Oh yes, I remember... one of the most absurd situations in the life of a musician is to play in front of a jury in order to be *judged*. (?!) No matter if its Segovia or Mister Nobody, they all look similar in situations like this : professionally bored, pencil in hand, murmuring to each other or hiding their mouths with the hand while sceptical watching the trembling "accused". (!?) Ridiculous situation which has nothing to do with art. Not even when my admired Segovia is involved.
@erikolten You are somewhat correct, Segovia is a quiet arrogant person indeed. Barrios tried to avoid him at one stage as well because he wanted a copy of a piece from Barrios. Also he was quiet unknown when he first went to the Ramirez workshop and the rest you know the story, maybe that is where his ego is fed... But ultimately, it comes through his playing style, you can feel the ego and pride in his music... he was much better when he was young...
@mahkilljoy Why don't you go and buy it. Or, if you really can't be bothered to spend twenty dollars on getting a legitimate copy, go to IMSLP. They probably have some editions that fall into public domain.
El amigo Richard toca perfecto, tecnicamente no hay q objetarle, pero la sensibilidad q transmiten las interpretaciones de Segovia son algo nunca experimentado ante un guitarrista, increiblemente hermoso. Gracias Andres querido!
Masterclass ? ! It looks like Spanish Inquisition ! ! But I do love this video ... the nerves, the tension, the concentration, the verdict .... wonderful
That poor guy must have felt like a rabbit before a constrictor, He did an amazing job then after he set the guitar down the man was talking Spanish with the board, Brass balls for sure. Amazing music!
i used to show up for auditions out of tune too,,, bass would stay in tune for a year and then suddenly drop out of tune the very day of the examination... and playing for segovia must be a real emotional tour de force
If nothing else, this video shows how far the classical guitar has come in the last 40 years. Today, Johnson's performance wouldn't even advance him past the qualifying round of a local guitar competition. But we owe a lot to the ground-breakers like Segovia and his students. Without them, we would not be where we are today.
Yeah i feel you on that one. It has brought us to where we are now. But do you hear the distortion? Do you think maybe the microphone is really bad? Segovia must have picked him for a reason>
I wasn't thinking about the sound. I was thinking about the fact that the piece was not challenging (any good high-school-level guitarist could play it these days) and the interpretation was almost entirely without musicality.
I'm not talking about the technical aspect, nor about the sound. I'm talking about musicality. Johnson makes hardly any attempt at phrasing, for example. He plays like a robot.
for me this is a good performance regarding phrasing, it's not excellent, but it's not bad at all. and i think almost no high school student would play it very well either
Thank heavens we got passed this period. Though orderly, too stodgy. The ideal is be magnificent and 'romantic, ballsy', not merely narrowly magnificent.
Wow! This is my gandfather playing, and he looks so young! No matter what anyone says I think he plays wonderfully, and I will always love his music!<3
I love how they are so nervous at the beginning-wiping their hands and such. that cracks me up. I understand the feeling. yes, the fella is out of tune by a few cents. you can see it in his face he's off. poor fella.
Ouch!!!What's up with this guy's left hand??? This guy didn't stand a chance against Miguel Barbera! No way! In regards to Segovia,we need to take into account the "methods" for passing on information.Guitar Pedagogy was still in it's infancy compared to today.Credit should be given where credit is due and Segovia did a tremendous amount of work to get the guitar to be taken seriously.Now everyone and their grandmother plays or wants to learn how to play the guitar. Salud!
I see what you're saying about the left hand - bring that wrist down! Looks like there's a lot of tension in his fingers. His thumb (right hand) is quite curved too. Still, he played the piece better than I suppose I could.
Segovia tocaba muy bonito no se niega, pero fue un egoista total con barrios mangore y eso porque barrios lo superaba facilmente en la ejecucion de las obras. Como prueba del egoismo un boton: busquen por internet una obra de barrios tocada por Segovia. Creo que no la encontraran.
No sé por qué marca la gente tu comentario como spam. Lo que dices es totalmente cierto.. Mangoré fué un gran guitarrista, en mi opinión mejor que Segovia, escuchen grabaciones de Barrios.. están llenas de virtuosismo y musicalidad. Qué lástima que por orgullo Segovia no se dignara a tocar música de él.
