judge could easily say he never left the store.
@swishablowa420 Not that it matters, but the founder of Target (George Dayton) grew up in a middle class family. He was a self made millionaire. He almost didn't become rich, because he wanted to be a minister. But instead he went into business and began buying mortgages. 80% of all millionaires are first generation. Like I said though, that really doesn't matter because it's every bit as bad to steal from a rich person as it is from a poor person.
Well I have to be honest this is my 10th year working in loss prevention catching shoplifters. I don't know what your company's detention methods are but I have to say takeling the suspect when they haven't displayed violence or attempted to flee is probably not the best thing. Yes I firmly understand that each situation is different however I don't see cause for those actions. Too often young/new LP's don't receive the correct training and overeact. LP's that have been trained don't do this.
@13haunter Please tell me that you don't work for Walmart, the worst company in the world to work Loss Prevention at. They don't even let their LP people carry hand cuffs.
@fishrcoolturtles2 no you don't. It's pretty obvious he wasn't going to pay for it. That big ass television instead of going to the register to pay he's about 2 feet from exiting the store.
@fishrcoolturtles2 Believe it or not, no. In most states the law is upon concealment is considered theft. In this case the suspect did exit the store and here is why: once the suspect places the merchandise between or past the alarm then it is theft. The arrest was lawful BUT the detention method was excessive.
@3scapistHD and where is the assault man? i mean ... good night gentleman allow to indtroduce myself my name is Larry and im glad to arrest you in this moment excuse me sir i must put you in detention we have a comfortable seat coffee and danish cookies...
why a simple push is an assault? shoplifter could have a knife; moderate force is needed sometimes and this is an example of moderate force
@MarcoTUV The law is like that, I work that position, and you wanna know?, that guy can not just defend hem self but also complaining compensation , just because he ""DIDNT CROSS THE DOORS AND NO BODY ASK FOR THE RECEIVE". Even if you have 99% he is a robbery, no "BODY WANNA PLAY THAT 1%".
@rolando4020 Seriously please learn how to spell or even speak English. Back to your post, technically the suspect did cross the threshold of the exit by pushing the cart with unpaid merchandise in it entering the EAS system so there was a theft. I think you meant nobody asked for the receipt (not "receive"). You are correct in that it's not necessary to ask for one. It appears to be a felony amount of theft so I understand using caution but seriously? THAT WAS EXCESSIVE!!!
@13haunter I hope you can understand now, the law is if ""YOU KEEP OUT THE STORE DOOR MERCHANDISE WITH OUT PAID"" and yes is excessive!!, and yes he have to ask for RECEIPT ( thanks), because the suspect didnt hind in pocket or bag pack, even he dont try to roan, you can hold the hands but not hit or bring down, is unsafe for all, the suspect , for you and a other customer .( and I continue learn spell and speak English thank for you understanding).
Technically the guy didn't steal anything. He never got outside the store with the merchandise before he was assaulted by LP. I do like how you went all Ray Lewis on the guy though
Honestly, I dont get why people are getting butt hurt. The narration was intersting, you seem like a cool guy. You are honestly the first man making less than 15 dollars an hour who is not a complete faggot.
Your a fucking tool! Fucking fag! I dont understand why these people who steal don't at least try and get some face shots on you punks. If I was trying to survive and I had to steal a t.v., and some fucking super hero tried to Goldburg spear me, I would at least be aiming to break something on your face!
@swishablowa420 Chill out dude. 1st the guy is doing his job by arresting the suspect. Yes, it was far too excessive and that's what happens when proper training isn't conducted. The LP should have been fired in my opinion. 2nd if someone is stealing to "survive" then that is a load of BS. Steal food not electronics.
@13haunter If you steal food you'll have to do it everyday. If you steal something worth money you can use the money to better your self. Don't get me wrong i'm not for stealing, just sometimes rent-a-cops take it too far. These people arnt committing a violent crime. The only victim is a billion dollar corporation that's barely even pays its employees. Good to hear you think he should be fired though. You guys arnt all like that. But the dude on this video is a bitch. No getting around it!
@swishablowa420 You're an idiot. The victims are everyone that works and shops at that billion dollar store, and society as a whole. Do you have any idea how much cheaper everything would be if no one stole??? And stop being so jealous. Companies get to be worth a $billion because the people that own them are very smart and work very hard. You ought to try it some day.
@HorrorFreak68 The amount of money these corporations loose a year is about what they make off their fountain pop machine. No employees are loosing money. Again, i'm not for stealing but there are NO victims in petty thefts like this on major corps. The security didn't have to go full balls on the guy walking out the door. The guy wasn't endangering anyone. BTW these people had millions before they started the company. So it wasn't really hard work. When you have money its simple to make more.
I've been doing loss prevention for over 22 years, and while I think the guy was definitely going to steal, I don't see a single thing the LP did right here. Too much force, stop was too soon. Lawsuit waiting to happen.
@RoguePlanet I agree I work LP and there was no since in going to that extreme. Now if the guy had began to fight by all means do what is necessary to restrain him.
Props man that dude didn't see it coming. Oh and for all them ignorant people once the suspect passes all points of sale meaning the EAS system the prosecutor can prof intent in any court of law. And as to the forceful action it was adequate in my opinion
For those of us who don't know: Which laws applied in this case (and which state did this take place)?
Specifically:
1) At what point did his actions meet the legal requirement for being shoplifting? (ie, the point at which he would fail at claiming he was not stealing) A lay person might think since he never actually left the store, he might have a defense.
