The apartheid can't last forever.. We had it in Belfast with the Orange masonic lodge running things in their own bigoted way.. with the full support of british military suppression on our community, we're still working our way out of it.. We never had anything as bad as what the Palestinians have to suffer with the Israeli state tho. Been there, seen and heard all sides, solution is needed, new generation will grow into this cycle of cruel hateful nonsense. Needs to end, show love.
and now i have christians freinds that enter with me to the mosque ..No problem ...I was talking about the restrictions ..with all the military checkpoint ( living with special rules ) and in Jerusalem it's forbidden to build a house where to live not a church or a mosque ! I tried to post a video but i could not ! Enjoy and watch this and you will not regret : MARIA chapter translated ..the secret of the CORAN that the Arabic is the original language so it's a linguistic miracle ..
Concerning the descrimination ..please my brother in humanity don't tell me that Jerusalem is open to moslems and christians all over the world .. proof : my people can't visit it !! from moslems countries ..Don't relate the religion to foreign policies .. the head of the islamic empire prayed was invited to pray in the church of Jerusalem ..
People of the Statement in Coran (design the christians and the jewish ) are welcome to live with moslems until they do conspiracy .. ..like what happened in Mecca and Medina ...
.We have an entire chapter in the CORAN related to MARIA ( peace be upon her ) this chapter is the closest to my heart because it show the miracle of Jesus birth .. and especelly the linguistic style is wonderfull. i invite you to read it .. before judging .
.We have an entire chapter in the CORAN related to MARIA ( peace be upon her ) this chapter is the closest to my heart because it show the miracle of Jesus birth .. and especelly the linguistic style is wonderfull. i invite you to read it .. before judging .
.We have an entire chapter in the CORAN related to MARIA ( peace be upon her ) this chapter is the closest to my heart because it show the miracle of Jesus birth .. and especelly the linguistic style is wonderfull. i invite you to read it .. before judging .
@ Zabaloola Muslims claim Islam contains final message of God & other religions express falsehoods & lies-adherents to other religions NOT accepted as equal human beings" : I want to tell you that it's a MAJOR requirment to be moslem not Only to belief in Mahomet the last prophet ..but it's obligatory to believe in Jesus and the bible ; to believe in Moses qnd the Torah ...
@DhAoUaDiAMINE231 ISRAEL HAS: - An Arab Supreme Court judge - An Israeli Arab judge recently indicted disgraced former president of Israel of rape - Countless Arab judges in the judicial system - Arab local police chiefs - Freely elected Arab members to Israeli parliament (vilify her daily) - Arab professors & students - Arab doctors in Israeli hospitals - Freedom of speech & demonstration - An Arab deputy Foreign minister - Apartheid? - Really?...
"Brain Washing ... Go see the Occupied lands ..the Jerusalem arabs moslems and Christians descrimination , Go see the Colonialism .."(DhAo)
15 MULIM girls in Mecca burt alive at school. MUSLIM Saudi Arabia's religious police, the muttawa, would not let MUSLIM girls out of building. Since only MUSLIM women were in the school, the MUSLIM girls shed their all - concealing garments. The muttawa preferred the MUSLIM girl's death to transgression of Islamic law
"Brain Washing ... Go see the Occupied lands ..the Jerusalem arabs moslems and Christians descrimination , Go see the Colonialism .."(DhAo)
-Saudi Arabia forbids US military clergy from wearing a cross
-Saudi Arabia allows Christians foreign workers for temporary work, but does not allow them to practice their faith openly. Because of that Christians generally only worship in secret within private homes.Items & articles belonging to religions other than Islam-prohibited
"Brain Washing ... Go see the Occupied lands ..the Jerusalem arabs moslems and Christians descrimination , Go see the Colonialism .."(DhAo)
(Vatican Insider-Oct,'11) -pt-2
A week after the massacre of Christian Copts by Muslims in Egypt, the Copts are still trying to obtain some legal framework for the construction and protection of their churches.
MECA - Only sanctuary closed to members of different religions.
The Western Wall in Jerusalem, the Jews’ holiest site, can be visited by anyone — Muslims, Christians, or Buddhists.
The Basilica of Saint Peter in the Vatican, the center of the Roman Catholic religion, is open to any person that wishes to visit its splendor. Hindu and Buddhist temples welcome anyone who walks in, but not the Muslims’ main mosque.
@Zabaloola@Zabaloola " Muslims claim Islam contains final message of God & other religions express falsehoods & lies-adherents to other religions NOT accepted as equal human beings" : I want to tell you that it's a MAJOR requirment to be moslem not Only to belief in Mahomet the last prophet ..but it's obligatory to believe in Jesus and the bible ; to believe in Moses qnd the Torah ...
-Muslims claim Islam contains final message of God & other religions express falsehoods & lies-adherents to other religions NOT accepted as equal human beings
-Churches-banned in Saudi Arabia
-“Modern” Turkey-it is impossible to renovate old Christian church, let alone create one
-In Islam, adherents of different religions who refuse to accept Muhammad as their prophet have to live a life with restrictions & special rules
why dont you preface every one of your cut & pasted spammed comment by letting people know that you have been banned & removed from YT as both yaron3534 and MrShnooksie for spamming this same shit every day for years?
(John 18:36) Jesus Answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews:
"What exactly makes Israel racist" You ask ? It's the over two hundred settlements on palestinian Land. You cite a few pathetic instances where arabs who live in Israel proper are treated equally- as they should be- and you think this makes up for the continuous harassment of the Palestinians in the west bank and the theft of there land. You talk about media coverage the issue. They DEBATE the Issue in the Israeli press you moron. It's only hear in the American press that no one talks of it.
A PRAYER FOR PALESTINE FROM A JEW:Let us help them to create something extraordinary,just as we have for ourselves-it is in our best interest to do so! Let us help them to build a home they will love with all their hearts,as we love Israel with all of ours.! Let's teach each other how to win non-zero sum games. We are both great nations-let us never forget this!Let us nurture peace with both our enemies and our friends, and recognize that they are a mirror...reflecting light unto the nations
A PRAYER FOR PALESTINE FROM A JEW:Let us help them to create something extraordinary,just as we have for ourselves-it is in our best interest to do so! Let us help them to build a home they will love with all their hearts,as we love Israel with all of ours.! Let's teach each other how to win non-zero sum games. We are both great nations-let us never forget this!Let us nurture peace with both our enemies and our friends, and recognize that they are a mirror...reflecting light unto the nations
Israel keeps Palestinians Locked up, Starved, Bombed, Use WMD on Civilians like Phosphorus & Depleted Uranium, Rob them of their homes, land, money, belongings. Kill & Starve them to Death in Concentration Camp Gaza & West Bank, while Israel builds Illegal Settlements BREAKING ALL International & UN Laws, World Court & Founding Laws. Israel makes sure to carry out Palestinian Genocide/Holocaust 24/7, while putting out Endless PR Stunts, Propaganda, Lies, Disinformation & Media control
By the way, probably you don't imagine that in the last night, I managed to criticize my own country to a stupid Danish guy who was teasing about my country? Of course I told him to go back to his land, but I actually agreed that a lot of stuff is wrong in my country! BIG BIG HUGE DIFERENCE BETWEEN PORTUGAL AND ISRAEL: PORTUGUESE AKNOWLEDGE THEIR FAILURES, ISRAELIS CONSIDER THEMSELVES SO DIVINE THAT THEY CAN'T CONCEIVE THAT THEY'VE FAILURES! QUITE LIKE IN NAZI GERMANY OR IN IRAN, NO?
Did you know that Timorese people were able to participate in Indonesian political life (and many did)? Honestly I don't need to have been in Pinochet's Chile, Suharto's Indonesia, Mubarak's Egypt, Franco's Spain, SEGREGATED USA, OR PIETER BOTHA'S SOUTH AFRICA to know what was happening there! The more I see pro-Israeli establishment propaganda, the more I am anti-Israel... This kind of propaganda has actually converted me into an actual ANTI-ZIONIST!
Israel only tolerates (openly) the Arabs as a minority... In a democratic country, the majority decides, yes, but Jews in Israel make sure that they are always the majority, by excluding the Palestinians from participating in Israeli politics (well, they accept 20%, which doesn't endangeour the Jewish majority), by denying the Palestinians right of return, while encouraging Russian and Lithuanian Jews in... even if they are atheists... Are Jews a race? So, according to you Hitler was right!
"What exactly makes Israel racist?" Let me answer that to you, Mr. supremacist Jewish Cartoon (one of those that Goebbels would like a lot): Israeli constitution: Israel is a Jewish state... neither the Portuguese (at least) says that Portugal is a Portuguese state nor the Indian constitution, e.g., states that India is a Hindu state!... Why APARTHEID is actually practiced in the West Bank?... Othewise either the Jews there would have the Palestinian rights or vice-versa! Swallow that, Israelis!
Ah, there are Arabs militaries in Israel, but of course, they're a little minority; well, wow, there are both Israeli and Arab doctors and patients in Israeli hospitals!,,,, Of course there were also black South African black doctors and patients during the Apartheid... I'm 36 years old, I know how it was, don't fool me!... In every shopping mall, public park, etc there are both Arabs and Jews... what an achievement! The point is that only 20% or 25% or Arabs ruled by Israel enjoy such luxuries!
My country (Portugal) has overtaken Apartheid in 1975 through a revolution made by the PORTUGUESE PEOPLE, in SOUTH AFRICA, 70% of the WHITES (including 12% Portuguese) voted for the END OF APARTHEID!... Israel is the only country in the world where there is still Apartheid... and no, don't compare it to Malaysia, because Chinese and Indian Malaysians, though not having the political power, they have the economic!....
1: bible - nope, also germans were in poland, should poland belong to them now instead of polaks that lived there for thousands of years?
2: theres no such page
3: Its israel and USA that have vetoed every UN resolution. Peace was often breached by Israel building settlements.
4: 1948 It was after Brits left palestine as colony, what right Israel had there against palestinians who lived there for generations? 1967 - Israel ATTACKED first and occupied land to this day.
Rocket attacks in to Israel in last decade killed 30 people. Thats roughly as much as deaths by vending machines.
On the other hand Israel killed 1400 children and destroyed ~30,000 homes.
You might think but thats not apartheid in Israel, but if israel occupies territory and prevent forming a state that could safely and independently develop, it is racism in Israel.
Few months ago there was article about women reporting man to the police. She slept with him but she though he was jew..
@EmperorTerran For the past twenty years Palestinian terrorist cells have launched suicide bombers, carbombs, rockets, mortar rounds, anti-tank missiles, and sniper fire on Israeli territory and claimed the lives of THOUSANDS of innocent Israeli civilians. You are either ignorant or a liar.
When you push people to the edge they start pushing back. Its undisputed fact that israel killed far more than palestinians terrorists cells, including FAR more civilians. Also its international war crime to punish entire popularion for actions of few.
When you push people to the edge they start pushing back. Its undisputed fact that israel killed far more than palestinians terrorists cells, including FAR more civilians. Also its international war crime to punish entire popularion for actions of few.
PRAYER FOR PALESTINE FROM A JEW:Let us help them to create something extraordinary,just as we have for ourselves-it is in our best interest to do so! Let us help them to build a home they will love with all their hearts, as we love Israel with all of ours.! Let's teach each other how to win non-zero sum games. We are both great nations-let us never forget this!Let us nurture peace with both our enemies and our friends, and recognize that they are a mirror...reflecting light unto the nations.
"Like France is for the French"? You know how erroneous an analogy that is, I don't even need to point out how obvious the difference between "Israel for the Jews" and "France for the French" is.
2010 was not an opportunity for statehood. Why should the Palestinians come to the table less than two years after the ludicrous and unreasonable actions of Olmert in 2008? What reason did they have to think it would be different? Netanyahu's even more intransigent.
@BlckComb what's so erroneous? Turkey is the homeland for turks, France is the homeland 4 french, Why should Israel not be the homeland of the jewish people?
'10 was a great for starting negotiations. the fact that the right-winged Netanyahu (BTW the Likud is a more moderate right now than ever) was willing to freeze settlements for a chance and negotiations and then extend the freeze. How many times will Palestinians come and say "Give us this or that and we'll consider negotiations".