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The discusion between segova and his mates is about what they are going to do with all the money that they are going to make sitting on their arses and doing precious little to earn any of it. Its a free concert for them to watch while the audience has to pay top dollar to see it. Give the kid a prize ,that will change his mind about complaining. They are the classical music equivalent of d.h.s.s. benefit cheats. If you could get away with it you would,wouldn't you?
I couldn't make out whether this was a chapel of rest where the curtains had just been drawn,or a court of law where the 'judges' were about to sentence the poor sap to death if he dared hit a bum note!...what a sad film to put on YouTube indeed!
Nobody critisises Ronald McDonald for making his burgers taste the same all over the world
mmmmm!
In other words you know exactly what
you are going to get when you go to see a
recital these days and you have to thank
Segovia for that.
What a mess the guitar world would be in if we all started playing these pieces in our own style.
Segovia knew what was best for us and if that wasn't the case guitarists all over the world would all be doing there own thing by now but they are not.
Quote 'Suddenly I decided to become the apostle of the guitar'said Segovia back in 1909.Never mind the fact that he had been copying Tarrega who just happened to die the same year...
It's no wonder Tarregas pupils and fans never accepted him!!
I think you are right about that. But Segovia deserves his credit and Tarrega should not even be included in any talk like this. Because Tarrega was a humble man who play mostly to make others happy, not to become a famous jerk.
I don't mind he fact that segovia ripped off tarregas style and sanitized it for all the other wooden classical guitarists to copy . Somebody had to get the recognition for it and Segovia decided that person would be him. Talent will only get to so far and then you will have to rely on slagging off anyone who has another approach to guitar music. And you all grabbed onto it hook line and sinker. So there is little point in moaning about it now. You only have yourselves to blame.
I am not to blame about anything, because I haven't agreed on any wrong action taken by Segovia. I only said that he deserves credit. He did made the guitar be seen and respect as a classical instrument. They didn't make the guy a statue for copying Tarrega's work.
Oh dear josue,so you agree he copied Tarregas work yet you think Tarrega should not be included in this talk?Well poor ole Tarr lets just forget about him shall we? lets just talk about the great Seggs instead. It sounds to me that you have been brainwashed my friend,Have you sacrificed your originality too in the name of the Segg God?Have you had to pay megabucks for tickets to see the old man bang out his old mates songs??If so then Prof Shnagel was right!YOU ONLY HAVE YOURSELF TO BLAME!
What? I have a biography on Tarrega that was written in Spain. Tarrega is my favorite classical guitarist of all the time. I have almost everyone of his songs and really enjoy and learn from his ways of playing and the things he said about playing.
I am relieved that you are not a Seggs Robot after all! but tell me something..what have you learnt from Tarrega?Has he inspired you to experiment with the bigger picture ie elaborate on his work by giving it your OWN interpretation or maybe even compose your own classical masterpiece that you could share with us on YouTube.that would be cool indeedy! or maybe instead you just copy HIS work note for note? So be creative!Throw away the books,Drop the E to a D,Roll a fat one and enjoy being young!
wouldnt you love to just break out into , i got the jack , from acdc.
ol sausage fingers segovia , couldnt compose to save his life , repressed other composers of greater talent , dominated and muscled his way to the top . just look at the tension in that room , that is NOT the sharing of music .
With deep respect, a little bit "thumb under" technique, but the biggest mistake is the music. The music not in the style. It should not any slide technique in Baroque music.
I agree with you, I didn't think this performance was very good, the style was not "baroque" enough.
a little btw, we all know Bach wasn't one of Segovia's specialties, but it was definitely fun to watch him in the works for sure..it's so cool to see the maestro at work!
man seriously i cant believe they pull it off, its so intimidating, not only some very powerful people but amidst them Segovia himself... thats like playing for the god of guitar, tryin to impress him...
In your mind you must realize the truth. You are all human beings, and you are showing him your efforts in studies. One should only fear when one is ashamed.
does anybody know if segovia ever transcribed anything by debussy? he seems to like those tower chords, i notice johnson throws in a couple which arent in the music for this tune i've heard, and i think debussy was one of the first characters to introduce jazz-type chords to classical music.
