korvelo, there's no such thing as fireproof homes. Maybe fire resistant, but not fireproof. Unless you plan on living in a home with concrete floors, furniture ect. No curtains, no rugs, no plastic, no windows ect inside. A fire resistant home still has combustibles inside. Glass windows still break. How, exactly, are your homes you build 100% FIREPROOF?
And the jet wash, and air vortices that these large jets put out affect the fires, too, and these big jets can not penetrate the canopy in Timber or heavy brush. Gov. Arnold said California would buy 200 new Helicopters for its fleet. Well Bell helicopter can not build that many in one year the cost is about $3 mill EACH and then they would have to hire Helicopter pilots and helitack crews with vacancies everywhere already and the State is broke. Anything else, korvelo??
No amount of air support can put out established and running forest fires which are in alignment with heavy fuels, slope and weather. If u took all of the heavy airtankers and Type I helicopters in the country and used them ONLY for initial attack you would NOT significantly reduce the total amount of acres burned annually. The Supertankers have been used on brush and grass fires but with the DC-10 at $30,000 per hr with a 3 hr min or $90,000 every time it's ordered is it worth that?
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it's easy to build a house FIREPROOF...it's time to leave the WOOD AGE.... never evacuate your house and risk your life and that of the ones you love..don't trust the gov. or the fire dept. they are a joke.
time to have a real fire extinguishing department ,not a fire watching department ...WHAT A JOKE..
korvelo.. Again, you sit safe behind your computer screen while my man, and thousands of other firefighters bust their ass trying to save people's homes, and lives. You want to talk about a joke, look in the mirror, you damn fool, and read up on facts, and while you're at it, educate yourself on the roles and duties of the firefighters who save YOUR ASS! Moron.
u are part of the problem, all u do is call names and defend a joke of an effort while not disputing my claims or presenting a solution.
maybe your husband would have to get another job because with half the people they use now and a fleet of 30 or more 747 size water tankers any fire would be put out in hours.
or maybe you work for the union ,they love more and bigger fires that way they will get more members and more money .
Actually, my man's job is very secure, no worries about him losing his job. You think all these water tankers will put out these fires in a matter of hours? You mean with 70 MPH winds, and flying embers?Not to mention, who is going to accomdate a fleet of 30 or more 747's? They run on 1/3 max weight to facilitate shorter runways. I wouldn't want my man to be on the firelines when they find out it doesn't handle mountains as well as they had hoped. Quit goin on about things u know nothing about!
more lies and excuses people like u are the reason we have no real fire department .
planes would leave from strategic airports and fully loaded maybe we would have to build or convert some airports and we would have a quick refill set up for quick return to the fire if needed.and also a lot of heavy helicopters for a more controlled fire attack .all it would take is money and will .
just a little less to Iraq or a couple of banks that's all
korvelo, what "lie" have I told?? Since you're the genius of forest and brush fires, can you please explain to me how the 747 tankers can handle the hilly/mountainous terrain? Their maneuverability is lacking, as is your thoughts. Explain to me how this aircraft will handle drops in those types of terrain with 70+ mph winds. I'm just dying to hear your explanation! Oh, and you forgot to leave your home address *grins*
Land a 747 on a hilltop, open the doors and let the water run out??? LMFAO! Dayum, I thought you were a moron before, now I'm POSITIVE you're a moron. Haul your head out of your ass before you post about something you have no knowledge on.
Yeah korvelo, it's easy to put out ANY fire in hours, just land a huge ass 747 on the top of a hill, open the door, let the water run out and down the hill to put out these massive fires fueled by 70+ mph wind lmfao! Hell, why not ask Jack and Jill to help while they are on their way up the hill to fetch the pail of water! God knows there will be enough water coming from that big ass 747 tanker parked up there ROFLMAO! (and you think MY brain is challenged!!! LOL)
let me explain how it's done but it will be too confusing for u !
first planes will have changes to the wings to lower the speed of flight,maybe even necessary to build an all new plane based on the c5 or even the 747.second the inside has to have two rows of tanks that will discharge fast either thru pressurization or ram. discharge has to be controlled in a way to maintain stability of flight.
and hills present a little problem because planes have to have a certain clearance but over 100 tons of water will cover a large area .
second wind is a problem too and that's the reason 30 or more planes are needed to overwhelm the fire to the point of creating a flash flood .fly with high wind is risky but with the wind in front of you one can even go slower and not all fires are in hills or 70 mph winds,but even at those extreme conditions planes can fly and fight fires.
Oh, and 1 more thing. Why don't you post your address so I can send it to all the local fire departments so they can save their ass and bypass your house. Let it burn to the ground while they save someone else's house who appreciates their efforts and hard work and doesn't pass it off as "a joke". God, I love morons like you.
