Well how do you know he means John Coltrane and not Robbie Coltrane? That's the problem with inference/conjecture/assumptions. Further it does nothing to prove that Royal is racist as he's trying to obviously provoke a reaction from the usually reserved Henry for his own benefit. Royal is a user and manipulates people for his own ends. And he makes amends with Henry later on.
Henry and John Coltrane share no other similarities other than they're black. When Royal boasts that he can "talk some jive", he's basically saying that it's Henry's perceived "hipness" through being black that got Henry his ex-wife in the first place but that he can be "hip" too. Of course, he ends up making an ass of himself.
@Djangoblackbird No, idiot. He was just fucking with him as you'd see if you saw the whole scene. He was riling him up. First he pokes at him with a black comparison. Then steams him up more by referring to talking jive - he's pushing the black card - then just says get out the house. His wife comes in, he calms down, and Henry shows that he lost his cool - which was Royal's whole point: to get him to lose his cool over nothing. It worked on you too.
The fact that John Coltrane was pretty much the coolest MF to ever live just makes this scene all the more hilarious. LOL Royal tries to be racist and fails miserably.
I didn't get the Coltrane joke when I first heard it, but now I think it's hilarious. LOL I love how the racial stereotypes are reversed in this scene. It's so awkward, yet so perfect.
Ive never noticed that before, but im sure it was completely dilberate. Thats why I love these movies so much. You consistently notice new things everytime you watch them.
I searched, "coltrane" and "royal" hoping, just HOPING it'd be on youtube - you tagged it right! THIS SCENE IS ONE OF MY ABSOLUTE FAVES FROM THE FILM. I also love, "make YOURS, like MINE" (Murray)
Hackman was so awesome in this movie. I don't think he got any real kudos from the critics for his work in this film ... He should have. I love when his wife walks in.
@NimrodNYC hackman maeks me want to fucking enjoy life. he makes me want to put a brick through the other guy's window. he makes me want to take it out and chop it up.
Well how do you know he means John Coltrane and not Robbie Coltrane? That's the problem with inference/conjecture/assumptions. Further it does nothing to prove that Royal is racist as he's trying to obviously provoke a reaction from the usually reserved Henry for his own benefit. Royal is a user and manipulates people for his own ends. And he makes amends with Henry later on.
LeCutter 6 days ago
RIGHT ON! XD
GregofCanada 1 month ago
"Don't talk semantics with me!"
clockworkapple42 2 months ago
It's most likely not improv'ed, as Wes Anderson has actors read the script word for word.
stevetobias 4 months ago
hahahaha great scene
anchorman10000000000 8 months ago
uh, its not only that theyre both black, but he's saying he's smooth like coltrane. I wouldnt call it racist as much as it is stereotyping.
aloovo 9 months ago
Right on!
mharrin5507 10 months ago 3
Nothing like a PB&J to calm your nerves.
Oneversal 1 year ago
Henry and John Coltrane share no other similarities other than they're black. When Royal boasts that he can "talk some jive", he's basically saying that it's Henry's perceived "hipness" through being black that got Henry his ex-wife in the first place but that he can be "hip" too. Of course, he ends up making an ass of himself.
Djangoblackbird 1 year ago
@Djangoblackbird No, idiot. He was just fucking with him as you'd see if you saw the whole scene. He was riling him up. First he pokes at him with a black comparison. Then steams him up more by referring to talking jive - he's pushing the black card - then just says get out the house. His wife comes in, he calms down, and Henry shows that he lost his cool - which was Royal's whole point: to get him to lose his cool over nothing. It worked on you too.
Its called trolling.
TheDJIdris 4 months ago 2
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UhOhOreo129 1 year ago
Dr Skunkenstein put this into a song!
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noobenstein 1 year ago
royals a total badass! but if i did... i've used this line to great effect in real life arguments.
satyratron 1 year ago
I WANT CHO RAGGEDY ASS OUT MY...DON'T TALK SEMANTICS WITH ME!
cheezymouseful 1 year ago 4
you heard me, coltraine
bttrflyscar1 1 year ago
just coming home, and had this in my head 5 miles away...laughed all the way here to watch it again....
astrognat 1 year ago
The fact that John Coltrane was pretty much the coolest MF to ever live just makes this scene all the more hilarious. LOL Royal tries to be racist and fails miserably.
MagicalMysteryWhore 1 year ago 4
-You heard me Coltrane!
-Coltrane?
-What?
-Did you just call me Coltrane?
-No
-You didn't
-No.
farsideoftheocean 1 year ago 2
did u just call me coltrain? no you didnt?...no
SylletBang 1 year ago
awesome scene from a genius movie!
LvxMediaTV 1 year ago
this whole thing was ad-libbed, hense his reaction to "you wanna talk some jive?!"
Bulldog22031 1 year ago
It is Coltrane. In reference to John Coltrane, a famous black jazz musician from the 40s-60s. Don't you speak jive?
vvechinski 1 year ago 3
coal tray, folks.
MaisonHorne 1 year ago
My dad just filled me in on the Coltrane joke, what a riot. I thought he was making a pun on "Soul"-train.