@BakaWarsh "French" isn't a religious identity, it's a nationality, defined by the country you're born in and nothing else. You can be a French Jew, Sikh, Satanist, Jedi. You can't be a Jewish Sikh, a Jewish Muslim, a Jewish Christian.
Just because Palestine was under Ottoman then British control, doesn't deny it status as a geopolitical entity; if that's the case, you should deny the statehood of Brunei and Hong Kong, as they too were not states until recently but under British control.
U R confusing citizenship with nationality. yes an asian can be french or naturalized as an american, but most countries (including most muslim states) exist because a group of people from a certain ethnic, historic, geographic, and religious background founded it. even france started as a strict catholic nation.
Obviously, the arabs inhabiting it have geographic relation the 2 land, and the jews have ancestral relation as well. its not all black&white
BTW, since 1890's when the 1st aliyahs wave occurred and until today, it was the jews that invested in the land. for centuries the arabs in it did nothing for the desolate land:. when the jews came the dried up swamps, planted fields and forests, built, farms cities, made this into one of the most prosperous places in the region, without the help of oil.
do u suppose that a century later they should just pick up and leave or give everything away?
@BakaWarsh - What a load of Zionist garbage. The native Palestinians were doing just fine before the invading white European Zionist Jews arrived and started stealing their land. The invading Jews not only stole land from the native Palestinians, they stole their water as well and have sucked Palestinian aquifers nearly dry, the dead sea is drying up and even the once pristine Jordan River is now nothing but an open sewer. Nice job
Wow. Another person who knows nothing about Middle-East History. Doing just fine? Do you even know that there was no period of time that European Jews had been migrating to the Middle-East?
When Spain conquered Grenada, the last Muslim stronghold on the Iberian Peninsula. Many of the Jews who are from there came to what you call Palestine and settled there? During each ethnic crisis made in Europe between Christians and Jews, Jews have migrated to Israel for over a thousand years?
Before the German Holocaust, there was a Russian Holocaust in the 1880's in which a third of the Jewish population was simply wiped out. Many of those Jews migrated to what you call Palestine well before their German counterparts. Before then, Napoleon in the early 19th century had encouraged French Jewish settlement into the Middle East. And before then Saladin the Kurdish Sultan of Spain and Syria had encouraged many Babylonian Jews to what you call Palestine.
So tell me exactly when was there a time that no Jew (European or not European) migrated to Palestine. Also, hate towards European Jews is still hate towards Jews. Just because they are from Europe doesn't make it okay to demonstrate such bigotry and hate towards them. They are still Jews and hating them is still hate towards all Jews. Get that through your head, you Nazi Antisemite.
If you want to raise concerns about Palestinian Arab rights. That is fine. Just don't do so in vain.
Stealing who's land? I am sorry, but you are confusing the Arab World of the Pre-Twentieth Century with the Arab World of today. Palestine was the Sanjak of Jerusalem. It wasn't even called Palestine or Filastin, except by the Westerners. It was simply a subject of the Ottomans and the Ottoman Empire was a theocratic despotate, just as the Middle-East has always been ruled since the Persian Dynasty of Cyrus the Great and had continued by Muslim Sultanates and Emirates.
The land what you call Palestine was a subject of the Ottoman Sultan and that Sultan legally granted that land (being all land South of Modern-Day Turkey) to Britain and France, who in turn created Iraq, Lebanon, Syria, and Palestine as Mandates or Colonies as it should be correctly termed.
Palestine was designed to be upheld by the Balfour Declaration, which means legally, the authority of the land past by the Ottoman Sultan to the British and from the British to the Jews.
Read the Charter of Mandate of Palestine, it has the Balfour Declaration in it. Thus legally, the Mandate of Palestine is designed to follow the Balfour Declaration, not any agreement made between Britain and the Arabs. I am sorry, but that is a problem you have with Britain. And unfortunately Britain could do whatever it wanted. It is a sovereign state. Palestine never was. It was just some territory owned by Britain and formulated by a law that legally followed the wishes of Zionists
And as noted, the authority of the Zionists to rule Israel comes from the Balfour Declaration in the Charter of the Mandate of Palestine. And the Mandate of Palestine comes from the British in their agreement with the Zionists to fund the British efforts against the Germans in WW1. British Authority comes from the Treaty of Sevres of 1922 between the Ottoman Sultan and the British Prime Minister. The Authority of the Ottomans comes from the recognition of Sharif of Mecca AND...
AND... the Mamluk Sultan of Egypt, who was the ruler of what you call Palestine before the Ottomans. The Mamluk Sultan had recognized the Ottoman Sultan as his superior and decreed the land to the Sultan of the Ottomans as well as his own servitude to be beneath the Sultan of the Ottomans. The Sharif of Mecca (a different person) had decreed the Ottoman Sultan to be the Caliph of Islam. So not only was the Ottoman Sultan the rightful ruler of Palestine, but also Islam.
The authority of the Mamluk Sultan of Egypt comes from the marriage made by the Widow of a descendent of Saladin to a Mamluk General. And the authority by the descent of Saladin comes from Saladin who was recognized by all known nations of the world as the victor of the Crusades and the Protector of Islam and the Protector of Palestine. That is where the authority of the Zionists to rule Palestine comes from, dumbass.
Lastly, this white racism you are demonstrating. I certainly hope you weren't a supporter of the Genocide in Darfur in which light skin Sudanese were killing darker skin Sudanese. Cause you know, most Arab countries supported that Genocide, especially the Palestinians. And the Israelis were one of the few countries that opposed it from the start.
@BakaWarsh Yes. Israel agreed to the current border in 1967. The UN created Israel for the Jews, it was the organization's first mandate after the Nuremberg trials. Now the UN says, and Israel agreed to, the 1967 border (at the end of the last organised war). The UN and most of the world sees Israel's occupation of Palestine as illegal. The only way for Israel to be part of the solution is for it to respect that border.
@BlckComb Hold up man, Jewishness is a national identity too - one who descends from Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. You can be a Jewish buddhist, Jewish Christian, Jewish athiest.
@zahnast If they're descended from a certain people, that's a race, not a nation. Besides, the concept of a 'nation of Israel' in ancient times is highly contentious. The closest they came was under a succession of empires (6th-2nd century BC), but it was still effectively a protectorate. Should we give every group that has a 3,000-year-old claim to a piece of land their own country there?
I agree though, "Jewish" blurs boundaries. It is my belief that it is primarily a religious definition.
@BlckComb they're also a nation, which by definition is a people who share a common language, ethnicity, descent and history. There's no question over Israel's right to the land because it's already been given - you can't go back on a nearly 100 year old mandate. Obviously the League of Nations thought Israel had a right to the land of Palestine. The Arabs had their chance to have a piece of Israel's land when it was offered in 47 - they rejected the offer.
Protesting against Israel is cool? Tell that to Emily Henochowicz, a Jewish-American citizen who was hit in the face by an IDF gas canister fired, against international law, directly into a crowd, breaking her skull and losing her an eye.
Tell that to Rachel Corrie, run over by an IDF bulldozer as she tried to prevent the destruction of Palestinian homes on Palestinian land.
@BlckComb Emily Henochowiz was violently protesting within a mob of people throwing rocks.
Rachel Corrie is a stupid idiot how both stood before a gigantic bulldozer while it is running amock, and when she was run over it was because she was in the bulldozer's blind spot. more over Rachel Corrie was a hamas sympathizer, having been photographed several times burning both American and Israeli flags, and calling for the downfall of the "Western Devil" and the "Jewish Devil"... a real angel
@BlckComb also, i suppose that the entire IDF and jewish people are 2 blame for mishaps of single soldiers. Gaza is a warzone, not because israel wishes it but because Hamas uses the population as a shield 4 it's terrorists activities,by placing HQs & Caches in hospitals or near schools. in a warzone sh*t happens, mistakes R made. Almost every military in the allies (US, UK, France etc) makes mistakes that cost civi lives... are they evil? Hamas moto: we love death as much as the jews love life.
@BakaWarsh I googled the lynching. Nasty business. But comparing atrocities won't get us anywhere, all it proves is that the situation is divisive and hate-fueled. Try the Sabra and Shatila massacre, for which the IDF provided transportation. Read the Palestine Papers. They demonstrate that Israeli stonewalling in secret negotiations leads to lack of agreement, and that Palestine is willing to make vast concessions - that Israel will still not accept. Israel, does not, want peace.
@BlckComb "that Israel will still not accept. Israel, does not, want peace."
Israel has publicly accepted & supported a palestinian state alongside it's own. However no palestinian body is willing to publicy accept the the existence of an Israeli state, that is the main issue here.
Israel made concessions for peace with Egypt, and need i remind you that just for the U.N resolution the jewish leaders conceded the land promised to them on the eastern bank of the jordan river by the british mandate
@BlckComb just who do you think controls the newpapres in Gaza and the West Bank? it's hamas and fatah respectively.
You want to talk stonewalling? Israel is ready to give 1000+ palestinian terrorists just for Gilaad Shalit. and he's a simple soldier from the armor regiment. why does the palestinians stonewall that agreement? why does Israel pay and funds medicare and family visits for known terrorist prisoners while hamas refuses to allow Shalit a visit from the red cross.
@BakaWarsh I definitely do want to talk stonewalling. How about in 2008, when Mahmoud Abbas gave the unprecedented offer of the Israeli annexation of all illegal settlements in East Jerusalem - Olmert demanded twice as much land as Abbas' unrivalled offer, and wouldn't even let him confer with the Palestinian Authority on the subject. Tzipi Livni explicitly stated that it had been the policy of previous Israeli governments to prevent a Palestinian state by forcible expropriation of land.
@BlckComb 8 times the palestinian side had an opportunity to create a state of their own:
if the basques, Catalonians, Quebecois, Kurds and more had 1 opportunity with the conditions that were offered to the palestinians, they would have an independent state.
1937: Lord Phil committee recommendations. they did not agree.
1947: U.N. Resolution 181, they did not agree. they could have had a free country back then. no refugees.
1949: Anglo-American (with jordan and egypt) offers. Rejected.
@BlckComb 1967: palestinians accept Hartum committee: No to peace with israel, No recognition of israel's right for existence, no negotiations with israel. The 6 day war would not have happened,Palestine in 67 boarders would be a reality by now.
1988: 104 countries decided to renounce terrorism & recognize israel. Palestine did not come forward and negotiate with the world & israel.
1993-4: Oslo and Cairo accords. Israel delivered Palestinians did not.
@BlckComb The majority of israelis right now are pro 2-states. but we don't want a neighbouring failed state. Palestinian territories right now has the infrastructure for a self maintained state & can probably procure large donations. But it also has Hamas and thousands of uncontrolled guerrilla cells. It is cut off into 2 parts. the palestinians claims parts of jordan by irredentism.
More over israel welcomes every ethnicity but prefer to be a state for the jews, like france is for french.
@BakaWarsh As for 1988, the 80s were dominated by the Jerusalem Law, declared void by the UN Security Council 14 votes to 0.... what reason did the Palestinians have to come to the table when Israel so clearly and blatantly disregarded not only territorial boundaries, but international law?
Netanyahu's "own intepretation" of the Oslo Accords, utilising ambiguity in boundary definitions to continue settlement-building. Please, your view is so simplistic.
@BlckComb oh please. If anyone on the palestinian side wanted true peace, some leader by now would have publicly stated that israel has a right to exist.
I don't give a damn about Netanyahu's views. Rabin did his part of the Oslo accord, and so did barak until the Intifadah.
Israel gave guns (for "police" force) & funds, settlement freezes in exchange for a chance at negotiations. those were turned against us. Israel unilaterally left gaza as a gesture only to have rockets fired at closer range
@BakaWarsh Resolution 181: If the French discovered that a political-religious identity scattered throughout the world laid claim to their land, and that a UN resolution was drawing up plans for half their land to be given to this state, and this partition plan was drawn up by the people wanting to claim half the French land and turn it into a religiously uniform state (Ben Gurion), eventually implementing their will by force - do you think the French would happily go along with this plan?
