Even if you're careful (don't set your stove in the low corner of the tent, for example!), cooking inside a tent isn't worth the risk, unless you're at 20,000+ feet in the Himalayas, IMHO. I've cooked outside in a raging blizzard in the Cascades. I had to take my mitten off to stir the meal every few minutes and my hand started to go numb after 20 seconds, but I still managed to cook my dinner without getting frostbite (or burning down my tent). Moral: Laziness is dangerous.
why she didn´t pour some alcohol on the corner of the tent? .. who the fuck is so silly to put a burning or still hot stove IN the tent and right in the corner....
years ago i saw something like this. it was just a tea light candle wich wasn´t too near the igloo tent walls.. we sat by the campfire and first asked ourselfs why it´s so bright behind some other tent´s.. there was nobody in the tent and a friend of mine was still able to pull out his sleeping bag...
People have been cooking in tents for 1,000's years, a percent do suffer injury or death. Some tents have a hole or a fireproof platform can be used. A stove can be set outside the zipper door, but under the vestibule. Camping is a survival challenge, a time to practice skills. You either do it carefully or earn a Darwin Award. People need to be aware of fuel spill, fumes, icy tents, fire and carbon monoxide.
@borderraven This is true, if a person had the stove sorta close, while they lay in the sleeping bag reaching out to cook, it could catch on fire, too. I am glad it doesnt burn up as fast as some might expect, but the damage could be severe.
@phrankus2009 I used to sew custom backpacking gear, phrankus, and did a test on regular ripstop (non silicone) and this silnylon. I hung two squares of fabric on a clothes line, and proceeded to light them with a cig lighter. The regular, uncoated caught fire quicker, but both were blown out by the wind.
Theories abound how flamable silnylon is, and why its horrible for tents. I find it is safe, and my fabric of choice for all gear.
Think 4 year old with a loaded handgun. Knowledge without wisdom can be a deadly thing. Now that that's done...I wonder what the outcome if a sleeping bag beacame engulfed in flame with an occupant inside. The lack of smoke from the initial tent fire might make it possible for the bag to catch befor the sleeping camper awoke.
If you run another test., I'd like to volunteer my ex as the 'dummy'. Heck, she married me. That alone qualifies her.
now come on now..... if anyone puts a fire in the corner of any tent should burn up. i would put this vedio in the tent along with the dumie that thought it up......
Wanda has nerves of steel, or is a really heavy sleeper. Backpacking all day can make you exhausted! I've had a bear messing around right next to my head & didn't wake up, but saw the prints & the scat in the morning. yikes!
@1erikleif Thats what I thought, Erikleif. It was a perfectly dry tent, too. If it were raining, I wonder? I've heard of people bringing their fuel bottles into the tent and then cooking...which could theoretically add fuel to the flames.
Real power is derived from wisdom and the courage to apply it to a particular circumstance..
The application of wisdom is what defines the usefulness of the tool and whether or not that tool/knowledge is used for constructive or destructive purpose.
Just my opinion...I could be wrong! (Hat tip to Dennis Miller)
What is the point of this? What idiot lights an alcohol stove and puts it against the fabric? Maybe your next video should be putting a candle next to your bedroom curtain and we can watch your house burn down. It would be more realistic.
@johnmonk66 That is the point, John. If you watch the video more closely, you'll see the hole begins above the stove, not the side. The flame is not touching the fabric. The heat builds up above the stove until the fabric begins to melt and a ignites.
Many people have wondered about silnylon because it is not flame retardant ,or treated with any chemicals that discourage burning. Unlike many commercial tents, which will go out once the flame is removed.
@brawny03 you do know an alcohol flame is invisible right? I can clearly see you put the stove an inch away from the fabric, and the flame is a lot more than an inch high. In fact after you lit it you pushed it right up against the tarp. It is not like the tarp maker said it is fire proof, so you are not proving anything here. Why don't you build a log cabin and try the same test, no one claims they are fireproof , just like the siltarp.
I've tried a candle and stove at different occasions under a tarp. Be sure to have enough space because heat can build up and melt the fabric, even when flames are not touching it.
The silnylon didn't rage into flames as quickly as some would think, so the test has its merits.
the warmest night sleep Wanna has had in a long time. lol i think this just goes to show how fast it can burn. Not so much a cooker set foolishly inside a tent ,but one that is too close by outside or a hot ember from a camp fire. the same could happen with a tarp. its just too easy to happen from not thinking.
