B/c boxing has a rich history Dana u moron! Fuck how much money u pull in, half the time the cards are all hype with little substance. The beefs are manufactored and most of the fighters get into the octogon and aren't rounded fighters.
UFC is going the route of wrestling turning it into a soap opera.
In UFC u can beat one guy in ur weight class and u already are in contention for the belt. Most weight classes lack depth so it doesn't take much to be next in line for a title shot.
I always sit down to each UFC excited, but when it's over I feel let down, but like a true junkie I anticipate the next hit and know after I get it it'll be like the last. Honestly, I would just watch UFC just for Logan Stanton, but now even she's gone so fucking no point watching it anymore (lol).
That's pretty well thought out excuse. Props to you for finding a convenient way out of this......and my use of the word "assume" is sound. It's you who needs an education.
Nothing makes you look like a bigger douche than correcting someones grammar and then making a big mistake in the same post. Next time, ignore the spelling errors and absorb the meaning of the comment.
I don't want to see him on TUF or the pay per views. I tune into TUF and the UFC to see fights and the fighters, not Dana White talking shit. Youtube is another story. I can CHOOSE to watch him on here or not. It only confirms that I am right about him. He's crying about not being covered. Maybe he needs to really consider why. The media controls everything and if he wants more coverage, then he should consider the fact that it just might be his attitude.
Surely your EDUCATION is more indicative than your age. You get me a ninety year old from some tribe in some non-descript place. Do you think he'd NECESSARILY be more intelligent than me? Doubt it.;)
Look at your Bill O'Reilly tactics. I tell you what, you give me the details of, say, two of the places you go to. I'll check out the legitimacy. I give you two back.
Don't bark if you can't bite. Prove yourself before challenging me.;)
LOL. You're right, I am childish. "I asked you first". You're so ridiculous.
I will now show you how stupid your logic is.
I challenge you to do forty million press-ups. If you cannot do this, I win the argument.
Firstly, I have nothing to prove to you. You seem to want to compare achievements. Sad, but alright. But do you think I want to post information that is that personal? I'm not that stupid. Now, if you were to reciprocate, I'd feel obliged to do the same.
Dana, maybe the reason the media won't cover your sport is because you're a classless douchebag. You don't turn womens golf on and hear a string of **** talk and profanity from the LPGA president. The media will never cover your sport until they think the people working for you are good role models. Hearing BJ Penn say he will "kill GSP" or hearing Brocks little rant or most TUF competitors profanity laced speeches is not what the media want's to deal with. That's the truth.
Dude, Dana has balls. No other professional sports commissioner or president tells it like it is like Dana. All the other guys are bitches. The reason why the UFC doesn't mainstream acceptance is because they still think its street brawling. kimbo on tuf isn't helping either.
Listen you limey chickenshit. You're a real tough guy insulting me from 2000 miles away. But you're 18, what should I expect? What do fucking interviews even matter jackass? I don't want to hear any of these sports comissioners talk. I want to watch fights, not listen to a douche like Dana talk. I have no desire to see his face on TV. He's a pencil pusher. He should sign the cheques and shut up. Nothing more. The fighters are the stars, not him. Talk to me when you grow up asshole.
Well that was totally unpredictable. I had not for one moment foreseen that you would come up with that age old adage, "You're x years of age, therefore you know nothing". Hilarious. Does the fact that I am younger make me NECESSARILY physically and/or mentally inferior to you? No, of course not. No intellectual person would contest that. I wonder if you can pick out the keyword. Secondly, if you don't want to watch Dana, why the fuck are you doing so? You contradict yourself. Ciao.
Pretty much yeah. You're no different than any other 18 year old turd that thinks he fucking knows everything. How many years of MA training do you have asshat? The fact that you insulted someone you don't even know tells me everything I need to know about you. You're a little POS pussy douchbag, internet shit talker. And I am watching this because a friend sent it to me because he knows I hate Dana. I wanted to see if he's still being an douche. He is.
Hey, so you're contradicting your previous point, with your last sentence.
Anyway, point out where I claimed I "know it all" and when did I actually mention anything that specifically required ANY MMA (or MA according to some) knowledge whatsoever?
lol. Pussy douchebag internet shit talker? What is this? Power Rangers?
Brock beat a nobody, then he lost to Mir, then beat a washed up Herring, then a 45 year old, then beat Mir. Brock does have power and potential, but he needs to work on several areas of his game before he can be said to be better than Overeem. Overeem would beat Lesnar right now. Bet on it.
My last comment is that the ufc just like verything else hit its peak. Ufc was so popular cause most americans never say full contact fighting or even knew anything out of boxing. Honsetly dream,shooto and the sanshou circuts have better fighters. So it still good entertainment but it cant keep growing like everyone was looking for.
WoW.you went off on a tangent for nothing didn't you big boy.Sylvia just got KO'd in what 5 secs by a boxer in an MMA fight.R U Serious? Arlovski was owned by B. Rogers. J Barnett already been in UFC and got owned..keep it real when talking man..I train MMA, do you? It's a little different when you do it then just watch it on TV..you probably hate it when they go to the ground or clinch against the cage because you don't understand it..LOL..Fedor is a dodger..but B Rogers will beat him..
I took ninjsui and freestyle shaolin kung fu and i practicing the ground game before the ufc got popular. Also the clinch is highly overrated. My firends have entered bb karate tournaments san shou tournments and i use to play basketball with the hawiian heavy weight champ so dont talk about yourself to make a point. One more thing didnt i already talk about how rankings mean nothing? Look at the wec had the top 4 145lb fighters and they all lost to mike brown who couldnt win it in japan.
but Fedor would rather hold on to his ranking than challenge himself. But like I said before Brett Rogers is going to beat him. Then all of this Fedor blah blah blah crap will be over. You can't call yourself the best if you haven't fought the best. I'm not saying Brock is the best by no means but he would pose a huge challenge for Fedor and anyone just because of his size alone. Mir would pose a threat to him. Randy would. It doesn't matter who has fought who in the past. Chuck beat Wanderlei
Whoa get something straight chuck won the fight he didnt beat him. Wand knocked liddel down and chuck rocked wand once and then ran when he realized he couldnt finish him thats different from beaten him, thats like in rocky when apollo says i won the fight but i didnt beat hjm, know the difference. Also anyone put up against a champion in any org should be able to challenge the champ so saying mir,couruture is like saying nothing cause your there to win.