WOW! Talk about taking the Bible out of context...
Are you saying the only people that lost their homes were wicked people? That no Christians lost their homes? The firefighters that were injured, were they being punished for something?
Ecclesiastes 9:11; time and unforeseen occurrence befall them all.
Jer 6:30 Reprobate silver shall [men] call them, because the LORD hath rejected them.
Eze 22:31 Therefore have I poured out mine indignation upon them;I have consumed them with the fire of my wrath: their own way have I recompensed upon their heads, saith the Lord GOD.
As the real estate market tumbles in California, the more fires will be set. Even the wealthy are losing value or can't sell their multimillion dollar castles. Easier to pay someone to torch the neighborhood, collect the insurance money to cover their losses.
This fire was started by some dumbasses lighting a bonfire while we were having horrendous Santa Ana winds. :(
szqsk8 1 year ago
korvelo, there's no such thing as fireproof homes. Maybe fire resistant, but not fireproof. Unless you plan on living in a home with concrete floors, furniture ect. No curtains, no rugs, no plastic, no windows ect inside. A fire resistant home still has combustibles inside. Glass windows still break. How, exactly, are your homes you build 100% FIREPROOF?
FirefightersGir1 2 years ago
And the jet wash, and air vortices that these large jets put out affect the fires, too, and these big jets can not penetrate the canopy in Timber or heavy brush. Gov. Arnold said California would buy 200 new Helicopters for its fleet. Well Bell helicopter can not build that many in one year the cost is about $3 mill EACH and then they would have to hire Helicopter pilots and helitack crews with vacancies everywhere already and the State is broke. Anything else, korvelo??
FirefightersGir1 2 years ago
No amount of air support can put out established and running forest fires which are in alignment with heavy fuels, slope and weather. If u took all of the heavy airtankers and Type I helicopters in the country and used them ONLY for initial attack you would NOT significantly reduce the total amount of acres burned annually. The Supertankers have been used on brush and grass fires but with the DC-10 at $30,000 per hr with a 3 hr min or $90,000 every time it's ordered is it worth that?
FirefightersGir1 2 years ago
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it's easy to build a house FIREPROOF...it's time to leave the WOOD AGE.... never evacuate your house and risk your life and that of the ones you love..don't trust the gov. or the fire dept. they are a joke.
time to have a real fire extinguishing department ,not a fire watching department ...WHAT A JOKE..
korvelo 2 years ago
korvelo.. Again, you sit safe behind your computer screen while my man, and thousands of other firefighters bust their ass trying to save people's homes, and lives. You want to talk about a joke, look in the mirror, you damn fool, and read up on facts, and while you're at it, educate yourself on the roles and duties of the firefighters who save YOUR ASS! Moron.
FirefightersGir1 2 years ago
whine on
u are part of the problem, all u do is call names and defend a joke of an effort while not disputing my claims or presenting a solution.
maybe your husband would have to get another job because with half the people they use now and a fleet of 30 or more 747 size water tankers any fire would be put out in hours.
or maybe you work for the union ,they love more and bigger fires that way they will get more members and more money .
korvelo 2 years ago
Actually, my man's job is very secure, no worries about him losing his job. You think all these water tankers will put out these fires in a matter of hours? You mean with 70 MPH winds, and flying embers?Not to mention, who is going to accomdate a fleet of 30 or more 747's? They run on 1/3 max weight to facilitate shorter runways. I wouldn't want my man to be on the firelines when they find out it doesn't handle mountains as well as they had hoped. Quit goin on about things u know nothing about!
FirefightersGir1 2 years ago
more lies and excuses people like u are the reason we have no real fire department .
planes would leave from strategic airports and fully loaded maybe we would have to build or convert some airports and we would have a quick refill set up for quick return to the fire if needed.and also a lot of heavy helicopters for a more controlled fire attack .all it would take is money and will .
just a little less to Iraq or a couple of banks that's all
TOO COMPLICATED FOR U I CAN SEE
korvelo 2 years ago
korvelo, what "lie" have I told?? Since you're the genius of forest and brush fires, can you please explain to me how the 747 tankers can handle the hilly/mountainous terrain? Their maneuverability is lacking, as is your thoughts. Explain to me how this aircraft will handle drops in those types of terrain with 70+ mph winds. I'm just dying to hear your explanation! Oh, and you forgot to leave your home address *grins*
FirefightersGir1 2 years ago
more excuses wow .
u just don't get it.
the planes just have to land on the hilltops open the doors and the water will just roll downhill,easy .
i could come up with other options but this one should work 4 u.
let me know if you have another stupid question i'm sure i can find a suitable answer for it.
and i build fireproof homes the kind u never have to evacuate NEVER!
does that seems impossible 4 u 2?
korvelo 2 years ago
Land a 747 on a hilltop, open the doors and let the water run out??? LMFAO! Dayum, I thought you were a moron before, now I'm POSITIVE you're a moron. Haul your head out of your ass before you post about something you have no knowledge on.
