This video has logical fallacies. For example, when you say that what if God said there is no heaven or hell then would you commit murder? The thing is God has not said so. The question is invalid.
More importantly, I ask you, would you commit murder of a person who raped your wife and your daughter, and then beheaded them, and you knew there is no God, and you knew there is no court system/jail (the country is in chaos lets assume) and you are certain the murderer would run away?
@shadowsburnme Jimmies argument has logical fallacies. For example, when he says that if birds had no wings, then would they fly? The thing is, birds do have wings, therefore the question is invalid.
I see no logical fallacy here. (do you even know what those are?) I can easily answer the question "Yes, birds would not fly". If this was an invalid question, I would not be able to answer it. The question "What if...?" is perfectly valid.
I don't kill because of guilt and fear of retribution. But frankly there are a few people I hate so much it would give me some sort of pleasure if they were to die from some nasty illness or if someone else killed them.
Human beings evolved a tendency to want to live in harmony with their fellow man. The same is true of other social animals. For instance piranas never bite each other during a feeding frenzy.
@topperheartramada The tendency goes for humans outside my group. Cultural exchange beats conflict any day of the week. Humans fight each other and being religious doesn't stop that.
so if the thought of murder repulses you, may I ask do you eat meat? This video is quite sanctimonious. The reason people dont do certain actions is because it gives them neither pleasure nor helps them avoid pain. If murdering someone gave an individual pleasure or made them avoid pain they would do it. Simple. Not because they're good people. Good people dont exist.
Why do theists believe that atheists want to sin and kill anyway? It makes me suspect that there are a lot of homicidal christians out there who are barely hanging on to their sanity.
In today's society, having to kill to survive is very rare. I'm an atheist, but I have absolutely no desire to kill anybody. Even if I had to, and I probably would to save the lives of myself and my family, I would find it very hard to do. I don't know why theists assume that everyone would automatically have an urge to kill each other without a deity to tell them what to do. It's certainly not on my agenda.
OW! Oooh! Mmm! Wah! ROFL. To be honest, I have no issues with killing someone if I consider the kill just, if I thought I could get away with it. However, I thought this way when I was a Theist as well. As for the homeless man, I'd likely give what I could afford to and still survive more or less comfortably. Morals are crap unless you can fit them to the situation.
Sam Harris had a debate which adressed this issue against William Craig. Harris presented a great hypothesis for the existence of objective morality without the need for a God. \It would give moral relavatists & subjectavists a pause for thought. .. Just a suggestion, if you care.
I don't murder because I value life too much. And if I had to kill someone I knew to survive, I don' think I could do it. If people were to ponder over this meaning, the world would be a much better place: It is not about living forever, but living with yourself forever.
Most animal societies Dont just Kill each other for no reason ! they are mostly protective of their own species in order to preserve it. its registered in the genetic code, survival and preservation of the species. you don't see a wolf killing another for no reason at all, unless in a case of conflict... Humans are no different, it makes no sense to go on in a killing spree! unless in the case of serial killers, who are clinically suffering from psycho dissorders. its all in the genes.
We fashioned for ourselves a bubble that we live in. Fear, anger and unmet needs/desires can lead to unsavory human actions. Think about it: we live in a spoiled yet loose society. Under different (and highly adverse) circumstances, I (being like you) may choose to murder in order to guarantee my own survival. We live in an ideal world.., but change the world and your sense of "decency" may be the first thing to go. It takes obedience and character (not disgust) to overcome chaotic challenges
I dont want anyone to kill anyone, because if I have the right to kill someone, everyone has the right to kill me. I personally dont want to live in a world where i have to fear for every second of my life. Same with stealing...
You just said that everyone breaks the law and that everyone is good. How is that even possible? Anyone who lies, cheats, hates, lusts, etc. is just in much danger of hell as a murderer. Why does God have to be so strict? Well if you want to be with Him, He has to be strict because He is perfect. Is it possible to fulfill the law? No. If it is possible then why would God, who is all-knowing, sacrifice His Son for the punishment we all deserve? It would be useless if He wasn't our only hope.
@3434343434utubeguy And why do we deserve this punishment? Don't give me that adam and eve crap, there is no way I would ever believe that my child is doomed just because I told a lie when I was a kid. And guess what, that sacrifice was a crock of shit. He didn't die, did he? According to your beliefs, he was resurrected, and even knew that before he made this so-called noble sacrifice. Who the hell asked for it anyway?
@8698gil "A good tree can only produce good fruit and a bad tree can only produce bad fruit" is a common biblical principle you've probably heard a lot. To answer your question I have to mention Adam and Eve. They were good, then they rebelled against God, then they became bad. Their fruit, aka offspring, can thus only be bad. This is the sin nature. Sounds unfair right? God thinks so too. Why should we be punished for their mistakes? That's why he sent His son to save us.
@3434343434utubeguy But they weren't bad after the fruit, they must have been always bad. They were essentially the same persons before and after the fruit. (unless the fruit itself was "Sin" and in both cases, God created it for no apparent reason other than to tempt us) It is then safe to assume that we were always doomed as a creation. And if this is so, then any sin we have is unjustly thrown upon us by the same God who punishes us for it.
@lukipelaSOD Sin is an opposite. To be able to "go with someone" you also have to be able to "go against someone." Free will makes this possible. Again, it's not that God made sin rather than sin was inevitably made possible via the creation of free will. Everyone who is capable of making a decision can choose to either rebel or obey God. Hell is being sent away from God's presence. Life today is filled with hardships, but have you ever thought about how much worse it could be?
@8698gil As for why we deserve a punishment such as hell is up to interpretation. Some things though are automatic though. God is eternal and thus He is always living in "the now." Therefore, everything we do has an eternal effect. You ask why we deserve to be tortured forever? The fact of the matter is, if we aren't, then God is. Being a king, being our creator, and telling us what we can and cannot do from the beginning, it sounds to me that God does not deserve to be tortured.
@lukipelaSOD God cannot change who He is nor even if He could why would He for His own sake? God's nature itself is unchanging. Since He who is perfect wants to have a relationship with that which is imperfect, unless our imperfections are covered by perfection, then this can never be true.
@8698gil Jesus did die, but defeated death and rose again just like you said. There is no such thing as ceasing to exist in the Bible. When you die, your spirit is absent from the body and cannot return. Jesus' spirit, however, was able to do so because nothing is more powerful than the one who has the most power. Jesus has the most power because He is God manifested in Human form.
@lukipelaSOD Sin is rebellion. To rebel is to go against something else. Certain things automatically have opposites. For example, if you are standing in one place, there is a possibility that you could be standing in another place. God didn't create sin, rather sin was made possible through free will that He did create. The "blood of the lamb" aka Jesus' blood, covers the sins that were committed. It covers them successfully because it is perfect.
@lukipelaSOD God, who is perfect, wants to have a relationship with us, but imperfection cannot be met with perfection because that would make the perfection imperfect. That is why Jesus had to die.
@8698gil Perhaps it sounds silly and perhaps none of this information matters to you in the long run. What you have to understand though is that you can do and believe whatever you want to because of free will. No one can force you to believe anything. That's why Jesus wasn't on his knees begging people to join him. He just stated the facts and let people decide what to do from there. Modern Christians don't seem to grasp that fact. A warning is a warning, nothing else.
@3434343434utubeguy So God says: "You can believe whatever you want, but if you don't believe what I tell you too, I'm going to torture you forever." Not only that, but he is a terrible terrible communicator of what he actually wants from us. It sounds almost as if, this God is intentionally trying to put as many of us as possible in Hell.
@lukipelaSOD Free will gives you the option to either praise or insult God. God wants praise for what He has created; something that anyone would want for accomplishing something outstanding. Having a relationship with God gives Him the credit, love, and thanks that He deserves. The Bible clearly expresses this. Both love and beliefs cannot exist without free will so it's not so much that God says that you can believe whatever you want, rather than that's just how it is.
There must be something in this person's life that he KNOWS IS WRONG yet seeks to justify it by reducing all existence to the pantheon of Time, Space, Matter, Energy and Chance. Perhaps he seeks to employ his plaques on the wall to run other peoples lives. When there exists no God, man promptly and with Stalinist brutality fill that vacuum posthaste. "Why should I be paid a pittance teaching students when I could make more a fortune threatening business owners with fines and imprisonment."
My genes prevent me from murder. survival of my species. I might kill to protect my family much like an animal might kill a member of his species to protect his pack
Because I don't know who the people are who call the police on me for just sitting in the park reading a book, I don't own a gun, and I don't want to go to jail.
Why would I want to do that? It's just wrong! Ending the life of somepony else for no real reason! That's just SICK.
Why don't I murder those that I really, really hate?
Well, for many of them, I don't know where they live, so I CAN'T kill them. Then there's the consequences if I DID kill them. I do not want to be imprisoned and I am a terrible liar. Last, I'm not sure I could actually go through with unless THEY are, like, terrorists or rapists.