2) What law allowed for the use of force in this case? ie. Would you be protected if he sued you for unreasonable force?
its shoplifting at any time in the store....you do not have to leave the store.... i have 3 counts of shoplifting. 3 counts of concealment. i use to hit up 12 syores a day the charges are worth all the awesome shit you do get aay with.
@nonindividualist your comments show your ignorance. A court of law -in actual, real life, says this was legal. Any lawsuit against a store security officer using reasonable force to detain a larger than himself, by himself, would never have seen the light of day. But thanks for watching. Asshole.
@nonindividualist Ya,Im a police officer in Montana and that was illegal what you did to that Man.Im not saying what the shoplifter did was right but if you did that hear I would have to put you in jail.And another thing you have to wait for them to get out the store
@motti15 not steal when i buy there, i mean big corporates do bad deals all the time where they steal from who knows who, they use cheap labor in 3rd world nations, all kinds of bad stuff.
@EnvelTheTrader Ohhhh ok, I gotcha. Yeah, it's honestly sad that big coorporations rip off people who work hard for a living in other countries. I always try and support "fair trade" to know that the money is going to those who actually work hard to give you the items you have.
Your weak attempt of comedy narration over the incident is telling, You must know that this foolhardy practice you played, Would go against you eventually, Lets say you did get hurt ? You would have sustained an injury, And you have risked your life for a few dollars an hour, And trust me, Wall Mart would have not given a fuck about you, Only the dip in trade while they sorted it out
@GetsomeKAndy Things have come along way, policies have changed. If you have ever worked in any loss prevention/security type of field, you would know how ugly things get real fast. The cart's are red, looks like Circuit City or maybe Target. I have no respect for any kind of thieve, I would have done the same thing.
@NicendFF It`s not really all that confusing , He put the video on You Tube with him and his bint waffling over it, Trying to act the big man, But, Viewed by most, He looks like a twat on a low wage power trip, recently in the UK Some bloke had to be taken air ambulance, To help save his arm and his life, And he would not have been using this blokes tactics either, It`s not all fun and games, It real life, And it can quickly go very wrong for you, Especially if you asking for it
@wicca584 I'm hardly the big man. I'm 5'6". And it's ridiculous to compare this situation to one where someone had to be airlifted to a hospital. This shoplifter was never in any danger of sustaining actual injury. All this guy suffered from after was a bruised ego after being arrested by a guy a foot shorter than him. Please understand that I do understand that this is not the proper way to make a stop. That's why it's funny. Nerd.
@GetsomeKAndy Playing the big man is a phrase, " Shoplifter was never in any danger of getting hurt " Although you now do admit you acted unprofessionally, Your still deluding yourself, It`s usually the guard off to hospital, You cannot possible know who`s coming through the door, That`s the industry risk, But, How exactly is it completely different situation ? A guard kicking off with shoplifter in supermarket ? If you think it`s just funny, And a bit of a game, Tell him that
MoilAndToil Who knew there were so many legal experts on here? Passing point of sale is a company policy not a law. In Massachusetts it's legal to apprehend upon concealment or intent. Keyword here being intent.
By LAW (if not policy), I was within my rights to detain. And no, the case was not dismissed. The subject had a record, big surprise. He admitted to the theft. And when confronted with the video evidence, the public defender opted to plea bargain. So please blow me.
He didn't steal it. It never left the store. Passing pay points is not enough. . Would be good to hear the case dismissed, but we won't because it is not in line with the received wisdom from fred and nancy doing the voice-over. . . Cheers. from, del-boy.
@MoilAndToil Who knew there were so many legal experts on here? Passing point of sale is a company policy not a law. In Massachusetts it's legal to apprehend upon concealment or intent. Keyword here being intent. By LAW (if not policy), I was within my rights to detain. And no, the case was not dismissed. The subject had a record, big surprise. He admitted to the theft. And when confronted with the video evidence, the public defender opted to plea bargain. So please blow me.
@MoilAndToil So many differances in laws between states. In my state we must have visual contact of the shoplifter at all times. We must see them take it off the shelf, coneceal it, keep eyes on them the entire time, and see them pass the point of sale.
@GetsomeKAndy no worries man. dont get me wrong, the video is funny. i love seeing shop lifters get taken down. but your commentary kills it. and the chick commenting on shit was probably the most ridiculous part... is she that red head in your picture? if so, tell her its time to let that go...
@GetsomeKAndy By NO means am i defending him but before the tackle he was actually moving away from the doors. What makes it shoplifting if he is still in the store? because he is past the checkouts? at my local walmart there is a big dispaly of items just past the checkouts. if i touch them am i a shoplifter too??? Plsz educate me....
@1982mitzy intent makes it shoplifting. And yes, because he is past the registers -attempting to exit. If there are tv's outside your wal-mart and you touch them, you're obviously not stealing. BUT if you grab one and throw it inside your cart without regard for price or product details and then make for the exit... and then you get apprehended and admit that you were stealing... then it's shoplifting.
@GetsomeKAndy I see your point. If i were that scum bag i would have tried to fight the charges. Saying, " i did regard the price and product info because i reasearched it online at home, witch manny ppl do" and "i was trying to find my wife because she controls the mony lol". ..... The INTENT seems much harder to prove than just letting him walk an additional 5 feet out the doors. AND BANG deffinately shoplifting.
....its never worth it....u over did it buddy...this is coming from one of the best who had also learn a valuable lesson on one stop that I used too much force...