Segovia was asleep at the wheel here, I think. The technique is surely fine, but to award second prize in the presence of such disastrous tuning suggests either (a) Segovia was tone-deaf or (b) he valued technique above being in tune. Or was he too indolent to stop the performance and gently suggest retuning?
who's to decide on whther a tuning is 'right' or 'wrong' ? The fact that the note A has remained unchanged with the times is a little far fetched, i would think. It just sounds out of tune for the modern ear. The above suggestion of yours is a little, if not a lot, presumptuous.
It doesn't have anything to do with the reference pitch A but instead with the tuning between the strings, which is indeed off. It doesn't really matter in this case because this was in 1965, and the state of classical guitar was not at all then like it is today. He was a student in earlier times! Give him some slack.
It is probably due to the inadequate recording equipment that was used to film this masterclass. Most analogue forms of recording (Cassette, and other reel based mediums) have a tendency to speed up or slow down a minute amount, which unfortunately can be detected by most an ear.
No, it's just out of tune. Very consistently out of tune. No need to try to blame the equipment. Come to think of it, that's what so many guitarists say: "It would sound better if I had a better guitar!!" ;-)
Yes, ten8goa, it is out of tune, darn it, but the guy was committed, or it might have been the guitar- maybe in the sun and he brought it in to a cooler room or something.
Please note: This performance was in 1965. The first classical guitar in North America was not for another ten years, Toronto 1975. The first GFA was not until 1982. It would be nice to see how well one would do growing with such a history and playing in front of Maestro Segovia along with four of the greatest composers and musicians that were with him at that table, not to mention a couple dozen of their international peers.
I'll be honest, before reading this post I thought that the piece did sound a little unprepared but you're are. Those are very overwhelming circumstances and I have trouble just playing for my guitar class.
Actually to be honest, I have been playing strictly classica guitar for about 6-7 months, and Im sorry but I think i play the prelude a little better than that.
johnson's the man. how he didn't have a heart attack i'll never know haha
bobbygoesbig 2 months ago
My, what wee, skinny fingers he has. I would be like Paganini if I had fingers that small!
5stringofFernandoSor 4 months ago
My teacher have been touching ANDRES SEGOVIA !!! :D
minikvanhalen 4 months ago
Al gore is The Devil. Why even bring his worthless ass up on such a nice thing as Bach and Segovia? You ruined my day Sergeantk, thanks!
dizzyvonclutch 5 months ago
who won the first prize?
wildwestpoint 6 months ago
O^O "...momento..."
filardope 6 months ago
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escapethesoundoftrut 6 months ago
maestro Rafael Puyana is sitting right next to Segovia
elgabo77 7 months ago in playlist VILLA - LOBOS ....JOHN WILLIAMS....Andrés Segovia.....
Probably the most intimidating masterclass environment I've ever seen. I feel like the poor schmuck is on trial for his life. JESUS!!!!!!
Jonlemaar 8 months ago
I play the whole 998 fairly well when I'm sitting alone in my apartment, but I'm pretty sure I'd fall apart if I had to play for Segovia.
feralmusic 9 months ago 3
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Hrisant1 9 months ago
great masters
Hrisant1 9 months ago
Your grandfather was a master.
kchaney56 9 months ago
was andres segovia ever young?
shaq147 11 months ago 11
@shaq147 no he is the grandpa of guitar.. grandpas are always old i guees xD
elvisPTpor 11 months ago
@shaq147 lol! it seems that way when you search him on you tube. Segovia was ruthless!
grundelman 10 months ago
@shaq147 You can find his photo when he was young on Ramirez, M.Ramirez gave Segoiva a guitar.
CNFrostXY 7 months ago
Really good playing, but is it just me when I think that he looks a bit uncomfortable when he plays because his guitar is slanted in his arms?
Shikamaru1212 11 months ago
@Shikamaru1212 I think that happens when you play for Andres Segovia my friend...
xXxGoyexXx 10 months ago
Oh yes, I remember... one of the most absurd situations in the life of a musician is to play in front of a jury in order to be *judged*. (?!) No matter if its Segovia or Mister Nobody, they all look similar in situations like this : professionally bored, pencil in hand, murmuring to each other or hiding their mouths with the hand while sceptical watching the trembling "accused". (!?) Ridiculous situation which has nothing to do with art. Not even when my admired Segovia is involved.
