Bloomberg Dec 8: "... the public option, which has drawn opposition from Democrats Ben Nelson of Nebraska, Blanche Lincoln of Arkansas and Mary Landrieu of Louisiana (HICK STATES WHERE THE GOOD SENATORS THINK THEY WON"T BE RE-ELECTED IF THEY SUPPORT THE BILL), as well as Connecticut Senator Joe Li'rman, an independent..."
Bloomberg Dec 8: "... the public option, which has drawn opposition from Democrats Ben Nelson of Nebraska, Blanche Lincoln of Arkansas and Mary Landrieu of Louisiana (HICK STATES WHERE THE GOOD SENATORS THINK THEY WON"T BE RE-ELECTED IF THEY SUPPORT THE BILL), as well as Connecticut Senator Joe Li'rman, an independent..."
Stop the current plan. Real cost is 1/3 trillion dollars per year starting on the 7th year. The yearly take away from YOUR Medicare fund is $50 billion per year ramping up NOW. Will you get MORE for LESS? Hardly! The plan is to spread the wealth. Everyone who works will have more TAXES and SURtaxes on all things medical and all things perceived to be bad for your health. Everyone will be FORCED to have a plan or be fined. Where is freedom? What is socialism? Why work? Where is the free stuff?
Who's they? Everyone wants better and less costly care, this isn't it.
Its just more welfare. Its primarily a chronic or catastrophic illness issue(75%). You get far better bang out of setting up a paperless/record free treatment facilities for routine care(25%). People can just walk in get treated, enter name, SS, ICD9 codes, done. You eliminate insurance and malpractice altogether out of routine care. That will cut about 16% of total medical costs. Far more than this plan will save.
@babiesboy1933 , of but you are babiesbao, you are my State slave bitch. In fact I will sit on my fat ass and smoke dope, while you go out and work for the governments, and intern you my slave bitch will pay 65% of every penny you make to the State.
@putittogether: Old Dude, you really need to lay off of the sauce late @ night. I don't care if they tax the hell out of those rich bastards. They've been living off the backs of everyday people too long. Long live Obama. I hope he becomes KING!!!
@babiesboy1933 -young dude, I don't drink of take drugs. And I am grateful for your fundamental ignorance of economics. You are going to make an excellent slave.
Taxpayers will get less. Medicare people will get much less and be denied some services depending on age. Poor people may get a little more. People who don't work will get the most. It's called spread the wealth. Many of you voted for it. Most of you have been paying for a nice retirement for your golden years. Sorry, youre a bit too old.
"WELLNESS THINGS WE DO IN THIS BILL"???? HEY WOMEN...forget about "wellness" w/Mamograms!
Let me tell you Dirty Harry...you may be able to look at a picture of a woman's breat in a medical book that's rotted away by cancer...But _I'M AN RN_...and I know the stench of that rot...what it smells like...what a woman has to lve with until she dies...in agony...with that disease. NO...YOU aren't "CONCERNED" with wellness...don't feed me that!
Its all paid for. By you, Mr & Ms American.Yes, money is taken from Medicare benefits. Surtax levied on unhealthy stuff, health businesses, expensive health care plans, etc. But the sneakiest way is to pay for it is through a cheaper, devalued dollar. The US debt load is too high and going higher. Now the government is spending printed money it doesnt have; Just like homebuyers a few years ago. This is more dangerous than the treasonous health care bill itself. INFLATION PAYS. Hurts all of us
Yeah, So this is the change. You better get that done, cause come mid terms, I suspect most of you dems are going to be looking for a job. It's just a matter of time before America goes 3rd party.
it's so easy and convenient for govt to say that everything's paid for, cuz it's not their own $. how many govt projects have ended up costing much more than it was proposed in the beginning? all of them! what makes this expensive health plan so different?
Piss me off? Please! You're too stupid to piss me off. No freebies, bill will fail. Gonna have to get a job LOSER! I'm not paying for your abortions so how about staying off your back long enough to collect a paycheck. Liberals are scum of the fucking earth, LOL!
They need to send all the Republican Party corporate whores who are for the continued killing of 44,000 Americans who are sentenced to death, just because they are poor, yet vote 100% every year to send OUR Billions to outer space,Israel,Iraq,and a host of other foreigners, to the Hague, for trial for crimes against humanity.
They've stuffed their freezers with Blue Cross cash, while Americans are left to die needlessly. Blue Cross CEO's need the Death Panels to decide they're fate.
if all you wanted to do was have a simple debate why did you have to pay off a Senator $300Million to get her vote to debate? You see Reid we can tell when you are lying, "YOUR LIPS ARE MOVING!". Why did she need to be paid off if all the problem was is to have a simple debate. Who you paying off next to get the votes to pass this?
Lying, perverted scum, I will not pay one cent for scum like you to steal and to hand out all over the world. If you lock me up then I will become a career criminal and take a thousand times the resources you would have gotten from me...bet on it.
Over 10 years they take $0.45 T from Medicare starting NOW (Rip seniors now & you later). But Bill only delivers in year 6-7. So theft from Medicare averages $1/3 Trillion per year. Prior to BILL Medicare bankruptcy was projected in 2014. Sad.
Rest paid from Surtaxes on
1) All things medical
2) All harmful food, bevs, smokes, booze
3) All people must buy insurance
4) Premium plans taxed
Then have long wait time for doctor. Change you can like?
Debt? Can you imagine Reid saying such a thing. These politicians are they cause of all our financial problems becasue they as so irresponsible with our money. Vote everyone out of office. Get rid of the people they are not representing us.
What are they afraid of ? That they'll be proven wrong for starters, and that they couldn't come up with a plan that matches or that is better than this one.
The Republicans have now been exposed as corporate whores by voting 100% to kill 44,000 Americans just because they are poor while lining their pockets with Blue Cross blood money.
They are unamerican,unchristian and unpatriotic and we no longer need them or their kind. Sick dogs is what they have become.
what a retard this politician is. He really thinks people dont get it. If you taxed a revenue for 3 years before the actual service started, of course the CBO would give it a good grade. This bill does nothing to lower cost of healthcare and only serves to gain revenue for the control of the healthcare system.
Hey Dingy Harry, put your 1.4 million tax fraud land deal you have and spend it on a brain you moron. Vegas doesn't even want you near the strip......
Republicans, too bad you lost. You now have exposed yourselves as greedy corporate whores who worked for the greedy Blue Cross and not for the poor American people!
We got our foot in the door so now we must demand a full blown single payer everyone on medicare bill, next! That is the only way to stop the greed of Blue Cross and other rip offs! We have them on the run now so don't stop until we have universal health care for all and put these Blue Cross crooks out of business and put their CEO's in prison or give them the death penalty for ripping off Americans
It's time to put the CEO's all on trial and the Republicans who have voted no as they are WHORES
The only way to cut debt well be through cutting out high cost treaments. stop covering the elderly. if babies are born with defects they'll get no high cost healthcare.
That's the only way to keep Obamacare from putting the nation in debt.
How do you think it would feel if your child was born with a heart defect that could be cured with a surgery?...nope, sorry, baby has to die. You seriously have to have some mental issues to think like that.
This new pla you kids want because you think you're going to get something free. does not cover babies born with high cost of keeping them alive.
Aswell as it don't cover the elderly.
