From Airforcetimes website: crash investigation of Osprey in Qalat Afghan. April 2010 revealed engine failure. Military wanted chief investigator to change his report to "pilot error". "The stresses of flying in the dirt and dust of Afghanistan probably caused the engine problems" BGen. Harvel, chief investigator said. He was not allowed to brief the families of the 4 KIA onboard. Maybe Airforce wants to coverup the reliability problems of this overpriced $67M helo?
@AccordGTR well thats probably party due to inflation. Modern aircraft are always more expensive because they are becoming increasingly complex. the v-22 is still new give it time to work out all the bugs. The reason why the osprey is better is because its faster, longer range, and can carry more soldiers/equipment
@afireinside44203, your an idiot. that's called trial and error, essential to engineering, this isn't playland where everything happens perfect the 1st time,by your logic, humans should be grounded and never tried again
@afireinside44203 that crash was also pilot error. but lets go by your logic for time being - you made a mistake so lets shut you off from the internet and never let you post again.
@afireinside44203 Your wrong, ive been in one mid-flight. ive seen them land and take off, transition to prop plane and back. they are stable aircraft. i mourn the marines that lost their life to the osprey, but without them, like necesicary evil said, we couldnt advance. did we ground the shuttle because of the explorer incedent? no. did we ground the blackhawk because of its crashes in the early phases? the huey? the cobra? the comanche? the apache? your friends were heroes. dont forget that.
@skynat247 You are matching apples against oranges!!! EVERY accident that you mentioned was an accident - something that is fixable - went wrong. With the Osprey - it is one thing after the next - and several people die when this piece of junk crashes!!!!! It is no longer necessary - but I think they have sunk so many Billions into the Osprey project - they cannot back out now - so we are stuck with the V-22 "Widow Maker"!!!!!!!!
Thats more or less the distinct advantage of tilt rotor: faster, more manourable than helis, but can hover unlike jets AND can have bigger payloads as the rotars are situated at the tips of the wings instead of above the body. The downside is youre gonna need a real big flat area to land this piece of crap
@weirdcitykid : The Osprey is faster then a Chinook and got a bigger range of action. Ejecting you cant do from an Osprey. Have you ever seen an Eject from a C130 for example? ;)
@weirdcitykid the v-22 doesn't have an ejections system, some aircraft such as the b-52 do have ejection seats that go through the floor, but I do not believe this aircraft has that system.
The point of the Osprey was to function as a combination of both a plane and a helicopter. That means large cargo space, and flying at much higher speeds than helicopters, and then sweep back the propellers when landing or taking off, like a VTOL. It's basically a VTOL cargo plane.
not all aircrafts are perfect and it takes time improving them.
the v22 osprey had a hard time, but I think it was worth the struggle. Having an aircraft flying 6 times as long, carrying twice as much, at 3 times the speed and still being capable to land vertical as an helicopter.
I could design a more convincing flying machine using cereal packets and a papercip!! This looks like drunken crane fly. Terrible thing you won't catch me in it...damned thing looks like it's going to crash and it's only about 8 foot from the floor.
They need to put the second propeller underneath - jesus H mother of God that thing looks daft! Please hide it from the Russians they may laugh at us!
@Dogmeat1950 ha ha you are an idiot! the osprey goes 320 knots, thats more than twice as fast as the 53s 150 knots. also have you heard of the mi-26? it has a gross takeoff weight of aroung 123,000 pounds. thats alot more than the 53s 68,000.
watch?v=6SrUyNG4fYA yeah that's right i really looks like the osprey but at this time they werent trying to build a vtol airplane they just wanted to build a helicopter, because of his long arms he was called 'dragon'...
Hey guys, although it may not be as fast, check out this fully operational combat vtol from 1940 that looks very similar to the Osprey and performs the same roles. 68 years later and not a lot of change. I'm talking about the second craft shown on the following vid, not the first one.
Secondly, you'd not say that if France built it... so keep your mouth shut. ;)
Thirdly, this is basically a new design for helicopters, so of course it's going to have glitches in it at first. If we stick with it, in 5-10 years, it'll be a great platform.
The first manned flight (by Wright brothers) wasn't something to write home about either, compared to aircraft built just 30 years later.
There always has to be a beginning! And this is it!
I think this aircraft is really cool, but Ive read all the reports about its flaws, and deaths resulting from them in training flights etc. Does anyone know what AF pilots, etc think about this craft?
my physics teacher was an engineer on these things. freakin awesome plane/helicopter thing-a-mo-bob
xGH0ST11x 3 months ago
It's IF they will crash, but WHEN!
