Somali refugees flee to Kenya - 17 Oct 08

[desame12]

they should go back to somali and  take their problems there

[xalane008]

dude go easy on the bro just say buffalo ;) may be add soldier lol stolen from african taken to...........

[chocolaterice90]

Im not somali but Im a human being and this made me cry, I feel so bad for these people seriously I hope god helps them, all in my prayers ,

[TheAhmedmd]

i can see my 3 friends commenting about the life of Dadaab refugee camps.the life is horrible.

[Thutmosis7]

We have to pray 4 our brothers and sisters of somalian descent. All the african in diaspora need to put in to help them.

[TheJetli04]

we need help them now 

[nigouer]

niggers muslims are the essential cancer of the world

[Falisia11]

@nigouer white infidels r the HIV of the world,, but soon we will find a cure by slaughtering u all.. very sooon

[CushiticSomalianMale]

@nigouer

no its the nigerian christians that are what you describe, you little hypocrit nuthead, did you forget that that Norway bomber and murderer was a Christian terrorist a.k.a Crusader... not a muslim= a.k.a believer.... so keep beeing a hypocrit because the world aint as dumb as u think u Fool! haha

[samana1fromsomalia]

Hawiye's stop this madness.

[qwedsaq12]

Behind every darkness there is a light

[somforlife]

no suga

[zettebda]

WOW! i JUST DOn't get it. You have black people in America dealing with trash of the white people, then you have African's in the Mother Land hating one an other, it makes no sense. Kenya has opened up there gates to allow you to come in, and all some Somalians can think about is how ugly they are. This world is sick, and its time for people to wake up and love one another. Ugh! Pure Trash!

[zettebda]

Yah save our people, in Yahoshua's name AMEN!

[monday19881]

Kenya should treated this people with all the respected adn stop benefit from them , since the land belong to somalian people.. with all respect to my follow kenya brother...

hope and future bride for somalian.

[Str8outtaSomalia]

somalis kenyans fighting...tsk...oh man when will you see its the corrupt governments...btw the defence minister is somali in kenya.

[Str8outtaSomalia]

oct 17 2008 i see. there's a lot of fishy business >>>>>>> between dameerkan sheekh shariif and kenyan government.

[tabasamuz]

the issue is not Who is Kenyan, Somarian,Ethiopians whether you are now American citizen, nobody choose to be a Refugee. we have to come together as Africans.Believe me now we have alot of kenyans with no homes but one year ago they were rich so watch what you say because the Lord is watching you and what you comment

[TheOinkk]

great video.

[MRXALLIYE]

sideen ubadbaadina dadkena,dalkena?

[MRXALLIYE]

masidana noodambeysay?

[cali2010]

f**k u 2 u dirty gorilla fm ethopia

[shotta1212]

fck somalis

[afran614]

shotta1212..wat do u have against these poor somalis they done nothing against ur people..why call them dirty pigs N anjera eating...are u a proud kenya..if u ask me everything in that country is owned and run by foreign people..All the business is owned by arabs,indians europeans and somalis..so stop hating. ur people clean houses N take out trash.u should thank this ppl for coming to ur country and bringing economy to ur poor country...

[shotta1212]

itslifeshit happened on ur ass damn puta ...hmmm somalis esp from som. are the dirtiest creations...u peoples need soap in plenty...dick riding wallalo...should have resisted some ethiops crunking ur ass pendehos..09 in ur ass till u 4 ever..wsup

[shotta1212]

SOMALIS DIRTY PIGS CLEAN UR BCKYARDA...should have to clean the mess u leave behind...ur number 1 worldwide in dirty ass shyt..shouldhave know betta...injera eating ....

[shotta1212]

There is no boundaries for a human beings...all people are the same, they deserve their own rights ...Somalis, Kenyan whatever....let our peoples free and we shall all be free...regardless...am Kenyan and I think Kenya is all east Africa combined, know your history. Integrate and grant people freedom to live because history will not judge you harshly...it was said. (AFRICA UNITE)

[EthiopianNews]

@ChosenFier

Fuckin moron, you're even not African you peace of shit.You African Americans are ashamed of Africa not the Somalis .Go and bow down to the white man!

