Oscar De La Hoya vs Manny Pacquiao Boxing Match HBO Preview

[SoooBlue]

De La Hoya was so far gone in this fight, nowhere near his best.

[geraGRA15]

chinga su madres paquiao cualkier boxedor mexicano le puede ganar a ese

pinche enano pelos en el culo nomas ke le tiene miedo al pacquiao nembre

cualkiera le gana nomass ke sin miedo aka con animo o kon koraje le ganan

[mizzgoku]

pac absolutly dominated dlh head ova heels more tha mw did. its nite & day by how much more pac destroyed dlh than mw did BUT pac fought a 1.5 yr older dlh than mw did.pac fought dlh at 147lbs,mw fought dlh in dlh weight class of 154.pac actually weighed 1 pound more than dlh did on fight nite,dlh was 146 & pac was 147.mw was 150 & dlh was 167 wen they fought.freddy roachused 2 train dlh so he knew his weaknesses.pac is a southpaw.

[tehani99]

floyed maychicken weather will always run from pacquiao,,,lol

[thebigasskilla]

i luv how they contridict themselves but saying oscar was old and deminished...so why fight him hahahahahh

[himynameispaolo]

I highly respect Pacman and Oscar

[2fast2furious97]

It wasn't Oscar day

[emforty2]

.....educate yourself

dont bitch here send your complaints to HBO, WBA, WBO, IBF, IBO, Ring Magzine,

ESPN, etc etc

[thebigasskilla]

U ain't the champ at 130 by beatin Morales right after Raheem beats his ass

U aint the champ at 135 by beatin Diaz

U aint the champ at 140 by beatin Hatton after how bad Floyd changed him (Lascano proved)

U aint the champ at 147 by beatin Cotto(at 145)right after Margarito demolishes him

U aint the champ at 154 by beatin Margarito(at 150)right after Shane exposes him

Declaring Manny the greatest fighter of decade?

EDUCATE YOURSELF, OR FALL VICTIM OF TO PRAPOGANDA

[Lucian86]

@thebigasskilla

So who's the greatest fighter of the decade "smart boy" ?

[RapPwnage]

Oscar was washed up at this point. Still it was a good win for Pacquiao considering his size advantage. Prime Oscar is a whole different matter for Pacquiao.

[chivitajm]

stupid de la hoya didn't gain any weight after the weight in

[Gus589]

one word: FIXED

[jlac2xmglock]

Manny has a good resemblance of Bruce Lee, just the fact Manny moves swiftly just like Lee makes me think he's just alike. After all both are southpaws! Nice.

BTW, Pacman beat the crap out of Margarito so bad, i felt sorry for him even though Margarito did have 6 inch height and a 4 inch reach advantage.

MP is truly the best!

[hatfieldqpgat]

Although Manny Pacquiao went into the fight recognized as the leading pound for pound boxer in the world, some pundits speculated that 147 pounds could have been too far above his natural weight against the larger De La Hoya.

[darkstar123ha]

its all about PACQUIAO

[joewoo127]

Hey Pretty Boy , ya' got your ass kicked by a little guy ! ah ha ha ha ha ha , and you quit ya' PUSSY !

[annacoribioanna]

NO matter how many matches, Pacquio will never get laid as many women as De la Hoya!!!

[annacoribioanna]

Pacquio wins in the Ring, de la HOya wins in the WOMEN. jajaja

[Temoorcoresystem]

teddy atlas just said it all right there, he virtually ran rings around oscar

[Ray0Alien]

a mismatch indeed...

[oasis4ever92]

teddy atlas is a very clever man

[mbrushoff]

The little guy is quick

[weavingspider1]

may weather had a hard time with DeLaHoya bt PACMAN sure didnt...PacMan is guna mop floyd up...many could hit from any angle

[bksfinest16]

does anyone actually believe he will be able to do this things to floyd

[4mirkhan]

high quality oscar training vid on my account, enjoy

[way2cuzzy]

that wasn't de la hoya fighting, that fool didn't throw any punches all night during the fight. that wasn't a fight at all, but the old de la hoya would have been more of a threat

[untilrod]

Oscar should of just retired. BUT NOOOOOO! He continues and fights the greatest fighter.