@BlckComb In no point in time did the land belong to a Palestinian entity.
It went from belonging to the ottomans to the brits, and was then to be divided. Palestinians BECAME that after the israeli state was made. Before, they were jordanians, syrians who spread to that place.
Force? I don't remember 6 Jewish armies attacking a small arab minority and losing badly (1948,67,73). They attacked, They Lost, Some of them fled, Some others banished. But so were thousands of jews in arab countries.
@BlckComb FYI both Hamas & Fatah kill more palestinians each year than the entire IDF. the only reason they cry out is 'cause it appears better when the IDF injures civs and they seem more humane. Arab women get more Rights in Israel (equal to those of the jews) rather than Gaza (where they can't vote, work, dress, or marry how they want). Same goes for Gays.
Look at the Syrian, Libyan, Egyptian Leaders. What makes you think Hamas and Fatah are any different
@BakaWarsh so throwing rocks gives the IDF the right to break international law? I suppose you therefore agree with the illegal repression of Bashar Al-Assad's Syrian regime then... after all, you've just said that brutal illegal crowd control is OK if the protest is violent.
Rachel Corrie was looking directly into the cabin of the bulldozer as it ran over her. There is no debate here, except if you are willing to believe the Israeli propaganda machine against the words of multiple eyewitnesses.
If there is an Israel apartheid week then there should be an Arab apartheid year. In all Arab and Moslem countries minorites especially christians as there are only a handful of Jews left are murdered, raped, tortured and imprisoned. Churches are burnt, bibles are desecrated and priests and nuns are raped and killed. That is what happens when you worship satan and its prophet.
In Egypt you cannot be a member of the government if you are Christian.
In Syria you must be Alaouite (which is actually a minority group) to be in any public office.
In Jordan the Bedouin minority rules. When the Jordan's Palestinian 's (the majority in that land) tried to rebel at the 70's they were crashed and butchered by the Jordanian army (an event they call black September).
In Iran and Saudi Arebia you must be Muslim (only Shiite /only Sunni) to have any rights at all. Apartheid anyone?
The so-called ‘Palestinian autonomous areas’ are bantustans. These are restricted entities within the power structure of the Israeli apartheid system.
Nelson Mandela
Henry Siegman, former director of American Jewish Congress (and a recipient of Bronze Star and Purple Heart), has stated that Israel has "crossed the threshold from "the only Democracy in the Middle East" to the only Apartheid regime in the Western world
@saadasim, that quote is not from Nelson Mandela. It's from Arjan El Fassed, who wrote a fake letter from Nelson Mandela to Thomas Friedman.
Fassed soon admitted that he made the whole thing up. Nevertheless the "Mandela letter" keeps traveling. Just like the Protocols of the Elders of Zion.
@Kurtlane Gandhi, Desmond Tutu, and even Einstein criticized the way that Israel was created. Yes, Arab dictatorships are bad but they should not be an example.
@Kurtlane Yes, I know you are not enamored of Gandhi, Tutu, Mandela and other peace loving people. You probably have a picture of Ariel Sharon or Gengis Khan on your wall.
Here's a fact for you:
Israel broke worldwide embargo to give arms to Apartheid South Africa but kills people who want to give humanitarian aid to Palestinians.
"This will be a war of extermination and a momentous massacre which will be spoken of like the Mongolian massacres and the Crusades." - Arab League Secretary General Azzam Pasha, May 15, 1948, the day five Arab armies invaded the new state of Israel, one day after the nation declared its independence
Lovely quote, isn't it? Here is another one from Azzam Pasha:
""[There are] three characteristics of the future war; the belief in glorious death as a road to paradise, the opportunities of lust and the [Arab] love of slaughter for its own sake"
"The Arab nations should sacrifice up to 10 million of their 50 million people, if necessary, to wipe out Israel ... Israel to the Arab world is like a cancer to the human body, and the only way of remedy is to uproot it, just like a cancer." --Saud ibn Abdul Aziz, King of Saudi Arabia, Associated Press, Jan. 9, 1954
"I announce from here, on behalf of the United Arab Republic people, that this time we will exterminate Israel." --President Gamal Abdel Nasser of Egypt, speech in Alexandria, July 26, 1959
"We shall never call for nor accept peace. We shall only accept war. We have resolved to drench this land with your (Israel's) blood, to oust you as aggressor, to throw you into the sea." --Hafez Assad, then-Syrian Defense Minister, May 24, 1966, who later became Syria's president.
"The existence of Israel is an error which must be rectified. This is our opportunity to wipe out the ignominy which has been with us since 1948. Our goal is clear -- to wipe Israel off the map." --President Abdel Rahman Aref of Iraq, May 31, 1967
"All countries should wage war against the Zionists, who are there to destroy all human organizations and to destroy civilization and the work which good people are trying to do."
--King Faisal of Saudi Arabia, in a speech in Uganda, Beirut Daily Star, Nov. 17, 1972
"We should throw in their faces the flesh of their sons, minced and grilled." - Dr. Ayman al-Zawahiri, Jihad Bulletin, Dec. 1997
"Let's get this bit out of the way. We're not looking for concessions from the West. We want your concept of civilization to be over. We want to destroy it, and replace it with ours." - Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah
"Let the entire world hear me. Our hostility to the Great Satan [America] is absolute... Regardless of how the world has changed after 11 September, 'Death to America' will remain our reverberating and powerful slogan: 'Death to America!'" - Hasan Nasrallah, speech broadcast Sep. 27, 2002 on Al-Manar
"To kill and be killed are the supreme duties of Muslims."
"We do not worship Iran. We worship Allah. For patriotism is another name for paganism. I say let this land [Iran] burn. I say let this land go up in smoke, provided Islam emerges triumphant in the rest of the world." - Ayatollah Khomeini
"My message to the loathed Jews... We are a nation that drinks blood, and we know that there is no blood better than the blood of Jews. We will not leave you alone until we have quenched our thirst with your blood, and our children's thirst with your blood. We will not leave until you leave the Muslim countries." - From a suicide video of Hamas suicide terrorist went to the Karni Crossing and killed an Israeli soldier on December 7, 2004. The video appeared on Hamas website in February 2006
"with the Jews, nothing works but force. Memorize the following parable, just like I learned it from others: 'Kiss the head of a Jew, and he will deceive you - deceive him, and he will kiss your head.' The Jew is treacherous, disloyal, deceitful, and belligerent by nature. Nothing works with him but force. […] They have formed clandestine groups in Islamic societies, as well as internationally" - Saudi cleric Khaled Al Khlewi, spoeaking to children. Aired on Al-Jazeera TV on January 11, 2009
"The process of settlement [of Muslim Brotherhood in the U.S.] is a ‘Civilization-Jihadist Process’ with all the word means. The Ikhwan must understand that their work in America is a kind of grand Jihad in eliminating and destroying the Western civilization from within and 'sabotaging' its miserable house by their hands and the hands of the believers so that it is eliminated and God’s religion is made victorious over all other religions. ...
"It is a Muslim’s destiny to perform Jihad and work wherever he is and wherever he lands until the final hour comes" - An Explanatory Memorandum; On the General Strategic Goal for the Group in North America by Dr Mohamed Akram Adlouni, formerly top Muslim Brotherhood agent in the U.S., currently the head of the International al-Quds Foundation and the al-Quds International Institute in Lebanon
"From here, Allah the almighty has called upon us not to ally with the Jews or the Christians, not to like them, not to become their partners, not to support them, and not to sign agreements with them. And he who does that, is one of them, as Allah said: 'O you who believe, do not take the Jews and the Christians as allies, for they are allies of one another. Who from among you takes them as allies will indeed be one of them...
"Whether Likud or Labor, Jews are Jews. They do not have any moderates or any advocates of peace. They are all liars... O brother believers, the criminals, the terrorists - are the Jews, who have butchered our children, orphaned them, widowed our women and desecrated our holy places and sacred sites. They are the terrorists. They are the ones who must be butchered and killed, as Allah the almighty said ...
"O brothers in belief, the beautiful bride has a costly price and dowry... Our bride is paradise, O brothers in belief... The cost and the dowry of this bride, the dowry of this paradise, is that we fight in the path of Allah, and kill and be killed.
"[The Jews] must be butchered and killed. Have no mercy on the Jews no matter where they are, in any country. Fight them, wherever you are. Wherever you meet them, kill them. Wherever you are, kill those Jews and those Americans who are like them - and those who stand by them" - Gaza preacher, Dr. Sheik Ahmad Abu Halabiya, from a Friday sermon in the Zayed bin Sultan Aal Nahyan mosque in Gaza. Broadcast live on official Palestinian Authority television October 13, 2000
"[Jews] also used this wealth to stir revolutions in different parts of the world ... With their money they created secret organizations that spread around the world in order to destroy societies and carry out Zionist interests. Such organizations are the Freemasons, Rotary cluns, Lions clubs, B'nei Briths and the like. All of them are destructive espionage organizations" - From the Article 22 of the Charter of Hamas. Written by Sheikh Ahmed Yassin
"Killing for the sake of God wipes out the sins. Go and wipe out your sins as martyrs." - Nizar Rayyan. Hamas leader. To a rally in Jabaliyah refugee camp, Feb 9, 2002)
"You see these people [the Jews] all the time everywhere, disseminating corruption, heresy, homosexuality, alcoholism and drugs. They do this to impose their hegemony and colonialism on the world. Now, they are riding on the back of the world powers." - Sheikh Muhammad Al-Gamei'a, Former imam of New York's Islamic Cultural Center, the largest mosque in the U.S., speaking immediately upon arrival to Egypt after September 11th
"The U.S. took over the state of Ottawa to conduct experiments there with deadly biological weapons... Also, Jewish tourists infected with AIDS are traveling around Asian and African countries with the aim of spreading the disease... Israel continues to use germ warfare to destroy the Palestinian people on its occupied land" - Dr. Husniya Hassan Moussa, lecturer at the National Research Center in an article in Al-'Ilm (Egypt), November 2001
"Woe upon whomever will not raid, and not tell tales of raids. Woe upon whomever does not give his children Jihad education... Blessed is he who fights Jihad in the name of Allah, blessed is he who goes on a raid in the name of Allah, blessed is he who dons a vest of explosives on himself or his children and goes in to the depth of the Jews in their sinful disco" - Preacher Muhammad Ibrahim Maadi in Friday's sermon broadcast live on Palestinian Authority TV after terrorist attack in Tel Aviv
"If it was the Holy Spirit that placed a child in [virgin] Mary´s womb. Perhaps that same holy spirit placed the bomb in the heart of Wafa, and enveloped her pure body with dynamite. From Mary´s womb issued a child who eliminated oppression, while the body of Wafa became shrapnel that eliminated despair and aroused hope." - Head of the Department of Psychiatry at Cairo´s 'Ein Shams University. Hadith al-Medina, Egyptian media outlet, as reported in the London-based al-Quds al-'Arabi
"The covetous, racist, and hated Jew Shylock, who cut the flesh from Antonio's chest with the knife of hatred, invades you with his money, his modern airplanes, his missiles, and his nuclear bombs." - Ali 'Aqleh 'Ursan, chairman of the Arab Writers' Association
I can go on and on with quotes, all equally powerful in their filth and evil.
The first one is about the 9-11 bombers, the day of the attack:
"The suicide bombers of today are the noble successors of ... the Lebanese suicide bombers, who taught the US Marines a tough lesson in [Beirut]. These suicide bombers are the salt of the earth, the engines of history.... They are the most honorable among us."
Al-Hayat Al-Jadida, official PA daily. , September 11, 2001
The second is from Hasan al-Banna, founder of Muslim Brotherhood, welcoming Hajj Amin al-Husseini to Egypt in 1946:
""Muslim Brotherhood and all Arabs request the Arab League to declare that the Mufti is welcome to stay in any Arab country. What a hero! What a miracle of a man! Yes, this hero who challenged empire and fought Zionism with the help of Hitler and Germany. Germany and Hitler age gone, but Amin al-Husseini will continue the struggle.