Humans are group animals. It would not make sense for us to murder part of our group. In, relative to population, rare occasions others do commit murder and they are punished by other members of the group. The same behavior, on a smaller scale, can be seen in other members of the great ape family. It most certainly is not due to religion that we have moral values... I mean the bible is full of murder, slave ownership, incest, rape, infanticide and genocide.
YOUR AN IDIOT WITH WORDS OF INTELLECT.... for heres the kicker "WE" do commit murders ALL THE FUCKING TIME. you want to know why "good" people dont commit murder, simple because ITS TOO HARD WITH NO REAL GAIN
@onofomi Well if no one committed murder would the word exist. The point of the video is not about weather or not bad people do bad things to other people, but weather a God has anything do to with it. The answer of course is NO. Since many prisoners are both Christians and murders, and I personally am neither one. Most people would not commit murder because the average person finds the concept repulsive.
@robtay1963 God has nothing to do with my morals. I find violence repulsive, it is ok in an entertainment medium and even then I don't just like violence for it's own sake but when it fits into the story line.
@robtay1963 well sir.. there is no such thing as tomorrow but the word still exist.. BECAUSE THOUGHTS ARE ALLOWED TO GO FURTHER THAN ACTION ITS JUST THE WAY OF LIFE
@onofomi Well the question about murder existing only meant that if no one committed them we would not have a name for them....As for your last statement it does not even address my point at all. that Only a handfull of people out of billions commit murder, sadly many more commit acts of violence in the name of there country or there religion. But again it does not take a book or a god to tell me that murder is wrong. I don't want those I love to die, and I don't want to cause others that pain
@onofomi Actually there are cultures and societies that thoughts go less than actions and "ITS JUST THE WAY OF LIFE". They 'experience tomorrow' and 'enter tomorrow' and have no word or thought of it.
So to them if there was no murder there would be no word for it.
Given the example of cultures who experience something yet don't have a word for it, we then have two factors: (experience) and (words for) the concept.
One could THEORETICALLY:
* experience the concept and have a word for it. => Proven.
* experience the concept and not have a word for it. => Proven
* not experience the concept and yet have a word for it.
* not experience the concept and not have a word for it. => Proven.
Considering that people exist who DO experience a concept yet DO NOT have a word for it, we have a steady and consistently-proven simple continuum. It becomes most logical that if one does not experience a concept then they cannot have a word for it.
AND this is continually proven with the existence and creation of neologisms. Words for new concepts are made exclusively by combining already-existing words and their concepts.
@onofomi Then I'll put this in terms that will make sense.
Every civilization has words that describe events or concepts they have experienced. Water, fire, tools, blood, even miracles.
And every civilization experiences events and concepts that they have no words for. Most societies use the same term for both Blue and Green, and even more use the same for Purple/Orange/Brown. Likewise some tribes don't use time at all.
But, for a fact, when there is no CONCEPT, a new word MUST BE MADE.
This means that there is no place for "no experience/ yes word" to exist coherently.
To support this, no society has past-tense that does not experience the passage of time. No place describes penguins unless they have experienced penguins. You never read about "televisions" or "robots" in Greek or Christian mythology,
All evidence, all logic, and all coherent thought demonstrates that there is no way to have a word for something you do not experience in some form.
@MAGIQCK Your brain forces you to make decisions such as typing a negative comment you want people to see,you love attention from people like me.Just like this video states our brains do every ting for us we just get to have a will to change these.
@solisvictor1991 Don't assume so much, Killing is natural. The social norms and punishments of getting rid of someone is quite rational. Do not forget, Humans are animals.
@ThatGuyWithHippyHair because most of society feels the same way and has took into account that someone might not think murder is wrong so society as a whole has enacted laws to prevent this from happening. we condem murderers because to most of us its sicckening and harmful to society.
Sure, murder may be repulsive to YOU, but what about the people out there who do not see anything disgusting about murder? How do you justify condemning them if the only reason you don't murder is that it is just your own opinion?
"How do you justify condemning them" Because it demonstrably weakens societal stability to have those willing to kill and who have shown to have no qualms in killing roam freely.
"if the only reason you don't murder" I use many ethical frameworks. Not just one.
"is that it is just your own opinion?" Both Social Contract theory and evolution provide sufficient for an answer as to why "don't murder" is reasonable in societies and NOT on "just [one's] own opinion".
@blackkakari Naiveté has nothing to do with this. In rare circumstances it might be possible that killing somebody is the most beneficial action. However, I don't think that anybody should have the right to determine when that's the case. It all comes back to the question, which type of society we want to live in.
@Zendrig So what you're saying is that no one has the right to defend themselves/their people if it means killing? That sounds pretty fucking naive to me. I suppose that if some psycho went on a mass shooting spree and you had the opportunity to kill him, you'd prefer to let him kill a massive amount of innocent people rather than end his life and save everyone else.
If that's what you honestly believe, then I hope you get locked in the looney bin where you belong, you demented fuck.
@blackkakari Way to put words in my mouth. You not only misrepresented my position but went out of your way to offend me in the rudest way possible.
Let me clarify, though, to cool you down: My statement did not apply to acts of self-defense (or the defense of others) in life-threatening situations, of course. I was thinking of a situation where the suspect is already in custody and a long-term decision has to be made.
@Zendrig It sure sounded like you were saying killing is wrong no matter what. But I did overreact and act like an asshole. And for that, I'm sorry. I'm just so sick of these idiots who believe in unwavering pacifism, thinking violence is NEVER the answer.
the one thing that prevents me from murdering is because its repulsive by nature. WHY is it repulsive? I dont know. Maybe its somthing in the breain....maybe mirror neurons....But i wouldnt be able to murder someone...that is replusive.....I have a natural impulse that prevents me from murdering someone......That impulse is hard to explain. I have thought of wanting to kill many times out of anger, but the physical action of it would be IMPOSSIBLE.
I don't murder because, it is a waste of my time and energy. It doesn't achieve a purpose. Would killing someone make my life better? Possibly. If i killed my boss and got away with it then i would get his job. But, my empathy and guilt would kill me emotionally. The social contract theory also well explains why you don't murder. In a society where every1 is equal and you murder some1, then logically you are subjected to the FEAR OF MURDER. It my logic that keeps me from murdering.
i don't commit murder because i can't, and because even though i am and animal i have gained enough self control to talk out my problems instead of going ballistic.
firstly, i have to have a reason worth going out of my way to plan it out and to try to evade police forces. that alone is pretty hard to come by. but i dont believe in god so the second half is irrrelevent.
I would not want to live in a society where people murdered other people freely because it would diminish over all human and social well being. Even if I could get away with such a crime with nobody knowing it would still feel like an injustice to the person killed. Interesting philosophical questions, but the answers are going to be completely based around our evolution as social creatures, and our desire to live in a safe society.
would you kill a cow ?but you do eat beef right so there is no problem in taking the life of a cow.in prehistoric tribes when everyone knew everyone else murderers and anti socials would be kicked out and left to fend for themselves (obviously they wouldn't make it) this allowed the selection of the genes of more peaceful and cooperative humans over more aggressive ones.we are descended from those humans which is why we are less violent than most apes.here i think is the origin our of morality.
@priyochatterjee1 I read somewhere that a cycle of aggressivity regulates populations: high populations = aggresive animals carving themselves big territories and kicking out the least aggressive, until the population gets so low you dont need the aggressive gene, etc. So my point is that in prehistoric times, the population was so small the aggressive gene was of no use, so thered be probably no killers. If there were theyd be the best hunters so wouldnt be kicked out.
@LDguillaume in monkey societies the most aggressive male is the leader all other aggressive males are either killed or exiled.however primitive humans didn't hunt aggressively like lions or tigers they hunted strategically in well coordinated groups using tools like spears and arrows.in such situations individuals who could not get along with the rest of the group or could not control their aggression would be considered as a liability because for humans hunting was a team effort.
I don't murder because I can empathize with what it would be like to be murdered and how awful it would be. I would never want to inflict pain upon someone such as that. It would haunt me. However, I would be able to do it in self defense and I think nothing is wrong with that. If someone was seriously threatening me, my loved ones, or even a person on the street, I would step in, and if it seemed there were no other choice, kill them to stop the from hurting others.
ummm... can you explain how all the soldiers/ assassins/ psychopaths commit murder? killing in a war zone isnt different than murdering? do these people, soldiers, payed assassins (ill leave out the mentally ill) dont have this something in their mind that prevents them from doing it, like all other people have? i think it is all in the how someone was raised and educated.. raise someone in a jungle and he will be killing without any consciousness. raise a "god"-fearing kid, and he wont..