It's also a poor idea for a store to have the electronics section so close to the door because stores know electronics is a target for thieves. I suspect this store has been remodeled or demolished since.
@qscott86 seriously, right? All of the "greatland" targets were set up that way. Just goes to show how little regard the stores have for AP. Don't get me wrong though, it was great for us. You just watch that door all day and chase people down.
Always nice to see people on here defending the rights of a thief. Heh. All of us pay more for everything because of shoplifters. That's not to say this situation could not have been handled differently, but the shoplifter is the one at fault.
@qscott86 Yeah, people (especially on here) tend to see the shoplifter as a victim. You make a good point about prices being higher.... not to mention the fact that this guy was almost a foot taller than me, with a pocket knife. I stand by my decision to remove his opportunity to go for it.
I was in Assets Protection. Thats good stuff. For all those people who claim liability BS. Keep in mind the guy said 2002, This Company hadnt set in too many "liability crap" like they do now. Good Stuff guy, I've had the pleasure of "politely talking" to shoplifters as well, great adrenaline rush!
what store is that???...lol idk if u guys should be doing that...u could get fired...but if u guys could do that ...then great job lol ...but it was a lil ruff though,...my fiance cant do that ..bcuz we work at sears...and we have rules...sears suks...lol a lil...but yea my fiance went through alot ...he almost got stabbed but thank god he didnt..he only got cut...he got into fights..but it was only self defense...and he got attacked by a girl..and alot more..now hes a ass. manger as lp
@usagora Liability? That's for people who can afford a lawyer to sue. Also, I'm 5'6" he's 6'3" - not like he's getting injured. And believe me, I politely asked guys like this plenty of times before and its always a fight. And yes, he did have a knife in his pocket so I stand by my decision to remove his opportunity to draw it.
@MonsterSlayer1965 The district attorney never even saw the case. This guys public defender saw the evidence and pled him out fast. It was a probation violation on top of the larceny theft so he did time. Short time -but still time. And yes, he did pass all points of sale so all elements were observed. You have to remember that company policy can be interpreted different ways but its the law that matters.
REALLY A FUCKING TACO!!!? FUCKING STUPID ASS SECURITY HOW YOU SURE HE IS STILLING THAT???? HE IS NOT EVEN OUTSIDE!!! AND HE DIDNT PASS THE DOOR I WILL FUCKING SUE YOUR DUMASS..
FAIL. target asset protection policy and most municipal laws state that the person must be outside of the store, before u can apprehend him/her. and does target know u are posting their videos on you tube (probably not)
@GetsomeKAndy Good video of your apprehension. I use to be a APS too a couple of years ago. I have several video's of my apprehensions that got out of control. I will upload them if you would like to see them.
@kansas66204 That is not entirely true. Depending on the state you are located in, once they pass the registers hence ALL POINTS OF SALE, they may be subject to arrest. They Target store I worked in (NYC), once you passed the registers, you were only a few feet from exiting. There weren't any vestibules at that location.
@kansas66204 Actually that isn't Target's policy at all and also, most municipal laws state all the person has to do is show intent. This means they don't even need to be at the front of the store or even close to outside. You should really check your facts before you post. FAIL
@Kory4000 have u worked for target security? most likely not -and targets own policy states that a suspect is not to be apprehended in no way fashion or form while in the store, the asset protection team is simply to call law enforcement, the video is the proof- the crime has occured, no need to risk injury 2 anyone (including the shoplifter) next time before u make comment, know what you talking about ok? since i have worked there in the past, i know what the policy is. NUFF SAID !
@kansas66204 Actually what he said towards the middle is the correct answer. It's after the last point-of-sale that you are allowed to detain them (not apprehend, that is a synonymous word for arrest and AP cannot legally do that). You are right though, he is not allowed to be posting this video since it is propietery property of Target. And why is he calling himself a "detective"? They were called Assests Protection Specialists and Target Protection Specialists. I used to be a TPS myself.
This was pretty amazing. Im just a team member at Target but a lot has changed since this vid. Someone could walk right out of the store with stolen merchandise and we're only allowed to say "Can I help you find something?". Even AP cannot do much. Nothing would make me happier than to lay these people flat like this. Classy
Well, I hope you get sued. The guy never left the store as shown in the video. All I saw was an assault take place and one LP getting fired for false arrest and too much force. You can see he had the intent to leave the store but he did not. I am and LP investigator and I have had plenty of people take shit . walk to the door and drop it and NEVER leave the store. Bad call on your part, a judge could easily say he never left the store.
9119boomer 1 day ago
@swishablowa420 Not that it matters, but the founder of Target (George Dayton) grew up in a middle class family. He was a self made millionaire. He almost didn't become rich, because he wanted to be a minister. But instead he went into business and began buying mortgages. 80% of all millionaires are first generation. Like I said though, that really doesn't matter because it's every bit as bad to steal from a rich person as it is from a poor person.
HorrorFreak68 2 days ago
ZOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMM!!!!!!!!!!!!
Kuronekaux 1 week ago
hispanic guy? (thief)
TecmoBO34 1 week ago
Well I have to be honest this is my 10th year working in loss prevention catching shoplifters. I don't know what your company's detention methods are but I have to say takeling the suspect when they haven't displayed violence or attempted to flee is probably not the best thing. Yes I firmly understand that each situation is different however I don't see cause for those actions. Too often young/new LP's don't receive the correct training and overeact. LP's that have been trained don't do this.
13haunter 1 week ago
@13haunter Personally I LOVED it. That piece of shit thief deserved everything he got, and much more!
