The Buddha was not born of a virgin. This is a huge misconception. Clearly the story of Siddartha's life lists his father, King Suddhodana, of the Sakya Tribe.
there's no comparison because buddha rides a golden chariot not a mule, he was a Prince not a slave, a teacher of Gods and mankind not a Phrophet or messenger and attain awakening and enligtenment by his own effort - not from aynone.
Buddha wasn't born of a virgin birth. he fasted longer than forty days. he ate a single grain of rice a day for 7 yrs. What miracles did he perform? He didn't heal the sick. Never walked on water. didn't feed people. "transfigured" or became enlightened under a fig tree. DID NOT RESURRECT!!! EVER! didn't go beyond his palace walls until 18+. Never baptized. What Trinity? his last supper was tainted pork, w/o "disciples". didn't raise dead. didn't promise to return. 90% wrong. learn to research!
@alienbeing00 the virgin birth is debateable(it could go either way)actually buddhist scripture states Lord Buddha walked on water,walked thru walls and mountains,flew to the moon and sun(MAJJHIMA NIKAYA the greater discourse of the lion verse 6) & touched the whole universe with his big toe,actually he did heal the sick along with his deciples,his lower disciples actually resurected,also the Buddha is eternal and never left this earth(lotus sutra chap 16)(baptized in the 3 pureland sutra)
@alienbeing00 (CONT)sir why did u say this is 90% wrong and to do research??i can show u with scripture that Buddha walked on water(JUST DID)along with all those miricles,his lower disciple who wasnt even the Buddha RESURRECTED=MAJJHIMA NIKAYA sutta 50"the rebuke of mara" verse 10-11 they set him on fire and he showed up the next day:)MN sutta 86 verse 15,heals a mother and her infant,Buddha nevr left he is always with us and walks among us LOTUS SUTRA chapt 16,here is ur research sir:)
@alienbeing00 I saw this thing on T.V. where buddha had to battle with some demon from the underworld. He caused the earth to shake. he caused stars to fall from the sky. He battled a whole army of demons. He was enticed by earthly sensualities. I'm talking about the buddha. He apparently had some supernatural powers. It was on Public Broadcasting. A good piece on Buddhism. Anyway, Jesus and Buddha are two good friends of mine.
@rockdnation well Buddha did say he was the teacher of all gods so that would include him being the teacher of the son of god and his god,and he was the teacher of humans and ALL living beings,and the Buddha was the unequaled and un compareible the Lord,and the Highest being in the universe,so one could rightly say he was the supreme being aslo known by many as god,also did u know the Buddha walked on water?and did many miricales
@Tanatbenbenpoppop Buddhism isnt atheist Buddhism has many gods so yes Buddhists and Buddha did beleive their was gods,the Lord Buddha said he the teacher of all gods and living beings,the highest being,some people call this highest being god,all this is,is a word game=the unequaled supreme one(god/Buddha/higher power/supreme one)all titles for the divine one mind.peace and love
@Tanatbenbenpoppop Buddhism isnt atheist Buddhism has many gods so yes Buddhists and Buddha did beleive their was gods,the Lord Buddha said he the teacher of all gods and living beings,the highest being,some people call this highest being god,all this is,is a word game=the unequaled supreme one(god/Buddha/higher power/supreme one)all titles for the divine one mind.peace and love,also Buddhism is monotheist,all Buddhas are one mind many bodies,SAME mind SAME enlightenment:)
@Buddhist1986 In fact buddha he is not god he is human being and he enlightment nirvana that he know everything ,only human can reach nirvana not god ,and people know god in buddhism after he die. reply me if disagree
@Tanatbenbenpoppop reaserch my freind the Lord buddha was the highest GOD 33 times,gods in Buddhism are lower beings and the Lord Buddha is their teacher of master which ALL gods and living beings worship=Buddhist scripture,yes being in enlightenment he is all knowing,shakyamuni was a human the Buddha isnt a human but a state of PURE mind,also gods can reach enlightenment look up PURE ABODES=thervadan,PURELAND=mahayana,when one goes to the pure abode he is a god and non retrogresses till nirvana
@Buddhist1986 You answer me same answer I reply you same answer He is not god he is 100% human
not like another religion,Buddhist is very strange religion in western because "original" buddhist have no any god.so what nation you are?are you buddism?what type of buddhism you are?
@Tanatbenbenpoppop i never said the buddha was god i said he is the teacher of all gods,which is the highest being,the buddha isnt a human but a state of mind,the flesh itself is not important.u can read my profile for all that information.i think we are on the same page,i think we just have a misunderstanding.i beleive the Lord Buddha is the highest being in the universe higher than all gods,gods are lower beings,the buddha is the DIVINE one who performed many miricles such as agumala ECT.
@Tanatbenbenpoppop (CONT)ur 100% correct we are having a cultural misunderstanding u see where i come from when a person says Buddha was a just a human what he is saying is the Lord Buddha was no better than me and u,he wasnt the highest being but just a mere person,the nirvana he discovered was just a happy state of mind nothing more,and all buddhists are atheist and their is no afterlife,and their is no supernaturality in buddhism
@Buddhist1986 you right,but buddhism have supernaturality. it appear everywhere on way to enlightenment nirvana. you can see your or other people in any past live you can see everything in mind.
@Tanatbenbenpoppop yes Buddhism has supernaturality,try telling that to other buddhists in america,the reason we had a misunderstanding is i thought u were trying saying the Lord Buddha was just plaiun human like u or me nothing special,(like most buddhist in america think)here he has ZERO divinity no supernatural,no after life he isnt the higher being to worship,here he just a plain human nothing speacial just human hence our misunderstanding,
@Tanatbenbenpoppop just check out a western buddhist website to see how much they have perverted his teachings to make him seem undivine or just a plain person with a good message.if u say u worship the Lord Buddha or the Buddha walked on water or did miracles=AGULIMALA then here u are unbuddhist,talk to enough westerners u will see what i mean,Buddhism here is an atheist nhilist pyhlosophy with Buddha as the higher being DOWNGRADED to mere human like us its sad.
@Tanatbenbenpoppop (CONT)in thailand u worship the Lord Buddha as the highest being,in america buddhist ignore the suttas and say the Lord Buddha was Just a plain human like us who taught a good message.when u say the Lord Buddha wasnt a god u mean gods are lower beings who are unenlightened i see what u mean,sadly Buddhism in america took the extreme view of NHILISM and zero supernatual,the buddha here is downgraded to be a "normal person"with a happy mind=nirvana hence the misunderstanding
Did you know Jesus NEVER fulfilled anything because the OT was mistranslated on purpose? Your OT is a really BAD version of the Jewish Tanakh. And there is nothing about Jesus in the original Hebrew. Go and get a decent version of the Tanakh .
@scottdsaxton I'm sry if i hurt u. But I jst wanted to say dat how great Lord Buddha is. Lots of Buddhist are silent bcoz they think dat's da best way 2 answer Buddhism related problems.bt I strongly believe dat we Buddhist shd not b silent . we never kill anyone to distribute the religion, and we never will.,but we Buddhist shd not be silent. If you expect me 2 b silent on these types of silly comparison U r wrong my friend. I never wanted to insult any religion. but i'd 2 answer.
@1984JEEN u are correct buddha told us to help others,he also gave us teachings to HELP US,people tend to think idiot compassion is REAL compassion.this is wrong,IDIOT COMPASSION is where u give drug addicts 20 dollars"TO HELP THEM" sorry this isnt helping them and neither is letting people says immoral and hold immoral thoughts and deeds without correcting them for it this doesnt help them,when we see someone walk down a PATH(filled wit ROBBERS) are we GOOD for telling them to get off it?
@1984JEEN In fact, reasons for bending the principle of nonviolence were never wanting. There were considerations of a practical nature: when Buddhist Law is threatened, it is necessary to ruthlessly fight the forces of evil. Kill them all, and the Buddha will recognize his own. Murder in this case is piously qualified as "liberation," since the demon, duly killed out of compassion, will be released from its ignorance and can then be reborn under better auspices.
@MrTheHyperactive well i do beleive in just defense what u are saying is it is wrong to kill a man for fun or out of anger but if u kill a man cause he is holding down a child trying to rape her and u kill him out of compassion and love for the child and to help hewr then this is good.and i think the buddha was born at 1887 bc but i dont think anyone really knows for certain.
@beruangah (1)LOVING KINDNESS Buddha loves all living being Jesus in 1 SAM 15 1-3 SENT men to STAB INFANTS to death :)also u messed up ALL those note the Buddha wsnt BORN gotoma became Buddha later inhis life so the Birth happened under a tree,his status was Buddha,his transport was feet,his dress was RAGS and his STATUS was the 9 PERSECUTIONS,also Buddha wasnt INSECURE like ur deity LEV 24:16 KILL MEN who SPEAK things u dont like,DUET 13:6-18 KILL UNBELEIVERS,sorry cant compare to Buddha.
@mupoe11 or poor you. see how much you hate Buddha. Havent your Jesus taught you to respect other religions. I must say you are an expert in poops but not in insulting Buddhism bcoz you missed the point. Buddhism is not God base religion. lol
Did you know The Buddha Was Not a Historical Person ?
“The historicity of Buddha is accepted by all. But there is no unanimity of the date. In Sri Lanka, 483 BC is accepted as the date of his nirvana while in Burma 544 BC is accepted. In Tibet it is believed to be 835 BC, while in China, 11th century BC is the accepted date. Buddha was an Indian and the Indian Puranic tradition believes that the nirvana took place in 1793 or 1807 BC.
,Good questions, please note I am NOT a literalist so do not expect me to defend a literal reading of scriputre, we can leave that to the right wing christians :-) OK, When Jesus spoke of Gehenna the folks knew exactly what He was talking about. It was an actual place south of Jerusalem, He never used the word we know as "hell". He also put an end to capital punishment when He commanded those without sin to cast the first stone, new testament teachings make it clear that all are with sin...
The Bible says we have all sinned and fallen short of the glory of God (Rom 3:23) Ever lied, stolen, lusted after a woman, hated someone, taken God's name in vain, etc? If so the Bible says you deserve hell for those sins. (Rom 6:23) But God does not want anyone to go to hell so God became a man (Jesus) and died on the cross for your sins and rose again on the third day. He bore the wrath of God on Himself for you. You must repent (turn away) from sin and trust in Him alone to be saved.
@jonesbondchris Really? As toilet paper?...Ouch..Seems like that would not be very soft. To each his (or her) own. You can either know or believe you can not do both. As a Christian I believe in Christ Jesus as Lord but I can't "know" this...do you understand? If I could "prove it" then my belief would have no meaning. I wish you well on your journey. peace to you.
@1macboo you sound like a very peaceful and loving person i dont understand how u can beleive in a religion where its deity sent men to stab infabnts to death in 1 SAM 15:1-3,or to own slaves in lev 25:44-46,and beat those slaves cause they are property EX 21:20-21,or sell ur child as a slave EX 21:7,or kill UNBELEIVERS in DUET 13:6-18,how can a good person like urself except all this immorality and still think ur deity is GOOD OR LOVING i left christianity when i realise that deity was a devil.
@Buddhist1986 "To read the Bible without horror, we must undo everything that is tender,sympathizing and benevolent in the heart of man.(T Paine) The OT(old testament)is far different to the NT. The God of the OT is murderous, jealous, vocal, interfering etc.. The God of the New Testament, appears somewhat removed, highly spiritual, peaceful and reasoned. As a Quaker I worship not the OT god whom I believe to be created in the image of the OT writers. I reject "hell" and violence.
@1macboo well most the talk about hell came from jesus not the old test the old testament rarely talked about hell but jesus discribed it in clearly,it was also jesus who said beleive in him of u will be sent their for eternity,also read MATT 4:4 and MATT 5:17-19 this shows jesus knew about and supported the old laws in the old test,plus in one verse he rebukes men for NOT stoneing their children and finding ways around gods law,so the new test still conspires with the old.
@Buddhist1986 .As a Quaker I read the bible metaphorically so i'm free to look for the larger truth in the message....that said let me exit with this... :-) "Exercise is good for your body, but religion helps you in every way. It promises life now and forever." These words are worthwhile and should not be forgotten. We have put our hope in the living God, who is the Savior of everyone, but especially (meaning NOT exclusively)of those who have faith. 1Tim 4:9-11 Peace!