FHgitarre 1 year ago 2
@FHgitarre So true. What the hell is wrong with Segovia? This is not how he learned... Jerk.
erikolten 7 months ago
@erikolten You are somewhat correct, Segovia is a quiet arrogant person indeed. Barrios tried to avoid him at one stage as well because he wanted a copy of a piece from Barrios. Also he was quiet unknown when he first went to the Ramirez workshop and the rest you know the story, maybe that is where his ego is fed... But ultimately, it comes through his playing style, you can feel the ego and pride in his music... he was much better when he was young...
CNFrostXY 7 months ago
Bravo! Bravo!!!!
glassynails 1 year ago
Please, please, PLEASE tell me that someone here can give me the sheet music for this.
mahkilljoy 1 year ago
@mahkilljoy Why don't you go and buy it. Or, if you really can't be bothered to spend twenty dollars on getting a legitimate copy, go to IMSLP. They probably have some editions that fall into public domain.
classicalmannick101 1 year ago
@classicalmannick101 Don't even bother. I already learned it.
mahkilljoy 11 months ago
ok now breath....
ummagumma73 1 year ago
Good performance but what a bunch of stiffs. Can you imagine Jimi Hendrix showing up? Or even Paco de Lucia? Welcome to Antarctica...
davidleealford 1 year ago
Much like the x-factor in every way.
MusicSimpson 1 year ago 5
Like this performance! He must have nerves of steel!!
scottierobertson 1 year ago
he was so out of tune :\
peckawood 1 year ago
Terrible, A real horror movie.
;(
ericlemieuxmusic 1 year ago
this song is sick! i wana learn it.
Zarat818 1 year ago
Imagine sitting there in front of Segovia playing this, quite well. I'm sure the maestro was pleased.
4578a 1 year ago 3
I'm nervous just watching, imagine what that poor guy felt. Apparently he did well.
karch139 1 year ago 5
Is this their idea of having fun...? It looks like a play or you are dead contest.
Za7a7aZ 1 year ago 2
<a classico, keeping the cool after mistake.
voljakat 1 year ago
excellent, what a scary moment.. i bet he still enjoys this video much to this day.
alterbridge111 1 year ago
I guess if you can play under that kind of pressure you can play anywhere.
Xelanderthomas 1 year ago 3
a piece of history of music! thanks for sharing!
macampa1 2 years ago
at 2:21 it looks like his foot stool is invisible and he is just holding his leg up haha
aria250mm 2 years ago 5
El amigo Richard toca perfecto, tecnicamente no hay q objetarle, pero la sensibilidad q transmiten las interpretaciones de Segovia son algo nunca experimentado ante un guitarrista, increiblemente hermoso. Gracias Andres querido!
otrousuariomass 2 years ago 2
looks like the board of directors at a nazi prison camp!
thejugglenaut91 2 years ago
HOHO SCARY AS HELL
VIKTORMENDOZA 2 years ago 2
Masterclass ? ! It looks like Spanish Inquisition ! ! But I do love this video ... the nerves, the tension, the concentration, the verdict .... wonderful
qwhisdjnzdz 2 years ago
intimidating but he knows what he's talking about
nylonthanh 2 years ago
Segovia was over 9000
digittydog 2 years ago 5
That poor guy must have felt like a rabbit before a constrictor, He did an amazing job then after he set the guitar down the man was talking Spanish with the board, Brass balls for sure. Amazing music!
shizzle5150 2 years ago 3
@shizzle5150
Dick Johnson's got brass balls!
145inA 2 years ago
That panel looks scary as hell...
jonniejc 2 years ago 5
I think i would be really nervous if i played in front of segovia.
I would always think that i screw up every note i play because i havent played it as well as him
greywrath 2 years ago 3
I would hate playing in front of Segovia.
It would be scary.
maxhiner699 2 years ago 2
It certainly would now.
wungabunga 2 years ago 2
LOL...
woshushe 2 years ago
Looks like AJ on the Sopranos.
TRAINIAC19 2 years ago 2
Thank your god for the internet. I would have never seen this if not for the internet.
sergeantk 2 years ago 27
@sergeantk thank Al gore
Automaticman88 5 months ago
@sergeantk Amen.
5stringofFernandoSor 4 months ago
To perform in front of Andrés Segovia... I'd be shitting in my pants
adrian5b 2 years ago 79
haha, i was thinking the same too, before he start playing everyone was like panic.
jongboon 2 years ago 2
@adrian5b You seem to be doing that continually. Go back to England where they do that.