HorrorFreak68 4 days ago
@13haunter Please tell me that you don't work for Walmart, the worst company in the world to work Loss Prevention at. They don't even let their LP people carry hand cuffs.
HorrorFreak68 2 days ago
he didn't leave the store what the fuck to steal something don't you have to be outside
fishrcoolturtles2 1 week ago
@fishrcoolturtles2 no you don't. It's pretty obvious he wasn't going to pay for it. That big ass television instead of going to the register to pay he's about 2 feet from exiting the store.
Illiyuwn 6 days ago
@fishrcoolturtles2 Believe it or not, no. In most states the law is upon concealment is considered theft. In this case the suspect did exit the store and here is why: once the suspect places the merchandise between or past the alarm then it is theft. The arrest was lawful BUT the detention method was excessive.
13haunter 5 days ago
@3scapistHD and where is the assault man? i mean ... good night gentleman allow to indtroduce myself my name is Larry and im glad to arrest you in this moment excuse me sir i must put you in detention we have a comfortable seat coffee and danish cookies...
why a simple push is an assault? shoplifter could have a knife; moderate force is needed sometimes and this is an example of moderate force
MarcoTUV 1 week ago
@MarcoTUV The law is like that, I work that position, and you wanna know?, that guy can not just defend hem self but also complaining compensation , just because he ""DIDNT CROSS THE DOORS AND NO BODY ASK FOR THE RECEIVE". Even if you have 99% he is a robbery, no "BODY WANNA PLAY THAT 1%".
rolando4020 6 days ago
@rolando4020 Seriously please learn how to spell or even speak English. Back to your post, technically the suspect did cross the threshold of the exit by pushing the cart with unpaid merchandise in it entering the EAS system so there was a theft. I think you meant nobody asked for the receipt (not "receive"). You are correct in that it's not necessary to ask for one. It appears to be a felony amount of theft so I understand using caution but seriously? THAT WAS EXCESSIVE!!!
13haunter 5 days ago
@13haunter I hope you can understand now, the law is if ""YOU KEEP OUT THE STORE DOOR MERCHANDISE WITH OUT PAID"" and yes is excessive!!, and yes he have to ask for RECEIPT ( thanks), because the suspect didnt hind in pocket or bag pack, even he dont try to roan, you can hold the hands but not hit or bring down, is unsafe for all, the suspect , for you and a other customer .( and I continue learn spell and speak English thank for you understanding).
rolando4020 5 days ago
@13haunter That was not the least bit excessive. That was pure AWESOME.
HorrorFreak68 4 days ago
@MarcoTUV lol... there was way too much force in this case
13haunter 5 days ago
the company that you used to work for steals from every American so your just helping out with that. thats a pity job get a real one
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Technically the guy didn't steal anything. He never got outside the store with the merchandise before he was assaulted by LP. I do like how you went all Ray Lewis on the guy though
imAwesome4lyfe 2 weeks ago
Honestly, I dont get why people are getting butt hurt. The narration was intersting, you seem like a cool guy. You are honestly the first man making less than 15 dollars an hour who is not a complete faggot.
LOLuPooped 3 weeks ago
Your a fucking tool! Fucking fag! I dont understand why these people who steal don't at least try and get some face shots on you punks. If I was trying to survive and I had to steal a t.v., and some fucking super hero tried to Goldburg spear me, I would at least be aiming to break something on your face!
swishablowa420 3 weeks ago
@swishablowa420 you NEED a TV to survive....?
Illiyuwn 6 days ago
@Illiyuwn T.V.'s are worth money. And money is the most important thing to survive.
swishablowa420 5 days ago
@swishablowa420 Chill out dude. 1st the guy is doing his job by arresting the suspect. Yes, it was far too excessive and that's what happens when proper training isn't conducted. The LP should have been fired in my opinion. 2nd if someone is stealing to "survive" then that is a load of BS. Steal food not electronics.
13haunter 5 days ago
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swishablowa420 5 days ago
@13haunter If you steal food you'll have to do it everyday. If you steal something worth money you can use the money to better your self. Don't get me wrong i'm not for stealing, just sometimes rent-a-cops take it too far. These people arnt committing a violent crime. The only victim is a billion dollar corporation that's barely even pays its employees. Good to hear you think he should be fired though. You guys arnt all like that. But the dude on this video is a bitch. No getting around it!
swishablowa420 5 days ago
@swishablowa420 You're an idiot. The victims are everyone that works and shops at that billion dollar store, and society as a whole. Do you have any idea how much cheaper everything would be if no one stole??? And stop being so jealous. Companies get to be worth a $billion because the people that own them are very smart and work very hard. You ought to try it some day.
HorrorFreak68 4 days ago
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@HorrorFreak68 The amount of money these corporations loose a year is about what they make off their fountain pop machine. No employees are loosing money. Again, i'm not for stealing but there are NO victims in petty thefts like this on major corps. The security didn't have to go full balls on the guy walking out the door. The guy wasn't endangering anyone. BTW these people had millions before they started the company. So it wasn't really hard work. When you have money its simple to make more.
swishablowa420 3 days ago
@HorrorFreak68 Your a ho just like the ex rent-a-cop talking on the video.
swishablowa420 3 days ago
@swishablowa420 And you're probably a no talent faggot thief, just like the one that got nailed in the video!!! HahahahahahahahHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HorrorFreak68 2 days ago
get down bitch lol thats was epic lol
gene86655 3 weeks ago
I've been doing loss prevention for over 22 years, and while I think the guy was definitely going to steal, I don't see a single thing the LP did right here. Too much force, stop was too soon. Lawsuit waiting to happen.