@mahender6969 Koreans? North or South? Or does it matter as Koreans from either nation are not great copies of the Bible. You are correct that Jesus is a bad copy of the Buddha because he is nothing like Buddha, thus a bad copy. ;-)
i like Buddah silence on God peopel talk to much out their anus ' the jews named God as Yah wehmeaning ( unknown) unnemable wich is the same unattainable concept so this itself shows how all religionscan be traced to one source..stop typing your bullshiiiii so much 'open your ear s ' your fearing anticrist but you don't listen to truth very well
@thenewend2012 YAHWEH is the name of God. It came from YHWH, meaning "He Brings Into Existence Whatever Exists." Or it simply means LORD!
So, YHWH = YAHWEH = YAHSHUAH = JESUS = "YAHWEH is Salvation." So, contrary to what you said, God is very knowable. And if you want to know who God is, get to know who His only begotten Son, Jesus of Nazareth, aka, the Christ, is. That's why Jesus came, not only to teach the way to heaven, but to be the only Way to heaven.
@thenewend2012 Antichrist can only come after the Church is raptured (by God), so why do I have to fear him, because I will be long gone when he shows up.
please digest about history of Buddha before you post it. some of the things are wrong. Buddha never said he would come back as he attained enlightment that means he will never recarnated in any form. he never rises the deads
danke Herr Jesus, dass durch deinen Tod und deine Auferstehung, alle Götzen entmachtet wurden. Herr, setze die Menschen von den bösen Geistern der Lüge frei.
I am a Buddhist practitioner for a good while and I've also studied comparative religion and Christians indeed did and do kill in the name of god. I think you should look into things as well. Crusades. Buddha and Jesus were the same. They were human beings who achieved enlightenment and tried to teach others how to get there by their example. Christ was a Jew, not a Christian. That was man made and it was the earliest form of government for the times. I am an atheist. Most Buddhists are.
@thubtenwangmo, what were you before you became a Buddhist?
Did Jesus or any of His disciples kill anyone? In fact, most of them were killed while preaching the Gospel. The crusades (1095-1291) was a response to Muslim invasion into Israel & Europe, fought largely by mercenaries. & remember no one at that time had read the Bible, except the Roman Catholic priests, prior to the Reformation (1517-1648).
@KATAERO My whole point has nothing to do with whether or not Christ was or wasn't this or that, is or isn't this or that. My point is this vapid exchange and rabid, obsessive defense is the thing of wars and causes of wars. Most wars are about God and the different beliefs. I suggest you worship as you wish, believe in and have faith in what you want and to discontinue this incessant fighting and arguing in the name of Jesus. He wouldn't want it, and He doesn't need it. It doesn't matter.
@Buddhist1986 Haha, very funny. If that is true, it's ridiculous...like most of what is in the bible IMO. The only thing which makes sense in the bible are the gospels which teach people how to have charity, compassion and love. Everything else is ridiculous.
@thubtenwangmo the bible says much worse things,what makes me confused is a christian will say its wrong to kill infants and mass murder people and kill gays and kill unbeleivers and own slaves,ITS EVIL AND IMMORAL AND UNJUST THEN when u show them the scriptures that their deity says to do these things all of a sudden its good to do these things as longs as their deity ordered it and their is a reason their PURE deity sent men to slit infants throats,i tell u what it is their brainwashed.
@Buddhist1986 Oh I agree. We kill more people on death row here in Texas than any other state. It's a big event. Like blood letting. It's disgusting and very much against the teachings of Christ, who I believe was an enlightened being, much the way Shakyamuni Buddha is. There are many hypocrites from all sides, in all belief systems and of them all, the Christians are the most hateful and violent.
@thubtenwangmo i beleive jesus could have been an enlightened being or close to it i think the pauline sect of christianity is MORE jewish than the original gospels off thomas teachings,i think jesus was trying to change his peoples worship to a buddhist way of life and he was killed for it and his teachings messed with cause if u have read the old test and the new test THEY ARE NOTHING ALIKE jesus went against everything the hebrew god said to do
@thubtenwangmo, as I can recall, the War that ends all War, WWI had nothing to do with religions & so was the most deadly & devastating war of all time, WWII.
Hey, who forces you to read my comments? If you don't like it, just don't read or respond to it! I know the truth hurts but it's still the truth, OK? Or do you prefer lies from the Father of all lies? I'm sure you know who I'm referring to.
The fact is, that Jesus and his disciples were definitely advocates of violence, consider the Temple Tantrum, and the incident with the sword and the ear in the garden...where did the sword come from ? Also Jesus is on record making some very bellicose pronouncements that his later followers used as excuses to murder their fellow humans.
@formless777 Jesus advocated taking reasonable precaution for self-defense. That's the sword of Peter, presumably, was all about. Jesus told him to drop it & fixed the ear of that temple guard, so the Scripture would be fulfilled. That ear-fixing was the last miracle of Jesus, until His resurrection, recorded in the Bible. So, what kind of a Man was Jesus of Nazareth, aka, the Christ, if He could divinely fix an ear like that? Could Guatama Siddhartha do that?
(con) Jesus rose from the dead & is living today, but Buddha didn't. So what made you believe the two were the same?
Yes, Jesus was born as a Jew, but upon His resurrection, He proved Himself to be the Christ, the Son of the living God. If the 1st Christians weren't the Jews, who else could that be? Christianity was 1st originated in Israel & later spread to Rome, the rest of the world, right? In fact, there're many Messianic Christians (Jewish Christians) living in Israel today. (con)
(con) Buddhists believe in the Law of Karma & Reincarnation, right? If yes, how can there be a Law without the Lawgiver? And how do you know Karma & Reincarnation exists at all?
And finally, do you believe heaven & hell exist, why or why not?
By the way, I'm a former Buddhist (by birth & training) from Thailand, but now a follower of Jesus Christ. Praise the Lord!
@KATAERO I am the lawgiver of my karma. I create the conditions for whatever happens in my life. No outside source is necessary, just as no outside source makes my heart beat. I believe karma and reincarnation exists, it's called con fide. With faith. You cannot prove one way or the other the existence of God, so what is the debate about? I didn't say you should not believe. I simply said this type of hateful bickering in the name of God is what has murdered millions of people for years.
@thubtenwangmo, "I am the lawgiver of my karma...bla, bla , bla," but what if you're wrong? Do you know God love you enough to send His only Son to redeem you?
You're absolutely correct, none of us can prove one way or theother whether God exists or not. That's why we called it Faith. But unlike Buddhism, when you become born again, you will definitely know it that God exists, because His hands will be all over you, to change you to be the person He created you to be.
Clearly, based on your debate here it is obvious why there are more dead people in the name of "God" than all other disasters on earth. Gee wiz, chill out. You are fighting over Buddha and Jesus? Are you serious?
@thubtenwangmo, unlike the radical Muslims, neither Christians nor Buddhists kill other people so they can go to heaven, OK? So, I hope you'll find out more about the subject matter before you open your mouth & remove all doubts.
yes kataero where are the verses in the pali canon that support prostitution,and abortion?in digha nikaya sutta 2 it actually says ABORTION IS IMMORAL,what about the bible whnat does it say about infants 1 SAM 15:1-3,it looks like buddhas scripture is PURE and the "holy bible" is really filled with evil and immoral laws and teachings,the christian bible tells men to kill gays,kill unbeleivers,own slaves,SACRIFICE THEIR FIRST BORNS TO THEIR DEITY EX 22:28-29 CHRISTIANITY IS EVIL.
@Buddhist1986, my point is Buddhism doesn't work! And we're no longer in the Law of the OT, since Christ already came & took care of whatever happened there.
@KATAERO THE OT LAW AND WRITTINGS SHOW THAT UR DEITY REALLY ISNT PURE HE WAS JUST LIKE BUDDHA SAID "GODS"WERE, TAINTED NO DIFFERENT THAN HUMANS,UR GOD DID EVIL IMMORAL THINGS NO DIFFERENT THAN A DEVIL
@Buddhist1986, you know that God create man in "His image & likeness." So, if you can be emotional sometimes, like love, disappointment, angry, pissed off, etc, why can't God? His emotional range is just off our scale. Can you imagine the same God who nearly wipe out all humanity during the Great Flood, died for your sin on the cross, so your sin can be forgiven. That's how much He loves you.
I think it's about time now you telling me about your definitions of Good & Evil, please.
@KATAERO YES AS U SAY UR DEITY IS NO DIFFERENT THAN MEN,HE IS NOT PURE AND DIVINE LIKE THE BUDDHA,UR GOD IS TAINTED WITH MURDER AND EGO,HOW CAN UR SIN BE ORGIVEN BY A BEING THAT SINS?
evil is something that causes a person suffering and is not helpfull to them,it is hatred,greed,ignorance,not careing for others like u would urself,ask would u want that to be done to u?evil causes more problems than it fixs,evil causes men to do unspeakable things to other men and finds ways to justify itself.
@Buddhist1986, you can say whatever you want about Him, but He own all things in the universe He created. So I love to see you standing in His presence & saying that to His face, in your afterlife after you die. Talk is cheap but action is precious, OK?
@KATAERO also jesus NEVER did away with the law,MATT 5:17-19the law will not change till heaven and earth pass,also matt 4:4 FOLLOW EVERY WORD,MATT 23:1-3 whatever the preist bid u concerning the old law U ARE TO DO(but dont be like these preists they preach the old law but dont follow it)ROMANS 3:31 get rid o the law god forbid,MARK 7:1-13 JESUS SAID TO STONE UR CHILDREN AND KEEP THE LAW IN VERSE 9-10 AND TELL MEN TO FOLLOW GODS LAWS NOT MANS.1 JOHN 3:4 SIN IS BREAKING THE LAW SO KEEP THE LAW.
@Buddhist1986, exactly, because we can't keep the Law, no matters how hard we try, esp, the Buddhists. That's why He came. By receiving Him into your life, He, not only forgive your sin through His blood shed at the Calvary, but will help you keep the Law through the power of the Holy Spirit in you. Otherwise, how did many criminals, Islamic terrorists, etc, turn their lives around & became Christians?
@KATAERO BUT THE LAW TELLS MEN TO KILL UNBELEIVERS AND KILL AGYS so u can keep the law u just dont want to!WHY?and u said u are saved thru christ thru FAITH well does that mean u can molest children everyday like ur pedophile preists and since u beleive in christ u are SAVED THRU FAITH,so a christian can do what he wants or is he really saved thru his WORKS?seems like u arnt saved by faith unless u think molestors go to heaven and buddhists like me go to hell?ur heaven must be hell.
@Buddhist1986, the OT Law applied specifically to the Jews. So, when you read about Jesus Christ, what do you think of Him, since He is the same God of both OT & NT? When a woman caught in adultery was brought to Jesus, what did He do?
Again, what's your definition of a "Christian?" Are the Catholic priests who raped children "Christian?" Tell me why you think they are "Christians," & I'll tell you why they're not. Deal?
@KATAERO yes those preists who raped kids are CHRISTIAN CAUSE THEIR SAVED BY FAITH aint they?the OT law applied to the CHILDREN OF GOD are u a child of god u were actually brought into the law off god REMEMBER jesus didnt do away with the law!and jesus was god of new and old the jesus told men to STAB INFANTS TO DEATH AND STONE ADULTERERS,why would an all knowing being make evil laws just so he would have to change them?A CHRISTIAN IS SOMEONE WHO HAS FAITH IN CHRIST SINCE THAT IS HOW U ARE SAVED
@Buddhist1986, about those Catholic priests who raped children, do you know what's in their minds? I think only God can do that.
Did Jesus say "You will know them by their fruits?" (Matt 7:16) He also said "Even so, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit." (Matt 7:17-18)
So, with that in mind, do you believe those Catholic rapists are "good trees?"
(con) Moreover, Jesus said "Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Therefore, by their fruits you will know them." (Matt 7:19-20)
Again, what's your definition of a "Christian," please?
Where did you get that info saying Satan's name is "Jehova?"
Have you heard of "being born again in Christ?" God have to make you a "Christian" & you'll definitely know it once you become born again.
(con) I'm afraid, unless we can clarify the real definition of a "Christian," we're going nowhere here.
So, again, what do you think made a person to be a "Christian?" Does, going to church every Sunday with Bible in hand make you a "Christian?" Let me tell you that it's a lot harder to be a "Christian" than a "Buddhist," talking from my personal experience.