Never forget Obama says the world is over populated. And needs to be unpoputalted. That's why Obama has John Holdren as a czar. John Holdren helped in writting the book on how to depopulate the world.
gallup poll america 40%conservative 38%independent 20% liberal.virgina and NJ in 09 and the house and senate 2010 i can't wait.the only fossil you will see is the one in your mirror
That's 100% understandable on a personal level. But lets not make your personal burden a public burden. Need food? Sure, thats the humane thing to do. Sheler, sure. Broken bone, sure. Etc, etc etc...
Aside from that, ever think of the future cost of saving that babies life? Natural selection has worked wonders to date. Throwing money and technology at it so we can inbreed the human species into a geneticly disease ridden pile of goo seems, well, unnatural...not to mention disastrous.
Reid should be hanged in public for his lies. The bill will cost taxpayers TRILLION$, and blow the deficit out of sight. So all the talk about the previous defict by dumbs was pure b.s., just like everything that comes out Reid's, Oblama's and Pelousy's mouths!
I like how people are so negative, negative in, means negative out. I have faith in this plan, and it's going to funny, when it works, and all of you conservatives look like idiots, no offense.
na⋅ive having or showing a lack of experience, judgment, or information; credulous: She's so naive she believes everything she reads. He has a very naive attitude toward politics.
Naturally I am an optimistic person myself. But Momma didn't raise a fool.
Now here's one I just found out with amended senate bill.
The fines of $75 the first year, $250- then $750 will be for also companies that don't provide healthcare for their employees.
The one that do now pay anywheres of $5000 to $12000 a year.
It'll be cheaper for companies to pay $750 a year and save all that money and just tell their empolyees get on the public option if they wnat healthcare.
And still you dumb ass kids don't see what is happening.
My problem with politicians - how do you know who to believe? I mean, none of us are able to really read or understand all that is in the bill, so we have to rely on what these guys say and they say different things. All people can really do is pick a side and just go with them based upon their own prejudices. I have no biased opinion on the whole thing myself. I just don't know who is telling me the truth, because they all have an agenda.
When America is going to join the 21st Industrialized countries on Health Care? Time to abandon the Taliban-like American health care system. like the Taliban who throw acid on the face of the women, the American health care system consider women a PRE-EXISTING CONDITION ns they either deny them care or they have to pay 40% more than men ..... Medieval discrimination and lack of Freedom.
I admire Obama because he is working 24/7 for this country with NO HELP neither from the Republicans, NOR from the Independents, NOR from the Democrats and NOR from the American citizens. They ALL allowed America to get a 4 stage economic cancer without lifting a finger and then they ALL sit on a chair waiting for Harry Potter's magic wand. Americans are childish, spoiled, violent, selfish and Hypocrites. They will be abandoned by the rst of the world and left in their own shit in the next years
From what you would view on television, that would be correct, yes. But Obama is exactly what this country does not need. You are very foolish and naive if you truly believe that.
It's morally wrong to leave 100 million Americans un or underinsured, 1 illness away from financial ruin. And it's wrong to burden small business with the outrageous insurance costs also -- saw a cool site; Balkingpoints ; incredible satellite view of earth
Walt471... Since when did liberals have morals? Now, you claim morals? hahaha
Let me get this straight you never seen a baby you didn't want murdered and you stipdly think a woman's right to choose outweighs a baby's right to live.
So now you claim moral superioity? Give me a break! Try calling up an auto insurance company AFTER you get in a wreck and tell them you want to buy insurance from them. See how that goes. Do yo have any idea what insurance is? Idiocy at its supreme!
The corporate whores lose and the Americans win!!!
We've still got work to do America! Next, we need get a single payer for all system!
This is just a start! We need to throw out of office all the corporate whore republicans who voted to kill 44,000 of our fellow Americans that were poor!
Get these commie corporate scums out of every office.
Well, open up your wallets folks! The Dem version of paid for is MUCH HIGHER TAXES FOR ALL! It wont be long before they ruin this country completely, with their rediculous socialist spending philosophy! Heaven help us all.
Now that this bill will pass, we need to start refining it to a single payer government wide system! That is the only system that will end the corporate whores from doing further damage to our country,ripping off the middle class and poor.
36 pills cost me $228.00 from the corporate whores. The same exact pills from the same exact american company cost me $6.00 in Mexico.
The scam has almost ended from these coprporate scums but we need to do more as their greed has run amuk.
You see this is a progression towards a greater socialist society. Where private enterprise fails, government appointees will step in and take over.
This takeover of capitalism can't happen without the government takeover of health care. Hopefully this will also lead to just one political party (led by progressive democrats) and no more dissent, i.e. Fox News reporting on another point of view.
Taxes on everything will go up, unemployment may rise but the people's party will prevail (democrat)
Now here's one I just found out with amended senate bill.
The fines of $75 the first year, $250- then $750 will be for also companies that don't provide healthcare for their employees.
The one that do now pay anywheres of $5000 to $12000 a year.
It'll be cheaper for companies to pay $750 a year and save all that money and just tell their empolyees get on the public option if they want healthcare.
And still you dumb ass kids don't see what is happening.
He fails to let everyone know. They know that millions will refuse this communism. And won't take part in it. They plan on taking in $100 of billions over the next 10 years just in fine and fees.
But fail to count the cost on trying to get they money as well as the prison cost.
Democrate are like Obama. And Obama is a liar and a thief.
This is just a simple plan by government to actually distroy our present healthcare system and replace it with full government run healthcare. The kids that want this bill won't be buying any policies and will rather pay the fines as will most Americans. Until of course they get sick and then can buy insurance because companies can't refuse. It will bankrupt the whole system. View Peter Shiff's video "Healthcare Reform is Socialized Medicine" for a full explanation. He hits the nail on the head.
Ha ha ha, you capitalist could have made your system work and covered virtually anyone who wanted it. You should have revoked the health Insurance Industry's exemption from antitrust laws, allowed them to compete in all 50 states, end all those state mandates and pass tort reform.
Now you people are going to get hit by some massive tax increases when it kicks in some years down the road, you'll be fined and jailed if you don't purchase approved health care and Medicare will collapse.
if this bill is signed into law this year. The taxs start this year. but not one person will beable to use it till 2014. and some untill 2015.
This bill can no way cover itself. Only if the taxs of each years covers that year.
so the Democrate lie (it's what they do best), they start charging now (5 years of collecting taxs) in hopes it'll be enough to cover everyone just the first year.
but like all Democrates, they'll dip into the funds to pay on other government programs and pork.
You are correct, I totally agree. You see, I'm different from the other progressive democrats in that I'm a straight shooter. Taxes will go up and the benefits most people took for granted will disappear. Just be glad you're not a baby boomer because Medicare is about to be decimated and your out of pocket is going to skyrocket.
But we must all sacrifice for the good of all. The Europeans have been doing it for decades and it's not fair that American's have better health care.
It's not fair that Americans have better healthcare than Europeans?
So your answer is to bring one down to the other level as opposed to bring the other up to the firsts? IT must be that socialists education you got. In your mind, that was free as well.
the goofball Republicans are afraid of losing their insurers' checks. These lying, theiving bums make big money reading scripts that the insurers provide. The insurers pay these crooked Republicans big bucks - to deny health care to milions of Americans. Look at their bank accounts, see how their bank accounts increase as they (Boehner, Sessons, McConnell, etc) parrot the insurers' scripts. These thugs collect their money and let Americans die every day. It's simple, it's easy money.