[TxREX1991]

oscar suits wearing sum fishnet stockings with a thong and only if he had a fat ass but was skinny all over.lol

[DeterminedWiII]

@TxREX1991 You're gay

[w1a1t1c1h5me4]

FUCK, watch SKY movies on

frexis dt com

[RamonMacaso]

Pacquiao will beat Mayweather very easily.

[AliRidah619]

paul williams was wrong manny beat de la hoyas ass

[M3N4C32008]

listen to the song in the background at 00:30 its a wanna be of dr. dre's still d.r.e.

hahaha

[19raymond70]

My Personal Prediction, PACMAN will Knock Out CLOTTEY on the 5th Round!!!

[paolosniper1]

hahahahahaha

[calvpat]

nice one paul  !!!!

[kickboxingfry]

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[GANSTA6033]

@kickboxingfry STFU

[ghenallen]

Who ever made this must really feel stupid right now...

[mrocean21]

Look how wrong they got it, ODH did lose, the bigger man got beat, the fight went the complete opposite way.

[daviduntalan]

i dont see any fault here, just watch again.

[dangazuzu21]

is boxing an immoral sport??

[TheAnjolapresca]

pacquiao killed cotto

[BlueStriker93]

pacman will kill cotto

[assman8830]

Manny Pacquiao isn't small and, skinny like he used to. Mann's body is huge from moving up to 140

[sucksviacom]

to this video...yeah were small n skinny but will knock the fuck out all of you big or small, thats how we do here in philippine island, proud of being pinoy

[luciferianist666]

he did score a knockdown remember?

[deathlord619]

yeah that was the only thing he had the upper hand by, other than that JMM all the way.

[deathlord619]

dude most of the people that talk shit are not even Mexican. Just trolls trying to get attention. When Manny fought oscar i heard a lot of Mexicans say manny is good and that they don't know if he is gonna beat him? Is calling him good not giving him credit? Plus do you honestly hear this from an actual Mexicans mouth? this is the internet, expect people to talk trash and troll.

[Garbulator]

Agreed. Boxing has become a tad racist lately (atleast among fans) I couldn't care less where someone is from.

However I'm just saying it's not the same as if he had beaten a prime Barrera. I mean Spinks and Berbick both beat Ali. How much credit would you give them for that?

[Garbulator]

I'm not really arguing with you man. I agree with you for the most part. Just saying it's not like he fought these guys when they were at their best.

None the less I DO give Manny credit. Promoters set up fights and he wins them. Can't blame the guy for that.

[Garbulator]

De La Hoya, Morales, and Barrera were all at the end of their careers, and Marquez he didn't actually beat.

So while I am not Mexican I can certainly understand their point.

[sgtjoe2008]

if cotto looses too....he's also at the end of his career, i can certainly understand your point

[deathlord619]

No one is making excuses i've heard it from Whites,blacksetc. Oscar was old and he was really skinny if he was at his prime he would have destroyed Pacman. But he wasn't so he got TKOED!

[sgtjoe2008]

if pacman lost, pacman is skinny and too small for oscar.....

[deathlord619]

Na pacman is still in his prime and will be in his prime for many more years. Oscar is 36 years old now Pacman is 30. Also,i agree ,if cotto looses he will be done he hasn't been doing good since he fought Margarito. Another thing Oscar de la hoya is greedy thats why he left boxing he doesn't want it any more he just wants money now. Which is ashame because i think if he really tried he would have most likely made it all 12 rounds but he is just greedy he doesn't love boxing anymore.

[deathlord619]

skinny? he is 3 1/2 inches taller than pacman. But Oscar was way skinny, no man that wears his trunks that high should be aloud to box. He was not at his walking around weight and he even looked sick. If pacman lost i wouldnt make excuses i dont even like Oscar de la hoya he is a greedy son of a bitch. But you can say this and that but if pacman would have fought boxers from like 4 or 5 years ago he wouldn't do as great.

[donkang01]

now you know!!!

pacquiao can beat bigger man like oscar dela hoya!!

^^

[kekevivin]

3:11 that hit is a WOW!!!

[m4rv1ncit0]

r.i.p oscar de la hoya

[tenurus]

I LOVE IT!