RoguePlanet 3 weeks ago 2
@RoguePlanet I agree I work LP and there was no since in going to that extreme. Now if the guy had began to fight by all means do what is necessary to restrain him.
byubnu 3 weeks ago 2
He got knocked the fuck out!
entrykit00 3 weeks ago
Props man that dude didn't see it coming. Oh and for all them ignorant people once the suspect passes all points of sale meaning the EAS system the prosecutor can prof intent in any court of law. And as to the forceful action it was adequate in my opinion
ramonsoto1212 3 weeks ago
For those of us who don't know: Which laws applied in this case (and which state did this take place)?
Specifically:
1) At what point did his actions meet the legal requirement for being shoplifting? (ie, the point at which he would fail at claiming he was not stealing) A lay person might think since he never actually left the store, he might have a defense.
2) What law allowed for the use of force in this case? ie. Would you be protected if he sued you for unreasonable force?
Good video.
yargor 3 weeks ago
@3scapistHD weird. I'd think the junkie getting hard core busted by the $12 an hour LP guy would be the loser... But I guess you know better than me.
GetsomeKAndy 4 weeks ago
honestly really liked the narration(:
facemouth83 4 weeks ago 2
@facemouth83 Thank you! It just felt weird to upload a video with no audio whatsoever...
GetsomeKAndy 4 weeks ago
"yea everybody weeens!" lmao
walker22706 1 month ago
Stupid cracker stealin
camolouiebutler 1 month ago
its shoplifting at any time in the store....you do not have to leave the store.... i have 3 counts of shoplifting. 3 counts of concealment. i use to hit up 12 syores a day the charges are worth all the awesome shit you do get aay with.
AlannaNarcotic 1 month ago
@AlannaNarcotic haha awesome.
GetsomeKAndy 1 month ago
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silentFATAL 1 month ago
its not actually stealing till you get threw the front doors
TheScorpion5121 1 month ago
@TheScorpion5121 I would think a lawyer would be able to spell "through" but thanks for the legal advice.
GetsomeKAndy 1 month ago
I just witnessed an assault, and an illegal detention.
I would sue your ass.
nonindividualist 1 month ago
@nonindividualist your comments show your ignorance. A court of law -in actual, real life, says this was legal. Any lawsuit against a store security officer using reasonable force to detain a larger than himself, by himself, would never have seen the light of day. But thanks for watching. Asshole.
GetsomeKAndy 1 month ago
@nonindividualist Ya,Im a police officer in Montana and that was illegal what you did to that Man.Im not saying what the shoplifter did was right but if you did that hear I would have to put you in jail.And another thing you have to wait for them to get out the store
chriscavesymail 1 month ago
@chriscavesymail Oh please.
GetsomeKAndy 1 month ago
Too obvious.
dxdude2004 1 month ago
@josetrueg Also, Target's policy is visually seeing the action with your eyes on the floor.
Flaubero 1 month ago
-no shoplifters were harmed in the making of this video-
Andy
awwww but why
radioactivetestis 1 month ago
that corporate store steals 24/7.
EnvelTheTrader 1 month ago 8
@EnvelTheTrader Who does Target steal from?
GetsomeKAndy 1 month ago
@GetsomeKAndy us all. educate urself, if ur rich 99% of time u steal.
EnvelTheTrader 1 month ago
@GetsomeKAndy You're either a complete idiot or part of the 1% that the rest of us are not.
MrSleazemetal 1 month ago
@EnvelTheTrader Agreed.
MrSleazemetal 1 month ago
@EnvelTheTrader No one says you have to shop there then if you think that. If you think a company "steals" from you, then just don't deal with them.
motti15 1 week ago
@motti15 not steal when i buy there, i mean big corporates do bad deals all the time where they steal from who knows who, they use cheap labor in 3rd world nations, all kinds of bad stuff.
EnvelTheTrader 1 week ago
@EnvelTheTrader Ohhhh ok, I gotcha. Yeah, it's honestly sad that big coorporations rip off people who work hard for a living in other countries. I always try and support "fair trade" to know that the money is going to those who actually work hard to give you the items you have.
motti15 1 week ago
@josetrueg Thanks for the tip, guy who doesn't make apprehensions.
GetsomeKAndy 1 month ago
Your weak attempt of comedy narration over the incident is telling, You must know that this foolhardy practice you played, Would go against you eventually, Lets say you did get hurt ? You would have sustained an injury, And you have risked your life for a few dollars an hour, And trust me, Wall Mart would have not given a fuck about you, Only the dip in trade while they sorted it out
wicca584 1 month ago 11
@wicca584 NERD ALERT!
GetsomeKAndy 1 month ago
@GetsomeKAndy Things have come along way, policies have changed. If you have ever worked in any loss prevention/security type of field, you would know how ugly things get real fast. The cart's are red, looks like Circuit City or maybe Target. I have no respect for any kind of thieve, I would have done the same thing.
tmartinez91084 1 month ago
@GetsomeKAndy Your response to wicca584 confuses me.