This is great! We almost have total control of the American economy. We have banking, the mortgage industry, automobiles and now health care. Next will be Cap & Trade and hopefully pass some kind of fairness in broadcasting legislation and do some IRS audits on Fox News, then they'll cease to be a problem. MSNBC got on board and they will too.
Socialism is taking over without firing a shot. Private health care will be thing of the past, except for our leaders. They deserve better health care.
Thank God, this bill will now pass! Now, we need to demand a full single payer system and build on this bill as it is still too weak and Blue Cross needs their butts kicked for ripping off America.
Demand congress to next go after full single payer, medicare for all!
We really need this to make sure EVERYONE has health care, not just the rich.
Yeah, great...he can rattle off bullets from a couple of cards, but he offers up NO credible facts to substantiate what he's claiming. For all practical purposes, it's akin to a sleezy used car sales commercial.
In the halls of academia, they enforce the "Show Your Work" rule not only to prove your answer, but to show that you indeed know what the hell you're talking about. He has done neither of these.
Time for the smoke and mirrors to vanish and get to the truth of the matter.
LIAR..LIAR..LIAR...all politicians are working together to steal our liberties all while packing their pockets with graft. Vote people..vote them all out and support term limits. America is bankrupt! I am afraid of the idiots in the government sector controlling anything...and I am afraid that we will be taxed to death by the "elite". Socialism sucks!
texas224 in darkness. Senate bill is smoke, mirrors, robbery and lies. Over 10 years steel $0.45 T from Medicare starting NOW (poor seniors). But care starts in year 6-7 years, so Medicare stealing = 0.45*10/3.5= $1.25 T. Then the cost averages more than $1/3 T per year. Note Medicare bankruptcy date is 2014. Insane! Rest paid from surtaxes on: 1) all things medical; 2) all harmful food, bevs, smokes, booze; 3) all people must buy Ins or be fines/jailed; 4) premium plans are taxed. Like it?
This is no good. ask experienced seniors. They know what they talk about. America is going bankrupt look back great depression. They saying stop bullshitting.
you got newspaper jobs are gone. job creation is going meltdown. more companies going to overseas.
Does anyone really believe this is budget nuetral? It's actually going to save money? We're going to increase coverage, increase services, and it's going to cost less?????
This bill is nothing more than the first step at socialized medicine. Does Washington not remember what happened when they tried to put people who couldn't afford a house into new homes? To think the same principle wont apply to healthcare is insane! To think health care is intrinsically different from any other good or service is beyond naive. We have 1 party, and none of them understand insurance, healthcare or economics.
the democrats dont care about you. they just want all the illegals to come to this country. throw money at them so they can bring 5 or 6 children. have them eat, shit, drink and everything else free. all they ask for is their vote. we spend so much money taking care of these people. evry time one of them gets involved in a gang violence, its the tax payer that ahs to pay for those assholes. everytime they bring a kids, its teh taxpayer who spends money for that kids to go to school.
Illegal immigrants have been denied welfare, medicare, and medicaid since 1996. They actually add a surplus to social security because they pay into with fake social security numbers but never collect. So, WTF are you talking about? Read a book fucktard - there is severe labor shortage in agriculture. Illegal immigrants are the only ones picking your food you dumb shit. We need a better guest worker program - not an ignorant redneck like yourself spouting out horse shit.
Hey don't worry it is paid for already. He wouldn't try to swindle us. Why don't you just trust him. Can't we just pass this bit of Socialism and be happy about it? Eh no.
Go collect your social security check you hypocritical piece of shit. I hope to God you lose your job and health insurance and then get cancer before the new legislation becomes active. Go to hell asshole.
If someones on Social Security they qualify for Medicare and possibly Medicaid. I think you meant to say go collect your welfare check. But if they were on welfare they would qualify for Medicaid.
Or if they choose they can always go to a county hospital to get seen.
And just to make sure you're not a complete idiot, Obama care doesn't prevent cancer. Or is this some new Messiahcare Insurance.
I am actually a member of the Imuminati -reptilian mind control project and I have been sent to youtube by Ron Paul to remake the Federal reserve and post comments in favor of Medicare and Medicaid so that we can eventually take over your physical care.
Ouch that hurts. Hey you must be upset that you bought a house, and a car with Obama bucks and then due to the economy going south, lost your job too- unlike you, I am truly sorry man(or woman).
I find it disgusting that these democrats find it allowable to tax for 3 years before this goes in effect. The only reason why they are doing it that way is to make it look paid for in the cbo. If you have to generate 3years of taxes to make it feasible, I call it a failure and a robbery. Not to mention that they probably wont be setting any of the revenue from it aside like they were SUPPOSED to do for social security!
I call $3 trillion spent for an unprovoked and pointless war in Iraq robbery. Paying for Americans to get affordable healthcare so they don't die needlessly is common sense. Fucking neocons.
God why do people like you make shit up to get you're useless point across.
The total cost is now "($934258995005) " Thats 33 trillion less than Obama has put is into debt in the last 9 Months. Get a fucking clue and find out exactly how much the war costs before spewing your BS.
The vote went well tonight so they will now open the debate.
As the speakers come forward see if you can pick out the ones who're HEALTH INSURANCE COMPANY WHORES so we can drive them from office in their next election!!!
Harry Reid has no clue along with all the Democrats what they are doing to this nation. Idiots thieves and they work to deceive all Americans to fuck us all over all for their own gain.
Why don't you enlighten us? What did that uneducated, alcoholic Mormon Glenn Beck tell you to be afraid of this week? Why don't you take Beck's balls out of your mouth and think for yourself for a change? I'm sorry that the money can't be spent to killing people in Iran like you'd prefer. I'll send an apology card to Dick Cheney. You'd rather Americans go bankrupt paying for chemotherapy. We'd have healthcare reform already if it were in the best interests of Israel's security.
Anyone knows, raising taxes and spending will lead to inflation causing price's of everything to go up. You are living in a Mr' Spock world of intelligence and that is dangerous.
Reid is right...there really is no debt. Everything is paid for but the elitists who own this country and just like the banks and bizes that took bailout are controlled now, so will your body be--whcih is what theyre after. Sure here is a pill, now give us your soul.
what a bunch of bull$hit, you dont want to debate this bill. hell why dont you let the american people read it ? If its such a good deal then you all need to give up your tax payer funded gold club medical care you have now and get in line with the rest of us. I got the tar who has the feathers . time to ride them out on a rail.
Harry Reid and all these socialists should rot in hell for what they are about to do to this country. The plan is nothing will start to be implemented until 2013. Why you ask? Because they want Obama to be re-elected in 2012. This in of itself should demonstrate what they even know how devasting it will affect the country in a negative way. They want to secure his re-election before they shove this monster down our throats! God help us all!
"God help us all! Healthcare reform" You didn't give a flying fuck when Bush was tapping American phones without warrants, leaking CIA agents' names, murdering Habeus Corpus, and ignoring August 2001 intelligence memos. But fuck all that - Healthcare reform! It's the end of the world! Neocon moron.
Wow patriot act compared to the pelosi/reid/obama healthcare.
Thats brilliant.
One designed to protect the country and the other to subsidize insurance companies and limit healthcare coverage. Who's the fucking moron?
If you liberals only had half a brain, I bet you still think healthcare is free. Heres a clue youll pay ~$250 a month for crappie insurance and youll be forced to pay comrade.
