Cults + LGATs Buyer Beware!

[Rivrrat77]

How do you feel about "Impact Training" that they conduct here in Bluffdale Utah? Hit me up with a message please.... am close to people involved in "Impact" and it appears that you can't get direct info about the program from them. There are some coworkers that have talked to me about it though and it has certainly been enlightening.

[lspoulin]

I just did the Landmark Forum and it is the worst experience of my life. I felt betrayal toward my friends. I felt violated. I realized the 3rd day where there logic was going and I've run out, and one of the guy there talked to me for an hour to convince me to go back.

[pjacob2010]

In my experience going their they all seemed like wide eyed robots

[mtnman2012]

A very helpful summary.

[Sophios]

Dude. Take it up with your parents. EST at 12 is pretty young. It would take a very mature 12 year old to deal well with it. judging from you at 42 I would surmise you were not that. again, this points more at your parents than at EST/LME. Once you forgive them you can move on. you are still whole perfect and complete.

[Anythingyouwant1000]

Forum begins:

Anything you want for yourself or your life is available out of your participation in the L F.

You can have any result for yourself or your life that you invent as a possibility AND ENROLL OTHERS in your having gotten.

Enrollment is causing a new possibility to be PRESENT FOR ANOTHER, such that they are touched, moved, and inspired by that possibility.

The results you get from the LF are a product of the possibilities you invent AND ENROLL OTHERS in your having gotten.

[devinedelilah]

this is so funny ! with landmark education you become at peace, not offended with other people bygots like this guy!!

that is just one of the minor advantage of landmark. it does produce results!!! but it depends on the person. it is not cult or scientology! or even religion. enough to be a witness of preist, rabbi, and imam popping on thier last day of the forum. they were all happy and it did harmonize with their faiths!

landmark just magnifies your soul to see who you are!

[PsychDoctorate]

Become at peace? I suggest you talk to some other graduates who did not experience the same thing. Oh, but most are quiteted because Landmark does not like critics. Magnifies the soul?  Talk about a delusion. Getting you closer to mania is what they are doing when you take a look at it from a psychological presure cooker perspective. its closer to being a cult than most would want to realize. Maybe not in a religious way, but most certainly in the way they "break" people! Get real!

[goneyellow]

Quack. This man is no expert on any of the subjects in which he speaks.

[PsychDoctorate]

Of course I am no expert, I am speaking from my personal experience regarding the organizations I was involved with. Does that make me a quack? Still it is interesting that you watch very few videos and mine just happend to be one you commented on? Coincidence, I think not, you seem to be more in line with the Landmark Trolls who are "astroturfing" their critics. Well sorry, I am not going to shut my mouth.

[gurutruth]

For a funny view of astroturfing by brainwashed zombies, do an internet search for: BoingBoing Werner Erhard - oddball stuff.

[bradbavarde]

Wow, thanks for your courage to post. These are chilling experiences to have gone through. I am still disturbed from my brush with the Landmark Forum last summer, I can't imagine what you've been through. I'm glad the word is getting out!!!

[PsychDoctorate]

Going through EST at 12 years of age was not something any young teen should have to experience in their life! The convoluted ways of thinking and the psychological abuse were rife. Things which I thought were normal for many years because I had no perspectives. Thanks to modern technology and some education regarding trauma, cognition and other areas of psychology (clinical) I was able to piece things together and see them for what they really are.

[Salsasabor2]

Wow man, you hit the nail right on the head! Thank you so much for posting this video. You are extremely eloquent and prima facie a very intelligent man.

[azuldeperu]

Orgy? Liar! U R dishonorable & a totally misguided victim. I get that u have rationalized not keeping your word regarding confidentiality, the simple truth is that u don't keep your word. Real men keep their word. I'm sure your grandfather did. Signed legal contracts came to pass because of pieces of sh*t like u. Why did u stay in such a "degrading" situation & finish just to complain later? You blame all including your parents but not yourself. U have no balls & your inflections & tone show it.

[PsychDoctorate]

Individuals like yourself like to place blame on the individual who was victimized this is not about confidentiality, this is deliberate secrecy, misinformation and manipulation. I will leave your comment up for more truly "rational" people to make sound judgements regarding your statements. Your argument is full of sophistry and you are being a cult appologist!

[bradbavarde]

azuldeperu, your comment reflects a personality whose level of thinking has not evolved much past the reptilion region of the brain. Your inability to understand the complexities of abuse at the hand of individuals in power coupled with group dynamics as well as your reactions, all illustrate the fight instinct of primitive man operating on a fear based mentality. I am sorry for the primary relationships around you if there are any.

[gurutruth]

PsychDoctorate is wise.

[recoverypsychologist]

What are your thoughts on Steve Hassan and licensed exit counselers (or deprogrammers)?

[PsychDoctorate]

We need good exit counselors. A psychotherapist with solid counseling skills and an understanding of meditation and brainwashing is a good start but they are the exception not the rule. Exit counselors specialize in an area which can be expanded to help those in abusive relationships but are not ready for therapy. Steve Hassan's work seems sound, but I think that there needs to be more time for both client and therapist. Its akin to working with PTSD sufferers.

[joyfaith7771]

Love this new video you have done. You are filled with conviction and passion. Nice to see you speaking out about these crazy cults that you were dragged into by your family. I only know of the Berkeley Psychic Institute but I am sure the other organizations you talked about were also based on Scientology. Scary