Kramnosnits 1 year ago
@Kramnosnits But... I've never been there...
adrian5b 1 year ago
@adrian5b - haha, it's more polite to say you'd get cold feet. I quite understand. ;- )
goldie0800 1 year ago
way thumbs up 4 da comment heheh
gibson720 4 months ago
@adrian5b I know what you mean. That dude like totally just got Knighted in front of his court too, old school style.
5stringofFernandoSor 4 months ago
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Woa way too fast, slow down cowboy!
jagara1 2 years ago
His tempo is fine, calm down.
EricAndrewWallace 2 years ago
the guitar is not in tune
asxefv 2 years ago 2
Amdres Segovia es indiscutiblemente un maestro de la guitarra, pero como enseñante es de la escuela antigua clasica donde prima la mala ostia.
Ayers76 2 years ago 3
Esta gente que está en un entierro?, la verdadera musica no es eso, es tecnica, pero es más sentimiento y personalidad del interprete.
Ayers76 2 years ago
jeje...
dgtorresp 2 years ago
es barroco es dificil poner ese sentimiento que quieres??
slayeder 2 years ago
viva segoviaaaaaaaaaa!!!
juanmorenojuanjo 2 years ago 3
unos de los astros de la guitarra clasica segovia siempre grande
troila 2 years ago
genius!
handymikeforever 2 years ago
He's out of tune.
koreankayagum 2 years ago
i used to show up for auditions out of tune too,,, bass would stay in tune for a year and then suddenly drop out of tune the very day of the examination... and playing for segovia must be a real emotional tour de force
ArthurGanate 2 years ago
yes you re right
asxefv 2 years ago
If nothing else, this video shows how far the classical guitar has come in the last 40 years. Today, Johnson's performance wouldn't even advance him past the qualifying round of a local guitar competition. But we owe a lot to the ground-breakers like Segovia and his students. Without them, we would not be where we are today.
LSpencer777 2 years ago 3
Yeah i feel you on that one. It has brought us to where we are now. But do you hear the distortion? Do you think maybe the microphone is really bad? Segovia must have picked him for a reason>
prssgman23 2 years ago
I wasn't thinking about the sound. I was thinking about the fact that the piece was not challenging (any good high-school-level guitarist could play it these days) and the interpretation was almost entirely without musicality.
LSpencer777 2 years ago
i think you are not really listening :-), even if technically it is not perfect, it sounds good
kowalsky111 2 years ago
I'm not talking about the technical aspect, nor about the sound. I'm talking about musicality. Johnson makes hardly any attempt at phrasing, for example. He plays like a robot.
LSpencer777 2 years ago
dont agree, i hear every phrase
kowalsky111 2 years ago
the phrasing is emphasized even there are accents on the bottom notes in each phrase, listen carefully
WheatDream 2 years ago
for me this is a good performance regarding phrasing, it's not excellent, but it's not bad at all. and i think almost no high school student would play it very well either
kowalsky111 2 years ago
lol right...maybe its not brilliant but you're greatly overrating the "high-school-level guitarist".
chris69666 2 years ago
I am not talking about one mistake, i think he has given little thought to his interpretation- i see little merit in it.
doublealufwaffe 2 years ago
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007JamesJamon 2 years ago
a few shots of whiskey works too
bitcheznhos 2 years ago
Excellent!
Recomend also "David Moreno" in youtube.
David Moreno was one of Segovia's favorite students.
Ishayau 2 years ago
I get the impression that he is incredibly nervous, of course, i would be to. I have played worse.
doublealufwaffe 2 years ago
yeah I get that impression too
atw42 2 years ago
good
StagemasterHSH 2 years ago
OMG...I am breaking out in a cold sweat! I thought it was a fine performance...ademas, he is a student!
RosaeCrucis57 2 years ago
Yeah I'd be uncomfortable too if Segovia was studying me every move...Cut the guy some slack.. It was a fine performance.
MetalMilitia0101 2 years ago
Having had a brief encounter with the great Segovia I can assure you it is a daunting experience..............................but very worthwhile
classicmaton 2 years ago
I think Richard made one or two mistakes, plus his la guittara wasnt tuned. Good Pre, he got second place.