[CushiticSomalianMale]

@EthiopianNews

shut u u ethiHOE pian hoodrat redbone mele zenawi looking hal;fway ashkenazi jew nuthead, why would a semit-ethiopian like u even bother showing attention to e.African(Somalian, kenyan problems) stick to ur eri-ethiHOEpia u fool, dont talk about east african Somalian/kenyan problems, it has nothing to do with u, and for the afro-americans that help their African brothers in Somalia kenya, then bless them, dont hate on them u ethiopian crakkker! we support those that support US

[Tuaregblood]

Just stupid people. They shoot each other and run to kenya and say no food no sugar no fuck no pants no italian pasta no piracy. No one will put your country in order but you idiots. All of you should be wipe to ocean and your land used as farms and port since you can't build it but cut each other's throat.

[yunaas101]

tureg berber shirt up

[anisacali]

@Tuaregblood You're disgusting, go to hell

[SomaliDuriyaad]

I have nothing against kenyan people but the NFD is somalia and will always be part of mama somalia no matter what the maps say. Somali refugees are welcome in the NFD because its the motherland. Somalis wakeup and abandon Qabil it is holding us back we need to stick together and unite.

[geedimayow]

dagz!!! big ups to biibaye and abdullahi.men! i miss dag. my shout outs to all my peepz at B1.i miss ya'all.

ex-B1nite Aka Abdiyoow

[creamsaver1]

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[mnandi984]

somalia is the embarassment of africa they always have these superiority complex. look here abdulahi go and save ur country

[Koffidenda2]

I feel for you guys, Kenyan is such a mean country. My relatives used to live there and they said that they were constantly being harrased by the Kenyan police because of IDs or citizenship proof.

[akuraoo]

Even the Kenyans are harrased by their own police

[radsama]

who cares somalis commit genocides against the own pple. no human like them

[southbobby]

They're running from the illegal renditions

[Rakeiym]

Thanx 2 Kenyans and KENYA we gave you protection! Running away from your own people of same same language and religion. It´s a shame you dont see who you are. Simple murderes and fuckin´ parasites. Kenya has a black president in US, what do u have, wariya! Ohh yeah, i forgot pirates! Big progress Somalia! Respect 2 Kenya 4 savin´ your unthankfull asses.

[alikomn]

Keep dreaming about Kenya having a black president in USA. I am Somali-American and our kids born here in USA are considered citizens - your argument is that of an Irish man in Ireland calling Clinton an Irish citizen. Obama has no solid connections in Kenya apart from his father whom he has no memories. Thanks to his white mother and grandparents who raised him regardless.

[Joorei]

I truly understand the situation of these people. I have lived and grew up in this camp, and life is really difficult for most people. Personally, I feel the students who completed their high school and have no foreseeable future could be the leaders of 2morrow's Somali, not the current Somali driven around by stupid recless selfish warlords. I have been through the same school and life system and I really feel this. Hope there is light at the end of the the tunnel

[bienveneau]

no suuga

[kijijikubwa]

of course kenya is shit run by "foreigners",but remind me again who,if anyone, is running somali for the past two decades. Maybe ur remotely running it all the way from SA!!!!

[suspendedb4]

my god what are u doing in somali sides hehehe bantu man are u kidding me hehehe

[kijijikubwa]

what am i doing here u ask?being that ur unable to read the word KENYA ie K-E-N-Y-A is in the video heading as is the case with SOMALI REFUGEES and ur shithead friend aka itslifeshithappens tried 2 b a keyboard commando kinda like u but couldn't handle it and eventually gave up, closed his account and joined his respective clan militia so please do the same u arab wannabe/arab bootlicker & keep the savagery going and importing refugees

[suspendedb4]

dude get off my neck bantu canablisme u use to eat people b4 we somalis tought u how to wear clouths and be civilised

[kijijikubwa]

you dipshtis have never taught anyone anything because u can never teach anyone anything as well as spell.wtf is "canblisme" or 'clouths"?? CIVILISED ur the last ppl on earth to know anything about being civilised borrowing heavily from ur arab masters without whom u'd be completely useless as u were meant 2 b

[suspendedb4]

dumm ass

[MTOTOwaNYAYO]

fundisha hao mawalalo adabu..good job.