@180TheDragon In that situation we are raised to have patriotic instincts which are "dominant" (in the Mendelian sense, ie. patriotis "covers up" morality) to morality in situations where the two are in conflict. Yet the real question is, do we look to means-based or ends-based moral philosophy?
i don't murder mainly because i am atheist. many people say that atheists are more likely to kill, but i wouldn't because i follow my 2 golden rules: 1. since i know there is no after life, i would feel terrible to end somebodies ONLY chance of existence/ cutting their ONE LIFE too short. And 2. would i like that to happen to me?
What keeps me from murdering people is the law, but if you piss me enough, nothing is stopping me from murder (i may have some type of personality disorder...so this deep thing in my brain either doesn't work, or isn't there.
I live in the American south, I have a god damn gun so I'd chase off the ponce in all scenarios (and possibly help the homeless guy, sure I have a $100 bill, but how do my finances look?)
i don't even think about murdering anyone, so the why of it for me can only be answered with 'what for?'
it's the same reason i don't do drugs, or steal or anything like that. i simply have no reason to. i see no good reason to do such things. but i'll tell you... if the only reason theists don't kill or rape or steal... is because they believe in god, then i don't wanna meet those people
oh, and i don't need to 'be rewarded' or threatened to do something for someone
0<55, they are mans laws,and mans laws as seen by God are,1 Corinthians 1:20, .Where [is] the wise? where [is] the scribe? where [is] the disputer of this world? hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world? God who is Jesus in the flesh does not imprison, and nether does not execute anyone, but the devil does, and that is what makes mans laws foolishness because the devil is foolish.1:31 God sees all that a human does,and sees your heart.
3:44, Leave God doing bad,and Satan says That man just left the wing of God,and now I can do what I want to his soul,and make him bitter toward God just like I am, and cause him to not be like the loving Jesus, and have him. I can prove sinful man can't keep Gods law. We can't let Satan do that to Jesus. Satan is the one who beats us up through men doing bad to men. 4:21,the one who gave it through the kindness of their heart expecting nothing in return.
2:51, whoever teaches eternity in hell is teaching the doctrines of devils in what they really wanted for all of us,and would have had it had God not protected the tree of life after the fall of man. Hell would be a burnt out sun, and then freezing. You don't murder because Jesus himself in spirit is in the humans Jesus died for,and to hurt them is hurting Jesus.4:53, you have the everlasting Love of God in you that passes all understanding. The one who saves souls is in you.
The law of God in the heart of a man keeps a human from murdering anyone. Hating whoever according to Gods is murderer . God can't have a hater in heaven when hate already produces murders in mortal human that die. Heaven is as certain as the eternal universe around us, and life we did not make. Kill in whatever way, and not have a change of heart truly repenting whoever will lose a gift of infinite value. loser soul will be ashes. That should make someone think twice about killing whoever.
well i wouldent kille a human unless me or my loved ones was in danger. i belive that we are animals clever animals . and further more who am i to murder somone ? unless from protection. its to simpel i would degrade my self as an human beeing.
There are plenty of brutal cruel scumbags I met who deserve to die, I wish I had the nerve and the heart to do it. Every time some lowlife rides by on his ugly loud Harley I want to blast his tattooed head clear off just for some peace and quiet.
IDK know if this is the sociopath coming out in me, but if I could get away with it I would have murdered several people by now... Like my exwifes baby daddy who though it'd be cool to lock my son in his bedroom for days while they slept off their meth highs...
There's too many ppl in the world as it is... sometimes when I feel the most awesome I can feel I can't help but wonder if I'd only be marginal if the population was 1/5 what it is now...
yeah, I wouldn't commit murder because I'm both lazy and a perfectionist. The only thing keeping me from becoming a homicidal maniac is the fact that every death would have to look like an accident that could not be traced back to me, and I really don't want to murder anyone that badly.
What a silly argument . What if I want to murder and I enjoy it then what? What if I like being a bad person then what? The only thing that will keep me is incentive for being good and punishment for being bad.
Supposing I was a bad person who loves to be bad then how could you help me if you appeal to my preference then ... you'll end up murdered.
Actually its better than that ... If you will not love your neighbor you will go to hell so not only are you expected to help but love him as well
@edgarnevis I don't believe in hell or love my neighbour (in fact, they annoy the heck outta me sometimes). I don't murder anyone 'cause it would be cruel of me to do so.
If I finish somebody off, they, from that point on, cease to exist. Every person they would meet; every action they would take; every day that they worked, every time that they laughed; every single moment of their future - all erased in a heartbeat
I do not murder because I have empathy towards other people. I would never want to cause the emotional pain that would result for the loved ones of the person who I have killed. I also feel that life is a one time amazing opportunity that everyone should have the right to use to the fullest extent and to rob another person of it is the most vile thing that can be done.
Well done! I am really enjoying your series & happy to stumble upon them. These videos might be easier to follow for the more "average" in intellect. (No offence intended whatsoever by that statement!)
I don't murder people because I'd rather not be murdered myself, so I assume other people wouldn't like to be murdered either. Getting murdered sucks, so yeah... I wouldn't murder anyone.
I don't have any compunctions against killing in self-defense or the defense of innocents, however.
Creationists may not commit one act of kindness without incentive, but they shouldn't reduce everyone to this closed-minded, pitiful, backward-thinking, ideal.
Doesn't modern peace and prosperity mean anything to you?
Doesn't protection and privacy mean anything to you?
Doesn't a world without "white trash", "gook", and "nigger" mean anything to you?
Because I have no desire to commit murder, no motive to kill anyone and violence isn't in my nature. Any vaguely intelligent, civilised human-being learns to respect the rights of his fellow man, even if they happen to disagree with him. Also, giving the homeless man $100 would not be an act of kindness - he'd probably spend it on drugs and alcohol. Buy him a meal or a coffee instead. Charity is about more than just dishing out money to make yourself feel good.
@Steve7508 It is not true that giving money to a homeless person is not an act of kindness. True there are people who would not use the money wisely so in those cases it is better to buy them food or something, but this is NOT always the case. I, myself have been homeless. I was homeless due to circumstances beyond my control, mainly, lack of money or support. I did have a job but it did not pay enough for even a small apartment, not even CLOSE! cont...
@Aprilshowersss I made about 100 dollars a week. Anyway, every penny that I could get my hands on was one step closer to clean cloths, bus fare, food, and such things so that I could keep up appearance and find a better paying job and well, survive.I got fired because my boss found out about my situation, nice eh? Anyway I was lucky to encounter a kind person willing to give me a bit of money to get me out of my situation. If they just bought me coffee I may still be on the streets.
@Aprilshowersss As a person who was trapped on the streets for a time I have GREAT empathy for others in that HORRIBLE NIGHTMARISH situation. I take care of myself now, I will always wake sure that my bills are payed and that I have a little savings, BUT If those things are true, and I see someone on the streets who could use the 20, 50, or 100 dollars bill in my pocket, they WILL have it!
I do this all the time and there are times when I only buy the person food because addicts are obvious.
@Aprilshowersss I don't know where you're from, but in the UK, there's a weekly magazine called the Big Issue sold by the homeless. I usually buy it from the same guy. It's better than them begging and it's actually a good magazine. I must've given him over £100 by now and with his other 'regulars' he makes just about enough to live on. I think that's a better way than just handing over a large sum of money in one go, which they'll be tempted to spend unwisely.
@Steve7508 This was in the USA. There was absolutely NO support for an 18 year old white female. Had I been pregnant or a minority I could have gotten welfare, but I did not qualify.
I now live in Canada, and recently faced homelessnes again, luckily I avoided it but I got close. Anyway while searching for options that I would have here if it DID happen I did discover the big issue. There is non here but, as a member or a welll known "interest group" as Ill just call it for now that is...
@Aprilshowersss starting to try to branch out into humanitarian interests, I am trying to find a way to empower local homeless. I have considered trying to get something like "The Big Issue" started here. Its a HUGE venture though so it will take TONS of planning, but if it can happen it would kick ass.
Anyway, as I said, I agree that not every homeless person will use the money wisely, and a lot of the time you can tell if a person is just going to go buy some crack or something...
@Aprilshowersss but it is not always the case and a lot of the time these are simply people who are down on their luck and need a boost.
What happened in my case was that after I lost my job I was still job hunting and needed food to survive, money to do laundry at the Laundromat and to travel and also to clean up for job interviews. Usually I would clean up by going to public restrooms and taking a sponge bath, but that NEVER equals what a shower can do for you...
@Aprilshowersss So the occasional night in a motel room and a hot shower in the morning were AMAZING moral and confidence boosters. You cant get those things when someone just buys you a free meal. anyway after I lost my job and was out of money a KIND stranger struck up a conversation with my one day and after hearing my story GAVE me 500 dollars! This was enough to free me to focus on job hunting and not just survival and keep me healthy and clean long enough to find a job...
@Aprilshowersss Don't just assume that every homeless person is an addict or will be unwise with money. There are obvious cases, and well, you know what to do in those cases, but, once in a while, try TALKING to a homeless person, see what they are about. They ARE just people and should NOT be stereotyped. Some of them would do GREAT with a nice chunk of change. If you are WILLING to part with money to save a life, try this approach once in a while.