Theonedue 3 years ago
simply nostalgia.
zkwir 3 years ago
Thank heavens we got passed this period. Though orderly, too stodgy. The ideal is be magnificent and 'romantic, ballsy', not merely narrowly magnificent.
HarmonicsExplorer 3 years ago
To mechanical no dynamics!!
Snotra 3 years ago
Wow! This is my gandfather playing, and he looks so young! No matter what anyone says I think he plays wonderfully, and I will always love his music!<3
kagome596 3 years ago 58
@kagome596 did your grandfather find his way in the music field?
cagnetto 1 year ago
@kagome596 dude if this was you grand papy he is the man and its beautifull in all the ways that are to be....
supper cool men
Jorgelale@yahoo.com
jorgelale420 1 year ago
@kagome596 Yea and I'm Segovia's illegitimate love child.
musmann 1 year ago
@musmann Hmm, I sense some sarcasm. But he truly is my grandfather, whether you choose to believe it or not.
kagome596 1 year ago 2
@kagome596 Yea and I'm Segovia's illegitimate love child.
musmann 1 year ago
@kagome596
r u serious?!
yuepon13 1 year ago
@kagome596 Regardless of whether or not he is your grandfather, he played well.
Explosiveelm 1 year ago
I love how they are so nervous at the beginning-wiping their hands and such. that cracks me up. I understand the feeling. yes, the fella is out of tune by a few cents. you can see it in his face he's off. poor fella.
flaegin 3 years ago
guitar sounds a bit out of tune..
the g string or intonation problem
mozam007 3 years ago
Definitely the G string. The right hand is impecible - excellent rest strokes though the dynamics are wanting.
jonboy700 3 years ago
yes!
Spetetescion 3 years ago
CarlosMacMartin 3 years ago
I see what you're saying about the left hand - bring that wrist down! Looks like there's a lot of tension in his fingers. His thumb (right hand) is quite curved too. Still, he played the piece better than I suppose I could.
xHarry2112x 3 years ago
Carlos,
It looks like someone told him to place his left hand thumb between 2nd and 3rd fingers. Weird.
Lutemann 3 years ago
I'm glad Aaron Shearer really observed the
mistakes he and other players were making in
those days.Too bad he hurt his hand in the
process to discover "correct technique".I'm
a big fan of the Shearer Method & the Pumping
Nylon Method.I think it's safe to conclude any
extreme bends in either wrist is bad news and
will only lead to problems later on.
CarlosMacMartin 3 years ago
yeh looks real uncomfortable, his right hand thumb looks pretty unnatural too.
albatross111 3 years ago
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Segovia tocaba muy bonito no se niega, pero fue un egoista total con barrios mangore y eso porque barrios lo superaba facilmente en la ejecucion de las obras. Como prueba del egoismo un boton: busquen por internet una obra de barrios tocada por Segovia. Creo que no la encontraran.
ferdice 3 years ago
No sé por qué marca la gente tu comentario como spam. Lo que dices es totalmente cierto.. Mangoré fué un gran guitarrista, en mi opinión mejor que Segovia, escuchen grabaciones de Barrios.. están llenas de virtuosismo y musicalidad. Qué lástima que por orgullo Segovia no se dignara a tocar música de él.
guitarradeviento 3 years ago
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professorschnagel 3 years ago
I couldn't make out whether this was a chapel of rest where the curtains had just been drawn,or a court of law where the 'judges' were about to sentence the poor sap to death if he dared hit a bum note!...what a sad film to put on YouTube indeed!
preachergas 3 years ago
Congratulations Mr Segovia ,one more robot
guitarist leaves your production line.
And he won't be the last one either because
West Dean guitar summer school is about
to knock some more out in august.
questforgoodmusic 3 years ago
Nobody critisises Ronald McDonald for making his burgers taste the same all over the world
mmmmm!
In other words you know exactly what
you are going to get when you go to see a
recital these days and you have to thank
Segovia for that.
What a mess the guitar world would be in if we all started playing these pieces in our own style.
Segovia knew what was best for us and if that wasn't the case guitarists all over the world would all be doing there own thing by now but they are not.
professorschnagel 3 years ago
Quote 'Suddenly I decided to become the apostle of the guitar'said Segovia back in 1909.Never mind the fact that he had been copying Tarrega who just happened to die the same year...