You say this Fedor stuff will be over when Bret beats him? Really? After being undefeated in 31 fights? Wow.....Then you say he's ducking Randy? A guy who is 16-9? When did all the Randy blah blah crap end after he lost?........And Overeem is a far greater threat than a guy with 5 fights.......Overeem is more well rounded and is now just as big as Brock. How is THAT running from a challenge?
Look just go to msn. foxsports. com and go over to the MMA tab then click on Fedor's pick, 4th down and read what it says...proves my point...I'm done talking about this coward...
overheem is garbabge hes good kickboxer and for k1 but mma hell no and lightweight maybe but heavyweight hell no. Nobody is talking about randy and fedor anymore they want him to fight brock end of story.
He's garbage? He has K1 level striking, decent wrestling and a solid ground game. Brock has good wrestling, CRAP standup and CRAP BJJ. They are the same size now, so Overeem is clearly the more well rounded fighter, and a bigger threat.
no your wrong he has Great wretling and thats enough. Wrestler run the sport now. Not all of them champions but alot on the top rankings and i have to say since gsp learned how to wrestler with the canadian oplympians he seems unbeatable right now. Brock wins this fight tko 2nd round if not first. I do give the stamina factor to fedor and the experience of course. Hes more well rounded yes but wont beat brock. Everynody brock has beat is more well rounded them him. He just takes down GNP over
I looked at your profile and you are a 24 year old . What MA experience do you have to make these claims? In case you didn't notice 3 of the UFC champs are not wrestlers: Silva, Machida and Penn. ALL BJJ Black belts/strikers with limited wrestling skills. GSP is the WW champ because he is good at EVERYTHING including BJJ and striking, and he was a good wreslter long before he reached the UFC. He won his UCC belt from one of my instructors.
yeah im 24 but wrestled since i was 5 and currenlty working on BJJ. Im also been boxing for 5 years and im hoping to get into the wec when the 125 pound wegght class comes around and im currently 1-0 mma and 10-3 in boxing. I just started mma but been a huge fan and yes i agree that BJJ is great also but ive seen it over and over the wreslters walk into mma and do great. Not all champs but talented people and wait till Diego!efrain is great and bader both beat BJJ guys in ultimate fighter
What difference does it make that he is 24? Thiago Alves is 26. I suppose Alves must only be slightly better than KidLyrical then.
You see? I just knew you'd be a typical fool. I bet you talk to 15 year olds assuming they are as stupid as you were when you were their age. I can't believe you're 39. You are more than twice my age but you're still infinitely more moronic than I. Incredible.
I can only wonder how pathetic your response may be.
You don't even know me jackass, and unlike you I don't start insulting people I don't even know, unless they are being idiots first. Sort of like yourself That's the sign of a fucking coward. You must have been beaten by your old man or put down a lot by a drunken family memeber to say something like this. Trying to make yourself feel better for the pathetic life you live. To bad you don't live here, I'd love to see you back up those big words on the mat. Pussy.
Oh wait, it gets even better. You call me pathetic? You're THIRTY NINE, and you are traversing YouTube watching videos of people you don't even want to watch, but...I have no life? lol
Unlike me? No, I was insulting you because you are an idiot. Guess what? You corroborated that with further evidence with these last two comments. But please, continue. ;)
I have been training longer than you have been alive asshole. I looked at your favorited videos. Stick to tennis dude. You don't know shit about MA. And you were insulting me because your a little mouthpeice that lives safely 2000 miles away.
I have those tennis videos because I like the music on it. Hehe. Once again proving your ignorance.
Finally, get an education? It's you're, not your.
And yes, you probably have been training for more than 18 years. But guess what? You're nowhere. You've trained your whole life, but you're nowhere. I've only done about six or seven years in four martial arts, but does that mean you are necessarily better than me? No. You have trained for longer than Franklin, maybe. Are you better? Fuck no.
The surest sign you're getting owned is changing the subject. Attacking my grammar only proves you are losing this argument. BTW: Post the name of your club. I can look them up if they have a website and e-mail your instructor to see if he knows you. You'd be surprised how many little turds like you back out when I ask for their clubs information. So far, every single one.
And it's: "I have THOSE tennis videos because I like the music on THEM".......
lol, you were right about that last thing. At least it is the ONLY mistake I have made.
I incorporated a tangent into my comment - so what? That means I "lose"? There is no argument here. There is only the matter of giving you an education. Unfortunately, you're a slow learner.
I love these fallacious, cliched responses I get : "OMG U SAID SOMETHING WE HAD NOT MENTIONED BEFORE, THERE U LSE LULZ". You brought up my age. What relevance has that, really?
It's relevant because 99% of the time, it's little turds like yourself that talk shit on the internet, and insult people you don't know from 2000 miles away. I have rarely seen older people do that on youtube.
People are rarely over the age of THIRTY NINE and spending most of their day on YouTube, that's why.
How I am a little turd, no-one will ever know, but okay...
You're so aggressive, all these pathetic threats. How was I to know you were, as you say, 2000 miles away? Frankly, I don't give a shit. If you were Brock Lesnar, I would say the same. Difference is, he'd kick my ass. ;)
I spend time on youtube looking for BJJ instructional videos and weight training videos. And finding out where someone lives is only a click on their username away pal. And you don't even know how MUCH time I spend here, but by all means assume it's "most of my day". With every post you look like a bigger fool.
Knowledge and assumptions are two different things. I assume the sun will come up tomorrow. I do KNOW that shit is true, though. Do some advanced reading, mate. I bet you're one of those people who think theories and hypotheses are the same thing.
Also, you know that I live in the UK. You know what country I'm in? Even if you did, you're have to narrow it down to one person. If you knew where I trained...
