Don't you EVER, EVER belive that you will get us, 99 %, to embrace you after your HUGE TREASON, SELLING OUT YOURSELF TO THE CRIMINAL SCUMBAG BANKSTERS AND ELITE SCUMBAGS 'PAYING YOUR BILL' FOR A NICE LIFE IN LUXURY!
Are the fiat-money-fundings from these SCUMBAGS now drying up, you TRAITOR named Mr. Cevitch..or whatever!..You are a true disgrace for humanity and you have A LOT OF WORK TO DO AS A TRUE TRAITOR AGAINST HUMANITY to 'repair' your reputation!
London police are incredibly easygoing and appear to be friendly with demonstrators. Wish I can say the same about my hometown NYPD. Patience is a foreign word for the NYPD.
Do u really believe Assange isn't part of the bullshit and tht these protests haven't been infiltrated and are being taken in the direction the cabal wants them to go?
LOL it amazes me the child like abuse Charlie and his followers get on here and you can always tell the haters have there profile blocked to view. Could this be because they like playing hide and seek or maybe they are ashamed of there actions, who knows? You know who you are but remember we forgive you always.
OL has been asked to leave St Pauls ...by St Pauls ... there will be the inevitable standoff ..the removal by force ...which will help the ' protesters ' save face ..as they wouldve left anyway as the cold starts to bite ...
Can you next time ask Assange why he released the Gitmo files that, according to the msm, jeopardised the attempts to capture bin laden? Even though a few days later they got him? Lol
IF U WATCH CHARLIES VIDEOS AND U ARE SUBSCRIBED TO HIM YOU ARE A FAN, U JUST HATE TO ADMIT IT BUT YOU ARE ONE, I LOOK AT CHARLIE FROM A NEUTRAL GROUND UNLIKE MOST OF U HERE WHO ALREADY HAS AN OPINION ABOUT SOME ASPECT OF WAT HE SAYS. I DONT AGREE WIT EVERY THING HE DOES OR SAY BUT MOST OF IT A TRUE. NOT EVERY ONE IS RIGHT BUT I UNDERSTAND WERE U COMING FROM WITH WAT YOU SAY AND DO MAY BE IS YOU WERE NEUTRAL WIT YOUR VIEWS AND OPINION OF CHRLIES YOU WILL UNDERSTAND HIM BETTER
occupy your home , but that would be one commitment no one is willing to make. Thats how they run the show since babylon at least - setup systems that slowly build up pressure which eventually vent through "revolutions" and another round begins. As long as you think you are in control of your life through middleman it will go on and on...
@tonythatjesusloves Ok if u say so.... u're talkin like u know me, it give me chuckles.. but don't worry, i wont let my ego answer to this kind of comment, i'll just say that maybe activism and truth are for you no more that a way to spread ure hatred and poison..
Todays political ' protests ' celebrate their lack of coherence their vacuity ...their total lack of thought and direction ...its actually the end of protest that we are witnessing ..but the people taking part seem to be too dumb to realise it ...
@holographicsentience ; Its basically a small festival ...but held on the steps of St Pauls ...with the summary tents and performance art .... when the cold hits most will be gone ... without even having left behind a set of coherent demands / ideas ..beyond " Wow , golly that was fun ..must do it again sometime soon " ....Its protest as party ... without politics / ideology .... its protest with the meaning hollowed out ...leaving behind an empty space where the politics used to be
cops are selected because of their shallow minds and their low IQ.. they really cant help it.. its sad really.. like our hippie friend Jesus once said : "Father, forgive them, for they do not know what they are doing."
Not being quite up to date on 'internet speak' I take it 'charlie's sock' means I'm a sock puppet account owned by Charlie ? If so - this is unusually poor reasoning as I have been consistently critical of Charlie, I consider him an arrogant demagogic self-promoter who lacks even basic intellectual honesty.
Quite how you have made the leap from this to me being Charlie is puzzling.
at 5:25 The other people there with there "brothers and sisters" should of been ripping that fucking policeman off the protester until they find out what the problem is, STANDING BY AND LETTING SHIT HAPPEN IS WHAT MOST OF US DO EVERY SINGLE DAY !!!!!!
at 5:25 The other people there with there "brothers and sisters" should of been ripping that fucking policeman off the protester until they find out what the problem is, STANDING BY AND LETTING SHIT HAPPEN IS WHAT MOST OF US DO EVERY SINGLE DAY !!!!!!
at 5:40 The other people there with there "brothers and sisters" should of been ripping that fucking policeman off the protester until they find out what the problem is, STANDING BY AND LETTING SHIT HAPPEN IS WHAT MOST OF US DO EVERY SINGLE DAY !!!!!!
The police in this video are exactly the same as the protesters - we are literally fighting ourselves in refusal to stand up in self-responsibility. We've gotta stop placing blame on the system and realize that we ARE the system - we created it - we're responsible for changing it. This will only happen, when we face ourselves in self-responsibility. Stop getting kicks out of being against the system and stand up and occupy the space you Breathe in.
@ 7:50, there is a bastard who is an Iranian Governemntal TV reporter! He is supposed to be a Spy either. Iranian Regime reporters are mostly spies and secret agents of the regime!
@AwesomeChannelTV The disobedient and the obedient are both slaves of the system since they exist in polarity and are caged by the same polarity within the system. Real Freedom is seeing and acting beyond polarity and not to fear the system to come and enslave us, but instead to use the system in the best interest of all.
@SylviaSimoneGerssen Real Freedom is seeing and acting beyond polarity and not to fear the system to come and enslave us,Henry David Thoreau's quote and your quote have only one difference your stating that all people must conform and that freedom is keeping your head in the clouds, whereas Henry David Thoreau is stating that the only way to gain freedom is to disobey the system and that people that stay in they're comfort zones while knowing the most whats going on are slaves.
@cameronvcope True independance is disobedience.what our system has is control and to resist that control is to disobey it.
"We must actually direct the system, stop blame, and create a new system that supports all Equally".
But how can we direct or create a new system if the old system is in full control and is stopping us from creating a new one. We need to disobey and attack it so that we can direct or create it.
in order to make a chage you need to be disobedient
What does it mean to resist the system then? Because if you were to truly resist you would stop using money and all of the things which require money.
We are the system - the moment we realize that we also have the opportunity to direct the system.
If you define independence as disobedience - then aren't you binding yourself to the existence of the system as it is? How can you have independence then unless the system continues? Can't you see the flaws in this?
@AwesomeChannelTV @AwesomeChannelTV attempts to create independence through acts of disobedience further supports that which one is resisting because walking as it one has become it in the 'fight' against it. We get what we are existing as which self can see the moment one stop the resistance and consider directing self according to what's best for all.
@AwesomeChannelTV We are only 'controlled by' or 'enslaved' by the system - if we allow it. We have allowed it, thus the reason we are 'enslaved'. Yet - we are able to change it, and direct it, as we direct ourselves, one and equal. To be in the System - not of the System is how we direct it to an outcome that is Best for all.