Oh read up on the lone wolf provision maybe our soldiers in Fort hood would be alive today.
andrew23.... haha don't jump out a window. We wouldn't want you to off yourself! But if you do jump, you are better off to do it before this bill passes as your treatment in the hospital will be vastly different. You will quicky get treated and have access to the best doctors and latest technologies if you jump sooner than later. If you jump after the bill passesyou will be waiting for inferior treatment and underpaid and over worked doctors. So, good luck and choose wisely my friend.
3 trillion? You are so full of shit. Both wars Iraq and Afghanistan cost under 1 trillion. Go to the liberal site costofwar(dot)com and get an education.
The reason for the deaths in Iraq was because we fought this war on the cheap due to these very assholes like reied and pelosi defunding the troops.
So, don't make it seem like this healthcare bill is cheap compares to the war. IT simply makes you look ignorant.
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truthgroove 2 years ago
Stop the current plan. Real cost is 1/3 trillion dollars per year starting on the 7th year. The yearly take away from YOUR Medicare fund is $50 billion per year ramping up NOW. Will you get MORE for LESS? Hardly! The plan is to spread the wealth. Everyone who works will have more TAXES and SURtaxes on all things medical and all things perceived to be bad for your health. Everyone will be FORCED to have a plan or be fined. Where is freedom? What is socialism? Why work? Where is the free stuff?
visitorxox 2 years ago
Tomorrows special at Mcdonalds The Obama meal deal. Here is the deal you order something to eat and the guy behind you has to pay.
sparkyhalfbear 2 years ago 2
You gonna buy me a happy meal?
babiesboy1933 2 years ago
That and your medical bill for your clogged arteries that it causes
sparkyhalfbear 2 years ago
could you buy me a video game instead?
babiesboy1933 2 years ago
sorry ,check out the 'what if' speech by Ron Paul on youtube, but you better get your moms permission first
sparkyhalfbear 2 years ago
What if everybody had healthcare?
babiesboy1933 2 years ago
What ARE they afraid of???
babiesboy1933 2 years ago
Who's they? Everyone wants better and less costly care, this isn't it.
Its just more welfare. Its primarily a chronic or catastrophic illness issue(75%). You get far better bang out of setting up a paperless/record free treatment facilities for routine care(25%). People can just walk in get treated, enter name, SS, ICD9 codes, done. You eliminate insurance and malpractice altogether out of routine care. That will cut about 16% of total medical costs. Far more than this plan will save.
coffeenuts44 2 years ago
Its all paid for folks, its all free baby yea baby its all free. Don't worry my sweet slaves, it will all be over soon....
putittogether 2 years ago
What are you babbling about? I'm nobodys slave.
babiesboy1933 2 years ago
@babiesboy1933 , of but you are babiesbao, you are my State slave bitch. In fact I will sit on my fat ass and smoke dope, while you go out and work for the governments, and intern you my slave bitch will pay 65% of every penny you make to the State.
putittogether 2 years ago
@putittogether, you really need to come apart and put yourself back together. You make absolutely no sense to me. I don't even have a job.
babiesboy1933 2 years ago
I hope you get your health cares. I will get 20% more of your labor. It will go from 65% to 85%. Sweet!!! Back to work my slave bitch, back to work.
putittogether 2 years ago
@putittogether, what are you talking about. I'm 14yrs. old. I get my healthcare from my mom.
babiesboy1933 2 years ago
@babiesboy1933: That's great news. Stay healthy kid. I am going to need healthy slaves to work for the State.
Its ok, I will let you keep 20% of your bodies labor, in return I promise world peace.
putittogether 2 years ago
@putittogether: Old Dude, you really need to lay off of the sauce late @ night. I don't care if they tax the hell out of those rich bastards. They've been living off the backs of everyday people too long. Long live Obama. I hope he becomes KING!!!
babiesboy1933 2 years ago
@babiesboy1933 -young dude, I don't drink of take drugs. And I am grateful for your fundamental ignorance of economics. You are going to make an excellent slave.
putittogether 2 years ago
Taxpayers will get less. Medicare people will get much less and be denied some services depending on age. Poor people may get a little more. People who don't work will get the most. It's called spread the wealth. Many of you voted for it. Most of you have been paying for a nice retirement for your golden years. Sorry, youre a bit too old.
visitorxox 2 years ago
"WELLNESS THINGS WE DO IN THIS BILL"???? HEY WOMEN...forget about "wellness" w/Mamograms!
Let me tell you Dirty Harry...you may be able to look at a picture of a woman's breat in a medical book that's rotted away by cancer...But _I'M AN RN_...and I know the stench of that rot...what it smells like...what a woman has to lve with until she dies...in agony...with that disease. NO...YOU aren't "CONCERNED" with wellness...don't feed me that!
Married2aMARINE 2 years ago
Obama is marching us straight off a cliff with this pack of lies he calls "healthcare."
Dagney77 2 years ago 3
Its all paid for. By you, Mr & Ms American.Yes, money is taken from Medicare benefits. Surtax levied on unhealthy stuff, health businesses, expensive health care plans, etc. But the sneakiest way is to pay for it is through a cheaper, devalued dollar. The US debt load is too high and going higher. Now the government is spending printed money it doesnt have; Just like homebuyers a few years ago. This is more dangerous than the treasonous health care bill itself. INFLATION PAYS. Hurts all of us
visitorxox 2 years ago
MrSTANDFORAMERICA...I agree with you. Enough is enough!
jwv651 2 years ago
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I got an email from a man named Richard Saskle.
ToniMaples 2 years ago
Yeah, So this is the change. You better get that done, cause come mid terms, I suspect most of you dems are going to be looking for a job. It's just a matter of time before America goes 3rd party.
Cosmonater 2 years ago 2
it's so easy and convenient for govt to say that everything's paid for, cuz it's not their own $. how many govt projects have ended up costing much more than it was proposed in the beginning? all of them! what makes this expensive health plan so different?
jimpodi 2 years ago 2
BULLSHIT ALERT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
nomosocialists 2 years ago
really a trillion dollars I am fucking sick of this.
Where is the money coming from. Oh wait are you borrowing money. I could make a better Idea then these retards in the goverment
rainick 2 years ago
what would take to pay for is stop sending $100's of billion to other counties as aid. Most African countries. cut out all funding to he UN.
stop handing out welfare to illegals would found a 1/4 of it alone.
Then cut out all welfare for those that have been on welfare over 5 years. stop making it a way of life.
MrSTANDFORAMERICA 2 years ago 2
Its all paid for folks. A politician said so, it must be true.
putittogether 2 years ago
If this bill passes, the death of America for all.Yep,even for you Liberals.
dmaul7 2 years ago 3
Piss me off? Please! You're too stupid to piss me off. No freebies, bill will fail. Gonna have to get a job LOSER! I'm not paying for your abortions so how about staying off your back long enough to collect a paycheck. Liberals are scum of the fucking earth, LOL!
maximusdecimus888 2 years ago
more taxes ... death panels ... debt
That's what we get
ILIADsOdyssey 2 years ago
Wow, he explained how it all works huh. lol whatta freakin Clown.
awfulone 2 years ago
Fully paid for with borrowed money. Who is this clown trying to fool?
Unkn0wnGuy 2 years ago 2
I have absolutely no trust in Obama, Reid and Pelosi. 2010 and 2012 can't come soon enough...
dmmadde 2 years ago 3
kekemankek, you have to be the biggest coward on YouTube. I would pay good money to see Dick Cheney personally waterboard you until you die.
maximusdecimus888 2 years ago
Oh yeah maximus, gimme some more of that famous Christian love. Feels good.