I'm glad for this video. I never bring flame into my tent but I've always been curious how fast one would burn. I've seen matches ignite because of them rubbing together unintentionally. You can't predict every possible fire scenario.
Sorry, but what kind of bleeding moron puts a stove with an exposed flame in the low corner of a tent in the first place? I mean, bringing a stove into a tent invites a whole world of trouble to begin with, but then sticking it right under flammable material, that's just asking for it.
@brawny03 That seems like a lot of what ifs. Was the creation of this video in any way driven by some sort of personal experience with a tent burning down around you...?
In my experience, people too tired to stay awake while cooking, generally don't start with setting up a stove, they just have some GORP and pass out. =P
@digitalhawkeye No, hawkeye, it was driven by curiousity because so many people conjecture just how flamable silnylon is. Also, people don't always play it safe, and underestimate disasters.
I appreciate this video, it showed how flamable silnylon is, and while I won't be cooking in my tent anytime soon, it shows me how smart it is to keep fire well away form the tent or tarp. Thanks!
@walkj025 I fell asleep while cooking in an AT shelter, and I was even sitting up against the wall. It was after a 25 mile day, and I just didn't realize how tired I was until I woke up.
It is just a senario, hopefully no one has done it.
Sometimes a person might light a candle in their shelter. This was a test for silnylon, not a flame resistant fabric.
A person could knock it over and start a fire, and be awake. This test was just to see how fast silnylon would burn.
@brawny03 I suggest you use a Candle Lantern, it protects the candle in its metal and glass shell, and if it falls over, it won't start a fire. The problem is people do things out there they would never do at home, you would not light your stove and put it beside your kitchen curtains, nor would you light a candle and leave it next to your bed, you would put the candle on a metal dish, so if it fell over, nothing would happen.
i have no idea what the point of this video was. you burned a perfectly good tent to show it will indeed catch on fire for what? i think it was a pretty dumb idea but hey, thats just me.
@snowing247 Sorry you missed the point, snowing. A lot of ultralighters postulate just how flamable silnylon is. This demo shows that it is not nearly as combustable as previously thought. However, it does demonstrate that a hiker who falls asleep while cooking in a tent can wake up to flaming fabric.
This is my tent that I made and used for several years. It was not a perfectly good tent, and had a glorious demise for others to learn by.
@brawny03 Wait a second, this is a tent you made? So who made the siltarp? Old original siltarp and the siltarp sold today are two different things. You make it sound like all siltarp, ultralight tents will burn, but now we hear it is something you put together yourself? Made of old material, probably some kind of cheap siltarp imitation stuff to begin with.
Seriously, why? Almost everything melts or burns given enough heat. I'd much rather be under that tarp while it's on fire than be inside of a tent with a fly, fwiw.
Great video. I saw your tarp video where someone asked you about building a fire in the vestibule area. Well you sure showed why that would not be a good idea with this demo. Great job!
the whole world is flamable. what is the point? I am on a bed right now in a house that could burst into flames. I still cook in my house! use your brain when cooking.
Silnylon is different from other fabrics used to make tents. Other fabrics are flame retardant (flames will go out if flame source is removed). Silnylon will keep burning if flame source is removed. The video was done to illustrate the difference. THAT was the point.
I Love it, Corey! Thanks for the message, but hey, that tent was very small, only 13 ounces, 6 feet long, by 30 inches wide. It fit me ok, I'm 5 feet 2 inches. It got some use, had some small repairs from trail wear...so, not really as bad as it seems to test this Silnylon Flamability issue.
Great point for all who camp with the ultralight gear. I use canvas tarps, or heavy cordura...nothing against the UL crowd...just not my style. Always be aware of dangers, wild and inanimate...even mild burns can turn nasty when you are 3 hours from help.
@ArtisanTony. Tony, the point was to show us Ultra Light Backpackers what can happen to our Silicone Impregnated Nylon tarps/tarptents when they catch on fire.
You 40lb+ luggers' tents don't keep burning like that. Get educated before you make an ignorant (idiotic?) post.
lol, I love it when people say get educated first like your an expert. Most in the backpacking community would not call other ignorant or any other name so I am assuming your an asshole who has no experience.
This actually happened to a friend of mine. He put his tent downhill from the camp fire and a log rolled off the fire during the night and onto the tent. He made it out alive, but had severe burns
far from pointless! this is good vid, shame about tent!,but it just goes to show what could hapen,if ,like me, you like to smoke, you like a camp fire drink before bed!