@AwesomeChannelTV : we can by getting people together world wide that work on a replacement system, and then get enough manpower behind the idea, to be able to stand strong as the majority, where the minority cant stop it anymore.
I think its tad optimistic that some people start thinking about revolution ..when the OWS cant even agree on what demands to make or even whether they should make demands in the first place ....Decisive it aint ...
"I think its tad optimistic that some people start thinking about revolution . . "
People love to band around the term 'revolution', I think Charlie himself has wheeled it out a few times this year alone, TUC march, student fees protests, etc etc, even his own 'End of Fear' farce . . each one is going to be the revolution that would see the collapse of society - each time the result was a 12 minute shaky handheld music video featuring numerous close ups of Charlie's head.
"when the OWS cant even agree on what demands to make . . . "
The demands are pretty stupid (the ones I have seen so far) - to say nothing of the absolute lack of democracy (something you've pointed out).
Let's imagine the government cave in to a demand and dismantle the nuclear power industry - our nation's energy policy would have been decided by an elite group of 500 or so - with zero expertise in energy production, distribution and consumption. Democracy it ain't.
@smallblueclouds ; Essentially this is the form todays political activism takes ...Bypass the masses ...bypass democracy ...bypass political struggle ... Just pull publicity stunts and issue a set of demands ...like a child in a crowded supermarket , shouting for sweets ....
"Bypass the masses ...bypass democracy ...bypass political struggle"
That was always my thought about Charlie's vapid 'End of Fear' farce - he felt his personal rage at an unfair system gave his (imaged) seizing of power legitimacy - it's elitism beyond anything possible in even the most failed democracy.
@smallblueclouds ; Whats instructive is the people at these events ..are the sons and daughters of the middle class ... there are few if any working class people present . Youd think that it would be the reverse given that unemployment ..cuts to public services will always hit the poorest the most . Its the sense of entitlement which shines through with toffs like veitch ...like he has to be listened to ..simply because he opens his mouth .
"there are few if any working class people present ."
There must be a few working class people there, but I take your point, the main drive seems to be from people like Charlie who neither work nor pay tax - and make the claim that they represent 'the 99%' who do both - but the truth is people Charlie hold the 99% in contempt, they seem them as brainwashed drones, living on a diet of X-factor and MacDonald's, polluting the planet by being alive and having children.
"The Problem" is simple - a Money system of Inequality. The Solution? Equal Money. It's a simple point we can all address, and work together to bring about as Real Action that Produce Real Results. Our complaining and blaming and yelling does nothing but make noise. Time to Stand Up to BE the Change we want to See. One Man One Vote. We will bring about Equality. equalmoney(dot)org
> "why would you want to profit in a system where you have enough?"
The idea that the state can provide all societal needs has been repeatedly shown to be problematic (if not outright disastrous), there is a valid argument to be had about the public / private sector balance (and even to some extent: a wholly private system (anarchism)) - but there are no serious arguments supporting the idea of an entirely statist approach like this.
are you able to expand yourself beyond the definitions you have been taught and consider how we can create a world that is Best for Everyone?
Isn't our entire system based on an agreement by each participating to simply accept what they have been taught? Can't we form a new agreement about how money is distributed and what it's value is? Are we going to allow ourselves to be slaves to the definitions of things that do not support us?
isn't the evolutionary process just another form of competition for survival?
why would we need to rely on such a system if we take self-responsibility for ensuring the survival of all those who are born into this world - thus eliminating the need to compete?
Are we really alive or just competitive, repetitive systems?
> "evolutionary process just another form of competition for survival?"
Strictly speaking that would be speciation through natural selection (rather than evolution) - but yes, generally speaking it's competition for survival.
> "why would we need to rely on such a system"
It's not a choice, it is part of who we are as much as the sexual drive, pain sensation, fear and the dopamine response to food, you can't choose which of these you want and which you would rather not have.
> "so you believe that we are merely survival systems with [no] capacity for change?"
Misrepresenting someone's position to promote your own is not a particularly useful thing to do, I avoid this tactic by fastidiously quoting the comment I am responding to. So if you can quote (cut and paste) the actual text where I say "we are merely survival systems with no capacity for change" I will be happy to answer the question, but as far as I am aware I have said nothing of the sort.
One thing we know is that the current system is unsustainable and it is based on the belief that for some to have others must not have - that money can only be created through debt
wouldn't you agree that if each had enough money to exist that it would eliminate the fear of survival, thus the 'drive for self-interest' would be placed into check - the drive is only there because the needs are not being met
> "One thing we know is that the current system is unsustainable"
Well, it's certainly got it's fair share of problems.
> "wouldn't you agree that if each had enough money to exist that it would eliminate the fear of survival, thus the 'drive for self-interest' would be placed into check"
I doubt it, like I said: self-interest is 'hard wired' into us as much as hunger, a desire for sexual activity, fear and laughing. Self-interest is much broader than paying the bills on time.
@smallblueclouds You would receive an Equal amount of Money as everyone else, to support you within your basic Needs of this World. What you do with the rest would be up to you. The point is to ensure ALL are supported Equally to support themselves. The question would then be to ask, would we need to 'save' money for our children, if our children are being honored with the same amount of Money as ourselves and everyone. In an Equal Money system, when are survival is taken cared for, we would
@KristinaSalas then be in a position to express ourselves as we would like, working within the area we would like, not because we 'have to', but because we are free to. So, then it's up to the individual to decide what the individual will do with their time. Yet, let's consider how a radical change will occur within an Equal Money System, will we desire profit? Or will we desire to do what is Best for All. The impossible seems to open within an Equal Money System. check out the site, join us
> " . . we would // be in a position to express ourselves as we would like // because we are free to"
Except those areas the state does not permit ? For instance: the profit motive unarguably promotes innovation, but this would simply not be allowed under this kind of statism ?
> "Or will we desire to do what is Best for All"
Although reciprocal altruism is the broad foundation underpinning all cohesive societies, self-interest is the engine that drives it forward.
"The impossible seems to open within an Equal Money System. check out the site, join us"
The impossible is impossible. An 'Equal Money System' is a naïve fantasy that will progress exactly nowhere as it fails to take into consideration basic human motivations and drives.
I joined, I asked some questions and made a couple of comments - but as stated on the website itself . . . "we won't tolerate free speech" (Viktor » Thu Aug 11, 2011) . . . so none of my comments have been 'approved' by the committee. Nor is this censorship transparent, no reason is given as to why opinions are censored - nor is there a guide indicating which ideas are allowed to be expressed and which are not.
> "You would receive an Equal amount of Money as everyone else, to support you within your basic Needs of this World. What you do with the rest would be up to you."
So you could save money if you wanted, accumulate wealth (for instance - in case there was a famine) ?
> "The question would then be to ask, would we need to 'save' money for our children"
Money (as a store of wealth) would benefit your child in case of a societal breakdown (or other crisis).