Also since your talking how you do mma you should know styles make fights and how certain fighters can gain the advantage with there speed or striking which is another thing that bothers me about you, You say you train mma but you seem to know nothing about actual fighting and just pull up numbers. Know one cares about the rankings and why most fighters out of the us hate the ufc for brash comments like that. Lastly barnett got owned? He was the champ of the ufc and fought couture then kick out.
I'm putting up numbers because the previous guy I was arguing with wanted numbers..as for you I agree fight styles make fights..So I don't understand where you are pulling that from? Because that's all you have said..you've mentioned different camps but nothing about who's got a better fighting style? So you are just rambling on about fighting styles. All fights start standing up so any puncher has a chance in a fight. Fedor has won many fights but in my opinion no one on top since Pride..Sorry
My point is that hes better then everyone you named at everything. He has the size,skill,power and flexibility. Good hand speed and knows what he wants to do in a fight which makes him the best. Theres not a fighter you can say he couldnt beat. Also who does the ufc have? They have all old fighters that been in 2 many fights. Theres alwasy 2 sides to a story and you sit there on your computer talking about how hes a coward. All in all it is your opionion and it doesnt make any sense.
No offense but you sound like every other person that rides Fedor's jock strap.he's this and he's that.until he comes to the UFC I won't think much of him..there was no reason for him not to come.he's a great fighter,no doubt about that but he's taking the easy path instead of the challenging.and as for me sitting at my computer.I put my work in.I don't fight but I do train and I know what I'm talking about.opinions are great because everyone has one but I guess we just have to agree to disagree
Nah i just give credit were credits due. Fedors foguth everyone that was placed in front him and he should get more respect then the trash talking of people who just say the ufc is the best. The ufc has never had skurbura,melvin manhoef,situaro kitaoka,superfly,shinya aoki. Should i say bj penn is a coward for not going to fight the best fighters in the world at 155 which are in japan. SHould i say that lyota is weak for not winning any bb comps and then went mma cause he couldnt hack it .... no
who beat Rampage twice, but Rampage destroyed Chuck twice and then came back to destroy Wanderlei...the point there is that some people get better and better over the years..and others dwindle away...Matt Hughes can't compete like he did before because he's on the downslope of his career..while a GSP is still improving..Fedor hasn't been challenged and when you don't test yourself you get comfortable..and he is there right now..not challenged and comfortable being "number 1"..and that's cowardly
Matt hughers has alwasy been overrated and won most of his fights vs nobodys and gsp has the total package and has alwasy had that. Also the other side of fedor is that nobody challenges him so he fights and he wins and guess what he beaten everyone but mir and lesner. Couture barley beat bartlett before he got in good shape. One other thing is that he said he doesnt like the way the ufc treats people and that hes still undercontract.
I saw the article you were referring too.I saw a different one that has Randy listed as #2 in June of 08.the one you're talking about is July 08, I guess he dropped a spot without fighting.I will give you Arlovski was winning the fight until he got stupid.thing about Fedor is fighting is much different in a ring than in a cage.Sylvia and Arlovski were not resigned by UFC because they were down hill.even Arlovski with 5 wins.they were nobodies even Werdum was a weak fight..you like him I don't
What are you talking about? You want to talk about rankings about about this randy just lost to nog and guess what boith are past there primes and you want to compare guys to fedor that hes already beat? Lastly the ufc has a crappy hw division besides the fighters you named in carwin,lesner and nog. Affliction has randleman,barnett,slvia,arvloski who are all former ufc champs and if you cant take that away. The ufc best fighters came from pride and the ufc fighters have inflated records.
Let me use examples- 1the wec had the top ranked fighters in the world 1-4 and mike brown came over and has dominated the wec. He had lost in japan for numer 1 title shot and for the title. Also gurruero of wec is the number 1 135 fighter in the world and was never pushed in a fight untill when? When the wec brought over fightrs from japan and better fighters in there org. Also styles make fights. Sylvia vs nog rogan was talking up sylvia the entire fight then what happened they sec it hit the g
Ok I hate to pull the numbers on you but I will...Fedor vs Sylvia WAMMA Championship 7-19-08...Fedor ranked #1...Randy vs Brock UFC championship 11-15-08...At the time Fedor vs Sylvia, Randy was #2...I will give you Arlovski was #2 when they fought 1-24 this year but after back to back lossed to Sylvia then 5 wins against NOBODIES was Arlovski really #2??? Lousy KO punch to Fedor the loss to Josh Barnett..kinda weak to me..I train MMA...Arlovski was big when no one was there...so was Sylvia..
Another thing is lesner has the same amount of losses as fedor does and lesner has fought a crappy asian fighter and a old goat in courture. The ufc prides itself on having the best so lets see it. Go get arvloski and sylvia back and lets see how they do vs better comp so you say. Lets get melvin manhoef,shinya aoki,kitaoki,hirota. I mean come on the rankings are paid off. I mean the shooto champ is 26-2 but no one knows his name. Nothing you say has any credit behind it.
Are you serious??? You have no clue about MMA do you??? Machida is the #1 LHW...Fedor maybe listed as the #1 HW but he hasn't fought anyone credible since Pride...Tim Sylvia and Arlovski??? Come on..they suck...
Testify my brother. I was once a Fedor fan but I think he loses credibility not coming to the UFC. Credibility as a martial artist atleast. Of course your getting your head beat on for money but a true warrior cares about respect too and challenging yourself.
He's already rich, I have to believe more than anything Fedor didnt want to come to the UFC for fear of losing right now.
That's exactly why he didn't come...Because right now he can say he's the best...if he comes to fight Brock, Randy, Frank, Shane, etc it's not that easy to say that...I mean guaranteed title shot and 60 million over 5 years...you can't beat it...you're "the best" prove it against today's fighters...Fedor was the best in Pride...NEVER best in the world...you have to fight the world to be the best in the world...doesn't matter though, Brett Rogers is going to beat him..mark my words...
maybe the UFC can lower the ticket prices or show the whole fight card on PPV. The fams follow the sport enough to get some shit... a regular guy like me probably wont even get to go to a UFC event cause of how expensive the seats are...
It was amazing great fight and im a Couture fan it was basically Nog dominating and Randy getting nice shots that were doing nothing it was soo loud the Randy chants!Badass card Thiago was sharp and Marquart's Ko was perfect.
