@AqeelTank Since when is being able to perform the same task a prerequisite for critiquing the same? Would you bash a movie critic for his poor review of a film because he himself had never directed a major production? Just juvenile, short-sighted logic.
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6:36 was -- in my opinion -- oe of the best parts... the music is so strong and emotional, and everyone playing showed great enthusiasm and it's easy to tell they were having a great time and felt appreciated AND appreciative for everything happening. Tan Dun was INCREDIBLE, and he (along with the orchestra) did a beautiful job and, I hope, will keep doing what they are doing here... I'm sure they will be known world-wide if they do! :D
I listened to them simultaneously and I have quite a musically trained ear, I muted one while the other played, there is the tiniest, if any, difference, they are different tempos at points, but there is not much difference between the two
I just listened to this version and the one by the LSO. Even to the untrained ear, you can tell the two apart. Unless I'm being fooled by acoustics and recording quality, the LSO has a noticeably more refined, polished sound than the YTSO. Then again, some may find that the fresh sound of the YTSO may actually fit the theme of this piece more.
.. oh and Tan Dun seems to have changed the ending slightly between the 2 performances.
@mykeBC Lol the Ending of this version is more intense and seems like a better way to end the piece, If I was Tan Dun, I would re-write the ending, Because a Fresh Orchestra + a Intense ending = a very amazing way and powerful way to end the piece. :)
@xXJawruWolfXx i agree. I personally prefer the ending done here.. but done with more of the precision of the LSO, especially with the mistimed cymbal. hehe. still it's a wonderful performance.. and definitely something to appreciate. :D
@mykeBC totally agree.. when I first heard this version about half a year ago I really thought it was crap... but I ran into the LSO version just days before and fell love with it...lol...
a bit irritating got bits of western... and i do not like the feel of a film score.. of a western.... just do not like it.. and too much percursion.... just not good enough..
Why is everyone Being idiots and saying crap like "percussion fail" and things like that? I like to see you conduct something like this being performed for Millions and possibly billions of people. This has to be possibly the most beautiful piece of music and most aggressive yet have the tenderness. So before opening your mouth think, can you write something compared to this or even conduct a orchestra? yeah, possibly not.
@xXJawruWolfXx I don't get your point. If he has SUCH a talent to conduct and compose as well he should not waste his talent on something uninspired like that.
@Simson616 So what, Music is music, If you don't like, then fine, you're are just missing out on the most amazing things that music can create, such as little mistakes like then ones in the performance. It still sounded amazing, regardless if a group of violins played a F natural instead of F#. Music is anything, regardless of the texture and clarity of it all.
@xXJawruWolfXx I did not talk about the intrumentalists and their skills - it's just that tan dun won a lot of big prices for his compositions and thus you could expect a big composition that does not only sound nice but also offers you some kind of deep experience, different layers of meaning and some new points of view on our tonal system in reference to the main topic of this symphony - but I can find nearly none of these aspects and thus I'm disappointed...
@Simson616 Why are we even arguing over this? I think it's good, you think it's bad. so what? We have two different views on music, So just drop it okay. Im done with it and im pretty sure you are to. so let's just go on with our lives and enjoy what music we THINK is good.
like for example: I'm a little fascist talking about what can be considered "good" and "bad" music.
or: I like trolling people on the internet - especially those who have no clue what they are actually talking about :) (in this case I should mention: I wrote a seminar paper for mah musicology studies about tan dun and that so called symphony above) and NO. as I am a troll I am definitely not done with it :D you're stupid ^^
that's because MTT is just acting, not conducting, especially in the few bars before 6:43 you can clearly see that he is only aware of the camaras focused on him.
To be honest ever since I watched this part of the concert whilst it was being broadcasted live here on YouTube, this piece always disappointed me. I mean out of any of the other pieces they could have played, this one was what made the YouTube Symphony what it was. Out of any of the other pieces, this is the one they should have known front and back, hence not screwing it up. London Symphony did it way better in my opinion. Bowing was off, timing was off. It's not a hard piece at all.
@JDBMW1: I had the entire score in front of me trying to figure out where they could have gone wrong. NO WHERE! Furthermore, this was one of the last pieces they played of the night, no way could you be nervous by this point.
that happens when they don't look at the conductor ;) come on they are not Professionals ;) they are nervous (or scared) and just staring at the sheets :) watch the LSO version :)
@indeedmediaCEO With all due respect, it doesn't matter if they are professional or not. yes maybe scared/nervous but that should be over within the first minute of playing. But i do agree with you with the staring at the sheets part.