@samthomasmusic Same. I'd postulate its a cultural thing, in that the society we've been raised in, one is expected to feel revulsion at the idea of anybody being murdered. However, our culture glorifies killing under certain circumstances, in that we are expected to feel respect for people who show the moral fibre to risk death for the sake of killing others (and I do; my dad, grandad, uncle and cousin were / are all RAF). So I think its more a 'dont kill people in friendly tribes' thing.
Too little space to fully explain -.- I'll try and keep it short: What prevents me from murdering is evolution. See it that way: You have a group of individuals which, together, have the best chances of survival. Now what would happen if one of these individuals starts killing others? The survival of the group (species) is threatened. Meaning that there has to be a mechanism that prevents me from killing in order for my species to survive. We know that mechanism as "morale".
Are we all just a bunch of survival machines? Why do we experience emotions such as love, joy and peace etc? Survival of the fittest right? In the process of evolution: Did the “survival machine” who was able to experience beauty, grief, etc. have a survival advantage over the “survival machine” that did not? What specifically were these survival advantages?
@zaccckk Actually yes, these emotions do give an advantage. Take motherly love for example, one of the strongest emotions there are. The simple reason for that is that an emotion like this makes the mother protect and take care of her child up to the point of selfdestruction. Why? Because this way the offspring (meaning the survival of the species) has better chances to survive. Emotions (as beautiful as they are) are nothing but evolutionary merits (and partially flaws)
Francis Crick, the Nobel Laureate well known as the co-discoverer of the DNA double-helix, has stated in his book Life Itself:
“An honest man, armed with all the knowledge available to us now, could only state that in some sense, the origin of life appears at the moment to be almost a miracle, so many are the conditions which would have had to have been satisfied to get it going.”
With advances in molecular biology over the last several decades, it has become increasingly clear to scientists that the divide in complexity separating the simplest and first occurring living thing (the cell) from non-living matter is so vast as to be unbridgeable by random processes.
Your premise about being a good person gets you into heaven, or being a bad person sends you to hell is WRONG! It's a Fallacy....The Bible says...."No one is Good, no, not one"! Therefore your act of goodness is NOT to get you into Heaven if you are a true Christian and know God's word! Time for you to go back to the drawing board!
@kgunjoem Where did the universe come from? Are you suggesting NOTHING existed eternally before SOMEthing (the universe) was created spontaneously for no reason?
@kgunjoem That is true. Therefore we must examine according to God's standard what qualifies us to go to heaven. Psalm 51:5 goes a step further to say that we are sinful simply by conception. It seems that by ourselves that morally either by thought, word, or deed we will not attain God's standard. The good news is that God never asks us to. He already took into consideration that we were incapable of saving ourselves because of the issue of sin so He pays the penalty for us so that by...
Also we don't murder people because we don't have a REASON to.
Our decisions are the result from a constant fight between different drives which have evolved over millions of years and can often be contradictory, but we have been priorized in order to live in society.
Different situations can change this hierarchy, so most people might be able to kill if they feel their lifes or their closest ones' are in immediate danger. Still, I feel killing wouldn't be the intended result of the fight.
This video has logical fallacies. For example, when you say that what if God said there is no heaven or hell then would you commit murder? The thing is God has not said so. The question is invalid.
More importantly, I ask you, would you commit murder of a person who raped your wife and your daughter, and then beheaded them, and you knew there is no God, and you knew there is no court system/jail (the country is in chaos lets assume) and you are certain the murderer would run away?
shadowsburnme 1 week ago
@shadowsburnme Jimmies argument has logical fallacies. For example, when he says that if birds had no wings, then would they fly? The thing is, birds do have wings, therefore the question is invalid.
I see no logical fallacy here. (do you even know what those are?) I can easily answer the question "Yes, birds would not fly". If this was an invalid question, I would not be able to answer it. The question "What if...?" is perfectly valid.
KeistasZmogelis 1 week ago
@KeistasZmogelis You are right, there is no logical fallacy in his argument, because his argument is actually a non-argument.
shadowsburnme 1 week ago
I don't kill because of guilt and fear of retribution. But frankly there are a few people I hate so much it would give me some sort of pleasure if they were to die from some nasty illness or if someone else killed them.
topperheartramada 1 week ago
Why don't I commit murder?
I like life enough to allow everyone the same chance to enjoy theirs.
micometer 2 weeks ago
If it wasn't for cops and jail, Donald Buttcheaks (Trump) would be my first choice.
Amashkitotamoes 3 weeks ago
Human beings evolved a tendency to want to live in harmony with their fellow man. The same is true of other social animals. For instance piranas never bite each other during a feeding frenzy.
Cainkane1 1 month ago
@Cainkane1 Ok, but what about non-fellow man, i.e. the member of a rival tribe?
topperheartramada 1 week ago
@topperheartramada The tendency goes for humans outside my group. Cultural exchange beats conflict any day of the week. Humans fight each other and being religious doesn't stop that.
Cainkane1 1 week ago
so if the thought of murder repulses you, may I ask do you eat meat? This video is quite sanctimonious. The reason people dont do certain actions is because it gives them neither pleasure nor helps them avoid pain. If murdering someone gave an individual pleasure or made them avoid pain they would do it. Simple. Not because they're good people. Good people dont exist.
littleshamblings 1 month ago
Why do theists believe that atheists want to sin and kill anyway? It makes me suspect that there are a lot of homicidal christians out there who are barely hanging on to their sanity.
8698gil 1 month ago
In today's society, having to kill to survive is very rare. I'm an atheist, but I have absolutely no desire to kill anybody. Even if I had to, and I probably would to save the lives of myself and my family, I would find it very hard to do. I don't know why theists assume that everyone would automatically have an urge to kill each other without a deity to tell them what to do. It's certainly not on my agenda.
8698gil 1 month ago
OW! Oooh! Mmm! Wah! ROFL. To be honest, I have no issues with killing someone if I consider the kill just, if I thought I could get away with it. However, I thought this way when I was a Theist as well. As for the homeless man, I'd likely give what I could afford to and still survive more or less comfortably. Morals are crap unless you can fit them to the situation.
skywize 1 month ago in playlist More videos from cdk007
Now I've lost it.
I know I can kill.
hanyuo 2 months ago
Sam Harris had a debate which adressed this issue against William Craig. Harris presented a great hypothesis for the existence of objective morality without the need for a God. \It would give moral relavatists & subjectavists a pause for thought. .. Just a suggestion, if you care.
MrLittletomdj 3 months ago
@MrLittletomdj can you give me the link of the vid ?
IvanderHaisley 2 months ago
@IvanderHaisley Be warned, Craig doesn't half start to waffle on by the end. watch?v=yqaHXKLRKzg
MrLittletomdj 2 months ago
@MrLittletomdj *relativists & subjectivists < were you pissed when you wrote that? IDIOT!!
MrLittletomdj 2 months ago
I don't murder because I'm not a jerk. It has nothing to do with religious myths.
ndrthrdr1 3 months ago
I don't murder because I value life too much. And if I had to kill someone I knew to survive, I don' think I could do it. If people were to ponder over this meaning, the world would be a much better place: It is not about living forever, but living with yourself forever.
pat5168 3 months ago
Most animal societies Dont just Kill each other for no reason ! they are mostly protective of their own species in order to preserve it. its registered in the genetic code, survival and preservation of the species. you don't see a wolf killing another for no reason at all, unless in a case of conflict... Humans are no different, it makes no sense to go on in a killing spree! unless in the case of serial killers, who are clinically suffering from psycho dissorders. its all in the genes.
dimshosta 3 months ago
We fashioned for ourselves a bubble that we live in. Fear, anger and unmet needs/desires can lead to unsavory human actions. Think about it: we live in a spoiled yet loose society. Under different (and highly adverse) circumstances, I (being like you) may choose to murder in order to guarantee my own survival. We live in an ideal world.., but change the world and your sense of "decency" may be the first thing to go. It takes obedience and character (not disgust) to overcome chaotic challenges
RAMPAR8TY 3 months ago
I dont want anyone to kill anyone, because if I have the right to kill someone, everyone has the right to kill me. I personally dont want to live in a world where i have to fear for every second of my life. Same with stealing...
GalliadII 3 months ago
Well it obviously is not god.
itchygonads 4 months ago
You just said that everyone breaks the law and that everyone is good. How is that even possible? Anyone who lies, cheats, hates, lusts, etc. is just in much danger of hell as a murderer. Why does God have to be so strict? Well if you want to be with Him, He has to be strict because He is perfect. Is it possible to fulfill the law? No. If it is possible then why would God, who is all-knowing, sacrifice His Son for the punishment we all deserve? It would be useless if He wasn't our only hope.