@smallblueclouds You're statement reeks of fear - which is the starting point and foundation of the current economic system. fear your survival because it is not ensured. We have MORE then enough resources, that includes food, to support everyone equally. Money would not be the value, Life would be the Value. so to think that money would ensure your survival over another in an equal money system is just exposing the current manifestation of this world. self interest.
Yes, I am terrified of some Youtube posts and a blog, it's really got me scared, I am besides myself with fear.
> "the current manifestation of this world. self interest"
Agreed, 200,000 years of evolution dictates innate self-interest - marry this with the demonstrable fact that statism produces the lowest standard of living and zero progress and you might begin to see why the EMS will fail.
Consider that all the information that is out there has been used deliberately to brainwash you into a state of fear and inaction - to never actually change the system in a real way.
The belief that humans cannot move beyond self-interest is a belief system that has been programmed through media, books, and the education system - it is only a belief.
@smallblueclouds Consider that a 'societal breakdown' can only exists when it's starting point was broke from the beginning. Which is the current system, it cannot last because it is not designed to. And equal money system is designed to support and sustain Life, as the value of Life is Life. This kind of 'equal system' cannot breakdown, as it ensures all are taken cared for, so that all can do what is best for ALL. Imagine a world where everyOne cares for everyone as their self..
"Consider that a 'societal breakdown' can only exists when it's starting point was broke from the beginning"
Not at all, there could be any number of issues, from religious tensions to a viral pandemic, they've happened in the past with disastrous and destabilising consequences - and the future is not immune to human nature or natural catastrophe.
part 1- $ not being the driving force to survive any longer b/c it's not relevant to live as this will be taken care of w/in the system of support that equal money will provide. The money will be available to give all a lifestyle that is enjoyable as the principles of the system is seeing all life as self, war will end, profit driven business will end, and cash flow will open up to be given to those that desire to have it more then the basic needs require. If you want more $ u can work for it.
Numerous ideologies have claimed to be 'unsinkable', impossible for them to breakdown, and one by one they go down like the Titanic - but I can't see the EMS even getting out of the harbour, or if it does there will be no one on board.
If a 16 year old dick head who likes to throw bricks at passing trains is paid the same as a neurosurgeon resentment will soon set in the first time the orange crop fails.
@smallblueclouds -the whole system that is in place has to go completely, it's not impossible to see a system that is fair and equal for all, it is the human as the director of this system to see it thru, either one is for equality or one is for self interest desires seeing within a narrow window of some will get equal money where they don't deserve it cause they are lazy, stupid, or whatever the excuse is, is irrelevant b/c all will have a new outlook on life as it's not in ?, it's guaranteed.
"seeing within a narrow window of: "some will get equal money where they don't deserve it [be]cause they are lazy, stupid, or whatever the excuse is" - is irrelevant b/c all will have a new outlook"
I can't see the distinction being irrelevant when someone who has worked for 30 years with disabled children has the same access to resources as someone who refuses to work, but does break in and vandalise the disabled children's day care centre.
part 2- There is always solutions to the issues that arise, it's time for humans to stand up and take responsibility for what has been created here, and create a system that supports everyone. Equal money system is a system that is defined and anchored by it's principles of oneness as life and equal as all here. What is best for all is not able to be debated within the truth of self, so it's common sense living that we are after and getting things done to stop the abuse of this current system.
@small- part 1-This is an extreme case, & is irrelevant based on the fact that their might be unknown reasons to why someone would vandalize the disable child's school, not that that is justifiable, but 1 can't judge the actions of another. W/in this new system being proposed, there will b a re-education of the human within principles of self respect and self honesty, teaching from the get go how to practically solve issues that come up instead resorting to vandalizing a school or causing abuse.
It's relevant as it's illustrative of a divide in contribution to society.
> "but 1 can't judge the actions of another"
Sure you can, I just did, I judge the vandalism of a disabled children's day care centre as being less of a contribution to society than that made by those who work with the children. Racists have a lower standing in my opinion than comedians, look at how easy I find it to judge the actions of others! It's easy.
"W/in this new system being proposed, there will b a re-education of the human . . . "
As much as you might like to image you have found a solution to all of human ills, believe me you are only rehashing a kind of naïve reductionist communism.
What happens if someone doesn't want to be "re-educated" (Pol Pot comes to mind !). Would they be free to chose how they wish to live their life - or would they be forcibly "re-educated" ?
@smallblue - all problems solved with the equality equation 1+1 = 2 using common sense and what is best for all involved, one have to be self honest and not in ego to see this thru. There are major problems in this current system, which only benefits the few, Life is for all and should be supported likewise, doing to others as you would want 4 urself is a cool point to formulate any solution that you could come too....do you have it in you to give to all as you would want, if so, support EMS.
Am I right in thinking that if I have a bad day at work (let's imagine I like to go out most nights - hit a few clubs - get pretty drunk and generally have a great time with my friends) . . and my boss has a go at me for always being late, I can simply walk out, go home put my feet up and then spend the next year sitting in the park drinking tea and reading magazines ? And my income will not be effected ?
part 2-The point of this system is that no more abuse will be allowed like starving children, and life will be based on the best outcome for every being that is alive. Push yourself out of your brainwashing and see if you could give to another as you would want for yourself, it's a question of do humans have the will to see this system come to be, equal money system is the will to do just that by humans that care for the well being of all.
Drop your sanctimonious attitude and you might find people more willing to listen to your ideas. Learn to discuss an idea while leaving the personality of the person you are talking to out of the conversation.
> "it's a question of do humans have the will to see this system come to be"
Very very unlikely, it falls foul of numerous innate human traits and would be impossible to implement as well as being statist in the extreme.
Had a bad day at the hospital were you clean the toilets and mop the corridors, your boss was being a bit of a bastard ? . . . simple . . . just walk out, whether you work or not has no bearing on your income . . were the kids at the school where you teach finally getting to you with their typical teenage high spirits and rowdiness, simple, just walk out, go home and spend the rest of the year sitting in the park reading a nice novel with a flask of tea.
OK, I have taken the time to look into the Equal Money System - amongst the features we see forced labour, 're-education' and a distinct lack of freedoms, it's not only a naïve and reductionist reworking of communism - it's the very worst of communism, total state power, no free trade, no freedom of expression, and certainly no civil liberties, to quote the shaved headed fanatics behind the idea: "we won't tolerate free speech".
You mean apart from where he releases countless classified documents detailing operations that his colleagues are involved in and the names of their informants on the ground?
I would say that was giving information to the enemy.
GUYS! IS LIFE BETTER IN WEST GERMANY?!!!?
manmanjumbo 2 weeks ago
You have A LOT to do Mr. Cevitch!
Don't you EVER, EVER belive that you will get us, 99 %, to embrace you after your HUGE TREASON, SELLING OUT YOURSELF TO THE CRIMINAL SCUMBAG BANKSTERS AND ELITE SCUMBAGS 'PAYING YOUR BILL' FOR A NICE LIFE IN LUXURY!
