Alien Jon Poi: nano-Tech Blog 6: Antispin Weave Fountain

[FabiusPyromanus]

Alien Jon you are a god blessed nerd..

[ravekiddie]

hmm another good looking move to try to add to my repertoire

[WeAwesome1]

wow dude you always seem to astonish me with your skills :) i was wondering if those pendulum poi are 80 mm or 72 mm so i can get an idea of what size i should get? write me back as soon as possible. thanks :)

[AlienJon]

@WeAwesome1 THe Pendulum poi where Yuta's. I don't know the size off the top of my head. You could contact Yuta though to ask him!

[mortsy]

Do you have any clue as to what camera Yuta shot this on?

[AlienJon]

@mortsy Yes, I do know what camera it was... mine! >_^

It's a Sanyo Xacti VPC-FH1, W/ wide angle lens.

[dane8802]

I'm sorry if you've already answered but who sings that song? And thank you for the slomo-trip vision edit, i could've spent months watching this in real time trying to figure it out.

[AlienJon]

@dane8802 the song is Blue Sky by Wookiefoot. Hadn't seen them for years, but met JoJo in Bali, of al places. JoJo gave me their new album: Be fearless and Play, and it has been really inspirational!

[jspace111]

@dane8802 Wookie Foot

[PoiMc]

Also, is this doable with full length poi (hand to shoulder, inside of arm)? Or are the buzzsaw passes impossible like that?

[AlienJon]

@PoiMc It is doable with full-length poi but its more of a stretch.

The path the hands follow is kinda like an iso'd 2 petal inspin... but more like your hands are just following the head path of a 2-petal antispin. I wouldn't say it is like cateyes, much more like a 4-petal (3bt) AS weave, which is the base. my poi are spinning faster than the movement of the hands. With a cateye flower type thing, the poi would antispin at the same rate the hands are making their inspin petals.

[PoiMc]

So for this the hands basically follow the same (or at least similar) path as they would for an inspin isolated flower? But with the poi travelling antispin, rather than inspin (nor buzzsaw, for that matter), which would make this kind of like a cat-eye fountain, right? Cat-eyes basically being the antispin version of an isolation...

You were also saying about struggling with tracing antispin paths with your hand, maybe the antispin isolated buzzsaw flowers would be a good place to start?

[AlienJon]

@PoiMc I have an easy enough time with antispin hand path in buzzsaw fountains, including hands split-opp. Or locking my hand onto the head that is anti-spinning.

The difficulty in the other varient of AS weave fountain is that it is

a more complex hand path, with precise crossovers wile missing your other hand and poi. I can do it, it just isn't totally even yet.

[PoiMc]

@AlienJon @AlienJon Fair enough, get it up when it is nice and even bud, I'd like to see what that looks like, in the meantime I'll play with this (if I get around to it...).

[derekjf85]

Hey Jon! I had a fun idea for you.....perhaps you have already done this...but i have never seen it.....but a opposites meltdown...in reverse....extension vs antispin....get back at me if you want me details about what i'm talking about.

[AlienJon]

@derekjf85 opposites meltdown...in reverse....extension vs antispin...

Are you saying a meltdown with arms opposite but poi same, or arms same, but poi opposite?

[derekjf85]

@AlienJon poi opposites.....so your arms would move like a meltdown we all know, but the poi in opposites. So the arms that is going from the front of your body to the back would do an extension....and the one coming from the back to front would do an antispin. and then switch. I can make a video trying to explain.....if you'w like.

[derekjf85]

@AlienJon sorry if i'm sending this to you twice i dont think the last message got sent. arms same...poi opposites. I vision it happenin like this...arm that is in front coming around to the back of your body would do an extension. The arm coming from the back around to the front would antispin. And of course each poi would switch its driving style as you continue the move. I could make a video tryin to explain this if you'd like.

[ruvidan]

Heheh, I'm trying to transfer some of your wild moves over to nunchaku.

[Shaogdynia]

nice slow motion!

[globalj420]

@AlienJon Hard for me to understand what ur talking about. Im very bad at understand poi spinning through text. But is some of the stuff in the second half of this vid what ur talking about - Drex's Tech Poi Blog #84: Octagonal patterns. Makes it so ur hand is traveling antispin while the poi is traveling a weird inspin antispin kinda pattern. Its still odd and hard for me to do some of the patterns and transitions but if that is it i have been messing around with them for a few months now :D

[derPoiBenne]

Maybe another idea goes into the same direction like this.

You can play a normal buzzsaw in antispin, so you have got a little flower in front of you like this here

You may can connect this with a buzzsaw-fountain

This way you got some more possibilities to connect this patterns

Inspin-Fountain vs. Antispin-buzz-Flower

Antispin-Fountain vs. Antispin-buzz-Flower

Inspin-Fountain vs Inspin-buzz-Flower

Antispin-Fountain vs Inspin-buzz-Flower

A bit strange

[AlienJon]

@derPoiBenne Yup you are hitting on the basis for compound flowers using mini buzzsaw flowers as the 1st 2 centers of rotation. Compound Flowers use 3 centers of rotation.

The added mind fuck for landing the variants of the pattern in the video is that it isn't just an antispin buzzsaw that I use as a base, but an aintspin weave.

So you also have to accurately land a series of cross-points as you weave, in between the small space between your other arm and other poi! =)

[firepoispinner]

awesome!

[xfireman420x]

oh my!!!! you have just blown my miind

[yuta]

Nice one! I'll make this tutorial with you talking soon!

[NathanielEverist]

@yuta What camera did you use to film this? The Casio Ex-F1?

[yuta]

@NathanielEverist　It's not my camera, Jon's Xacty.

[globalj420]

Nice one man... Tis an old move for me but still and awesome one... Especially in slomo :D

[AlienJon]

@globalj420 Have you played a bit with going the other direction as well (ie antispin weave locally, hands are traveling the big circle in antispin, therefor poi travels the big circle inspin )?

I recently revisited these. I've been having a harder time finding a nice feeling/looking antispin geometry path for my hands to trace. So I held of on filming the other variant until I've refined it more.

[poiislifelifeispoi]

this is cool..just 3 days ago i learned the anitspin weave took me foreever

[jitpunkia]

slow motion fo me! so sikkkkk

[acidwear]

hypnotic moves are these =)

Jon and Yuta - thanks!

can you do the Antispin Milky Way? =D

[AlienJon]

@acidwear Er, what is a milky way?

[acidwear]

@AlienJon

our galaxy spins its "arms" inspin

your nano-Tech blog is so amazing to me, so I expect next episode to be "how to make the milky way go antispin"!

sending you a big, shiny smile =)

[VegaEtereo]

As usual, thanks for sharing. :D

[NathanielEverist]

slow motion is awesome

[ongele55]

slowmo ftw!