Talk about hipocrites who force religion! You're right! We should FORCE what 1% of America believes in public schools and disregard what 95% of Americans believe! Quit trying to CHANGE our country! If you hate America so much then move! You guys took God out of the schools and it is very evident that He LEFT. We NEVER had to worry about kids being shot in schools when prayer and God were allowed in.Keep pushing Him OUT of this country and watch what happens! Our nation hasn't seen ANYTHING yet!
Yay!!! You guys are all SOOOO smart! Creationism was taught in nearly all the schools in the United States, from the position that the literal interpretation of the Bible was inerrant because THE MAJORITY of our founding fathers and society did NOT believe in a God or the bible. It makes so much sense!!! How could you be such idiotic,moronic, ignoramuses?
@ShojoBakunyu As much as you and the other 2% of Americans would love to believe America was NOT founded on athiesm and there's no proof that even comes close. Not ONE of our founding fathers was a professing athiest. Benajmin Franklin & "Mind Your Business" doesn't proove anything. BF stated that he believed in one God, the creator of the universe and thought he ought to be worshipped. 9 March 1790, in John Bigelow, ed., The Works of Benjamin Franklin, at 12:185-86 (New York: Putnam’s, 1904)
"I contend that we are both atheists, I just believe in one less God than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other Gods, you'll understand why I dismiss yours."
The US broke away from GB because the Crown wanted taxes from everyone, regardless of religion to pay for churches. A town could not be built unless there was a standing Christian church. The people basically said "Fuck you, crown, we'll build a town regardless of churches and religions." Keeping freedom of religion and politics separate was a main concern, but never really worked out. People vote for whoever shares their faith, & any politicians claiming to be Atheist is instant death.
I'm an Atheist, and I detest, despise and abhor religion with a passion. It permeates through the fabric of society like a fucking cancer, affecting everyone and everything. It's an arrogant cloud of silent but deadly wafting in the air and poisoning minds. Like a virus that mutates and changes for optimal indoctrination of each new generation. Atheism is the only cure.
There are at least 3 references to God/Christianity in the Declaration of Independence. They were not penned by Jefferson verbatim and were written in by the new congress at the time but this country was not founded by Jefferson only but, also many who wanted Christian values as a foundation. Unfortunately, Christian values have been rarely practised since then.
A British leader will be elected regardless of his/her belief in God. Infact they have to keep their personal belief to themselves. The opposite is the case in America which is drugged on religion, and any potential leader has to bullshit they do believe, and declare so openly. Obama is probably lying, Clinton certainly was.
And to think that all this religious poisoning happened for two reasons: politics in fighting the godless commies, and in business, through policy that allowed religion to become yet another big business in the USA.
democracy is when majority decides hypocrisy is when you as minority call your self important as much as majority and promoting democracy at the same time ...
@GoxiMcCormick Democracy is the rule of the people through exercising their right to vote in order to make decisions. There are constitutional provisions to protect the minority from the majority when and If these decisions affect people negatively, whether it be minorities or majorities. Freedom of religion does not only encompass your freedom to worship any given deity, it also protects your right to choose whether or not to worship and that freedom has been largely ignored
@GoxiMcCormick You are not in fact a hypocrite by choosing to exercise your constitutionally given right to be free to profess any religion or no religion at all. You are a hypocrite when you decide to preach a creed of peace and love then turn around and practice hatred for those who do not agree with your ideology.
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Talk about hipocrites! :O You're right! We should FORCE what 1% of America believes in public schools and disregard what the 95% of Americans believe! Laughable! God WAS placed all over our nation and it's monuments, not just on the coin! Lol. Quit trying to change our country! If you hate America so much move to Canada you nuts! Our country has been deteriorating and crime rates have going up since the 1960s when they started taking God out! Keep it up (know it alls) and see what happens!
Actually violent crime is a lot lower today. Now, I doubt that atheism is responsible for that drop... but it does show that you are wrong about crime rates going up.
As to "God" being placed all over our nation and its monuments, that doesn't mean it's right. I have no problem you putting up crosses and references to god on your private property. Just don't use my tax dollars to promote your religion over everyone else's.
Belief (no matter how seemingly well substantiated that belief may be) about whether crime rates have gone up, declined , or stayed the same surely is nothing other than belief about that.
@imrational OMG!!! YOU'RE RIGHT!!! I remember all of the horrible stories my parents and grandparents told me about all of the school shootings taking place when they were kids and how their parents were afraid to let them walk to the store by themselves and afraid to leave their doors unlocked at night... thank GOD we don't have to worry about that stuff AS MUCH anymore!!! :O
Any claim about what percentage of individuals ALLEGEDLY have the belief of there being any 'God' may be a FALSE claim.
So, while you may believe 95% of U.S. citizens to believe there to be a 'God' , that does not mean you have knowledge of what ACTUAL percentage of U.S citizens really do hold that belief.
You commented that, "You really should educate yourself a little more on the subject..."
If a person does not have knowledge of a subject, and if that person does research - in attempt to gain knowledge of that subject - then how would that person (if he or she would do so) know whether any of what he or she encounters - while doing that research - is information, is misinformation, or is disinformation about that subject?
@MENCADO How would they know? Depends what effort was put in to it, and what exactly this "research" entailed.
Its not like the bible, where you go with how you feel about what a single source says. Thats the whole problem.
If you really want to educate yourself on the subject, you must look at THOUSANDS of other sources, verify their validity on the subject, and actually spend a great deal of time reading all of it.
Now, since there is a lot of material on the subject-you cant stop there, you can't stop with just reading.
If you really want to know, go to a museum. Find the experts... and then CHECK on their research/conclusions/etc. Actually read their findings and what processes they used to reach those conclusions/findings.
If any one source could contain an amount of misinformation and/or disinformation, then what is it - if any actual thing - that prevents multiple (even thousands of) sources from all containing misinformation and/or disinformation - or even from all containing the SAME misinformation and/or disinformation as each other? Does the mere fact of those sources being more than only one source somehow magically prevent that from occurring?
It seems to me to be entirely possibly that multiple individuals might all believe and/or might all assert (or publish) the same false claim(s). So, the number of people who say that a claim is true is not really proof of whether that claim is true, is it?
You - for example - might BELIEVE a claim to be true just because some number of sources all say that the claim is true, but that is different from you KNOWING whether the claim is true or not.The question of mine that you replied to was regarding the subject of knowledge, not that of believing what any number of sources (any sources) claim.
@MENCADO *sigh* oh for fucks sake. Would you Creationists please understand what evidence is all about??
Its NOT that I might or might not "believe" or accept a claim, kiddo, its that I can see and REPLICATE the entire string of procedures and experiments to reach that same conclusion.
Yes, it IS about knowledge, idiot. And no, it is NOT about "believing" what a group "believes". You completely missed the point.
MENCADO, have you ever looked at a peer reviewed scientific journal about something or another? Have you looked at the technical papers explaining every single step of an experiment that leads up to a result?
I seriously doubt it.
Have you been to a science class? Have you done any work in the chemistry or biology classes? Guess what, numb nuts, saaaaaame thing. Reality works a certain way, and we can replicate it.
In other words: How is any unknowing person able (if any unknowing person can do so) to distinguish the difference between his or her being educated about a subject - and his or her instead being mis-educated about that subject?
@reisdorph You are a moron. "God" was placed all over our nation in the 1950's as a response to the knee-jerk fear of Communism. Most of our founding fathers were not Christian. They were atheists and deists. Benjamin Franklin wanted the motto on the money to be "Mind Your Business". Your ignorance on the history of our country is truly astounding.
Hey buddy , you might wanna get your research right because the founding fathers all actualy believed in god ( higher power ) but they werent " Christians " and FYI the preamble and the declaration of independence and the freakin pledge were all originally wrote using the word " lord " not God but "our lord" aka God
If you listen to the video a little closer, you'll see that I do not say the founding fathers were atheists. I merely said that many weren't Christian.
As to the Declaration of Independence and it's Preamble... that document was when we were under control of the British government and while it is an important document, it is outside of our Constitution. If you notice, the Constitution makes no reference to Christianity other than ensuring we have freedom of religion.
JESUS CHRIST, HIS CATHOLIC-UNIVERSAL-APOSTOLIC CHURCH, SACRAMENTS, THE BIBLE, MIRACLES, HEALINGS, ST. MARY APPARITIONS, MESSAGES FROM HEAVEN, SIGNS IN 2011 ARE NOT A MYTHOLOGY BUT THE REALITY !!!
can i ask you...do you not believe in "God" because of how these "christians" have polutated "religion" to fit their fancy (which i don't agree w/ them i feel they are atheist to be honest & I feel God is NOT w/ them at ALL because they do EVERYTHING he say not to do smh) or you just don't why...? (if you don't mind me asking)
so "true atheism" is the ultimate luxery a human can reach in the short span of his life time.
it is a luxery that has to be fighted for with various meditation techniques and ascetims (abstinence from worldly pleasures) and so on.
somebody cultivating a bigger and bigger belly while sitting and playing a violent playstation game and throwing tons of toxic matter in him self is definitly one of the last persons to claim "atheism"
@sofianbelhedi All you did in your comments is define words as you wanted to. You are only trying to make reality conform to your beliefs. derp derp
I don't believe in any god(s), I am an atheist.
"a god is anything than turns into the center of life of a perosn". That is stupid. The center of my life is my family and friends. I do not think that my family and friends are gods.