All it takes is for Randy to take one nasty shot to the head and he will be a zombie. He should hang it up and stick to commentating which he is actually very good at.
That fight last night with Couture and Nog was a classic, those two went head to head and banged it out. It was a GREAT fight and both guys look really good. Randy being 46 years old and still in shape, fighting top guys in the UFC...he's a warrior and true champ! This was a fight talked about for years and it finally happened, lived up to the hype and showed why it was talked about for years. Great fight! Couture needs to be in the Octagon...it's home!
signboyy - Are you an idiot or what?? The "liberal Portland newspaper" is the reason UFC 102 didn't sell out?? That is one of the stupidest thing i've ever heard of. You think a "conservative" newspaper would promote the UFC?? The reason the card didn't sell out is very simple you moron. The card isn't that good. And considering all the bigtime fighters that have come out of Oregon i am very disappointed in Oregonians that they didn't come out in bigger #s.
That was prior, in a time when the UFC had minimum rules, and to an extent, it was a barbaric sport indeed. However, McCain himself now approves of the sport, claiming that the sport has grown up, with its rules and whatnot.
well I really want to watch this entire event...Nog, The Natural, Jardine, Silva, Nate, Maia and for those who say this card is garbage should just go out and play in the rain...all you haters should stick to the NFL or MLB if all you want to see is your favorite superstars...Mixed Martial Arts is fundamentally a sport of many diverse and deserving athletes, NOT a boiling pot of over paid dog killers...
People don't want to see Nogueira and Couture fight because they're both heroes. Also they both lost their last fight. :-P Maybe the ufc should have put another fight as their main event.
They have to. He's pissing on us and telling us it's raining. The UFC is still a growing sport, so they need to spark the public's interest and get them to watch, "I say it all the time...we haven't even scratched the surface of what this things gonna be."
That's why Dana can constantly say that as long as he's around, ticket prices won't go up because it's a recession and the sport won't have a big enough growth spurt while he's around to charge what boxing does. Sport grows = prices UP... USA
The mainstream is so far behind the times. They need to change with the times. Yahoo does a great job of delivering the news plus lots of MMA coverage.
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getrymalika 1 year ago
stop making events with 47 year old cotoure as you main event, bitch
FabulousZero 1 year ago
This is the tip of the ice berg Dana white is a parasite .The Ferttati brothers would do well if they dropped his ass and get someone else.
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Jonnytboi 2 years ago
B/c boxing has a rich history Dana u moron! Fuck how much money u pull in, half the time the cards are all hype with little substance. The beefs are manufactored and most of the fighters get into the octogon and aren't rounded fighters.
UFC is going the route of wrestling turning it into a soap opera.
In UFC u can beat one guy in ur weight class and u already are in contention for the belt. Most weight classes lack depth so it doesn't take much to be next in line for a title shot.
TheyFeedingULies 2 years ago
I always sit down to each UFC excited, but when it's over I feel let down, but like a true junkie I anticipate the next hit and know after I get it it'll be like the last. Honestly, I would just watch UFC just for Logan Stanton, but now even she's gone so fucking no point watching it anymore (lol).
TheyFeedingULies 2 years ago
what boxing do??????? Boxing only had 3 ppvs this year and UFC is gonna have 13 so who's screwing who????? dana?
juanca84perales 2 years ago
...you would be able to deduce the area in which I live. There are a fuckload of psychos in the world - you think I want them knowing that?
Mate, think before you do things, yeah? Just a thought.
HoneyIEducatedTheWeb 2 years ago
That's pretty well thought out excuse. Props to you for finding a convenient way out of this......and my use of the word "assume" is sound. It's you who needs an education.
SCROGY 2 years ago
Nothing makes you look like a bigger douche than correcting someones grammar and then making a big mistake in the same post. Next time, ignore the spelling errors and absorb the meaning of the comment.
SCROGY 2 years ago
I don't want to see him on TUF or the pay per views. I tune into TUF and the UFC to see fights and the fighters, not Dana White talking shit. Youtube is another story. I can CHOOSE to watch him on here or not. It only confirms that I am right about him. He's crying about not being covered. Maybe he needs to really consider why. The media controls everything and if he wants more coverage, then he should consider the fact that it just might be his attitude.
SCROGY 2 years ago
Surely your EDUCATION is more indicative than your age. You get me a ninety year old from some tribe in some non-descript place. Do you think he'd NECESSARILY be more intelligent than me? Doubt it.;)
Look at your Bill O'Reilly tactics. I tell you what, you give me the details of, say, two of the places you go to. I'll check out the legitimacy. I give you two back.
Don't bark if you can't bite. Prove yourself before challenging me.;)
HoneyIEducatedTheWeb 2 years ago
I am pretty sure I asked you first .......
SCROGY 2 years ago
LOL. You're right, I am childish. "I asked you first". You're so ridiculous.
I will now show you how stupid your logic is.
I challenge you to do forty million press-ups. If you cannot do this, I win the argument.
Firstly, I have nothing to prove to you. You seem to want to compare achievements. Sad, but alright. But do you think I want to post information that is that personal? I'm not that stupid. Now, if you were to reciprocate, I'd feel obliged to do the same.
HoneyIEducatedTheWeb 2 years ago
Dana, maybe the reason the media won't cover your sport is because you're a classless douchebag. You don't turn womens golf on and hear a string of **** talk and profanity from the LPGA president. The media will never cover your sport until they think the people working for you are good role models. Hearing BJ Penn say he will "kill GSP" or hearing Brocks little rant or most TUF competitors profanity laced speeches is not what the media want's to deal with. That's the truth.
SCROGY 2 years ago
Dude, Dana has balls. No other professional sports commissioner or president tells it like it is like Dana. All the other guys are bitches. The reason why the UFC doesn't mainstream acceptance is because they still think its street brawling. kimbo on tuf isn't helping either.
XkerryXhartX 2 years ago
And Dana's behavior doesn't help.
SCROGY 2 years ago
You're right. I'd rather hear people from other sports give me really boring interviews, telling us that everyone is equal.