Thanks Hobo. I appreciate all the comments, good and bad here. At least got people thinking about what amount of damage they are willing to risk for the convienence of cooking in their tent. My point in letting Wanda go up in flames is that she can catch fire herself, everything on her burnt: even if she woke up, fought the fire all her clothing is at risk, too. I am a minimalist, plenty of carbon credits in the bank!
You know, grizzly, I was surprised that it didnt burn faster, and so this video also shows that Silnylon doesn't burst into flames as some claim. No one would intentionally put a stove so close, but one could cook in their tent, or tarp, and the floor being unlevel, or slick, the stove could slide, or be knocked over....Its just a video!
@brawny03 i thought that at first too grizz. But, I know see that you could escape this with fairly minor injuries....should you not be drinking or injured. I'd just eat dry food...
Thank you for putting this up, very interesting to see!
I acutally would've expected worse than the video shows. Then again, it can be assumed more wind would dramatically increase the speed of the fire spreading.
Someone must have slipped Wanda some roofies for her to have slept through all that :)
Thanks for doing this test. I actually feel better about my Silnylon tarp. I figured it would go up quicker. Seems like it was fairly slow to catch, and took quite a while to burn completely.
Also, in a pinch, you could use a bit cut off your tent/tarp to help get a fire going in an emergency/hypothermia situation.
I am surprised it took 45 seconds to catch fire. I never cook in my tent. But I always wonder about fellow hikers who light cigarettes in the shelter of the door of the tent. What do you think? Dangerous?
From the time I struck the match to the stove, and the flame burst onto the tent was about 45 seconds. It sorta melted it first, then grew larger and burst into flame. I was surprised to, but actually, this is more dangerous cause at first you think all is well. I don't smoke....so, anyone else care to comment? I would be careful about smoking if you think you could fall asleep, for sure, inside your tent. I fall asleep quite quickly if I dare lay down, after a long day of hiking.
Always cook outside your tent! With sil/nylon, I even pitch my tent at least 25 yards or more from ANY flame. Thanks for showing the pitfalls of not following good trail sense! 5*! Peace.
This goes to show that the stove and any flame belong on the outside of any tent while out on the trail! Great demo and I assume this video cost you a little bit as well. Thanks for sharing this with us.
My pleasure, NCHiker. I made the tent used in the demo several years ago, and have hiked the Bartram and Foothills trail with it. It was getting some wear and tear, so it was not a new tent up in flames. I was very curious to see how the senario would unfold, and the fire falling on the face so quickly, in fact, probably the first wake up to a sleeping hiker, was striking!
Amazing demoastration!! That was extremely fast acting!! Just goes to show that Flames + interior of your tent + disaster. thanks this will save lives. 5/5 ED
Even if we were using a flame retardant tent, Wanda would have to wake up,with flaming fabric on her face, hair on fire, find and remove the flame from the tent. Notice that all of her clothingand sandals was consumed. Regardless of the tent fabric, this is medical emergency in the making. Other gear (down sleeping bag or jacket) inside the tent would exacerbate the issue. My position is that one should not cook in their tent.
Good point, Rainmaker. That would include candles!
no disagreement there. years ago, in the early 70s I worked with high voltage and cotton work clothes was the rule. while it still burns, it does not become sticky and adhere to the body.
Huh?
balloonboyCA 17 hours ago
Thanks for doeing this experiment and sharing.
Even if you do not cook in your tent, someone might make a fire nearby.
This vid shows exactly the thing most people, including myself, do not want to see.
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Even if you're careful (don't set your stove in the low corner of the tent, for example!), cooking inside a tent isn't worth the risk, unless you're at 20,000+ feet in the Himalayas, IMHO. I've cooked outside in a raging blizzard in the Cascades. I had to take my mitten off to stir the meal every few minutes and my hand started to go numb after 20 seconds, but I still managed to cook my dinner without getting frostbite (or burning down my tent). Moral: Laziness is dangerous.
epicsteve 1 month ago
wanda wake up!!!!!
echetlos 2 months ago
I've just found my new tinder!