I love pissing wingnuts off.
kekemankek 2 years ago
Everything is fully paid for?
Does that include the taxpayers money he used as bribes to get the final few democrats to vote for this monstrosity?
mickeysears 2 years ago 2
They need to send all the Republican Party corporate whores who are for the continued killing of 44,000 Americans who are sentenced to death, just because they are poor, yet vote 100% every year to send OUR Billions to outer space,Israel,Iraq,and a host of other foreigners, to the Hague, for trial for crimes against humanity.
They've stuffed their freezers with Blue Cross cash, while Americans are left to die needlessly. Blue Cross CEO's need the Death Panels to decide they're fate.
1911arthur 2 years ago
The only guy they caught stuffing money in his freezer was a DEMOCRAT.
mickeysears 2 years ago 3
if all you wanted to do was have a simple debate why did you have to pay off a Senator $300Million to get her vote to debate? You see Reid we can tell when you are lying, "YOUR LIPS ARE MOVING!". Why did she need to be paid off if all the problem was is to have a simple debate. Who you paying off next to get the votes to pass this?
100days2bestseller 2 years ago
Reid is a traitor and a terrorist. I say we put him in Guantanamo for a time out. Clearly he hates America and should be charged with treason.
maximusdecimus888 2 years ago
You're a tool. I know your type. Anyone opposing your extreme irrational views "hates America".
No. Shut the fuck up. You're doing more harm to the country with that mindset than you could imagine.
kekemankek 2 years ago
like hell it is, reid is a lying moron.
duckbar2 2 years ago
Lying, perverted scum, I will not pay one cent for scum like you to steal and to hand out all over the world. If you lock me up then I will become a career criminal and take a thousand times the resources you would have gotten from me...bet on it.
chessgame1960 2 years ago
"Everything Is Fully Paid For"
The AP is like a propaganda machine.
putittogether 2 years ago 2
Man these Dems are getting some really good drugs !
hobo59 2 years ago
He's lying about everything.
ChrisfromSMD 2 years ago
Senate BILL is smoke, mirrors, robbery and lies.
Over 10 years they take $0.45 T from Medicare starting NOW (Rip seniors now & you later). But Bill only delivers in year 6-7. So theft from Medicare averages $1/3 Trillion per year. Prior to BILL Medicare bankruptcy was projected in 2014. Sad.
Rest paid from Surtaxes on
1) All things medical
2) All harmful food, bevs, smokes, booze
3) All people must buy insurance
4) Premium plans taxed
Then have long wait time for doctor. Change you can like?
visitorxox 2 years ago
Debt? Can you imagine Reid saying such a thing. These politicians are they cause of all our financial problems becasue they as so irresponsible with our money. Vote everyone out of office. Get rid of the people they are not representing us.
czubspenx 2 years ago 2
What are they afraid of ? That they'll be proven wrong for starters, and that they couldn't come up with a plan that matches or that is better than this one.
BenJr01 2 years ago
Ummm, I would take the GOP plan over this pieces of shit legislation any day. At least that plan actually REDUCES the cost of insurance.
Zoklor 2 years ago
So just where in the constitution does the federal government have the authority to force all Americans into a government run health care program?
warman58 2 years ago 4
This guy is an idiot. Come on NV - show this asshat the door
Romulus2009 2 years ago 5
They are not afraid. They know this bill is a takeover of the healthcare industry. You have paid for nothing. It is all smoke and mirrors.
CommonSenseJoe 2 years ago
domestic enemy
has been for quite sometime....
arizonas arrogance is going to screw us all
darangm 2 years ago
The Republicans have now been exposed as corporate whores by voting 100% to kill 44,000 Americans just because they are poor while lining their pockets with Blue Cross blood money.
They are unamerican,unchristian and unpatriotic and we no longer need them or their kind. Sick dogs is what they have become.
1911arthur 2 years ago
what a retard this politician is. He really thinks people dont get it. If you taxed a revenue for 3 years before the actual service started, of course the CBO would give it a good grade. This bill does nothing to lower cost of healthcare and only serves to gain revenue for the control of the healthcare system.
Zoklor 2 years ago 3
2.5 TRILLION ... lol what a joke; it aint gonna ever be "paid" for...
and aside: The Iraq war did not cost 0.4trillion more than we already spend on the troops (if they were sitting at home).
ILIADsOdyssey 2 years ago
Mr. Reid "YOU LIE"!!!!!!
dchrbac51 2 years ago
Hey Dingy Harry, put your 1.4 million tax fraud land deal you have and spend it on a brain you moron. Vegas doesn't even want you near the strip......
97VR4 2 years ago
It's the Democrats that don't want to debate, not us.
typicalwhiteperson7 2 years ago
You Lie Mr Reid
Zooksboardshop 2 years ago
Republicans, too bad you lost. You now have exposed yourselves as greedy corporate whores who worked for the greedy Blue Cross and not for the poor American people!
Too bad.
1911arthur 2 years ago
We got our foot in the door so now we must demand a full blown single payer everyone on medicare bill, next! That is the only way to stop the greed of Blue Cross and other rip offs! We have them on the run now so don't stop until we have universal health care for all and put these Blue Cross crooks out of business and put their CEO's in prison or give them the death penalty for ripping off Americans
It's time to put the CEO's all on trial and the Republicans who have voted no as they are WHORES
1911arthur 2 years ago
The only way to cut debt well be through cutting out high cost treaments. stop covering the elderly. if babies are born with defects they'll get no high cost healthcare.
That's the only way to keep Obamacare from putting the nation in debt.
MrSTANDFORAMERICA 2 years ago
that is a horrible thing to say.
How do you think it would feel if your child was born with a heart defect that could be cured with a surgery?...nope, sorry, baby has to die. You seriously have to have some mental issues to think like that.
Zoklor 2 years ago 2
Hey I didn't say it, Obama did.
so it's Obama with the mental issues.
This new pla you kids want because you think you're going to get something free. does not cover babies born with high cost of keeping them alive.
Aswell as it don't cover the elderly.
Never forget Obama says the world is over populated. And needs to be unpoputalted. That's why Obama has John Holdren as a czar. John Holdren helped in writting the book on how to depopulate the world.
MrSTANDFORAMERICA 2 years ago
Won't be long and fossils like you will cease to exist in America. Can't wait.
SarahPalinSucksDicks 2 years ago
gallup poll america 40%conservative 38%independent 20% liberal.virgina and NJ in 09 and the house and senate 2010 i can't wait.the only fossil you will see is the one in your mirror
exweez 2 years ago
That's 100% understandable on a personal level. But lets not make your personal burden a public burden. Need food? Sure, thats the humane thing to do. Sheler, sure. Broken bone, sure. Etc, etc etc...
Aside from that, ever think of the future cost of saving that babies life? Natural selection has worked wonders to date. Throwing money and technology at it so we can inbreed the human species into a geneticly disease ridden pile of goo seems, well, unnatural...not to mention disastrous.
coffeenuts44 2 years ago 2
@coffeenuts44 - That's way to much logic and sanity for Americans.
putittogether 2 years ago
lol everything paid for,by who the chinese?
exweez 2 years ago 2
Associated Press is biased.
jpchronic420 2 years ago
Reid should be hanged in public for his lies. The bill will cost taxpayers TRILLION$, and blow the deficit out of sight. So all the talk about the previous defict by dumbs was pure b.s., just like everything that comes out Reid's, Oblama's and Pelousy's mouths!