NicendFF 1 month ago
@NicendFF It`s not really all that confusing , He put the video on You Tube with him and his bint waffling over it, Trying to act the big man, But, Viewed by most, He looks like a twat on a low wage power trip, recently in the UK Some bloke had to be taken air ambulance, To help save his arm and his life, And he would not have been using this blokes tactics either, It`s not all fun and games, It real life, And it can quickly go very wrong for you, Especially if you asking for it
wicca584 1 month ago
@wicca584 I'm hardly the big man. I'm 5'6". And it's ridiculous to compare this situation to one where someone had to be airlifted to a hospital. This shoplifter was never in any danger of sustaining actual injury. All this guy suffered from after was a bruised ego after being arrested by a guy a foot shorter than him. Please understand that I do understand that this is not the proper way to make a stop. That's why it's funny. Nerd.
GetsomeKAndy 1 month ago
@GetsomeKAndy Playing the big man is a phrase, " Shoplifter was never in any danger of getting hurt " Although you now do admit you acted unprofessionally, Your still deluding yourself, It`s usually the guard off to hospital, You cannot possible know who`s coming through the door, That`s the industry risk, But, How exactly is it completely different situation ? A guard kicking off with shoplifter in supermarket ? If you think it`s just funny, And a bit of a game, Tell him that
wicca584 1 month ago
@wicca584 You have no testicles.
GetsomeKAndy 1 month ago
@NicendFF I'm calling that commenter a nerd because he's taking things too seriously.
GetsomeKAndy 1 month ago
@wicca584 umm that target not walmart
thewatcher3035 1 month ago
@wicca584 You sir said everything i wanted to say and more, kudos!
MrSleazemetal 1 month ago
@wicca584 Just because you are a selfish coward, don't take it out on Andy.
HorrorFreak68 4 days ago
Wowww I thought AP couldn't get all crazy on shoplifters....tho I have seen it haha
ItisShe 1 month ago
@ItisShe haha they can't. Shhhh
GetsomeKAndy 1 month ago
like i mean how did u know he was for sure stealing the tv and stuff before he even began to head for the exit
scotchbear 1 month ago
how did u know he was stealing? just guessed??
scotchbear 1 month ago
lol dude where can i apply.
TheZoelzer2 1 month ago
That was fucking awesome. My favorite part is where you calmly introduce yourself and ask him to come back in the store.
Jamesonlee420 1 month ago
MoilAndToil Who knew there were so many legal experts on here? Passing point of sale is a company policy not a law. In Massachusetts it's legal to apprehend upon concealment or intent. Keyword here being intent.
By LAW (if not policy), I was within my rights to detain. And no, the case was not dismissed. The subject had a record, big surprise. He admitted to the theft. And when confronted with the video evidence, the public defender opted to plea bargain. So please blow me.
MoilAndToil 1 month ago
MoilAndToil 1 month ago 2
@MoilAndToil Who knew there were so many legal experts on here? Passing point of sale is a company policy not a law. In Massachusetts it's legal to apprehend upon concealment or intent. Keyword here being intent. By LAW (if not policy), I was within my rights to detain. And no, the case was not dismissed. The subject had a record, big surprise. He admitted to the theft. And when confronted with the video evidence, the public defender opted to plea bargain. So please blow me.
GetsomeKAndy 1 month ago
@MoilAndToil So many differances in laws between states. In my state we must have visual contact of the shoplifter at all times. We must see them take it off the shelf, coneceal it, keep eyes on them the entire time, and see them pass the point of sale.
thepoliticalstartrek 1 month ago
@MoilAndToil FUCK YOU!!!!! YOU DUMB UNEDUCATED WORTHLESS PUSSY PUNK ASS HOUND DOG
medicalterrylove2 1 month ago
the commentary was really gay.
IBangedHerTwice 1 month ago
@IBangedHerTwice thanks.
GetsomeKAndy 1 month ago
@GetsomeKAndy no worries man. dont get me wrong, the video is funny. i love seeing shop lifters get taken down. but your commentary kills it. and the chick commenting on shit was probably the most ridiculous part... is she that red head in your picture? if so, tell her its time to let that go...
IBangedHerTwice 1 month ago
@IBangedHerTwice
Yes, Really, yes a pervert of some sort.
Probably has first hand info about criminals from his brothers and uncles !
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ElQuba 1 month ago
he didn't actually get out of the store, so was it shoplifting??? i think you should have waited and fucked him up outside.
1982mitzy 1 month ago
@1982mitzy yeah, it was shoplifting. Thanks for watching !
GetsomeKAndy 1 month ago
@GetsomeKAndy By NO means am i defending him but before the tackle he was actually moving away from the doors. What makes it shoplifting if he is still in the store? because he is past the checkouts? at my local walmart there is a big dispaly of items just past the checkouts. if i touch them am i a shoplifter too??? Plsz educate me....
1982mitzy 1 month ago
@1982mitzy intent makes it shoplifting. And yes, because he is past the registers -attempting to exit. If there are tv's outside your wal-mart and you touch them, you're obviously not stealing. BUT if you grab one and throw it inside your cart without regard for price or product details and then make for the exit... and then you get apprehended and admit that you were stealing... then it's shoplifting.
GetsomeKAndy 1 month ago
@GetsomeKAndy I see your point. If i were that scum bag i would have tried to fight the charges. Saying, " i did regard the price and product info because i reasearched it online at home, witch manny ppl do" and "i was trying to find my wife because she controls the mony lol". ..... The INTENT seems much harder to prove than just letting him walk an additional 5 feet out the doors. AND BANG deffinately shoplifting.
1982mitzy 1 month ago
"no shoplifters were harmed in the making of this video"
That's why I am disappointed. :)
genenco1 1 month ago
@genenco1 I see what you did there. nice
GetsomeKAndy 1 month ago
....its never worth it....u over did it buddy...this is coming from one of the best who had also learn a valuable lesson on one stop that I used too much force...