3434343434utubeguy 4 months ago in playlist More videos from cdk007
@3434343434utubeguy And why do we deserve this punishment? Don't give me that adam and eve crap, there is no way I would ever believe that my child is doomed just because I told a lie when I was a kid. And guess what, that sacrifice was a crock of shit. He didn't die, did he? According to your beliefs, he was resurrected, and even knew that before he made this so-called noble sacrifice. Who the hell asked for it anyway?
8698gil 1 month ago
@8698gil "A good tree can only produce good fruit and a bad tree can only produce bad fruit" is a common biblical principle you've probably heard a lot. To answer your question I have to mention Adam and Eve. They were good, then they rebelled against God, then they became bad. Their fruit, aka offspring, can thus only be bad. This is the sin nature. Sounds unfair right? God thinks so too. Why should we be punished for their mistakes? That's why he sent His son to save us.
3434343434utubeguy 1 month ago
@3434343434utubeguy But they weren't bad after the fruit, they must have been always bad. They were essentially the same persons before and after the fruit. (unless the fruit itself was "Sin" and in both cases, God created it for no apparent reason other than to tempt us) It is then safe to assume that we were always doomed as a creation. And if this is so, then any sin we have is unjustly thrown upon us by the same God who punishes us for it.
lukipelaSOD 1 month ago
@lukipelaSOD Sin is an opposite. To be able to "go with someone" you also have to be able to "go against someone." Free will makes this possible. Again, it's not that God made sin rather than sin was inevitably made possible via the creation of free will. Everyone who is capable of making a decision can choose to either rebel or obey God. Hell is being sent away from God's presence. Life today is filled with hardships, but have you ever thought about how much worse it could be?
3434343434utubeguy 1 month ago
@8698gil As for why we deserve a punishment such as hell is up to interpretation. Some things though are automatic though. God is eternal and thus He is always living in "the now." Therefore, everything we do has an eternal effect. You ask why we deserve to be tortured forever? The fact of the matter is, if we aren't, then God is. Being a king, being our creator, and telling us what we can and cannot do from the beginning, it sounds to me that God does not deserve to be tortured.
3434343434utubeguy 1 month ago
@3434343434utubeguy Why doesn't God just change the rules? He is God after all. There is no reason why God should have to suffer anything.
lukipelaSOD 1 month ago
@lukipelaSOD God cannot change who He is nor even if He could why would He for His own sake? God's nature itself is unchanging. Since He who is perfect wants to have a relationship with that which is imperfect, unless our imperfections are covered by perfection, then this can never be true.
3434343434utubeguy 1 month ago
@8698gil Jesus did die, but defeated death and rose again just like you said. There is no such thing as ceasing to exist in the Bible. When you die, your spirit is absent from the body and cannot return. Jesus' spirit, however, was able to do so because nothing is more powerful than the one who has the most power. Jesus has the most power because He is God manifested in Human form.
3434343434utubeguy 1 month ago
@3434343434utubeguy Jesus was God... So God sacrificed himself, to himself, to forgive all the sins that He created in the first place.
lukipelaSOD 1 month ago
@lukipelaSOD Sin is rebellion. To rebel is to go against something else. Certain things automatically have opposites. For example, if you are standing in one place, there is a possibility that you could be standing in another place. God didn't create sin, rather sin was made possible through free will that He did create. The "blood of the lamb" aka Jesus' blood, covers the sins that were committed. It covers them successfully because it is perfect.
3434343434utubeguy 1 month ago
@lukipelaSOD God, who is perfect, wants to have a relationship with us, but imperfection cannot be met with perfection because that would make the perfection imperfect. That is why Jesus had to die.
3434343434utubeguy 1 month ago
@8698gil Perhaps it sounds silly and perhaps none of this information matters to you in the long run. What you have to understand though is that you can do and believe whatever you want to because of free will. No one can force you to believe anything. That's why Jesus wasn't on his knees begging people to join him. He just stated the facts and let people decide what to do from there. Modern Christians don't seem to grasp that fact. A warning is a warning, nothing else.
3434343434utubeguy 1 month ago
@3434343434utubeguy So God says: "You can believe whatever you want, but if you don't believe what I tell you too, I'm going to torture you forever." Not only that, but he is a terrible terrible communicator of what he actually wants from us. It sounds almost as if, this God is intentionally trying to put as many of us as possible in Hell.
lukipelaSOD 1 month ago
@lukipelaSOD Free will gives you the option to either praise or insult God. God wants praise for what He has created; something that anyone would want for accomplishing something outstanding. Having a relationship with God gives Him the credit, love, and thanks that He deserves. The Bible clearly expresses this. Both love and beliefs cannot exist without free will so it's not so much that God says that you can believe whatever you want, rather than that's just how it is.
3434343434utubeguy 1 month ago
There must be something in this person's life that he KNOWS IS WRONG yet seeks to justify it by reducing all existence to the pantheon of Time, Space, Matter, Energy and Chance. Perhaps he seeks to employ his plaques on the wall to run other peoples lives. When there exists no God, man promptly and with Stalinist brutality fill that vacuum posthaste. "Why should I be paid a pittance teaching students when I could make more a fortune threatening business owners with fines and imprisonment."
525alive 4 months ago
The bible is one of the most violent and vengeful story ever created by man.
shagster1970 4 months ago
what's stopping me is I haven't hacked your address yet
inthepurelight 4 months ago
My genes prevent me from murder. survival of my species. I might kill to protect my family much like an animal might kill a member of his species to protect his pack
Xatasha6611 4 months ago
Because I don't know who the people are who call the police on me for just sitting in the park reading a book, I don't own a gun, and I don't want to go to jail.
Primalxbeast 4 months ago
THIRD OPTION TIME!
Let's assume I don't want to help the homeless man and the stranger is there to tell me I must or he beats me to a bloody pulp.
But I have a knife.
I KILL THAT BASTARD.
Then I take his wallet, give all the money in it (or only some of it, depending on how much is in there) to the homeless man and run the fuck away!
This is my preferred option.
theuncalledfor 4 months ago in playlist More videos from cdk007
Why don't I just randomly murder people?
Why would I want to do that? It's just wrong! Ending the life of somepony else for no real reason! That's just SICK.
Why don't I murder those that I really, really hate?
Well, for many of them, I don't know where they live, so I CAN'T kill them. Then there's the consequences if I DID kill them. I do not want to be imprisoned and I am a terrible liar. Last, I'm not sure I could actually go through with unless THEY are, like, terrorists or rapists.
theuncalledfor 4 months ago in playlist More videos from cdk007
Humans are group animals. It would not make sense for us to murder part of our group. In, relative to population, rare occasions others do commit murder and they are punished by other members of the group. The same behavior, on a smaller scale, can be seen in other members of the great ape family. It most certainly is not due to religion that we have moral values... I mean the bible is full of murder, slave ownership, incest, rape, infanticide and genocide.
AzumiRM 5 months ago
@AzumiRM i would give you a thumbs up if it were possible in this video
doombow666 5 months ago
YOUR AN IDIOT WITH WORDS OF INTELLECT.... for heres the kicker "WE" do commit murders ALL THE FUCKING TIME. you want to know why "good" people dont commit murder, simple because ITS TOO HARD WITH NO REAL GAIN
onofomi 5 months ago
@onofomi Well if no one committed murder would the word exist. The point of the video is not about weather or not bad people do bad things to other people, but weather a God has anything do to with it. The answer of course is NO. Since many prisoners are both Christians and murders, and I personally am neither one. Most people would not commit murder because the average person finds the concept repulsive.
robtay1963 4 months ago
@robtay1963 God has nothing to do with my morals. I find violence repulsive, it is ok in an entertainment medium and even then I don't just like violence for it's own sake but when it fits into the story line.
robtay1963 4 months ago
@robtay1963 well sir.. there is no such thing as tomorrow but the word still exist.. BECAUSE THOUGHTS ARE ALLOWED TO GO FURTHER THAN ACTION ITS JUST THE WAY OF LIFE
onofomi 4 months ago
@onofomi Well the question about murder existing only meant that if no one committed them we would not have a name for them....As for your last statement it does not even address my point at all. that Only a handfull of people out of billions commit murder, sadly many more commit acts of violence in the name of there country or there religion. But again it does not take a book or a god to tell me that murder is wrong. I don't want those I love to die, and I don't want to cause others that pain
robtay1963 4 months ago
@robtay1963 NO
onofomi 4 months ago
@onofomi Actually there are cultures and societies that thoughts go less than actions and "ITS JUST THE WAY OF LIFE". They 'experience tomorrow' and 'enter tomorrow' and have no word or thought of it.
So to them if there was no murder there would be no word for it.
onijester56 4 months ago
@onijester56 ok so am right lol
onofomi 4 months ago
@onofomi Actually it works against you.
Given the example of cultures who experience something yet don't have a word for it, we then have two factors: (experience) and (words for) the concept.