"God entrusted him with a mission, and he must succeed. Amen, march on, God is with you, we are behind you, we are willing to sacrifice our necks for the cause, to death forward march."
Hasan al-Banna, founder of Muslim Brotherhood, welcoming Hajj Amin al-Husseini. 1946
The third is from Hajj Amin al-Husseini himself, broadcasting from Berlin in 1942:
"We think it best if the life of the Egyptian nation is to be saved if the Egyptians rise as one man to kill the Jews before they have a chance of betraying the Egyptian people. It is the duty of the Egyptians to annihilate the Jews and destroy their property. Arabs of Syria, Iraq and Palestine, what are you waiting for? The Jews are planning to violate your women, kill your children, destroy you."
- From broadcast "Kill the Jews before they kill you". "Voice of free Arabism." Headed by Hajj Amin al-Husseini German radio broadcast in Arabic. July 7, 1942.
Finally, from Heinrich Himmler to Hajj Amin al-Husseini:
"To the Grand Mufti [Hajj Amin al-Husseini]: The National Socialist movement of Greater Germany has, since its inception, inscribed upon its flag the fight against the world Jewry.
"It has therefore followed with particular sympathy the struggle of freedom-loving Arabs, especially in Palestine, against Jewish interlopers. In the recognition of this enemy and of the common struggle against it lies the firm foundation of the natural alliance that exists between the National Socialist Greater Germany and the freedom-loving Muslims of the whole world.
"In this spirit I am sending you on the anniversary of the infamous Balfour declaration my hearty greetings and wishes for the successful pursuit of your struggle until the final victory."
@saadasim, Israel is the only one who wants to live in peace. Everyone else over there wants war.
I've been there. I've seen it with my own eyes. Israel wants peace to increadible, illogical, insane lengths. Even when it's quite obvious that its very wanting of peace will bring war. In the name of peace, Jews are massively booted out of their own homes, discriminated against, given second places after Arabs.
I've seen it with my own eyes, heard it with my own ears.
Israeli peace marchers march alongside Arabs chanting "Kutile al-Yahood" (kill the Jews) and pretend they don't notice.
Israeli diplomats grovel, beg, against all protocol get treated like slaves in old days, pretend they don't notice the barrage of insults that follows them. The government bends over backwards till it does backflips and turns the other cheek till it spins to accommodate Arab demands.
I know how much the all-around image of Israel as the war monger and neighborhood bully is false and wrong and contrary to reality, just as it is so close to traditional, eternal "blame the Jews" of Jew hatred.
What can I say? Perhaps if something is so close to Jew hatred as to be indistinguishable, it is Jew hatred.
All these sources have no weight at all with me. Finkelstein in particular.
The Middle-Eastern cease fire is when Jews cease and Arabs fire.
Here is how it works:
Cease fire is negotiated with one group.
Shortly after the cease fire takes effect, some other group (Fatah, Hamas, Islamic Jihad or other) fires a rocket. The international community calls it a minor violation, not breakage.
Sometimes it's the subgroup of the one with whom cease fire deal was made. Sometimes it's not even a subgroup, just the same group covering up under another name.
Anyway, the international community calls it a minor violation, not breakage.
Seeing that there is not retaliation, the violatior and the others, including the ones with whom the deal was made, start launching rockets. They begin to compete as to who can launch more rockets and kill more Jews.
The object of their competition are the Palestinians at large: whoever launches and kills mjore is the hero.
Anyway, even as the number of rockets soars into thousands, the international community continues calling it a bunch of minor violations, not breakage, and warning Israel it'll be damned if it responds.
Eventually, Israel does respond, and everyone and your mother-in-law dumps on Israel for being this horrible breaker of cease fires.
@Kurtlane There were no rockets fired while Israel was constantly firing into Gaza.. If all these international sources (both Jewish and non-Jewish) are false then you are welcome to come up with your own independent source if you can do so. Since you have only made conjectures without giving attribution or date, I will have to discount your thinking.
@saadasim, just compare Israel with its neighbors.
63 years ago, Israel was nothing. Now - look at it. 1st world country, with all sorts of leading edge technologies. Do you think it would be possible if Israelis really concentrated on hating their enemies?
And the neighbors, close or distant. They were better off than Israelis 63 years ago. And where are they now? Do you think they would be so far down if they hadn't concentrated concentrated on hating their enemies (whom they appointed as enemies, but who had no intention to be their enemies) as much as they had?
From "Devil's Dictionary" by Ambrose Bierce: PEACE, n. In international affairs, a period of cheating between two periods of fighting. O, what's the loud uproar assailing Mine ears without cease? 'Tis the voice of the hopeful, all-hailing The horrors of peace. Ah, Peace Universal; they woo it — Would marry it, too. If only they knew how to do it 'Twere easy to do. (cont.)
If you are a student of peace, you must begin with the following quote:
"Historians will one day record that never were the peaceful proposals of one man met with more hatred than mine. When Germany became the example to the world of the peaceful solution of social problems and economic difficulties, the hatred of the Bolsheviks and capitalists, the exploiters of nations, was turned against her. Only then did I turn to create the new German Wehrmacht."
Every student of peace must begin with this quote.
Sure, everybody is for peace. Hitler too was for peace, just on his conditions.
Why would you want to be in peace business? For those who have a tiniest drop of honesty in them, it's the saddest business in the world. Nothing is more hopeless.
You've already started badly. Accusing Israel of not wanting peace now is like accusing a rabbit of being predatory exactly at the moment that rabbit is surrounded by wolves ready to pounce on him.
Honestly, I try not even to think about peace. Thinking about it makes me think of suicide.
I'll send you a short article about the conquest of Czechoslovakia in 1939. If you substitute Czechoslovakia with Israel, Palestinians with Sudetan Germans, Germany with Iran, England and France with America and Europe and Soviet Union with Russia, you will see history repeating itself.
There are a few differences too, but they are not in favor of peace, or of Israel.
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Lagolop 4 days ago
The apartheid can't last forever.. We had it in Belfast with the Orange masonic lodge running things in their own bigoted way.. with the full support of british military suppression on our community, we're still working our way out of it.. We never had anything as bad as what the Palestinians have to suffer with the Israeli state tho. Been there, seen and heard all sides, solution is needed, new generation will grow into this cycle of cruel hateful nonsense. Needs to end, show love.
djsnuffone 1 week ago
Israel is a racist state , period.
A Jewish democracy is a oxymoron.
Another bullshit vid from Honest Reporting
chugalongway01 1 week ago
@76suomalainen
Israel is to Judaism what Italy is to Roman Catholicsm
SayNoToTheIlluminati 2 weeks ago
and now i have christians freinds that enter with me to the mosque ..No problem ...I was talking about the restrictions ..with all the military checkpoint ( living with special rules ) and in Jerusalem it's forbidden to build a house where to live not a church or a mosque ! I tried to post a video but i could not ! Enjoy and watch this and you will not regret : MARIA chapter translated ..the secret of the CORAN that the Arabic is the original language so it's a linguistic miracle ..
DhAoUaDiAMINE231 2 weeks ago
Concerning the descrimination ..please my brother in humanity don't tell me that Jerusalem is open to moslems and christians all over the world .. proof : my people can't visit it !! from moslems countries ..Don't relate the religion to foreign policies .. the head of the islamic empire prayed was invited to pray in the church of Jerusalem ..
DhAoUaDiAMINE231 2 weeks ago
People of the Statement in Coran (design the christians and the jewish ) are welcome to live with moslems until they do conspiracy .. ..like what happened in Mecca and Medina ...
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.We have an entire chapter in the CORAN related to MARIA ( peace be upon her ) this chapter is the closest to my heart because it show the miracle of Jesus birth .. and especelly the linguistic style is wonderfull. i invite you to read it .. before judging .
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.We have an entire chapter in the CORAN related to MARIA ( peace be upon her ) this chapter is the closest to my heart because it show the miracle of Jesus birth .. and especelly the linguistic style is wonderfull. i invite you to read it .. before judging .
DhAoUaDiAMINE231 2 weeks ago
.We have an entire chapter in the CORAN related to MARIA ( peace be upon her ) this chapter is the closest to my heart because it show the miracle of Jesus birth .. and especelly the linguistic style is wonderfull. i invite you to read it .. before judging .
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@ Zabaloola Muslims claim Islam contains final message of God & other religions express falsehoods & lies-adherents to other religions NOT accepted as equal human beings" : I want to tell you that it's a MAJOR requirment to be moslem not Only to belief in Mahomet the last prophet ..but it's obligatory to believe in Jesus and the bible ; to believe in Moses qnd the Torah ...
DhAoUaDiAMINE231 2 weeks ago
@76suomalainen
... good job being an idiot bro good fucking job
your just like this wierd brown bear there
WarDogTheAwesome 2 weeks ago
@76suomalainen but the over a dozen muslim states are not?
zitalee2 2 weeks ago
Brain Washing ... Go see the Occupied lands ..the Jerusalem arabs moslems and Christians descrimination , Go see the Colonialism ..
DhAoUaDiAMINE231 3 weeks ago
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"Brain Washing ... Go see the Occupied lands ..the Jerusalem arabs moslems and Christians descrimination , Go see the Colonialism .."(DhAo)
-Europe bans building tall mosques - Israel does not
-Europe forbids Muslim women from wearing face covering veils - Israel does not
-If ignorance is bliss than you are one happy (albeit brainwashed) dude
Zabaloola 2 weeks ago
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"Brain Washing ... Go see the Occupied lands ..the Jerusalem arabs moslems and Christians descrimination , Go see the Colonialism .."(DhAo)
EGYPT BOMB kILLS 17 COPTIC CHRISTIANS AT CHURCH
-17 killed at a CHURCH in Egypt in an explosion by MUSLIM suicide bomber
-43 wounded. It happened as worshippers left a new year's service at church after midnight
-Coptic Christians & Muslims clashed after the attack
Christians in the Coptic Orthodox Church - 10% of Egypt's population
Zabaloola 2 weeks ago
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"Brain Washing ... Go see the Occupied lands ..the Jerusalem arabs moslems and Christians descrimination , Go see the Colonialism .."(DhAo)
-UN refugee agency-thousands of Iraqi Christians fleeing
-Seeking refuge in Kurdish-controlled region
-UN-1,000 families left Baghdad & Mosul since attacks on churches
-Flight of Christians became "a slow but steady exodus"
-UN-dismayed that European governments deport failed Iraqi asylum seekers to unsafe areas
Zabaloola 2 weeks ago
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"Brain Washing ... Go see the Occupied lands ..the Jerusalem arabs moslems and Christians descrimination , Go see the Colonialism .."(DhAo)
(BBC)
MUSLIM Nigeria: CHRISTIAN flee MUSLIM sectarian attacks
Killing pattern-"SYSTEMIC ETHNIC & RELIGIOUS CLEANSING OF CHRISTIANS.
500 CHRISTIANS killed by MUSLIMS last year.
MUSLIM Boko Haram carried attacks
Warning CHRISTIANS to leave MUSLIM areas
Zabaloola 2 weeks ago
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"Brain Washing ... Go see the Occupied lands ..the Jerusalem arabs moslems and Christians descrimination , Go see the Colonialism .."(DhAo)
MUSLIM terror Iin MUSLIM NIGERIA-pt-2
'09:Hundreds of CHRISTIANS killed
Dec '10:80 CHRISTIANS killed on New Year's Eve
'10-'11:Dozens CHRISTIANS killed
Nov '11:Bomb attacks against CHRISTIANS
Dec '11:Attack at CHURCH on Christmas kill dozens CHRISTIANS
Haram wants ISLAMIC state
Zabaloola 2 weeks ago
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"Brain Washing ... Go see the Occupied lands ..the Jerusalem arabs moslems and Christians descrimination , Go see the Colonialism .."(DhAo)
(Daily Mail-Sept '11)
Christian pastor faces execution in Iran for refusing to renounce his faith
The father of 2 given 3 days to recant before being hanged
Pastor Youcef Nadarkhani, 34, of the Church of Iran, faces hanging after refusing court order to renounce his Christian faith.