Sure, There are things I like doing. I very much enjoy playing video games. Games aren't god. derp derp
don't forget to provide and provide to your family as well as to your friends. till you reach exauhstion.
to provide for them means you don't want to see your partens one day in the retirement home,you want to put them in your own house and care for them with your wife till their last breath.
to provide for your friends means every now and than you find solutions to their existance problems,for instance by finding partners for them that they can mary,or giving them shelter for one or two years till they find a suitable job.
when one of those (family or friend you mentioned ) are sick than you sit near them and entertain them,see if they get their medecines in the right time and buy it for them if they can't buy it them selves.
if the son or daughter of your brother or sister becomes orphan than you pit that kid into your home and care for him till he becomes strong and can care for him self.
if that is what you mean by they are the center of your life than yes ,they are no god/gods for you.
than yes you have a healthy relationship with them.not a god-slave relationship.
than you are in full controll of your selfe when it is about family and friends.
if i tell you directly than you may think i'm crazy.
well the straight answer is the following :
we know since about 100 years that existence is space-time.
matter and energy are two faces of the same coin,matter can become energy and energy can become matter and both of them are aspects of space-time.
but in the known universe we have clear evidence that energy is turning into matter not matter into energy,matter can turn into energy in artificial laboratories (A-bomb).
we only have a small specification that differs us from the rest of the universe wich is :
our body is matter and energy at the same time,further for some reason our body tries to balance the amount of matter and energy it is made of,and it is that what we call life.
when we die our body turns into pure matter wich can be ofcorse converted into energy in lab circumstances
the energy that is part of our body is responsable for our seeing,hearing,mooving,thinking ,it doesn't only exist within the body but also around it (see the video in my uploads scientist filmed soul...).
the energy wich is into us and around us has some kind of "finger print".
each human has his own energy field wich reflects his being,just like our material body may reflect things about us.
when our "material body" changes,than our "energy body" (aura,spiritual body..) also changes and vice versa.
just like the "material body" the "energy body" can get ill,overweight,dirty,smelly and can also suffer degradation.
we all can identify a person on a councious level from his material body but on a unconcious level we have all the ability to identify and "feel" a person from his "energy body" (aura).
masters have achieved through trial and error a high mastery of energy and matter.
their relationship with matter and energy is perfect.
health,morality,peace in life are just by-products of their search for ways to master matter and energy.
their ultimate goal is enlightenment.
for one reason or another masters have discovered that to make introspection (exploration of the aura and body through meditation) quicker higher entities have to be worshiped.
they needed non-relative frame of references,those higher enteties wether they existed or not was not relevant for them,they were considered subjects of meditation to gain knowledge about them selves and their surroundings.
enlightenment was the end stage.
that is why a "god" is needed.
after enlightenment is achieved the masters don't care anymore if the "god" was existent or not,
they are already living the life that should be lived if here were a "god".
@sofianbelhedi All you've done is ramble off a bunch of incoherent garbage. Let me know when you can back it up. Until you can, don't bother responding to this.
What you said is just weird.
You're not some kind of "spiritual guru" because you can say random, weird shit.
never ever again let people mislead you and tell you they are atheists,there is no such thing as atheism.
and there is no such thing as religon.
there are no christians,no jews no muslims,no buhdists,atheists,agnostics,gnostics etc...there are only people with diffrent levels of knowledge and wisdom.
knowledge is gained by the sciences of the outern world (physics,math etc..)
wisdom is gained by the sciences of the inner world (meditation,travel,ascetims etc...).
You commented to sofianbelhedi, "Make sense or shut your fucking mouth..."
Anyone - or even more than one person - (even you) might mistakenly judge as seeming to make sense to him or her - or them - that which does not actually make any sense, or the converse of that might instead occur. So, the most that anyone could say (without resorting to expressing dogmatic belief in regard to the matter) is that something seems to him or her to make sense, or to not do so.
@MENCADO Your comment is exactly the type of thing I don't like to hear/see. You could have been much more clear about what you said if you didn't jumble words together like you did.
You said: "Anyone - or even more than one person".
"Anyone" means more than one person. There was no need to qualify the word "anyone" with it's own definition. Then you went on to say "even you" which is obviously included in the definition of the origional word, "anyone". Why? Why do you do that?
So what if you don't like to see/hear any particular sort of comment? I certainly do not see that as being reason for that sort of comment to not be made.I don't particularly like the hostile tone in your previous comment, but - again - so what?
By "Anyone - or even more than one person..." I meant any ONE PERSON or even more than one person. So no, the word 'anyone' was not meant to represent more than one person in that case, and I was not qualifying the word anyone with its own definition.
@MENCADO If you don't like what I say you should either ignore it, or try to explain why it's wrong. I get what you're saying. If I read a coment that I think is unclear, I should understand that it is myself, and not necessarily everyone else who doesn't understand it. The problem is that the words used don't have a coherent meaning in the language they were typed in based on the definitions of the words.
If you can define words to mean anything you want, the conversation is useless.
You commented, "If you don't like what I say you should either ...".
While it may be your opinion that I should do either of those things, that does not mean it is a fact that I should do so. But, since you phrased it as if you know it to be a fact that I should do one or the other of those things, unless you present to me proof of that being the case, then you will not have provided me with any cause to consider it as being true.
a.) you had masqueraded what you knew to be a statement of opinion as being a statement of fact - or
b.) what you claim to have meant as an opinion you only subsequently realized (but did not honestly admit) to be a statement of opinion - or
c.) you were (and may still be) confused (though not admittedly so) as to whether what you had claimed to have meant as an opinion IS an opinion - or is NOT an opinion, instead.
You claimed that, "The problem is that the words used don't have a coherent meaning in the language they were typed in based on the definitions of the words."
Again, that comment of yours is made according to what seems to you to be the case - which does not mean that it necessarily also IS the case. It is possible that you could believe yourself to correctly understand any particular word's definition while not actually doing so.
I mentioned that even you could do so for the sake of emphasizing the point that you are not exempt from being among those to whom that might occur, because you had (inadvertantly) claimed that sofiahedi's comments did not make sense - not just that they SEEMED to you to not do so.
You said: "By "Anyone - or even more than one person..." I meant any ONE PERSON or even more than one person." "Anyone" means ANY POSSIBLE PERSON. What do you not understand about the definition of the word "anyone"? Using the word "anyone" in ANY CONTEXT covers ALL POSSIBLE HUMAN BEINGS ON THE PLANET.
This is the problem I had with the other guy. Don't make words mean what you want them to. If everyone (ALL PEOPLE) define words individually, noby can make a point.
I agree that 'anyone' does mean any possible PERSON (singular).'Even MORE THAN one person', however, refers to multiple people. So, where I stated "Anyone..." (meaning any ONE person only) "... - or even MORE THAN one person..." I was making the distinction that it could occur either to only a single person or that it could instead occur to multiple people.
'Everyone' includes all human beings (simultaneously) - ie. him AND her, and etc.. 'Anyone' refers to only any single person (at a time) - ie. - either him OR her, or etc..
It is one thing for you to claim that someone's comments ARE unclear (or ARE nonsensical) and it is another for you to instead state that those comments SEEM unclear (or seem nonsensical) TO YOU. After all, just because something may SEEM unclear or nonsensical to you that does not mean it necessarily IS so.
And, if you truly embraced that possibility of your impression not being in keeping with reality, then you might be less inclined toward communicating with such hostility as you have apparently expressed towards sofiahedi, for example.
one lives like an animal than goes into the dark night (i assume that you are in it),than awekens (kundalini shakti dormant energy awakes in the body),than you make an evolution in 3 or 4 steps,till at end you reach the level of master,you become enlightened .
when enlightened you live always in the here and now
when one is not enlightened than there are two ways of becoming it.
first is try it alone,second is to get the help of a master.
when one becomes master than he may be only one of two diffrent kinds of master,the master that can lead others to enlightenment and the master who can't do it.
@sofianbelhedi Okay. Deutsch funktioniert. Verstehst du besser Deutsch als Englisch? Ich spreche Deutsch. Zentz ist mein richtiger Name. Es ist Deutsch.
@sofianbelhedi I live in America. I was born and raised here. I learned to speak german because most of my family is german. I didn't tell you because I didn't know you could speak german.
You said english is not your native language so I thought maybe if you use a language you know better than english, you could be more clear about what you mean by all the spiritual mumbo jumbo you've been talking about.
I don't think it will help, but I thought I'd give it a try.
however if you are near family and friends to have advantage,status,money,care or whatsover than they are your god.
this doesn't mean that parents are the gods of their children ,that is a normal relationship.
frankly, how many people who are older than 20 are working,having money and as soon as their center of life (family and friends) have trouble (jail,illness,become old,addiction)
distance them selves from them and pretend they are much better than them ?!
there are only monotheists (allah worshipers) and polytheists (those who doesn't worship allah and for that reasons are automaticly worshipping entities other than allah).
so called atheists are nothing but polytheists.
their gods range from alcohol to clint eastwood to harley davidson to pikinies to christmas trees to dogs to anything.
what people like today to call "atheism" is uncouncious plytheism.
so called atheists are worshiping things without knowing they do.
they may worship a rock band or a girl friend.
however religion is about knowingly and counciously to focus on one single thing to couciously shape one's own behaviour,it may be jesus,shiva or allah.