7trainQbnyc 2 months ago
@7trainQbnyc true.
GetsomeKAndy 1 month ago
That's how I always identify myself. I figure it's cool as long as I get out "LOSS PREVENTION" before they hit the ground.
kilroy227 2 months ago
@kilroy227 haha that counts!
GetsomeKAndy 1 month ago
hey, i'll pay Kim $400.00 for a "session," she's so cute & then some. love u Kimm. muaahh ;-)
goohber1 2 months ago in playlist Uploaded videos
@goohber1 brilliant
GetsomeKAndy 1 month ago
Bad ass. Man I miss the good ole days of jumping on shoplifts. Nowadays retail frowns on these stops and a lot are now hands off completely.
AnchoragePilot 2 months ago
@AnchoragePilot totally. Merch loss v profitability. Shortsighted for sure. BUt yeah, good old days....
GetsomeKAndy 1 month ago
fatass try to steal a tv LMFAO!!!
bangsaqun145 2 months ago
A bunch of Curious George monkeys standing around gawking at another monkey! Keep moving people there is nothing to see here!
JENDALL714 2 months ago
He jst got owend cuz I didn't see any one gettin punkd
714villanueva 2 months ago
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TerryTresner 3 months ago
@TerryTresner ?
GetsomeKAndy 2 months ago
Thought it was turning into a football game lol, nice grab man!
brooklynlulu 3 months ago
@brooklynlulu 5 yard penalty!
GetsomeKAndy 2 months ago
@GetsomeKAndy LOL! hut hut, I think that's what they say, lol
brooklynlulu 2 months ago
i enjoyed this in 1080p HD
xox945 3 months ago
@xox945 haha nice! That is the preferred resolution for viewing 9 year old footage converted from vhs tapes.
GetsomeKAndy 3 months ago
He rushed him with that Jack Lambert tackle LMFAO Nice
TheRatedIX7 3 months ago
It's also a poor idea for a store to have the electronics section so close to the door because stores know electronics is a target for thieves. I suspect this store has been remodeled or demolished since.
qscott86 3 months ago
@qscott86 seriously, right? All of the "greatland" targets were set up that way. Just goes to show how little regard the stores have for AP. Don't get me wrong though, it was great for us. You just watch that door all day and chase people down.
GetsomeKAndy 3 months ago
Always nice to see people on here defending the rights of a thief. Heh. All of us pay more for everything because of shoplifters. That's not to say this situation could not have been handled differently, but the shoplifter is the one at fault.
qscott86 3 months ago
@qscott86 Yeah, people (especially on here) tend to see the shoplifter as a victim. You make a good point about prices being higher.... not to mention the fact that this guy was almost a foot taller than me, with a pocket knife. I stand by my decision to remove his opportunity to go for it.
GetsomeKAndy 3 months ago
Kick ass! Death from above!
fivefordying2 3 months ago
@fivefordying2 whooo
GetsomeKAndy 3 months ago
I was in Assets Protection. Thats good stuff. For all those people who claim liability BS. Keep in mind the guy said 2002, This Company hadnt set in too many "liability crap" like they do now. Good Stuff guy, I've had the pleasure of "politely talking" to shoplifters as well, great adrenaline rush!
truwrestler 3 months ago
@truwrestler haha its the most fun you can legally have.
GetsomeKAndy 3 months ago
That girl sounds like a slut on the video.
Sommer89014 3 months ago
Not sure when this was, but any major retailer these days would fire the employee that jumped the shoplifter.
2011blueman 3 months ago
@2011blueman 2002. And yeah, probably would have been fired if anyone saw this tape back then....
GetsomeKAndy 3 months ago
lets face it, stolen products are much cheaper, what if you needed a TV but couldn't afford one at retail price?
You would go to a crook, but the crook won't have it in stock.
Its a lose lose situation.
logicCplusplus 3 months ago
@logicCplusplus totally
GetsomeKAndy 3 months ago
look man, maybe he just forgot to pay, sometimes I forget where I put my car keys.
Memory issues could explain it, and you just knocked out a few more of his brain cells.
logicCplusplus 3 months ago
what store is that???...lol idk if u guys should be doing that...u could get fired...but if u guys could do that ...then great job lol ...but it was a lil ruff though,...my fiance cant do that ..bcuz we work at sears...and we have rules...sears suks...lol a lil...but yea my fiance went through alot ...he almost got stabbed but thank god he didnt..he only got cut...he got into fights..but it was only self defense...and he got attacked by a girl..and alot more..now hes a ass. manger as lp
kingofmyheart2010 3 months ago
@kingofmyheart2010 From a Target in Danvers, MA. Yeah Sears sucks but its not a bad place for LP as far as I've heard.
GetsomeKAndy 3 months ago
i like the part where the girl goes "that's not what u said u were gunna do" lol
wiiNINTENDO1401 3 months ago
LMAO! i actually thought the guy was gunna calmly introduce himself
wiiNINTENDO1401 3 months ago
@wiiNINTENDO1401 haha, so did he
GetsomeKAndy 3 months ago
@usagora Liability? That's for people who can afford a lawyer to sue. Also, I'm 5'6" he's 6'3" - not like he's getting injured. And believe me, I politely asked guys like this plenty of times before and its always a fight. And yes, he did have a knife in his pocket so I stand by my decision to remove his opportunity to draw it.