@KATAERO U ARNT A CHRISTIANBY UR WORKS U CANT GET TO HEAVEN BY UR WORKS U CAN ONLY GET TO HEAVEN THRU "FAITH" U SAID IT URSELF,........UNLESS UR NOW SAYING U HAVE TO HAVE WORKS TO GET TO HEAVEN THEN U ARE SAYING A CHRISTIAN ISNT SAVED BY WORKS.
YES I BELEIVE SATAN EXISTS AND HIS NAME IS UR DEITY JEHOVA WHO TELLS MEN TO DO HERENDOUS ACTS OF IMMORALITY,TELL ME WHAT IS THE DIFFENCE BETWEEN UR GOD AND UR SATAN?
@Buddhist1986, so do you want to be born again, by receiving Jesus Christ into your life to be your personal Lord & Savior, to be called a child of God & to receive salvation & eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord?
@KATAERO i was once a christian for 13 yrs i left this evil immoral religion,those chatolic preists have FAITH so they are saved correct?unless ur saying ur saved by WORKS?are u saying ur going to kill me cause u are cutting down the fruit that doesnt OBEY? im saying satan,lucifer,bezelbub,is the same as yahweh,jehova,I AM,ur god and ur satan are the same WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN GOD AND SATAN?
@Buddhist, were you a Catholic for 13 yrs? Did you read the Bible, at least the NT?
I wouldn't blame you for leaving Catholicism, because I would too. When Jesus said "It is finished" while being hung on the cross at Calvary (John 19:30), all the high priests became unemployed at that instant. & the thick vail in the Jewish Temple was torn in half from top to bottom, signifying from that moment on, man could boldly approach God by faith, covered in the blood of His only begotten Son.
@KATAERO yes ur reiligion is know for human sacrifice,jesus was a human sacrifice,so was jebhothats daughter to ur deity,also the prophet micha thought about sacrificeing his son to god,IT DOESNT HELP UR DEITY ASKED FOR ALL THE FIRST BORN INFANTS TO BE SACRIFICED TO HIM EX 22:28-29 ALSO UR FAITH IS A NOTORIOUS DOOMSDAY CULT,that always WANTS the world to be destroyed and men slaughtered.
@Buddhist1986, about jebhothat's daughter, you're dead wrong because God prohibit human sacrifice through OT Law (Deuteronomy 12:31).
Exodus 22:28-29, the word "give" mean "to dedicate or to consecrate" to God for the same reason. Man, your translation is way off, OK?
Peter was crucified upside down (of his own request) about 200 yrs before Roman Catholicism became the state religion of the Roman Empire when the Roman Catholic Church was 1st established. So don't let the pope fool you!
You are incorrect about human sacrifice in the name of the OT God. It was common, and archaeology from the period suggests that the Jews killed and ate their first born children to honor their god. Later they just burned the bodies like in a holocaust. Eventually, as they stopped being mindless savages and began to become civilized, and parents could offer a sacrifice or payment. God however sacrificed his firstborn child, and his worshipers still eat of him at mass.
@formless777, "You shall not worship the Lord your God in that way; for every abomination to the Lord which He hates they have done to their gods; for they burn even their sons and daughters in the fire to their gods." (Deuteronomy 12:31)
Come-on, God even provided our perfect Sacrifice, i.e, the Lamb of God who takes away the sins of the world." Got to love God, ha?
Archaeologists can say whatever they want, but I love God & believe His Word in the Bible. Praise Him!
(con) I still have no ideas how the pope still manages to fool billions of people for all these yrs, that he still have a job as high priest, claiming salvation is only possible through him & his Catholic Church, despite the obvious lack of any biblical supports. He then tries to cover up the unspeakable evil done by those rapists in the Catholic Church. It simply blew my mind.
According to what Jesus said in Matt 7:16-18, no, those raping priests were not His followers (Christians) at all.
@KATAERO christian salvation is only thru the catholic church have u never read the bible or must i have to constantly teach u,u say OBVIOUS LACK OF ANY BIBLICAL SUPPORTS,MATT 16:17-19 upon peter will the church be built,he will be given the keys to the kingdom of heaven,and what ever u bind on earth shall be bound in heaven,and whatever u loose on earth will be loosed in heaven,U DO KNOW THE CATHOLIC CHURCH WAS THE FIRST CHUCH AND MOST CHRISTIANS ARE CATHOLIC HERES UR SUPPORT.
Actually the Gospels contains no less than 8 separate statements of what is required of people to earn salvation. Being a member of the Catholic Church is not mentioned amongst them. Do you think Jesus would approve of the Catholic Church ?
(com) If you read the Book of Acts, you'll know the first Christians were those Jews converted through the Apostles, about 3,000 alone right after the Pentecost (Acts 2:41), through Peter. Christianity spread to Rome through Paul during many of his missionary journeys, before he was execute in Rome.
Well, did the name "Martin Luther" & the Reformation ring a bell? That's how we got back to purity of those early Christian churches in Jerusalem.
(con) Those raping priests may have faith but in the Devil, not Jesus Christ for sure. No, they're not saved & if they don't repent, they will be thrown into the fire (hell) by God (Matt 7:19).
Christians, including myself, are saved by God's grace through faith in His only Son, Jesus Christ.
Jesus' 2 Commandments to all Christians are to love God & to love neighbors as themselves. Therefore, I love Jesus with all my heart, soul, mind & strength, and love you as I love myself. (con)
(con) By the way, Jesus' Greatest Commandments is in Mark 12:30-31. So what made you think I wanted to kill you? If Jesus commands me to love you as I love myself, to kill you is like killing myself, isn't it? Come-on!
God is the "Pruner," not me. He commands me to love you & that what I do, to love you, the same way He loves me, unconditionally.
@KATAERO DIDNT U SAY U ARE SAVED THRU "FAITH" DONT THESE PREISTS HAVE "FAITH" SO THEY ARE SAVED AND GO TO HEAVEN.ISNT IT U WHO SAID FAITH IS ALL U NEED?
@Buddhist1986, Jesus said we would know them by their fruits (Matt 7:20). The fruit of the Spirit are love. joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness & self-control. (Galatians 5:22-23)
So according to the "fruits" of those rapping priests, according to what Jesus said, what made you believe they have faith in Jesus Christ? They may have faith all right, but definitely not in Jesus Christ.
You raise Matt 7:20 But If we are to know a tree by their fruits, what are the fruits of Christianity ? Murder, atrocities, torture of innocents at the hands of people steeped in this so-called "Gospel of Love". Civilization has never had a greater retardant than Christianity, and that is the true fruit of Jesus' teachings.
@formless777, can you give me an example of "murder, atrocities, torture of innocents at the hands of people steeped in this-so-called 'Gospel of Love?'" And also "never had a greater retardant than Christianity?"
"can you give me an example of "murder, atrocities, torture of innocents at the hands of people steeped in this-so-called 'Gospel of Love?'" And also "never had a greater retardant than Christianity?"
So firstly...Yes...the Wars of Religion in Europe.
Secondly, look at how Europe declined from the Late Roman Period until the Early Christian period, all that technical, medical, and scientific knowledge stopped dead until the Renaissance.
@formless777 Which Wars of Religion in Europe are you talking about?
Do you know whether the Renaissance coincide with the Protestant Reformation?
Thank you so much for your info on the latest Australian flood. However, do you know how long the "Wet Cycle" usually last? And what Australians generally prefer between Wet & Dry?
The Wars of Religion came after the Renaissance, and do coincide with the Protestant Reformation. They generally cover events such as the 30 years war, the wars in the Netherlands against Spain, and so forth. The period where Christians went around routinely performing atrocities on each other in God's name, lol.
Australia generally prefers the wet cycle, as it means more viable crops. We get about 1/3 wet to dry in a decade, we're a dry continent.
@formless777 Prior to the Reformation, the Word of God was the best kept secret of the Roman Catholic Church. Only the Catholic priests had access to it. As the Catholic Church became more corrupted, the Word of God was shamelessly altered & exploited for money & power of the Church at the expense of everybody else, esp, the poor. It took a rebellious Catholic monk, named Martin Luther, who put his neck on the line against the Church, in order to bring the Word of God to common people.
@formless777 How could they be called "Christians" without having access to the Word of God? The monopolistic Catholic Church was calling all the shots with the only goal of enriching itself in mind. Jesus said "You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, soul, mind and strength, and to love your neighbor as yourself." (Luke 10:27) Now, with that in mind, can you tell me whether the atrocities you're talking about was in agreement or conflict with Jesus' own Word?
@KATAERO this happen in the judea church in the bible the apostle order some to get marrried like Peter call Simon &* other to be celebate it was by will the apostle set it was not by works but by faith , he state if your soul is losing the battle because of sex then you should get marriet once if your soul is winning then you should keep single like Jesus in his honor '
@formless777 (con) Do you believe the Reformation, when the Word of God became widely available to all common people, was responsible for unleashing the Renaissance, giving people the unprecedented liberty & freedom to revolutionize the culture, esp the art?
And what is your opinion of that daring monk, Martin Luther?
Are you saying that each cycle last about 10 yrs? In dry Southern California, we prefer the wet cycle too. Who doesn't like free water, right? Water is expensive here.
(con) Satan is a fallen chief-angle named Lucifer, who rebelled against God (Isaiah 14:12-14). He said "I will" 5 times, instead of obeying God's will. He simply wanted to be like God, despite being created by Him. In Luck 10:18, God kicked him out of heaven & he fell down to, guess where else? That's how sin first entered the world, from him to Adam & the rest is history (Genesis 3:1-24)
@KATAERO YES BEZELBUB FELL FROM HEAVEN,BUT NOW HERES THE DELIMA THEIR WAS A WAR IN HEAVEN AND PAIN AND SUFFERING THEIR IS FREE WILL TO DO EVIL IN HEAVEN HENCE THE DEVIL CHOSE EVIL,U CAN SIN IN HEAVEN AND GET KICKED OUT OF HEAVEN,JUST LIKE BUDDHA SAID THE HEAVENS ARE NO DIFFERENT THAT EARTH,U CAN >>>SIN<<<< IN HEAVEN JUST LIKE EARTH CAUSE U HAVE FREE WILL.
@Buddhist1986, I'm not familiar with this BEZELBUB guy, but if he is one of those fallen angels who rebelled & sinned against God, he did so with full knowledge of who God is. Therefore, he can't or won't repent. However, man sinned because of his lack of knowledge of who God is. So upon hearing of the Gospel, he can repent if he chooses to & receive salvation & eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.
It is interesting that you raise Isaiah 14:12 where Satan is identified as the Morning Star. Jesus too is identified as the Morning Star in Revelations 22:16. Has it not occurred to you that Jesus is actually Satan ? His teachings were completely at odds with all Jewish teaching that went before him after all...
@formless777, it's imperative for you to have a reliable translation of the original Hebrew & Greek Bible. I use NKJV.
In Isaiah 14:12, "Lucifer" in Hebrew literally means "Day Star," or the Planet Venus.
In Revelations 22:16, "Bright and Morning Star" means that for Christians, Jesus is the comforting light in a dark world until the dawn of His return (Revelation 2:28).
So, you have to distinguish between Morning Star and "Bright" Morning Star ? Face facts, Christians are Satanists, and if Jesus was the Son of God, then so was Satan. Jesus broke the covenant while saying he upheld it. and turned the Gentiles against the Jews. Jesus was a "worker of wonders", a false messiah (failed in the 4 tasks of the Messiah) and a false prophet (Jesus' false prophecy Matt 24:29 & 24:34). Jesus was a self confessed bringer of strife.
@formless, Lucifer (Satan, the Devil, etc) is known as the Father of lies & with good reason, he's been fooling so many people for so long, causing them to miss heaven & end up in hell. So, unless, God is with you, you can hardly know his evil & endless tricks. Satan is also known as "Son of the Morning," so watch out for him & his evil tricks.
If God is the real $100 bill, Satan is the closest counterfeit out there & unless you know what the real thing looks & feels like, you're screwed.
It is particularly amusing that you claim God is the real $100 bill, when currency has no intrinsic value, it is only the symbolic value that human superimpose on pieces of paper that give it any value at all. How very apt.
I accept the existence of neither God or Satan, they are just silly Jewish folk tales, which only the extremely gullible take seriously.