Wiegieboard 3 months ago
why she didn´t pour some alcohol on the corner of the tent? .. who the fuck is so silly to put a burning or still hot stove IN the tent and right in the corner....
years ago i saw something like this. it was just a tea light candle wich wasn´t too near the igloo tent walls.. we sat by the campfire and first asked ourselfs why it´s so bright behind some other tent´s.. there was nobody in the tent and a friend of mine was still able to pull out his sleeping bag...
but a stove in the tent??
KoN312 3 months ago
So what's the point of this? That you'll be fine unless you're wasted or nodding out after shooting a bundle of heroin?
redphosphorus 3 months ago
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redphosphorus 3 months ago
For the next demonstration put the alcohol stove under the living room drapes.
hunt458 3 months ago
Nice tent?
That Wanda's a good sleeper!
I have learned from y'all that fire burns.
Thankd for your contribution!
joe25ification 3 months ago
People have been cooking in tents for 1,000's years, a percent do suffer injury or death. Some tents have a hole or a fireproof platform can be used. A stove can be set outside the zipper door, but under the vestibule. Camping is a survival challenge, a time to practice skills. You either do it carefully or earn a Darwin Award. People need to be aware of fuel spill, fumes, icy tents, fire and carbon monoxide.
borderraven 3 months ago
Wanda B a "screaming Alpha"?
But, who doesn't cook just outside the tent?
borderraven 3 months ago
@borderraven This is true, if a person had the stove sorta close, while they lay in the sleeping bag reaching out to cook, it could catch on fire, too. I am glad it doesnt burn up as fast as some might expect, but the damage could be severe.
brawny03 3 months ago
fire inside a tent has homer said duh!!!
wolfwind371 4 months ago
huh ... Now, I'm wonderring if silicon impregnation would (either) retard or accelerate the burn time and the tendancy to ignite.
phrankus2009 4 months ago
@phrankus2009 I used to sew custom backpacking gear, phrankus, and did a test on regular ripstop (non silicone) and this silnylon. I hung two squares of fabric on a clothes line, and proceeded to light them with a cig lighter. The regular, uncoated caught fire quicker, but both were blown out by the wind.
Theories abound how flamable silnylon is, and why its horrible for tents. I find it is safe, and my fabric of choice for all gear.
brawny03 4 months ago
@brawny03
The moral of the story? ... Don't build a fire on top of your tent and don't pitch your tent on top of a fire.
... Don't hang your hammock over a fire and don't build a fire in yer pantz.
phrankus2009 4 months ago 2
@phrankus2009 LOL, I love it! I can abide by those morals :D
brawny03 4 months ago
Think 4 year old with a loaded handgun. Knowledge without wisdom can be a deadly thing. Now that that's done...I wonder what the outcome if a sleeping bag beacame engulfed in flame with an occupant inside. The lack of smoke from the initial tent fire might make it possible for the bag to catch befor the sleeping camper awoke.
If you run another test., I'd like to volunteer my ex as the 'dummy'. Heck, she married me. That alone qualifies her.
ianrsigel 4 months ago
why did you waste a good tent?
jmikes1derboy 4 months ago
@jmikes1derboy Hi Jmikes, please read the rest of the comments, we've discussed this already
brawny03 4 months ago
um cook out side maybe?
redneckrollercoast1 4 months ago
Wanda would have to be dead before the tent burned in order to sleep through that. Call the homicide dept.
freewill51 4 months ago
@freewill51 good point, was that 911?
brawny03 4 months ago
A real survivalist would have used the bow and drill method.
dinnerandashow 6 months ago
at least the stove is ok
binolar 6 months ago
LOL
djSpinege 6 months ago
now come on now..... if anyone puts a fire in the corner of any tent should burn up. i would put this vedio in the tent along with the dumie that thought it up......
gpuckit 7 months ago
I wish you hadn't posted this, anyone stupid enough to try it is begging to be taken out of the gene pool.
benskin79 8 months ago
Wanda has nerves of steel, or is a really heavy sleeper. Backpacking all day can make you exhausted! I've had a bear messing around right next to my head & didn't wake up, but saw the prints & the scat in the morning. yikes!
HeadNtheClouds 10 months ago
Waste...
gcollin75 10 months ago
Huh, that honestly took way longer to burn then I thought it would.
1erikleif 11 months ago
@1erikleif Thats what I thought, Erikleif. It was a perfectly dry tent, too. If it were raining, I wonder? I've heard of people bringing their fuel bottles into the tent and then cooking...which could theoretically add fuel to the flames.
Knowledge is power.
brawny03 11 months ago
@brawny03
Knowledge is only a tool.