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[stdominic3]

I like Manny Pacman coz of his attitude.knowing that his the greatest and the strongest but never did he trash talk other people,never arrogant,always humble a down to earth guy.Hes like a superhero for all i know lol never did he think it was personal but boxing is just a job he must do.Hes always ready to win and ready to loose .Always givin his best for his country.Yeah his an all time great.

[adp023]

PAC FANS, MOSLEY FANS and FLOYD HATERS should BOYCOTT THE JULY 18TH FIGHT!!

This fight is BULLSHIT!! TWO COUNTERPUNCHERS ARE NEVER EXCITING! It's just a MARKETING STRATEGY for Pacquiao-Mayweather!! Mayweather Promotions has contracted with Golden Boy for Floyd's future fights!!

This Fight only fattens the wallets of Floyd and Golden Boy and if the PPV is okay, Floyd will want a BIGGER SHARE than Manny!! LOW PPV NUMBERS FAVOR BOTH MANNY AND SHANE in their PPV split when they face Mayweather.

[shinjev1216]

MORE POWER TO MANNY

[herudarsono]

bruce lee can defeat any big guys

[4u250ut]

@herudarsono I agreed any form of combat its all about speed.power and agility...and of course dont forget brain power..40%skill and 60% knowledge. or is my math wrong?..if so please correct me about the percentage. :)

[teezhen]

They are called boxing heroes, and can also be considered as Heroes as usual cuz they uplift the spirits of every individual whom they affect and inspire!

[parisforbes]

I dont like that manny is called a HERO he is just into sports but doesn't mean any heroes act..its an insult to our national heroes such us JOSE RIZAL and other maybe people champ but not really a hero.

[vertigo501]

i think anyone, like yourself, can become a hero, a national hero even, if you work hard to your full potential no matter what that is, and inspire a nation. Jose Rizal inspired filipinos to do just that, not just to fight independence-- we have been independent for a long time now. there are no more civil wars to fight. we can be heroes in our own way. Jose Rizal will not be insulted at all.

[BestXGrip]

Dude, I just wanted to tell you that if you hadn't notice, the KIND OF HEROES that Rizal belongs to are better not existing in this world. They are PROOF AND EVIDENCE of human hardships and suffering. Since everything works out in the end -and that is a fact-, their emergence is inevitable to right the wrongness in our land. But what if there hadn't been a need for them?

It's just a basic concept of "when there's smoke, there's a fire".

There are no heroes in times peace; think about that.

[macrhianick2]

heroes have different shapes, forms and attitude just like an amoeba like you

[souljapopoy]

dang..

[hujikmn1]

hatton mess up 2 rounds hes knockout the....

i think the next opponent of pacquiao is ...... ahmmm

Floyd Mayweather jr.

[vidiw]

manny have speed and power that can be used to defead bigger opponent, he could fight a heavyweight boxer championship or absolute class divison champion and see who is the winner, does the speed and power can overcome the bigger and stronger opponent. This is happened in the beginning of UFC match.

[Johnrambo2009]

Manny Pacquiao won next fight is Floyd Mayweather

[fearless3geclipse]

Oscar is still my idol. . .man he is and will be one of the greatest, I grew up watching him fight and this fight between him and manny was a total setup. . . Oscar didn't win cause it was all an inside deal . . Its bullshit, he never defended himself , it was basically a fight between a punching bag and manny, not oscar. .

[vsdc626]

he never defended himself if pacman landed all his punches and that is a setup. pacman is just too good for oscar

[prescott7776]

de la hoya is a fucking faggot

[dejavu472]

de la hoya's gonna beat his ass cuz he's too big and too strong!!!!....

oh wait...he didn't.

[ruggedd]

pacman has been fighting since he was 10yo for food if he doesnt win he doesnt eat

[0795665979]

ahhh so u have heard the story about ur generation (rugged) hahaha

[biradortalisahin]

its true it is a miss match heheehe to the pavor of pacman

[PinoyAbnoy]

hatton is from iraq

[donkang01]

abnoy k talaga kupal pa!!!

panu nging taga iraq si hatton e ang puti puti nya!!!

pero nice!!!

hahahaha

[PinoyAbnoy]

LOL merun kasing nag comment na chinese daw si pacquiao. hindi nya siguro masyadong kilala si pacquiao o nanloloko lang siguro. kala nya siguro lahat ny asians ay mukhany intsik. lol

hatton can be a russian or german too. lol

[donkang01]

fuck you my question is how come hatton is from iraq??

then you answer me pacquiao is a chinese?

gong gong abnoy!!!

ttahin kita sa pwet e!!

