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  • Your right cause he is like the voice of the band. I went to see them live and well. The new singer tried to cover his songs and shit but it was not even that good. Don't get me wrong the new singer is cool and nothing against him but like getting a new singer is like having someone replace your bestfriend.  Or even the pianist or guitarist or the drummer. There better off changing the new as well and start fresh rather then this aha. But chiodos is my favorite band

  • I think Craig Owens sucks. I always have. When I first found this band in 09 I was like wow that guy needs to go and he did and they are much better.

  • Craig is the shit. I've seen him live in Destroy Rebuild...yada yada...and he was really good. And then I tried listening to the NEW chiodos, and nothing about them sounds the same. Completely different music, Soooo...they suck.

  • Chiodos was great with Craig, and Brandon isn't bad at all. But if they never kicked Craig out then D.R.U.G.S would never been formed. And now D.R.U.G.S is way better then Chiodos. :) everything happens for a reason.

  • Feel free to disagree, but the former lead singer of Chiodos is not a talented singer. Everyone these days thinks that because someone has a naturally high range and can scream poorly pronounced words and toss some autotuner on it that they are talented. I can say nothing for his leadership, passion, or commitment. Maybe he did "make" chiodos by bringing a . . . unique sound, but he will probably still make music so big deal. Maybe Chiodos wanted to try having someone who can actually sing.

  • So when Illuminaudio released, I was super excited and couldn't wait to give it a listen. I had been living under a rock and was not aware of the Craig/Chiodos split. So... Though the album wasn't bad, I was instantly disappointed. It just wasn't the Chiodos that I knew and loved.

  • craig spells chiodos. chiodos spells craig. craig chiodos spells. chiodos craig spells. spells chiodos craig. spells craig chiodos. man, i think i miss craig...

  • I agree. Craig is Chiodos. He's the face we all know that has represented them.

  • Brandon is better.

  • @StanOfGB brandon is a fag

  • Craig is chiodos.... agreed

  • thumbs up if you paused at 0:57 to see what it said

  • and a shave*

  • Fuck Craig Owens. He got kicked out for having a huge ego, he even had to have his OWN tour bus.

  • @PanKizzaL I don't know if that's true, but if it is it wasn't because of his ego, he was severely bipolar and depressed, probably a bit more to him like claustrophobia. I'd probably be the same

  • @PanKizzaL Even if he had a huge ego, he was and is fucking amazing. So oh well I'd rather be in a great band makign great music and having too deal with a guy being a dick rather than being losers like they are now xD

  • haha now look almost 2 years later and the new Chiodos BLOWS!!!

  • Your a skinny loser that needs a hair cut

  • Im not a Craig Owens fan Im a Chiodos fan but I still dont really like the new album as much as the old ones

  • I TOTALY AGREE WITH YOU WITH THAT. CRAIG MADE CHIODOS!!

  • not a chiodos fan your just a craig owens fan

  • @MrShaggythedude youre a fucking retard. craig owens was the band.

  • @MrIIshadowII well your one ignorant bitch because people like you expecting sooo much from craig made him attempt to overdose on drugs a while back

  • @MrShaggythedude how am i ignorant? once craig left the band, chiodos went to the shithole. d.r.u.g.s. is the same way, if he was to leave, there isnt d.r.u.g.s. anymore. you dont have to expect anything from him to know if hes in a band and leaves, that band is utter shit afterwards. shut the fuck up.

  • @XxXDreammakerXxX I was lmao at it

  • i agree 194871029470294% with you. doesnt matter if craig doesnt write anything. his vocals are amazing and hes super hot! plus he makes his bands famous because hes famous himself... i mean look at d.r.u.g.s.

  • Answer these question and then decide whether or not Craig was what made chiodos great. Does Craig write the beautiful piano parts that appear in alot of their songs like Lexington or The Word Best Friend is Redefined? Does he write any of the crazy guitar sweeps/solos in alot of their songs? Did he ever once get on the drums and play a sexy beat that was later added into one of their songs?

    We all know his voice is great but It is not why Chiodos are famous. Its the instrumentals.

  • @glentendo24 I somewhat agree with you here, the instrumentals did play a major role in Chiodos' success as a band.

    However, once Brandon stepped onto the stage, they lost those instrumentals.

    Illuminaudio contains none of the same musical feeling that All's Well That Ends Well did, they completely changed as a band. Whether or not someone thinks old or new is better than the other can only be based on personal preference.

  • no doubt drugs is going to be way better than chiodos. Drugs is a supergroup. Chiodos isn't. Case closed.