FirefightersGir1 2 years ago
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please lady go back watching the FD watch fires burning .
if they don't get i wouldn't expect u to get it either at least u aren't alone .
AGAIN IT'S EASY TO PUT ANY FIRE OUT IN HOURS AND BUILD FIREPROOF HOMES THAT U NEVER HAVE TO EVACUATE .
the problem is the stupid leaders we have aided by equally brain challenged people such as u.
korvelo 2 years ago
Yeah korvelo, it's easy to put out ANY fire in hours, just land a huge ass 747 on the top of a hill, open the door, let the water run out and down the hill to put out these massive fires fueled by 70+ mph wind lmfao! Hell, why not ask Jack and Jill to help while they are on their way up the hill to fetch the pail of water! God knows there will be enough water coming from that big ass 747 tanker parked up there ROFLMAO! (and you think MY brain is challenged!!! LOL)
FirefightersGir1 2 years ago
hahaah.
r u this dumb or u'r just going for the ride?
let me explain how it's done but it will be too confusing for u !
first planes will have changes to the wings to lower the speed of flight,maybe even necessary to build an all new plane based on the c5 or even the 747.second the inside has to have two rows of tanks that will discharge fast either thru pressurization or ram. discharge has to be controlled in a way to maintain stability of flight.
quick refill gate on top .
korvelo 2 years ago
and hills present a little problem because planes have to have a certain clearance but over 100 tons of water will cover a large area .
second wind is a problem too and that's the reason 30 or more planes are needed to overwhelm the fire to the point of creating a flash flood .fly with high wind is risky but with the wind in front of you one can even go slower and not all fires are in hills or 70 mph winds,but even at those extreme conditions planes can fly and fight fires.
got more excuses?
korvelo 2 years ago
Oh, and 1 more thing. Why don't you post your address so I can send it to all the local fire departments so they can save their ass and bypass your house. Let it burn to the ground while they save someone else's house who appreciates their efforts and hard work and doesn't pass it off as "a joke". God, I love morons like you.
FirefightersGir1 2 years ago
yeh this shit was on purpose, but wtf is up with all the religion in here. damnn. some extremistss...
itzbriantea 3 years ago
WOW! Talk about taking the Bible out of context...
Are you saying the only people that lost their homes were wicked people? That no Christians lost their homes? The firefighters that were injured, were they being punished for something?
Ecclesiastes 9:11; time and unforeseen occurrence befall them all.
oolitic20 3 years ago
And if it's arsonist, do you think that's how God would accomplish his will?
James 1:13 When under trial, let no one say: "I am being tried by God." For with evil things God cannot be tried nor does he himself try anyone.
Go take your SIXTH wife to dinner, and shut up, you wanna be Bible Nazi.
oolitic20 3 years ago
Jer 6:30 Reprobate silver shall [men] call them, because the LORD hath rejected them.
Eze 22:31 Therefore have I poured out mine indignation upon them;I have consumed them with the fire of my wrath: their own way have I recompensed upon their heads, saith the Lord GOD.
melek122 3 years ago
Jer 6:27 I have set thee [for] a tower [and] a fortress among my people,that thou mayest know and try their way.
Jer 6:28 They [are] all grievous revolters, walking with slanders:[they are] brass and iron; they [are] all corrupters.
Jer 6:29 The bellows are burned, the lead is consumed of the fire; the founder melteth in vain: for the wicked are not plucked away.
melek122 3 years ago
As the real estate market tumbles in California, the more fires will be set. Even the wealthy are losing value or can't sell their multimillion dollar castles. Easier to pay someone to torch the neighborhood, collect the insurance money to cover their losses.
traynickel 3 years ago
true...this had to be started on purpose
N1TEMAR3187 3 years ago
Maybe that's a warning for gay sex.
Ariji86 3 years ago
*Boo* bad joke..
iFight4furLife 3 years ago
only 2 things can stop gay sex.
1) religion
2) disaster
I didn't mean to joke.
Ariji86 3 years ago
Theres nothing wrong with gay people.
iFight4furLife 3 years ago
Being a gay and gay sex is different things.
Ariji86 3 years ago
Theres nothing wrong with any of it, your just another Christian Who only care about themselves.
iFight4furLife 3 years ago