Science promises nothing and delivers a lot. Religion promises the world and delivers nothing but misery.
@formless777, about the real $100 bill, do you know what is money or its role in our Economy? If it has no intrinsic value, why do you think the FBI is deadly serious about eliminating the counterfeit money like the fake $100 bill?
"Science promises nothing & delivers a lot?" Really, what about WMDs? You may be right about religion, except Christianity is not a religion but a personal relationship with God through His only Son, Jesus Christ.
The value of money is symbolic, not actual. If you didn't think other people think it has value, it would have no value and the FBI counterfeit unit would have other tasks to perform.
Even WMDs have had a salutory effect. Consider that WMDs have done a great deal to stop war altogether as most leaders fear the consequences of their use. Now let us consider, a stalker's love affair with a celebrity is more real than your relationship with Jesus and God.
@formless777, that's not according to Albert Einstein, my friend!
Symbolic value can't ruin an Economy, but only real value can, by creating inflation. That's why the FBI is deadly serious about eliminating counterfeiting.
The next Middle Eastern conflict may involve the use of nuclear weapons, not to mention another potential one in Korean peninsular. Unlike the WWII or the Cold War when only one or two nations possessed nukes, now many more nations, including the unstable ones have them.
Who told you Einstein was a theist ? The truth is, he was a Deist not a Theist. He did not accept the notion of a personal god, and only the deranged can make that claim with a straight face.
As to nuclear weapons, apart from WW2 they haven't been used in anger, and the Communist Bloc wasn't particularly stable, nor was the USA under many of it's presidents. Frankly nothing filled me with as much dread as Ronald Reagan declaiming about the coming rapture. Theism is evil.
"I want to know how God created this world. I am not interested in this or that phenomenon, in the spectrum of this or that element. I want to know His thoughts. The rest are details." (Albert Einstein)
"In view of such harmony in the cosmos which I, with my limited human mind, am able to recognize, there are yet people who say there is no God. But what makes me really angry is that they quote me for support of such views." (Albert Einstein)
"The word god is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honorable, but still primitive legends which are nevertheless pretty childish. No interpretation no matter how subtle can (for me) change this." -Albert Einstein
"I cannot conceive of a personal God who would directly influence the actions of individuals, or would directly sit in judgment on creatures of his own creation." -Albert Einstein
@formless777, "In view of such harmony in the cosmos which I, with my limited human mind, am able to recognize, there are yet people who say there is no God. But what makes me really angry is that they quote me for support of such views." (Albert Einstein)
With his own admission, Einstein couldn't wrap his finite mind around the infinite mind of God. In fact, no one can. What we can do is to believe in His Word in the Bible.
Except that the Bible is conspicuously wrong and can never have been in any way involved with the mind of a universal creator because it doesn't get even basic things about our planet that a real god would know correct.
Einstein was a Deist, not a Theist. There is a huge difference.
@formless777, will you be kind enough to show me where the Bible was wrong about our planet?
"I want to know how God created this world. I am not interested in this or that phenomenon, in the spectrum of this or that element. I want to know His thoughts. The rest are details." (Albert Einstein)
It looks like Einstein couldn't bring himself to believe in the Word of God, despite of God's marvelous Creation was starring him in the face. (con)
I am more than happy to demonstrate that the force that directed the writing of the Bible was that of ignorant lying ancient Semites, not a deity who truly constructed the world and understood what it was creating...
Now let's get stuck into the Physics of Genesis...
Firstly, how come in Genesis 1:1, God creates heaven and Earth, but takes until genesis 1:16 to make the Sun and the Moon when we know without doubt that The Earth is the product of material ejected from the Sun ?
@formless777, in Genesis 1:16, the term for "lights" can mean "luminaries." The word can either designate the son, which emits light, or the moon, which reflects light.
We may be abel to make an educated guess or assume with high degree of certainty how the earth was formed but without direct observation or repeated experiments, we can't never be 100% sure of how it was actually formed. Do you know where the abundant amount of liquid water on earth came from or how the moon was formed?
You missed the point. We have clear evidence that the bulk of the matter in our solar system was ejected from the Sun. Not only does the Bible tell us that our planet existed before the sun, it tells us that the oceans existed before the Sun, and trees and grasses existed before the Sun. This is completely and provably false. Astronomy has mapped and measured the behavior of stars, of which our Sun is but one, and their life cycles, these things are well understood.
(con) This can only prove one thing that being a genius doesn't necessarily get one to heaven, although, plenty of geniuses did make it to heaven, like Kepler, Galileo, Newton, Faraday, Pascal, Pasteur, etc.
Geniuses of today like Molecular Geneticist Francis Collins, NASA's Theoretical Physicist Joan Centrella, and etc are well on their way to heaven. I'm just glad that being a genius is not God's only prerequisite for going to heaven. So what can I say other than to love & worship Him.
Except that believers don't go to heaven, their physical forms are merely recycled by natural processes like everyone elses and you are deluded. Just because you believes something doesn't make it true. Truth is something that can only be established through testing and review of evidence. There is no God, and the Bible proves that God is impossible, as I will demonstrate to you. You will agree that your God is perfect, as He stresses over and over in the Bible ? So no mistakes ?
(con) I not only believe but know that God exists, is real, is who He said He is in the Bible & Jesus Christ is He. You should know how difficult for someone like me, who was born & raised a Buddhist, to come to believe in Jesus Christ as his personal Lord & Savior.
Yes, I think God is perfect & knows exactly what He's doing. Are you perfect or do you know what you're doing?
If there is no Creator God, then how can the universe come into existence? Can nothing create something from nothing?
The idea that something can come from nothing is a simple fact in Quantum physics. The observable and necessary fact is, that the natural laws of the universe we inhabit are that subatomic particles randomly pop into existence. If they didn't, movement would be impossible. These entities are called virtual particles. Given therefore that we know particles can appear from nothing, we need no "God explanation", only the physical tendencies that regulate matter.
@forml, Quantum physics sure is one possible theory, while Stephen Hawking's Singularity is another possible theory, suggesting mathematically that all of the energy & matter in the presumably infinite universe came from absolutely nothing. However, he can't prove the existence of a Creator because of the limit of Mathematics. So I guess only Faith can close that gap from Singularity to the Creator. In short, science can only point the way but will never be able to prove the existence of God.
I think you've missed the point. You said nothing can come from nothing. I have shown you that such a statement is incorrect. You desperately want to superimpose your God onto a universe that has no place for such a logical aberration. Humans made god, the way humans made Winnie the Pooh, Bugs Bunny, and the Tooth Fairy, each made in the image of humans by humans, but all fictional characters created by imagination and recorded in books a long time ago. No difference.
@formless777, I don't desperately want to superimpose my God onto a universe at all. All I'm saying is that Science can only suggest or point to certain possible explanations, such as Quantum physic & Stephen Hawking's Singularity.
According to the Bible, God switched on the nuclear fusion process in the Sun after He created Earth. The Sun was part of "heaven," so it must be created first but its nuclear fusion reactor was not yet switched on.
The problem with your statement regarding your Semitic Sky Tyrant turning on the sun is that he had already created the Earth, and he did that first, and that is temporally and factually incorrect. We KNOW, the sun created the Earth or else the Earth would be older than the Sun, and due to the age of other solar ejecta, and the life cycle stage of the Sun, compared to the age of the Earth, that simply cannot be true. Your God made nothing, you've been lied to.
The Buddha was not born of a virgin. This is a huge misconception. Clearly the story of Siddartha's life lists his father, King Suddhodana, of the Sakya Tribe.
Godzfynestwork 3 months ago
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Buddhism is an education, way of life, way to find ur real self and the path of Happiness.
in Buddhism, u can become a Buddha if u follow the Buddha's teachings.
If u follow the Ways of God in Christianity, Muslim, Judaism and other god believe religions, in the end Can u become a God ?
TheDoom13 3 months ago
The big differences were... "the awaken do not save, they only show the way to nirvana" --Siddhartha. ... "you can only be saved through me" --Jesus
Racsonify 4 months ago
@Racsonify
“You will know the truth, and the truth will set you free” (John 8:32).
Read the holy book of Buddhists known as Tipitaka and see how beautiful and profound Buddha's teaching is.
impermanentoo 3 months ago
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@Racsonify
“You will know the truth, and the truth will set you free” (John 8:32).
Read the holy book of Buddhists known as Tipitaka and see how beautiful and profound Buddha's teaching is.
impermanentoo 3 months ago
@merkleyc Love your enemy. So why don't you love Satan? Fucking hypocrite.
lesliekwan80 4 months ago
there's no comparison because buddha rides a golden chariot not a mule, he was a Prince not a slave, a teacher of Gods and mankind not a Phrophet or messenger and attain awakening and enligtenment by his own effort - not from aynone.
beruangah 6 months ago
Jesus and Buddha. Two of my closest friends.
Mrgalacticone 6 months ago
Buddha wasn't born of a virgin birth. he fasted longer than forty days. he ate a single grain of rice a day for 7 yrs. What miracles did he perform? He didn't heal the sick. Never walked on water. didn't feed people. "transfigured" or became enlightened under a fig tree. DID NOT RESURRECT!!! EVER! didn't go beyond his palace walls until 18+. Never baptized. What Trinity? his last supper was tainted pork, w/o "disciples". didn't raise dead. didn't promise to return. 90% wrong. learn to research!
alienbeing00 6 months ago
@alienbeing00 the virgin birth is debateable(it could go either way)actually buddhist scripture states Lord Buddha walked on water,walked thru walls and mountains,flew to the moon and sun(MAJJHIMA NIKAYA the greater discourse of the lion verse 6) & touched the whole universe with his big toe,actually he did heal the sick along with his deciples,his lower disciples actually resurected,also the Buddha is eternal and never left this earth(lotus sutra chap 16)(baptized in the 3 pureland sutra)
Buddhist1986 6 months ago
@alienbeing00 (CONT)sir why did u say this is 90% wrong and to do research??i can show u with scripture that Buddha walked on water(JUST DID)along with all those miricles,his lower disciple who wasnt even the Buddha RESURRECTED=MAJJHIMA NIKAYA sutta 50"the rebuke of mara" verse 10-11 they set him on fire and he showed up the next day:)MN sutta 86 verse 15,heals a mother and her infant,Buddha nevr left he is always with us and walks among us LOTUS SUTRA chapt 16,here is ur research sir:)
Buddhist1986 6 months ago
@alienbeing00 I saw this thing on T.V. where buddha had to battle with some demon from the underworld. He caused the earth to shake. he caused stars to fall from the sky. He battled a whole army of demons. He was enticed by earthly sensualities. I'm talking about the buddha. He apparently had some supernatural powers. It was on Public Broadcasting. A good piece on Buddhism. Anyway, Jesus and Buddha are two good friends of mine.
Mrgalacticone 6 months ago
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EncantadaPorTi 8 months ago
there no comparison bet them. yeshu said he is the son of god.
but buddha said he is a human being.
rockdnation 8 months ago
@rockdnation well Buddha did say he was the teacher of all gods so that would include him being the teacher of the son of god and his god,and he was the teacher of humans and ALL living beings,and the Buddha was the unequaled and un compareible the Lord,and the Highest being in the universe,so one could rightly say he was the supreme being aslo known by many as god,also did u know the Buddha walked on water?and did many miricales
Buddhist1986 8 months ago
@rockdnation yes,buddhism didn't believe in god
Tanatbenbenpoppop 7 months ago
@Tanatbenbenpoppop Buddhism isnt atheist Buddhism has many gods so yes Buddhists and Buddha did beleive their was gods,the Lord Buddha said he the teacher of all gods and living beings,the highest being,some people call this highest being god,all this is,is a word game=the unequaled supreme one(god/Buddha/higher power/supreme one)all titles for the divine one mind.peace and love
Buddhist1986 6 months ago
@Tanatbenbenpoppop Buddhism isnt atheist Buddhism has many gods so yes Buddhists and Buddha did beleive their was gods,the Lord Buddha said he the teacher of all gods and living beings,the highest being,some people call this highest being god,all this is,is a word game=the unequaled supreme one(god/Buddha/higher power/supreme one)all titles for the divine one mind.peace and love,also Buddhism is monotheist,all Buddhas are one mind many bodies,SAME mind SAME enlightenment:)
Buddhist1986 6 months ago
@Buddhist1986 In fact buddha he is not god he is human being and he enlightment nirvana that he know everything ,only human can reach nirvana not god ,and people know god in buddhism after he die. reply me if disagree
Tanatbenbenpoppop 6 months ago
@Tanatbenbenpoppop reaserch my freind the Lord buddha was the highest GOD 33 times,gods in Buddhism are lower beings and the Lord Buddha is their teacher of master which ALL gods and living beings worship=Buddhist scripture,yes being in enlightenment he is all knowing,shakyamuni was a human the Buddha isnt a human but a state of PURE mind,also gods can reach enlightenment look up PURE ABODES=thervadan,PURELAND=mahayana,when one goes to the pure abode he is a god and non retrogresses till nirvana
Buddhist1986 6 months ago
@Buddhist1986 You answer me same answer I reply you same answer He is not god he is 100% human
not like another religion,Buddhist is very strange religion in western because "original" buddhist have no any god.so what nation you are?are you buddism?what type of buddhism you are?