Are the fiat-money-fundings from these SCUMBAGS now drying up, you TRAITOR named Mr. Cevitch..or whatever!..You are a true disgrace for humanity and you have A LOT OF WORK TO DO AS A TRUE TRAITOR AGAINST HUMANITY to 'repair' your reputation!
x2436ab 2 months ago
HEY PEOPLE,FOR FUCKS SAKE,SURELY SOMEONE KNOWS THE NAME OF THE SONG?!?!?!?!!?
sonikue23 3 months ago
These are actors on a stage ,YES paid to do this !
We are being played on both sides of the coin !
Wake up people !
jazzey69 4 months ago
London police are incredibly easygoing and appear to be friendly with demonstrators. Wish I can say the same about my hometown NYPD. Patience is a foreign word for the NYPD.
JavierSisto 4 months ago
pls watch the arrivals
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786shadowz 4 months ago
Do u really believe Assange isn't part of the bullshit and tht these protests haven't been infiltrated and are being taken in the direction the cabal wants them to go?
MrBeauMonte 4 months ago
this would have happened in the 60's if high ass hippies had social media sites and email
liamhills 4 months ago
whats the song?
bluephoenix53 4 months ago
@bluephoenix53 nvm its on the side of the description
bluephoenix53 4 months ago
hahahahahaaaa cveitch ´s come back. lolo mat 2001
GonG108 4 months ago
masonic state global
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What's the name of the song ?
TheZakjiS 4 months ago
cops are useless faggots. period.
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arumdevil 4 months ago
AAAAAACCCTIOOOOOON!!!!!! CCCUUUUUUUUTTTTTT!!!!!!!
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Change will be hard but worth it. The time is coming to stand.
SylviesBoudoir 4 months ago
@SylviesBoudoir Change to what? Do we have a system to put in place after breaking down the current one?
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@TheMrAndr3w Don't be silly, they haven't thought that far ahead yet.
Professsor 4 months ago
what kind of camera was you're mate using? super 8? and when can we expect the footage out?
MASSIF101 4 months ago
Very well done Charlie, Good work my good man!
johnnywhack 4 months ago
When you see those dogs its time for the homemade pepper spray.
ginganz13 4 months ago
01:28 epic shot is epic!!!
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SCOREFIVE 4 months ago
@LilJohnnysEverywhere
Bad Little Boy having funny little fantasies about camerawork... like the pixel count really matters (as they promise in the adverts)
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why aren't people coming cops? theres a lot of jobs????
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LOL it amazes me the child like abuse Charlie and his followers get on here and you can always tell the haters have there profile blocked to view. Could this be because they like playing hide and seek or maybe they are ashamed of there actions, who knows? You know who you are but remember we forgive you always.
niknak72 4 months ago
love the music....the rEVOLution will be televised
slipman2888 4 months ago
OL has been asked to leave St Pauls ...by St Pauls ... there will be the inevitable standoff ..the removal by force ...which will help the ' protesters ' save face ..as they wouldve left anyway as the cold starts to bite ...
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Hi guys.Can you let me know what is that first song name please. Thanx
arearekarekarek 4 months ago 4
@arearekarekarek deadmau5 - Raise Your Weapon
aiviiits 4 months ago
@arearekarekarek sorry it's not the original, it's deadmau5 - Raise Your Weapon (Noisia Remix)
aiviiits 4 months ago
@aiviiits thank you
arearekarekarek 4 months ago
@arearekarekarek What`s the song man ?!?!?! :)
sonikue23 4 months ago
@arearekarekarek See beneath video where it says Artist and has a music symbol
cveitch 4 months ago
@cveitch Theres no such thing?!?! o.O
sonikue23 3 months ago
@ 3:58 it's gavin paul the fit photographer! everyone say hello gavin! xD
AnonymousVendetta69 4 months ago
This video brightened my day, thank you!
kreonsa 4 months ago
Now that was fucking funny man. props
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Why you filming on 8mm? Get a 5D/7D
TheTruthline 4 months ago
Way to go OLSX. Sending love from Occupy Vancouver.
star0shadows 4 months ago
Can you next time ask Assange why he released the Gitmo files that, according to the msm, jeopardised the attempts to capture bin laden? Even though a few days later they got him? Lol
bobzimmerfan 4 months ago
dude I saw you on BBC world news in the US
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@LilJohnnysEverywhere I gotta lot of respect for Assange. When we think of the big awakening, he SHOWED the world the actions of the West.
cveitch 4 months ago
occupy + uplifting of brainpower + paradigmshift = evolution today
thanks charly!
<3
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RefugeeInExile 4 months ago
Asian guy with Che Guevara on his shirt :) Awesome
wesleysonic 4 months ago
No civil disobedience + no armed revolution = same things will go on for another 100 years. Holding signs and chanting will get you nothing.
woodlandcammo27 4 months ago
The best way to protest is to stop paying your taxes and any loans you have.
If everyone did this the banks would be on their knees
TheRCGIT 4 months ago
IF U WATCH CHARLIES VIDEOS AND U ARE SUBSCRIBED TO HIM YOU ARE A FAN, U JUST HATE TO ADMIT IT BUT YOU ARE ONE, I LOOK AT CHARLIE FROM A NEUTRAL GROUND UNLIKE MOST OF U HERE WHO ALREADY HAS AN OPINION ABOUT SOME ASPECT OF WAT HE SAYS. I DONT AGREE WIT EVERY THING HE DOES OR SAY BUT MOST OF IT A TRUE. NOT EVERY ONE IS RIGHT BUT I UNDERSTAND WERE U COMING FROM WITH WAT YOU SAY AND DO MAY BE IS YOU WERE NEUTRAL WIT YOUR VIEWS AND OPINION OF CHRLIES YOU WILL UNDERSTAND HIM BETTER
seunayadi 4 months ago
@seunayadi well said i agree.
modelearth 4 months ago
occupy your home , but that would be one commitment no one is willing to make. Thats how they run the show since babylon at least - setup systems that slowly build up pressure which eventually vent through "revolutions" and another round begins. As long as you think you are in control of your life through middleman it will go on and on...
SiebenDoku 4 months ago
@SiebenDoku BINGO!
woodlandcammo27 4 months ago
7:30
Would you like to say something?
THIS IS FUCKED!
N4RVS 4 months ago
watch?v=WxX-41fK-k0 for the 'fox news' 'he'll go down if i hit him'
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@tonythatjesusloves yeah ok.. now he's gay... it's so lame to see how people can't leave this good human being alone... ridiculous..
TheSoyanne 4 months ago
@TheSoyanne only an air head like you would fall for ego,s like chaz and julie , activism and truth are no more than fashion accessories for you ,
tonythatjesusloves 4 months ago 3
@tonythatjesusloves Ok if u say so.... u're talkin like u know me, it give me chuckles.. but don't worry, i wont let my ego answer to this kind of comment, i'll just say that maybe activism and truth are for you no more that a way to spread ure hatred and poison..