You're a fucking idiot. People like you just epitomise the pathetic state this world is in. I now await your incredibly retarded response.
HoneyIEducatedTheWeb 2 years ago
Listen you limey chickenshit. You're a real tough guy insulting me from 2000 miles away. But you're 18, what should I expect? What do fucking interviews even matter jackass? I don't want to hear any of these sports comissioners talk. I want to watch fights, not listen to a douche like Dana talk. I have no desire to see his face on TV. He's a pencil pusher. He should sign the cheques and shut up. Nothing more. The fighters are the stars, not him. Talk to me when you grow up asshole.
SCROGY 2 years ago
Well that was totally unpredictable. I had not for one moment foreseen that you would come up with that age old adage, "You're x years of age, therefore you know nothing". Hilarious. Does the fact that I am younger make me NECESSARILY physically and/or mentally inferior to you? No, of course not. No intellectual person would contest that. I wonder if you can pick out the keyword. Secondly, if you don't want to watch Dana, why the fuck are you doing so? You contradict yourself. Ciao.
HoneyIEducatedTheWeb 2 years ago
Pretty much yeah. You're no different than any other 18 year old turd that thinks he fucking knows everything. How many years of MA training do you have asshat? The fact that you insulted someone you don't even know tells me everything I need to know about you. You're a little POS pussy douchbag, internet shit talker. And I am watching this because a friend sent it to me because he knows I hate Dana. I wanted to see if he's still being an douche. He is.
SCROGY 2 years ago
Hey, so you're contradicting your previous point, with your last sentence.
Anyway, point out where I claimed I "know it all" and when did I actually mention anything that specifically required ANY MMA (or MA according to some) knowledge whatsoever?
lol. Pussy douchebag internet shit talker? What is this? Power Rangers?
HoneyIEducatedTheWeb 2 years ago
Brock beat a nobody, then he lost to Mir, then beat a washed up Herring, then a 45 year old, then beat Mir. Brock does have power and potential, but he needs to work on several areas of his game before he can be said to be better than Overeem. Overeem would beat Lesnar right now. Bet on it.
SCROGY 2 years ago
Keep bringing stupid ass fighters like Brock Leasnar and your UFC shit will soon dissapear
un300zx 2 years ago
Not going to raise prices on PPV??? How much more than 44.95 can you charge?! It is not like UFC is offering a bargain.
mpapile 2 years ago
There is no Fedor's pick.........
And the problem with the point about Fedor ducking people is that if he loses, he clearly wasn't ducking anyone.
SCROGY 2 years ago
My last comment is that the ufc just like verything else hit its peak. Ufc was so popular cause most americans never say full contact fighting or even knew anything out of boxing. Honsetly dream,shooto and the sanshou circuts have better fighters. So it still good entertainment but it cant keep growing like everyone was looking for.
Kdaddy61987 2 years ago
WoW.you went off on a tangent for nothing didn't you big boy.Sylvia just got KO'd in what 5 secs by a boxer in an MMA fight.R U Serious? Arlovski was owned by B. Rogers. J Barnett already been in UFC and got owned..keep it real when talking man..I train MMA, do you? It's a little different when you do it then just watch it on TV..you probably hate it when they go to the ground or clinch against the cage because you don't understand it..LOL..Fedor is a dodger..but B Rogers will beat him..
HawksSkater06 2 years ago
I took ninjsui and freestyle shaolin kung fu and i practicing the ground game before the ufc got popular. Also the clinch is highly overrated. My firends have entered bb karate tournaments san shou tournments and i use to play basketball with the hawiian heavy weight champ so dont talk about yourself to make a point. One more thing didnt i already talk about how rankings mean nothing? Look at the wec had the top 4 145lb fighters and they all lost to mike brown who couldnt win it in japan.
Kdaddy61987 2 years ago
but Fedor would rather hold on to his ranking than challenge himself. But like I said before Brett Rogers is going to beat him. Then all of this Fedor blah blah blah crap will be over. You can't call yourself the best if you haven't fought the best. I'm not saying Brock is the best by no means but he would pose a huge challenge for Fedor and anyone just because of his size alone. Mir would pose a threat to him. Randy would. It doesn't matter who has fought who in the past. Chuck beat Wanderlei
HawksSkater06 2 years ago
Whoa get something straight chuck won the fight he didnt beat him. Wand knocked liddel down and chuck rocked wand once and then ran when he realized he couldnt finish him thats different from beaten him, thats like in rocky when apollo says i won the fight but i didnt beat hjm, know the difference. Also anyone put up against a champion in any org should be able to challenge the champ so saying mir,couruture is like saying nothing cause your there to win.
Kdaddy61987 2 years ago
You say this Fedor stuff will be over when Bret beats him? Really? After being undefeated in 31 fights? Wow.....Then you say he's ducking Randy? A guy who is 16-9? When did all the Randy blah blah crap end after he lost?........And Overeem is a far greater threat than a guy with 5 fights.......Overeem is more well rounded and is now just as big as Brock. How is THAT running from a challenge?
SCROGY 2 years ago
Look just go to msn. foxsports. com and go over to the MMA tab then click on Fedor's pick, 4th down and read what it says...proves my point...I'm done talking about this coward...
HawksSkater06 2 years ago
overheem is garbabge hes good kickboxer and for k1 but mma hell no and lightweight maybe but heavyweight hell no. Nobody is talking about randy and fedor anymore they want him to fight brock end of story.
EPTKidLyrical 2 years ago
He's garbage? He has K1 level striking, decent wrestling and a solid ground game. Brock has good wrestling, CRAP standup and CRAP BJJ. They are the same size now, so Overeem is clearly the more well rounded fighter, and a bigger threat.
SCROGY 2 years ago
no your wrong he has Great wretling and thats enough. Wrestler run the sport now. Not all of them champions but alot on the top rankings and i have to say since gsp learned how to wrestler with the canadian oplympians he seems unbeatable right now. Brock wins this fight tko 2nd round if not first. I do give the stamina factor to fedor and the experience of course. Hes more well rounded yes but wont beat brock. Everynody brock has beat is more well rounded them him. He just takes down GNP over
EPTKidLyrical 2 years ago
I looked at your profile and you are a 24 year old . What MA experience do you have to make these claims? In case you didn't notice 3 of the UFC champs are not wrestlers: Silva, Machida and Penn. ALL BJJ Black belts/strikers with limited wrestling skills. GSP is the WW champ because he is good at EVERYTHING including BJJ and striking, and he was a good wreslter long before he reached the UFC. He won his UCC belt from one of my instructors.