@sofianbelhedi what a crackpot.... exactly what superpower do "True Atheists" have to focus on for decades to become a "True Atheist"? You seem to have all the answers except how to spell or even use spell check in the YouTube text software.
freedom from suffering can be reached by practicing spiritual techniques".
wach the video in my uploads "how to meditate reloaded",it give you the simplest technique that people used again and again to achieve enlightenment (true atheism)
@Outbackcafe the bible is a series of stories that were rewritten countless times. Originally your religion was a pagan one the bible is not truth but a series of edited lies that try to represent themselves like truth and don't lie you have always been Christian I have never sinned either because sin does not exist get it trough your brain.
Atheist ar ehappeir in general. They do no thave religion to drag them down as the religiously infected do. I always at work tell christinas or muslims to read their bibles. It makes my job of setting them straight eaiser.
@outbackcafe bare in mind that the vast majority of prisoners themselfs are were not atheists when they werr sent there. they were either non-practitoning belivers or agnostic. as people become more intelligent, instead of blindly pursing vage idea they go for something more vast to reach a life long conclusion, rather then being told the conclusion from the get go.
You live in the best country on earth, that country happens to be predominantly religious (atheists are in the vast minority). Get rid of Christianity and watch America go down the drain. Get a life you loser!
@xphreakyphilx "Why does the rate of atheism increase with intellegence" Have you not heard of Francis Collins or John Lennox? Why are the majority of scientists, presidents, doctors etc people of faith?
" and why are there almost no atheists in prison?"
Because atheists are in the vast minority! You guys are a dieing breed, also many people in prison turn to God thus making up this somewhat misleading statistic. Anyway Atheists are the least trusted group in our society
@outbackcafe Where do you get that "majority of scientists" are people of faith. I think you will find just the opposite. The reason presidents are people of faith are because there is no way they would get in office if they weren't. It's sad really. According to most studies, the more education and intelligent a person the less likely they are to be religious.
@outbackcafe As for prisoners, you would think that atheists would be represented at a percentage consistent with the percentage in the population in general or even more so if you are one of those people that say that atheists have no morals. I've seen the number of atheists being anywhere from 10% - 20% in the US. In the prison population they make up less than .5%. Get rid of religion and crime may go down in the US. And atheism is on the increase not decline.
I agree with most of your points. Except for the more symbolic things. Actually, USA was found BECAUSE of Christianity, not necessarily ON it. PS I've never seen Christianity being taught by school teachers in my state (Massachusetts) other than in the Christian Private Shcool I used to go to.
@Awesomeoneofawesome Well duh, you're in Massachusetts. New England is one of the least religious regions of the country. It's a huge problem in places like Texas and Alabama.
The Christian God is one of Hate, not Love. He says he hates sin all the time, but the Christians believe his love is greater than that of a Mother. Then why does he send people to hell instead of Forgiving them? As thought accepting Christ is the only answer? The Christian God is Evil.
@Awesomeoneofawesome No if god set the rules he sends them to hell. How is anything I do keep him from saving me? How do I allow him to save me? Some action can keep him from doing something? He can do anything he wants supposedly. Why is it that some one can be good all their life but just not believe in god and be damned to hell for eternity. On the flip side, someone can do bad throughout their life but repent and be saved. This god has issues.
~The hymns that are born of religious beliefs are really beautiful, and even if I don't believe in what their message is, I really enjoy listening to them.
~The churches and cathedrals raised by those of religious beliefs are undeniably beautiful, and I love admiring the painstakingly detailed artwork.
~Religioin does seem to encourage good behavior, most of the time.
~Becuase my best friend hates me now, because I'm an atheist.
I disagree slightly with "religion does seem to encourage good behavior, most of the time", seeing how many problems they have caused (and still cause)... but appreciated the rest.
@imrational You are correct about this. Religion is the biggest promoter of Hatred. Religion is the reason Gays/Lesbians are discriminated against and sometimes get kicked out of their homes, jobs, and who knows what else. Religion promotes hate towards these groups, because they are different and are said to be evil or corrupted. It's no different towards Atheist. Religion should be banned all together. Or should not be taught and one should find their own.
@ThisFlat The biggest promoter of hatred has always been those who wanted to control others. Sometimes they have used religion. They have also used atheism (which contrary to the mantra here, is not historically neutral). The church I go to supports gay marriage. God is a God of forgiveness, mercy, justice, love, and grace. That is clearly taught by Jesus of Nazareth.
@landsdown44 I disagree with you on that. If your Church allows Gay marriages, which I think is a great idea, then you're Church is not a True Christian Church. Clearly, your "Holy Scripture" condemns Gay/Lesbian marriage, or anyone having same sex experiences. Those people are to be stoned to death. Clearly God is not a merciful God. That is clear discrimination against Gay/Lesbians. If your church allows it, that's great, there is hope for this world after all. Set aside our differences
@ThisFlat Clearly, Holy Scripture does NOT condemn homosexuality. There are 5 Biblical texts used to hammer gays. They are Genesis 19, Leviticus 18:22, I Corinthians 6:9, I Timothy 1:10, and Romans 1: 26-27. That's it. I have studied those texts in their origional languages (Hebrew and Greek) and in their origioinal context. None of them can legitimately be used to oppose homosexualty. Fundamentalism has distorted those texts to support their bigotry.
@landsdown44 You are correct on that. I went and did a little research myself and found out the same thing. But the above comment I posted, is the common mentality of the average Christian. Religion is a way to control people through any means necessary and if one group doesn't agree, wipe them out. That is why I despise Religion and have for some time now. It's clearly a tool that promotes hate and not love. Love is only promoted to people that think alike.
@landsdown44 Did you know that the countries that have little to no religious belief system to rule them, are actually the most peaceful and have very little crime? Look at Norway, Denmark, and Iceland. All predominantly Atheist. I'm not trying to take sides here, but from what I've seen with my own eyes, Religion does seem to promote violence and hatred. Not all Religions though, but most.
@ThisFlat I agree that religion has caused violence and intorlerance. However, The countries you name all have a Christian heritage, their legal systems are based on Christian fundamentals. That is true for virtually all of Europe. The countries with the most intolerant and violent records are those in which religion was forbidden. That would be U.S.S.R., China, Cambodia, N. Korea, to name just four.
@landsdown44 You're talking about places where there were dictators and these dictators were radical changes to the country following an ideology. Do you even know the history of it? Religions were eradicate because the dictators wanted to establish a cult of personality viewing themselves to the people like "gods" pretty much like medieval Europe and all around the world before 1800. It had nothing to do with atheism.
@Blasthood Really nice try, attempting to distance yourself from the atheist idiology that typified the states where religion was forbidden. If you knew the history of it, and clearly you do not, you would know that it was not just a couple of dictators, but an entire system which rejected religion, and in the process became genocidal beyond imagination.
@landsdown44 Look i studied these and it was not under the banner of "atheism" that they did this. Research the policies of Stalin, Mao and Hitler. They wanted to build a an imagery of omnipotence around them to be in fact revered as "gods" and feared just as much. But why was it forbidden? Surely not because of atheism but because of that exact policy. Now contrast it with Franco who instead encouraged christianity to establish. Unlike the others his cult was far less noticeable.
@Blasthood Look, I studied these and it WAS under the banner of atheism that they committed genocide. Here's just one example: William H. Chamberlin, a Moscow Correspondent in Moscow for 12 yrs. wrote, "In Russia the world is witnessing the first effort to destroy completley any belief in superenatural interpretation of life." The atheist governments of USSR, China, Cambodia, N. Korea ALL committed genocide, particularly agaist people of faith.
@landsdown44 Look, Chamberlin was an outsider and saw the things differently and did not know the plans of the government at the time. I could go to Japan and make a similar statement not knowing the true objective of their government. What those dictators wanted was control, a genocide is nothing more than a means to induce fear on people, and not only it also rendered as a useful way to gather slaves to work in the gulags. It was all about free labour force and control.
@Blasthood Chamberlin was not a visitor to Russia. He was a correspondent there for 12 years. What he saw and reported on are considered an accurate observation. Sorry, your attempt to discredit Chamberlin is just not working because you have nothing to back it up except the fact that you don't like it. The ruthless form of atheism practiced in each of those countries named is simply not coincidental.
@landsdown44 Are you kidding? There was a report done by a priest and said that everything was being done for the common good of the people and that it represented a very positive way of achieving an utopia. The argument is the same so you're just a fake. And yet you cannot defend yourself against an accusation regarding the many wars triggered by religion, because those were openly supported by the religious class.
@Blasthood Sorry, but you don't get to make points by making up stuff. - a priest liked what he saw in Russia? What was going on was the systematic execution of most clergy and people of faith.I would never defend a war triggered by religion. There have always been despots who used religion for their power and greed. And most wars regarded as religious (the long standing war in Northern Ireland for example) had acutally nothing to do with religion. Any good student of history knows this.
@landsdown44 Very well but then, how do you find the manpower for such a war if the religion is not use as a pretext? Religion is an effective way to get manpower, and the many who join are indeed religious and believe in what their fighting. I know that it's about a feud over the land that was once Ireland, but the pretext is the same, it is fought by people who believe. If religion was taken away, the turmoil would be minor. Anyway i'll get you the file worry not so i can prove you.
@Blasthood The pretext in the war in Northern Ireland was fueled mostly by nationalism, not religion. If religion was taken out of the equation the result would have been the same. For example. in 16th Cent. Europe, the Mennonites refused to have their infants baptised and were slaughtered for it. Slaughtered for differences in baptism? NO! Infant baptism was seen as acceptance of citizenship in the state. To refuse such baptism was seen as treason, hardly a religious issue. Again nationalism.