Peaace broo or sis..
TheSoyanne 4 months ago
"Guys - is life better in West Germany?" - couldn't put it better myself.
broodwarplayer 4 months ago
christ the UK has become more authoritarian than the USA
PixelDansIronFist 4 months ago
The Occupy Movement = NWO Controlled Opposition...steer away, nothing to see here...!!!
lextorite 4 months ago 2
@lextorite if ur serious that's ridiculous
PixelDansIronFist 4 months ago
Todays political ' protests ' celebrate their lack of coherence their vacuity ...their total lack of thought and direction ...its actually the end of protest that we are witnessing ..but the people taking part seem to be too dumb to realise it ...
holographicsentience 4 months ago
@holographicsentience ; Its basically a small festival ...but held on the steps of St Pauls ...with the summary tents and performance art .... when the cold hits most will be gone ... without even having left behind a set of coherent demands / ideas ..beyond " Wow , golly that was fun ..must do it again sometime soon " ....Its protest as party ... without politics / ideology .... its protest with the meaning hollowed out ...leaving behind an empty space where the politics used to be
holographicsentience 4 months ago
cops are selected because of their shallow minds and their low IQ.. they really cant help it.. its sad really.. like our hippie friend Jesus once said : "Father, forgive them, for they do not know what they are doing."
speedsterDy 4 months ago
@ShillsEverywhere ; Bollocks ..the blokes more anti charlie than anyone ...
holographicsentience 4 months ago
@tonythatjesusloves lol yeeah he sounds like his groupie for real
camronwishart 4 months ago
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@ShillsEverywhere
"smallbluecouds - charlie's sock"
Not being quite up to date on 'internet speak' I take it 'charlie's sock' means I'm a sock puppet account owned by Charlie ? If so - this is unusually poor reasoning as I have been consistently critical of Charlie, I consider him an arrogant demagogic self-promoter who lacks even basic intellectual honesty.
Quite how you have made the leap from this to me being Charlie is puzzling.
smallblueclouds 4 months ago
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smallblueclouds 4 months ago
and from 6:46 onwards, while the policeman is "trying to stop him getting run over" thats bullshit, hes very clearly manhandling him !
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at 5:25 The other people there with there "brothers and sisters" should of been ripping that fucking policeman off the protester until they find out what the problem is, STANDING BY AND LETTING SHIT HAPPEN IS WHAT MOST OF US DO EVERY SINGLE DAY !!!!!!
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at 5:25 The other people there with there "brothers and sisters" should of been ripping that fucking policeman off the protester until they find out what the problem is, STANDING BY AND LETTING SHIT HAPPEN IS WHAT MOST OF US DO EVERY SINGLE DAY !!!!!!
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at 5:40 The other people there with there "brothers and sisters" should of been ripping that fucking policeman off the protester until they find out what the problem is, STANDING BY AND LETTING SHIT HAPPEN IS WHAT MOST OF US DO EVERY SINGLE DAY !!!!!!
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Let it be known charlie vietch cannot lead the movment or it will fail. BEWARE!!
dangerousslave 4 months ago
CHARLIE HAS GOT IT RIGHT!!!! THE OFFICIAL THEME MUSIC OF THE OCCUPY MOVEMENT SHOULD BE DUBSTEP!!!!!!
chaosinus 4 months ago
that is one heck of a nice camera. i guess two kids with a really nice camera can actually do some nice filming :)
OneSz999 4 months ago
I Love it when Charlie says ACTION!
Dtope09 4 months ago
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The police in this video are exactly the same as the protesters - we are literally fighting ourselves in refusal to stand up in self-responsibility. We've gotta stop placing blame on the system and realize that we ARE the system - we created it - we're responsible for changing it. This will only happen, when we face ourselves in self-responsibility. Stop getting kicks out of being against the system and stand up and occupy the space you Breathe in.
annabrixthomsen 4 months ago 9
imho, one should be non-bias when they re behind the camera.
th86stone 4 months ago
@ 7:50, there is a bastard who is an Iranian Governemntal TV reporter! He is supposed to be a Spy either. Iranian Regime reporters are mostly spies and secret agents of the regime!
sherwix 4 months ago
Disobedience is the true foundation of liberty. The obedient must be slaves.
~ Henry David Thoreau
AwesomeChannelTV 4 months ago
@AwesomeChannelTV The disobedient and the obedient are both slaves of the system since they exist in polarity and are caged by the same polarity within the system. Real Freedom is seeing and acting beyond polarity and not to fear the system to come and enslave us, but instead to use the system in the best interest of all.
SylviaSimoneGerssen 4 months ago 8
@SylviaSimoneGerssen Real Freedom is seeing and acting beyond polarity and not to fear the system to come and enslave us,Henry David Thoreau's quote and your quote have only one difference your stating that all people must conform and that freedom is keeping your head in the clouds, whereas Henry David Thoreau is stating that the only way to gain freedom is to disobey the system and that people that stay in they're comfort zones while knowing the most whats going on are slaves.
AwesomeChannelTV 4 months ago
@AwesomeChannelTV
We are the system - we accept and allow it - disobedience is abdication of Self-Responsibility
We must actually direct the system, stop blame, and create a new system that supports all Equally.
cameronvcope 4 months ago 2
@cameronvcope True independance is disobedience.what our system has is control and to resist that control is to disobey it.
"We must actually direct the system, stop blame, and create a new system that supports all Equally".
But how can we direct or create a new system if the old system is in full control and is stopping us from creating a new one. We need to disobey and attack it so that we can direct or create it.
in order to make a chage you need to be disobedient
AwesomeChannelTV 4 months ago
@AwesomeChannelTV
What does it mean to resist the system then? Because if you were to truly resist you would stop using money and all of the things which require money.
We are the system - the moment we realize that we also have the opportunity to direct the system.
If you define independence as disobedience - then aren't you binding yourself to the existence of the system as it is? How can you have independence then unless the system continues? Can't you see the flaws in this?
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clk211bu 4 months ago
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@AwesomeChannelTV @AwesomeChannelTV attempts to create independence through acts of disobedience further supports that which one is resisting because walking as it one has become it in the 'fight' against it. We get what we are existing as which self can see the moment one stop the resistance and consider directing self according to what's best for all.
clk211bu 4 months ago
@AwesomeChannelTV We are only 'controlled by' or 'enslaved' by the system - if we allow it. We have allowed it, thus the reason we are 'enslaved'. Yet - we are able to change it, and direct it, as we direct ourselves, one and equal. To be in the System - not of the System is how we direct it to an outcome that is Best for all.
KristinaSalas 4 months ago
@AwesomeChannelTV : we can by getting people together world wide that work on a replacement system, and then get enough manpower behind the idea, to be able to stand strong as the majority, where the minority cant stop it anymore.