MaxSachs 2 years ago
ahahahaha. one of my faourite scenes.
wholewheatbagel 2 years ago
I didn't get the Coltrane joke when I first heard it, but now I think it's hilarious. LOL I love how the racial stereotypes are reversed in this scene. It's so awkward, yet so perfect.
segould 2 years ago 2
lol gene hackman is the shit i love this scene
slye1991 2 years ago
"right on" hahahahahahaha
moz7777 2 years ago
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YOU WANNA TALK SOME JIVE???
azrial4421 2 years ago
improvised*
oober349 2 years ago
"Oh yeah?"
"Right on!"
starstruck4jeffhardy 2 years ago 2
ill talk some jive like you never heard!
jakandjakesjams 2 years ago 4
Raggedy Ass Out OF MY House!
NEBLEEKS 2 years ago
to great
reptaralldayRAD 2 years ago
lol coaltrain.
da9illest821 2 years ago
love how he says 'no'
artistsandbox 2 years ago 4
YOU WANNA TALK SOME JIVE???
radbikerider 2 years ago 3
It just KILLS me when Royal puts his hand in front of his mouth when he calls him Coltrane. So passive agressive!
One of my favorite movies of all times.
onemorebrando 2 years ago
Ive never noticed that before, but im sure it was completely dilberate. Thats why I love these movies so much. You consistently notice new things everytime you watch them.
KCURTORMAS 2 years ago
What did you say?
I said sit down dammit!
Oh, I heard you!
jimbopumbapigsticks 2 years ago
wait so why did he call him coltrane?
THOMASkaaz 2 years ago
Maybe because of John Coltrane?
swan240687 2 years ago
@THOMASkaaz Because he's black.
skipplet 2 years ago
hahaha what the hell does danny glover say at 1:16
Goodforrj 2 years ago
i think they were just improv-ing dialogue, and glover ran out of things to say waiting for the cue
whitman17 2 years ago
I'll talk some jive like you never heard!!!
dannytues 2 years ago 2
I guess "Coltrane" is better than "big black buck."
bigbluedinosaur 2 years ago
Hahaha..."...but if I did..." hahahaha!
5feetandrising 2 years ago 2
I just read your info comment. I think the word you are looking for is "improvised," rather than "improved."
HiddenChimera 2 years ago 3
Right On!
haah i love this movie
clintgil108 2 years ago 2
what city does the movie take place in?
NYswordsman 3 years ago
New York City
shaunachmad 3 years ago
what is this from?
zulu650 3 years ago
lol
that sinister ass smile he cracks @ :20
kills me everytime
this entire scene is fucking classic
Minnerz 3 years ago 4
I still don't get it, what he trying to say? That he looks like John Coltrane or can play the saxophone?
Morahman7vnNo2 3 years ago
Royal is racist. He's calling him Coltrane because they are both black.
WATCHMEN12 3 years ago 7
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How is he being racist? And only Henry is black. I thought he was calling him Coltrane because he thinks he's "Tryin' to steal his woman."
Morahman7vnNo2 3 years ago
@watchmen12
how is royal being racist? - him and pagoda (indian guy) get along great
alikos88 2 years ago
@WATCHMEN12 Why's that racist....twat.
WAHCollective 1 year ago
@WATCHMEN12 Why's that racist?....twat.
WAHCollective 1 year ago
@WATCHMEN12
He's not really racist, just inappropriate.
BigAndo21 10 months ago
@WATCHMEN12 royal is trying to be racist to prove an response from glover so he could gain sympathy, but he doesn't have the killer instinct.
kingcaesar5 10 months ago
@WATCHMEN12 /care
danielibertine 9 months ago
@WATCHMEN12 yes...and it's hilarious!
boocfuss 7 months ago
@WATCHMEN12 Wow! Sounds like you figured it out!
DrLight9 2 months ago
I love this part! "You wanna talk some jive?"
cerzule 3 years ago
i love this movie so much
pennylane71 3 years ago
you're not a bastard, royal-you're more of a son of a bitch...
willow2716 3 years ago
you heard me coltrane ROFLOMGZWTFBBQSAUCE!!!
Aphasia17 3 years ago
funny. I think peabody did it. lOl
forgivenwolf 4 years ago
lol
skyzze 4 years ago 2
I searched, "coltrane" and "royal" hoping, just HOPING it'd be on youtube - you tagged it right! THIS SCENE IS ONE OF MY ABSOLUTE FAVES FROM THE FILM. I also love, "make YOURS, like MINE" (Murray)
password 4 years ago 2
you heard me coltrane LOL!!! classic! =)
KiCreativeStudios 4 years ago 4
lol:P
skyzze 4 years ago
Waht movie is this?
eastmeadow1 4 years ago
The Royal Tenenbaums. Great movie.
DJMotorbike 4 years ago
YOU WANNA TALK SOME JIVE? I'LL TALK SOME JIVE LIKE YOU NEVER HEARD
lol
b0bydigital 4 years ago 23
Hackman was so awesome in this movie. I don't think he got any real kudos from the critics for his work in this film ... He should have. I love when his wife walks in.
NimrodNYC 4 years ago 9
He was! Fascinating to watch. Real depth. Liked him in Get Shorty too.
aesthetic1950 2 years ago
@NimrodNYC he got a golden globe!
haveweallgotthebends 1 year ago
@NimrodNYC hackman maeks me want to fucking enjoy life. he makes me want to put a brick through the other guy's window. he makes me want to take it out and chop it up.
msa1985 11 months ago 4