@Blasthood "And yet you cannot defend yourself against an accusation regarding the many wars triggered by religion, because those were openly supported by the religious class." What crap, no wonder landsdown44 is destroying your arguments. Atheists are the biggest mass murderers of all time, and continue with great acceleration to this day. Well not all there are some atheists who oppose murder Christopher Hitchens for example, he is against the murder of the innocent unborn baby.
@serratedteeth What claims in particular, I have made many? If abortion then that is a no brain er, Christians don't build abortion clinics they vigorously oppose them. As already mentioned there are some exceptions, Christopher Hitchens is one example. he believes the scientific fact that a living human being is formed when the sperm meets the egg. these innocent babies that get murdered each second are not given a chance to live, some could become great scientists etc
@outbackcafe My apologies. I was referring to your claim that "Atheists are the biggest mass murderers of all time, and continue with great acceleration to this day."
@outbackcafe Wow, I read through all the back and forth with you. There is so much fail in just about everything you said, I wouldn't even know where to begin. I give credit to those that did try imparting some sense to you. I think it was a useless effort though. There is no way you are ever going to look at anything objectively.
@outbackcafe So much misinformation, so little space to respond. So, I'll address abortion statistics. In the U.S., nearly 70% are obtained by christians.
"Women identifying themselves as Protestants obtain 37.4% of all abortions in the U.S.; Catholic women account for 31.3%, Jewish women account for 1.3%, and women with no religious affiliation obtain 23.7% of all abortions. 18% of all abortions are performed on women who identify themselves as 'Born-again/Evangelical'." - abortionno org
@YY4Me133 I would like to know how these statistics were obtained? I did use the word christian loosely, real Christians do not build abortion clinics, (As stated before) they vigorously oppose them! Any woman (thou shall not kill) who calls herself a Christian and has a abortion is a liar. The fact is atheists are in the vast minority so even if true 18% for born again women is a very small percentage since they outnumber women with "no religious affiliation obtain 23.7% of all abortions"
Talk about hipocrites who force religion! You're right! We should FORCE what 1% of America believes in public schools and disregard what 95% of Americans believe! Quit trying to CHANGE our country! If you hate America so much then move! You guys took God out of the schools and it is very evident that He LEFT. We NEVER had to worry about kids being shot in schools when prayer and God were allowed in.Keep pushing Him OUT of this country and watch what happens! Our nation hasn't seen ANYTHING yet!
reisdorph 22 hours ago
Yay!!! You guys are all SOOOO smart! Creationism was taught in nearly all the schools in the United States, from the position that the literal interpretation of the Bible was inerrant because THE MAJORITY of our founding fathers and society did NOT believe in a God or the bible. It makes so much sense!!! How could you be such idiotic,moronic, ignoramuses?
reisdorph 23 hours ago
@ShojoBakunyu As much as you and the other 2% of Americans would love to believe America was NOT founded on athiesm and there's no proof that even comes close. Not ONE of our founding fathers was a professing athiest. Benajmin Franklin & "Mind Your Business" doesn't proove anything. BF stated that he believed in one God, the creator of the universe and thought he ought to be worshipped. 9 March 1790, in John Bigelow, ed., The Works of Benjamin Franklin, at 12:185-86 (New York: Putnam’s, 1904)
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"I contend that we are both atheists, I just believe in one less God than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other Gods, you'll understand why I dismiss yours."
-Stephen F Roberts
theholywand11 1 week ago
The US broke away from GB because the Crown wanted taxes from everyone, regardless of religion to pay for churches. A town could not be built unless there was a standing Christian church. The people basically said "Fuck you, crown, we'll build a town regardless of churches and religions." Keeping freedom of religion and politics separate was a main concern, but never really worked out. People vote for whoever shares their faith, & any politicians claiming to be Atheist is instant death.
TheCrimsonification 1 week ago
I'm an Atheist, and I detest, despise and abhor religion with a passion. It permeates through the fabric of society like a fucking cancer, affecting everyone and everything. It's an arrogant cloud of silent but deadly wafting in the air and poisoning minds. Like a virus that mutates and changes for optimal indoctrination of each new generation. Atheism is the only cure.
TheCrimsonification 1 week ago
I am viewer 663333 how cool am I now?
DTaco98 1 week ago
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eternalcrumpet 2 weeks ago 2
The Atheists care about religion, because they like to be reminded of their stupidity in Youtube debates
valgez1 2 weeks ago
There are at least 3 references to God/Christianity in the Declaration of Independence. They were not penned by Jefferson verbatim and were written in by the new congress at the time but this country was not founded by Jefferson only but, also many who wanted Christian values as a foundation. Unfortunately, Christian values have been rarely practised since then.
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A British leader will be elected regardless of his/her belief in God. Infact they have to keep their personal belief to themselves. The opposite is the case in America which is drugged on religion, and any potential leader has to bullshit they do believe, and declare so openly. Obama is probably lying, Clinton certainly was.
Ali74 2 weeks ago
Fuck I hate religion
ukelayzgeeh 2 weeks ago 6
And to think that all this religious poisoning happened for two reasons: politics in fighting the godless commies, and in business, through policy that allowed religion to become yet another big business in the USA.
ChipArgyle 3 weeks ago
democracy is when majority decides hypocrisy is when you as minority call your self important as much as majority and promoting democracy at the same time ...
GoxiMcCormick 3 weeks ago
@GoxiMcCormick Democracy is the rule of the people through exercising their right to vote in order to make decisions. There are constitutional provisions to protect the minority from the majority when and If these decisions affect people negatively, whether it be minorities or majorities. Freedom of religion does not only encompass your freedom to worship any given deity, it also protects your right to choose whether or not to worship and that freedom has been largely ignored
drjekill2986 3 weeks ago
@GoxiMcCormick You are not in fact a hypocrite by choosing to exercise your constitutionally given right to be free to profess any religion or no religion at all. You are a hypocrite when you decide to preach a creed of peace and love then turn around and practice hatred for those who do not agree with your ideology.
drjekill2986 3 weeks ago
@SkinnyBurden :)
reisdorph 3 weeks ago
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Talk about hipocrites! :O You're right! We should FORCE what 1% of America believes in public schools and disregard what the 95% of Americans believe! Laughable! God WAS placed all over our nation and it's monuments, not just on the coin! Lol. Quit trying to change our country! If you hate America so much move to Canada you nuts! Our country has been deteriorating and crime rates have going up since the 1960s when they started taking God out! Keep it up (know it alls) and see what happens!
reisdorph 3 weeks ago
@reisdorph That's completely irrelevant.
religonisshit 3 weeks ago
@reisdorph
Actually violent crime is a lot lower today. Now, I doubt that atheism is responsible for that drop... but it does show that you are wrong about crime rates going up.
As to "God" being placed all over our nation and its monuments, that doesn't mean it's right. I have no problem you putting up crosses and references to god on your private property. Just don't use my tax dollars to promote your religion over everyone else's.
imrational 3 weeks ago 12
@imrational
Belief (no matter how seemingly well substantiated that belief may be) about whether crime rates have gone up, declined , or stayed the same surely is nothing other than belief about that.
MENCADO 3 weeks ago
@imrational OMG!!! YOU'RE RIGHT!!! I remember all of the horrible stories my parents and grandparents told me about all of the school shootings taking place when they were kids and how their parents were afraid to let them walk to the store by themselves and afraid to leave their doors unlocked at night... thank GOD we don't have to worry about that stuff AS MUCH anymore!!! :O
reisdorph 22 hours ago
@reisdorph
Any claim about what percentage of individuals ALLEGEDLY have the belief of there being any 'God' may be a FALSE claim.
So, while you may believe 95% of U.S. citizens to believe there to be a 'God' , that does not mean you have knowledge of what ACTUAL percentage of U.S citizens really do hold that belief.
MENCADO 3 weeks ago
@reisdorph You really should educate yourself a little more on the subject before you continue to embarrass yourself.
ThatOneQuestion 2 weeks ago
@ThatOneQuestion
You commented that, "You really should educate yourself a little more on the subject..."
If a person does not have knowledge of a subject, and if that person does research - in attempt to gain knowledge of that subject - then how would that person (if he or she would do so) know whether any of what he or she encounters - while doing that research - is information, is misinformation, or is disinformation about that subject?
MENCADO 2 weeks ago
@MENCADO How would they know? Depends what effort was put in to it, and what exactly this "research" entailed.
Its not like the bible, where you go with how you feel about what a single source says. Thats the whole problem.
If you really want to educate yourself on the subject, you must look at THOUSANDS of other sources, verify their validity on the subject, and actually spend a great deal of time reading all of it.
ThatOneQuestion 2 weeks ago
Now, since there is a lot of material on the subject-you cant stop there, you can't stop with just reading.
If you really want to know, go to a museum. Find the experts... and then CHECK on their research/conclusions/etc. Actually read their findings and what processes they used to reach those conclusions/findings.
Understand?
ThatOneQuestion 2 weeks ago
If any one source could contain an amount of misinformation and/or disinformation, then what is it - if any actual thing - that prevents multiple (even thousands of) sources from all containing misinformation and/or disinformation - or even from all containing the SAME misinformation and/or disinformation as each other? Does the mere fact of those sources being more than only one source somehow magically prevent that from occurring?
MENCADO 1 week ago
@ThatOneQuestion
It seems to me to be entirely possibly that multiple individuals might all believe and/or might all assert (or publish) the same false claim(s). So, the number of people who say that a claim is true is not really proof of whether that claim is true, is it?