One could THEORETICALLY:
* experience the concept and have a word for it. => Proven.
* experience the concept and not have a word for it. => Proven
* not experience the concept and yet have a word for it.
* not experience the concept and not have a word for it. => Proven.
(cont)
onijester56 4 months ago
(cont)
Considering that people exist who DO experience a concept yet DO NOT have a word for it, we have a steady and consistently-proven simple continuum. It becomes most logical that if one does not experience a concept then they cannot have a word for it.
AND this is continually proven with the existence and creation of neologisms. Words for new concepts are made exclusively by combining already-existing words and their concepts.
onijester56 4 months ago
@onijester56 that makes no sense and you know it
onofomi 4 months ago
@onofomi Then I'll put this in terms that will make sense.
Every civilization has words that describe events or concepts they have experienced. Water, fire, tools, blood, even miracles.
And every civilization experiences events and concepts that they have no words for. Most societies use the same term for both Blue and Green, and even more use the same for Purple/Orange/Brown. Likewise some tribes don't use time at all.
But, for a fact, when there is no CONCEPT, a new word MUST BE MADE.
onijester56 4 months ago
(cont)
This means that there is no place for "no experience/ yes word" to exist coherently.
To support this, no society has past-tense that does not experience the passage of time. No place describes penguins unless they have experienced penguins. You never read about "televisions" or "robots" in Greek or Christian mythology,
All evidence, all logic, and all coherent thought demonstrates that there is no way to have a word for something you do not experience in some form.
onijester56 4 months ago
i wouldn't give my hundred dollars to the homeless guy i would buy him a five dollar foot long... SUBWAY SPONSOR!
ImmaDwarfKicker 5 months ago
Murder would be a breach of the unwriten social contract; I won't hurt you / you don't hurt me. I'll help you / you ( or someone else ) will help me.
rustytool100 5 months ago
who says I don't commit murder?
trueChaos23 5 months ago
@trueChaos23 Ooo, what a giveaway!
GoblinXXX 5 months ago
Not enough bullets.
For me, that's why.
shittyshoebastard 5 months ago
I don't murder coz I'm too much of a pussy.
TherionNLD 5 months ago
Good vid CDK
TheGODAcronym 5 months ago
this is the gayest shit i ever heard
MAGIQCK 5 months ago
@MAGIQCK Your brain forces you to make decisions such as typing a negative comment you want people to see,you love attention from people like me.Just like this video states our brains do every ting for us we just get to have a will to change these.
solisvictor1991 5 months ago
@solisvictor1991 Don't assume so much, Killing is natural. The social norms and punishments of getting rid of someone is quite rational. Do not forget, Humans are animals.
MAGIQCK 5 months ago
I'm an atheist and i think murder is repulsive. enough said.
FallofDarkness55 5 months ago
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because people can fight back and god
bigd5000100 5 months ago
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bigd5000100 5 months ago
Sounds like your justification for thinking murder is wrong is nothing more than a subjective opinion. Why do you condemn murderers, then?
ThatGuyWithHippyHair 5 months ago
@ThatGuyWithHippyHair because most of society feels the same way and has took into account that someone might not think murder is wrong so society as a whole has enacted laws to prevent this from happening. we condem murderers because to most of us its sicckening and harmful to society.
OFswag666 5 months ago
Sure, murder may be repulsive to YOU, but what about the people out there who do not see anything disgusting about murder? How do you justify condemning them if the only reason you don't murder is that it is just your own opinion?
ThatGuyWithHippyHair 5 months ago
@ThatGuyWithHippyHair
"How do you justify condemning them" Because it demonstrably weakens societal stability to have those willing to kill and who have shown to have no qualms in killing roam freely.
"if the only reason you don't murder" I use many ethical frameworks. Not just one.
"is that it is just your own opinion?" Both Social Contract theory and evolution provide sufficient for an answer as to why "don't murder" is reasonable in societies and NOT on "just [one's] own opinion".
onijester56 4 months ago
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i dont wanna be in jail for life
legofan370 6 months ago
To me every human life is an irreplaceable piece of art. Who am I to destroy it?
I'm not religious, btw.
Zendrig 6 months ago
@Zendrig Do you mean to say that there isn't ANYONE who deserves to die? I hope you're not that naive.
blackkakari 6 months ago
@blackkakari Naiveté has nothing to do with this. In rare circumstances it might be possible that killing somebody is the most beneficial action. However, I don't think that anybody should have the right to determine when that's the case. It all comes back to the question, which type of society we want to live in.
Zendrig 6 months ago
@Zendrig So what you're saying is that no one has the right to defend themselves/their people if it means killing? That sounds pretty fucking naive to me. I suppose that if some psycho went on a mass shooting spree and you had the opportunity to kill him, you'd prefer to let him kill a massive amount of innocent people rather than end his life and save everyone else.
If that's what you honestly believe, then I hope you get locked in the looney bin where you belong, you demented fuck.
blackkakari 6 months ago
@blackkakari Way to put words in my mouth. You not only misrepresented my position but went out of your way to offend me in the rudest way possible.
Let me clarify, though, to cool you down: My statement did not apply to acts of self-defense (or the defense of others) in life-threatening situations, of course. I was thinking of a situation where the suspect is already in custody and a long-term decision has to be made.
Zendrig 6 months ago
@Zendrig It sure sounded like you were saying killing is wrong no matter what. But I did overreact and act like an asshole. And for that, I'm sorry. I'm just so sick of these idiots who believe in unwavering pacifism, thinking violence is NEVER the answer.
blackkakari 6 months ago
the one thing that prevents me from murdering is because its repulsive by nature. WHY is it repulsive? I dont know. Maybe its somthing in the breain....maybe mirror neurons....But i wouldnt be able to murder someone...that is replusive.....I have a natural impulse that prevents me from murdering someone......That impulse is hard to explain. I have thought of wanting to kill many times out of anger, but the physical action of it would be IMPOSSIBLE.
soulteachings 6 months ago
@soulteachings What you're describing is empathy. It feels wrong because you can imagine how it would feel for them.
blackkakari 6 months ago
I don't murder because, it is a waste of my time and energy. It doesn't achieve a purpose. Would killing someone make my life better? Possibly. If i killed my boss and got away with it then i would get his job. But, my empathy and guilt would kill me emotionally. The social contract theory also well explains why you don't murder. In a society where every1 is equal and you murder some1, then logically you are subjected to the FEAR OF MURDER. It my logic that keeps me from murdering.
robobrain10000 6 months ago
i don't commit murder because i can't, and because even though i am and animal i have gained enough self control to talk out my problems instead of going ballistic.
appleorangebanana2 6 months ago
firstly, i have to have a reason worth going out of my way to plan it out and to try to evade police forces. that alone is pretty hard to come by. but i dont believe in god so the second half is irrrelevent.
666SPEED44DEMON666 6 months ago
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Exactly!! Thanks for planting the seeds of reason and common sense which, sadly, seems all too uncommon. I hope they germinate!!
Glennn7 7 months ago
Exactly!! Thanks for planting the seeds of reason and common sense which, sadly, seem all too uncommon. I hope they germinate!!
Glennn7 7 months ago
I would not want to live in a society where people murdered other people freely because it would diminish over all human and social well being. Even if I could get away with such a crime with nobody knowing it would still feel like an injustice to the person killed. Interesting philosophical questions, but the answers are going to be completely based around our evolution as social creatures, and our desire to live in a safe society.
RedPenguins01 7 months ago
i'm not givin some hobo my hard earned money he's probebly gone by drugs and thats where i already need it for
Moerakski 7 months ago
would you kill a cow ?but you do eat beef right so there is no problem in taking the life of a cow.in prehistoric tribes when everyone knew everyone else murderers and anti socials would be kicked out and left to fend for themselves (obviously they wouldn't make it) this allowed the selection of the genes of more peaceful and cooperative humans over more aggressive ones.we are descended from those humans which is why we are less violent than most apes.here i think is the origin our of morality.
priyochatterjee1 7 months ago
@priyochatterjee1 I read somewhere that a cycle of aggressivity regulates populations: high populations = aggresive animals carving themselves big territories and kicking out the least aggressive, until the population gets so low you dont need the aggressive gene, etc. So my point is that in prehistoric times, the population was so small the aggressive gene was of no use, so thered be probably no killers. If there were theyd be the best hunters so wouldnt be kicked out.
LDguillaume 6 months ago
@LDguillaume in monkey societies the most aggressive male is the leader all other aggressive males are either killed or exiled.however primitive humans didn't hunt aggressively like lions or tigers they hunted strategically in well coordinated groups using tools like spears and arrows.in such situations individuals who could not get along with the rest of the group or could not control their aggression would be considered as a liability because for humans hunting was a team effort.
priyochatterjee1 6 months ago
I don't murder because I can empathize with what it would be like to be murdered and how awful it would be. I would never want to inflict pain upon someone such as that. It would haunt me. However, I would be able to do it in self defense and I think nothing is wrong with that. If someone was seriously threatening me, my loved ones, or even a person on the street, I would step in, and if it seemed there were no other choice, kill them to stop the from hurting others.