AntiSemantic1 3 months ago
That would be YOU'RE an idiot.
simonthesmith 5 months ago
That craft is so unsafe
TkMToM1993 6 months ago
Horrible machine, truly a failure of engineering.
Zukhov1945 6 months ago
@Zukhov1945 this is an engineering wonder ;)
ddioppp 4 months ago
@Zukhov1945 i would like to see you do better
mrcodypettit 3 months ago
V-22 Osprey, twice the ROFL for the Coptor
BlueRaptorTiger 7 months ago
From Airforcetimes website: crash investigation of Osprey in Qalat Afghan. April 2010 revealed engine failure. Military wanted chief investigator to change his report to "pilot error". "The stresses of flying in the dirt and dust of Afghanistan probably caused the engine problems" BGen. Harvel, chief investigator said. He was not allowed to brief the families of the 4 KIA onboard. Maybe Airforce wants to coverup the reliability problems of this overpriced $67M helo?
AccordGTR 7 months ago
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So far, each V-22 Osprey costs the US taxpayer over $67M. Huey used to cost less than $5M and is much more reliable and efficient.
AccordGTR 7 months ago
@AccordGTR well thats probably party due to inflation. Modern aircraft are always more expensive because they are becoming increasingly complex. the v-22 is still new give it time to work out all the bugs. The reason why the osprey is better is because its faster, longer range, and can carry more soldiers/equipment
1airplane21 4 months ago
looks great. in fact this is one of the really sexy design concepts in aviation... and it ends there.
rothkoaintdead 9 months ago
14 Marines from my company died in one of these in 2000. They should be grounded and never flown again!!
afireinside44203 10 months ago
@afireinside44203, your an idiot. that's called trial and error, essential to engineering, this isn't playland where everything happens perfect the 1st time,by your logic, humans should be grounded and never tried again
necessaryevil101 10 months ago 11
@necessaryevil101 thumbs up!
louielouie11224 10 months ago
@afireinside44203 that crash was also pilot error. but lets go by your logic for time being - you made a mistake so lets shut you off from the internet and never let you post again.
oldfrend 10 months ago 6
@afireinside44203 Your wrong, ive been in one mid-flight. ive seen them land and take off, transition to prop plane and back. they are stable aircraft. i mourn the marines that lost their life to the osprey, but without them, like necesicary evil said, we couldnt advance. did we ground the shuttle because of the explorer incedent? no. did we ground the blackhawk because of its crashes in the early phases? the huey? the cobra? the comanche? the apache? your friends were heroes. dont forget that.
skynat247 9 months ago
@skynat247 You are matching apples against oranges!!! EVERY accident that you mentioned was an accident - something that is fixable - went wrong. With the Osprey - it is one thing after the next - and several people die when this piece of junk crashes!!!!! It is no longer necessary - but I think they have sunk so many Billions into the Osprey project - they cannot back out now - so we are stuck with the V-22 "Widow Maker"!!!!!!!!
Earthlinked 8 months ago
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thomaspruzina 1 year ago
@thomaspruzina But they are cool.
fluffisback2 1 year ago
@thomaspruzina "check the internet"
Oh my God.
acromp 1 year ago
Thats more or less the distinct advantage of tilt rotor: faster, more manourable than helis, but can hover unlike jets AND can have bigger payloads as the rotars are situated at the tips of the wings instead of above the body. The downside is youre gonna need a real big flat area to land this piece of crap
HailTheBackwardsMan 1 year ago
@weirdcitykid : The Osprey is faster then a Chinook and got a bigger range of action. Ejecting you cant do from an Osprey. Have you ever seen an Eject from a C130 for example? ;)
watch?v=5uzpDy3n3Vs <- C130 ;)
michi119 1 year ago
this thing would make a good gunship as well
TURKSTA19 1 year ago
serious question - how does a pilot eject from this if need be?
weirdcitykid 1 year ago
@weirdcitykid im guessing you don't, same thing as a helicopter you just gotta go along for the ride. but thats my guess.
TheZombieGrinder 1 year ago
@weirdcitykid well, he can just walk out the door that is right next 2 him ....
maxime0999 1 year ago
@weirdcitykid you dont eject from a passenger helicoptor.
blkschizo 1 year ago
@weirdcitykid the v-22 doesn't have an ejections system, some aircraft such as the b-52 do have ejection seats that go through the floor, but I do not believe this aircraft has that system.
alpacaaviator 10 months ago
@weirdcitykid they don't eject
GMdark11 10 months ago
What was wrong with the chinook anyway? This can't do anything the Chinook couldn't do - only far less stable.
weirdcitykid 1 year ago
@weirdcitykid
The point of the Osprey was to function as a combination of both a plane and a helicopter. That means large cargo space, and flying at much higher speeds than helicopters, and then sweep back the propellers when landing or taking off, like a VTOL. It's basically a VTOL cargo plane.