Tanatbenbenpoppop 6 months ago
@Tanatbenbenpoppop i never said the buddha was god i said he is the teacher of all gods,which is the highest being,the buddha isnt a human but a state of mind,the flesh itself is not important.u can read my profile for all that information.i think we are on the same page,i think we just have a misunderstanding.i beleive the Lord Buddha is the highest being in the universe higher than all gods,gods are lower beings,the buddha is the DIVINE one who performed many miricles such as agumala ECT.
Buddhist1986 6 months ago
@Tanatbenbenpoppop (CONT)ur 100% correct we are having a cultural misunderstanding u see where i come from when a person says Buddha was a just a human what he is saying is the Lord Buddha was no better than me and u,he wasnt the highest being but just a mere person,the nirvana he discovered was just a happy state of mind nothing more,and all buddhists are atheist and their is no afterlife,and their is no supernaturality in buddhism
Buddhist1986 6 months ago
@Buddhist1986 you right,but buddhism have supernaturality. it appear everywhere on way to enlightenment nirvana. you can see your or other people in any past live you can see everything in mind.
Tanatbenbenpoppop 6 months ago
@Tanatbenbenpoppop yes Buddhism has supernaturality,try telling that to other buddhists in america,the reason we had a misunderstanding is i thought u were trying saying the Lord Buddha was just plaiun human like u or me nothing special,(like most buddhist in america think)here he has ZERO divinity no supernatural,no after life he isnt the higher being to worship,here he just a plain human nothing speacial just human hence our misunderstanding,
Buddhist1986 6 months ago
@Tanatbenbenpoppop just check out a western buddhist website to see how much they have perverted his teachings to make him seem undivine or just a plain person with a good message.if u say u worship the Lord Buddha or the Buddha walked on water or did miracles=AGULIMALA then here u are unbuddhist,talk to enough westerners u will see what i mean,Buddhism here is an atheist nhilist pyhlosophy with Buddha as the higher being DOWNGRADED to mere human like us its sad.
Buddhist1986 6 months ago
@Tanatbenbenpoppop (CONT)in thailand u worship the Lord Buddha as the highest being,in america buddhist ignore the suttas and say the Lord Buddha was Just a plain human like us who taught a good message.when u say the Lord Buddha wasnt a god u mean gods are lower beings who are unenlightened i see what u mean,sadly Buddhism in america took the extreme view of NHILISM and zero supernatual,the buddha here is downgraded to be a "normal person"with a happy mind=nirvana hence the misunderstanding
Buddhist1986 6 months ago
Did you know Jesus NEVER fulfilled anything because the OT was mistranslated on purpose? Your OT is a really BAD version of the Jewish Tanakh. And there is nothing about Jesus in the original Hebrew. Go and get a decent version of the Tanakh .
DarkBeauty1989 8 months ago
This is a huge lie from the pit of hell...don't believe it!!
WarriorCho 8 months ago
@WarriorCho why is it a huge lie from hell?
Buddhist1986 8 months ago
@WarriorCho
I am completely agree.
wt1318 7 months ago
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BURN IN HELL FOREVER OR BELIEVE IN JESUS
fuckmania07 8 months ago
Buddhism is such a beautiful philosophy...makes sense to those who can think for themselves:)
devilman666 9 months ago 7
hahaha!!!! You cannot even compare Lord Buddha"s nail to Jesus. Jesus is nothing compared to Lord Buddha!!!!!
1984JEEN 9 months ago
@1984JEEN This doesn't seem like a very buddhist way of thinking.
scottdsaxton 9 months ago
@scottdsaxton I'm sry if i hurt u. But I jst wanted to say dat how great Lord Buddha is. Lots of Buddhist are silent bcoz they think dat's da best way 2 answer Buddhism related problems.bt I strongly believe dat we Buddhist shd not b silent . we never kill anyone to distribute the religion, and we never will.,but we Buddhist shd not be silent. If you expect me 2 b silent on these types of silly comparison U r wrong my friend. I never wanted to insult any religion. but i'd 2 answer.
1984JEEN 9 months ago 2
@1984JEEN u are correct buddha told us to help others,he also gave us teachings to HELP US,people tend to think idiot compassion is REAL compassion.this is wrong,IDIOT COMPASSION is where u give drug addicts 20 dollars"TO HELP THEM" sorry this isnt helping them and neither is letting people says immoral and hold immoral thoughts and deeds without correcting them for it this doesnt help them,when we see someone walk down a PATH(filled wit ROBBERS) are we GOOD for telling them to get off it?
Buddhist1986 9 months ago
@1984JEEN In fact, reasons for bending the principle of nonviolence were never wanting. There were considerations of a practical nature: when Buddhist Law is threatened, it is necessary to ruthlessly fight the forces of evil. Kill them all, and the Buddha will recognize his own. Murder in this case is piously qualified as "liberation," since the demon, duly killed out of compassion, will be released from its ignorance and can then be reborn under better auspices.
MrTheHyperactive 9 months ago
@MrTheHyperactive well i do beleive in just defense what u are saying is it is wrong to kill a man for fun or out of anger but if u kill a man cause he is holding down a child trying to rape her and u kill him out of compassion and love for the child and to help hewr then this is good.and i think the buddha was born at 1887 bc but i dont think anyone really knows for certain.
Buddhist1986 8 months ago
What about the differences between Buddha and Jesus?
1.Birth - Palace and Stable
2.Status - a Prince and son of a carpenter
3.Transport - Chariot and Mule
4.Dress - superior material and rage
5.Status - honored and persecution
beruangah 10 months ago
@beruangah (1)LOVING KINDNESS Buddha loves all living being Jesus in 1 SAM 15 1-3 SENT men to STAB INFANTS to death :)also u messed up ALL those note the Buddha wsnt BORN gotoma became Buddha later inhis life so the Birth happened under a tree,his status was Buddha,his transport was feet,his dress was RAGS and his STATUS was the 9 PERSECUTIONS,also Buddha wasnt INSECURE like ur deity LEV 24:16 KILL MEN who SPEAK things u dont like,DUET 13:6-18 KILL UNBELEIVERS,sorry cant compare to Buddha.
Buddhist1986 9 months ago
budda suck they used rock or tree to make something like person and they call their god or they parying, fuck budda .
who believe budda , my poops look like budda hair or face, budda people saw my poop and they call their own god or they pray my poops.
i love jesus more
mupoe11 10 months ago
Wow, you are truly ignorant. Congratulations on being an imbecile!!
notngnimer 10 months ago
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@mupoe11 Wow, you are truly ignorant. Congratulations on being an imbecile!!
notngnimer 10 months ago
@mupoe11 is it okay to send men to kill INFANTS cause the parents wronged you? or would consuder this and ORDER from a devil or evil person?
Buddhist1986 10 months ago
@mupoe11 ~~ Wow. That's very Christ-like of you.
pleased9 9 months ago 5
@mupoe11 or poor you. see how much you hate Buddha. Havent your Jesus taught you to respect other religions. I must say you are an expert in poops but not in insulting Buddhism bcoz you missed the point. Buddhism is not God base religion. lol
1984JEEN 9 months ago
Did you know The Buddha Was Not a Historical Person ?
“The historicity of Buddha is accepted by all. But there is no unanimity of the date. In Sri Lanka, 483 BC is accepted as the date of his nirvana while in Burma 544 BC is accepted. In Tibet it is believed to be 835 BC, while in China, 11th century BC is the accepted date. Buddha was an Indian and the Indian Puranic tradition believes that the nirvana took place in 1793 or 1807 BC.
MrTheHyperactive 9 months ago
@mupoe11 Congratulation on being a piece of shit dirtbag. Didn't your mama paid enough attention on you when you're a kid?
777NVN 9 months ago
,Good questions, please note I am NOT a literalist so do not expect me to defend a literal reading of scriputre, we can leave that to the right wing christians :-) OK, When Jesus spoke of Gehenna the folks knew exactly what He was talking about. It was an actual place south of Jerusalem, He never used the word we know as "hell". He also put an end to capital punishment when He commanded those without sin to cast the first stone, new testament teachings make it clear that all are with sin...
1macboo 10 months ago
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The Bible says we have all sinned and fallen short of the glory of God (Rom 3:23) Ever lied, stolen, lusted after a woman, hated someone, taken God's name in vain, etc? If so the Bible says you deserve hell for those sins. (Rom 6:23) But God does not want anyone to go to hell so God became a man (Jesus) and died on the cross for your sins and rose again on the third day. He bore the wrath of God on Himself for you. You must repent (turn away) from sin and trust in Him alone to be saved.
dandan688 10 months ago
Why is it that people of faith,all faiths, show so little respect to other people of faith?
1macboo 10 months ago
Past 6 years i am using bible as a toilet paper
Where is your Holy lord Jesus?
Fool Christians... Prove it.
jonesbondchris 10 months ago
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1macboo 10 months ago
@jonesbondchris Really? As toilet paper?...Ouch..Seems like that would not be very soft. To each his (or her) own. You can either know or believe you can not do both. As a Christian I believe in Christ Jesus as Lord but I can't "know" this...do you understand? If I could "prove it" then my belief would have no meaning. I wish you well on your journey. peace to you.
1macboo 10 months ago
@1macboo you sound like a very peaceful and loving person i dont understand how u can beleive in a religion where its deity sent men to stab infabnts to death in 1 SAM 15:1-3,or to own slaves in lev 25:44-46,and beat those slaves cause they are property EX 21:20-21,or sell ur child as a slave EX 21:7,or kill UNBELEIVERS in DUET 13:6-18,how can a good person like urself except all this immorality and still think ur deity is GOOD OR LOVING i left christianity when i realise that deity was a devil.
Buddhist1986 10 months ago
@Buddhist1986 "To read the Bible without horror, we must undo everything that is tender,sympathizing and benevolent in the heart of man.(T Paine) The OT(old testament)is far different to the NT. The God of the OT is murderous, jealous, vocal, interfering etc.. The God of the New Testament, appears somewhat removed, highly spiritual, peaceful and reasoned. As a Quaker I worship not the OT god whom I believe to be created in the image of the OT writers. I reject "hell" and violence.
1macboo 10 months ago
@1macboo well most the talk about hell came from jesus not the old test the old testament rarely talked about hell but jesus discribed it in clearly,it was also jesus who said beleive in him of u will be sent their for eternity,also read MATT 4:4 and MATT 5:17-19 this shows jesus knew about and supported the old laws in the old test,plus in one verse he rebukes men for NOT stoneing their children and finding ways around gods law,so the new test still conspires with the old.
Buddhist1986 10 months ago
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1macboo 10 months ago
@Buddhist1986 .As a Quaker I read the bible metaphorically so i'm free to look for the larger truth in the message....that said let me exit with this... :-) "Exercise is good for your body, but religion helps you in every way. It promises life now and forever." These words are worthwhile and should not be forgotten. We have put our hope in the living God, who is the Savior of everyone, but especially (meaning NOT exclusively)of those who have faith. 1Tim 4:9-11 Peace!