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"Brain Washing ... Go see the Occupied lands ..the Jerusalem arabs moslems and Christians descrimination , Go see the Colonialism .."(DhAo)
Pakistan has blasphemy laws, under which whoever offends Islam is sentenced to death
From 1948 to 2010: 15 million Muslims killed by Muslims.
(The Daily Mail Dec, 2010)
Mohammed has become the most popular name for newborn boys in Britain.
Zabaloola 2 weeks ago
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"Brain Washing ... Go see the Occupied lands ..the Jerusalem arabs moslems and Christians descrimination , Go see the Colonialism .."(DhAo)
15 MULIM girls in Mecca burt alive at school. MUSLIM Saudi Arabia's religious police, the muttawa, would not let MUSLIM girls out of building. Since only MUSLIM women were in the school, the MUSLIM girls shed their all - concealing garments. The muttawa preferred the MUSLIM girl's death to transgression of Islamic law
Zabaloola 2 weeks ago
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"Brain Washing ... Go see the Occupied lands ..the Jerusalem arabs moslems and Christians descrimination , Go see the Colonialism .."(DhAo)
-Saudi Arabia forbids US military clergy from wearing a cross
-Saudi Arabia allows Christians foreign workers for temporary work, but does not allow them to practice their faith openly. Because of that Christians generally only worship in secret within private homes.Items & articles belonging to religions other than Islam-prohibited
Zabaloola 2 weeks ago
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"Brain Washing ... Go see the Occupied lands ..the Jerusalem arabs moslems and Christians descrimination , Go see the Colonialism .."(DhAo)
(Vatican Insider-Oct,'11)
A mosque can be built anywhere in Egypt, while a Christian church needs Presidential permit.
We are not asking for equal rights; only hope to have fair rules to build or repair churches”
Better separate rules for mosques from those for churches, in order to avoid making the situation even more unstable
Zabaloola 2 weeks ago
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"Brain Washing ... Go see the Occupied lands ..the Jerusalem arabs moslems and Christians descrimination , Go see the Colonialism .."(DhAo)
(Vatican Insider-Oct,'11) -pt-2
A week after the massacre of Christian Copts by Muslims in Egypt, the Copts are still trying to obtain some legal framework for the construction and protection of their churches.
Zabaloola 2 weeks ago
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"Jerusalem moslems & Christians descrimination"(DhAo)
MECA - Only sanctuary closed to members of different religions.
The Western Wall in Jerusalem, the Jews’ holiest site, can be visited by anyone — Muslims, Christians, or Buddhists.
The Basilica of Saint Peter in the Vatican, the center of the Roman Catholic religion, is open to any person that wishes to visit its splendor. Hindu and Buddhist temples welcome anyone who walks in, but not the Muslims’ main mosque.
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@Zabaloola @Zabaloola " Muslims claim Islam contains final message of God & other religions express falsehoods & lies-adherents to other religions NOT accepted as equal human beings" : I want to tell you that it's a MAJOR requirment to be moslem not Only to belief in Mahomet the last prophet ..but it's obligatory to believe in Jesus and the bible ; to believe in Moses qnd the Torah ...
DhAoUaDiAMINE231 2 weeks ago
@DhAoUaDiAMINE231
"Jerusalem moslems & Christians descriminated"(DhAo)
-Muslims claim Islam contains final message of God & other religions express falsehoods & lies-adherents to other religions NOT accepted as equal human beings
-Churches-banned in Saudi Arabia
-“Modern” Turkey-it is impossible to renovate old Christian church, let alone create one
-In Islam, adherents of different religions who refuse to accept Muhammad as their prophet have to live a life with restrictions & special rules
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@Zabaloola
'churches banned in syria?
Why are you ignoring your ban yaron?
why dont you preface every one of your cut & pasted spammed comment by letting people know that you have been banned & removed from YT as both yaron3534 and MrShnooksie for spamming this same shit every day for years?
br0073012 2 weeks ago
Why did the Jews kill Jesus?
(John 18:36) Jesus Answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews:
senyah5 3 weeks ago
Israhell is a Rogue State, built on stolen Palestinian land
senyah5 3 weeks ago
@76suomalainen and it isn't racist like most muslim-states!!
apselmanny 1 month ago
Did you know that sionist jew kill peaple(especialy kids) to sent their organs to Israel? Write on youtube:
Jewish Corruption Scandal Mafia: Jews killing US´s Kids to send their Organs back to Israel
Eight Israelis charged with trafficking human organs
SCANDAL: Did Israelis kill Palestinians for organs?
accusing Israel of organ harvesting in Haiti
Israel Admits Illegal Organ Harvesting.
AndreiMoraru1985 1 month ago
"Protesting against Israel is cool" :D Hahaha
DoodiePunk 1 month ago
"What exactly makes Israel racist" You ask ? It's the over two hundred settlements on palestinian Land. You cite a few pathetic instances where arabs who live in Israel proper are treated equally- as they should be- and you think this makes up for the continuous harassment of the Palestinians in the west bank and the theft of there land. You talk about media coverage the issue. They DEBATE the Issue in the Israeli press you moron. It's only hear in the American press that no one talks of it.
lsmith869 1 month ago
@lsmith869 Thank you.
Tressiensia 4 weeks ago
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A PRAYER FOR PALESTINE FROM A JEW:Let us help them to create something extraordinary,just as we have for ourselves-it is in our best interest to do so! Let us help them to build a home they will love with all their hearts,as we love Israel with all of ours.! Let's teach each other how to win non-zero sum games. We are both great nations-let us never forget this!Let us nurture peace with both our enemies and our friends, and recognize that they are a mirror...reflecting light unto the nations
tikkunolam613 1 month ago
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A PRAYER FOR PALESTINE FROM A JEW:Let us help them to create something extraordinary,just as we have for ourselves-it is in our best interest to do so! Let us help them to build a home they will love with all their hearts,as we love Israel with all of ours.! Let's teach each other how to win non-zero sum games. We are both great nations-let us never forget this!Let us nurture peace with both our enemies and our friends, and recognize that they are a mirror...reflecting light unto the nations
tikkunolam613 1 month ago
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SAVE THEM.
Israel keeps Palestinians Locked up, Starved, Bombed, Use WMD on Civilians like Phosphorus & Depleted Uranium, Rob them of their homes, land, money, belongings. Kill & Starve them to Death in Concentration Camp Gaza & West Bank, while Israel builds Illegal Settlements BREAKING ALL International & UN Laws, World Court & Founding Laws. Israel makes sure to carry out Palestinian Genocide/Holocaust 24/7, while putting out Endless PR Stunts, Propaganda, Lies, Disinformation & Media control
halcyon0830 2 months ago in playlist Uploaded videos
this video is perfect
toSTONEiGO 4 months ago
By the way, probably you don't imagine that in the last night, I managed to criticize my own country to a stupid Danish guy who was teasing about my country? Of course I told him to go back to his land, but I actually agreed that a lot of stuff is wrong in my country! BIG BIG HUGE DIFERENCE BETWEEN PORTUGAL AND ISRAEL: PORTUGUESE AKNOWLEDGE THEIR FAILURES, ISRAELIS CONSIDER THEMSELVES SO DIVINE THAT THEY CAN'T CONCEIVE THAT THEY'VE FAILURES! QUITE LIKE IN NAZI GERMANY OR IN IRAN, NO?
nmgscp 5 months ago
Did you know that Timorese people were able to participate in Indonesian political life (and many did)? Honestly I don't need to have been in Pinochet's Chile, Suharto's Indonesia, Mubarak's Egypt, Franco's Spain, SEGREGATED USA, OR PIETER BOTHA'S SOUTH AFRICA to know what was happening there! The more I see pro-Israeli establishment propaganda, the more I am anti-Israel... This kind of propaganda has actually converted me into an actual ANTI-ZIONIST!
nmgscp 5 months ago
Israel only tolerates (openly) the Arabs as a minority... In a democratic country, the majority decides, yes, but Jews in Israel make sure that they are always the majority, by excluding the Palestinians from participating in Israeli politics (well, they accept 20%, which doesn't endangeour the Jewish majority), by denying the Palestinians right of return, while encouraging Russian and Lithuanian Jews in... even if they are atheists... Are Jews a race? So, according to you Hitler was right!
nmgscp 5 months ago
"What exactly makes Israel racist?" Let me answer that to you, Mr. supremacist Jewish Cartoon (one of those that Goebbels would like a lot): Israeli constitution: Israel is a Jewish state... neither the Portuguese (at least) says that Portugal is a Portuguese state nor the Indian constitution, e.g., states that India is a Hindu state!... Why APARTHEID is actually practiced in the West Bank?... Othewise either the Jews there would have the Palestinian rights or vice-versa! Swallow that, Israelis!
nmgscp 5 months ago
Ah, there are Arabs militaries in Israel, but of course, they're a little minority; well, wow, there are both Israeli and Arab doctors and patients in Israeli hospitals!,,,, Of course there were also black South African black doctors and patients during the Apartheid... I'm 36 years old, I know how it was, don't fool me!... In every shopping mall, public park, etc there are both Arabs and Jews... what an achievement! The point is that only 20% or 25% or Arabs ruled by Israel enjoy such luxuries!
nmgscp 5 months ago
My country (Portugal) has overtaken Apartheid in 1975 through a revolution made by the PORTUGUESE PEOPLE, in SOUTH AFRICA, 70% of the WHITES (including 12% Portuguese) voted for the END OF APARTHEID!... Israel is the only country in the world where there is still Apartheid... and no, don't compare it to Malaysia, because Chinese and Indian Malaysians, though not having the political power, they have the economic!....
nmgscp 5 months ago
1: bible - nope, also germans were in poland, should poland belong to them now instead of polaks that lived there for thousands of years?
2: theres no such page
3: Its israel and USA that have vetoed every UN resolution. Peace was often breached by Israel building settlements.
4: 1948 It was after Brits left palestine as colony, what right Israel had there against palestinians who lived there for generations? 1967 - Israel ATTACKED first and occupied land to this day.
5: Egypt?
EmperorTerran 5 months ago
oh find that article, I wrote about before
Arab guy was sentenced for 18 months in prison for rape because he told jewish girl that he was also jewish. He lied so he is in prison.
to find the article google" arab rape jew guardian"
EmperorTerran 5 months ago
Rocket attacks in to Israel in last decade killed 30 people. Thats roughly as much as deaths by vending machines.
On the other hand Israel killed 1400 children and destroyed ~30,000 homes.
You might think but thats not apartheid in Israel, but if israel occupies territory and prevent forming a state that could safely and independently develop, it is racism in Israel.
Few months ago there was article about women reporting man to the police. She slept with him but she though he was jew..
EmperorTerran 5 months ago
@EmperorTerran For the past twenty years Palestinian terrorist cells have launched suicide bombers, carbombs, rockets, mortar rounds, anti-tank missiles, and sniper fire on Israeli territory and claimed the lives of THOUSANDS of innocent Israeli civilians. You are either ignorant or a liar.
HeadofIbis 5 months ago
@HeadofIbis
When you push people to the edge they start pushing back. Its undisputed fact that israel killed far more than palestinians terrorists cells, including FAR more civilians. Also its international war crime to punish entire popularion for actions of few.
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@HeadofIbis
When you push people to the edge they start pushing back. Its undisputed fact that israel killed far more than palestinians terrorists cells, including FAR more civilians. Also its international war crime to punish entire popularion for actions of few.
EmperorTerran 5 months ago
israeli apartheid week should be in september. that's when I heard those parasites are going to attack Iran.
oveid 7 months ago
GREAT GREAT video!!!!
israelawareness1 7 months ago
gaza is auswitch
abdulduule 7 months ago
@abdulduule Just because the "Palestinians"
oshri02 7 months ago
PRAYER FOR PALESTINE FROM A JEW:Let us help them to create something extraordinary,just as we have for ourselves-it is in our best interest to do so! Let us help them to build a home they will love with all their hearts, as we love Israel with all of ours.! Let's teach each other how to win non-zero sum games. We are both great nations-let us never forget this!Let us nurture peace with both our enemies and our friends, and recognize that they are a mirror...reflecting light unto the nations.
tikkunolam613 8 months ago
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jew bankers are killing us
hcwcars1 8 months ago
"Like France is for the French"? You know how erroneous an analogy that is, I don't even need to point out how obvious the difference between "Israel for the Jews" and "France for the French" is.