@janoschii you gotta give them credit for trying something new...i mean, an online orchestra is so unique. HOWEVER, THE MUSIC WOULD BE MUCH BETTER IF IT WAS LED BY HANS ZIMMER!
Some of this remind me of something.... I don't know what. Certain notes here and there, like a thing in the back of your mind.
It is fantastic though, how he combined so many instruments, from different musical traditions, into one being. Much love, and I rather hope he does this for them again.
Personally I really like this piece. It's one of my favorites. :)
Isn't Tan Dun conducting his piece he composed? So the way they played is the way he told them to play. Unless when they first started they forgot everything he told them.
the harp in the beginning.... faskdjfhakdjshfkDSgak;sdjgak;hjg;wEGHl'AHg;ashfg;a
the guitar..... fs,gnsdkghds/lfhg/shfgdkahgdjsfh/lgjkhdij'laehtg' hoTHEO'GH'OEIRAHOY'IDHG'OHSTL'hsdfjha'iha'iohrh
the percussion.... ADLJGHOWIREJTRUY0W35'OJERTIORE;HSDHGLFKJGES0[RU0[W3U45Y6R;RSDGH;HSRIYHS;IYH;IDSFJHGSJDR;IYSR;DOISIHRIYHLYHSDFKHG;RHO;ISYHR;IOSYH;OIHORY;
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Wow...very not happy with how this turned out :( Our community Orchestra could have done better than that! Uhg! And the guitar sounded awful in the first half! It totally took away from the beauty of this piece! I'd comment about percussion but Everyone else has and I'd rather not beat a dead horse :P
The percussion isn't even in sync with the orchestra at all. Its as if it wanted to take control over the whole piece of music. It totally spoils the whole piece. Not sure if its being amplified, but the original one by the London symphony orchestra was much better. This is a great disappointment.
wow i was totally dissapointed when i heard this after hearing the LSO version. Whose idea was it to mike the percussion?! it made me cringe especially since i am a percussionist. that was awful. the toy piano, as cool as it is, it just doesnt fit does no one hear that?! the whole piece just sounded very unprofessional.
i don't like the guitar (toy piano?) at all it takes over the beautiful parts where the sections should be able to open and sing and the percussion is to loud. Other than that it is really nice especially the parts without the percussion
WOW what's that mini-piano? I personally love the version previously with LSO more.. This version is too much with the guitar and the timpani clouded everything.. what's happening to the percussion? Anyway I love the theme If he took Beethoven as teacher... should he use more standardized orchestral instruments? It has gone too far away from Beethoven.. BTW..just curious are the trumpeters using normal Bb turmpets or in other keys (in E maybe?) That' s a hard key form trumpet!
Hmmm, it seems like the audio is a bit messed up and unfocused. It sounds like the music is fighting a battle against the obnoxious clamoring of the percussion instead of using it for support
And this awful anyway, it doesn't matter which part of the population it aims, is a horrible kistch music full of cliches and horrible mistakes of orquestration. Beethoven would feel repulse of this kind of music, with no means, no message but consumption... Horrible music!!!
I don't deny that it horrible music, lol. At least the rest of the concert was good. And even if we can't create as good music now in this genre, the classics will live on forever. BTW, what do you think of Festal Scenes by Ito? I played Tenor Sax in that and found it enjoyable...
Could you tell me what orchestration mistakes were made specifically? I mean you are obviously a musical genius. I would really love to hear some of your work put out onto youtube so everyone else can see how great it is.. Really man it was meant to be a crowd pleaser and I think it accomplished that and I, a musician thought it was nice, however cliche it may be. But I would really love to hear what you say the specific orchestration mistakes were made. thanks!
before you get all hot and bothered I was just asking. I would love to hear some of your music is it on youtube??? And I would also appreciate it if you could tell me where exactly the mistakes are because I am a young(well college level) musician and I do not know too much about orchestration mistakes, and I was saying that I am sure the general public does not either.
The general public is who the music world relies on to support the composers. No one said you had to I would just like to know and hear! and the only reason I was a little agitated was because you completely attacked his work, I do not know how you would like it if someone did that to your on a public forum. Thanks!