[kijijikubwa]

sina shida nao in general b4 lakini lately nime notice wengi wao wako na upuzi na inani force kubishana nao kama huyu fala 'itslifeshithappens'.the prick shut down his account If they want a fight i'll give them one any time with concrete facts and not name calling(ad hominem attacks)

[1studentoftruth]

wow, african on african racism, it's disheartening, so much for the pan africanism thing. Maybe we could all (african americans included) try to prove our superiority of each other, while slaughtered mentally, emotionally, and physically, by the rest of the world that does the same to us.

[malindiboy]

@kijijikubwa you frustrated with one individual,so please stop generalising.the fact of the matter is,being a muslim doesn't make any one 'an arab' nor does it make anyone 'kiss an arab's ass'!cushites in general are very proud people of there culture and heritage,from ethiopia,somalia and even eritrea.they honestly despise arabs.a bunch of'em might be arrogant and ignorants,due to violence and civil war,,,,but not all are the same.RESPECT.one love.

[kijijikubwa]

@malindiboy.Point taken...best of wishes & thanks for your civility

[kijijikubwa]

maybe the pirates or icu/iuc will get them back LOOOOOOOOOOOOOL!!

[TaskiyahEmaani]

lol ignore that (it is my lady crap) it was my liitle sister takeing revenge on me :)

[TaskiyahEmaani]

its truely amazing how americans feel that they can throw thier wieght around and get away with it. such ignorance is sickening.

[gregwi562]

And just to think: this country originally threw its weight around to make sure humanitarian aid could get to the most vulnerable Somalis. But I guess you actually think that killing weaker, starving human beings is fine if it is all done in house.

[TaskiyahEmaani]

and plz dont try to talk to me as though you actully cared about the famine that struck somalia back in the 90s due to its already tyrannical government. "allowing aid in" what aid? do you mean the bombing of hospitals and universities? thats what you americans call aid?

you speak like a racist and you try to sound sympathetic? dont make me laugh, it just makes you look the more foolish.

[Omer698]

What do you propose of an all Islamic peace keeping force and mediation from Islamic countries to restore stability and government that reflects the people of somalia and end the diaspora?

[TaskiyahEmaani]

i dare say they would do the job better however just that we are left alone and not intervened with would do nicely at present. we dont need the aid of other countries, we are perfectly capable of resolving our problems by our selves.

[gregwi562]

After 18+ years, you really ought to be on your own.

In the meantime I do know that there are plenty of Somali refugee communities in Europe, Canada, and even here in the USA. It is a shame that even they have given up on their homeland but who can blame them. Who wants to live in a dangerous place where perpetual tribal fighting consumes everyone's existence. That is no way for anyone to live.

Good luck solving your own problems. Maybe it might take another 18 years. Probably a lot more.

[TaskiyahEmaani]

yes be sure we will resolve our issues, now that we have america as a common enemy we will use our efforts to root out the evil they have brough.

[TaskiyahEmaani]

"In addition to mass shelling of heavily populated residential areas of the Somali capital city, reports out of Somalia by reputable journalists and published in mainstream media outlets, also show that the warlords and the Ethiopian occupying forces (backed by non other then the americans) are using food as a weapon of war by blocking, delaying and delimiting the capacity of international relief workers to deliver urgently needed food and medicine"

you sir are a HYPOCRITE who knows NOTHING

[gregwi562]

You have a simpleton's view of geopolitics and much like are dumb president now you have fallen into the trap of the two worlds: good vs evil. In the end, it is a waste of time and leads us down a road of no return if we argue whose God is better than the other's God and painting one group as absolute good and the other as absolute evil.

I can pretty much see that is how you understand the world and in the end our exchange here will be fruitless.

At least I hope we can agree to disagree.

[TaskiyahEmaani]

it is my lady, oh it is my love says he, already claiming her as his own and determined that she will be.

[TaskiyahEmaani]

wake up for God's sake this is a man who openly gave permission for ethiopia to invade his fellow country men so that he could cling unto whatever little power he had. if you find any credibility in such a coward i can only regard you as vague and block headed

the ethiopians have caused unspeakable horrors and crimes against humanity on our soil,untill complete justice has been done ethiopia will never find any peace in any upright citizen of our nation

as for america it has one more enemy

[gregwi562]

You know, I can even understand as an American why you would vilify my country. After all, we have taken a side in the conflict your country. But it dose show me how extreme your position is, that you also consider the UN a "terrorist" group.

Really, you are proving that no one can help Somalia except Somalians. In the end, you have take to take responsibility for the crappy situation in your own country because no one forced you to fight each other allow terrorist in your country.