1macboo 10 months ago
jesus is bad copy of buddha, same as korean is a bad copy of bbile.
mahender6969 11 months ago
@mahender6969 Koreans? North or South? Or does it matter as Koreans from either nation are not great copies of the Bible. You are correct that Jesus is a bad copy of the Buddha because he is nothing like Buddha, thus a bad copy. ;-)
I worship Jesus and respect Buddha. Peace
1macboo 10 months ago
i like Buddah silence on God peopel talk to much out their anus ' the jews named God as Yah wehmeaning ( unknown) unnemable wich is the same unattainable concept so this itself shows how all religionscan be traced to one source..stop typing your bullshiiiii so much 'open your ear s ' your fearing anticrist but you don't listen to truth very well
thenewend2012 11 months ago
@thenewend2012 YAHWEH is the name of God. It came from YHWH, meaning "He Brings Into Existence Whatever Exists." Or it simply means LORD!
So, YHWH = YAHWEH = YAHSHUAH = JESUS = "YAHWEH is Salvation." So, contrary to what you said, God is very knowable. And if you want to know who God is, get to know who His only begotten Son, Jesus of Nazareth, aka, the Christ, is. That's why Jesus came, not only to teach the way to heaven, but to be the only Way to heaven.
KATAERO 11 months ago
@KATAERO i don't even read more than two lines to notice your in a your slave religion. i should even pay mind to your '
thenewend2012 11 months ago
@thenewend2012 Antichrist can only come after the Church is raptured (by God), so why do I have to fear him, because I will be long gone when he shows up.
KATAERO 11 months ago
please digest about history of Buddha before you post it. some of the things are wrong. Buddha never said he would come back as he attained enlightment that means he will never recarnated in any form. he never rises the deads
TheWinterwinds 1 year ago
danke Herr Jesus, dass durch deinen Tod und deine Auferstehung, alle Götzen entmachtet wurden. Herr, setze die Menschen von den bösen Geistern der Lüge frei.
schikamaniestormakanis
JesusZeuge 1 year ago
Praise be the Buddha!
KriztofferKriztenzen 1 year ago
Praise be the Buddha!
KriztofferKriztenzen 1 year ago
jedes Knie muß sich beugen und jeder Mund muß bekennen, dass Jesus Herr ist, auch Buddha und Mohammed
JesusZeuge 1 year ago
@JesusZeuge, Hallelujah!
KATAERO 1 year ago
Buddha ist in der gleichen Reihe von Verführern
Mohammed, Hitler, Stalin usw. usw.
JesusZeuge 1 year ago
your next video should be a slideshow describing a few of the many differences between the two teachers
ayology 1 year ago
I am a Buddhist practitioner for a good while and I've also studied comparative religion and Christians indeed did and do kill in the name of god. I think you should look into things as well. Crusades. Buddha and Jesus were the same. They were human beings who achieved enlightenment and tried to teach others how to get there by their example. Christ was a Jew, not a Christian. That was man made and it was the earliest form of government for the times. I am an atheist. Most Buddhists are.
thubtenwangmo 1 year ago
@thubtenwangmo, what were you before you became a Buddhist?
Did Jesus or any of His disciples kill anyone? In fact, most of them were killed while preaching the Gospel. The crusades (1095-1291) was a response to Muslim invasion into Israel & Europe, fought largely by mercenaries. & remember no one at that time had read the Bible, except the Roman Catholic priests, prior to the Reformation (1517-1648).
(con)
KATAERO 1 year ago
@KATAERO My whole point has nothing to do with whether or not Christ was or wasn't this or that, is or isn't this or that. My point is this vapid exchange and rabid, obsessive defense is the thing of wars and causes of wars. Most wars are about God and the different beliefs. I suggest you worship as you wish, believe in and have faith in what you want and to discontinue this incessant fighting and arguing in the name of Jesus. He wouldn't want it, and He doesn't need it. It doesn't matter.
thubtenwangmo 1 year ago
@thubtenwangmo 1 SAM 15:1-3 jeusus(god)tells men to INTENTIONALY TARGET INFANTS AND STAB THEM TO DEATH.
Buddhist1986 1 year ago
@Buddhist1986 Haha, very funny. If that is true, it's ridiculous...like most of what is in the bible IMO. The only thing which makes sense in the bible are the gospels which teach people how to have charity, compassion and love. Everything else is ridiculous.
thubtenwangmo 1 year ago
@thubtenwangmo the bible says much worse things,what makes me confused is a christian will say its wrong to kill infants and mass murder people and kill gays and kill unbeleivers and own slaves,ITS EVIL AND IMMORAL AND UNJUST THEN when u show them the scriptures that their deity says to do these things all of a sudden its good to do these things as longs as their deity ordered it and their is a reason their PURE deity sent men to slit infants throats,i tell u what it is their brainwashed.
Buddhist1986 1 year ago
@Buddhist1986 Oh I agree. We kill more people on death row here in Texas than any other state. It's a big event. Like blood letting. It's disgusting and very much against the teachings of Christ, who I believe was an enlightened being, much the way Shakyamuni Buddha is. There are many hypocrites from all sides, in all belief systems and of them all, the Christians are the most hateful and violent.
thubtenwangmo 1 year ago
@thubtenwangmo i beleive jesus could have been an enlightened being or close to it i think the pauline sect of christianity is MORE jewish than the original gospels off thomas teachings,i think jesus was trying to change his peoples worship to a buddhist way of life and he was killed for it and his teachings messed with cause if u have read the old test and the new test THEY ARE NOTHING ALIKE jesus went against everything the hebrew god said to do
Buddhist1986 1 year ago
@thubtenwangmo, as I can recall, the War that ends all War, WWI had nothing to do with religions & so was the most deadly & devastating war of all time, WWII.
Hey, who forces you to read my comments? If you don't like it, just don't read or respond to it! I know the truth hurts but it's still the truth, OK? Or do you prefer lies from the Father of all lies? I'm sure you know who I'm referring to.
KATAERO 1 year ago
@KATAERO
The fact is, that Jesus and his disciples were definitely advocates of violence, consider the Temple Tantrum, and the incident with the sword and the ear in the garden...where did the sword come from ? Also Jesus is on record making some very bellicose pronouncements that his later followers used as excuses to murder their fellow humans.
formless777 1 year ago
@formless777 Jesus advocated taking reasonable precaution for self-defense. That's the sword of Peter, presumably, was all about. Jesus told him to drop it & fixed the ear of that temple guard, so the Scripture would be fulfilled. That ear-fixing was the last miracle of Jesus, until His resurrection, recorded in the Bible. So, what kind of a Man was Jesus of Nazareth, aka, the Christ, if He could divinely fix an ear like that? Could Guatama Siddhartha do that?
KATAERO 1 year ago
(con) Jesus rose from the dead & is living today, but Buddha didn't. So what made you believe the two were the same?
Yes, Jesus was born as a Jew, but upon His resurrection, He proved Himself to be the Christ, the Son of the living God. If the 1st Christians weren't the Jews, who else could that be? Christianity was 1st originated in Israel & later spread to Rome, the rest of the world, right? In fact, there're many Messianic Christians (Jewish Christians) living in Israel today. (con)
KATAERO 1 year ago
(con) Buddhists believe in the Law of Karma & Reincarnation, right? If yes, how can there be a Law without the Lawgiver? And how do you know Karma & Reincarnation exists at all?
And finally, do you believe heaven & hell exist, why or why not?
By the way, I'm a former Buddhist (by birth & training) from Thailand, but now a follower of Jesus Christ. Praise the Lord!
Thank you.
KATAERO 1 year ago
@KATAERO I am the lawgiver of my karma. I create the conditions for whatever happens in my life. No outside source is necessary, just as no outside source makes my heart beat. I believe karma and reincarnation exists, it's called con fide. With faith. You cannot prove one way or the other the existence of God, so what is the debate about? I didn't say you should not believe. I simply said this type of hateful bickering in the name of God is what has murdered millions of people for years.
thubtenwangmo 1 year ago
@thubtenwangmo, "I am the lawgiver of my karma...bla, bla , bla," but what if you're wrong? Do you know God love you enough to send His only Son to redeem you?
You're absolutely correct, none of us can prove one way or theother whether God exists or not. That's why we called it Faith. But unlike Buddhism, when you become born again, you will definitely know it that God exists, because His hands will be all over you, to change you to be the person He created you to be.
KATAERO 1 year ago
@thubtenwangmo
What makes you think that Jesus was enlightened ? Surely he was too incoherent, masochistic, and self contradicting ?
Also, the Buddhists hands, while a lot less dirty than the Christians, aren't exactly clean. Have you heard of the Ikko Ikki ?
formless777 1 year ago
Clearly, based on your debate here it is obvious why there are more dead people in the name of "God" than all other disasters on earth. Gee wiz, chill out. You are fighting over Buddha and Jesus? Are you serious?
thubtenwangmo 1 year ago
@thubtenwangmo, unlike the radical Muslims, neither Christians nor Buddhists kill other people so they can go to heaven, OK? So, I hope you'll find out more about the subject matter before you open your mouth & remove all doubts.
KATAERO 1 year ago
yes kataero where are the verses in the pali canon that support prostitution,and abortion?in digha nikaya sutta 2 it actually says ABORTION IS IMMORAL,what about the bible whnat does it say about infants 1 SAM 15:1-3,it looks like buddhas scripture is PURE and the "holy bible" is really filled with evil and immoral laws and teachings,the christian bible tells men to kill gays,kill unbeleivers,own slaves,SACRIFICE THEIR FIRST BORNS TO THEIR DEITY EX 22:28-29 CHRISTIANITY IS EVIL.
Buddhist1986 1 year ago 3
@Buddhist1986, my point is Buddhism doesn't work! And we're no longer in the Law of the OT, since Christ already came & took care of whatever happened there.
KATAERO 1 year ago
@KATAERO THE OT LAW AND WRITTINGS SHOW THAT UR DEITY REALLY ISNT PURE HE WAS JUST LIKE BUDDHA SAID "GODS"WERE, TAINTED NO DIFFERENT THAN HUMANS,UR GOD DID EVIL IMMORAL THINGS NO DIFFERENT THAN A DEVIL
Buddhist1986 1 year ago
@Buddhist1986, you know that God create man in "His image & likeness." So, if you can be emotional sometimes, like love, disappointment, angry, pissed off, etc, why can't God? His emotional range is just off our scale. Can you imagine the same God who nearly wipe out all humanity during the Great Flood, died for your sin on the cross, so your sin can be forgiven. That's how much He loves you.
I think it's about time now you telling me about your definitions of Good & Evil, please.
KATAERO 1 year ago
@KATAERO YES AS U SAY UR DEITY IS NO DIFFERENT THAN MEN,HE IS NOT PURE AND DIVINE LIKE THE BUDDHA,UR GOD IS TAINTED WITH MURDER AND EGO,HOW CAN UR SIN BE ORGIVEN BY A BEING THAT SINS?
evil is something that causes a person suffering and is not helpfull to them,it is hatred,greed,ignorance,not careing for others like u would urself,ask would u want that to be done to u?evil causes more problems than it fixs,evil causes men to do unspeakable things to other men and finds ways to justify itself.
Buddhist1986 1 year ago
@Buddhist1986, you can say whatever you want about Him, but He own all things in the universe He created. So I love to see you standing in His presence & saying that to His face, in your afterlife after you die. Talk is cheap but action is precious, OK?
Do you believe that Satan or the Devil exists?
KATAERO 1 year ago
@KATAERO also jesus NEVER did away with the law,MATT 5:17-19the law will not change till heaven and earth pass,also matt 4:4 FOLLOW EVERY WORD,MATT 23:1-3 whatever the preist bid u concerning the old law U ARE TO DO(but dont be like these preists they preach the old law but dont follow it)ROMANS 3:31 get rid o the law god forbid,MARK 7:1-13 JESUS SAID TO STONE UR CHILDREN AND KEEP THE LAW IN VERSE 9-10 AND TELL MEN TO FOLLOW GODS LAWS NOT MANS.1 JOHN 3:4 SIN IS BREAKING THE LAW SO KEEP THE LAW.
Buddhist1986 1 year ago
@Buddhist1986, exactly, because we can't keep the Law, no matters how hard we try, esp, the Buddhists. That's why He came. By receiving Him into your life, He, not only forgive your sin through His blood shed at the Calvary, but will help you keep the Law through the power of the Holy Spirit in you. Otherwise, how did many criminals, Islamic terrorists, etc, turn their lives around & became Christians?