@Simson616 You know what, you're right. Actually, Tan Dun is quite good at orchestration... That's why I have to delete my comment. Now I see the mistake in my words.
@EdiEllerymissing We have to be carefull 'bout what we like to call right or wrong. It often happens that people call things wrong which do just not fit into their cultural concept.
I think this song was purposefully aimed to people of all kinds not just musicians or art zealots, so they could capture a wider audience. Take a chill pill from a fellow musician.
@EdiEllerymissing Please call me when they publish your next masterpiece or when your next concert sells out. With criticisms like that, you must be sitting on some kinda talent. All music is necessary, even the mediums you have no aptitude to appreciate.
@EdiEllerymissing Truthfully I didn't like the song either. All I'm saying is that musicians make artistic strides in their own ways and should be allowed to do so without being undermined. Art is changing, not dying. Btw Lachenmann's "Schwankungen am Rand" is one of my favorites. To further solidify my point, Mozart or Beethoven would have considered using guitars in classical music blasphemy.
I have to respectfully disagree. While art is a subjective matter, this composition is very well written and performed (though pop sucks imo). The musicians had limited time to play and aren't professionals like the LSO. The "inserts of movie's music" was Tan Dun's homage to John Williams used at the 2008 Olympics China, so there's a reason for that.
I was at the Piano Texas Festival and several symphonic performances this year, the art of classical music is far from dying
@EdiEllerymissing how do you define art? there is no definition for art take a look at classial music there are different periods over the past 400 years art don't die, you die and your view of art is shit
@AznPandaFTW If that's true it would be nice. Send me your e-mail and I'll send you one of my works. I hope your orchestra is professional, cause it's not easy music.
I think of this piece the same way Boulez said of Verdi's music when interviewed by Joan Peyse: "Stupid, stupid, stupid!"
This kitsch... this crap... this trash is one of the worst things that has been penned in the 21st century, and is unfortunately paraded as art music. It is perhaps worse than bad film music. Tan Dun, you can do better. You have done better, with stuff like Death and Fire. Why must you give in and write this kitsch?
is there any way to get a hold of the sheet music for this piece? I know it was up during the audition period, but has been completely removed from the internet?
The main theme is nice, but repetitive. And the piece would've been about 5,000 times better without the extremely obnoxious percussion! And this is coming from a percussionist - the extra-loud brake drums sound like someone is constantly interrupting the music.
FUCK, I was expecting Beethoven and I find this. I dont say this is bad, but comparing to Beethoven IT IS VERY BAD
Adri58 1 week ago
5:46 What's the instrument this woman's playing? :s
KeLopezDOTCL 2 weeks ago
Escucho pero no ubico en donde esta la guitarra! Felicidades a todos!!!!
Nelmu 2 weeks ago
This crap is pretty cheesy, actually. Especially the main theme.
eysikal 1 month ago
@eysikal u say its cheesy well think bout it u try writing a song with over 10 instruments and then try to talk bout someone else
AqeelTank 4 weeks ago
@AqeelTank Since when is being able to perform the same task a prerequisite for critiquing the same? Would you bash a movie critic for his poor review of a film because he himself had never directed a major production? Just juvenile, short-sighted logic.
eysikal 3 weeks ago
That was great!
samdajellybeenie14 2 months ago
Decent, but it ain't exactly Beethoven's Eroica, that's for sure!
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I find it so cool to watch all the violin bows moving in sync. Awesome Performance! :D
cameronmd80 7 months ago 2
6:42 ????
soukpasith 7 months ago
I love the energy Tan Dun expresses in his conducting. Truly inspiring.
clonecaptain13 8 months ago
6:38 you can physically see the musicality pouring out of them.
intertwined1 8 months ago
5:30 OMG MINI PIANO WANT!!!!!!
nikamungus 9 months ago 3
WTF, So Boring and to bad orchestrated. :(
Filmscorerdhs1 9 months ago
This sych a good piece of music!
sandree7 10 months ago
I don't like the guitar playing along with the trumpet. I liked it more with trumpet only.
sandree7 10 months ago
how can you people out there not like this song. you BASS TURDS.