[PinoyAbnoy]

"fuck you my question is how come hatton is from iraq??"

anak ng.. hindi mo ba naintindihan yung explanation ko?! kaya ko sinabing tiga iraq si hatton kasi merung nagsabi na chinese daw si pacquiao!

madami ding mapuputi sa iraq. i-search mo sa google "iraqi" makikita mo mapuputi na iraqi. you cant tell the difference if they are iraqi, british, russian, german, etc.

[RickyVilla84]

marquez le gano a pacquiao

[mavswegner]

haton pls back off....

fight marquez instead he is esy pay check but fighting pacquiao is like signing a retirement contract

[1098321]

no one can beat lightning speed

the match was like a Thunder (manny pacquiao) vs hammer (de la hoya)

[barcelona187]

de la hoya was fighting like a fukin promoter fuk him

[superpenoy]

very good questions asked in the last part of this video!!

and all of them were answered!!

GO Pacquaio!!!

[eMoloveteen]

es dificil manny porque se fajan y no evaden su empuje explosivo deven ser serteros sus oponentes y repetir minimo 3 golpes iguales de cada mano y puro pedo sii lo noquean animo chavos

[masterjph]

i think pac should fight cotto after hatton so he can get crunched again

[viloloco5]

I don't understand why the fuck they downplay erik morales as  IF! he didn't beat manny the first time around.

[hindigwapo]

In an interview in ESPN Manny made it already clear that he doesn't really want to fight and beat all the Mexican Boxers.

He just want to fight the "ONLY GREAT" mexican fighter of all time......

and that according to him is.....

ZORRO

nothing else

[Thugstainc]

LMFAO! I LOVE IT!

In an interview in ESPN Manny made it already clear that he doesn't really want to fight and beat all the Mexican Boxers.

He just want to fight the "ONLY GREAT" mexican fighter of all time......

and that according to him is.....

ZORRO

nothing else

[paolomarco]

harvest21021982 is stupid because all he wants is to have is name shown on this page clearly he doesnt have any knowlege in boxing..what a human being senseless

[harvest21021982]

manny paquaio is an idol back in his homeland of china,the best chinese fighter since bruce lee

[RIPjones08]

lol he aint chinese. he a better asian race descendent of filipino. pacman would murder bruce lee with his left hands!! pacuaio is a mexican assassin but he got love for mexicans too

[briannn00]

haha chinese

????????? hes a filipino

[ThreeDeadMen]

He is from the Philippines, Moron. Get your Facts straight. Idiot.

[phook85]

LOL!! i hope u r joking!

[A10pilot617]

he isnt from china you dumbass

[harvest21021982]

wheres he from so???

[A10pilot617]

Philippines

[wowpaksiw99]

he aint no chinese!

[medelso1]

fight sold, oscar didnt fight,,, millions,, congratulations pinche puto por desepcionar a tu raza, corrupto

[paolomarco]

manny pac is the 2pac of boxing

[ThreeDeadMen]

dude your a dork! how do you compare a thug to Manny? Manny is a humanitarian, and Shoebox Shakur is a troublemaking thug. Well a dead one at least.

[silv3rjok3r]

"Shoebox Shakur" what the fuck dont even say anything with that lame ass diss. and who the hell cares hes just statin hes opinion

[pattyla192]

PUTO oscar de la hoya arriva CHAVES

[YOMERO1007]

i love philipinas

[babes0098]

the reason why he lose because he is over confidence its not like hes an oracle to say whats the outcome, now he dont knnow what just hit him.haha. "HARD WORK OVERCOMES SKILLS"

[Archiengel]

im glad that Oskie know that MANNY deserve all the CREDIT in the WORLD!

and he said "HE WORKED HARD! HE TRAINED HARD!"

Its a pitty that those oskie fans CANT ACCEPT Defeat! Hey learn from your IDOL!

[BXChamp16]

dlh got destryed but give the guy a brek manny hand really good hand speed anywayz...watch me box 132pounds and he 220 pounds i juz started boxing drop a comment tell me wat ya think

[vincepaulo]

when i saw oscar enter the ring it was already doe for he trained and dieted too much that made his muscles too thin and he was very pale

[thefdt]

Oscar needs to give up the game and retire gracefully, no one wants to see an all time great get his ass handed to him because he's past it.

