Consumers Coal Barons - The more we burn, the more we earn.

[deerslayer2446]

What about the waterfowl that use the airspace to go south? I dont want to see thousands of dead ducks and geese from the windmills in my fields or the lakes! You say and i quote,"I guess the middle and poor class can contiue to pay for cheap coal with their health care" I am sorry I am a poor blue collar guy who tries to feed my family, I wish I had the funding from the Sierra club to support me and my cause but I dont. I dont support public health care. I pay for my own with Blue Cross

[deerslayer2446]

I have friends in Elkton and Pigeon by the windmills. Have you been up there and experienced all the vibration caused by the windmills or the noise? The Scandia Corp wants to put all these windmills in Lake MI. What will the vibrations do to our fishery? The fish like Pike, Musky,Steelhead and Salmon who rely on detecting vibrations cause by there food. They use these to find there food!

[deerslayer2446]

But why would I want to look at thousands of windmills? When I look to my east at 6 a.m and the Sun is rising over my Farm or if I look to the west and watch the sun set behind the trees in my woods I dont want to see windmills! Now you are entitled to your opinions and I will respect yours, these ar mine. I am all for green energy but I dont believe we can do green energy without coal

[deerslayer2446]

Let me ask you. You dont want the plant due to it being dirty yet with you fighting this state of the art plant, you let older less efficient plants still run, making more pollution. And how long before wind and solar are affordable for the middle and poor class?

[leesprague]

Look up "wind in a bottle" in Iowa, there is a 238 MW underground compressed air facility that stores energy, Wind, Solar, Gas, whatever the source. Compressed Air has been used to store energy in many ways. I am sure you can think of a few yourself. I guess the middle and poor class can contiue to pay for cheap coal with their health care dollars.

[deerslayer2446]

My question for you is what are you going to do if it is calm wind and cloudy with rain? You need coal plants do be able to produce enough power for this state. Solar is to expensive as well as wind. you would have thousands of windmills in the air to do what the new plant can do. Look at all the jobs and money that this will produce in tax dollars for one of the poorest areas in the country.

[leesprague]

Thousands of Jobs will be created in putting up the thousands of windmills you refer to. Whats not to understand. Those windturbines have the added benefit of revitalizing the manufacturing sector of our economy.

[deerslayer2446]

Why dont you guys go after Dow Chemical Company in Midland too. They pollute the Titibawassee river and Saginaw River with Dioxin and also produce as much air pollutants as the plants, go after them!!

[leesprague]

We are on their case. You probably have not noticed some similar names fighting both of these environmental disasters. The difference is that we cas stop Consumers from screwing up MI.

[deerslayer2446]

Did you know that the grounds at the Karn site in a 2200 acre wildlife refuge with more Bald Eagle per square mile the the whole state! Thiink about that

[deerslayer2446]

You idiots dont realize how much money the new plant will bring to the area in tax money and jobs! Ya only 80 perminent jobs for the plant to operate. But what about all the contractors who will be needed to build the plant, steel companies around the country will have business, concrete plants will have business. Open your eyes and see that this new plant is not bad! If you put in dams for green energy you destroy animal habitat. Wind mills need trees removed, thus destroying habitate.

[leesprague]

Yeah it will be 5 years till they try and build it, if they can. Meanwhile, all of the wind and solar manufacturing jobs are going overseas. In detroit, we not only built the cars, we used them. building a coal plant is like building a giant 12 story horse barn on the day Henry Ford started manufacturing the Model T. Consumers is asking you to invest in an Edsel (dirty coal plant) while the rest of the world is gearing up to manufacture wind and solar. Something we should be doing n Michigan

[deerslayer2446]

YA so you green people dont realize that Bay City is one of the worst economic areas in the state. The new plant is 95% more efficient in emmissions then any other plant in the state, yet you want to protest the build so the other, older less efficient plants still opperate. Solar energy is to expensive for the middle class, must be nice to be rich and bitch about the plant so you can afford solar energy. C.E has 20 windmill generators in the thumb, but can only produce a max of 4.4 megawatts.

[MrPowerstrokeford]

whats bad about a coal fired power plant it brings cheap energy to your home so you can make more stupid videos. oh and it also creates jobs and generates money for your state and with this economy thats a good thing

[leesprague]

The only reason you can say it is cheap is because the health care costs, missing work/school days, subsidies and environmental clean up cost are not paid for by the coal industry. Cheap! I don't think so.

[duvallweb]

Just wondering where do you get your power from?? WHAT!!! Can't afford solar panels for your home? Did you know Consumers Energy is supplying more green energy than any other company in your state? You are obviously not Amish since you use a computer...I guess you are just a hypocrite and by your behavior in this video you are also morons.

[leesprague]

Thanks, Got a solar panel. Did you know that Consumers Energy is proposing the largest coal fired power plant in the State?

[duvallweb]

@leesprague

Yes I was aware Consumers Energy wants to build the biggest coal plant in MI. Did you know given new technology it would release little pollution compared to others and would give enough base load in the state to eliminate the worst polluting plants that were built in the

1950's?

[duvallweb]

@leesprague

By the way you said you have "A" solar panel?? What is that going to do for you? (Power your toaster.) It would take you dozens of panels and thousands of dollars to power your home...better hope its sunny.

[leesprague]

Gave up the toaster, what you have a four slicer with a bagle accessory?

[thomas87114]

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