SCROGY 2 years ago
yeah im 24 but wrestled since i was 5 and currenlty working on BJJ. Im also been boxing for 5 years and im hoping to get into the wec when the 125 pound wegght class comes around and im currently 1-0 mma and 10-3 in boxing. I just started mma but been a huge fan and yes i agree that BJJ is great also but ive seen it over and over the wreslters walk into mma and do great. Not all champs but talented people and wait till Diego!efrain is great and bader both beat BJJ guys in ultimate fighter
EPTKidLyrical 2 years ago
What difference does it make that he is 24? Thiago Alves is 26. I suppose Alves must only be slightly better than KidLyrical then.
You see? I just knew you'd be a typical fool. I bet you talk to 15 year olds assuming they are as stupid as you were when you were their age. I can't believe you're 39. You are more than twice my age but you're still infinitely more moronic than I. Incredible.
I can only wonder how pathetic your response may be.
HoneyIEducatedTheWeb 2 years ago
You don't even know me jackass, and unlike you I don't start insulting people I don't even know, unless they are being idiots first. Sort of like yourself That's the sign of a fucking coward. You must have been beaten by your old man or put down a lot by a drunken family memeber to say something like this. Trying to make yourself feel better for the pathetic life you live. To bad you don't live here, I'd love to see you back up those big words on the mat. Pussy.
SCROGY 2 years ago
Oh wait, it gets even better. You call me pathetic? You're THIRTY NINE, and you are traversing YouTube watching videos of people you don't even want to watch, but...I have no life? lol
Unlike me? No, I was insulting you because you are an idiot. Guess what? You corroborated that with further evidence with these last two comments. But please, continue. ;)
HoneyIEducatedTheWeb 2 years ago
I have been training longer than you have been alive asshole. I looked at your favorited videos. Stick to tennis dude. You don't know shit about MA. And you were insulting me because your a little mouthpeice that lives safely 2000 miles away.
SCROGY 2 years ago
I have those tennis videos because I like the music on it. Hehe. Once again proving your ignorance.
Finally, get an education? It's you're, not your.
And yes, you probably have been training for more than 18 years. But guess what? You're nowhere. You've trained your whole life, but you're nowhere. I've only done about six or seven years in four martial arts, but does that mean you are necessarily better than me? No. You have trained for longer than Franklin, maybe. Are you better? Fuck no.
HoneyIEducatedTheWeb 2 years ago
The surest sign you're getting owned is changing the subject. Attacking my grammar only proves you are losing this argument. BTW: Post the name of your club. I can look them up if they have a website and e-mail your instructor to see if he knows you. You'd be surprised how many little turds like you back out when I ask for their clubs information. So far, every single one.
And it's: "I have THOSE tennis videos because I like the music on THEM".......
SCROGY 2 years ago
lol, you were right about that last thing. At least it is the ONLY mistake I have made.
I incorporated a tangent into my comment - so what? That means I "lose"? There is no argument here. There is only the matter of giving you an education. Unfortunately, you're a slow learner.
I love these fallacious, cliched responses I get : "OMG U SAID SOMETHING WE HAD NOT MENTIONED BEFORE, THERE U LSE LULZ". You brought up my age. What relevance has that, really?
HoneyIEducatedTheWeb 2 years ago
It's relevant because 99% of the time, it's little turds like yourself that talk shit on the internet, and insult people you don't know from 2000 miles away. I have rarely seen older people do that on youtube.
SCROGY 2 years ago
People are rarely over the age of THIRTY NINE and spending most of their day on YouTube, that's why.
How I am a little turd, no-one will ever know, but okay...
You're so aggressive, all these pathetic threats. How was I to know you were, as you say, 2000 miles away? Frankly, I don't give a shit. If you were Brock Lesnar, I would say the same. Difference is, he'd kick my ass. ;)
HoneyIEducatedTheWeb 2 years ago
I spend time on youtube looking for BJJ instructional videos and weight training videos. And finding out where someone lives is only a click on their username away pal. And you don't even know how MUCH time I spend here, but by all means assume it's "most of my day". With every post you look like a bigger fool.
SCROGY 2 years ago
Knowledge and assumptions are two different things. I assume the sun will come up tomorrow. I do KNOW that shit is true, though. Do some advanced reading, mate. I bet you're one of those people who think theories and hypotheses are the same thing.
Also, you know that I live in the UK. You know what country I'm in? Even if you did, you're have to narrow it down to one person. If you knew where I trained...
HoneyIEducatedTheWeb 2 years ago
Also since your talking how you do mma you should know styles make fights and how certain fighters can gain the advantage with there speed or striking which is another thing that bothers me about you, You say you train mma but you seem to know nothing about actual fighting and just pull up numbers. Know one cares about the rankings and why most fighters out of the us hate the ufc for brash comments like that. Lastly barnett got owned? He was the champ of the ufc and fought couture then kick out.
Kdaddy61987 2 years ago
I'm putting up numbers because the previous guy I was arguing with wanted numbers..as for you I agree fight styles make fights..So I don't understand where you are pulling that from? Because that's all you have said..you've mentioned different camps but nothing about who's got a better fighting style? So you are just rambling on about fighting styles. All fights start standing up so any puncher has a chance in a fight. Fedor has won many fights but in my opinion no one on top since Pride..Sorry
HawksSkater06 2 years ago
My point is that hes better then everyone you named at everything. He has the size,skill,power and flexibility. Good hand speed and knows what he wants to do in a fight which makes him the best. Theres not a fighter you can say he couldnt beat. Also who does the ufc have? They have all old fighters that been in 2 many fights. Theres alwasy 2 sides to a story and you sit there on your computer talking about how hes a coward. All in all it is your opionion and it doesnt make any sense.