Mickymousee1 10 months ago
6:36 was -- in my opinion -- oe of the best parts... the music is so strong and emotional, and everyone playing showed great enthusiasm and it's easy to tell they were having a great time and felt appreciated AND appreciative for everything happening. Tan Dun was INCREDIBLE, and he (along with the orchestra) did a beautiful job and, I hope, will keep doing what they are doing here... I'm sure they will be known world-wide if they do! :D
verycute9 10 months ago
Can cheap taste be any more costly?
MusicaRicercata 10 months ago
borat 0:00 - 2:30
pivotiskool 11 months ago
@mykeBC
I listened to them simultaneously and I have quite a musically trained ear, I muted one while the other played, there is the tiniest, if any, difference, they are different tempos at points, but there is not much difference between the two
ericvolp 1 year ago
I just listened to this version and the one by the LSO. Even to the untrained ear, you can tell the two apart. Unless I'm being fooled by acoustics and recording quality, the LSO has a noticeably more refined, polished sound than the YTSO. Then again, some may find that the fresh sound of the YTSO may actually fit the theme of this piece more.
.. oh and Tan Dun seems to have changed the ending slightly between the 2 performances.
mykeBC 1 year ago
@mykeBC Lol the Ending of this version is more intense and seems like a better way to end the piece, If I was Tan Dun, I would re-write the ending, Because a Fresh Orchestra + a Intense ending = a very amazing way and powerful way to end the piece. :)
xXJawruWolfXx 1 year ago
@xXJawruWolfXx i agree. I personally prefer the ending done here.. but done with more of the precision of the LSO, especially with the mistimed cymbal. hehe. still it's a wonderful performance.. and definitely something to appreciate. :D
mykeBC 1 year ago
@mykeBC Woot! :D
xXJawruWolfXx 1 year ago
@mykeBC totally agree.. when I first heard this version about half a year ago I really thought it was crap... but I ran into the LSO version just days before and fell love with it...lol...
performer matters...
BenJiang311 11 months ago
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mykeBC 1 year ago
I do like it very much.....BRAVO
tanenghok 1 year ago
What the masterpiece and classical symphony. Excellent! No doubt about that.
ngaitom09 1 year ago 2
performance starts 2:30
thumbs up so people can skip the speech
musicwaver 1 year ago 70
A saw this live in munich and it was amazing... it's an awesome piece of music :)
92Whisper 1 year ago
@92Whisper
i saw it, too. so amazing! and tan dun has got a great personality
maurus20 1 year ago
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@92Whisper
i saw it, too. so amazing! and tan dun has got a great personality...
maurus20 1 year ago
OMG JACKIE CHAN
lv999iam 1 year ago
@lv999iam That was so uncalled for :\
xXJawruWolfXx 1 year ago
@xXJawruWolfXx XD
lv999iam 1 year ago
@lv999iam -sighs-
xXJawruWolfXx 1 year ago
@xXJawruWolfXx I'm just another mentally retarded person who likes being random, don't mind me.
lv999iam 1 year ago
the skinny girls nose looks wierd
Adambomb645 1 year ago
I agree with xXJawruWolf
Adambomb645 1 year ago
@Adambomb645 Thank you. :P
xXJawruWolfXx 1 year ago
a bit irritating got bits of western... and i do not like the feel of a film score.. of a western.... just do not like it.. and too much percursion.... just not good enough..
recorderfan 1 year ago
Cymbalist Fail 6:43
fungsiufung 1 year ago 2
I think this piece is really diverse, I like it a lot.
kalsikum 1 year ago
The violins sound so soft compared to that once percussionist ><
SinDaCode 1 year ago
5:21 lol is that a mini piano?! cool!
NathanaelXavier 1 year ago
@NathanaelXavier I think it's called a celeste.
MessengerForte 1 year ago
@MessengerForte cool thanks :)
NathanaelXavier 1 year ago
some beautiful parts others not
JOEdoesThings22 1 year ago
这个版本和London的那个比起来略怂啊....
scateu 1 year ago
The wonderful thing about art is that no ones taste is the same. I really like this piece...
pablito162 1 year ago
Why is everyone Being idiots and saying crap like "percussion fail" and things like that? I like to see you conduct something like this being performed for Millions and possibly billions of people. This has to be possibly the most beautiful piece of music and most aggressive yet have the tenderness. So before opening your mouth think, can you write something compared to this or even conduct a orchestra? yeah, possibly not.
xXJawruWolfXx 1 year ago 38
@xXJawruWolfXx I think it's because they weren't there, so they try to comfort themselves by finding every little mistake.