This bill is a death prescription for the nation.
Zile77 2 years ago 2
What a load of horse shit.
Typical from Reid.
GrievousCommander 2 years ago
This guy is such a degenerate!
HowTheWorldWorks 2 years ago
I like how people are so negative, negative in, means negative out. I have faith in this plan, and it's going to funny, when it works, and all of you conservatives look like idiots, no offense.
CJCA915 2 years ago
You are a complete fool. Congratulations, you are another notch in Reid's belt.
houstonrockets616 2 years ago
No, I am just optimistic.
CJCA915 2 years ago
na⋅ive having or showing a lack of experience, judgment, or information; credulous: She's so naive she believes everything she reads. He has a very naive attitude toward politics.
Naturally I am an optimistic person myself. But Momma didn't raise a fool.
houstonrockets616 2 years ago
so are you ready to pay 5 years of taxs on it before antone is allowed their first trip to see a doctor from it.
Are you reday for the mandate from the day it is signed into law to have healthcare and if marries with kids, them as well.
For 5 years you'll have to be covered by your employer or buy a private plan.
now watch what coming next about your employer.
MrSTANDFORAMERICA 2 years ago
Now here's one I just found out with amended senate bill.
The fines of $75 the first year, $250- then $750 will be for also companies that don't provide healthcare for their employees.
The one that do now pay anywheres of $5000 to $12000 a year.
It'll be cheaper for companies to pay $750 a year and save all that money and just tell their empolyees get on the public option if they wnat healthcare.
And still you dumb ass kids don't see what is happening.
MrSTANDFORAMERICA 2 years ago
LIES, LIES, LIES
WulfBand 2 years ago
My problem with politicians - how do you know who to believe? I mean, none of us are able to really read or understand all that is in the bill, so we have to rely on what these guys say and they say different things. All people can really do is pick a side and just go with them based upon their own prejudices. I have no biased opinion on the whole thing myself. I just don't know who is telling me the truth, because they all have an agenda.
MaggieLovesJimmy 2 years ago
Probably because he is telling the truth.
grimshawr 2 years ago
2.5trillion ... is paid for ... lol
ILIADsOdyssey 2 years ago
When America is going to join the 21st Industrialized countries on Health Care? Time to abandon the Taliban-like American health care system. like the Taliban who throw acid on the face of the women, the American health care system consider women a PRE-EXISTING CONDITION ns they either deny them care or they have to pay 40% more than men ..... Medieval discrimination and lack of Freedom.
MrFreedomdemocracy 2 years ago
I admire Obama because he is working 24/7 for this country with NO HELP neither from the Republicans, NOR from the Independents, NOR from the Democrats and NOR from the American citizens. They ALL allowed America to get a 4 stage economic cancer without lifting a finger and then they ALL sit on a chair waiting for Harry Potter's magic wand. Americans are childish, spoiled, violent, selfish and Hypocrites. They will be abandoned by the rst of the world and left in their own shit in the next years
MrFreedomdemocracy 2 years ago
From what you would view on television, that would be correct, yes. But Obama is exactly what this country does not need. You are very foolish and naive if you truly believe that.
houstonrockets616 2 years ago
Attention Harry Reid;
The American people are not fools and they DON"T believe a word your saying when you tell them this bill is completely paid for.
The actual financial outlay for this bill will be FAR more than they are estimating.
Did you EVER see a government program that came in at or under budget? I sure as hell haven't!
It is simply a power grab by progressive liberals.
robert7232 2 years ago
Harry is such a idiot. He is a fool.
budwise1949 2 years ago
If Congress listened to the people...
If Congress was not so corrupt...
If the government feared the people...
If the people did not fear the government...
If we believed in limited government...
If the Constitution was actually being obeyed...
If the government actually listened to common sense...
If statists and socialists did not exist...
Then this bill would not exist. In the not so distant future, we will no longer be the United States. We will be the People's Republic of America.
TheDirknad 2 years ago
It's morally wrong to leave 100 million Americans un or underinsured, 1 illness away from financial ruin. And it's wrong to burden small business with the outrageous insurance costs also -- saw a cool site; Balkingpoints ; incredible satellite view of earth
Walt471 2 years ago
Walt471... Since when did liberals have morals? Now, you claim morals? hahaha
Let me get this straight you never seen a baby you didn't want murdered and you stipdly think a woman's right to choose outweighs a baby's right to live.
So now you claim moral superioity? Give me a break! Try calling up an auto insurance company AFTER you get in a wreck and tell them you want to buy insurance from them. See how that goes. Do yo have any idea what insurance is? Idiocy at its supreme!
aSingleDallasGuy 2 years ago
The corporate whores lose and the Americans win!!!
We've still got work to do America! Next, we need get a single payer for all system!
This is just a start! We need to throw out of office all the corporate whore republicans who voted to kill 44,000 of our fellow Americans that were poor!
Get these commie corporate scums out of every office.
Boy, are they greedy.
1911arthur 2 years ago
Harry....YOU LIE
linkin622 2 years ago
Well, open up your wallets folks! The Dem version of paid for is MUCH HIGHER TAXES FOR ALL! It wont be long before they ruin this country completely, with their rediculous socialist spending philosophy! Heaven help us all.
jerseyjoe99982002 2 years ago
Go to hell Harry. This is not fully paid for.
cheyennestar 2 years ago
Now that this bill will pass, we need to start refining it to a single payer government wide system! That is the only system that will end the corporate whores from doing further damage to our country,ripping off the middle class and poor.
36 pills cost me $228.00 from the corporate whores. The same exact pills from the same exact american company cost me $6.00 in Mexico.
The scam has almost ended from these coprporate scums but we need to do more as their greed has run amuk.
1911arthur 2 years ago
I'll tell you what im afraid of. Sociopaths & Eugenics!
stuntdoogie 2 years ago
Aomeone upload SNL's episode from Last night. They Destroyed Obama in the Opening Skit!! finally the Honeymoon is over.
tampabayproductions 2 years ago 2
I guess the Constitution really is dead, RIP.
LawyerScumGhost 2 years ago 3
You see this is a progression towards a greater socialist society. Where private enterprise fails, government appointees will step in and take over.
This takeover of capitalism can't happen without the government takeover of health care. Hopefully this will also lead to just one political party (led by progressive democrats) and no more dissent, i.e. Fox News reporting on another point of view.
Taxes on everything will go up, unemployment may rise but the people's party will prevail (democrat)
1ruskie101 2 years ago 2
Well it sure sounds like you sucked down the Kool-Aid. Just one question. Which do you like better? The Orange or The Grape?
mickeysears 2 years ago
Hell in a handbasket.
shampoovta 2 years ago
The "Brain Chip" that they invented needs money put into it. It could help millions including tbi vets. Check my channel for the article.
bpyjktgiuk 2 years ago
Human Enslavement rates (of middle class and lower classes) by Governments
1. USA = 52% of the humans working lifetime
2. Uk = 68% of working lifetime
3. Russia = 24% of working lifetime
4. Chinia = 15 % of working lifetime
Just a little simple math for the brainwashed slaves.
putittogether 2 years ago
What do they consider lifetime?
jimisback 2 years ago
This bill is the EXACT DEFINITION of Fascism.
But since college kids are brainwashed to believe that the definition of fascism is something else, its no wonder why this Bill is passing
putittogether 2 years ago 2
Now here's one I just found out with amended senate bill.