2010 was not an opportunity for statehood. Why should the Palestinians come to the table less than two years after the ludicrous and unreasonable actions of Olmert in 2008? What reason did they have to think it would be different? Netanyahu's even more intransigent.
BlckComb 8 months ago
@BlckComb what's so erroneous? Turkey is the homeland for turks, France is the homeland 4 french, Why should Israel not be the homeland of the jewish people?
'10 was a great for starting negotiations. the fact that the right-winged Netanyahu (BTW the Likud is a more moderate right now than ever) was willing to freeze settlements for a chance and negotiations and then extend the freeze. How many times will Palestinians come and say "Give us this or that and we'll consider negotiations".
BakaWarsh 8 months ago 2
@BakaWarsh "French" isn't a religious identity, it's a nationality, defined by the country you're born in and nothing else. You can be a French Jew, Sikh, Satanist, Jedi. You can't be a Jewish Sikh, a Jewish Muslim, a Jewish Christian.
Just because Palestine was under Ottoman then British control, doesn't deny it status as a geopolitical entity; if that's the case, you should deny the statehood of Brunei and Hong Kong, as they too were not states until recently but under British control.
BlckComb 8 months ago
@BlckComb wikipedia > Nationality
U R confusing citizenship with nationality. yes an asian can be french or naturalized as an american, but most countries (including most muslim states) exist because a group of people from a certain ethnic, historic, geographic, and religious background founded it. even france started as a strict catholic nation.
Obviously, the arabs inhabiting it have geographic relation the 2 land, and the jews have ancestral relation as well. its not all black&white
BakaWarsh 8 months ago 2
@BlckComb the last 2 sentences refer to israel.
BTW, since 1890's when the 1st aliyahs wave occurred and until today, it was the jews that invested in the land. for centuries the arabs in it did nothing for the desolate land:. when the jews came the dried up swamps, planted fields and forests, built, farms cities, made this into one of the most prosperous places in the region, without the help of oil.
do u suppose that a century later they should just pick up and leave or give everything away?
BakaWarsh 8 months ago 17
@BakaWarsh - What a load of Zionist garbage. The native Palestinians were doing just fine before the invading white European Zionist Jews arrived and started stealing their land. The invading Jews not only stole land from the native Palestinians, they stole their water as well and have sucked Palestinian aquifers nearly dry, the dead sea is drying up and even the once pristine Jordan River is now nothing but an open sewer. Nice job
JDGillis 2 months ago
Wow. Another person who knows nothing about Middle-East History. Doing just fine? Do you even know that there was no period of time that European Jews had been migrating to the Middle-East?
When Spain conquered Grenada, the last Muslim stronghold on the Iberian Peninsula. Many of the Jews who are from there came to what you call Palestine and settled there? During each ethnic crisis made in Europe between Christians and Jews, Jews have migrated to Israel for over a thousand years?
SmartGuy4today 2 months ago
Before the German Holocaust, there was a Russian Holocaust in the 1880's in which a third of the Jewish population was simply wiped out. Many of those Jews migrated to what you call Palestine well before their German counterparts. Before then, Napoleon in the early 19th century had encouraged French Jewish settlement into the Middle East. And before then Saladin the Kurdish Sultan of Spain and Syria had encouraged many Babylonian Jews to what you call Palestine.
SmartGuy4today 2 months ago
So tell me exactly when was there a time that no Jew (European or not European) migrated to Palestine. Also, hate towards European Jews is still hate towards Jews. Just because they are from Europe doesn't make it okay to demonstrate such bigotry and hate towards them. They are still Jews and hating them is still hate towards all Jews. Get that through your head, you Nazi Antisemite.
If you want to raise concerns about Palestinian Arab rights. That is fine. Just don't do so in vain.
SmartGuy4today 2 months ago
Stealing who's land? I am sorry, but you are confusing the Arab World of the Pre-Twentieth Century with the Arab World of today. Palestine was the Sanjak of Jerusalem. It wasn't even called Palestine or Filastin, except by the Westerners. It was simply a subject of the Ottomans and the Ottoman Empire was a theocratic despotate, just as the Middle-East has always been ruled since the Persian Dynasty of Cyrus the Great and had continued by Muslim Sultanates and Emirates.
SmartGuy4today 2 months ago
The land what you call Palestine was a subject of the Ottoman Sultan and that Sultan legally granted that land (being all land South of Modern-Day Turkey) to Britain and France, who in turn created Iraq, Lebanon, Syria, and Palestine as Mandates or Colonies as it should be correctly termed.
Palestine was designed to be upheld by the Balfour Declaration, which means legally, the authority of the land past by the Ottoman Sultan to the British and from the British to the Jews.
SmartGuy4today 2 months ago
Read the Charter of Mandate of Palestine, it has the Balfour Declaration in it. Thus legally, the Mandate of Palestine is designed to follow the Balfour Declaration, not any agreement made between Britain and the Arabs. I am sorry, but that is a problem you have with Britain. And unfortunately Britain could do whatever it wanted. It is a sovereign state. Palestine never was. It was just some territory owned by Britain and formulated by a law that legally followed the wishes of Zionists
SmartGuy4today 2 months ago
And as noted, the authority of the Zionists to rule Israel comes from the Balfour Declaration in the Charter of the Mandate of Palestine. And the Mandate of Palestine comes from the British in their agreement with the Zionists to fund the British efforts against the Germans in WW1. British Authority comes from the Treaty of Sevres of 1922 between the Ottoman Sultan and the British Prime Minister. The Authority of the Ottomans comes from the recognition of Sharif of Mecca AND...
SmartGuy4today 2 months ago
AND... the Mamluk Sultan of Egypt, who was the ruler of what you call Palestine before the Ottomans. The Mamluk Sultan had recognized the Ottoman Sultan as his superior and decreed the land to the Sultan of the Ottomans as well as his own servitude to be beneath the Sultan of the Ottomans. The Sharif of Mecca (a different person) had decreed the Ottoman Sultan to be the Caliph of Islam. So not only was the Ottoman Sultan the rightful ruler of Palestine, but also Islam.
SmartGuy4today 2 months ago
The authority of the Mamluk Sultan of Egypt comes from the marriage made by the Widow of a descendent of Saladin to a Mamluk General. And the authority by the descent of Saladin comes from Saladin who was recognized by all known nations of the world as the victor of the Crusades and the Protector of Islam and the Protector of Palestine. That is where the authority of the Zionists to rule Palestine comes from, dumbass.
SmartGuy4today 2 months ago
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Lastly, this white racism you are demonstrating. I certainly hope you weren't a supporter of the Genocide in Darfur in which light skin Sudanese were killing darker skin Sudanese. Cause you know, most Arab countries supported that Genocide, especially the Palestinians. And the Israelis were one of the few countries that opposed it from the start.
SmartGuy4today 2 months ago
@BakaWarsh Enjoy it while you can.
Fronika 1 month ago
@BakaWarsh Yes. Israel agreed to the current border in 1967. The UN created Israel for the Jews, it was the organization's first mandate after the Nuremberg trials. Now the UN says, and Israel agreed to, the 1967 border (at the end of the last organised war). The UN and most of the world sees Israel's occupation of Palestine as illegal. The only way for Israel to be part of the solution is for it to respect that border.
Tressiensia 4 weeks ago
@BlckComb Hold up man, Jewishness is a national identity too - one who descends from Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. You can be a Jewish buddhist, Jewish Christian, Jewish athiest.
zahnast 6 months ago
@zahnast If they're descended from a certain people, that's a race, not a nation. Besides, the concept of a 'nation of Israel' in ancient times is highly contentious. The closest they came was under a succession of empires (6th-2nd century BC), but it was still effectively a protectorate. Should we give every group that has a 3,000-year-old claim to a piece of land their own country there?
I agree though, "Jewish" blurs boundaries. It is my belief that it is primarily a religious definition.
BlckComb 6 months ago
@BlckComb they're also a nation, which by definition is a people who share a common language, ethnicity, descent and history. There's no question over Israel's right to the land because it's already been given - you can't go back on a nearly 100 year old mandate. Obviously the League of Nations thought Israel had a right to the land of Palestine. The Arabs had their chance to have a piece of Israel's land when it was offered in 47 - they rejected the offer.
zahnast 6 months ago
Protesting against Israel is cool? Tell that to Emily Henochowicz, a Jewish-American citizen who was hit in the face by an IDF gas canister fired, against international law, directly into a crowd, breaking her skull and losing her an eye.
Tell that to Rachel Corrie, run over by an IDF bulldozer as she tried to prevent the destruction of Palestinian homes on Palestinian land.
BlckComb 8 months ago
@BlckComb Emily Henochowiz was violently protesting within a mob of people throwing rocks.
Rachel Corrie is a stupid idiot how both stood before a gigantic bulldozer while it is running amock, and when she was run over it was because she was in the bulldozer's blind spot. more over Rachel Corrie was a hamas sympathizer, having been photographed several times burning both American and Israeli flags, and calling for the downfall of the "Western Devil" and the "Jewish Devil"... a real angel
BakaWarsh 8 months ago 4
@BlckComb also, i suppose that the entire IDF and jewish people are 2 blame for mishaps of single soldiers. Gaza is a warzone, not because israel wishes it but because Hamas uses the population as a shield 4 it's terrorists activities,by placing HQs & Caches in hospitals or near schools. in a warzone sh*t happens, mistakes R made. Almost every military in the allies (US, UK, France etc) makes mistakes that cost civi lives... are they evil? Hamas moto: we love death as much as the jews love life.
BakaWarsh 8 months ago 4
@BakaWarsh I googled the lynching. Nasty business. But comparing atrocities won't get us anywhere, all it proves is that the situation is divisive and hate-fueled. Try the Sabra and Shatila massacre, for which the IDF provided transportation. Read the Palestine Papers. They demonstrate that Israeli stonewalling in secret negotiations leads to lack of agreement, and that Palestine is willing to make vast concessions - that Israel will still not accept. Israel, does not, want peace.
BlckComb 8 months ago
@BlckComb "that Israel will still not accept. Israel, does not, want peace."
Israel has publicly accepted & supported a palestinian state alongside it's own. However no palestinian body is willing to publicy accept the the existence of an Israeli state, that is the main issue here.
Israel made concessions for peace with Egypt, and need i remind you that just for the U.N resolution the jewish leaders conceded the land promised to them on the eastern bank of the jordan river by the british mandate
BakaWarsh 8 months ago 3
@BlckComb just who do you think controls the newpapres in Gaza and the West Bank? it's hamas and fatah respectively.
You want to talk stonewalling? Israel is ready to give 1000+ palestinian terrorists just for Gilaad Shalit. and he's a simple soldier from the armor regiment. why does the palestinians stonewall that agreement? why does Israel pay and funds medicare and family visits for known terrorist prisoners while hamas refuses to allow Shalit a visit from the red cross.
BakaWarsh 8 months ago 3
@BakaWarsh I definitely do want to talk stonewalling. How about in 2008, when Mahmoud Abbas gave the unprecedented offer of the Israeli annexation of all illegal settlements in East Jerusalem - Olmert demanded twice as much land as Abbas' unrivalled offer, and wouldn't even let him confer with the Palestinian Authority on the subject. Tzipi Livni explicitly stated that it had been the policy of previous Israeli governments to prevent a Palestinian state by forcible expropriation of land.
BlckComb 8 months ago
@BlckComb 8 times the palestinian side had an opportunity to create a state of their own:
if the basques, Catalonians, Quebecois, Kurds and more had 1 opportunity with the conditions that were offered to the palestinians, they would have an independent state.
1937: Lord Phil committee recommendations. they did not agree.
1947: U.N. Resolution 181, they did not agree. they could have had a free country back then. no refugees.
1949: Anglo-American (with jordan and egypt) offers. Rejected.