FlyBorray 1 year ago
@FlyBorray Apparently, either that or they can't appreciate music, No matter what it sounds like.
xXJawruWolfXx 1 year ago
@xXJawruWolfXx I don't get your point. If he has SUCH a talent to conduct and compose as well he should not waste his talent on something uninspired like that.
Simson616 7 months ago
@Simson616 So what, Music is music, If you don't like, then fine, you're are just missing out on the most amazing things that music can create, such as little mistakes like then ones in the performance. It still sounded amazing, regardless if a group of violins played a F natural instead of F#. Music is anything, regardless of the texture and clarity of it all.
xXJawruWolfXx 6 months ago
@xXJawruWolfXx I did not talk about the intrumentalists and their skills - it's just that tan dun won a lot of big prices for his compositions and thus you could expect a big composition that does not only sound nice but also offers you some kind of deep experience, different layers of meaning and some new points of view on our tonal system in reference to the main topic of this symphony - but I can find nearly none of these aspects and thus I'm disappointed...
Simson616 6 months ago
@Simson616 Why are we even arguing over this? I think it's good, you think it's bad. so what? We have two different views on music, So just drop it okay. Im done with it and im pretty sure you are to. so let's just go on with our lives and enjoy what music we THINK is good.
xXJawruWolfXx 2 months ago
@xXJawruWolfXx Well there are several reasons :D
like for example: I'm a little fascist talking about what can be considered "good" and "bad" music.
or: I like trolling people on the internet - especially those who have no clue what they are actually talking about :) (in this case I should mention: I wrote a seminar paper for mah musicology studies about tan dun and that so called symphony above) and NO. as I am a troll I am definitely not done with it :D you're stupid ^^
Simson616 2 months ago
6:45?something wrong?
noqerr 1 year ago
Crash Cymbal FAIL
6:43
Actually the whole precussion is a FAIL.
MozartJunior22 1 year ago
@MozartJunior22
that's because MTT is just acting, not conducting, especially in the few bars before 6:43 you can clearly see that he is only aware of the camaras focused on him.
bonajkukoj 1 year ago
@bonajkukoj It's Tan Dun conducting here.
MozartJunior22 1 year ago
@MozartJunior22
Yes, of course, it's him I meant.
MTT is quite a good conductor, and his Idea of the YTSO is great!
But I really don't like Tan Dun's style of composing and conducting
bonajkukoj 1 year ago
Is this the music for every award ceremony at the Beijing Olympic 2008? At least the main theme.
wikct2 1 year ago
I was there in person, AMAZING performance considering the time constraints and the assembly of musicians from all over the world.
Walkerion 1 year ago
Did the trumpet came a little late?
HectorJW2007 1 year ago
@HectorJW2007 no.... he came prematurely...
har har.
CowHoofOnAHotPlate 1 year ago
To be honest ever since I watched this part of the concert whilst it was being broadcasted live here on YouTube, this piece always disappointed me. I mean out of any of the other pieces they could have played, this one was what made the YouTube Symphony what it was. Out of any of the other pieces, this is the one they should have known front and back, hence not screwing it up. London Symphony did it way better in my opinion. Bowing was off, timing was off. It's not a hard piece at all.
JDBMW1 1 year ago 2
@JDBMW1: I had the entire score in front of me trying to figure out where they could have gone wrong. NO WHERE! Furthermore, this was one of the last pieces they played of the night, no way could you be nervous by this point.
JDBMW1 1 year ago 2
@JDBMW1 Yeah, it feels uncomfortable. LSO did a great job. They can sight read this stuff to recording standard
tommyk77 1 year ago
@JDBMW1 I completely agree. It was pretty off most of that piece, especially aroud 6:47 or so.
gooberwestern 1 year ago
3:50 trumpet on the far right is Sylar.
Milky111wtf 1 year ago
that happens when they don't look at the conductor ;) come on they are not Professionals ;) they are nervous (or scared) and just staring at the sheets :) watch the LSO version :)
indeedmediaCEO 1 year ago
@indeedmediaCEO With all due respect, it doesn't matter if they are professional or not. yes maybe scared/nervous but that should be over within the first minute of playing. But i do agree with you with the staring at the sheets part.