MENCADO 1 week ago
@ThatOneQuestion
You - for example - might BELIEVE a claim to be true just because some number of sources all say that the claim is true, but that is different from you KNOWING whether the claim is true or not.The question of mine that you replied to was regarding the subject of knowledge, not that of believing what any number of sources (any sources) claim.
MENCADO 1 week ago
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@MENCADO *sigh* oh for fucks sake. Would you Creationists please understand what evidence is all about??
Its NOT that I might or might not "believe" or accept a claim, kiddo, its that I can see and REPLICATE the entire string of procedures and experiments to reach that same conclusion.
Yes, it IS about knowledge, idiot. And no, it is NOT about "believing" what a group "believes". You completely missed the point.
*sigh*
ThatOneQuestion 1 week ago
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MENCADO, have you ever looked at a peer reviewed scientific journal about something or another? Have you looked at the technical papers explaining every single step of an experiment that leads up to a result?
I seriously doubt it.
Have you been to a science class? Have you done any work in the chemistry or biology classes? Guess what, numb nuts, saaaaaame thing. Reality works a certain way, and we can replicate it.
You getting it yet?
ThatOneQuestion 1 week ago
@ThatOneQuestion
In other words: How is any unknowing person able (if any unknowing person can do so) to distinguish the difference between his or her being educated about a subject - and his or her instead being mis-educated about that subject?
MENCADO 2 weeks ago
@reisdorph Another moron (an illiterate one, at that) heard from.
kkong64 1 week ago
@reisdorph lol u get pwned by the vid owner
101796bg 1 week ago
@reisdorph You are a moron. "God" was placed all over our nation in the 1950's as a response to the knee-jerk fear of Communism. Most of our founding fathers were not Christian. They were atheists and deists. Benjamin Franklin wanted the motto on the money to be "Mind Your Business". Your ignorance on the history of our country is truly astounding.
ShojoBakunyu 2 days ago
@reisdorph Did you even WATCH the video before vomiting out your nonsense?
ShojoBakunyu 2 days ago
Hey buddy , you might wanna get your research right because the founding fathers all actualy believed in god ( higher power ) but they werent " Christians " and FYI the preamble and the declaration of independence and the freakin pledge were all originally wrote using the word " lord " not God but "our lord" aka God
SkinnyBurden 3 weeks ago
@SkinnyBurden
If you listen to the video a little closer, you'll see that I do not say the founding fathers were atheists. I merely said that many weren't Christian.
As to the Declaration of Independence and it's Preamble... that document was when we were under control of the British government and while it is an important document, it is outside of our Constitution. If you notice, the Constitution makes no reference to Christianity other than ensuring we have freedom of religion.
imrational 3 weeks ago 4
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@fuckmania07 You said "BURN IN HELL FOREVER OR BELIEVE IN JESUS"
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JezusSlave 4 weeks ago
Because it's what our children are going to be surrounded by.
Goldtacto 1 month ago 3
can i ask you...do you not believe in "God" because of how these "christians" have polutated "religion" to fit their fancy (which i don't agree w/ them i feel they are atheist to be honest & I feel God is NOT w/ them at ALL because they do EVERYTHING he say not to do smh) or you just don't why...? (if you don't mind me asking)
KeetWeet 1 month ago
Well said...
Great video!!!
ToeKnee4156 1 month ago
@peachesnpeas fuck off, troll.
0TheGuru0 1 month ago
Scumbag Athiests
PeachesNPeas 1 month ago
Shouldn't the question be why do theists care about (fear they're right) atheists.
Bramak17 1 month ago
Thank u as an atheist who has gone through so much prejudice im glad someone came out and said why we are mad great video
lmv3690 1 month ago
so "true atheism" is the ultimate luxery a human can reach in the short span of his life time.
it is a luxery that has to be fighted for with various meditation techniques and ascetims (abstinence from worldly pleasures) and so on.
somebody cultivating a bigger and bigger belly while sitting and playing a violent playstation game and throwing tons of toxic matter in him self is definitly one of the last persons to claim "atheism"
hahahahahhahahaha
welcome to the new era of spiritual awakening
sofianbelhedi 1 month ago
@sofianbelhedi Atheism isn't about worship, it is about believing in gods. And I don't don't believe in gods, therefore I am an atheist.
maxergud 1 month ago
@maxergud
the words believing,religion and gods are products of the week spirit of the aloholised and from mass media (globalisation) brainwashed average john.
there are no religions,there are spiritual traditions.
spirituality is about expanding the awareness of the average john,this can be done by ascetims (abstinance from worldly desires).
a god is anything than turns into the center of life of a perosn.
allah is the only thing that needs worship (not god,the gods of sinn).
sofianbelhedi 1 month ago
@sofianbelhedi That might be the stupidest thing anyone has ever said...ever.
Zentz29 1 month ago
@Zentz29
i don't remember my self having told aynbody that he is stupid,or offended in anyway.
it is better for you to clarify why you qualify me as stupid.
being far away from me shouldn't turn you into a coward who can only read comments and offend their posters.
take a look into your self
sofianbelhedi 1 month ago
@sofianbelhedi All you did in your comments is define words as you wanted to. You are only trying to make reality conform to your beliefs. derp derp
I don't believe in any god(s), I am an atheist.
"a god is anything than turns into the center of life of a perosn". That is stupid. The center of my life is my family and friends. I do not think that my family and friends are gods.
Sure, There are things I like doing. I very much enjoy playing video games. Games aren't god. derp derp
Zentz29 1 month ago
@Zentz29
good man.
don't forget to provide and provide to your family as well as to your friends. till you reach exauhstion.
to provide for them means you don't want to see your partens one day in the retirement home,you want to put them in your own house and care for them with your wife till their last breath.
part1
sofianbelhedi 1 month ago
@Zentz29
to provide for your friends means every now and than you find solutions to their existance problems,for instance by finding partners for them that they can mary,or giving them shelter for one or two years till they find a suitable job.
when one of those (family or friend you mentioned ) are sick than you sit near them and entertain them,see if they get their medecines in the right time and buy it for them if they can't buy it them selves.
part2
sofianbelhedi 1 month ago
@Zentz29
if the son or daughter of your brother or sister becomes orphan than you pit that kid into your home and care for him till he becomes strong and can care for him self.
if that is what you mean by they are the center of your life than yes ,they are no god/gods for you.
than yes you have a healthy relationship with them.not a god-slave relationship.
than you are in full controll of your selfe when it is about family and friends.
part 3
sofianbelhedi 1 month ago
@sofianbelhedi language barriers can be a pain.
Forget language, tell me why to believe in a god.
Zentz29 1 month ago
@Zentz29
if i tell you directly than you may think i'm crazy.
well the straight answer is the following :
we know since about 100 years that existence is space-time.
matter and energy are two faces of the same coin,matter can become energy and energy can become matter and both of them are aspects of space-time.
but in the known universe we have clear evidence that energy is turning into matter not matter into energy,matter can turn into energy in artificial laboratories (A-bomb).
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sofianbelhedi 1 month ago
@Zentz29
humans are not diffrent.
we only have a small specification that differs us from the rest of the universe wich is :
our body is matter and energy at the same time,further for some reason our body tries to balance the amount of matter and energy it is made of,and it is that what we call life.
when we die our body turns into pure matter wich can be ofcorse converted into energy in lab circumstances
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sofianbelhedi 1 month ago
@sofianbelhedi
that was intorduction.now to the point.
the energy that is part of our body is responsable for our seeing,hearing,mooving,thinking ,it doesn't only exist within the body but also around it (see the video in my uploads scientist filmed soul...).
the energy wich is into us and around us has some kind of "finger print".
each human has his own energy field wich reflects his being,just like our material body may reflect things about us.
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@Zentz29
when our "material body" changes,than our "energy body" (aura,spiritual body..) also changes and vice versa.
just like the "material body" the "energy body" can get ill,overweight,dirty,smelly and can also suffer degradation.
we all can identify a person on a councious level from his material body but on a unconcious level we have all the ability to identify and "feel" a person from his "energy body" (aura).
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sofianbelhedi 1 month ago
@Zentz29
to work on that aura normally a "master is needed" ,very few talented people didn't need one.
there is nothing wrong to have a "master".
mastery of the body/aura system is the goal,and the easier the way the better.often a master makes thinks extremly more easy.
a master is typicly a human (he can be dead or alive),but there are cultures where the master is not necessarly a human.
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sofianbelhedi 1 month ago
@Zentz29
masters have achieved through trial and error a high mastery of energy and matter.
their relationship with matter and energy is perfect.
health,morality,peace in life are just by-products of their search for ways to master matter and energy.
their ultimate goal is enlightenment.
for one reason or another masters have discovered that to make introspection (exploration of the aura and body through meditation) quicker higher entities have to be worshiped.
part6
sofianbelhedi 1 month ago
@Zentz29
this is because the masters have discovered after prolonged periods of meditation that the body/aura system is relative and will vanish at the end.
and that the truth is beyond the own body/aura system.
so they needed entities wich are independant from space-time,wich are above the rules humans are subject to .
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sofianbelhedi 1 month ago
@Zentz29
they needed non-relative frame of references,those higher enteties wether they existed or not was not relevant for them,they were considered subjects of meditation to gain knowledge about them selves and their surroundings.
enlightenment was the end stage.
that is why a "god" is needed.
after enlightenment is achieved the masters don't care anymore if the "god" was existent or not,
they are already living the life that should be lived if here were a "god".