KATAERO 1 year ago
@KATAERO BUT THE LAW TELLS MEN TO KILL UNBELEIVERS AND KILL AGYS so u can keep the law u just dont want to!WHY?and u said u are saved thru christ thru FAITH well does that mean u can molest children everyday like ur pedophile preists and since u beleive in christ u are SAVED THRU FAITH,so a christian can do what he wants or is he really saved thru his WORKS?seems like u arnt saved by faith unless u think molestors go to heaven and buddhists like me go to hell?ur heaven must be hell.
Buddhist1986 1 year ago
@Buddhist1986, the OT Law applied specifically to the Jews. So, when you read about Jesus Christ, what do you think of Him, since He is the same God of both OT & NT? When a woman caught in adultery was brought to Jesus, what did He do?
Again, what's your definition of a "Christian?" Are the Catholic priests who raped children "Christian?" Tell me why you think they are "Christians," & I'll tell you why they're not. Deal?
KATAERO 1 year ago
@KATAERO yes those preists who raped kids are CHRISTIAN CAUSE THEIR SAVED BY FAITH aint they?the OT law applied to the CHILDREN OF GOD are u a child of god u were actually brought into the law off god REMEMBER jesus didnt do away with the law!and jesus was god of new and old the jesus told men to STAB INFANTS TO DEATH AND STONE ADULTERERS,why would an all knowing being make evil laws just so he would have to change them?A CHRISTIAN IS SOMEONE WHO HAS FAITH IN CHRIST SINCE THAT IS HOW U ARE SAVED
Buddhist1986 1 year ago
@Buddhist1986, about those Catholic priests who raped children, do you know what's in their minds? I think only God can do that.
Did Jesus say "You will know them by their fruits?" (Matt 7:16) He also said "Even so, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit." (Matt 7:17-18)
So, with that in mind, do you believe those Catholic rapists are "good trees?"
KATAERO 1 year ago
(con) Moreover, Jesus said "Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Therefore, by their fruits you will know them." (Matt 7:19-20)
Again, what's your definition of a "Christian," please?
Where did you get that info saying Satan's name is "Jehova?"
Have you heard of "being born again in Christ?" God have to make you a "Christian" & you'll definitely know it once you become born again.
KATAERO 1 year ago
(con) I'm afraid, unless we can clarify the real definition of a "Christian," we're going nowhere here.
So, again, what do you think made a person to be a "Christian?" Does, going to church every Sunday with Bible in hand make you a "Christian?" Let me tell you that it's a lot harder to be a "Christian" than a "Buddhist," talking from my personal experience.
KATAERO 1 year ago
@KATAERO U ARNT A CHRISTIANBY UR WORKS U CANT GET TO HEAVEN BY UR WORKS U CAN ONLY GET TO HEAVEN THRU "FAITH" U SAID IT URSELF,........UNLESS UR NOW SAYING U HAVE TO HAVE WORKS TO GET TO HEAVEN THEN U ARE SAYING A CHRISTIAN ISNT SAVED BY WORKS.
YES I BELEIVE SATAN EXISTS AND HIS NAME IS UR DEITY JEHOVA WHO TELLS MEN TO DO HERENDOUS ACTS OF IMMORALITY,TELL ME WHAT IS THE DIFFENCE BETWEEN UR GOD AND UR SATAN?
Buddhist1986 1 year ago
@Buddhist1986, so do you want to be born again, by receiving Jesus Christ into your life to be your personal Lord & Savior, to be called a child of God & to receive salvation & eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord?
KATAERO 1 year ago
@KATAERO i was once a christian for 13 yrs i left this evil immoral religion,those chatolic preists have FAITH so they are saved correct?unless ur saying ur saved by WORKS?are u saying ur going to kill me cause u are cutting down the fruit that doesnt OBEY? im saying satan,lucifer,bezelbub,is the same as yahweh,jehova,I AM,ur god and ur satan are the same WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN GOD AND SATAN?
Buddhist1986 1 year ago
@Buddhist, were you a Catholic for 13 yrs? Did you read the Bible, at least the NT?
I wouldn't blame you for leaving Catholicism, because I would too. When Jesus said "It is finished" while being hung on the cross at Calvary (John 19:30), all the high priests became unemployed at that instant. & the thick vail in the Jewish Temple was torn in half from top to bottom, signifying from that moment on, man could boldly approach God by faith, covered in the blood of His only begotten Son.
KATAERO 1 year ago
@KATAERO yes ur reiligion is know for human sacrifice,jesus was a human sacrifice,so was jebhothats daughter to ur deity,also the prophet micha thought about sacrificeing his son to god,IT DOESNT HELP UR DEITY ASKED FOR ALL THE FIRST BORN INFANTS TO BE SACRIFICED TO HIM EX 22:28-29 ALSO UR FAITH IS A NOTORIOUS DOOMSDAY CULT,that always WANTS the world to be destroyed and men slaughtered.
Buddhist1986 1 year ago
@Buddhist1986, about jebhothat's daughter, you're dead wrong because God prohibit human sacrifice through OT Law (Deuteronomy 12:31).
Exodus 22:28-29, the word "give" mean "to dedicate or to consecrate" to God for the same reason. Man, your translation is way off, OK?
Peter was crucified upside down (of his own request) about 200 yrs before Roman Catholicism became the state religion of the Roman Empire when the Roman Catholic Church was 1st established. So don't let the pope fool you!
KATAERO 1 year ago
@KATAERO
You are incorrect about human sacrifice in the name of the OT God. It was common, and archaeology from the period suggests that the Jews killed and ate their first born children to honor their god. Later they just burned the bodies like in a holocaust. Eventually, as they stopped being mindless savages and began to become civilized, and parents could offer a sacrifice or payment. God however sacrificed his firstborn child, and his worshipers still eat of him at mass.
formless777 1 year ago
@formless777, "You shall not worship the Lord your God in that way; for every abomination to the Lord which He hates they have done to their gods; for they burn even their sons and daughters in the fire to their gods." (Deuteronomy 12:31)
Come-on, God even provided our perfect Sacrifice, i.e, the Lamb of God who takes away the sins of the world." Got to love God, ha?
Archaeologists can say whatever they want, but I love God & believe His Word in the Bible. Praise Him!
KATAERO 1 year ago
@formless777, it's nice chatting with you.
God bless & please, take care,
Kat.
KATAERO 1 year ago
(con) I still have no ideas how the pope still manages to fool billions of people for all these yrs, that he still have a job as high priest, claiming salvation is only possible through him & his Catholic Church, despite the obvious lack of any biblical supports. He then tries to cover up the unspeakable evil done by those rapists in the Catholic Church. It simply blew my mind.
According to what Jesus said in Matt 7:16-18, no, those raping priests were not His followers (Christians) at all.
KATAERO 1 year ago
@KATAERO christian salvation is only thru the catholic church have u never read the bible or must i have to constantly teach u,u say OBVIOUS LACK OF ANY BIBLICAL SUPPORTS,MATT 16:17-19 upon peter will the church be built,he will be given the keys to the kingdom of heaven,and what ever u bind on earth shall be bound in heaven,and whatever u loose on earth will be loosed in heaven,U DO KNOW THE CATHOLIC CHURCH WAS THE FIRST CHUCH AND MOST CHRISTIANS ARE CATHOLIC HERES UR SUPPORT.
Buddhist1986 1 year ago
@Buddhist1986
Actually the Gospels contains no less than 8 separate statements of what is required of people to earn salvation. Being a member of the Catholic Church is not mentioned amongst them. Do you think Jesus would approve of the Catholic Church ?
formless777 1 year ago
(com) If you read the Book of Acts, you'll know the first Christians were those Jews converted through the Apostles, about 3,000 alone right after the Pentecost (Acts 2:41), through Peter. Christianity spread to Rome through Paul during many of his missionary journeys, before he was execute in Rome.
Well, did the name "Martin Luther" & the Reformation ring a bell? That's how we got back to purity of those early Christian churches in Jerusalem.
KATAERO 1 year ago
(con) Those raping priests may have faith but in the Devil, not Jesus Christ for sure. No, they're not saved & if they don't repent, they will be thrown into the fire (hell) by God (Matt 7:19).
Christians, including myself, are saved by God's grace through faith in His only Son, Jesus Christ.
Jesus' 2 Commandments to all Christians are to love God & to love neighbors as themselves. Therefore, I love Jesus with all my heart, soul, mind & strength, and love you as I love myself. (con)
KATAERO 1 year ago
(con) By the way, Jesus' Greatest Commandments is in Mark 12:30-31. So what made you think I wanted to kill you? If Jesus commands me to love you as I love myself, to kill you is like killing myself, isn't it? Come-on!
God is the "Pruner," not me. He commands me to love you & that what I do, to love you, the same way He loves me, unconditionally.
(con)
KATAERO 1 year ago
@KATAERO DIDNT U SAY U ARE SAVED THRU "FAITH" DONT THESE PREISTS HAVE "FAITH" SO THEY ARE SAVED AND GO TO HEAVEN.ISNT IT U WHO SAID FAITH IS ALL U NEED?
Buddhist1986 1 year ago
@Buddhist1986, Jesus said we would know them by their fruits (Matt 7:20). The fruit of the Spirit are love. joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness & self-control. (Galatians 5:22-23)
So according to the "fruits" of those rapping priests, according to what Jesus said, what made you believe they have faith in Jesus Christ? They may have faith all right, but definitely not in Jesus Christ.
KATAERO 1 year ago
@KATAERO
You raise Matt 7:20 But If we are to know a tree by their fruits, what are the fruits of Christianity ? Murder, atrocities, torture of innocents at the hands of people steeped in this so-called "Gospel of Love". Civilization has never had a greater retardant than Christianity, and that is the true fruit of Jesus' teachings.
formless777 1 year ago
@formless777, can you give me an example of "murder, atrocities, torture of innocents at the hands of people steeped in this-so-called 'Gospel of Love?'" And also "never had a greater retardant than Christianity?"
KATAERO 1 year ago
@KATAERO
Earlier you asked:
"can you give me an example of "murder, atrocities, torture of innocents at the hands of people steeped in this-so-called 'Gospel of Love?'" And also "never had a greater retardant than Christianity?"
So firstly...Yes...the Wars of Religion in Europe.
Secondly, look at how Europe declined from the Late Roman Period until the Early Christian period, all that technical, medical, and scientific knowledge stopped dead until the Renaissance.
formless777 1 year ago
@formless777 Which Wars of Religion in Europe are you talking about?
Do you know whether the Renaissance coincide with the Protestant Reformation?
Thank you so much for your info on the latest Australian flood. However, do you know how long the "Wet Cycle" usually last? And what Australians generally prefer between Wet & Dry?
KATAERO 1 year ago
@KATAERO
The Wars of Religion came after the Renaissance, and do coincide with the Protestant Reformation. They generally cover events such as the 30 years war, the wars in the Netherlands against Spain, and so forth. The period where Christians went around routinely performing atrocities on each other in God's name, lol.
Australia generally prefers the wet cycle, as it means more viable crops. We get about 1/3 wet to dry in a decade, we're a dry continent.
formless777 1 year ago
@formless777 Prior to the Reformation, the Word of God was the best kept secret of the Roman Catholic Church. Only the Catholic priests had access to it. As the Catholic Church became more corrupted, the Word of God was shamelessly altered & exploited for money & power of the Church at the expense of everybody else, esp, the poor. It took a rebellious Catholic monk, named Martin Luther, who put his neck on the line against the Church, in order to bring the Word of God to common people.
KATAERO 1 year ago
@KATAERO
So you justify all the killings by Christians of Christians on the grounds that your imaginary friend told you it is okay ? I despair for you.
formless777 1 year ago
@formless777 How could they be called "Christians" without having access to the Word of God? The monopolistic Catholic Church was calling all the shots with the only goal of enriching itself in mind. Jesus said "You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, soul, mind and strength, and to love your neighbor as yourself." (Luke 10:27) Now, with that in mind, can you tell me whether the atrocities you're talking about was in agreement or conflict with Jesus' own Word?
KATAERO 1 year ago
@formless777 (con) And if they were in direct conflict with the Word of God, how can they be called "Christians?"
KATAERO 1 year ago
@KATAERO this happen in the judea church in the bible the apostle order some to get marrried like Peter call Simon &* other to be celebate it was by will the apostle set it was not by works but by faith , he state if your soul is losing the battle because of sex then you should get marriet once if your soul is winning then you should keep single like Jesus in his honor '
thenewend2012 11 months ago
@formless777 (con) Do you believe the Reformation, when the Word of God became widely available to all common people, was responsible for unleashing the Renaissance, giving people the unprecedented liberty & freedom to revolutionize the culture, esp the art?