Mrmusicmaster88 1 year ago
Is it just me or is the whole thing not together and the time messed up!? People are late!!!
kotetsu131 1 year ago
FUCK YES!!!
neurosis20 1 year ago
BRAVO! BRAVO! that was fun :D:D
gthlvrmx 1 year ago
Percussions are too loud. when they play you can barely hear the violins.
MozartJunior22 1 year ago
I expected more. I dont like it.
janoschii 1 year ago 4
@janoschii you gotta give them credit for trying something new...i mean, an online orchestra is so unique. HOWEVER, THE MUSIC WOULD BE MUCH BETTER IF IT WAS LED BY HANS ZIMMER!
NathanaelXavier 1 year ago
For whatever reason, the wheel rims and brake disks seem really out of tune. Not the percussionists' fault though. Other than that this is awesome!
tenniscrazy2 2 years ago
Didn't like the Eb trumpeter, or the orchestration of the piece really, I'm afraid to say.
Haeronthegreat 2 years ago 3
@Haeronthegreat
Eb? You mean the C trumpet? It is rather strange that the other two are on Bb horns and the principle dude is on a C horn.
eysikal 1 month ago
BRAVISSIMO!!!!
cfcantavero 2 years ago 2
that was was amazing!!!! i really like it
sebas741 2 years ago
Buen video,
todezdo 2 years ago
powerful
uberbleachfan 2 years ago
POOOOF TREMENDA.
OndaCC 2 years ago
Finally! someone who can see Beethoven's greatness! permit me to call you my friend and join you in that toast!
sstuddert 2 years ago 2
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can't stop listening! Fantastic
DaphneVer 2 years ago
REYNALDO
Se siente como una pieza que entusiasma por los lados de la creacion del compositor...buena¡
eirgh 2 years ago
I like it. Especially the string section. :)
zach200888 2 years ago 2
GREEEEAT GREEEATTT GREAAATTT
SESZKA1986 2 years ago
That was a very interesting piece! I enjoyed that very much! I loved how all flavors of the orchestra were all used together. Excellent job!
mrsethmusicman 2 years ago
Honestly, all the other pieces on the program were better written than this one.
Tokkemon 2 years ago
Some of this remind me of something.... I don't know what. Certain notes here and there, like a thing in the back of your mind.
It is fantastic though, how he combined so many instruments, from different musical traditions, into one being. Much love, and I rather hope he does this for them again.
NethDugan 2 years ago
its awesome - i really love this piece
Ichneumon1980 2 years ago
Reading some of these keyboard musicians comments really make me sick! I love the percussion! It really makes me wanna jump out of my seat!
kokatoo 2 years ago
Personally I really like this piece. It's one of my favorites. :)
Isn't Tan Dun conducting his piece he composed? So the way they played is the way he told them to play. Unless when they first started they forgot everything he told them.
Oh well still love this piece. :D
EOsmentJBroFan 2 years ago
umm.......that is tan dun conducting....
heresmycardjoker 2 years ago
Yes, I know. I was expecting a yes answer to the question. thanks for commenting on my comment.
EOsmentJBroFan 2 years ago
FOR me i like the music.. heheheh i really enjoy it...
cutejan17 2 years ago
2:40
noriko97 2 years ago
thank you for the shortcut XD
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the harp in the beginning.... faskdjfhakdjshfkDSgak;sdjgak;hjg;wEGHl'AHg;ashfg;a
the guitar..... fs,gnsdkghds/lfhg/shfgdkahgdjsfh/lgjkhdij'laehtg' hoTHEO'GH'OEIRAHOY'IDHG'OHSTL'hsdfjha'iha'iohrh
the percussion.... ADLJGHOWIREJTRUY0W35'OJERTIORE;HSDHGLFKJGES0[RU0[W3U45Y6R;RSDGH;HSRIYHS;IYH;IDSFJHGSJDR;IYSR;DOISIHRIYHLYHSDFKHG;RHO;ISYHR;IOSYH;OIHORY;
oswaldiscute 2 years ago
The wheel things that had those arpeggio tunes weren't as good as the ones the LSO used.