GetsomeKAndy 3 months ago 2
@GetsomeKAndy
I agree. The guy is going good on a TV like it is nothing. Dudes that push out almost ALWAYS fight.
lpvidz101 3 months ago
Oh the good old days! They get pissed when we do take downs like that now. Nice app!
BDubbleDizzle 3 months ago
THat's so rude, what if he really needed that tv?! who are you to deny him the basic pleasures of life huh!?!
ColdMorningStrangler 4 months ago
@ColdMorningStrangler LMAO
gazmot 4 months ago
@ColdMorningStrangler haha oh no! Didn't even think of that! now I feel bad
GetsomeKAndy 3 months ago
@GetsomeKAndy no seriously, i think you tackled him too hard, what if he has a medical condition?
ColdMorningStrangler 3 months ago
@GetsomeKAndy Right, because he steals a TV he forfeits his right to live?
GFxLiquidHandcuffsX 1 month ago
lol i ask them to come in like tht too lol
AND112791 4 months ago
"its like a time capslule" haha
LumpPlump 4 months ago
@MonsterSlayer1965 The district attorney never even saw the case. This guys public defender saw the evidence and pled him out fast. It was a probation violation on top of the larceny theft so he did time. Short time -but still time. And yes, he did pass all points of sale so all elements were observed. You have to remember that company policy can be interpreted different ways but its the law that matters.
GetsomeKAndy 4 months ago
why the hell would he walk by the cashier
MsLucasracing1995 4 months ago
@MsLucasracing1995 cause he's a thief :P
GetsomeKAndy 4 months ago
@GetsomeKAndy lol true
MsLucasracing1995 4 months ago
REALLY A FUCKING TACO!!!? FUCKING STUPID ASS SECURITY HOW YOU SURE HE IS STILLING THAT???? HE IS NOT EVEN OUTSIDE!!! AND HE DIDNT PASS THE DOOR I WILL FUCKING SUE YOUR DUMASS..
561Juancho 4 months ago
it was clear he was going to take it. Its debatable if he passed all points of sale. Regardless, that stop would hold in court I would think.
Dac321eq 4 months ago
FAIL. target asset protection policy and most municipal laws state that the person must be outside of the store, before u can apprehend him/her. and does target know u are posting their videos on you tube (probably not)
kansas66204 4 months ago
@kansas66204 NERD ALERT!
GetsomeKAndy 4 months ago
@GetsomeKAndy Good video of your apprehension. I use to be a APS too a couple of years ago. I have several video's of my apprehensions that got out of control. I will upload them if you would like to see them.
kmiller5888 3 months ago
@kansas66204 Depends on the state.
dragon1234178 4 months ago
@kansas66204 That is not entirely true. Depending on the state you are located in, once they pass the registers hence ALL POINTS OF SALE, they may be subject to arrest. They Target store I worked in (NYC), once you passed the registers, you were only a few feet from exiting. There weren't any vestibules at that location.
TQScorp 4 months ago
@kansas66204 Actually that isn't Target's policy at all and also, most municipal laws state all the person has to do is show intent. This means they don't even need to be at the front of the store or even close to outside. You should really check your facts before you post. FAIL
Kory4000 4 months ago
@Kory4000 have u worked for target security? most likely not -and targets own policy states that a suspect is not to be apprehended in no way fashion or form while in the store, the asset protection team is simply to call law enforcement, the video is the proof- the crime has occured, no need to risk injury 2 anyone (including the shoplifter) next time before u make comment, know what you talking about ok? since i have worked there in the past, i know what the policy is. NUFF SAID !
kansas66204 4 months ago
@kansas66204 Actually what he said towards the middle is the correct answer. It's after the last point-of-sale that you are allowed to detain them (not apprehend, that is a synonymous word for arrest and AP cannot legally do that). You are right though, he is not allowed to be posting this video since it is propietery property of Target. And why is he calling himself a "detective"? They were called Assests Protection Specialists and Target Protection Specialists. I used to be a TPS myself.
TheElectriPickle 4 months ago
@TheElectriPickle you can be a detective an on the floor too !
TheJedifr33style 3 months ago
@kansas66204 First your wrong about everything! All targets have their own rules and it verys by state!
TheJedifr33style 3 months ago
lol target ap is a crazy...lol i had some good times there..lol
KristinaRU 4 months ago
@KristinaRU totally. Which one did you work at?
GetsomeKAndy 4 months ago
@GetsomeKAndy 1872 durham nc
KristinaRU 4 months ago
great job andypants.... i loove doing that shit]
mirandomness25 5 months ago
@mirandomness25 Thanks! How'd you know my nickname?
GetsomeKAndy 5 months ago
fucking lol he didnt even attempt to make it look like he was buying something...
natedoggcata 5 months ago
This was pretty amazing. Im just a team member at Target but a lot has changed since this vid. Someone could walk right out of the store with stolen merchandise and we're only allowed to say "Can I help you find something?". Even AP cannot do much. Nothing would make me happier than to lay these people flat like this. Classy
0Bryc30 6 months ago
@0Bryc30 yeah seriously. Thats pretty much how it was when I was there too. It's a shoplifter's world.
GetsomeKAndy 6 months ago
Awesome I was also once like you. Great Job and I love the VHS quality. So I guess you didn't have Loronix right?
mojeda1981 6 months ago
@mojeda1981 haha thanks. yeah, this was right before we got Loronix in that store. -The good old days.... where you could delete tapes.
GetsomeKAndy 6 months ago