[blue4cor]

Philippines government officials even attempted to ask NAC that this fight be stopped on grounds of size disparity.

[78795768]

On starry night of May 2, 2009, Ricky is lucky to leave the ring with his HAT on after Manny is done. Once upon a time in medieval England, they just might chop your heads off to end your agony (see the Braveheart movie). However, in the southern Philippines where Manny lives, natives went out to hunt heads once considered a sport. Manny throws punches like he throws darts hitting the bullseye target most times. Good luck to Ricky. And to Manny: Have a happy good head hunting trip!!!

[TylerWieler]

De La Hoya's best years are way behind him, someone NEW needs to step up to the SPOTLIGHT!

[leerobyn01]

it's a mismatch!!!dela hoya got owned....

[elbatorino]

sadly i agree.

[lukdinio]

look at the vids on my page

[eluminated]

I gotta admit, I was rooting for Pacman but was one of those that thought the size difference was gonna be too much. Boy was I wrong! And boy am I glad!

[juan6810]

Oscar is a pussy he quit in the Hopkins fight he quit in this fight,no guts no heart

he's lost to all big name fighters

[MrTrebla]

floyd and de la hoya is a closed fight so that means floyd is just like de la hoya only arrogant and cocky is the defence of floyd that it another mis match for pacman

[MrTrebla]

De la hoya's father just convince him to box but manny run away from his parents house just to box in the ring and cheated his age and weight just to fight a bigger and heavier opponent

[saddulik]

PACMAN THE MEXI-CUTIONER 1.Gabri­­el Mira 04/24/99 KO4 2.Emmanuel Lucero 07/26/03 TKO3 3.Marco Antonio Barrera 11/15/03 TKO11 4.Juan Manuel Marquez 05/08/04 D12 D 5.Hector Velazquez 09/10/05 TKO6 6.Erik Morales 01/21/06 TKO10 7.Oscar Larios 07/02/06 W12 8.Erik Morales 11/18/06 KO3 9.Jorge Solis 04/14/07 KO8 10.Marco Antonio Barrera 10/06/07 W12 11.Juan Manuel Marquez 03/15/08 W12= CANT ACCEPT THE DEFEAT 12. David Diaz 06/28/2008 KO9 13. Oscar dela hoya 12/6/08 KO8 14. Zorro.....

[elsolquema]

ala verg a me acuerdo.

[stoopidadrian]

PACMAN THE MEXI-CUTIONER 1.Gabri­­el Mira 04/24/99 KO4 2.Emmanuel Lucero 07/26/03 TKO3 3.Marco Antonio Barrera 11/15/03 TKO11 4.Juan Manuel Marquez 05/08/04 D12 D 5.Hector Velazquez 09/10/05 TKO6 6.Erik Morales 01/21/06 TKO10 7.Oscar Larios 07/02/06 W12 8.Erik Morales 11/18/06 KO3 9.Jorge Solis 04/14/07 KO8 10.Marco Antonio Barrera 10/06/07 W12 11.Juan Manuel Marquez 03/15/08 W12= CANT ACCEPT THE DEFEAT 12. David Diaz 06/28/2008 KO9 13. Oscar dela hoya 12/6/08 KO8

[Jsoyummy]

im soooo happy pacman won !!!!!

[Thugstainc]

Pac Man was about to turn 30 when he fought oscar and oscar was 35! Age had nothing to do with it! How old was oscar when he fought chavez he was very young! And chavez was what? 40 or something! Do the math a five year difference in age had nothing to do with oscar's lost period! GET OVER IT!

[lixfeorg1]

i want floyd gayweather,jr and Roy gayweather to come out of retirement.. so that manny pacman can knock them both in rd.1 and floyd gayweather in rd 2 and the tough ricky ha2n in rd.3. and my predictions will come out all true!!!

[1990goldenboy]

i dnt lik floyd that much but hes jus too fast n quick for pacman! i would love to see that but dnt get ur hopes up!

[markvincentlabiaga]

"i dnt lik floyd that much but hes jus too fast n quick for pacman! i would love to see that but dnt get ur hopes up"

lol i guess you didnt see the whooping pacman gave to dela hoya then ay.. who was too quick for who then..