Hiphop4LifeSub4Sub 4 months ago
ROFL that neon sign at the end!! So Orwellian
angryafghan 4 months ago
"Occupy.." is a CON,a setup,no surprise to see you there
OujiDarkmatter 4 months ago
I think its tad optimistic that some people start thinking about revolution ..when the OWS cant even agree on what demands to make or even whether they should make demands in the first place ....Decisive it aint ...
holographicsentience 4 months ago
@holographicsentience
"I think its tad optimistic that some people start thinking about revolution . . "
People love to band around the term 'revolution', I think Charlie himself has wheeled it out a few times this year alone, TUC march, student fees protests, etc etc, even his own 'End of Fear' farce . . each one is going to be the revolution that would see the collapse of society - each time the result was a 12 minute shaky handheld music video featuring numerous close ups of Charlie's head.
smallblueclouds 4 months ago
@holographicsentience
"when the OWS cant even agree on what demands to make . . . "
The demands are pretty stupid (the ones I have seen so far) - to say nothing of the absolute lack of democracy (something you've pointed out).
Let's imagine the government cave in to a demand and dismantle the nuclear power industry - our nation's energy policy would have been decided by an elite group of 500 or so - with zero expertise in energy production, distribution and consumption. Democracy it ain't.
smallblueclouds 4 months ago
@smallblueclouds ; Essentially this is the form todays political activism takes ...Bypass the masses ...bypass democracy ...bypass political struggle ... Just pull publicity stunts and issue a set of demands ...like a child in a crowded supermarket , shouting for sweets ....
holographicsentience 4 months ago
@holographicsentience
"Bypass the masses ...bypass democracy ...bypass political struggle"
That was always my thought about Charlie's vapid 'End of Fear' farce - he felt his personal rage at an unfair system gave his (imaged) seizing of power legitimacy - it's elitism beyond anything possible in even the most failed democracy.
smallblueclouds 4 months ago
@smallblueclouds ; Whats instructive is the people at these events ..are the sons and daughters of the middle class ... there are few if any working class people present . Youd think that it would be the reverse given that unemployment ..cuts to public services will always hit the poorest the most . Its the sense of entitlement which shines through with toffs like veitch ...like he has to be listened to ..simply because he opens his mouth .
holographicsentience 4 months ago
@holographicsentience
"there are few if any working class people present ."
There must be a few working class people there, but I take your point, the main drive seems to be from people like Charlie who neither work nor pay tax - and make the claim that they represent 'the 99%' who do both - but the truth is people Charlie hold the 99% in contempt, they seem them as brainwashed drones, living on a diet of X-factor and MacDonald's, polluting the planet by being alive and having children.
smallblueclouds 4 months ago
that man described the situation perfectly 7:29
peterbaelish3 4 months ago
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Those Ray Ban sunglasses you have look pretty cool, Charlie. How much did you pay for them while shopping? $150?
coastalcoder 4 months ago
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coastalcoder 4 months ago
Julian; apart from his intelligence and great mind, he is really handsome too!
OrionLady777 4 months ago
Fear is our greatest enemy"
tyristorium 4 months ago
Your ignorance is their power"
tyristorium 4 months ago
Nice one but doesn't have enough of the corporate view :-)
corporateprzombie 4 months ago
How very dystopian.
conkt 4 months ago
Thumbs up if you skipped the terrible song
ReunitePeace777 4 months ago
Nice tune...
Cameron and Osborne are Rothschild's bum boys and Teresa May is a fucking whore.
CO2TROL 4 months ago
@DontBeFooled2012
They werent "allegedly" given to wikileaks.
Bradley admits they were given to wikileaks.
The intention in giving such documents to a well known site like wikileaks, is to have them shown to the world.
Bradley therefore intended to show classified US military documents to the world, and that includes the enemies of the US.
Case closed.
Bradley is a traitorous piece of shit.
In the field, his fellow soldiers would have shot him .
FEMADEATHCAMPCONTROL 4 months ago
@FEMADEATHCAMPCONTROL
Manning is a hero. End of story.
CO2TROL 4 months ago
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"The Problem" is simple - a Money system of Inequality. The Solution? Equal Money. It's a simple point we can all address, and work together to bring about as Real Action that Produce Real Results. Our complaining and blaming and yelling does nothing but make noise. Time to Stand Up to BE the Change we want to See. One Man One Vote. We will bring about Equality. equalmoney(dot)org
KristinaSalas 4 months ago 15
@KristinaSalas
In the 'Equal Money System' can you do either of the following:
Would you be allowed to save your money up and pass it on to your children?
Would you be allowed to start a profit making business ?
smallblueclouds 4 months ago
@smallblueclouds
why would you want to profit in a system where you have enough?
imagine how things would change when each person's starting point is not survival because that point is no longer under constant threat.
if each child who is born always has enough money, why would there be a need to pass money on?
cameronvcope 4 months ago 7
@cameronvcope
> "why would you want to profit in a system where you have enough?"
The idea that the state can provide all societal needs has been repeatedly shown to be problematic (if not outright disastrous), there is a valid argument to be had about the public / private sector balance (and even to some extent: a wholly private system (anarchism)) - but there are no serious arguments supporting the idea of an entirely statist approach like this.
Where would money come from in this system?
smallblueclouds 4 months ago
@smallblueclouds
are you able to expand yourself beyond the definitions you have been taught and consider how we can create a world that is Best for Everyone?
Isn't our entire system based on an agreement by each participating to simply accept what they have been taught? Can't we form a new agreement about how money is distributed and what it's value is? Are we going to allow ourselves to be slaves to the definitions of things that do not support us?
cameronvcope 4 months ago 3
@cameronvcope
> "Isn't our entire system based on an agreement by each participating to simply accept what they have been taught?"
No.
> "Can't we form a new agreement about how money is distributed and what it's value is?"
Unlikely, the EMS idea is certainly not a viable plan and will (very very obviously) not happen.
smallblueclouds 4 months ago
@cameronvcope
"if each child who is born always has enough money, why would there be a need to pass money on?"
The need to invest in your genes would come from around 200,000 years of evolutionary process.
Some of the things the 'EMS' seeks to eradicate with it's nightmarish statism are innately human.
I read the part about how this system was not just Communism - and came away with the distinct impression that it was just Communism.
smallblueclouds 4 months ago
@smallblueclouds
isn't the evolutionary process just another form of competition for survival?
why would we need to rely on such a system if we take self-responsibility for ensuring the survival of all those who are born into this world - thus eliminating the need to compete?
Are we really alive or just competitive, repetitive systems?
cameronvcope 4 months ago 2
@cameronvcope
> "evolutionary process just another form of competition for survival?"
Strictly speaking that would be speciation through natural selection (rather than evolution) - but yes, generally speaking it's competition for survival.