Kdaddy61987 2 years ago
No offense but you sound like every other person that rides Fedor's jock strap.he's this and he's that.until he comes to the UFC I won't think much of him..there was no reason for him not to come.he's a great fighter,no doubt about that but he's taking the easy path instead of the challenging.and as for me sitting at my computer.I put my work in.I don't fight but I do train and I know what I'm talking about.opinions are great because everyone has one but I guess we just have to agree to disagree
HawksSkater06 2 years ago
Nah i just give credit were credits due. Fedors foguth everyone that was placed in front him and he should get more respect then the trash talking of people who just say the ufc is the best. The ufc has never had skurbura,melvin manhoef,situaro kitaoka,superfly,shinya aoki. Should i say bj penn is a coward for not going to fight the best fighters in the world at 155 which are in japan. SHould i say that lyota is weak for not winning any bb comps and then went mma cause he couldnt hack it .... no
Kdaddy61987 2 years ago
who beat Rampage twice, but Rampage destroyed Chuck twice and then came back to destroy Wanderlei...the point there is that some people get better and better over the years..and others dwindle away...Matt Hughes can't compete like he did before because he's on the downslope of his career..while a GSP is still improving..Fedor hasn't been challenged and when you don't test yourself you get comfortable..and he is there right now..not challenged and comfortable being "number 1"..and that's cowardly
HawksSkater06 2 years ago
Matt hughers has alwasy been overrated and won most of his fights vs nobodys and gsp has the total package and has alwasy had that. Also the other side of fedor is that nobody challenges him so he fights and he wins and guess what he beaten everyone but mir and lesner. Couture barley beat bartlett before he got in good shape. One other thing is that he said he doesnt like the way the ufc treats people and that hes still undercontract.
Kdaddy61987 2 years ago
Coming to a organization that gives a 2-2 fighter a title shot? I mean the guy dont even have nog or fedor MMA resume.
Pezzang 2 years ago
I saw the article you were referring too.I saw a different one that has Randy listed as #2 in June of 08.the one you're talking about is July 08, I guess he dropped a spot without fighting.I will give you Arlovski was winning the fight until he got stupid.thing about Fedor is fighting is much different in a ring than in a cage.Sylvia and Arlovski were not resigned by UFC because they were down hill.even Arlovski with 5 wins.they were nobodies even Werdum was a weak fight..you like him I don't
HawksSkater06 2 years ago
What are you talking about? You want to talk about rankings about about this randy just lost to nog and guess what boith are past there primes and you want to compare guys to fedor that hes already beat? Lastly the ufc has a crappy hw division besides the fighters you named in carwin,lesner and nog. Affliction has randleman,barnett,slvia,arvloski who are all former ufc champs and if you cant take that away. The ufc best fighters came from pride and the ufc fighters have inflated records.
Kdaddy61987 2 years ago
Let me use examples- 1the wec had the top ranked fighters in the world 1-4 and mike brown came over and has dominated the wec. He had lost in japan for numer 1 title shot and for the title. Also gurruero of wec is the number 1 135 fighter in the world and was never pushed in a fight untill when? When the wec brought over fightrs from japan and better fighters in there org. Also styles make fights. Sylvia vs nog rogan was talking up sylvia the entire fight then what happened they sec it hit the g
Kdaddy61987 2 years ago
Ok I hate to pull the numbers on you but I will...Fedor vs Sylvia WAMMA Championship 7-19-08...Fedor ranked #1...Randy vs Brock UFC championship 11-15-08...At the time Fedor vs Sylvia, Randy was #2...I will give you Arlovski was #2 when they fought 1-24 this year but after back to back lossed to Sylvia then 5 wins against NOBODIES was Arlovski really #2??? Lousy KO punch to Fedor the loss to Josh Barnett..kinda weak to me..I train MMA...Arlovski was big when no one was there...so was Sylvia..
HawksSkater06 2 years ago
Another thing is lesner has the same amount of losses as fedor does and lesner has fought a crappy asian fighter and a old goat in courture. The ufc prides itself on having the best so lets see it. Go get arvloski and sylvia back and lets see how they do vs better comp so you say. Lets get melvin manhoef,shinya aoki,kitaoki,hirota. I mean come on the rankings are paid off. I mean the shooto champ is 26-2 but no one knows his name. Nothing you say has any credit behind it.
Kdaddy61987 2 years ago
All I have to do is name 1 in 2008 and that's Randy Couture..but I'll add 3 more...Frank Mir, Brock Lesnar, Shane Carwin...
HawksSkater06 2 years ago
Are you serious??? You have no clue about MMA do you??? Machida is the #1 LHW...Fedor maybe listed as the #1 HW but he hasn't fought anyone credible since Pride...Tim Sylvia and Arlovski??? Come on..they suck...
HawksSkater06 2 years ago
Testify my brother. I was once a Fedor fan but I think he loses credibility not coming to the UFC. Credibility as a martial artist atleast. Of course your getting your head beat on for money but a true warrior cares about respect too and challenging yourself.
He's already rich, I have to believe more than anything Fedor didnt want to come to the UFC for fear of losing right now.
tommybrown2068 2 years ago
That's exactly why he didn't come...Because right now he can say he's the best...if he comes to fight Brock, Randy, Frank, Shane, etc it's not that easy to say that...I mean guaranteed title shot and 60 million over 5 years...you can't beat it...you're "the best" prove it against today's fighters...Fedor was the best in Pride...NEVER best in the world...you have to fight the world to be the best in the world...doesn't matter though, Brett Rogers is going to beat him..mark my words...
HawksSkater06 2 years ago
That's why he won't come and fight the best fighters...he goes to Strikeforce...but it's all good because Brett Rogers is going to stop Fedor
HawksSkater06 2 years ago
tito's shit talking might help alot. but fedor will help more
mr3ggroll 2 years ago
maybe the UFC can lower the ticket prices or show the whole fight card on PPV. The fams follow the sport enough to get some shit... a regular guy like me probably wont even get to go to a UFC event cause of how expensive the seats are...
ropermusic 2 years ago
I was not interested in this UFC event at all!