Real power is derived from wisdom and the courage to apply it to a particular circumstance..
The application of wisdom is what defines the usefulness of the tool and whether or not that tool/knowledge is used for constructive or destructive purpose.
Just my opinion...I could be wrong! (Hat tip to Dennis Miller)
ianrsigel 4 months ago
@ianrsigel Interesting reply, ianrsigel, I guess a person could know a ton of stuff and not be able to utilize it due to stupidity or fear.
Much conjecture over the years about the actual flamabilty of silnylon inspired this video. Its posted for your enjoyment, or disgust. Whatever.
brawny03 4 months ago
only a stupid women would cook in the tent.
hunterthelord 11 months ago
What is the point of this? What idiot lights an alcohol stove and puts it against the fabric? Maybe your next video should be putting a candle next to your bedroom curtain and we can watch your house burn down. It would be more realistic.
johnmonk66 1 year ago
@johnmonk66 That is the point, John. If you watch the video more closely, you'll see the hole begins above the stove, not the side. The flame is not touching the fabric. The heat builds up above the stove until the fabric begins to melt and a ignites.
Many people have wondered about silnylon because it is not flame retardant ,or treated with any chemicals that discourage burning. Unlike many commercial tents, which will go out once the flame is removed.
My backpacking gear is silnylon.
brawny03 1 year ago
@brawny03 you do know an alcohol flame is invisible right? I can clearly see you put the stove an inch away from the fabric, and the flame is a lot more than an inch high. In fact after you lit it you pushed it right up against the tarp. It is not like the tarp maker said it is fire proof, so you are not proving anything here. Why don't you build a log cabin and try the same test, no one claims they are fireproof , just like the siltarp.
johnmonk66 1 year ago
@johnmonk66 watch?v=V1rbl1IUJvc
ClanWMD 6 months ago
Just going to stand there and watch me burn...
accidentbear 1 year ago
I've tried a candle and stove at different occasions under a tarp. Be sure to have enough space because heat can build up and melt the fabric, even when flames are not touching it.
The silnylon didn't rage into flames as quickly as some would think, so the test has its merits.
brawny03 1 year ago
moral of the story - use a tarp.
webster619 1 year ago
Wanda RIP
MsSpy 1 year ago
@MsSpy :D
brawny03 1 year ago
The fire was inTENTS.
randomvideowatcher 1 year ago
If you did that same thing in your house, under the edge of the couch, the same thing would happen. So what am I supposed to learn from this video?
freewill51 1 year ago
@freewill51 How many people cook under their couch?
How many people have cooked in their tent?
If your couch catches on fire, will you have water to put it out?
If your tent catches on fire, might all your belongings be damaged at least partially?
lots of information
brawny03 1 year ago
the warmest night sleep Wanna has had in a long time. lol i think this just goes to show how fast it can burn. Not so much a cooker set foolishly inside a tent ,but one that is too close by outside or a hot ember from a camp fire. the same could happen with a tarp. its just too easy to happen from not thinking.
Woodoak5962 1 year ago
burned a perfectly good tent, stove, and pair of sandals. you can't hide money.
briargoatkilla 1 year ago
I'm glad for this video. I never bring flame into my tent but I've always been curious how fast one would burn. I've seen matches ignite because of them rubbing together unintentionally. You can't predict every possible fire scenario.
ThatDifferentDude 1 year ago
looke like he could have got out un hurt when the tent opened up lol
soulvengesurfer 1 year ago
read my thefemalesurvivalist.blogspot.com for more on why a person might cook in a tent
brawny03 1 year ago
Sorry, but what kind of bleeding moron puts a stove with an exposed flame in the low corner of a tent in the first place? I mean, bringing a stove into a tent invites a whole world of trouble to begin with, but then sticking it right under flammable material, that's just asking for it.
digitalhawkeye 1 year ago 11
@digitalhawkeye I'm glad this video has generated so much comment.
Silnylon is very slippery, and if you had a stove in there, and you weren't on perfectly level ground, it could slide into a disasterous position.
Also, in this scenario, the weary hiker falls asleep. Such a person could knock over a stove.
In small tents, the stove could also be nearer the wall than thought.
thanks for writing
brawny03 1 year ago
@brawny03 That seems like a lot of what ifs. Was the creation of this video in any way driven by some sort of personal experience with a tent burning down around you...?