  • @drummer4life2014 Ignorant

  • @Susyownsyou Ignorant

  • LMFAO We all know that Craig was Chiodos without him its going to suck

  • Haha, i think craig is a good vocalist and an excellent performer, but I also know that chiodos will be fine without him, just watch to the fueltv video of caves. Chiodos is alive and well

  • LOL "skinny loser who needs a hair cut" xD

  • Mmmm I think that was a great change , now Chiodos have Brandon and is excellent for Chiodos and now Craig has D.R.U.G.S both bands are great, and now all we can heard this bands, because they music is great.

  • It doesn't matter. His new band D.R.U.G.S is already more successful than Chiodos. So it don't even matter. Aha.

  • Chiodos SUCKS DICK now without Craig. I agree, Craig was Chiodos. RIP Chiodos! You'll never be the same again </3 (WAKE THE FUCK UP YOU STUPID BAND AND BRING CRAIG BACK!!!!!!!)

  • @SilencedxGhost You are actually 100% right in a way.

  • @thecityisoursxD So I like how now Chidos is pretty fucking sexy with the new guy.

  • brandon should of stand in yesterday rising theyre way better than chiodos but i like him in chiodos.

  • Well Craig was the best part of Chiodos but atleast SKSK singer isn't left without a band

  • you need to get a haircut :p

  • chiodos is 100000000000000000000000000000­000 times better now. craig is a fucking faggot.

  • @TheTdwpforever WAKE UP THEY SUCK NOW!!!

  • @TheTdwpforever um... no!

  • @TheHardcoreOctopus um... YA!

  • Chiodos SUCK without him.

  • "Chiodos, You Wouldn't Last a Minute Without Craig Owens on the Creek."

  • Craig Owens and Matt Goddard are what got me into Chiodos, love their sound but I'm pretty sure that Craig's side projects aren't the only reason he got kicked out. He battles bi-polar disorder and that coupled with his drug addiction I'm sure became a serious obstacle for his bandmates. Either way, as a fan of both Chiodos and DRUGS, I feel like I lucked out because I now have 2 bands to like. Kinda like when the lead singer of Circa left Saosin, ya know?

  • Bulls make money, bears make money, Chiodos without Owens gets slaughtered.

  • @wolfboy12321

    are you fucking kidding me?!?!?! dont even say that. thats a sin xD craig is the best part of chiodos(was) and brandon sounds like a retarded camel created by doctor frankenstein and recorded his voice under water. he sucks...

  • Brandon inspires me. I don't like craig.

  • criag owens is better than brandon bolmer!! nd i agree with this guy :D

  • Agree, Craig Owens was chiodos.

    and now they are terrible.

  • THAT SINGER SUCKED

  • yeah that loser brandon will never be better than craig. NEVER.

  • Brandon in Chiodos> Craig in Chiodos. Always;

  • their new singer sounds like him. but he will never be as good.

  • i thing craig just left like sonny moore did with from first to last or aaron from underoath

  • your a skinny loser that needs a haircut lol

  • I agree 2010% They are going to end up wanting Craig back, and he won't go because he knows in the end. He was Chiodos. Guess who is going to Warped this year? Not Chiodos :D. But DRUGS is <3. hahaha, I give them respect for trying to do there thing. But Craig Owens with Chiodos is like BMTH with oliver sykes. The band is nothing without the iconic front man. That is what Craig is, and was.

  • Illuminado is amazing and so is DRUGS, risky move turned out to be great move, 1 great band multipied into 2 great bands, great stuff i think

  • new albums sucks with out Craig!

  • Chiodos was chiodos wiyh craig.. now its just...hmm.. Not the same!

  • Craig was the only part of Chiodos I didn't like. He was too cocky and asking for it. Glad things worked out.

  • I mean Yesterdays Rising WAS always the best! Listen to Lightworker. this union was always meant to happen

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  • That's what happens when u bang Pete wentz' wife :)

  • NEw vocalist is such a better person then craig.

  • Agree!!! chiodos is Craig!!

  • No.. Chiodos committed suicide by kicking Craig out. He's fine, them.. not so much.

  • Craig was the heart of that Chiodos!

  • chiodos got better

  • lol not just chiodos fans call you a skinny loser that needs to get a hair cut...

  • D.R.U.G.S Is amazing, enough said.

  • well Drugs and Chiodos are still my favorites whether chiodos lost a singer or what >.> Chiodos are better off and so is Craig i guess

  • the new singer and craig are both amazing just craig was better then the new one

  • you skinny loser!! get a haircut!