BentHenny 2 years ago
WOW ,what a main event two old losers wrestling, and people actually paid to see that shit ,dana sucks
roofmannc 2 years ago
They were big MMA names, but I see your point.
BentHenny 2 years ago
It was amazing great fight and im a Couture fan it was basically Nog dominating and Randy getting nice shots that were doing nothing it was soo loud the Randy chants!Badass card Thiago was sharp and Marquart's Ko was perfect.
remstyle 2 years ago
if i wanted to watch a bunch of c and b level fighters for cheap id go to the fairgrounds. you are an idiot.
666ThaScarecro666 2 years ago
youre a dumbfuck.
Stick to your strikefarce.
Ur vagina will prlly get wet at fedor vs brett fucking rogers.
666ThaScarecro666 2 years ago
Hell yeah!!! Hella funny, strikeforce will go under in a few years.
ropermusic 2 years ago
BIG NOG!
sidarandhozan 2 years ago
All it takes is for Randy to take one nasty shot to the head and he will be a zombie. He should hang it up and stick to commentating which he is actually very good at.
HiddenBlackHistory 2 years ago
cypher995 is an idiot
what do u know abut shit
randy is one tough mother fucker
the point was to finally put the question to bed
who is better nog or randy and we got our answer
lets see u do a better job then dana put on shows
fucking mouth peice
animalmother519 2 years ago
...In a Nursing Home...?!? Really dude!?
That fight last night with Couture and Nog was a classic, those two went head to head and banged it out. It was a GREAT fight and both guys look really good. Randy being 46 years old and still in shape, fighting top guys in the UFC...he's a warrior and true champ! This was a fight talked about for years and it finally happened, lived up to the hype and showed why it was talked about for years. Great fight! Couture needs to be in the Octagon...it's home!
criley84 2 years ago
fuck yea vancouver!!!!!!
xpand86 2 years ago
signboyy - Are you an idiot or what?? The "liberal Portland newspaper" is the reason UFC 102 didn't sell out?? That is one of the stupidest thing i've ever heard of. You think a "conservative" newspaper would promote the UFC?? The reason the card didn't sell out is very simple you moron. The card isn't that good. And considering all the bigtime fighters that have come out of Oregon i am very disappointed in Oregonians that they didn't come out in bigger #s.
tl20779 2 years ago
yes i think the lack of a title fight might have hurt ticket sales.
but the oregonian definately did not promote. i can only assume it is the liberal politics of the newspaper which influenced this.
dont get me wrong i am a hardcore liberal except for a few issues such as mma.
actually many of the fighters on the card orginated in portland.
dont be so niave about newspapers and political agendas.
signboyy 2 years ago
3 reasons there was no sell out.
1. portland has the highest unemployment in the nation
2. the liberal portland newspaper wont promote the fight because they are very liberal
3. there are no title fights on the card.
signboyy 2 years ago
Dont conservatives hate MMA? John McCain wanted to make it illegal. He called it a "Bloody barbaric sport"
ImSorryMrsJackson 2 years ago
mccain is the anomoly.
most conservatives love war and mma.
love of mma is the only thing i have in common with republican religious retards
signboyy 2 years ago
That was prior, in a time when the UFC had minimum rules, and to an extent, it was a barbaric sport indeed. However, McCain himself now approves of the sport, claiming that the sport has grown up, with its rules and whatnot.
kara366 2 years ago
the portland newspaper is the oregonian which is extremely liberal.
so my guess is that is the reason it hasnt promoted the fight, and thus no sell out.
signboyy 2 years ago
portland has the highest unemployment in the nation.
also there are no title fights.
these two factors result in no sold out.
signboyy 2 years ago
seriously dana white gets pretty boring after awhile.
eastendlukey 2 years ago
well I really want to watch this entire event...Nog, The Natural, Jardine, Silva, Nate, Maia and for those who say this card is garbage should just go out and play in the rain...all you haters should stick to the NFL or MLB if all you want to see is your favorite superstars...Mixed Martial Arts is fundamentally a sport of many diverse and deserving athletes, NOT a boiling pot of over paid dog killers...
MaladaptiveCatalyst 2 years ago
he didnt raise ppv prices OK last year Ufc ppvs were $40 now there $45
garage233 2 years ago
only 25$ here in NZ (16.91 USD)
binarybojangles 2 years ago
i want to see anderson silva vs gsp
thephilmyster 2 years ago
Get a better card. Get better sales.
Steadno 2 years ago
the main event i diden want to see
Lesnar Gets sell outs
even that chuck liddell is 40 and lost a few fights in a row
he can get sell outs easily
id love to watch chuck fight win/loss/draw
CardiffCasual101 2 years ago
People don't want to see Nogueira and Couture fight because they're both heroes. Also they both lost their last fight. :-P Maybe the ufc should have put another fight as their main event.
region1111 2 years ago
Inside MMA does a very good job of covering mma. I wish the UFC would give them more access.
I would be happy to never have to watch ESPN.
simthedude 2 years ago 3
Fuck Vancouver! Come to Toronto! lol
iP0PE 2 years ago 2
I hope they keep their word and it stays the same price.
8yeah8 2 years ago 2
how mouch is there for a decent ticket?
aspenaspen 2 years ago
i payed 300 and its a decent ticket.
666ThaScarecro666 2 years ago
They have to. He's pissing on us and telling us it's raining. The UFC is still a growing sport, so they need to spark the public's interest and get them to watch, "I say it all the time...we haven't even scratched the surface of what this things gonna be."
That's why Dana can constantly say that as long as he's around, ticket prices won't go up because it's a recession and the sport won't have a big enough growth spurt while he's around to charge what boxing does. Sport grows = prices UP... USA
ABear18 2 years ago
thats the difference now between brock lesnar & randy coutour or any other fighter , lesnar sells tickets love it or hate it .
kalamantas3 2 years ago
I love how the UFC hasn't raised it's ticket prices and PPV prices like fake wrestling and boxing has.
TriMOTinHD 2 years ago 3
The mainstream is so far behind the times. They need to change with the times. Yahoo does a great job of delivering the news plus lots of MMA coverage.
poolboyinla 2 years ago 4