In my experience, people too tired to stay awake while cooking, generally don't start with setting up a stove, they just have some GORP and pass out. =P
digitalhawkeye 1 year ago
@digitalhawkeye No, hawkeye, it was driven by curiousity because so many people conjecture just how flamable silnylon is. Also, people don't always play it safe, and underestimate disasters.
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brawny03 1 year ago
a chick that set up a tent, put a helpless doll in it and set it on fire. awesome
i'm totally in love right now haha :p
nephildevil 1 year ago
I appreciate this video, it showed how flamable silnylon is, and while I won't be cooking in my tent anytime soon, it shows me how smart it is to keep fire well away form the tent or tarp. Thanks!
Spikestrip55 1 year ago
WAAAANDAAA. NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
Tancrad 1 year ago
If anyone is dumb enough to try and cook in a tent,then they deserve to burn the hell up!!
myrook1 1 year ago
wow why dident you pull her out of the fire
firewoodguy2009 1 year ago
how do u start cooking in a tent then fall asleeep?
walkj025 1 year ago
@walkj025 I fell asleep while cooking in an AT shelter, and I was even sitting up against the wall. It was after a 25 mile day, and I just didn't realize how tired I was until I woke up.
It is just a senario, hopefully no one has done it.
Sometimes a person might light a candle in their shelter. This was a test for silnylon, not a flame resistant fabric.
A person could knock it over and start a fire, and be awake. This test was just to see how fast silnylon would burn.
brawny03 1 year ago
@brawny03 I suggest you use a Candle Lantern, it protects the candle in its metal and glass shell, and if it falls over, it won't start a fire. The problem is people do things out there they would never do at home, you would not light your stove and put it beside your kitchen curtains, nor would you light a candle and leave it next to your bed, you would put the candle on a metal dish, so if it fell over, nothing would happen.
johnmonk66 1 year ago
i have no idea what the point of this video was. you burned a perfectly good tent to show it will indeed catch on fire for what? i think it was a pretty dumb idea but hey, thats just me.
snowing247 1 year ago
@snowing247 Sorry you missed the point, snowing. A lot of ultralighters postulate just how flamable silnylon is. This demo shows that it is not nearly as combustable as previously thought. However, it does demonstrate that a hiker who falls asleep while cooking in a tent can wake up to flaming fabric.
This is my tent that I made and used for several years. It was not a perfectly good tent, and had a glorious demise for others to learn by.
I made others to replace it.
brawny03 1 year ago
@brawny03 Wait a second, this is a tent you made? So who made the siltarp? Old original siltarp and the siltarp sold today are two different things. You make it sound like all siltarp, ultralight tents will burn, but now we hear it is something you put together yourself? Made of old material, probably some kind of cheap siltarp imitation stuff to begin with.
johnmonk66 1 year ago
bad back packer
no crunch granola bars for you...
chena3 1 year ago
it burned for 10 minutes ... that's enough time to cook wieners, and roast marshmallows for dessert too.
athinkr 1 year ago
Did the boil-time decrease?
Is silnylon more efficient than de-natured alcohol?
loki1066 1 year ago 20
OMG! Fabric burns?
Seriously, why? Almost everything melts or burns given enough heat. I'd much rather be under that tarp while it's on fire than be inside of a tent with a fly, fwiw.
nmanhipot 1 year ago
Great video. I saw your tarp video where someone asked you about building a fire in the vestibule area. Well you sure showed why that would not be a good idea with this demo. Great job!
enjoythewildUSA 1 year ago
You're hilarious, targetbuttmonkey!
Yeah, I just wanted to see how much and how long she would burn. Amazed even the sandals burned to nothing.
People take whatever you want. Its a demo.
brawny03 1 year ago
huh? what? my tent caught fire while I was sleeping? well, ok. I'll just lay here for another ten minutes and burn with it.
targetbuttmonkey 1 year ago
This is like a PETA video :) aw the small animal is burning, haha
ArtisanTony 1 year ago
the whole world is flamable. what is the point? I am on a bed right now in a house that could burst into flames. I still cook in my house! use your brain when cooking.
freewill51 1 year ago
Silnylon is different from other fabrics used to make tents. Other fabrics are flame retardant (flames will go out if flame source is removed). Silnylon will keep burning if flame source is removed. The video was done to illustrate the difference. THAT was the point.
rainmakerat92 1 year ago
Thanks for taking the time to make the video. I thought you made a good point.