It's no wonder Tarregas pupils and fans never accepted him!!
preachergas 3 years ago
I think you are right about that. But Segovia deserves his credit and Tarrega should not even be included in any talk like this. Because Tarrega was a humble man who play mostly to make others happy, not to become a famous jerk.
DjosueD 3 years ago 2
professorschnagel 3 years ago
I am not to blame about anything, because I haven't agreed on any wrong action taken by Segovia. I only said that he deserves credit. He did made the guitar be seen and respect as a classical instrument. They didn't make the guy a statue for copying Tarrega's work.
DjosueD 3 years ago
Don't get me wrong the guys a genius!
He had the midas touch and he didn't
care where the money came from
If you had real talent he could make
money from it and that's worth a statue
in my book.
p.s.
Did they make his statue out of wood?
professorschnagel 3 years ago
Oh dear josue,so you agree he copied Tarregas work yet you think Tarrega should not be included in this talk?Well poor ole Tarr lets just forget about him shall we? lets just talk about the great Seggs instead. It sounds to me that you have been brainwashed my friend,Have you sacrificed your originality too in the name of the Segg God?Have you had to pay megabucks for tickets to see the old man bang out his old mates songs??If so then Prof Shnagel was right!YOU ONLY HAVE YOURSELF TO BLAME!
preachergas 3 years ago
What? I have a biography on Tarrega that was written in Spain. Tarrega is my favorite classical guitarist of all the time. I have almost everyone of his songs and really enjoy and learn from his ways of playing and the things he said about playing.
DjosueD 3 years ago
I am relieved that you are not a Seggs Robot after all! but tell me something..what have you learnt from Tarrega?Has he inspired you to experiment with the bigger picture ie elaborate on his work by giving it your OWN interpretation or maybe even compose your own classical masterpiece that you could share with us on YouTube.that would be cool indeedy! or maybe instead you just copy HIS work note for note? So be creative!Throw away the books,Drop the E to a D,Roll a fat one and enjoy being young!
preachergas 3 years ago
I do not comprehend what roll a fat one is. But I have learned a lot just by listening to his songs. And I have indeed completed my first work.
DjosueD 3 years ago
Who are the three gentlemen alongside Segovia?
Who won first prize? John Williams?
reformedman 3 years ago 2
@reformedman I'm not sure, but I think it was Oscar Ghiglia...
George199513 7 months ago
wouldnt you love to just break out into , i got the jack , from acdc.
ol sausage fingers segovia , couldnt compose to save his life , repressed other composers of greater talent , dominated and muscled his way to the top . just look at the tension in that room , that is NOT the sharing of music .
unhappy old farts.
bigmuso123 3 years ago
hehe very true indeed.
Feezability 3 years ago
With deep respect, a little bit "thumb under" technique, but the biggest mistake is the music. The music not in the style. It should not any slide technique in Baroque music.
Corrector1966 3 years ago
I agree with you, I didn't think this performance was very good, the style was not "baroque" enough.
a little btw, we all know Bach wasn't one of Segovia's specialties, but it was definitely fun to watch him in the works for sure..it's so cool to see the maestro at work!
nisomer 3 years ago
poor guy's out of tune. And did you see them all constantly wiping the sweat from their palms?
GDillworth 3 years ago
Who are those men with Andres Segovia?
guaniamo 3 years ago
Thas his posse, dawg!
guitarslim56 3 years ago
Probably esteemed classical guitarists/composers, to judge how the performers do OR just to look menacing to them....either or
grayh123 3 years ago
man seriously i cant believe they pull it off, its so intimidating, not only some very powerful people but amidst them Segovia himself... thats like playing for the god of guitar, tryin to impress him...
Hendrixleft 3 years ago
In your mind you must realize the truth. You are all human beings, and you are showing him your efforts in studies. One should only fear when one is ashamed.
Simonomon2 3 years ago 2
It's like American Idol for people with real talent, ha ha...
That was one intimidating arena to play in, wow.
donostia13 4 years ago 5
ha ha ha!! xD xD your right!!