[franceee29]

haha you dont no anithing

[lixfeorg1]

manny pacman must fight floyd gayweather jr... it would be an interesting match!!

[ncj25]

does anybody remember julio cesar chavez? he was a old fighter who was the shit for a long time in boxing. a young oscar de la hoya beat the shit out of him and the torch was passed down to a younger better fighter. thats all that happened here. oscar is old and washed up, and mannny is on his way up. still, u cant forget what oscar did in the past. he was a fucking beast in his prime. the sport of boxing is still alive thanks to him. people who dont like boxing will watch because of oscar

[portilop]

i think even if oscar was in his prime manny would beat him but it would be a close match

[Tris450]

Roy Jones!

[filipinofighter1]

Oscar Dela Hoya fought like a real warrior because he accepted defeat compare to Juan Manuel Marquez always made some excuses after the fight. If any mexicans boxer would attempt to fight Manny Pacquiao that would be the end their career. If Margarito would challenge Pacquiao that would be the of his fame because Pacman had a foot work & speed which Margarito doesn't have....

I hope after the fight of Pacman to Ricky Hatton, Gayweather would accept to fight Pacman!!!

[kempaf]

superfight for all the fans who love boxing!!

[PINOYringWARRIORS]

Manny Pacquiao!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[bfc1391]

crossdressing wetback! hahahahahaha!

[duppdipp]

where can i find the full fight?

[kazap1]

I watched of the net. Search for it mate.

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[rgio69]

they fucked him up

[xyryz23]

I'd like to watch the fight of paul william's "the big mouth" vs manny "pacman" pacquiao...

[retne0]

wth...paul williams is 6'1, let williams fight other guys in his own league, not against 5' midget....

Are you crazy? Williams will kill pacquiao, unless of course if williams want to fight at 135 or less then pacquiao will have a better chance....

Either way, if you think that it takes a 6'1 guy to beat a 5'6 guy, then shame on you...how about letting williams fight klitschko instead, maybe you'll see how ridiculous you sound.

[diah4]

de la hoya...You got knocked the fuck out!!! ROFLMAO.

[cruz0048]

is he trying to be so dickhead!!??

how could he do that?! if he thnks he cn serve his country for being part of the election! well, he may think twice he'll regret it in the end!!!!!

(for me) i am very pleased of what he brought to our country,,, I just cnt imagine..

[cruz0048]

americans and mexicans boxers, they were just all the same. SUCKS!!!!!!!

just watch the contrasts. its very obvious that they can't beat the footwork of manny.

most especially his left hand!

[benjieastig29]

pacman will retire jan 2009 so sad

[xbLaCkgOrEx]

talaga?o.O

[rnier72]

really?hahahahahaha poor dela hoya

[swiffstep]

sadly, oscar was the worst of all the mexicans. i dont know how. maybe cuz he became a celebrity fighter. if his trainer didnt throw in the towel he obviously would've got KO'd. i seriously want mexico to come back and atleast go the distance with pacman.

[Thugstainc]

Pac Man is a good sport, after each fights he goes and hug his opponent and show respects!Atleast you speak the truth and is not a sore loser like many of your kind! I understand mexicans have prides as well, but shit why make excuses and can't accept defeat!

[swiffstep]

i aint mexican im flip. although many mexicans are taking this personally bcuz of pacmans streak, which is probably whats creating all the drama. what ppl need to understand is that pacman isnt just flip, hes become the best p4p fighter in boxing today! so its no wonder he took over so fast. it just so happened that mexicans were carryin all the belts when manny came out.

[Thugstainc]

Yeah it seems like it's beyond boxing now because of all the hate thats going on! Pac Man is a great fighter and Freddie Roach is a great trainer and what does that give you? An AWESOME team period! All those fighters he fought are great fighters, but he's just a step a head thats all! And we didn't start this racial issue!

[swiffstep]

i believe manny has an edge on american fighters becuz of his upbringing and experience fighting with other asian boxers. if you watch asian boxers, they fight way different than american style. less toe to toe boxing and more brawling. not to mention manny's improved so dramatically in his latest fights. the guy is just full of surprizes and each boxer realizes that when they fight him!