[TaskiyahEmaani]

the UIC not only managed to stop the conflict that has crippled somalia but also managed to unite a desperate nation brought down to its knees by its american lead tyrrant. in the short time they where in power, the people of somalia for the first time in more then 16 years could actully travel and go about thier business without fear of bieng kidnapped and extradited to ethiopia for suspicion of allying with supposed "terrosists".

theres no denying it america is responsible for its crimes.

[gregwi562]

So are you saying that Somali is a paradise now?

Then why has Aljazeera published this report about the "ongoing conflict?"

And what is up with the war lords resort to pirating on the high seas in order get a ransom so they can buy even more weapons to vanquish their enemies?

[TaskiyahEmaani]

piracy? lool dont make me laugh, if your country was used a base for dumping chemical waste and your waters where ILLEGALY over fished i dare say you would hail anyone who confronts such criminals.

you westerns (specially americans) absoloutly love to look down upon the thhird world as a bunch of shiftless poor savages who cannot even make a decent living for them selves. you barely know half the story and you're already prejudicest.

[TaskiyahEmaani]

i thought america became more open minded after iraq, it appears it was a false hope.

[gregwi562]

No. Americans will not take the blame for all the ills the world over. That is not our bad.

Please cry to your former colonial masters. And if you really want to get on the right track, please get your own house in order first. There is no reason for a country to be in such miserable shape from an internal security standpoint such as is the case in Somalia.

[ogaal83]

There's no Allah. No Somali should remain in that horrible "religion" as it is merely an Arab indoctrination to brianwash our people, resulting war and misery. I've given up on Islam and it's by far the best thing to have happened to me. I hope our people will realize it sooner than later and stop this madness. None Muslims have been good to us and we are forever grateful. One day Somalia will be without Islam and we'll have peace and live normal life like the rest of the world. Guulaysta!

[conduit99]

(To Ogaal83) Fuck off you wierdo. "..None Muslims have been good to us.."? Have you been paying attention to what has been happening to Somalia since 2006? You are WILLFULLY ignorant and have an agenda. I'm not here to defend every person who calls him or herself Muslim on Earth (Islam doesnt teach that) whether they are Arab or whatever other Ethnic group BUT I will say that I am PROUD to be a Muslim. My people have been Muslim since the 10th Century which spawned a clean & distinct culture.

[ZameerkA]

shut up snabbkurs and theflex you all know nathing of life but to go side with people even though theyre the wrongdoes and it's america that interferes with outher countries .why does it care who or what kill each other they just butt in and talk like they have the right and how would they feel if a country told them what to do alsoif ethiopeans and somalians are fighting each other who told them to say a word of it

[ikran2007]

may allah help them.

[ayeowhome]

America doesn't go to Somolia because there is nothing to gain in somolia!...America doesn't have any compassion for people who are in need, well, the American Govt. rather, 2, the Real people who run America, could give 2 shits about the problems of a darker people, look at inner city problems and see how America cares about its own darker people

[snabbkurs]

Somalians has created refugees and poverty. why do u blame America, it is up to Somalias to restore order in Somalia not America

[conduit99]

Idiots. America CREATED this chaos in 2006-2007 when they directly participated in and funded, armed and greenlit the immoral and illegal War of Aggression on Somalia by the tyrannical state of Ethiopia, and it's subsequent foreign occupation and Warcrimes.

ALL THIS AFTER Somalis "restored order" by themselves via the Islamic Courts Union which brought Peace and Justice to Somalia for the first time in 18 years in 2006, before the U.S. toppled it.

Dont talk about shit you dont know moron.

[conduit99]

America has a MORAL RESPONSIBILITY to pay Reparations to all those it caused to be wrongfully killed & property damage and foreign theft after 2006 when they launched their War of Aggression on Somalia directly and via the Colonially created Tyrannical State of Ethiopia.

Moreover, it needs remove it's Savage Proxy Dogs (Ethiopian & A.U. troops), and Re-Install the popular Islamic Courts Union whom they Toppled in 2006. I.C.U brought Islamic Peace & Justice to Somalia & 1st peace since 1991.

[conduit99]

(cont) and Apologize, but America would never do that, because it is EVIL.