> "why would we need to rely on such a system"
It's not a choice, it is part of who we are as much as the sexual drive, pain sensation, fear and the dopamine response to food, you can't choose which of these you want and which you would rather not have.
smallblueclouds 4 months ago
@smallblueclouds
so you believe that we are merely survival systems with not capacity for change?
Isn't that a rather limited view? If we were wise, we would realize that our survival depended
on supporting all Equally thus ending the need for competition - that would be real Evolution, wouldn't' it?
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smallblueclouds 4 months ago
@cameronvcope
> "so you believe that we are merely survival systems with [no] capacity for change?"
Misrepresenting someone's position to promote your own is not a particularly useful thing to do, I avoid this tactic by fastidiously quoting the comment I am responding to. So if you can quote (cut and paste) the actual text where I say "we are merely survival systems with no capacity for change" I will be happy to answer the question, but as far as I am aware I have said nothing of the sort.
smallblueclouds 4 months ago
One thing we know is that the current system is unsustainable and it is based on the belief that for some to have others must not have - that money can only be created through debt
wouldn't you agree that if each had enough money to exist that it would eliminate the fear of survival, thus the 'drive for self-interest' would be placed into check - the drive is only there because the needs are not being met
cameronvcope 4 months ago
@cameronvcope
> "One thing we know is that the current system is unsustainable"
Well, it's certainly got it's fair share of problems.
> "wouldn't you agree that if each had enough money to exist that it would eliminate the fear of survival, thus the 'drive for self-interest' would be placed into check"
I doubt it, like I said: self-interest is 'hard wired' into us as much as hunger, a desire for sexual activity, fear and laughing. Self-interest is much broader than paying the bills on time.
smallblueclouds 4 months ago
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@cameronvcope
"Are we really alive or just competitive, repetitive systems?"
Both.
smallblueclouds 4 months ago
@smallblueclouds You would receive an Equal amount of Money as everyone else, to support you within your basic Needs of this World. What you do with the rest would be up to you. The point is to ensure ALL are supported Equally to support themselves. The question would then be to ask, would we need to 'save' money for our children, if our children are being honored with the same amount of Money as ourselves and everyone. In an Equal Money system, when are survival is taken cared for, we would
KristinaSalas 4 months ago 4
@KristinaSalas then be in a position to express ourselves as we would like, working within the area we would like, not because we 'have to', but because we are free to. So, then it's up to the individual to decide what the individual will do with their time. Yet, let's consider how a radical change will occur within an Equal Money System, will we desire profit? Or will we desire to do what is Best for All. The impossible seems to open within an Equal Money System. check out the site, join us
KristinaSalas 4 months ago 4
@KristinaSalas
> " . . we would // be in a position to express ourselves as we would like // because we are free to"
Except those areas the state does not permit ? For instance: the profit motive unarguably promotes innovation, but this would simply not be allowed under this kind of statism ?
> "Or will we desire to do what is Best for All"
Although reciprocal altruism is the broad foundation underpinning all cohesive societies, self-interest is the engine that drives it forward.
smallblueclouds 4 months ago
@KristinaSalas
"The impossible seems to open within an Equal Money System. check out the site, join us"
The impossible is impossible. An 'Equal Money System' is a naïve fantasy that will progress exactly nowhere as it fails to take into consideration basic human motivations and drives.
smallblueclouds 4 months ago
@smallblueclouds This is simply accepting 'the nature' as unchangeable. This is also abuse.
KristinaSalas 4 months ago 4
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@KristinaSalas
"check out the site, join us"
I joined, I asked some questions and made a couple of comments - but as stated on the website itself . . . "we won't tolerate free speech" (Viktor » Thu Aug 11, 2011) . . . so none of my comments have been 'approved' by the committee. Nor is this censorship transparent, no reason is given as to why opinions are censored - nor is there a guide indicating which ideas are allowed to be expressed and which are not.
Laughable stuff.
smallblueclouds 4 months ago
@KristinaSalas
> "You would receive an Equal amount of Money as everyone else, to support you within your basic Needs of this World. What you do with the rest would be up to you."
So you could save money if you wanted, accumulate wealth (for instance - in case there was a famine) ?
> "The question would then be to ask, would we need to 'save' money for our children"
Money (as a store of wealth) would benefit your child in case of a societal breakdown (or other crisis).
smallblueclouds 4 months ago
@smallblueclouds You're statement reeks of fear - which is the starting point and foundation of the current economic system. fear your survival because it is not ensured. We have MORE then enough resources, that includes food, to support everyone equally. Money would not be the value, Life would be the Value. so to think that money would ensure your survival over another in an equal money system is just exposing the current manifestation of this world. self interest.
KristinaSalas 4 months ago 2
@KristinaSalas
> "[Your] statement reeks of fear"
Yes, I am terrified of some Youtube posts and a blog, it's really got me scared, I am besides myself with fear.
> "the current manifestation of this world. self interest"
Agreed, 200,000 years of evolution dictates innate self-interest - marry this with the demonstrable fact that statism produces the lowest standard of living and zero progress and you might begin to see why the EMS will fail.
smallblueclouds 4 months ago
@smallblueclouds
I suggest to slow down and breathe firstly.
Consider that all the information that is out there has been used deliberately to brainwash you into a state of fear and inaction - to never actually change the system in a real way.
The belief that humans cannot move beyond self-interest is a belief system that has been programmed through media, books, and the education system - it is only a belief.
cameronvcope 4 months ago
@smallblueclouds Consider that a 'societal breakdown' can only exists when it's starting point was broke from the beginning. Which is the current system, it cannot last because it is not designed to. And equal money system is designed to support and sustain Life, as the value of Life is Life. This kind of 'equal system' cannot breakdown, as it ensures all are taken cared for, so that all can do what is best for ALL. Imagine a world where everyOne cares for everyone as their self..
KristinaSalas 4 months ago
@KristinaSalas
"Consider that a 'societal breakdown' can only exists when it's starting point was broke from the beginning"
Not at all, there could be any number of issues, from religious tensions to a viral pandemic, they've happened in the past with disastrous and destabilising consequences - and the future is not immune to human nature or natural catastrophe.
smallblueclouds 4 months ago
part 1- $ not being the driving force to survive any longer b/c it's not relevant to live as this will be taken care of w/in the system of support that equal money will provide. The money will be available to give all a lifestyle that is enjoyable as the principles of the system is seeing all life as self, war will end, profit driven business will end, and cash flow will open up to be given to those that desire to have it more then the basic needs require. If you want more $ u can work for it.
goodrow17 4 months ago 4
this @ smallblueclouds
goodrow17 4 months ago
@KristinaSalas
"This kind of 'equal system' cannot breakdown"
Numerous ideologies have claimed to be 'unsinkable', impossible for them to breakdown, and one by one they go down like the Titanic - but I can't see the EMS even getting out of the harbour, or if it does there will be no one on board.