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sofianbelhedi 1 month ago
@Zentz29
last but not final.
one can't discuss the matter of "god" if one didn't already beginn to awake (identify that he is more than just matter).
people with enhanced spirituality will at some point of their lives discover the ultimate superpower.
and that superpower is definitly not jesus,not you and not me.
many call it allah.
sofianbelhedi 1 month ago
@sofianbelhedi All you've done is ramble off a bunch of incoherent garbage. Let me know when you can back it up. Until you can, don't bother responding to this.
What you said is just weird.
You're not some kind of "spiritual guru" because you can say random, weird shit.
Islam is a disgusting religion.
Zentz29 1 month ago
@Zentz29
lol
i tried my best to express my self in a language wich is not my own.
i really mean what i have said.
their are already instruments that can detect our aura or the socalled spiritual body.
like for the body there are many tools to influence the make up of the spiritual body.
physical body and spiritual body are not separable.
islam,christianity,buhdism etc.. are all spiritual traditions,there is no such thing as religion.
part1
sofianbelhedi 1 month ago
@Zentz29
masters and higher entities are unavoidable if one really considers expanding awareness.
i don't claim i'm a guru or enlightened being.
i don't know if i will ever reach enlightenment.
but i can without doubt recommend you "paramahamsa nithyananda".
just give that name in the youtube search engine,he is a living enlightened young man.
he speaks english better than me and he is from india.
part2
sofianbelhedi 1 month ago
@Zentz29
never ever again let people mislead you and tell you they are atheists,there is no such thing as atheism.
and there is no such thing as religon.
there are no christians,no jews no muslims,no buhdists,atheists,agnostics,gnostics etc...there are only people with diffrent levels of knowledge and wisdom.
knowledge is gained by the sciences of the outern world (physics,math etc..)
wisdom is gained by the sciences of the inner world (meditation,travel,ascetims etc...).
part3
sofianbelhedi 1 month ago
@Zentz29
don't believe me before you try everything your self.
don't make a claim before you try everything your self.
if you want to be a genuine seeker than give everything a try.
if you fear your self you will fear everything else and than you are not free.
freedom is fearlessness
sofianbelhedi 1 month ago
@sofianbelhedi You said: "don't believe me before you try everything your self" I won't.
So let me guess. You've tried christianity, judaism, hinduism, buddhism, jainism, Sikhism, Mazdakism etc etc etc etc etc...?
If you have not tried all religions, how can you say you have the right one? Take your own advice and try everything yourself...derp
Zentz29 1 month ago
@Zentz29
worship the superpower no body else
sofianbelhedi 1 month ago
@sofianbelhedi Stop being an ignorant fool and nothing else.
Now what?
What the fuck is the 'superpower", and why do you believe in the "superpower"?
Quit using words until you understand what they mean.
Make sense, or shut up. If you don't make sense, people will ridicule you.
I ridicule you because you speak/type like an uneducated idiot.
Make sense or shut your fucking mouth until you learn how to make sense.
You have no good reasons to believe in your god...PERIOD
Zentz29 1 month ago
@Zentz29
You commented to sofianbelhedi, "Make sense or shut your fucking mouth..."
Anyone - or even more than one person - (even you) might mistakenly judge as seeming to make sense to him or her - or them - that which does not actually make any sense, or the converse of that might instead occur. So, the most that anyone could say (without resorting to expressing dogmatic belief in regard to the matter) is that something seems to him or her to make sense, or to not do so.
MENCADO 1 month ago
@MENCADO Your comment is exactly the type of thing I don't like to hear/see. You could have been much more clear about what you said if you didn't jumble words together like you did.
You said: "Anyone - or even more than one person".
"Anyone" means more than one person. There was no need to qualify the word "anyone" with it's own definition. Then you went on to say "even you" which is obviously included in the definition of the origional word, "anyone". Why? Why do you do that?
Zentz29 1 month ago
@Zentz29
So what if you don't like to see/hear any particular sort of comment? I certainly do not see that as being reason for that sort of comment to not be made.I don't particularly like the hostile tone in your previous comment, but - again - so what?
MENCADO 1 month ago
@Zentz29
By "Anyone - or even more than one person..." I meant any ONE PERSON or even more than one person. So no, the word 'anyone' was not meant to represent more than one person in that case, and I was not qualifying the word anyone with its own definition.
MENCADO 1 month ago
@MENCADO If you don't like what I say you should either ignore it, or try to explain why it's wrong. I get what you're saying. If I read a coment that I think is unclear, I should understand that it is myself, and not necessarily everyone else who doesn't understand it. The problem is that the words used don't have a coherent meaning in the language they were typed in based on the definitions of the words.
If you can define words to mean anything you want, the conversation is useless.
Zentz29 1 month ago
@Zentz29
You commented, "If you don't like what I say you should either ...".
While it may be your opinion that I should do either of those things, that does not mean it is a fact that I should do so. But, since you phrased it as if you know it to be a fact that I should do one or the other of those things, unless you present to me proof of that being the case, then you will not have provided me with any cause to consider it as being true.
MENCADO 1 month ago
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@MENCADO I meant it as an opnion. Anyway, you're just rambling on now like a weirdo so I'm done with you. THAT is a fact.
derp fucking derp...
Zentz29 1 month ago
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@Zentz29
Here is the sequence of events in review:
You had claimed, "If you don't like what I say you should either ..."
I challenged you on your claim of it being a fact that I "should" do that.
You, subsequently, claimed that (which you had PHRASED as a statement of FACT) to have been MEANT as an OPINION.
MENCADO 4 weeks ago
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@Zentz29
So, as far as I can tell by that, either:
a.) you had masqueraded what you knew to be a statement of opinion as being a statement of fact - or
b.) what you claim to have meant as an opinion you only subsequently realized (but did not honestly admit) to be a statement of opinion - or
c.) you were (and may still be) confused (though not admittedly so) as to whether what you had claimed to have meant as an opinion IS an opinion - or is NOT an opinion, instead.
MENCADO 4 weeks ago
@Zentz29
You claimed that, "The problem is that the words used don't have a coherent meaning in the language they were typed in based on the definitions of the words."
Again, that comment of yours is made according to what seems to you to be the case - which does not mean that it necessarily also IS the case. It is possible that you could believe yourself to correctly understand any particular word's definition while not actually doing so.
MENCADO 1 month ago
Zentz29
I mentioned that even you could do so for the sake of emphasizing the point that you are not exempt from being among those to whom that might occur, because you had (inadvertantly) claimed that sofiahedi's comments did not make sense - not just that they SEEMED to you to not do so.
MENCADO 1 month ago
(cont)
You said: "By "Anyone - or even more than one person..." I meant any ONE PERSON or even more than one person." "Anyone" means ANY POSSIBLE PERSON. What do you not understand about the definition of the word "anyone"? Using the word "anyone" in ANY CONTEXT covers ALL POSSIBLE HUMAN BEINGS ON THE PLANET.
This is the problem I had with the other guy. Don't make words mean what you want them to. If everyone (ALL PEOPLE) define words individually, noby can make a point.
Zentz29 1 month ago
@Zentz29
I agree that 'anyone' does mean any possible PERSON (singular).'Even MORE THAN one person', however, refers to multiple people. So, where I stated "Anyone..." (meaning any ONE person only) "... - or even MORE THAN one person..." I was making the distinction that it could occur either to only a single person or that it could instead occur to multiple people.
MENCADO 1 month ago
@Zentz29
'Everyone' includes all human beings (simultaneously) - ie. him AND her, and etc.. 'Anyone' refers to only any single person (at a time) - ie. - either him OR her, or etc..
MENCADO 1 month ago
@Zentz29,
It is one thing for you to claim that someone's comments ARE unclear (or ARE nonsensical) and it is another for you to instead state that those comments SEEM unclear (or seem nonsensical) TO YOU. After all, just because something may SEEM unclear or nonsensical to you that does not mean it necessarily IS so.
MENCADO 1 month ago
@Zentz29
And, if you truly embraced that possibility of your impression not being in keeping with reality, then you might be less inclined toward communicating with such hostility as you have apparently expressed towards sofiahedi, for example.
MENCADO 1 month ago
@sofianbelhedi what is your native language?
Zentz29 1 month ago
@Zentz29
you can hear me speak in the newest video in my uploads.
the video's name is "How to invite to Allah".
my native language is "tunisian arabic".it is a "version" of arabic only spoken in tunisia.
but i also speak german,french and understand spanish.
my english is only what i learned in school,and from personal study.
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sofianbelhedi 1 month ago
@Zentz29
i told you there are no religions.
only people have diffrent levels of spirituality.
one lives like an animal than goes into the dark night (i assume that you are in it),than awekens (kundalini shakti dormant energy awakes in the body),than you make an evolution in 3 or 4 steps,till at end you reach the level of master,you become enlightened .
when enlightened you live always in the here and now
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sofianbelhedi 1 month ago
@Zentz29
when one is not enlightened than there are two ways of becoming it.
first is try it alone,second is to get the help of a master.
when one becomes master than he may be only one of two diffrent kinds of master,the master that can lead others to enlightenment and the master who can't do it.
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sofianbelhedi 1 month ago
@Zentz29
when the master is a also a king than he is in a position with the most potencial to change the surrounding.
a person may also become a master and die without ever leaving a rain forest or a deep desert.
both are enlightened ,both have same value,but both of them have diffrent positions to operate from if they wish.
so the maste-rking or queen is the highest achievement a human being can do in his .
life.