The fines of $75 the first year, $250- then $750 will be for also companies that don't provide healthcare for their employees.
The one that do now pay anywheres of $5000 to $12000 a year.
It'll be cheaper for companies to pay $750 a year and save all that money and just tell their empolyees get on the public option if they want healthcare.
And still you dumb ass kids don't see what is happening.
MrSTANDFORAMERICA 2 years ago
He fails to let everyone know. They know that millions will refuse this communism. And won't take part in it. They plan on taking in $100 of billions over the next 10 years just in fine and fees.
But fail to count the cost on trying to get they money as well as the prison cost.
Democrate are like Obama. And Obama is a liar and a thief.
MrSTANDFORAMERICA 2 years ago
This is just a simple plan by government to actually distroy our present healthcare system and replace it with full government run healthcare. The kids that want this bill won't be buying any policies and will rather pay the fines as will most Americans. Until of course they get sick and then can buy insurance because companies can't refuse. It will bankrupt the whole system. View Peter Shiff's video "Healthcare Reform is Socialized Medicine" for a full explanation. He hits the nail on the head.
mickeysears 2 years ago
buy or go to jail
Bux7777 2 years ago
Ha ha ha, you capitalist could have made your system work and covered virtually anyone who wanted it. You should have revoked the health Insurance Industry's exemption from antitrust laws, allowed them to compete in all 50 states, end all those state mandates and pass tort reform.
Now you people are going to get hit by some massive tax increases when it kicks in some years down the road, you'll be fined and jailed if you don't purchase approved health care and Medicare will collapse.
1ruskie101 2 years ago 2
if this bill is signed into law this year. The taxs start this year. but not one person will beable to use it till 2014. and some untill 2015.
This bill can no way cover itself. Only if the taxs of each years covers that year.
so the Democrate lie (it's what they do best), they start charging now (5 years of collecting taxs) in hopes it'll be enough to cover everyone just the first year.
but like all Democrates, they'll dip into the funds to pay on other government programs and pork.
MrSTANDFORAMERICA 2 years ago
You are correct, I totally agree. You see, I'm different from the other progressive democrats in that I'm a straight shooter. Taxes will go up and the benefits most people took for granted will disappear. Just be glad you're not a baby boomer because Medicare is about to be decimated and your out of pocket is going to skyrocket.
But we must all sacrifice for the good of all. The Europeans have been doing it for decades and it's not fair that American's have better health care.
1ruskie101 2 years ago
It's not fair that Americans have better healthcare than Europeans?
So your answer is to bring one down to the other level as opposed to bring the other up to the firsts? IT must be that socialists education you got. In your mind, that was free as well.
mickeysears 2 years ago 4
Harry,
the goofball Republicans are afraid of losing their insurers' checks. These lying, theiving bums make big money reading scripts that the insurers provide. The insurers pay these crooked Republicans big bucks - to deny health care to milions of Americans. Look at their bank accounts, see how their bank accounts increase as they (Boehner, Sessons, McConnell, etc) parrot the insurers' scripts. These thugs collect their money and let Americans die every day. It's simple, it's easy money.
BertGriffin88 2 years ago
This is great! We almost have total control of the American economy. We have banking, the mortgage industry, automobiles and now health care. Next will be Cap & Trade and hopefully pass some kind of fairness in broadcasting legislation and do some IRS audits on Fox News, then they'll cease to be a problem. MSNBC got on board and they will too.
Socialism is taking over without firing a shot. Private health care will be thing of the past, except for our leaders. They deserve better health care.
1ruskie101 2 years ago
Thank God, this bill will now pass! Now, we need to demand a full single payer system and build on this bill as it is still too weak and Blue Cross needs their butts kicked for ripping off America.
Demand congress to next go after full single payer, medicare for all!
We really need this to make sure EVERYONE has health care, not just the rich.
1911arthur 2 years ago
Yeah, great...he can rattle off bullets from a couple of cards, but he offers up NO credible facts to substantiate what he's claiming. For all practical purposes, it's akin to a sleezy used car sales commercial.
In the halls of academia, they enforce the "Show Your Work" rule not only to prove your answer, but to show that you indeed know what the hell you're talking about. He has done neither of these.
Time for the smoke and mirrors to vanish and get to the truth of the matter.
gbhobson 2 years ago
LIAR..LIAR..LIAR...all politicians are working together to steal our liberties all while packing their pockets with graft. Vote people..vote them all out and support term limits. America is bankrupt! I am afraid of the idiots in the government sector controlling anything...and I am afraid that we will be taxed to death by the "elite". Socialism sucks!
blunderbus21 2 years ago
texas224 in darkness. Senate bill is smoke, mirrors, robbery and lies. Over 10 years steel $0.45 T from Medicare starting NOW (poor seniors). But care starts in year 6-7 years, so Medicare stealing = 0.45*10/3.5= $1.25 T. Then the cost averages more than $1/3 T per year. Note Medicare bankruptcy date is 2014. Insane! Rest paid from surtaxes on: 1) all things medical; 2) all harmful food, bevs, smokes, booze; 3) all people must buy Ins or be fines/jailed; 4) premium plans are taxed. Like it?
visitorxox 2 years ago
Just pass the bill already. FUCK IT!!! FUCK THE COST. YOU GOT A BETTER SOLUTION? THEN TELL THE INSURANCE COMPANINES TO STOP RIPPING OUR $ OFF.
texas224 2 years ago 2
Hahaha, fully paid for? By who? Our great great great great great great great grandchildren...oh and the Chinese?
Hows that hopenchange working out for you now America?
deftech79 2 years ago
Everything is fully paid for? What is this a**hole smoking?
marti0668 2 years ago
This is no good. ask experienced seniors. They know what they talk about. America is going bankrupt look back great depression. They saying stop bullshitting.
you got newspaper jobs are gone. job creation is going meltdown. more companies going to overseas.
scarymarket 2 years ago
Does anyone really believe this is budget nuetral? It's actually going to save money? We're going to increase coverage, increase services, and it's going to cost less?????
I want some of what they're smoking.....
gdshaver 2 years ago
Losing all you worked for in your life to medical bills is uncool.
sydsays1 2 years ago 4
This bill is nothing more than the first step at socialized medicine. Does Washington not remember what happened when they tried to put people who couldn't afford a house into new homes? To think the same principle wont apply to healthcare is insane! To think health care is intrinsically different from any other good or service is beyond naive. We have 1 party, and none of them understand insurance, healthcare or economics.
VictoryCough 2 years ago 2
Yanks are too dumb to see this as a good thing. They'd rather get ripped off by insurance companies. Fuckin idiots
sydsays1 2 years ago
Your profile says you're an American. But I guess it doesn't matter because you're still a moron.
50 MRI machines in Ontario- 50 MRi machines in NY. MRI wait time in Ontario 100 days in USA 1-2 days.
General surgery baseline wait 121 days, cancer 81 days, bypass 41 days.
I think its just because your ignorant that you can make stupid claims like Yanks are too dumb. Here's another one Pediatric Surgery 273 days.