If a 16 year old dick head who likes to throw bricks at passing trains is paid the same as a neurosurgeon resentment will soon set in the first time the orange crop fails.
smallblueclouds 4 months ago
@smallblueclouds -the whole system that is in place has to go completely, it's not impossible to see a system that is fair and equal for all, it is the human as the director of this system to see it thru, either one is for equality or one is for self interest desires seeing within a narrow window of some will get equal money where they don't deserve it cause they are lazy, stupid, or whatever the excuse is, is irrelevant b/c all will have a new outlook on life as it's not in ?, it's guaranteed.
goodrow17 4 months ago 5
@goodrow17
"seeing within a narrow window of: "some will get equal money where they don't deserve it [be]cause they are lazy, stupid, or whatever the excuse is" - is irrelevant b/c all will have a new outlook"
I can't see the distinction being irrelevant when someone who has worked for 30 years with disabled children has the same access to resources as someone who refuses to work, but does break in and vandalise the disabled children's day care centre.
smallblueclouds 4 months ago
part 2- There is always solutions to the issues that arise, it's time for humans to stand up and take responsibility for what has been created here, and create a system that supports everyone. Equal money system is a system that is defined and anchored by it's principles of oneness as life and equal as all here. What is best for all is not able to be debated within the truth of self, so it's common sense living that we are after and getting things done to stop the abuse of this current system.
goodrow17 4 months ago 5
@small- part 1-This is an extreme case, & is irrelevant based on the fact that their might be unknown reasons to why someone would vandalize the disable child's school, not that that is justifiable, but 1 can't judge the actions of another. W/in this new system being proposed, there will b a re-education of the human within principles of self respect and self honesty, teaching from the get go how to practically solve issues that come up instead resorting to vandalizing a school or causing abuse.
goodrow17 4 months ago 12
@goodrow17
Pt: 1
> "This is an extreme case, & is irrelevant"
It's relevant as it's illustrative of a divide in contribution to society.
> "but 1 can't judge the actions of another"
Sure you can, I just did, I judge the vandalism of a disabled children's day care centre as being less of a contribution to society than that made by those who work with the children. Racists have a lower standing in my opinion than comedians, look at how easy I find it to judge the actions of others! It's easy.
smallblueclouds 4 months ago
Pt: 2
"W/in this new system being proposed, there will b a re-education of the human . . . "
As much as you might like to image you have found a solution to all of human ills, believe me you are only rehashing a kind of naïve reductionist communism.
What happens if someone doesn't want to be "re-educated" (Pol Pot comes to mind !). Would they be free to chose how they wish to live their life - or would they be forcibly "re-educated" ?
smallblueclouds 4 months ago
@goodrow17
"There is always solutions to the issues that arise"
What are the top three problems that you think might arise with an EMS ?
smallblueclouds 4 months ago
@smallblue - all problems solved with the equality equation 1+1 = 2 using common sense and what is best for all involved, one have to be self honest and not in ego to see this thru. There are major problems in this current system, which only benefits the few, Life is for all and should be supported likewise, doing to others as you would want 4 urself is a cool point to formulate any solution that you could come too....do you have it in you to give to all as you would want, if so, support EMS.
goodrow17 4 months ago 3
@goodrow17
"all problems solved . . "
So EMS has no potential problems at all ?
Am I right in thinking that if I have a bad day at work (let's imagine I like to go out most nights - hit a few clubs - get pretty drunk and generally have a great time with my friends) . . and my boss has a go at me for always being late, I can simply walk out, go home put my feet up and then spend the next year sitting in the park drinking tea and reading magazines ? And my income will not be effected ?
smallblueclouds 4 months ago
part 2-The point of this system is that no more abuse will be allowed like starving children, and life will be based on the best outcome for every being that is alive. Push yourself out of your brainwashing and see if you could give to another as you would want for yourself, it's a question of do humans have the will to see this system come to be, equal money system is the will to do just that by humans that care for the well being of all.
goodrow17 4 months ago 4
@goodrow17
> "Push yourself out of your brainwashing . . . "
Drop your sanctimonious attitude and you might find people more willing to listen to your ideas. Learn to discuss an idea while leaving the personality of the person you are talking to out of the conversation.
> "it's a question of do humans have the will to see this system come to be"
Very very unlikely, it falls foul of numerous innate human traits and would be impossible to implement as well as being statist in the extreme.
smallblueclouds 4 months ago
Had a bad day at the hospital were you clean the toilets and mop the corridors, your boss was being a bit of a bastard ? . . . simple . . . just walk out, whether you work or not has no bearing on your income . . were the kids at the school where you teach finally getting to you with their typical teenage high spirits and rowdiness, simple, just walk out, go home and spend the rest of the year sitting in the park reading a nice novel with a flask of tea.
Welcome to the workers paradise.
Lol.
smallblueclouds 4 months ago
@KristinaSalas
OK, I have taken the time to look into the Equal Money System - amongst the features we see forced labour, 're-education' and a distinct lack of freedoms, it's not only a naïve and reductionist reworking of communism - it's the very worst of communism, total state power, no free trade, no freedom of expression, and certainly no civil liberties, to quote the shaved headed fanatics behind the idea: "we won't tolerate free speech".
It is a comically poor idea, laughable even.
smallblueclouds 4 months ago
@DontBeFooled2012
"He did NOT covertly hand any information to China, Russia, Iran, etc. "
WTF??
He released his own countries operations and all of it assets all over the internet for all to see.
And that put his fellow soldiers and all of their allies at risk at a time of war.
He really should be executed.
I sincerely hope he is.
FEMADEATHCAMPCONTROL 4 months ago
@DontBeFooled2012
"he did NOT give information to the enemy,"
You mean apart from where he releases countless classified documents detailing operations that his colleagues are involved in and the names of their informants on the ground?
I would say that was giving information to the enemy.
Wouldnt you?
Hes lucky to not already be summarily executed.
FEMADEATHCAMPCONTROL 4 months ago
Raise your weapon-deadmau5 amazing song
fronoc 4 months ago
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fronoc 4 months ago
@DontBeFooled2012
Giving away intelligence to an enemy is by its nature, traitorous.
Bradley did exactly that.
He deserves everything coming to him.
FEMADEATHCAMPCONTROL 4 months ago
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@DontBeFooled2012
"held in virtual solitary confinement for months,forced to strip,denied adequate mental stimulation, etc"
Sounds excellent.
In days past, he would already been in front of a firing squad and already , very dead.
FEMADEATHCAMPCONTROL 4 months ago
@DontBeFooled2012
I said he "should" be executed as a traitor.
He certainly is one.
Whether he will be, is another matter.
FEMADEATHCAMPCONTROL 4 months ago
@DontBeFooled2012
Only a tiny number of nutjobs care about what either you, or the media whore Charlie, think about anything ,really.
Yoy will realise that, when you grow up.
FEMADEATHCAMPCONTROL 4 months ago
Seems like the day has finally come, Charlie. The world has changed a lot since the days of " everything is OK". Rock on brotha! #Occupy The World!