BakaWarsh 8 months ago 3
@BlckComb 1967: palestinians accept Hartum committee: No to peace with israel, No recognition of israel's right for existence, no negotiations with israel. The 6 day war would not have happened,Palestine in 67 boarders would be a reality by now.
1988: 104 countries decided to renounce terrorism & recognize israel. Palestine did not come forward and negotiate with the world & israel.
1993-4: Oslo and Cairo accords. Israel delivered Palestinians did not.
2010: unconditioned negotiations. Rejected.
BakaWarsh 8 months ago 2
@BlckComb The majority of israelis right now are pro 2-states. but we don't want a neighbouring failed state. Palestinian territories right now has the infrastructure for a self maintained state & can probably procure large donations. But it also has Hamas and thousands of uncontrolled guerrilla cells. It is cut off into 2 parts. the palestinians claims parts of jordan by irredentism.
More over israel welcomes every ethnicity but prefer to be a state for the jews, like france is for french.
BakaWarsh 8 months ago 3
@BakaWarsh As for 1988, the 80s were dominated by the Jerusalem Law, declared void by the UN Security Council 14 votes to 0.... what reason did the Palestinians have to come to the table when Israel so clearly and blatantly disregarded not only territorial boundaries, but international law?
Netanyahu's "own intepretation" of the Oslo Accords, utilising ambiguity in boundary definitions to continue settlement-building. Please, your view is so simplistic.
BlckComb 8 months ago
@BlckComb oh please. If anyone on the palestinian side wanted true peace, some leader by now would have publicly stated that israel has a right to exist.
I don't give a damn about Netanyahu's views. Rabin did his part of the Oslo accord, and so did barak until the Intifadah.
Israel gave guns (for "police" force) & funds, settlement freezes in exchange for a chance at negotiations. those were turned against us. Israel unilaterally left gaza as a gesture only to have rockets fired at closer range
BakaWarsh 8 months ago 2
@BakaWarsh Resolution 181: If the French discovered that a political-religious identity scattered throughout the world laid claim to their land, and that a UN resolution was drawing up plans for half their land to be given to this state, and this partition plan was drawn up by the people wanting to claim half the French land and turn it into a religiously uniform state (Ben Gurion), eventually implementing their will by force - do you think the French would happily go along with this plan?
BlckComb 8 months ago
@BlckComb In no point in time did the land belong to a Palestinian entity.
It went from belonging to the ottomans to the brits, and was then to be divided. Palestinians BECAME that after the israeli state was made. Before, they were jordanians, syrians who spread to that place.
Force? I don't remember 6 Jewish armies attacking a small arab minority and losing badly (1948,67,73). They attacked, They Lost, Some of them fled, Some others banished. But so were thousands of jews in arab countries.
BakaWarsh 8 months ago 3
@BlckComb FYI both Hamas & Fatah kill more palestinians each year than the entire IDF. the only reason they cry out is 'cause it appears better when the IDF injures civs and they seem more humane. Arab women get more Rights in Israel (equal to those of the jews) rather than Gaza (where they can't vote, work, dress, or marry how they want). Same goes for Gays.
Look at the Syrian, Libyan, Egyptian Leaders. What makes you think Hamas and Fatah are any different
ALSO GOOGLE RAMALLAH LYNCHING PLEASE
BakaWarsh 8 months ago
@BakaWarsh so throwing rocks gives the IDF the right to break international law? I suppose you therefore agree with the illegal repression of Bashar Al-Assad's Syrian regime then... after all, you've just said that brutal illegal crowd control is OK if the protest is violent.
Rachel Corrie was looking directly into the cabin of the bulldozer as it ran over her. There is no debate here, except if you are willing to believe the Israeli propaganda machine against the words of multiple eyewitnesses.
BlckComb 8 months ago
If there is an Israel apartheid week then there should be an Arab apartheid year. In all Arab and Moslem countries minorites especially christians as there are only a handful of Jews left are murdered, raped, tortured and imprisoned. Churches are burnt, bibles are desecrated and priests and nuns are raped and killed. That is what happens when you worship satan and its prophet.
sunnyhillo 9 months ago
In Egypt you cannot be a member of the government if you are Christian.
In Syria you must be Alaouite (which is actually a minority group) to be in any public office.
In Jordan the Bedouin minority rules. When the Jordan's Palestinian 's (the majority in that land) tried to rebel at the 70's they were crashed and butchered by the Jordanian army (an event they call black September).
In Iran and Saudi Arebia you must be Muslim (only Shiite /only Sunni) to have any rights at all. Apartheid anyone?
nitnis 9 months ago
The so-called ‘Palestinian autonomous areas’ are bantustans. These are restricted entities within the power structure of the Israeli apartheid system.
Nelson Mandela
Henry Siegman, former director of American Jewish Congress (and a recipient of Bronze Star and Purple Heart), has stated that Israel has "crossed the threshold from "the only Democracy in the Middle East" to the only Apartheid regime in the Western world
saadasim 9 months ago
@saadasim, that quote is not from Nelson Mandela. It's from Arjan El Fassed, who wrote a fake letter from Nelson Mandela to Thomas Friedman.
Fassed soon admitted that he made the whole thing up. Nevertheless the "Mandela letter" keeps traveling. Just like the Protocols of the Elders of Zion.
Once a lie is born, it never dies.
Nice try.
Kurtlane 9 months ago
@Kurtlane Gandhi, Desmond Tutu, and even Einstein criticized the way that Israel was created. Yes, Arab dictatorships are bad but they should not be an example.
saadasim 9 months ago
@saadasim, so what should be an example?
Easy for those types to criticize, they were safely somewhere else.
Btw, I'm not enamored of either Gandhi or Desmond Tutu.
How about getting into the facts, instead of relying on authority figures to tell you what to think.
Kurtlane 9 months ago
@Kurtlane Yes, I know you are not enamored of Gandhi, Tutu, Mandela and other peace loving people. You probably have a picture of Ariel Sharon or Gengis Khan on your wall.
Here's a fact for you:
Israel broke worldwide embargo to give arms to Apartheid South Africa but kills people who want to give humanitarian aid to Palestinians.
saadasim 9 months ago
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@saadasim, talking about Genghis Khan,
"This will be a war of extermination and a momentous massacre which will be spoken of like the Mongolian massacres and the Crusades." - Arab League Secretary General Azzam Pasha, May 15, 1948, the day five Arab armies invaded the new state of Israel, one day after the nation declared its independence
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Kurtlane 9 months ago
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Lovely quote, isn't it? Here is another one from Azzam Pasha:
""[There are] three characteristics of the future war; the belief in glorious death as a road to paradise, the opportunities of lust and the [Arab] love of slaughter for its own sake"
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Kurtlane 9 months ago
A few more:
"The Arab nations should sacrifice up to 10 million of their 50 million people, if necessary, to wipe out Israel ... Israel to the Arab world is like a cancer to the human body, and the only way of remedy is to uproot it, just like a cancer." --Saud ibn Abdul Aziz, King of Saudi Arabia, Associated Press, Jan. 9, 1954
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Kurtlane 9 months ago
"I announce from here, on behalf of the United Arab Republic people, that this time we will exterminate Israel." --President Gamal Abdel Nasser of Egypt, speech in Alexandria, July 26, 1959
"We shall never call for nor accept peace. We shall only accept war. We have resolved to drench this land with your (Israel's) blood, to oust you as aggressor, to throw you into the sea." --Hafez Assad, then-Syrian Defense Minister, May 24, 1966, who later became Syria's president.
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Kurtlane 9 months ago
"The existence of Israel is an error which must be rectified. This is our opportunity to wipe out the ignominy which has been with us since 1948. Our goal is clear -- to wipe Israel off the map." --President Abdel Rahman Aref of Iraq, May 31, 1967
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Kurtlane 9 months ago
"All countries should wage war against the Zionists, who are there to destroy all human organizations and to destroy civilization and the work which good people are trying to do."
--King Faisal of Saudi Arabia, in a speech in Uganda, Beirut Daily Star, Nov. 17, 1972
"We should throw in their faces the flesh of their sons, minced and grilled." - Dr. Ayman al-Zawahiri, Jihad Bulletin, Dec. 1997
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Kurtlane 9 months ago
"Let's get this bit out of the way. We're not looking for concessions from the West. We want your concept of civilization to be over. We want to destroy it, and replace it with ours." - Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah
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Kurtlane 9 months ago
"Let the entire world hear me. Our hostility to the Great Satan [America] is absolute... Regardless of how the world has changed after 11 September, 'Death to America' will remain our reverberating and powerful slogan: 'Death to America!'" - Hasan Nasrallah, speech broadcast Sep. 27, 2002 on Al-Manar
"To kill and be killed are the supreme duties of Muslims."
- Ayatollah Khomeini
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Kurtlane 9 months ago
"We do not worship Iran. We worship Allah. For patriotism is another name for paganism. I say let this land [Iran] burn. I say let this land go up in smoke, provided Islam emerges triumphant in the rest of the world." - Ayatollah Khomeini
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Kurtlane 9 months ago
"My message to the loathed Jews... We are a nation that drinks blood, and we know that there is no blood better than the blood of Jews. We will not leave you alone until we have quenched our thirst with your blood, and our children's thirst with your blood. We will not leave until you leave the Muslim countries." - From a suicide video of Hamas suicide terrorist went to the Karni Crossing and killed an Israeli soldier on December 7, 2004. The video appeared on Hamas website in February 2006
Kurtlane 9 months ago
"with the Jews, nothing works but force. Memorize the following parable, just like I learned it from others: 'Kiss the head of a Jew, and he will deceive you - deceive him, and he will kiss your head.' The Jew is treacherous, disloyal, deceitful, and belligerent by nature. Nothing works with him but force. […] They have formed clandestine groups in Islamic societies, as well as internationally" - Saudi cleric Khaled Al Khlewi, spoeaking to children. Aired on Al-Jazeera TV on January 11, 2009
Kurtlane 9 months ago
"The process of settlement [of Muslim Brotherhood in the U.S.] is a ‘Civilization-Jihadist Process’ with all the word means. The Ikhwan must understand that their work in America is a kind of grand Jihad in eliminating and destroying the Western civilization from within and 'sabotaging' its miserable house by their hands and the hands of the believers so that it is eliminated and God’s religion is made victorious over all other religions. ...
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Kurtlane 9 months ago
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"It is a Muslim’s destiny to perform Jihad and work wherever he is and wherever he lands until the final hour comes" - An Explanatory Memorandum; On the General Strategic Goal for the Group in North America by Dr Mohamed Akram Adlouni, formerly top Muslim Brotherhood agent in the U.S., currently the head of the International al-Quds Foundation and the al-Quds International Institute in Lebanon
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Kurtlane 9 months ago
"From here, Allah the almighty has called upon us not to ally with the Jews or the Christians, not to like them, not to become their partners, not to support them, and not to sign agreements with them. And he who does that, is one of them, as Allah said: 'O you who believe, do not take the Jews and the Christians as allies, for they are allies of one another. Who from among you takes them as allies will indeed be one of them...
(cont.)
Kurtlane 9 months ago
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"Whether Likud or Labor, Jews are Jews. They do not have any moderates or any advocates of peace. They are all liars... O brother believers, the criminals, the terrorists - are the Jews, who have butchered our children, orphaned them, widowed our women and desecrated our holy places and sacred sites. They are the terrorists. They are the ones who must be butchered and killed, as Allah the almighty said ...
(cont.)
Kurtlane 9 months ago
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"O brothers in belief, the beautiful bride has a costly price and dowry... Our bride is paradise, O brothers in belief... The cost and the dowry of this bride, the dowry of this paradise, is that we fight in the path of Allah, and kill and be killed.