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  • i think it was kind of good thing in a way cause drugs is a fuckin badass band, c'mon brand new band touring with bvb what publicity for a new band.

  • @ashtynmyra1104

    Well you also have to remember that while D.R.U.G.S. is a new band, all of their players have been in other really well known bands. Craig was in Chiodos, Aaron was in Matchbook Romance, Nick was in Underminded, Matt was in From First to Last, and Adam was in Story of the Year. All of these are pretty well known bands.

  • @ashtynmyra1104 are you stupid? Please tell me who actually formed the band and they were willing to FIRE one of the main people, yeah alright. You keep thinking it was a good thing.

    Craig Owens made Chiodos, and Black Veil Brides with NOT at all, in any way good publicity for Chiodos.

  • The new dude sounds just like Craig Owens. It's not like if System of a Down kicked out Serj or anything. His voice isn't that unique. Though DRUGS and Chiodos are both awesome.

  • I THINK EMO SUCKS

  • @JoeySw337...that's nice to know and all but Chiodos isn't an emo band...Soo...lol?

  • your a skinny loser who needs a haircut

  • Chiodos without Craig is like... bread without...bread

    ♥Craig

  • Well ya know you are entitled to an oppinion.... And I agree kinda I love Craig but I don't think he "is chiodos"

  • @xXxthat1boyxXx deffinatly agree i mean there doing just fine now and there still a great band though craig coming back would be awesome

  • how can you be upset about this the new album is epic craigs vocals have started to get on my nerves alls well that ends well is a great album but bone palace ballet was kinda a let down

  • i agree with TheAlexANGST, but i have to say, i was listening to "Caves" with Brandon, i think hes a pretty good vocalist and an okay replacement.

  • Once you kick out the vocalist, gotta change the band name. The voice and lyrical artist gets kicked out, the name goes with him. Easy to replace an instrumentalist, but vocalists are too unique.

  • I like the new singer...sorry.

  • @lukeydee93 me too brah!

  • @TheTdwpforever Right?? Illuminaudio kills!

  • If Chiodos were a house, then D.R.U.G.S. blew that shit down.

  • THANK GOD! Love their music, I HATE Craig's voice.

    although that's just my opinion .

  • @SBSexpress, What is it about Craig's voice that you hate?

  • @TheAlexANGST Everything :|

    Again, it's just my opinion so no hard feelings. 

  • @SBSexpress, well, it works that way with lots of things, I may hate Onions, but I'll admit, they're healthy. His voice has amazing highs, hits some of the toughest notes, etc. He's truly talented.

  • @TheAlexANGST I'll Always hate onions.

  • @SBSexpress, Yea, me too

  • @TheAlexANGST LMFAO! a kinda argument(kinda not really) turnss into small talk about onions lmfao.

  • @TheTdwpforever, Yea, that's true rhetoric there. I distracted him from his hate for Craig, and concentrated him on his hate for Onions. Good stuff.

  • .-. i miss craig owens in chiodos

  • craig owens n jonny craig should just do a duet. fuhc everybody else hah :>

  • @0XDalexxx, Yea, that's what's so great about Isles & Glaciers. Too bad they aren't continuing that project.

  • @TheAlexANGST i know : /

  • Craig put Chiodos to shame with D.R.U.G.S

    but i do agree..i mean come on..its a lead singer..with Criag whos like a PRODIGY

  • Craig made chiodos.

  • You have a small.... TV!

  • Lmao Craig sure showed Chiodos their mistake with his new band. "D.R.U.G.S." blows Chiodos out of the water. I can see them getting extremely famous.

  • Every action has a reaction, but you know that this argument will never end so what is the point in constantly going on. People are going to really like the new stuff and people are going to like the older stuff neither side are just going to cave in and agree.

    Thats like expecting Xbox fans and Playstation fans to suddenly stop smashing each other in the face and decide to go have sex instead

  • I think you're right! Without craig owens chiodos is like nothing ?

    i used to like chiodos for its originality but now they're like any other band. Craig's voice made the band looks so special but now chiodos lost all they had! I know that alot of persons might not be agree with me but i still think what i just written.

    I really think they've done a big mistake!

