Yamaguchi-sensei demonstrates takedown with shoulderrotation

[adyaelo]

fake???!!



[IEKUKATAKA]

Karate is a martial art, not a sport. The JKA, JKS, AAKF, ISKF, SKI etc all pretend to be karate but do so under the certain knowledge that three events in Japanese history since Meiji forbid the teaching of true martial arts. Nakayama had to promise he would not do so with the JKA in order to even exist. In terms of karate, these people can not hold a candle to original karate simply because they have gone away from it. Study Okinawan karate, it is from the origin of karate. A JKA Life Member.

[mooseven]

@IEKUKATAKA Well, you say that, but a lot of Nakayama's students are/were fit, strong, tough guys. I don't know what "top secrets" are hidden from the JKA people, but I think people like Hirokazu Kanazawa, Mikio Yahara, Keinosuke Enoeda etc did just fine without them.

[IEKUKATAKA]

@mooseven What exactly is "just fine?" If it is athleticism, startling physical ability and flashy technique, yep, they do that well and have made a lot of money. If it is the transmission of karate, the teaching of a comprehensive martial art and the maintenance of their supposed teachers art, they failed miserably and intended to do so. Get involved, study history and what karate really is and you will see the same. Sit on your duff, do nothing but follow and be deluded, it is up to you.

[IEKUKATAKA]

@mooseven Let me give you a classic example. I know a gentleman that has a huge following and has had for decades. I know his history, he has never, ever been in a karate school a day in his life. He is athletic, developed his own so called karate syllabus and opened a school. He is popular and financially successful yet he is an absolute fraud for one reason alone, THE PUBLIC LARGELY DOES NOT KNOW WHAT KARATE REALLY IS, they only know what they see and in the west, it is largely junk, even UK.

[IEKUKATAKA]

@mooseven The JKA did much the same, they discarded their teachers karate and developed a tournament focused kicking and punching sport and milliions follow them BECAUSE THEY DO NOT KNOW WHAT KARATE REALLY IS. I am a JKA life member in Japan, I saw the contradictions, got invoved deeper in history and the syllabus of original karate and saw the truth. The people you named were taught by some of the people that taught me. My comments are for the objective that would want to know for their good.

[mooseven]

@IEKUKATAKA Can you give a concrete example of some things that were included in the original Okinawan karate but excluded from JKA karate to its detriment? You haven't been very specific in your criticisms.

[IEKUKATAKA]

@mooseven I do not have enough space to tell you everything the JKA has omitted and would need evem more to tell you what they have contrived that is not workable in combat. First, karate is a comprehensive martial art, comprehensive is a key when you want a reliable system. The following have been omitted completely are largely: a martial art approach (will it be reliable in combat), a natural approach (is the technique naturally derived, contrived motion breaks down under duress), see #2

[onthewingshot]

@IEKUKATAKA There ARE many other traditional shotokan and other original karate Schools/dojos out there. I am in the Island Karate Club in PEI, Canada, and we go through the katas, looking for other methods, hidden attacks throws, blocks. We do tournaments, but its your choice on what you want to learn.

[IEKUKATAKA]

@mooseven #2 realistic combative kata bunkai (they do not practice such at all), a combat tactical syllabus (all they have is tournament related and greatly lacking), a syllabus of konsetsu waza (joint use), a nage waza syllabus (throwing other than sweeping), a ne waza syllabus (ground fighting), tsukami yose, oshi (grabbing, pulling and pushing techniques), tai sabaki (managing body motion), comprehensive kuso (where and how the body is injured easily),

[IEKUKATAKA]

@mooseven #3 kokyu (breathing well under pressure). The following are contrived and ignorant regarding interpersonal engagement: hard blocking (doesn't work), kicking only from a distance (the fight or flight response of an amateur can dodge it, can you kick from two feet?), constant todome waza (not needed with kusho training), constant kime (many other ways to deliver power), some kick are absolute BS (ura mawashi geri, yoko geri kiage, a spinning ushiro geri

[IEKUKATAKA]

@mooseven #4 spinning ushiro geri (turn your back on an angry man, really?), haito (go ahead, hit a skull with that and see what happens), ura ken to the head (go ahead, you won't be in the fight long), punching to the head (be my guest) as kusho works both for you and against you and you never, never strike delibrately with a technique that hurts yourself, bone on bone is fundamentally stupid. In summary, the JKA is not a fighting science it is a tournament sport. More?

[IEKUKATAKA]

@mooseven The easiest thing I can tell you to do is to be objective regarding your assesment, study karate history and visit the dojo of George Andrews, he is in the UK. If you are stubbornly defensive, subjective and unwilling to see reality, you will not see the truth. If you are willing to look for your own good, your study is thorough you can not miss the truth. The JKA has a way of covering the truth and that is another story and more space needed. Good luck.