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Kurtlane 9 months ago
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"[The Jews] must be butchered and killed. Have no mercy on the Jews no matter where they are, in any country. Fight them, wherever you are. Wherever you meet them, kill them. Wherever you are, kill those Jews and those Americans who are like them - and those who stand by them" - Gaza preacher, Dr. Sheik Ahmad Abu Halabiya, from a Friday sermon in the Zayed bin Sultan Aal Nahyan mosque in Gaza. Broadcast live on official Palestinian Authority television October 13, 2000
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Kurtlane 9 months ago
"[Jews] also used this wealth to stir revolutions in different parts of the world ... With their money they created secret organizations that spread around the world in order to destroy societies and carry out Zionist interests. Such organizations are the Freemasons, Rotary cluns, Lions clubs, B'nei Briths and the like. All of them are destructive espionage organizations" - From the Article 22 of the Charter of Hamas. Written by Sheikh Ahmed Yassin
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Kurtlane 9 months ago
"Killing for the sake of God wipes out the sins. Go and wipe out your sins as martyrs." - Nizar Rayyan. Hamas leader. To a rally in Jabaliyah refugee camp, Feb 9, 2002)
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Kurtlane 9 months ago
"You see these people [the Jews] all the time everywhere, disseminating corruption, heresy, homosexuality, alcoholism and drugs. They do this to impose their hegemony and colonialism on the world. Now, they are riding on the back of the world powers." - Sheikh Muhammad Al-Gamei'a, Former imam of New York's Islamic Cultural Center, the largest mosque in the U.S., speaking immediately upon arrival to Egypt after September 11th
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Kurtlane 9 months ago
"The U.S. took over the state of Ottawa to conduct experiments there with deadly biological weapons... Also, Jewish tourists infected with AIDS are traveling around Asian and African countries with the aim of spreading the disease... Israel continues to use germ warfare to destroy the Palestinian people on its occupied land" - Dr. Husniya Hassan Moussa, lecturer at the National Research Center in an article in Al-'Ilm (Egypt), November 2001
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Kurtlane 9 months ago
"Woe upon whomever will not raid, and not tell tales of raids. Woe upon whomever does not give his children Jihad education... Blessed is he who fights Jihad in the name of Allah, blessed is he who goes on a raid in the name of Allah, blessed is he who dons a vest of explosives on himself or his children and goes in to the depth of the Jews in their sinful disco" - Preacher Muhammad Ibrahim Maadi in Friday's sermon broadcast live on Palestinian Authority TV after terrorist attack in Tel Aviv
Kurtlane 9 months ago
"If it was the Holy Spirit that placed a child in [virgin] Mary´s womb. Perhaps that same holy spirit placed the bomb in the heart of Wafa, and enveloped her pure body with dynamite. From Mary´s womb issued a child who eliminated oppression, while the body of Wafa became shrapnel that eliminated despair and aroused hope." - Head of the Department of Psychiatry at Cairo´s 'Ein Shams University. Hadith al-Medina, Egyptian media outlet, as reported in the London-based al-Quds al-'Arabi
Kurtlane 9 months ago
"The covetous, racist, and hated Jew Shylock, who cut the flesh from Antonio's chest with the knife of hatred, invades you with his money, his modern airplanes, his missiles, and his nuclear bombs." - Ali 'Aqleh 'Ursan, chairman of the Arab Writers' Association
I can go on and on with quotes, all equally powerful in their filth and evil.
But let me end by quoting just 4 more,
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Kurtlane 9 months ago
The first one is about the 9-11 bombers, the day of the attack:
"The suicide bombers of today are the noble successors of ... the Lebanese suicide bombers, who taught the US Marines a tough lesson in [Beirut]. These suicide bombers are the salt of the earth, the engines of history.... They are the most honorable among us."
Al-Hayat Al-Jadida, official PA daily. , September 11, 2001
Kurtlane 9 months ago
The second is from Hasan al-Banna, founder of Muslim Brotherhood, welcoming Hajj Amin al-Husseini to Egypt in 1946:
""Muslim Brotherhood and all Arabs request the Arab League to declare that the Mufti is welcome to stay in any Arab country. What a hero! What a miracle of a man! Yes, this hero who challenged empire and fought Zionism with the help of Hitler and Germany. Germany and Hitler age gone, but Amin al-Husseini will continue the struggle.
(cont. quote)
Kurtlane 9 months ago
(cont, quote)
"God entrusted him with a mission, and he must succeed. Amen, march on, God is with you, we are behind you, we are willing to sacrifice our necks for the cause, to death forward march."
Hasan al-Banna, founder of Muslim Brotherhood, welcoming Hajj Amin al-Husseini. 1946
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Kurtlane 9 months ago
The third is from Hajj Amin al-Husseini himself, broadcasting from Berlin in 1942:
"We think it best if the life of the Egyptian nation is to be saved if the Egyptians rise as one man to kill the Jews before they have a chance of betraying the Egyptian people. It is the duty of the Egyptians to annihilate the Jews and destroy their property. Arabs of Syria, Iraq and Palestine, what are you waiting for? The Jews are planning to violate your women, kill your children, destroy you."
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Kurtlane 9 months ago
- From broadcast "Kill the Jews before they kill you". "Voice of free Arabism." Headed by Hajj Amin al-Husseini German radio broadcast in Arabic. July 7, 1942.
Finally, from Heinrich Himmler to Hajj Amin al-Husseini:
"To the Grand Mufti [Hajj Amin al-Husseini]: The National Socialist movement of Greater Germany has, since its inception, inscribed upon its flag the fight against the world Jewry.
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Kurtlane 9 months ago
(cont, quote from Himmler)
"It has therefore followed with particular sympathy the struggle of freedom-loving Arabs, especially in Palestine, against Jewish interlopers. In the recognition of this enemy and of the common struggle against it lies the firm foundation of the natural alliance that exists between the National Socialist Greater Germany and the freedom-loving Muslims of the whole world.
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Kurtlane 9 months ago
(cont. qyite from Himmler)
"In this spirit I am sending you on the anniversary of the infamous Balfour declaration my hearty greetings and wishes for the successful pursuit of your struggle until the final victory."
Signed: Reichsfuehrer S.S. Heinrich Himmler"
November 2, 1943
Kurtlane 9 months ago
@Kurtlane I am not supporting the Arab leaders. I am only supporting those who want to live in peace. That does not seem to be Israel.
saadasim 9 months ago
@saadasim, Israel is the only one who wants to live in peace. Everyone else over there wants war.
I've been there. I've seen it with my own eyes. Israel wants peace to increadible, illogical, insane lengths. Even when it's quite obvious that its very wanting of peace will bring war. In the name of peace, Jews are massively booted out of their own homes, discriminated against, given second places after Arabs.
I've seen it with my own eyes, heard it with my own ears.
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Kurtlane 9 months ago
Israeli peace marchers march alongside Arabs chanting "Kutile al-Yahood" (kill the Jews) and pretend they don't notice.
Israeli diplomats grovel, beg, against all protocol get treated like slaves in old days, pretend they don't notice the barrage of insults that follows them. The government bends over backwards till it does backflips and turns the other cheek till it spins to accommodate Arab demands.
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Kurtlane 9 months ago
You don't know and I won't tell you (because I'm too ashamed to tell you) to what shameful self-racist lenghts that search for peace has gone.
But it takes two to tango. No one can make peace with those who do not want it.
I've studied this thing for 18 years, ever since the "peace process" began in 1992.
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Kurtlane 9 months ago
I know how much the all-around image of Israel as the war monger and neighborhood bully is false and wrong and contrary to reality, just as it is so close to traditional, eternal "blame the Jews" of Jew hatred.
What can I say? Perhaps if something is so close to Jew hatred as to be indistinguishable, it is Jew hatred.
The whole world is one giant Jew hater.
Kurtlane 9 months ago
@Kurtlane
Israel breaks cease fire July 2, 2008
haaretzXcom/hasen/spages/997665Xhtml
Norman Finkelstein: Israel broke cease fire
normanfinkelsteinXcom/articleXphp?pg=11&ar=2411
Hamas maintained cease-fire June - November 2008
watch?v=7ej-h6_CQJM
CNN Confirms Israel Broke Ceasefire First
watch?v=KntmpoRXFX4
saadasim 9 months ago
@saadasim, keep lying, baby.
All these sources have no weight at all with me. Finkelstein in particular.
The Middle-Eastern cease fire is when Jews cease and Arabs fire.
Here is how it works:
Cease fire is negotiated with one group.
Shortly after the cease fire takes effect, some other group (Fatah, Hamas, Islamic Jihad or other) fires a rocket. The international community calls it a minor violation, not breakage.
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Kurtlane 9 months ago
Sometimes it's the subgroup of the one with whom cease fire deal was made. Sometimes it's not even a subgroup, just the same group covering up under another name.
Anyway, the international community calls it a minor violation, not breakage.
Seeing that there is not retaliation, the violatior and the others, including the ones with whom the deal was made, start launching rockets. They begin to compete as to who can launch more rockets and kill more Jews.
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Kurtlane 9 months ago
The object of their competition are the Palestinians at large: whoever launches and kills mjore is the hero.
Anyway, even as the number of rockets soars into thousands, the international community continues calling it a bunch of minor violations, not breakage, and warning Israel it'll be damned if it responds.
Eventually, Israel does respond, and everyone and your mother-in-law dumps on Israel for being this horrible breaker of cease fires.
Especially Norman Finkelstein.
Kurtlane 9 months ago
@Kurtlane There were no rockets fired while Israel was constantly firing into Gaza.. If all these international sources (both Jewish and non-Jewish) are false then you are welcome to come up with your own independent source if you can do so. Since you have only made conjectures without giving attribution or date, I will have to discount your thinking.
saadasim 9 months ago
@saadasim "There were no rockets fired while Israel was constantly firing into Gaza."
Not true. The rockets never stopped.
Yehudittx 9 months ago
@saadasim, google and read
"Do Jews have civil rights?" by Caroline Glick
If you want to know the truth.
Kurtlane 9 months ago
@saadasim, just compare Israel with its neighbors.
63 years ago, Israel was nothing. Now - look at it. 1st world country, with all sorts of leading edge technologies. Do you think it would be possible if Israelis really concentrated on hating their enemies?
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Kurtlane 9 months ago
And the neighbors, close or distant. They were better off than Israelis 63 years ago. And where are they now? Do you think they would be so far down if they hadn't concentrated concentrated on hating their enemies (whom they appointed as enemies, but who had no intention to be their enemies) as much as they had?
Kurtlane 9 months ago
@saadasim, if you truly are a student of peace, a warning. There is no human enterprise as hopeless as peace.
I too once was for peace. Until "peace process" made me a hater of peace.
Here is a phrase from Israel, "This peace is killing us." Here is another phrase, "murderous peace."
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Kurtlane 9 months ago
Kurtlane 9 months ago
(cont. poem)
"They're working by night and by day
On their problem, like moles.
Have mercy, O Heaven, I pray,
On their meddlesome souls!"
Ro Amil
This is so so true.
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Kurtlane 9 months ago
If you are a student of peace, you must begin with the following quote:
"Historians will one day record that never were the peaceful proposals of one man met with more hatred than mine. When Germany became the example to the world of the peaceful solution of social problems and economic difficulties, the hatred of the Bolsheviks and capitalists, the exploiters of nations, was turned against her. Only then did I turn to create the new German Wehrmacht."
- Adolf Hitler, 1936.
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Kurtlane 9 months ago
Every student of peace must begin with this quote.
Sure, everybody is for peace. Hitler too was for peace, just on his conditions.
Why would you want to be in peace business? For those who have a tiniest drop of honesty in them, it's the saddest business in the world. Nothing is more hopeless.
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Kurtlane 9 months ago
You've already started badly. Accusing Israel of not wanting peace now is like accusing a rabbit of being predatory exactly at the moment that rabbit is surrounded by wolves ready to pounce on him.
Honestly, I try not even to think about peace. Thinking about it makes me think of suicide.
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Kurtlane 9 months ago
I'll send you a short article about the conquest of Czechoslovakia in 1939. If you substitute Czechoslovakia with Israel, Palestinians with Sudetan Germans, Germany with Iran, England and France with America and Europe and Soviet Union with Russia, you will see history repeating itself.
There are a few differences too, but they are not in favor of peace, or of Israel.
There will never be peace.
Kurtlane 9 months ago
@saadasim, these are your true heroes, saadasim, even if you cover up with Einstein and Gandhi.
I wonder whose pict