389Lee 1 year ago
I totally would have bought that tent from you lol Looked like a nice light weight set up! If you have more stuff to burn send me a message :P
Cheers
coreyfmiller 2 years ago
I Love it, Corey! Thanks for the message, but hey, that tent was very small, only 13 ounces, 6 feet long, by 30 inches wide. It fit me ok, I'm 5 feet 2 inches. It got some use, had some small repairs from trail wear...so, not really as bad as it seems to test this Silnylon Flamability issue.
You made my day!
brawny03 2 years ago
Very interesting. I think this is the first fire-on-a-tarp video I have seen.
Excellent demo. I give it a 4*. It will make us think twice about have a flame near our tarps.
BaseKampChef 2 years ago
Great point for all who camp with the ultralight gear. I use canvas tarps, or heavy cordura...nothing against the UL crowd...just not my style. Always be aware of dangers, wild and inanimate...even mild burns can turn nasty when you are 3 hours from help.
MrCableguyken 2 years ago
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ArtisanTony 2 years ago
Really sorry you missed the point Aritsan. Silnylon, an ultralight fabric is not flame retartant as are most tents.
Many people underestimate what a heat generated flame can do to ultralight fabrics.
A visual presentation which could save one injury, or loss of equipment is appreciated by most.
My website promotes long distance hiking, which I have done much of.
brawny03 2 years ago
@ArtisanTony. Tony, the point was to show us Ultra Light Backpackers what can happen to our Silicone Impregnated Nylon tarps/tarptents when they catch on fire.
You 40lb+ luggers' tents don't keep burning like that. Get educated before you make an ignorant (idiotic?) post.
knarfster 1 year ago
lol, I love it when people say get educated first like your an expert. Most in the backpacking community would not call other ignorant or any other name so I am assuming your an asshole who has no experience.
ArtisanTony 1 year ago
@ArtisanTony You are just mad because you know you are wrong, this was a good useful video for UL folks to see what can happen.
knarfster 1 year ago
I don't get mad I get even :)
UL? I don't think this is Underwriters Laboratory video :)
ArtisanTony 1 year ago
I also see you have no uploaded videos. Typical troll calling names with no evidence of experience to back it up.
ArtisanTony 1 year ago
Wanda looks nice and toasty warm.
meetcha2nite 2 years ago
This actually happened to a friend of mine. He put his tent downhill from the camp fire and a log rolled off the fire during the night and onto the tent. He made it out alive, but had severe burns
007380 2 years ago
Thanks for the heads up on that situation, 007380. I Appreciate all the comments that prevent injury and loss of gear.
brawny03 2 years ago
far from pointless! this is good vid, shame about tent!,but it just goes to show what could hapen,if ,like me, you like to smoke, you like a camp fire drink before bed!
hobo31009 2 years ago
Thanks Hobo. I appreciate all the comments, good and bad here. At least got people thinking about what amount of damage they are willing to risk for the convienence of cooking in their tent. My point in letting Wanda go up in flames is that she can catch fire herself, everything on her burnt: even if she woke up, fought the fire all her clothing is at risk, too. I am a minimalist, plenty of carbon credits in the bank!
brawny03 2 years ago
What a joke, this has been edited from 10 minutes, and who puts an alcohol stove an inch from the tent? I find this VERY misleading....
grizzy861 2 years ago
You know, grizzly, I was surprised that it didnt burn faster, and so this video also shows that Silnylon doesn't burst into flames as some claim. No one would intentionally put a stove so close, but one could cook in their tent, or tarp, and the floor being unlevel, or slick, the stove could slide, or be knocked over....Its just a video!
brawny03 2 years ago
@brawny03 i thought that at first too grizz. But, I know see that you could escape this with fairly minor injuries....should you not be drinking or injured. I'd just eat dry food...
TUNIQlifestyle 1 year ago
thanks for the video
troydeck 2 years ago
Poor wanda. Why didn't anyone save her?
jekylfoot 2 years ago
hahahahaha
hoschiman 2 years ago
what a waste ! i'd have paid for that Brawny tent !
i don't want my akto going up so i don't cook in it anyhow
sweetypie000 2 years ago 3
Good saftey lesson. Take this vid for the good it shows.
SurvivalWithBushcraft
SurvivalWithBushcraf 2 years ago
Why didn't she wake up when the hot fabric was falling on her and get out??? Did you drug her before you put her in the tent?
nismo812 2 years ago 16
I would have bought that tent!
carnax80 2 years ago
THE worst ever video I have ever had the misfortune to waste time on. Pointless rubish.