[gregwi562]

Really, it is time for Somalia, as well as so many other failed states to take responsibilities for themselves. It really has become such a crippling mental defect of so many 3rd world countries to blame their dire economic, political, and social ills on the USA. It really is like a Pavlovian reaction: if something is wrong with your country, blame it on the USA.

The truth is blaming the USA won't solve any of your problems.

[TaskiyahEmaani]

im sorry to inform you however your country IS responsible for the many chaotic problems of many nations. i cant answer for every nation earth but for my own i have a case, it is a well known FACT that america is arming and financing warlords and drug barons acroos the country so that they can maintain power instead od the islamic courts who have suceeded where the criminal interim government has failed miserably.

[gregwi562]

One thing I know is that you, like most other people who have a Pavlovian reaction to the US, cannot point out specifics at all. You have been conditioned to believe that if a situation is bad, then it is the fault of the USA. This view is ultimately as destructive as it is childish and unproductive.

Somalia has little strategic interest to the US. There are little to no cultural ties. The only strategic importance of the country is that it is on the Red Sea.

[gregwi562]

Arms selling, both legal and illegal, is prolific everywhere. And along with American arms sellers, I can bet you your mud hut that a significant amount of the arms in Somalia today also come from Russia, France, Great Britain, Germany, China, and even North Korea.

But ultimately Somalia is a mess because of failed Somali leadership. No one is forcing your people to fight and kill each other. I know you are a nation of adults: please act like adults.

[TheFlex21]

yeah, and they need to get the fuck out of iraq

[snabbkurs]

Iraqis kill each other daily, they became terrorist and hate each other, sunni and shiia muslims kill each other daily, dont blame America

[TheFlex21]

whether they kill each other or not, doesn't change anything, they still need to get the fuck out of Iraq

[gregwi562]

As I see it, the problem is when another country tries to get involved in the affairs of another country or people. It is like a stranger intervening in a family dispute. Often that intervention will end up in the stranger being attacked by one or both parties because that stranger is seen as taking sides.

So trust me, at least for the next generation or so I don't see the USA or the European Union getting involved in such disputes again.

NGO's can help, but only just for relief and charity.

[adaweaden]

I understand their situation and I was one of them till 2007 when I got identity. Biibay, abdullahi peace and Abdirisack, thank you for letting the world know the problem of Dadaab camps. They are my friends and former camp- mate(Dagahaley refugee camp). My the Lord save you from the clink of been refugee in Kenya where you live is always between legality and illegality.

[Farahdinho]

its sad man!MAy Allah help them.Its just a shame on the Kenyan government's part.After stayin in Kenya for 18years,they r not even granted a citizenship or refugee status!!!they r just kept in the camps like the way the wild animals r kept in the Kenyan zoos.Kenya,Africa and the world at large failed ma people n nation.May Allah help them regain their freedom n status as PROUD Somalis instead of feeling stateless people.

[bluenosedive]

I have a problam with what you are saying Kenya has good reasons not to give them ciitzenship or refugee status... you have to remember kenya is not the richest country in Africa if they were to do what you suggest there would be a lot of strain on thier social programs whaich are not even enough for the Kenyans right now, so atleast they alow them into the country, which many counries wouldn't even do

[p2pjoe]

god help them. please god, sincerely.

[TaskiyahEmaani]

i dont understand how politicians and people of power anywhere can see people suffering and do nothing about it. humanity has failed in every sense of compassion and brotherly love. the more i see of this world the less i want to be part of it.

[gregwi562]

I agree with you to a great extent and ideally you are correct.

However, on a practical matter humanitarian issues are very complex and dangerous. I am sure you remember what happened with the last international humanitarian intervention into Somalia. To Americans, and I am sure many others, it brings one thing to mind: "Black Hawk Down."

It would be nice if conflicts like this could be solved with good intentions alone. However, the peoples of Somalia will have to solve the problems themselves

[TaskiyahEmaani]

very true however i can only find one fault in your argument. and i mean no ill will towards the europeans by saying this however ALL the problems of somlia started when it was colonised and invading by racist forces from europe. had our nation not been so altered and intervned with by careless tyrrants we wouldnt have "a problem to solve".

however you are right. not all the blame goes to america and the UN.

[TaskiyahEmaani]

as regards to america, i have no sympathy for any loss to thier part, be it human lives (e.g soldiers) or materialistic resources (such as money and air crafts). they murdered thousands of our people on the false pretence of "freeing" us when in actual fact they where bombing hospitals and schools.

i was there as a little child and saw it with my own eyes, and if you where there too you would never forgive or forget.