ProfessorPiano 2 years ago
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Wow...very not happy with how this turned out :( Our community Orchestra could have done better than that! Uhg! And the guitar sounded awful in the first half! It totally took away from the beauty of this piece! I'd comment about percussion but Everyone else has and I'd rather not beat a dead horse :P
SnowBunnyLion 2 years ago
really? i haven't heard the LSO's version yet, but i love the percussion, huge focus on it in this piece
drumstyx6464 2 years ago
it was ok .. but i still like the LSO's version better.
yes the percussion is WAY to loud for this piece
butters22x 2 years ago 2
The percussion isn't even in sync with the orchestra at all. Its as if it wanted to take control over the whole piece of music. It totally spoils the whole piece. Not sure if its being amplified, but the original one by the London symphony orchestra was much better. This is a great disappointment.
KakashiHatake1509 2 years ago
wow i was totally dissapointed when i heard this after hearing the LSO version. Whose idea was it to mike the percussion?! it made me cringe especially since i am a percussionist. that was awful. the toy piano, as cool as it is, it just doesnt fit does no one hear that?! the whole piece just sounded very unprofessional.
txholdem95 2 years ago
wow that is awesome i love it
Leighthesim 2 years ago
It sounds as if the orchestra and percussion are fighting, and not even listening to each other...
Plokclop 2 years ago
yeah the clanging of the brakes are too much
BensenKwan 2 years ago
well for that i think you are correct
esselbert 2 years ago
i don't like the guitar (toy piano?) at all it takes over the beautiful parts where the sections should be able to open and sing and the percussion is to loud. Other than that it is really nice especially the parts without the percussion
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adenawittrocketf 2 years ago
Why the Performance of a piece by Antonin Dvorak played by YTSO cannot be watched?
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WiltonHathaway 2 years ago
Hmmm, it seems like the audio is a bit messed up and unfocused. It sounds like the music is fighting a battle against the obnoxious clamoring of the percussion instead of using it for support
ayuprnkcller 2 years ago
And this awful anyway, it doesn't matter which part of the population it aims, is a horrible kistch music full of cliches and horrible mistakes of orquestration. Beethoven would feel repulse of this kind of music, with no means, no message but consumption... Horrible music!!!
EdiEllerymissing 2 years ago
I don't deny that it horrible music, lol. At least the rest of the concert was good. And even if we can't create as good music now in this genre, the classics will live on forever. BTW, what do you think of Festal Scenes by Ito? I played Tenor Sax in that and found it enjoyable...
carlheanerd 2 years ago
Could you tell me what orchestration mistakes were made specifically? I mean you are obviously a musical genius. I would really love to hear some of your work put out onto youtube so everyone else can see how great it is.. Really man it was meant to be a crowd pleaser and I think it accomplished that and I, a musician thought it was nice, however cliche it may be. But I would really love to hear what you say the specific orchestration mistakes were made. thanks!
buckeyes0g 2 years ago
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EdiEllerymissing 2 years ago
before you get all hot and bothered I was just asking. I would love to hear some of your music is it on youtube??? And I would also appreciate it if you could tell me where exactly the mistakes are because I am a young(well college level) musician and I do not know too much about orchestration mistakes, and I was saying that I am sure the general public does not either.
buckeyes0g 2 years ago
The general public is who the music world relies on to support the composers. No one said you had to I would just like to know and hear! and the only reason I was a little agitated was because you completely attacked his work, I do not know how you would like it if someone did that to your on a public forum. Thanks!
buckeyes0g 2 years ago
@EdiEllerymissing There are no orchestration "mistakes". There are just ways of orchestrating that do not fit with your idea of a good orchestration.
anyway - the fact that you're into "contemporary" music makes me wonder if you did expect anything else than this from an internet(!) symphony...
Simson616 1 year ago
@Simson616 You know what, you're right. Actually, Tan Dun is quite good at orchestration... That's why I have to delete my comment. Now I see the mistake in my words.
EdiEllerymissing 1 year ago
@EdiEllerymissing We have to be carefull 'bout what we like to call right or wrong. It often happens that people call things wrong which do just not fit into their cultural concept.