  • like him in d.r.u.g.s. btw, nice hair

  • craig is the shit

    the ney guy is equally good

    new**

    dont stop listenin

    enoy bitches

  • @drinkwhiskey259 no, the new guy sucks dick, thats why chiodos is now gunna plummet into the ground and die, and will not even be remembered

  • You are all fucking stupid. Craig Owens went to Davison High School. I personally graduated with all of them. He was kicked out because he kept sleeping with underage girls and his fellow band members didn't want a bad name for their band. God. Learn your facts before you make blind accusations.

  • ErickWithNok your stupid he was kicked out becuase he was addicted to heroine. retard if you do somthing on someone get it right.

  • @killer50273 1) its spelled heroin

    2) rock bands normally dont kick their lead founding singes out for drug adiction(leads me toe belive this is an emo pop band using rock instuments

    3) when i was "addicted" it only tok a 4-week detox in a mental hospital and a councelor going to my hose once a week for 6 months to make me stop (wnet back to weed)

    so kicking someone out of a band they loved due to something that can be stopped with help makes me sad

  • @100Lavender

    hmm maybe you should learn how to spell before you tell others what to do so learn to spell to then come talk to me and im right because i have friends that know the band and my right is always right so fucking go and die.

  • Yeah its not the same without craig, so i agree with the skinny loser who needs to get a haircut! And isnt weird how their new shit like caves has only one word in the title. What happened to the two minute songs with the like ten word titles?

  • I listened to the new chiodos cd n uh......they suck now. I jus dnt get the same effect I did when listening to Craig Owens sing. I think they made a mistake on their part by letting him go but without tht happening we wouldnt have D.R.U.G.S. So I'm happy haha. But sry chiodos sucks now

  • While I agree that Craig made Chiodos what they are, this was the best decision of their lives. Craig just DOESN'T fit with the band's music anymore. Craig is more of a pop punk kind of voice. Cinematic Sunrise was more of Craig's speed, not the shit Chiodos has been writing.

  • Chiodos became wat they r today because of craig, that doesn't mean they suck just by default because craig left. chiodos is still good with brandon. craig is good w/ D.R.U.G.S. they're both good. live with it.

  • i think it is fugged up that craig is out of the band he was the voice of chiodos and my gerlfriend said that chiodos is trying to replace him but its not going to work because you cant replace Craig Owens from chiodos and that they might as well change the name of the band.

  • @mcfukit they already replaced craig owens with brandon bolmer. check ou there new album, its the best chiodos album yet.

  • i think it is fugged up that craig is out of the band he was the voice of chiodos and my gerlfriend said that chiodos is trying to replace him but its not going to work because you cant replace Craig Owens from chiodos and that they might as well change the name of the band.

  • One person can't be a band. Craig was just another front man. Unfortunately he was a narcissistic drug addict. But Chiodos is doing great, the new album is seriously my favorite album from them. I don't think I'm even going to give D.R.U.G.S. a listen lol

  • love the TBS t-shirt by the way!!!

  • Chiodos didn't kick Craig Owens out Creg Owens kicked out chiodos

  • I think its ironic that Craig was kicked out because he was doing drugs and then he started another band called D.R.U.G.S. well its Destroy Rebuild Until God Shows but you know its still ironic to me.

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  • Craig was chiodos!

  • Destroy rebuild until god shows, to be honest. I'm liking everything they have released more than anything chiodos is doing now that Craig is gone. I've even gone and pre-ordered their album with the T-shirt and poster. I made sure to do it on day one too.

    :)

  • D.R.U.G.S> Chiodos

  • Well sorry Craig Owens but new album wipes the floor the everything before this, Yes im a massive fan but WOW

  • Don't wanna offend anyone... But I think they're better with Brandon.

  • when craig mabbit left BTF they kept going and they came out stronger

  • @HideousSlinky yeah dude and not ETF sucks

  • dude i soooo agree they suck now!!!!!!!

  • i l o v e chiodos no matter what. but honestly, they do sound better with craig. bradley kinda sounds like craig in a way ? not a lot, but a little. but drugs is amazing and things do happen for a reason..

  • cinsun.com LOOK AT THIER WEBSITE!!

  • i hate that :[ but i love craigs new band D.R.U.G.S or (Destroy rebuild until god shows), very good, but still not happy about that!

  • Oh yeah and bolmer doesn't scream enuff ! -__-

  • @valerieinthe323 not nearly!!! AND he isnt as good as a screamer as craig!

  • I so agree with you. But ah shit happens.

    I met Bolmer. He's kindaf an ass ! :b but new chiodos are alright. Nuthing compared to when Craig was in it though. Can't wait till D.r.u.g.s next month !

  • new chiodos is actually amazing, he definitely ISN'T Chiodos. People idolize vocalists way too much, it's a band; more than one person is in it.