Faithmaster 7 months ago
i dont murder people cause i dont want to be murdered myself.
maccaaccam99 7 months ago
Mostly Karma. I've learned my lesson.
seeqer66 7 months ago
WHY DO GOOD CAUSE ITS A COMMAND, CAUSE IN THIS CASE ONE IS COMPELED TO DO SO. RATHER DO GOOD CAUSE ITS GOOD NOT FOR BENEFITS LIKE HEAVEN.
amIgziabeherson 7 months ago
@amIgziabeherson All caps rarely bodes well and is unattractive.
Faithmaster 7 months ago
ummm... can you explain how all the soldiers/ assassins/ psychopaths commit murder? killing in a war zone isnt different than murdering? do these people, soldiers, payed assassins (ill leave out the mentally ill) dont have this something in their mind that prevents them from doing it, like all other people have? i think it is all in the how someone was raised and educated.. raise someone in a jungle and he will be killing without any consciousness. raise a "god"-fearing kid, and he wont..
180TheDragon 7 months ago
@180TheDragon In that situation we are raised to have patriotic instincts which are "dominant" (in the Mendelian sense, ie. patriotis "covers up" morality) to morality in situations where the two are in conflict. Yet the real question is, do we look to means-based or ends-based moral philosophy?
samthomasmusic 7 months ago
@samthomasmusic
Indeed (Personally am means-based: hoping to strike up a good debate)
SuperbusIntellegens 7 months ago
If you kill someone you can still go to heaven. You missed that point.
GumpyWolf 8 months ago
@GumpyWolf Assuming heavan is real. What if it's not? You missed that point.
AnimusSolis 8 months ago
@AnimusSolis you dont know everything, no one does.
GumpyWolf 8 months ago
@GumpyWolf I agree
AnimusSolis 8 months ago
Atheists say there is no such thing as true evil, nor true good, that values are simply relative, to each individu and circumst S,
TheWayandWordofLife 8 months ago
@TheWayandWordofLife What's true evil? Give me an example of an action.
If you say masturbation or homosexuality, I will be inclined to laugh at you. :P
jaieet 8 months ago
i don't murder mainly because i am atheist. many people say that atheists are more likely to kill, but i wouldn't because i follow my 2 golden rules: 1. since i know there is no after life, i would feel terrible to end somebodies ONLY chance of existence/ cutting their ONE LIFE too short. And 2. would i like that to happen to me?
MetalSkullFucker93 8 months ago
I don't murder because I love people to much
awakeningaletheia 8 months ago
What keeps me from murdering people is the law, but if you piss me enough, nothing is stopping me from murder (i may have some type of personality disorder...so this deep thing in my brain either doesn't work, or isn't there.
mogul50 8 months ago
I live in the American south, I have a god damn gun so I'd chase off the ponce in all scenarios (and possibly help the homeless guy, sure I have a $100 bill, but how do my finances look?)
hornylink 8 months ago
i don't even think about murdering anyone, so the why of it for me can only be answered with 'what for?'
it's the same reason i don't do drugs, or steal or anything like that. i simply have no reason to. i see no good reason to do such things. but i'll tell you... if the only reason theists don't kill or rape or steal... is because they believe in god, then i don't wanna meet those people
oh, and i don't need to 'be rewarded' or threatened to do something for someone
GodsArePeopleToo 8 months ago
0<55, they are mans laws,and mans laws as seen by God are,1 Corinthians 1:20, .Where [is] the wise? where [is] the scribe? where [is] the disputer of this world? hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world? God who is Jesus in the flesh does not imprison, and nether does not execute anyone, but the devil does, and that is what makes mans laws foolishness because the devil is foolish.1:31 God sees all that a human does,and sees your heart.
kobidobidog 8 months ago
3:44, Leave God doing bad,and Satan says That man just left the wing of God,and now I can do what I want to his soul,and make him bitter toward God just like I am, and cause him to not be like the loving Jesus, and have him. I can prove sinful man can't keep Gods law. We can't let Satan do that to Jesus. Satan is the one who beats us up through men doing bad to men. 4:21,the one who gave it through the kindness of their heart expecting nothing in return.
kobidobidog 8 months ago
2:51, whoever teaches eternity in hell is teaching the doctrines of devils in what they really wanted for all of us,and would have had it had God not protected the tree of life after the fall of man. Hell would be a burnt out sun, and then freezing. You don't murder because Jesus himself in spirit is in the humans Jesus died for,and to hurt them is hurting Jesus.4:53, you have the everlasting Love of God in you that passes all understanding. The one who saves souls is in you.
kobidobidog 8 months ago
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kobidobidog 8 months ago
The law of God in the heart of a man keeps a human from murdering anyone. Hating whoever according to Gods is murderer . God can't have a hater in heaven when hate already produces murders in mortal human that die. Heaven is as certain as the eternal universe around us, and life we did not make. Kill in whatever way, and not have a change of heart truly repenting whoever will lose a gift of infinite value. loser soul will be ashes. That should make someone think twice about killing whoever.
kobidobidog 8 months ago
well i wouldent kille a human unless me or my loved ones was in danger. i belive that we are animals clever animals . and further more who am i to murder somone ? unless from protection. its to simpel i would degrade my self as an human beeing.
academicroach 8 months ago
There are plenty of brutal cruel scumbags I met who deserve to die, I wish I had the nerve and the heart to do it. Every time some lowlife rides by on his ugly loud Harley I want to blast his tattooed head clear off just for some peace and quiet.
DawnOfTheDead991 8 months ago
IDK know if this is the sociopath coming out in me, but if I could get away with it I would have murdered several people by now... Like my exwifes baby daddy who though it'd be cool to lock my son in his bedroom for days while they slept off their meth highs...
There's too many ppl in the world as it is... sometimes when I feel the most awesome I can feel I can't help but wonder if I'd only be marginal if the population was 1/5 what it is now...
rickfocks 8 months ago
I hate murderer :((
earth dont like murderers ha! and god too! go to hell murderer 330 has been killed by murderer
wengneuda13 8 months ago
Why are there are only black people in hell?
WildcardHatesYou 8 months ago
@WildcardHatesYou Cause Mormonism's right. =P
jaieet 8 months ago
Oh, boy we can't thumb up comments.
MidgeyMe 9 months ago
yeah, I wouldn't commit murder because I'm both lazy and a perfectionist. The only thing keeping me from becoming a homicidal maniac is the fact that every death would have to look like an accident that could not be traced back to me, and I really don't want to murder anyone that badly.
gizald 9 months ago
This kid is a bloody disinformation jew.
jOWNZin22 9 months ago
What a silly argument . What if I want to murder and I enjoy it then what? What if I like being a bad person then what? The only thing that will keep me is incentive for being good and punishment for being bad.
Supposing I was a bad person who loves to be bad then how could you help me if you appeal to my preference then ... you'll end up murdered.
Actually its better than that ... If you will not love your neighbor you will go to hell so not only are you expected to help but love him as well
edgarnevis 9 months ago
@edgarnevis I don't believe in hell or love my neighbour (in fact, they annoy the heck outta me sometimes). I don't murder anyone 'cause it would be cruel of me to do so.
If I finish somebody off, they, from that point on, cease to exist. Every person they would meet; every action they would take; every day that they worked, every time that they laughed; every single moment of their future - all erased in a heartbeat
They'll never exist again. And that's horrible.
'sides-I've never felt the urge
jaieet 8 months ago
what is this little thing in your brain, that tells you not to commit murder? i don't think you've answered your own question...
xerreon2 9 months ago
I do not murder because I have empathy towards other people. I would never want to cause the emotional pain that would result for the loved ones of the person who I have killed. I also feel that life is a one time amazing opportunity that everyone should have the right to use to the fullest extent and to rob another person of it is the most vile thing that can be done.
Aprilshowersss 9 months ago
Thanks for the perspective of the Spiritually DEAD.
Howie47 9 months ago
Well done! I am really enjoying your series & happy to stumble upon them. These videos might be easier to follow for the more "average" in intellect. (No offence intended whatsoever by that statement!)
kauaifinn 9 months ago
I don't murder cuz I don't wanna go to Hell haha
ApollosPythia 9 months ago
I don't murder people because I'd rather not be murdered myself, so I assume other people wouldn't like to be murdered either. Getting murdered sucks, so yeah... I wouldn't murder anyone.
I don't have any compunctions against killing in self-defense or the defense of innocents, however.
syn010110 10 months ago
Creationists may not commit one act of kindness without incentive, but they shouldn't reduce everyone to this closed-minded, pitiful, backward-thinking, ideal.
Doesn't modern peace and prosperity mean anything to you?
Doesn't protection and privacy mean anything to you?