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EdiEllerymissing 2 years ago 6
I think this song was purposefully aimed to people of all kinds not just musicians or art zealots, so they could capture a wider audience. Take a chill pill from a fellow musician.
carlheanerd 2 years ago
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buckeyes0g 2 years ago
@EdiEllerymissing Please call me when they publish your next masterpiece or when your next concert sells out. With criticisms like that, you must be sitting on some kinda talent. All music is necessary, even the mediums you have no aptitude to appreciate.
marchingeagle2011 1 year ago
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EdiEllerymissing 1 year ago
@EdiEllerymissing Truthfully I didn't like the song either. All I'm saying is that musicians make artistic strides in their own ways and should be allowed to do so without being undermined. Art is changing, not dying. Btw Lachenmann's "Schwankungen am Rand" is one of my favorites. To further solidify my point, Mozart or Beethoven would have considered using guitars in classical music blasphemy.
marchingeagle2011 1 year ago
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EdiEllerymissing 1 year ago
@EdiEllerymissing
I have to respectfully disagree. While art is a subjective matter, this composition is very well written and performed (though pop sucks imo). The musicians had limited time to play and aren't professionals like the LSO. The "inserts of movie's music" was Tan Dun's homage to John Williams used at the 2008 Olympics China, so there's a reason for that.
I was at the Piano Texas Festival and several symphonic performances this year, the art of classical music is far from dying
ScorpiusMusic 1 year ago 7
@EdiEllerymissing how do you define art? there is no definition for art take a look at classial music there are different periods over the past 400 years art don't die, you die and your view of art is shit
lyconthrop 1 year ago
@EdiEllerymissing can you even fucking compose a orchestra piece for babies? guess not, you should just go wear a traning bra
lyconthrop 1 year ago
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EdiEllerymissing 1 year ago
@EdiEllerymissing
Can you send me your work?
Perhaps I can get my orchestra here in California to play it.
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Message me.
AznPandaFTW 1 year ago
@AznPandaFTW If that's true it would be nice. Send me your e-mail and I'll send you one of my works. I hope your orchestra is professional, cause it's not easy music.
EdiEllerymissing 1 year ago
I think of this piece the same way Boulez said of Verdi's music when interviewed by Joan Peyse: "Stupid, stupid, stupid!"
This kitsch... this crap... this trash is one of the worst things that has been penned in the 21st century, and is unfortunately paraded as art music. It is perhaps worse than bad film music. Tan Dun, you can do better. You have done better, with stuff like Death and Fire. Why must you give in and write this kitsch?
DannyDaWriter 2 years ago
I love that master piece:) awesome=)
ymanganelli 2 years ago
amazing
aristobel 2 years ago
thoes arnt part of a syphany
chris7pooper 2 years ago
guitar?!?! percussion?!?!?!?!?!?
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darthsion71 2 years ago
i dont like the guitar playing through the trumpet
jonrellim 2 years ago
Bad cymbals part!
jeromesim 2 years ago
I notice it too, bad timing.
animorphis 2 years ago
it sounded more balenced live.... alot more
masterofexit 2 years ago
ahh this is so awesome!
they should do a youtube youth orchestra!
stephenband 2 years ago
5:20 mini piano?
lhlee888 2 years ago
is there any way to get a hold of the sheet music for this piece? I know it was up during the audition period, but has been completely removed from the internet?
wrw28405 2 years ago
William, is that your question??
MommyIma 2 years ago
excuse me, but do I know you?
wrw28405 2 years ago
lol the piano woman looked like she was typing on a keyboard. how cool!
amazing, obviously. tan dun conducts hilariously :)
at 3:23 or 3:24 was the guy going to play, and he stopped? was that a near mistake?
shirayuki75 2 years ago
he was just blowing in it to warm it up
votecornbread 2 years ago
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lyconthrop 2 years ago
oh ok. I just never seen that happen during a concert. i take my comment back.
shirayuki75 2 years ago
The main theme is nice, but repetitive. And the piece would've been about 5,000 times better without the extremely obnoxious percussion! And this is coming from a percussionist - the extra-loud brake drums sound like someone is constantly interrupting the music.
ATPrelax 2 years ago 11
I wonder if they overdid it when they mic'd the percussion...
kaikaichen 2 years ago
i really like this piece :]
facesonfire13 2 years ago 3
not as good as the LSO
abcusuk 2 years ago 4
Surely not :)
testmark1 2 years ago
Also the fact that the quality of the recording sucked!
Jrdkirksey 2 years ago 2
Plus the percussion equipment isnt as good as LSO. And they arent as professional. And they havent learned to balance!
Jrdkirksey 2 years ago
i bet you're worst jrdkirksey
lyconthrop 2 years ago 3