  • I like brandon, a lot :) 

  • once a band signs a contract, its no longer a group of friends playing music. Chiodos is a business and decisions need to be made for that business to succeed. get a haircut

  • Lets straiten this out. Craig is not Chiodos. Craig is not d.r.u.g,s. Craig is Craig. He was the founder of Chiodos and Cinematic sunrise. He was part in such super groups as of isles and glaciers and the sound of animals fighting. Craig is now the singer of destroy rebuild until god shows aka d.r.u.g.s. Anyone who dislikes Craig can eat my ass lint!

  • I think that if you were forced to live your music career in the shadow and under the control of a complete egotistical piece of shit, you would understand that its easy for one person, let alone 4 of the 5 members of the band to kick the asshole out. Bands like Motley Crue are the only ones who can really get away with being pieces of shit and it be awesome, but in Craig Owens case it seems that karma got the best of him.

  • I have an idea. Listen to DRUGS or listen to Chiodos. Lets all stop bitching about how Chiodos isn't Chiodos anymore because their famed frontman is gone. Brandon is great as their new frontman and their true fans are sticking by them with this change. If you're a true fan, you'd stick by them. They had their reasons, and now they've moved on. They released "Illuminadio" which was a success and DRUGS is coming out with their CD. The. World. Keeps. Turning. Fuck...heads out of asses please.

  • You skinny loser you need to get a hair cut.

  • Chiodos' new singer sucks balls I miss craig

  • listen to caves and that'll change your mind about chiodos. I love them both chiodos and d.r.u.g.s but you're a skinny loser and you need a haircut.-

  • i am defnatly a DRUGS fan now.

    

  • You are a skinny looser who needs to get a haircut. but i agree

  • @DeMcStyle Lol. and thats why they are called D.R.U.G.S

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  • Well your absolutely right. You can't spell Chiodos without Craig Owens. The new guy though, well he's good. Nothing bad to say at all. But it's not the same band at all. They should have some respect and not use the same songs, mabey even change the damn name. That'd be nice.

  • No, Sir Chinstrap/Bike helmet hair. He had a drug problem. And, Chiodos still sounds phenomenal.

  • @DeMcStyle i hate this band and hate thing like this but i was just clicking though videos and stopped and watched and saw this comment that a awful reason to kick someone of of a band oh you have probems insted of helping we will turn you to more drugs

  • lets see a new drummer and new vocals sad to say its like its another band now!

  • Honestly, I think Chiodos is better without Craig, I love Brandons voice. Everybody has their opinions though. Craig had a drug problem and fought with everybody in the band. Nobody would have cared if anybody else got kicked out... The vocals are very important, but the instruments are too. Craig isn't Chiodos. Everybody in Chiodos is Chiodos. >___>;

  • fuk no craig made chiodos who they r now!!!craig owens is the shit, chiodos suxx no without him?

  • i just recently saw D.R.U.G.S. and they kicked ass... just sayin :)

  • @metallic8 hey you! shut the fuck up and lick brandons balls! -.-

  • You guys are stupid lol Craig MADE "Chiodos" or whatever they are now. Sure they're ok I guess but not better! Lick a post-hardcore album because you don't know music at all if Brandon is better then Owens! Lol why do you think he did so many side projects? Because he was amazing so stfu with your comments on how Owens sucked because you obviously liked it when he was in it because how else would you have known about the new lead singer?! D.R.U.G.S is gonna be the best band ever with Owens and

  • @domocarcass lol d.r.u.g.s. has been around for a few months now and they are not big at all, alot of people still dont even know who d.r.u.g.s is, dont get me wrong theyre an alright band, but idk i like chiodos's new album and i think that theyre doing fine without him, but d.r.u.g.s. hasnt taken off yet and theyve been around for a while now

  • @domocarcass chiodos still the same new singer reaches the pitch as craig owen does, and also D.R.U.G.S are aweesssssssommmmmmmmmmmmeeee!!­!!!!!!

  • @domocarcass so basically you're saying you only liked chiodos because Craig Owens was in it. You're smart, clearly. y'know because the singer makes the band. not the instruments. at all. yup. not the other people.

  • BRANDON is better then craig and works the crowd amaziingly, CHIODOD BETTER THEN EVER

  • @FeathersInChains No Brandon is an asshole . i saw them in november . on top of that after the show i waited till midnight just to get an autograph from him just to give him another chance , i asked the merch table where he was and a guy just said : Hes Drunk .