Guitar2040 2 years ago
THE worst ever video I have ever seen. Pointless.
Guitar2040 2 years ago
Wow..thanks for the post. This is also a good reason not to pitch a silnylon shelter downwind from a campfire.
djbarryiii 2 years ago
Excellent point about campsite selection, dj!
brawny03 2 years ago
Wanda is hot ! She needs to get more sun though, she is so pale.
Cragdwella 2 years ago 2
you no all that plastic to burn is really bad for the enviroment
but i get your point
chrissept21 2 years ago
My god! How morbid!
Seriously, though--an excellent and thoughtful consideration when camping. Thanks for providing this information.
kc7fys 2 years ago
did she die?
davz1992 2 years ago
Thank you for putting this up, very interesting to see!
I acutally would've expected worse than the video shows. Then again, it can be assumed more wind would dramatically increase the speed of the fire spreading.
nitrocubane 2 years ago
Gaaa! I hope you bought some carbon offsets :)
Someone must have slipped Wanda some roofies for her to have slept through all that :)
Thanks for doing this test. I actually feel better about my Silnylon tarp. I figured it would go up quicker. Seems like it was fairly slow to catch, and took quite a while to burn completely.
Also, in a pinch, you could use a bit cut off your tent/tarp to help get a fire going in an emergency/hypothermia situation.
vigunfighter 2 years ago
thx for your sacrifice.
dinnerandashow 2 years ago
I am surprised it took 45 seconds to catch fire. I never cook in my tent. But I always wonder about fellow hikers who light cigarettes in the shelter of the door of the tent. What do you think? Dangerous?
EconoChallenge 2 years ago
From the time I struck the match to the stove, and the flame burst onto the tent was about 45 seconds. It sorta melted it first, then grew larger and burst into flame. I was surprised to, but actually, this is more dangerous cause at first you think all is well. I don't smoke....so, anyone else care to comment? I would be careful about smoking if you think you could fall asleep, for sure, inside your tent. I fall asleep quite quickly if I dare lay down, after a long day of hiking.
brawny03 2 years ago
Always cook outside your tent! With sil/nylon, I even pitch my tent at least 25 yards or more from ANY flame. Thanks for showing the pitfalls of not following good trail sense! 5*! Peace.
TerraFirma369 2 years ago
This goes to show that the stove and any flame belong on the outside of any tent while out on the trail! Great demo and I assume this video cost you a little bit as well. Thanks for sharing this with us.
NCHiker1970 2 years ago
My pleasure, NCHiker. I made the tent used in the demo several years ago, and have hiked the Bartram and Foothills trail with it. It was getting some wear and tear, so it was not a new tent up in flames. I was very curious to see how the senario would unfold, and the fire falling on the face so quickly, in fact, probably the first wake up to a sleeping hiker, was striking!
I appreciate all the comments.
brawny03 2 years ago
Amazing demoastration!! That was extremely fast acting!! Just goes to show that Flames + interior of your tent + disaster. thanks this will save lives. 5/5 ED
wildlifeed 2 years ago
Great Demo Carol.
It was good for folks to see this. Kudos!!
Best case you have to carryout a charred tent.
I don't want to think about worse case.
I always keep alcohol stoves 20' away and camp fires 50" away just to be safe.
FriarTuck1961 2 years ago
Even if we were using a flame retardant tent, Wanda would have to wake up,with flaming fabric on her face, hair on fire, find and remove the flame from the tent. Notice that all of her clothingand sandals was consumed. Regardless of the tent fabric, this is medical emergency in the making. Other gear (down sleeping bag or jacket) inside the tent would exacerbate the issue. My position is that one should not cook in their tent.
Good point, Rainmaker. That would include candles!
brawny03 2 years ago
Can silnylon be treated to become flame resistant?
Bill
MrBillTroop73 2 years ago
interesting demo! helps make a case for heavier, less flamable fabrics in your kit?
4ancientarts 2 years ago
Well, actually it makes a case for NOT bringing a flame into your tent, regardless of the fabric.
rainmakerat92 2 years ago
no disagreement there. years ago, in the early 70s I worked with high voltage and cotton work clothes was the rule. while it still burns, it does not become sticky and adhere to the body.
4ancientarts 2 years ago