Izdigger5 9 months ago
not all aircrafts are perfect and it takes time improving them.
the v22 osprey had a hard time, but I think it was worth the struggle. Having an aircraft flying 6 times as long, carrying twice as much, at 3 times the speed and still being capable to land vertical as an helicopter.
Also i want one for Christmas! :)
battlemaster116 1 year ago
terrible design.
weirdcitykid 1 year ago
@weirdcitykid disign one better.
doomsday1945 1 year ago
@doomsday1945
I could design a more convincing flying machine using cereal packets and a papercip!! This looks like drunken crane fly. Terrible thing you won't catch me in it...damned thing looks like it's going to crash and it's only about 8 foot from the floor.
They need to put the second propeller underneath - jesus H mother of God that thing looks daft! Please hide it from the Russians they may laugh at us!
weirdcitykid 1 year ago
Man..this thing looks so unstable to fly that it will just take one crew member to fart to tilt the aircraft to his direction.....
Texasdeathstyle 1 year ago
blackhatch46 I was talking about USMC choppers not Russia.
Dogmeat1950 1 year ago
change the rotors to VTOL jet engine to save space for landings..
helmetBETTY 2 years ago
They tried and failed it crashed on descent so they changed it to turbo props
TheLdsrules 1 year ago
@helmetBETTY
it would use too much fuel and chew up the flight deck.
petec9686 1 year ago
um..nothing thing can carry more and go much faster then the 53.
Dogmeat1950 2 years ago
@Dogmeat1950 ha ha you are an idiot! the osprey goes 320 knots, thats more than twice as fast as the 53s 150 knots. also have you heard of the mi-26? it has a gross takeoff weight of aroung 123,000 pounds. thats alot more than the 53s 68,000.
blackhatch46 1 year ago
Wouldn't it have been possible to add a turboreactor between the blades on the top of the aircraft, for cruise?
Battery9876 2 years ago
I imagine you have to be so skilled to fly one of those its insane.
Knothole 2 years ago
I sort of agree. They didn't mess up by buying it though. I will be flying in about 10 years and I wish I could have flown the 53, great aircraft.
MasterSniper97 2 years ago
Do you mean the CH-53 if so tell us the nickname and how it got it .
aussiebluemax 2 years ago
Do you know what the 53's are nicknamed? It's for a very good reason.
dolamyte911 2 years ago
watch?v=6SrUyNG4fYA yeah that's right i really looks like the osprey but at this time they werent trying to build a vtol airplane they just wanted to build a helicopter, because of his long arms he was called 'dragon'...
reverent1993 2 years ago
Hey guys, although it may not be as fast, check out this fully operational combat vtol from 1940 that looks very similar to the Osprey and performs the same roles. 68 years later and not a lot of change. I'm talking about the second craft shown on the following vid, not the first one.
watch?v=6SrUyNG4fYA
Who thinks the visual similarity is striking?
Grommo 4 years ago
A good similarity...however was that a tilting rotor aircraft?...it was a helicopter with 2 rotors...Am I right or not?
nebunu1force 3 years ago
it looks similar yes
but so very different too
plus they did so much crap back then
they made planes that looked like CD'S and shit like that so actually its not that much of a surprise :P
orisei 2 years ago
other than for showingg skill, whats the main purpose of a touch and go? i jsut wanna no
gamesx12 4 years ago
normally it is so that in an emergency you know that you can pull off really quickly and secondly it makes sure you plane can take the stress
bchgators 2 years ago
"a" not "are"
Secondly, you'd not say that if France built it... so keep your mouth shut. ;)
Thirdly, this is basically a new design for helicopters, so of course it's going to have glitches in it at first. If we stick with it, in 5-10 years, it'll be a great platform.
The first manned flight (by Wright brothers) wasn't something to write home about either, compared to aircraft built just 30 years later.
There always has to be a beginning! And this is it!
Northax 4 years ago
I think this aircraft is really cool, but Ive read all the reports about its flaws, and deaths resulting from them in training flights etc. Does anyone know what AF pilots, etc think about this craft?
kovacsbocephus 4 years ago
The V-22 is an awsome step in a great direction for aviation, don't be dissin' my favorite aircraft now
klex133 4 years ago