[xlioilx]

I don't think you understand that as an American we don't have any control of our government they do what they want and the troops follow blindly as they are thought the majority of us don't support actions like what you have described.

[TaskiyahEmaani]

and yet no one does anything about it although america is the supposed "land of the free". its an anomely.

[xlioilx]

there is nothing free here this is the land of the slave and imprisoned

[TaskiyahEmaani]

its not just you but all of us. nowhere on earth can be fully discribed as bieng a nation of liberaty, that notion has died in in the memory of history.

i wish you and all reasonable minded americans well

[gregwi562]

I will not argue with your loss. I had a family member there (a soldier who you so despise). However, I cannot and will not argue with you on your perception of what happen there.

At the same time, I will share with you that it was because of that incident that not only Americans, but also Europeans and others have such a let it be attitude about what goes on in places like Somalia.

[TaskiyahEmaani]

what percetion do you mean? that we are the so called "failed state"?

[gregwi562]

I meant perceptions in general and about the circumstances of the US's failed humanitarian intervention in 1992-93 in particular.

Somalia is a failed state. That is a fact. So there is no debate there.

[TaskiyahEmaani]

and i suppose you're blaming us for that, im i correct?

[gregwi562]

At the end of the day, who is their left to blame.

Look, we all know that this is nothing new. There has been no stable government in Mogadishu since 1990. That is 18 plus years of civil war and strife that has displaced millions. It has led to famine and starvation for many people. There are Somali refugees all over the place. Today, the government cannot even control warlords who have chosen to use the Red Sea as a place to hijack cargo and cruise ships.

It is a mess.

[TaskiyahEmaani]

im sorry to say this but either you're blind to the injustices of your nation or you're delibratly being ignorant.

do you seriously mean to tell me that you dont consider the american bombing of somalia in january 2007 that killed 31 civilanz many of them women and children as a blameless action?

america is not to be blame for such an outright agression on an already weak country that has no means of defending itself since america has already imposed economic sanctions on them?

[gregwi562]

Ok. Let's face reality here. Your country is totally dysfunctional. It is run by war lords and the lack of a government has allowed all sorts of criminal elements and activities to thrive in your country. And a lot of this has been done under the guise militant Islam. But a terrorist is a terrorist.

And the fact of the matter in that incident, your president Abdullahi Yusuf Ahmed gave his blessing for the military operation.

[TaskiyahEmaani]

i wonder why hmmm let me see perhaps it was because abdulahi yusuf (that scoundral) knows he is NOT ELLECTED by the somalia people and therefore has to suck up the UN/US (who are by the way keeping that useless government in power by aiding it fincancially and politicaly) or is it perhaps because if he dosnt abdulahi yusuf will become an enimy 2both sides and thus puting himself in even more danger

the only terrorist in somalia are the UN lead interim government further aided by the U.S

[gregwi562]

And you must consider all those years in the interim when Somalia had the opportunity to take care of its own internal affairs. Instead the war lords thought is would be better to be in a perpetual fight with their fellow country men.

You first stated that you want the world to help Somalia because of what is going on. Well not even the UN is going to write you a blank check. Somalians will have to show progress to organizations such as the UN.

[TaskiyahEmaani]

lol where did i say that? we dont need the help of america or the world.

the somalia people are not like the native indians you managed to kill off over the past centuries. we will not be tamed by colonialists and we wont submitt to thier will even if it kills every man, women or child.

leave our shores and our poletics alone we're not in need of your democracy.

[gregwi562]

No one wants to tame you. No one really needs you. They only thing they really need is for you to keep your dysfunctional behavior to yourselves..i.e within your own borders. Ethiopian does want your refugees and nor does Kenya. International shippers don't want your criminal Islamist war lords hijacking them in international waters.

You have no oil or other significant natural resources. Who needs U?

If Somalia chooses to be miserable please stay miserable within your own borders.

[TaskiyahEmaani]

lol and i suppose thats why you're there in the midlle of our waters in the first place? because we have "nothing". wasnt it enought that you killed off the natives and inslaved the west africans? isnt that enough of a shame for america? now you want to destabilise the eastern side as well?

your thirst for blood is truely unrelenting.

[solaimane]

god bless this poeple