IF your curios go to the Ontario Ministry of health and long term care website.
makeinstall 2 years ago
the democrats dont care about you. they just want all the illegals to come to this country. throw money at them so they can bring 5 or 6 children. have them eat, shit, drink and everything else free. all they ask for is their vote. we spend so much money taking care of these people. evry time one of them gets involved in a gang violence, its the tax payer that ahs to pay for those assholes. everytime they bring a kids, its teh taxpayer who spends money for that kids to go to school.
sharinganclan213 2 years ago
why you bitch your country has a name of foreigners , UNITED STATES OF AMERICA? that tellsyou something or not..
skandskate69 2 years ago
Illegal immigrants have been denied welfare, medicare, and medicaid since 1996. They actually add a surplus to social security because they pay into with fake social security numbers but never collect. So, WTF are you talking about? Read a book fucktard - there is severe labor shortage in agriculture. Illegal immigrants are the only ones picking your food you dumb shit. We need a better guest worker program - not an ignorant redneck like yourself spouting out horse shit.
andrewh23 2 years ago
Hey don't worry it is paid for already. He wouldn't try to swindle us. Why don't you just trust him. Can't we just pass this bit of Socialism and be happy about it? Eh no.
lenny380 2 years ago
Go collect your social security check you hypocritical piece of shit. I hope to God you lose your job and health insurance and then get cancer before the new legislation becomes active. Go to hell asshole.
andrewh23 2 years ago
If someones on Social Security they qualify for Medicare and possibly Medicaid. I think you meant to say go collect your welfare check. But if they were on welfare they would qualify for Medicaid.
Or if they choose they can always go to a county hospital to get seen.
And just to make sure you're not a complete idiot, Obama care doesn't prevent cancer. Or is this some new Messiahcare Insurance.
makeinstall 2 years ago
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sydsays1 2 years ago
I am actually a member of the Imuminati -reptilian mind control project and I have been sent to youtube by Ron Paul to remake the Federal reserve and post comments in favor of Medicare and Medicaid so that we can eventually take over your physical care.
I'm kidding No, I am not an greedy doctor.
makeinstall 2 years ago
@makeinstall You can't control your own mind you retard.
sydsays1 2 years ago
Ouch that hurts. Hey you must be upset that you bought a house, and a car with Obama bucks and then due to the economy going south, lost your job too- unlike you, I am truly sorry man(or woman).
lenny380 2 years ago
I find it disgusting that these democrats find it allowable to tax for 3 years before this goes in effect. The only reason why they are doing it that way is to make it look paid for in the cbo. If you have to generate 3years of taxes to make it feasible, I call it a failure and a robbery. Not to mention that they probably wont be setting any of the revenue from it aside like they were SUPPOSED to do for social security!
Zoklor 2 years ago
I call $3 trillion spent for an unprovoked and pointless war in Iraq robbery. Paying for Americans to get affordable healthcare so they don't die needlessly is common sense. Fucking neocons.
andrewh23 2 years ago 2
3 trillion? Try under 1 trillion.
God why do people like you make shit up to get you're useless point across.
The total cost is now "($934258995005) " Thats 33 trillion less than Obama has put is into debt in the last 9 Months. Get a fucking clue and find out exactly how much the war costs before spewing your BS.
makeinstall 2 years ago
The vote went well tonight so they will now open the debate.
As the speakers come forward see if you can pick out the ones who're HEALTH INSURANCE COMPANY WHORES so we can drive them from office in their next election!!!
DillonX 2 years ago
Harry Reid has no clue along with all the Democrats what they are doing to this nation. Idiots thieves and they work to deceive all Americans to fuck us all over all for their own gain.
TheNewVideo 2 years ago
Why don't you enlighten us? What did that uneducated, alcoholic Mormon Glenn Beck tell you to be afraid of this week? Why don't you take Beck's balls out of your mouth and think for yourself for a change? I'm sorry that the money can't be spent to killing people in Iran like you'd prefer. I'll send an apology card to Dick Cheney. You'd rather Americans go bankrupt paying for chemotherapy. We'd have healthcare reform already if it were in the best interests of Israel's security.
andrewh23 2 years ago
Anyone knows, raising taxes and spending will lead to inflation causing price's of everything to go up. You are living in a Mr' Spock world of intelligence and that is dangerous.
TheNewVideo 2 years ago
Reid is right...there really is no debt. Everything is paid for but the elitists who own this country and just like the banks and bizes that took bailout are controlled now, so will your body be--whcih is what theyre after. Sure here is a pill, now give us your soul.
tecnohunk 2 years ago
What a dumba**. Why do you think Reid is having to pitch health care reform if there is really no debt?
grovercessor 2 years ago
what a bunch of bull$hit, you dont want to debate this bill. hell why dont you let the american people read it ? If its such a good deal then you all need to give up your tax payer funded gold club medical care you have now and get in line with the rest of us. I got the tar who has the feathers . time to ride them out on a rail.
Mojack420 2 years ago
Harry Reid and all these socialists should rot in hell for what they are about to do to this country. The plan is nothing will start to be implemented until 2013. Why you ask? Because they want Obama to be re-elected in 2012. This in of itself should demonstrate what they even know how devasting it will affect the country in a negative way. They want to secure his re-election before they shove this monster down our throats! God help us all!
aSingleDallasGuy 2 years ago
"God help us all! Healthcare reform" You didn't give a flying fuck when Bush was tapping American phones without warrants, leaking CIA agents' names, murdering Habeus Corpus, and ignoring August 2001 intelligence memos. But fuck all that - Healthcare reform! It's the end of the world! Neocon moron.
andrewh23 2 years ago
Wow patriot act compared to the pelosi/reid/obama healthcare.
Thats brilliant.
One designed to protect the country and the other to subsidize insurance companies and limit healthcare coverage. Who's the fucking moron?
If you liberals only had half a brain, I bet you still think healthcare is free. Heres a clue youll pay ~$250 a month for crappie insurance and youll be forced to pay comrade.
Oh read up on the lone wolf provision maybe our soldiers in Fort hood would be alive today.
makeinstall 2 years ago
andrew23.... haha don't jump out a window. We wouldn't want you to off yourself! But if you do jump, you are better off to do it before this bill passes as your treatment in the hospital will be vastly different. You will quicky get treated and have access to the best doctors and latest technologies if you jump sooner than later. If you jump after the bill passesyou will be waiting for inferior treatment and underpaid and over worked doctors. So, good luck and choose wisely my friend.
aSingleDallasGuy 2 years ago
Im about tired of the visual aids from both sides.
clnmike 2 years ago
$2.5trillion paid for through taxes.
So every 10 years we have to go without benefits for 4-5 years to pay for the coverage; Yeah, we're covered for 5 out of 10 years.
ILIADsOdyssey 2 years ago
$3 trillion for Iraq war. So every year we have to start a new war to justify massive "defense" expenditures. Get your fucking priorities strait.
andrewh23 2 years ago
3 trillion? You are so full of shit. Both wars Iraq and Afghanistan cost under 1 trillion. Go to the liberal site costofwar(dot)com and get an education.
The reason for the deaths in Iraq was because we fought this war on the cheap due to these very assholes like reied and pelosi defunding the troops.
So, don't make it seem like this healthcare bill is cheap compares to the war. IT simply makes you look ignorant.
makeinstall 2 years ago
RepubliSCUMS! Guess what?
You're all SCREWED NOW!!!!
HAAAAAA!!!!!
Government Health Care for all you scumbags!!!!
HAAAAA!!!!
Death Panels for just Republicans are next!!!!!!! HAAAAA!!!
Your a bunch of LOSERS!!!!!
Old RepubliSCUMS gettin the death panels!!!!!! LOL.
1911arthur 2 years ago
It's never been about helping America to people like you. It's about paying back the Republicans for 8 years of Bush.
DrunkenPublicness 2 years ago