[Iaazathoth]

His instruction in all these videos is very good. I think what is disheartening is that some of these things should be understood by karateka without having to be explicitly shown.

To many in karate get caught up in textbook practice and don't connect the dots.

[Sheik06]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but this looks like an application of shuto-uke in kokotsu-dachi...

[rattus2025]

i see posts on here talking about shotokan, i thought that Yamaguchi was goju?

[laserkej]

No, this is sensei Takashi Yamaguchi who is a JKS 6th dan and doing shotokan.

Yamaguchi is a quite common japanese surname, so there is probably lots of them out there doing all kinds of karate

[rattus2025]

my bad,. must be like "smith" in the west

[MrMikeod]

wannabeebee, please,please post a video of you doing karate, mma, whatever so that we know that you are not just a negative u-tube hater. I can then compare you to your comments and yamaguchi sensei. Show us your expertise, dont just talk about it.

[jimmymoltesanti]

this looks allmost exactly lik a barai (sweep) we learn in jiu jitsu, accept performed in the opposite way it seems.

here it is done with the upper body , and your legs are what your opponent ''trips'' over it seems.

when we do it, the aim is to merely keep his upper body in place, as you step in realy deep and hard, allmost a kick.

this can literally turn him uside down.

it looks allmost 100 percent like the technique shown here, exept somehow things are reversed.

really cool.

[salstream]

well i did judo for many years.. and trained with some of the most high ranking japanese judoka ... and thought i was up to scratch with my grappling until i came across a japanese karate sensei who smiled when he hit me that was thirty one years ago and i think that is where i parted with my guts forever.. try grappling two or three smack heads then see if your grappling is up to scratch.... oss

[dagonlord32002]

karate is actually pretty good for take down especially at times when it gets messy in stand up with punches flying everywhere. Very good and effective leg sweeps

[sicmick112]

yup lyoto machida used this against many of his opponents in the UFC. effective technique

[kallileo]

Lyoto Machida does all the time

[twyztted]

awesome

[Buli0n]

nothing impressive, lame takedowns ;/

[Churchpwns]

Still useful, the video never said epic pwnage takedowns.

[SuperStarSeeley]

Thats a really quick and effective takedown!!!!!! Very cool and classy

[singhakabuttar]

i cant see wot all the fuss is about, that is a good shoulder takedown very applicable to street, very versatile too, an expertly explained.

[bossman9005]

that take down that alot of you call a beginner's technique and unimpressive can decide who wins and who loses in a fight....besides with or without that move im sure he can beat alot of us here.

[hssp900]

You need to ease back on the steroids big boy,

its affecting your judgment, yamaguchi would take you apart in under five seconds, by the way how many languages do you speak bonehead.

[MatCapper]

#once again, very impressed.

[Evil2Angel]

In the room he is traning they other thats is where i go to karate ^^ thats cool ^^

[Derukugi2]

Billardjay:

*You* are the grunting, unintellible foreigner here. Don`t know about your pajamas, and don`t care about them, either.

[thinthin1969]

There is no Karate in this movie. Just a slugging match.

[billiardjay]

What's so impressive about that?

[Derukugi2]

Train with him and come back, big guy.

I have. And I bet you haven`t.

[billiardjay]

I hate to break it to you, big guy, but the day is long gone that a grunting, unintelligible foreigner in oversized pajamas, making a spectacle of himself by pantomiming a beginner's technique for a bevy of sycophantic, self-deprecating zealots, will be considered impressive.

Laughable perhaps; impressive hardly.

I repeat my question: what's so impressive about that?

[Philmoscowitz]

we all find it impressive. so why don't you tell us what you think is impressive.

[wannabeebee]

Impressive would be trying this on a person with grappling skills and not on someone who only does bad karate punches

If the other guy grabbed hold of the instructer the instructer would be f#cked

Easy to demonstrate anything on none fighters

shotokan needs a kick up the ass

[mafiouso]

u dont know anything, a grappling person would get k.o before even touching Yamaguchi-sensei. thats that shotokan is all about

[wannabeebee]

Dude in shotokan kata their are some excellent grappling moves although I wouldnt expect shotokan types to know their own kata and your wrong dude.

Depends on the ability of the grappler

[mafiouso]

id like to see you grapple into a a yoko-geri or grab a shotokan fighter with out getting a hit... ye his just gonna stand there for you

[northside420]

fuk ufc chumps huh?

[charger089]

Yamaguchi sensei is always very impressive.