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sofianbelhedi 1 month ago
@Zentz29
i didn't try all spiritual traditions.
but i was somehow all of them while awaekening,
but at the end one knows all of those spiritual tradition (islam,christianity...) are cultural manifestations of spirituality.
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sofianbelhedi 1 month ago
@Zentz29
please see my new apload "how to invite to allah".
sofianbelhedi 1 month ago
@sofianbelhedi Okay. Deutsch funktioniert. Verstehst du besser Deutsch als Englisch? Ich spreche Deutsch. Zentz ist mein richtiger Name. Es ist Deutsch.
I was hoping you would say spanish or german.
Zentz29 1 month ago
@sofianbelhedi Sie machen keinen Sinn, in Englisch. Probieren Deutsch.
Zentz29 1 month ago
@Zentz29
ok ..ich muss erstmal schlafen.
ich lebe in Minden westfalen und du ?
warum hast du nicht vom anfang an gesagt dass du deutscher bist ?
ich weiß nicht ob ich besser deutsch als english kann .
Meine Mutter sprache ist jedenfalls tunesisch arabisch.
kann es nicht sein dass du besser deutsch verstehst als english ?
sofianbelhedi 1 month ago
@sofianbelhedi I live in America. I was born and raised here. I learned to speak german because most of my family is german. I didn't tell you because I didn't know you could speak german.
You said english is not your native language so I thought maybe if you use a language you know better than english, you could be more clear about what you mean by all the spiritual mumbo jumbo you've been talking about.
I don't think it will help, but I thought I'd give it a try.
Zentz29 1 month ago
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sofianbelhedi 1 month ago
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@Zentz29
however if you are near family and friends to have advantage,status,money,care or whatsover than they are your god.
this doesn't mean that parents are the gods of their children ,that is a normal relationship.
frankly, how many people who are older than 20 are working,having money and as soon as their center of life (family and friends) have trouble (jail,illness,become old,addiction)
distance them selves from them and pretend they are much better than them ?!
part4
sofianbelhedi 1 month ago
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@sofianbelhedi I almost forgot.
You said: "being far away from me shouldn't turn you into a coward who can only read comments and offend their posters".
If you said what you did in person, I would tell you that what you said is stupid.
You implied that you would hurt me in some way with that sentence. We both know it.
If you get offended so eaisly, YOU need to "take a look into YOURSELF". derp
If someone calls you stupid, you should only be offended if you believe that you are.
Zentz29 1 month ago
@sofianbelhedi What a load of drivel.
maxergud 1 month ago
@maxergud
i did write some more drivel.
check it.
sofianbelhedi 1 month ago
@maxergud
so there are no atheists.
there are only monotheists (allah worshipers) and polytheists (those who doesn't worship allah and for that reasons are automaticly worshipping entities other than allah).
so called atheists are nothing but polytheists.
their gods range from alcohol to clint eastwood to harley davidson to pikinies to christmas trees to dogs to anything.
sofianbelhedi 1 month ago
so counter intuitiv but true :
there is nothing further from "atheism" than a so called atheists,and there is nothing more close to "atheism" than monotheists.
to reach nothingness (true atheism) there is only one way,wich is to focus and focus and focus on the superpower,even for decades if necessary.
once full concentration on the superpower is reached than it may or may not be easy to reach the final stepp of nothingness or "true atheism"
part2
sofianbelhedi 1 month ago
why do atheist care about religion ?
because there is no such thing as "atheism".
what people like today to call "atheism" is uncouncious plytheism.
so called atheists are worshiping things without knowing they do.
they may worship a rock band or a girl friend.
however religion is about knowingly and counciously to focus on one single thing to couciously shape one's own behaviour,it may be jesus,shiva or allah.
part1
sofianbelhedi 1 month ago
@sofianbelhedi what a crackpot.... exactly what superpower do "True Atheists" have to focus on for decades to become a "True Atheist"? You seem to have all the answers except how to spell or even use spell check in the YouTube text software.
cdickenson64 1 month ago
@cdickenson64
peace to you.
watch the following youtube video :
"Meditation Technique to Unclutch from Your Mind"
so called atheists have terrible strong minds, (mind is mental plaque wich is has accumulated and has to be cleaned,mind is dirt).
one either counciously worships worthy entities or one uncounciously worhsips unworthy enteties.
there is no "atheism"
if there is any "atheism" than it is enlightenment,this needs lots and years of spiritual devotion.
ask me
sofianbelhedi 1 month ago
the 4 noble truths.
"life is suffering.
the source of suffering is attachments.
suffering ends when attachments end.
freedom from suffering can be reached by practicing spiritual techniques".
wach the video in my uploads "how to meditate reloaded",it give you the simplest technique that people used again and again to achieve enlightenment (true atheism)
sofianbelhedi 1 month ago
I don't.
Bengals636 1 month ago
@Outbackcafe the bible is a series of stories that were rewritten countless times. Originally your religion was a pagan one the bible is not truth but a series of edited lies that try to represent themselves like truth and don't lie you have always been Christian I have never sinned either because sin does not exist get it trough your brain.
funnyvidssnet 1 month ago
good video and good points! good luck...
frilansspion 2 months ago
i dont like his voice and his arguments are flawed in places but damn thats a funky beat
FlCl3000 2 months ago in playlist Favorite videos
Atheist ar ehappeir in general. They do no thave religion to drag them down as the religiously infected do. I always at work tell christinas or muslims to read their bibles. It makes my job of setting them straight eaiser.
otherworldtrader1 2 months ago
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Have u lied? Have u stolen? Jesus said if you look at a woman with lust you have committed adultery with her in your heart. have u done that?
If God judge’s u by the Ten Commandments will u be innocent or guilty? Heaven or Hell? Does this concern you?
Do u need a Savior from your sins?
Jesus (The Son of God)came, lived a sinless life, died on the cross (for our sins) and rose again on the third day.
needgod.com
if you are interested in abortion or thinking of having one watch 180 movie
standingontruth1 2 months ago in playlist Religion
But the US Constitution trumps all State constitutions, therefore their religious tests are bunk.
serratedteeth 2 months ago 4
@outbackcafe bare in mind that the vast majority of prisoners themselfs are were not atheists when they werr sent there. they were either non-practitoning belivers or agnostic. as people become more intelligent, instead of blindly pursing vage idea they go for something more vast to reach a life long conclusion, rather then being told the conclusion from the get go.
Manguneshane 2 months ago
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We have to live you religous nutbags
13eyeofthebeholder 2 months ago
You live in the best country on earth, that country happens to be predominantly religious (atheists are in the vast minority). Get rid of Christianity and watch America go down the drain. Get a life you loser!
outbackcafe 2 months ago
@outbackcafe Why does the rate of atheism increase with intellegence, and why are there almost no atheists in prison?
xphreakyphilx 2 months ago
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@xphreakyphilx "Why does the rate of atheism increase with intellegence" Have you not heard of Francis Collins or John Lennox? Why are the majority of scientists, presidents, doctors etc people of faith?
" and why are there almost no atheists in prison?"
Because atheists are in the vast minority! You guys are a dieing breed, also many people in prison turn to God thus making up this somewhat misleading statistic. Anyway Atheists are the least trusted group in our society
outbackcafe 2 months ago
@outbackcafe Where do you get that "majority of scientists" are people of faith. I think you will find just the opposite. The reason presidents are people of faith are because there is no way they would get in office if they weren't. It's sad really. According to most studies, the more education and intelligent a person the less likely they are to be religious.
wraith168 1 month ago
@outbackcafe As for prisoners, you would think that atheists would be represented at a percentage consistent with the percentage in the population in general or even more so if you are one of those people that say that atheists have no morals. I've seen the number of atheists being anywhere from 10% - 20% in the US. In the prison population they make up less than .5%. Get rid of religion and crime may go down in the US. And atheism is on the increase not decline.
wraith168 1 month ago
why i care about religion, because it's my principal source of hate.
groscave23 3 months ago
Why atheist care about religion?
Well it only held us in the dark ages for a thousand years and continuously holds back in science to this day.
draydrone 3 months ago 5
I'm a Christian:
I agree with most of your points. Except for the more symbolic things. Actually, USA was found BECAUSE of Christianity, not necessarily ON it. PS I've never seen Christianity being taught by school teachers in my state (Massachusetts) other than in the Christian Private Shcool I used to go to.
Awesomeoneofawesome 3 months ago
@Awesomeoneofawesome Well duh, you're in Massachusetts. New England is one of the least religious regions of the country. It's a huge problem in places like Texas and Alabama.
GnarlyNewEngland 3 months ago
@GnarlyNewEngland
True, I guess that I've seen it as Atheists and Agnostics having the upper hand because of where I've lived.
Awesomeoneofawesome 3 months ago
The Christian God is one of Hate, not Love. He says he hates sin all the time, but the Christians believe his love is greater than that of a Mother. Then why does he send people to hell instead of Forgiving them? As thought accepting Christ is the only answer? The Christian God is Evil.
ThisFlat 3 months ago
@ThisFlat
People literally send themselves to hell instead of allowing him to save them.
Awesomeoneofawesome 3 months ago
@Awesomeoneofawesome No if god set the rules he sends them to hell. How is anything I do keep him from saving me? How do I allow him to save me? Some action can keep him from doing something? He can do anything he wants supposedly. Why is it that some one can be good all their life but just not believe in god and be damned to hell for eternity. On the flip side, someone can do bad throughout their life but repent and be saved. This god has issues.
wraith168 1 month ago
causality + God -> google it
souinvisiblebr 3 months ago in playlist Atheism
I am an atheist. I care about religion because:
~The hymns that are born of religious beliefs are really beautiful, and even if I don't believe in what their message is, I really enjoy listening to them.