Novum07 3 years ago
easy
beejay222 4 years ago
i would have just shit all over my pants at his presence
footballdemocracy 4 years ago 2
does anybody know if segovia ever transcribed anything by debussy? he seems to like those tower chords, i notice johnson throws in a couple which arent in the music for this tune i've heard, and i think debussy was one of the first characters to introduce jazz-type chords to classical music.
highway234 4 years ago
u mean classical music chords to jazz
missionary77 4 years ago
you split the hair one way, i split it the other evidently.
highway234 4 years ago
Well said.
JapJackson 4 years ago
scary to play infront of segovia
Essential0000 4 years ago
Awesome post... listening on headphones, love
the whispering they are doing, Trippy
bboywzrd1 4 years ago
1 - he takes the guitar from behind - tuned before begining
2 - he verifies the bass E string changed in D for this piece
3- there are not many ways of according the guitar because it is a tune D major & because the guitar is a TEMPERED instrument
4- the G string is false - he clearly understands it at 1:14 - look at his face !!!!
celine11810 4 years ago 2
Segovia was asleep at the wheel here, I think. The technique is surely fine, but to award second prize in the presence of such disastrous tuning suggests either (a) Segovia was tone-deaf or (b) he valued technique above being in tune. Or was he too indolent to stop the performance and gently suggest retuning?
jazztitch 4 years ago
who's to decide on whther a tuning is 'right' or 'wrong' ? The fact that the note A has remained unchanged with the times is a little far fetched, i would think. It just sounds out of tune for the modern ear. The above suggestion of yours is a little, if not a lot, presumptuous.
govindtube 4 years ago 2
I totally agree with you on this!
JimmyPage68 4 years ago
It doesn't have anything to do with the reference pitch A but instead with the tuning between the strings, which is indeed off. It doesn't really matter in this case because this was in 1965, and the state of classical guitar was not at all then like it is today. He was a student in earlier times! Give him some slack.
capnpayne 4 years ago
oh please ..... think before you write ... a) this a very old an low cuality recording b) have a littel respect to Segovia
JimmyPage68 4 years ago
I respect Segovia, and I also respect physics. The tuning is off.
capnpayne 4 years ago
it is off
cmhcds 4 years ago
It is probably due to the inadequate recording equipment that was used to film this masterclass. Most analogue forms of recording (Cassette, and other reel based mediums) have a tendency to speed up or slow down a minute amount, which unfortunately can be detected by most an ear.
D0ug16 4 years ago
No, it's just out of tune. Very consistently out of tune. No need to try to blame the equipment. Come to think of it, that's what so many guitarists say: "It would sound better if I had a better guitar!!" ;-)
boomchicksucks 3 years ago 3
try to play it yourself!
leonenmie 3 years ago 5
I thought it was beautiful, but everyone is always better on Y.T. comments: X is better than Y because . . .
volumeguy 4 years ago
Yes, ten8goa, it is out of tune, darn it, but the guy was committed, or it might have been the guitar- maybe in the sun and he brought it in to a cooler room or something.
ellison8 4 years ago 2
what's the title of tha tclassical melody?
MRZEROO 4 years ago
This is the Prelude from Bach's Prelude, Fugue & Allegro or PFA for short. Reference: Bach Prelude (BWV998)
SoloGuitaristNet 4 years ago
That comment was for zajorcretin by the way
lobextomy 4 years ago
Great posting. Fascinating stuff.
baconboy666 4 years ago 3
Sounds out of tune.....may just be the recording quality though....
Ohnani 4 years ago
ya thats definitely it.
allahisthegreatesttt 4 years ago
Please note: This performance was in 1965. The first classical guitar in North America was not for another ten years, Toronto 1975. The first GFA was not until 1982. It would be nice to see how well one would do growing with such a history and playing in front of Maestro Segovia along with four of the greatest composers and musicians that were with him at that table, not to mention a couple dozen of their international peers.
SoloGuitaristNet 4 years ago
I'll be honest, before reading this post I thought that the piece did sound a little unprepared but you're are. Those are very overwhelming circumstances and I have trouble just playing for my guitar class.
JohnSmith2k6 4 years ago
you're are right*
JohnSmith2k6 4 years ago
Sorry for the typo: The first classical guitar "COMPETITION" in North America was not for another ten years, Toronto 1975.
SoloGuitaristNet 4 years ago
Actually to be honest, I have been playing strictly classica guitar for about 6-7 months, and Im sorry but I think i play the prelude a little better than that.
zaj0rcrist 4 years ago