Doesn't a world without "white trash", "gook", and "nigger" mean anything to you?
Apparently not . . .
MunkyDrag0n 10 months ago
This is so inane it is beneath contempt .
MrNewkingjames 10 months ago
Because I have no desire to commit murder, no motive to kill anyone and violence isn't in my nature. Any vaguely intelligent, civilised human-being learns to respect the rights of his fellow man, even if they happen to disagree with him. Also, giving the homeless man $100 would not be an act of kindness - he'd probably spend it on drugs and alcohol. Buy him a meal or a coffee instead. Charity is about more than just dishing out money to make yourself feel good.
Steve7508 10 months ago
@Steve7508 It is not true that giving money to a homeless person is not an act of kindness. True there are people who would not use the money wisely so in those cases it is better to buy them food or something, but this is NOT always the case. I, myself have been homeless. I was homeless due to circumstances beyond my control, mainly, lack of money or support. I did have a job but it did not pay enough for even a small apartment, not even CLOSE! cont...
Aprilshowersss 9 months ago
@Aprilshowersss I made about 100 dollars a week. Anyway, every penny that I could get my hands on was one step closer to clean cloths, bus fare, food, and such things so that I could keep up appearance and find a better paying job and well, survive.I got fired because my boss found out about my situation, nice eh? Anyway I was lucky to encounter a kind person willing to give me a bit of money to get me out of my situation. If they just bought me coffee I may still be on the streets.
Aprilshowersss 9 months ago
@Aprilshowersss As a person who was trapped on the streets for a time I have GREAT empathy for others in that HORRIBLE NIGHTMARISH situation. I take care of myself now, I will always wake sure that my bills are payed and that I have a little savings, BUT If those things are true, and I see someone on the streets who could use the 20, 50, or 100 dollars bill in my pocket, they WILL have it!
I do this all the time and there are times when I only buy the person food because addicts are obvious.
Aprilshowersss 9 months ago
@Aprilshowersss I don't know where you're from, but in the UK, there's a weekly magazine called the Big Issue sold by the homeless. I usually buy it from the same guy. It's better than them begging and it's actually a good magazine. I must've given him over £100 by now and with his other 'regulars' he makes just about enough to live on. I think that's a better way than just handing over a large sum of money in one go, which they'll be tempted to spend unwisely.
Steve7508 9 months ago
@Steve7508 This was in the USA. There was absolutely NO support for an 18 year old white female. Had I been pregnant or a minority I could have gotten welfare, but I did not qualify.
I now live in Canada, and recently faced homelessnes again, luckily I avoided it but I got close. Anyway while searching for options that I would have here if it DID happen I did discover the big issue. There is non here but, as a member or a welll known "interest group" as Ill just call it for now that is...
Aprilshowersss 9 months ago
@Aprilshowersss starting to try to branch out into humanitarian interests, I am trying to find a way to empower local homeless. I have considered trying to get something like "The Big Issue" started here. Its a HUGE venture though so it will take TONS of planning, but if it can happen it would kick ass.
Anyway, as I said, I agree that not every homeless person will use the money wisely, and a lot of the time you can tell if a person is just going to go buy some crack or something...
Aprilshowersss 9 months ago
@Aprilshowersss but it is not always the case and a lot of the time these are simply people who are down on their luck and need a boost.
What happened in my case was that after I lost my job I was still job hunting and needed food to survive, money to do laundry at the Laundromat and to travel and also to clean up for job interviews. Usually I would clean up by going to public restrooms and taking a sponge bath, but that NEVER equals what a shower can do for you...
Aprilshowersss 9 months ago
@Aprilshowersss So the occasional night in a motel room and a hot shower in the morning were AMAZING moral and confidence boosters. You cant get those things when someone just buys you a free meal. anyway after I lost my job and was out of money a KIND stranger struck up a conversation with my one day and after hearing my story GAVE me 500 dollars! This was enough to free me to focus on job hunting and not just survival and keep me healthy and clean long enough to find a job...
Aprilshowersss 9 months ago
@Aprilshowersss Don't just assume that every homeless person is an addict or will be unwise with money. There are obvious cases, and well, you know what to do in those cases, but, once in a while, try TALKING to a homeless person, see what they are about. They ARE just people and should NOT be stereotyped. Some of them would do GREAT with a nice chunk of change. If you are WILLING to part with money to save a life, try this approach once in a while.
Aprilshowersss 9 months ago
fear....
XTakeruXx 10 months ago
I personally don't commit murder for the same reason you (cdk007) don't; I feel repulsed with the idea of killing another person.
samthomasmusic 10 months ago
@samthomasmusic Same. I'd postulate its a cultural thing, in that the society we've been raised in, one is expected to feel revulsion at the idea of anybody being murdered. However, our culture glorifies killing under certain circumstances, in that we are expected to feel respect for people who show the moral fibre to risk death for the sake of killing others (and I do; my dad, grandad, uncle and cousin were / are all RAF). So I think its more a 'dont kill people in friendly tribes' thing.
93tomb 10 months ago
1. I don't have a reason to kill somebody.
2. I wouldn't like to be killed without a (very good) reason, so I don't do that to others.
Mobin92 10 months ago
i would murder if i knew they were evil "like murdering the next hitler or something like that."
freddakiko 10 months ago
Too little space to fully explain -.- I'll try and keep it short: What prevents me from murdering is evolution. See it that way: You have a group of individuals which, together, have the best chances of survival. Now what would happen if one of these individuals starts killing others? The survival of the group (species) is threatened. Meaning that there has to be a mechanism that prevents me from killing in order for my species to survive. We know that mechanism as "morale".
Greetings ND
NervigesDings 10 months ago
I wouldn't commit murder just because I don't want to really kill anyone.
bftjosh 11 months ago
Are we all just a bunch of survival machines? Why do we experience emotions such as love, joy and peace etc? Survival of the fittest right? In the process of evolution: Did the “survival machine” who was able to experience beauty, grief, etc. have a survival advantage over the “survival machine” that did not? What specifically were these survival advantages?
zaccckk 11 months ago
@zaccckk
Is the northpole just snow and ice? Is there no magical home of Santa and his elves in the arctic?
esgietheqroue 10 months ago
@zaccckk Actually yes, these emotions do give an advantage. Take motherly love for example, one of the strongest emotions there are. The simple reason for that is that an emotion like this makes the mother protect and take care of her child up to the point of selfdestruction. Why? Because this way the offspring (meaning the survival of the species) has better chances to survive. Emotions (as beautiful as they are) are nothing but evolutionary merits (and partially flaws)
NervigesDings 10 months ago
Francis Crick, the Nobel Laureate well known as the co-discoverer of the DNA double-helix, has stated in his book Life Itself:
“An honest man, armed with all the knowledge available to us now, could only state that in some sense, the origin of life appears at the moment to be almost a miracle, so many are the conditions which would have had to have been satisfied to get it going.”
zaccckk 11 months ago
With advances in molecular biology over the last several decades, it has become increasingly clear to scientists that the divide in complexity separating the simplest and first occurring living thing (the cell) from non-living matter is so vast as to be unbridgeable by random processes.
zaccckk 11 months ago
Your premise about being a good person gets you into heaven, or being a bad person sends you to hell is WRONG! It's a Fallacy....The Bible says...."No one is Good, no, not one"! Therefore your act of goodness is NOT to get you into Heaven if you are a true Christian and know God's word! Time for you to go back to the drawing board!
kgunjoem 11 months ago
@kgunjoem Where did the universe come from? Are you suggesting NOTHING existed eternally before SOMEthing (the universe) was created spontaneously for no reason?
zaccckk 11 months ago
@zaccckk The universe came from GOD! so no i'm not saying that NOTHING EXISTED before SOMETHING!
kgunjoem 11 months ago
@kgunjoem Sorry I was trying to say that to someone else
zaccckk 11 months ago
@zaccckk np
kgunjoem 11 months ago
@kgunjoem That is true. Therefore we must examine according to God's standard what qualifies us to go to heaven. Psalm 51:5 goes a step further to say that we are sinful simply by conception. It seems that by ourselves that morally either by thought, word, or deed we will not attain God's standard. The good news is that God never asks us to. He already took into consideration that we were incapable of saving ourselves because of the issue of sin so He pays the penalty for us so that by...
joshandchem2009 10 months ago
@joshandchem2009 So, he's basically punishing himself? Is he into S/M?
Bunji2k6 9 months ago
Also we don't murder people because we don't have a REASON to.
Our decisions are the result from a constant fight between different drives which have evolved over millions of years and can often be contradictory, but we have been priorized in order to live in society.
Different situations can change this hierarchy, so most people might be able to kill if they feel their lifes or their closest ones' are in immediate danger. Still, I feel killing wouldn't be the intended result of the fight.
JennyFarlopez 11 months ago
This video made me want to blow my own brains out.
dirtydonki 11 months ago