~The churches and cathedrals raised by those of religious beliefs are undeniably beautiful, and I love admiring the painstakingly detailed artwork.
~Religioin does seem to encourage good behavior, most of the time.
~Becuase my best friend hates me now, because I'm an atheist.
Nerdfighter21 3 months ago 4
@Nerdfighter21
Great comment.
I disagree slightly with "religion does seem to encourage good behavior, most of the time", seeing how many problems they have caused (and still cause)... but appreciated the rest.
Thanks for posting.
imrational 3 months ago 4
@imrational You are correct about this. Religion is the biggest promoter of Hatred. Religion is the reason Gays/Lesbians are discriminated against and sometimes get kicked out of their homes, jobs, and who knows what else. Religion promotes hate towards these groups, because they are different and are said to be evil or corrupted. It's no different towards Atheist. Religion should be banned all together. Or should not be taught and one should find their own.
ThisFlat 3 months ago
@ThisFlat The biggest promoter of hatred has always been those who wanted to control others. Sometimes they have used religion. They have also used atheism (which contrary to the mantra here, is not historically neutral). The church I go to supports gay marriage. God is a God of forgiveness, mercy, justice, love, and grace. That is clearly taught by Jesus of Nazareth.
landsdown44 3 months ago
@landsdown44 I disagree with you on that. If your Church allows Gay marriages, which I think is a great idea, then you're Church is not a True Christian Church. Clearly, your "Holy Scripture" condemns Gay/Lesbian marriage, or anyone having same sex experiences. Those people are to be stoned to death. Clearly God is not a merciful God. That is clear discrimination against Gay/Lesbians. If your church allows it, that's great, there is hope for this world after all. Set aside our differences
ThisFlat 3 months ago
@ThisFlat Clearly, Holy Scripture does NOT condemn homosexuality. There are 5 Biblical texts used to hammer gays. They are Genesis 19, Leviticus 18:22, I Corinthians 6:9, I Timothy 1:10, and Romans 1: 26-27. That's it. I have studied those texts in their origional languages (Hebrew and Greek) and in their origioinal context. None of them can legitimately be used to oppose homosexualty. Fundamentalism has distorted those texts to support their bigotry.
landsdown44 3 months ago
@landsdown44 You are correct on that. I went and did a little research myself and found out the same thing. But the above comment I posted, is the common mentality of the average Christian. Religion is a way to control people through any means necessary and if one group doesn't agree, wipe them out. That is why I despise Religion and have for some time now. It's clearly a tool that promotes hate and not love. Love is only promoted to people that think alike.
ThisFlat 3 months ago
@landsdown44 Did you know that the countries that have little to no religious belief system to rule them, are actually the most peaceful and have very little crime? Look at Norway, Denmark, and Iceland. All predominantly Atheist. I'm not trying to take sides here, but from what I've seen with my own eyes, Religion does seem to promote violence and hatred. Not all Religions though, but most.
ThisFlat 3 months ago
@ThisFlat I agree that religion has caused violence and intorlerance. However, The countries you name all have a Christian heritage, their legal systems are based on Christian fundamentals. That is true for virtually all of Europe. The countries with the most intolerant and violent records are those in which religion was forbidden. That would be U.S.S.R., China, Cambodia, N. Korea, to name just four.
landsdown44 3 months ago
@landsdown44 You're talking about places where there were dictators and these dictators were radical changes to the country following an ideology. Do you even know the history of it? Religions were eradicate because the dictators wanted to establish a cult of personality viewing themselves to the people like "gods" pretty much like medieval Europe and all around the world before 1800. It had nothing to do with atheism.
Blasthood 3 months ago
@Blasthood Really nice try, attempting to distance yourself from the atheist idiology that typified the states where religion was forbidden. If you knew the history of it, and clearly you do not, you would know that it was not just a couple of dictators, but an entire system which rejected religion, and in the process became genocidal beyond imagination.
landsdown44 3 months ago
@landsdown44 Look i studied these and it was not under the banner of "atheism" that they did this. Research the policies of Stalin, Mao and Hitler. They wanted to build a an imagery of omnipotence around them to be in fact revered as "gods" and feared just as much. But why was it forbidden? Surely not because of atheism but because of that exact policy. Now contrast it with Franco who instead encouraged christianity to establish. Unlike the others his cult was far less noticeable.
Blasthood 3 months ago
@Blasthood Look, I studied these and it WAS under the banner of atheism that they committed genocide. Here's just one example: William H. Chamberlin, a Moscow Correspondent in Moscow for 12 yrs. wrote, "In Russia the world is witnessing the first effort to destroy completley any belief in superenatural interpretation of life." The atheist governments of USSR, China, Cambodia, N. Korea ALL committed genocide, particularly agaist people of faith.
landsdown44 3 months ago
@landsdown44 Look, Chamberlin was an outsider and saw the things differently and did not know the plans of the government at the time. I could go to Japan and make a similar statement not knowing the true objective of their government. What those dictators wanted was control, a genocide is nothing more than a means to induce fear on people, and not only it also rendered as a useful way to gather slaves to work in the gulags. It was all about free labour force and control.
Blasthood 3 months ago
@Blasthood Chamberlin was not a visitor to Russia. He was a correspondent there for 12 years. What he saw and reported on are considered an accurate observation. Sorry, your attempt to discredit Chamberlin is just not working because you have nothing to back it up except the fact that you don't like it. The ruthless form of atheism practiced in each of those countries named is simply not coincidental.
landsdown44 3 months ago
@landsdown44 Are you kidding? There was a report done by a priest and said that everything was being done for the common good of the people and that it represented a very positive way of achieving an utopia. The argument is the same so you're just a fake. And yet you cannot defend yourself against an accusation regarding the many wars triggered by religion, because those were openly supported by the religious class.
Blasthood 2 months ago
@Blasthood Sorry, but you don't get to make points by making up stuff. - a priest liked what he saw in Russia? What was going on was the systematic execution of most clergy and people of faith.I would never defend a war triggered by religion. There have always been despots who used religion for their power and greed. And most wars regarded as religious (the long standing war in Northern Ireland for example) had acutally nothing to do with religion. Any good student of history knows this.
landsdown44 2 months ago
@landsdown44 Very well but then, how do you find the manpower for such a war if the religion is not use as a pretext? Religion is an effective way to get manpower, and the many who join are indeed religious and believe in what their fighting. I know that it's about a feud over the land that was once Ireland, but the pretext is the same, it is fought by people who believe. If religion was taken away, the turmoil would be minor. Anyway i'll get you the file worry not so i can prove you.
Blasthood 2 months ago
@Blasthood The pretext in the war in Northern Ireland was fueled mostly by nationalism, not religion. If religion was taken out of the equation the result would have been the same. For example. in 16th Cent. Europe, the Mennonites refused to have their infants baptised and were slaughtered for it. Slaughtered for differences in baptism? NO! Infant baptism was seen as acceptance of citizenship in the state. To refuse such baptism was seen as treason, hardly a religious issue. Again nationalism.
landsdown44 2 months ago
@Blasthood "And yet you cannot defend yourself against an accusation regarding the many wars triggered by religion, because those were openly supported by the religious class." What crap, no wonder landsdown44 is destroying your arguments. Atheists are the biggest mass murderers of all time, and continue with great acceleration to this day. Well not all there are some atheists who oppose murder Christopher Hitchens for example, he is against the murder of the innocent unborn baby.
outbackcafe 2 months ago
@outbackcafe Would you mind backing up that claim with some facts?
serratedteeth 2 months ago
@serratedteeth What claims in particular, I have made many? If abortion then that is a no brain er, Christians don't build abortion clinics they vigorously oppose them. As already mentioned there are some exceptions, Christopher Hitchens is one example. he believes the scientific fact that a living human being is formed when the sperm meets the egg. these innocent babies that get murdered each second are not given a chance to live, some could become great scientists etc
outbackcafe 2 months ago
@outbackcafe My apologies. I was referring to your claim that "Atheists are the biggest mass murderers of all time, and continue with great acceleration to this day."
serratedteeth 2 months ago
@serratedteeth Sorry if my words are a bit strong, I figured if you love babies than you must hate abortion.
outbackcafe 2 months ago
@outbackcafe Wow, I read through all the back and forth with you. There is so much fail in just about everything you said, I wouldn't even know where to begin. I give credit to those that did try imparting some sense to you. I think it was a useless effort though. There is no way you are ever going to look at anything objectively.
wraith168 1 month ago
@outbackcafe So much misinformation, so little space to respond. So, I'll address abortion statistics. In the U.S., nearly 70% are obtained by christians.
"Women identifying themselves as Protestants obtain 37.4% of all abortions in the U.S.; Catholic women account for 31.3%, Jewish women account for 1.3%, and women with no religious affiliation obtain 23.7% of all abortions. 18% of all abortions are performed on women who identify themselves as 'Born-again/Evangelical'." - abortionno org
YY4Me133 2 months ago
@YY4Me133 I would like to know how these statistics were obtained? I did use the word christian loosely, real Christians do not build abortion clinics, (As stated before) they vigorously oppose them! Any woman (thou shall not kill) who calls herself a Christian and has a abortion is a liar. The fact is atheists are in the vast minority so even if true 18% for born again women is a very small percentage since they outnumber women with "no religious affiliation obtain 23.7% of all abortions"
outbackcafe 2 months ago
@outbackcafe I gave