And what is your opinion of that daring monk, Martin Luther?
Are you saying that each cycle last about 10 yrs? In dry Southern California, we prefer the wet cycle too. Who doesn't like free water, right? Water is expensive here.
KATAERO 1 year ago
(con) Satan is a fallen chief-angle named Lucifer, who rebelled against God (Isaiah 14:12-14). He said "I will" 5 times, instead of obeying God's will. He simply wanted to be like God, despite being created by Him. In Luck 10:18, God kicked him out of heaven & he fell down to, guess where else? That's how sin first entered the world, from him to Adam & the rest is history (Genesis 3:1-24)
KATAERO 1 year ago
@KATAERO YES BEZELBUB FELL FROM HEAVEN,BUT NOW HERES THE DELIMA THEIR WAS A WAR IN HEAVEN AND PAIN AND SUFFERING THEIR IS FREE WILL TO DO EVIL IN HEAVEN HENCE THE DEVIL CHOSE EVIL,U CAN SIN IN HEAVEN AND GET KICKED OUT OF HEAVEN,JUST LIKE BUDDHA SAID THE HEAVENS ARE NO DIFFERENT THAT EARTH,U CAN >>>SIN<<<< IN HEAVEN JUST LIKE EARTH CAUSE U HAVE FREE WILL.
Buddhist1986 1 year ago
@Buddhist1986
What is the point of capitalizing everything you are typing ? It lends no strength to your argument. It merely makes you seem damaged.
formless777 1 year ago
@Buddhist1986, I'm not familiar with this BEZELBUB guy, but if he is one of those fallen angels who rebelled & sinned against God, he did so with full knowledge of who God is. Therefore, he can't or won't repent. However, man sinned because of his lack of knowledge of who God is. So upon hearing of the Gospel, he can repent if he chooses to & receive salvation & eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.
Buddha was wrong again!
KATAERO 1 year ago
@KATAERO
It is interesting that you raise Isaiah 14:12 where Satan is identified as the Morning Star. Jesus too is identified as the Morning Star in Revelations 22:16. Has it not occurred to you that Jesus is actually Satan ? His teachings were completely at odds with all Jewish teaching that went before him after all...
formless777 1 year ago
@formless777, it's imperative for you to have a reliable translation of the original Hebrew & Greek Bible. I use NKJV.
In Isaiah 14:12, "Lucifer" in Hebrew literally means "Day Star," or the Planet Venus.
In Revelations 22:16, "Bright and Morning Star" means that for Christians, Jesus is the comforting light in a dark world until the dawn of His return (Revelation 2:28).
Glad to be able to clear these up for you.
KATAERO 1 year ago
@KATAERO
So, you have to distinguish between Morning Star and "Bright" Morning Star ? Face facts, Christians are Satanists, and if Jesus was the Son of God, then so was Satan. Jesus broke the covenant while saying he upheld it. and turned the Gentiles against the Jews. Jesus was a "worker of wonders", a false messiah (failed in the 4 tasks of the Messiah) and a false prophet (Jesus' false prophecy Matt 24:29 & 24:34). Jesus was a self confessed bringer of strife.
formless777 1 year ago
@formless, Lucifer (Satan, the Devil, etc) is known as the Father of lies & with good reason, he's been fooling so many people for so long, causing them to miss heaven & end up in hell. So, unless, God is with you, you can hardly know his evil & endless tricks. Satan is also known as "Son of the Morning," so watch out for him & his evil tricks.
If God is the real $100 bill, Satan is the closest counterfeit out there & unless you know what the real thing looks & feels like, you're screwed.
KATAERO 1 year ago
@KATAERO
It is particularly amusing that you claim God is the real $100 bill, when currency has no intrinsic value, it is only the symbolic value that human superimpose on pieces of paper that give it any value at all. How very apt.
I accept the existence of neither God or Satan, they are just silly Jewish folk tales, which only the extremely gullible take seriously.
Science promises nothing and delivers a lot. Religion promises the world and delivers nothing but misery.
formless777 1 year ago
@formless777, about the real $100 bill, do you know what is money or its role in our Economy? If it has no intrinsic value, why do you think the FBI is deadly serious about eliminating the counterfeit money like the fake $100 bill?
"Science promises nothing & delivers a lot?" Really, what about WMDs? You may be right about religion, except Christianity is not a religion but a personal relationship with God through His only Son, Jesus Christ.
KATAERO 1 year ago
@KATAERO
The value of money is symbolic, not actual. If you didn't think other people think it has value, it would have no value and the FBI counterfeit unit would have other tasks to perform.
Even WMDs have had a salutory effect. Consider that WMDs have done a great deal to stop war altogether as most leaders fear the consequences of their use. Now let us consider, a stalker's love affair with a celebrity is more real than your relationship with Jesus and God.
formless777 1 year ago
@formless777, (con) Do you know who said the following?
"Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind."
KATAERO 1 year ago
@KATAERO
Science without religion is freedom, religion without science is slavery.
formless777 1 year ago
@formless777, that's not according to Albert Einstein, my friend!
Symbolic value can't ruin an Economy, but only real value can, by creating inflation. That's why the FBI is deadly serious about eliminating counterfeiting.
The next Middle Eastern conflict may involve the use of nuclear weapons, not to mention another potential one in Korean peninsular. Unlike the WWII or the Cold War when only one or two nations possessed nukes, now many more nations, including the unstable ones have them.
KATAERO 1 year ago
@KATAERO
Who told you Einstein was a theist ? The truth is, he was a Deist not a Theist. He did not accept the notion of a personal god, and only the deranged can make that claim with a straight face.
As to nuclear weapons, apart from WW2 they haven't been used in anger, and the Communist Bloc wasn't particularly stable, nor was the USA under many of it's presidents. Frankly nothing filled me with as much dread as Ronald Reagan declaiming about the coming rapture. Theism is evil.
formless777 1 year ago
@formless7, "Einstein was a theist?" Why not?
"I want to know how God created this world. I am not interested in this or that phenomenon, in the spectrum of this or that element. I want to know His thoughts. The rest are details." (Albert Einstein)
"In view of such harmony in the cosmos which I, with my limited human mind, am able to recognize, there are yet people who say there is no God. But what makes me really angry is that they quote me for support of such views." (Albert Einstein)
KATAERO 1 year ago
@KATAERO
"The word god is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honorable, but still primitive legends which are nevertheless pretty childish. No interpretation no matter how subtle can (for me) change this." -Albert Einstein
"I cannot conceive of a personal God who would directly influence the actions of individuals, or would directly sit in judgment on creatures of his own creation." -Albert Einstein
Deist, not theist.
formless777 1 year ago
@formless777, "In view of such harmony in the cosmos which I, with my limited human mind, am able to recognize, there are yet people who say there is no God. But what makes me really angry is that they quote me for support of such views." (Albert Einstein)
With his own admission, Einstein couldn't wrap his finite mind around the infinite mind of God. In fact, no one can. What we can do is to believe in His Word in the Bible.
KATAERO 1 year ago
@KATAERO
Except that the Bible is conspicuously wrong and can never have been in any way involved with the mind of a universal creator because it doesn't get even basic things about our planet that a real god would know correct.
Einstein was a Deist, not a Theist. There is a huge difference.
formless777 1 year ago
@formless777, will you be kind enough to show me where the Bible was wrong about our planet?
"I want to know how God created this world. I am not interested in this or that phenomenon, in the spectrum of this or that element. I want to know His thoughts. The rest are details." (Albert Einstein)
It looks like Einstein couldn't bring himself to believe in the Word of God, despite of God's marvelous Creation was starring him in the face. (con)
KATAERO 1 year ago
@KATAERO
I am more than happy to demonstrate that the force that directed the writing of the Bible was that of ignorant lying ancient Semites, not a deity who truly constructed the world and understood what it was creating...
Now let's get stuck into the Physics of Genesis...
Firstly, how come in Genesis 1:1, God creates heaven and Earth, but takes until genesis 1:16 to make the Sun and the Moon when we know without doubt that The Earth is the product of material ejected from the Sun ?
formless777 1 year ago
@formless777, in Genesis 1:16, the term for "lights" can mean "luminaries." The word can either designate the son, which emits light, or the moon, which reflects light.
We may be abel to make an educated guess or assume with high degree of certainty how the earth was formed but without direct observation or repeated experiments, we can't never be 100% sure of how it was actually formed. Do you know where the abundant amount of liquid water on earth came from or how the moon was formed?
KATAERO 1 year ago
@KATAERO
You missed the point. We have clear evidence that the bulk of the matter in our solar system was ejected from the Sun. Not only does the Bible tell us that our planet existed before the sun, it tells us that the oceans existed before the Sun, and trees and grasses existed before the Sun. This is completely and provably false. Astronomy has mapped and measured the behavior of stars, of which our Sun is but one, and their life cycles, these things are well understood.
formless777 1 year ago
(con) This can only prove one thing that being a genius doesn't necessarily get one to heaven, although, plenty of geniuses did make it to heaven, like Kepler, Galileo, Newton, Faraday, Pascal, Pasteur, etc.
Geniuses of today like Molecular Geneticist Francis Collins, NASA's Theoretical Physicist Joan Centrella, and etc are well on their way to heaven. I'm just glad that being a genius is not God's only prerequisite for going to heaven. So what can I say other than to love & worship Him.
KATAERO 1 year ago
@KATAERO
Except that believers don't go to heaven, their physical forms are merely recycled by natural processes like everyone elses and you are deluded. Just because you believes something doesn't make it true. Truth is something that can only be established through testing and review of evidence. There is no God, and the Bible proves that God is impossible, as I will demonstrate to you. You will agree that your God is perfect, as He stresses over and over in the Bible ? So no mistakes ?
formless777 1 year ago
(con) I not only believe but know that God exists, is real, is who He said He is in the Bible & Jesus Christ is He. You should know how difficult for someone like me, who was born & raised a Buddhist, to come to believe in Jesus Christ as his personal Lord & Savior.
Yes, I think God is perfect & knows exactly what He's doing. Are you perfect or do you know what you're doing?
If there is no Creator God, then how can the universe come into existence? Can nothing create something from nothing?
KATAERO 1 year ago
@KATAERO
The idea that something can come from nothing is a simple fact in Quantum physics. The observable and necessary fact is, that the natural laws of the universe we inhabit are that subatomic particles randomly pop into existence. If they didn't, movement would be impossible. These entities are called virtual particles. Given therefore that we know particles can appear from nothing, we need no "God explanation", only the physical tendencies that regulate matter.
formless777 1 year ago
@forml, Quantum physics sure is one possible theory, while Stephen Hawking's Singularity is another possible theory, suggesting mathematically that all of the energy & matter in the presumably infinite universe came from absolutely nothing. However, he can't prove the existence of a Creator because of the limit of Mathematics. So I guess only Faith can close that gap from Singularity to the Creator. In short, science can only point the way but will never be able to prove the existence of God.
KATAERO 1 year ago
@KATAERO
I think you've missed the point. You said nothing can come from nothing. I have shown you that such a statement is incorrect. You desperately want to superimpose your God onto a universe that has no place for such a logical aberration. Humans made god, the way humans made Winnie the Pooh, Bugs Bunny, and the Tooth Fairy, each made in the image of humans by humans, but all fictional characters created by imagination and recorded in books a long time ago. No difference.
formless777 1 year ago
@formless777, I don't desperately want to superimpose my God onto a universe at all. All I'm saying is that Science can only suggest or point to certain possible explanations, such as Quantum physic & Stephen Hawking's Singularity.
According to the Bible, God switched on the nuclear fusion process in the Sun after He created Earth. The Sun was part of "heaven," so it must be created first but its nuclear fusion reactor was not yet switched on.
KATAERO 1 year ago
@KATAERO
The problem with your statement regarding your Semitic Sky Tyrant turning on the sun is that he had already created the Earth, and he did that first, and that is temporally and factually incorrect. We KNOW, the sun created the Earth or else the Earth would be older than the Sun, and due to the age of other solar ejecta, and the life cycle stage of the Sun, compared to the age of the Earth, that simply cannot be true. Your God made nothing, you've been lied to.
formless777 1 year ago