Lost Soul - The Hidden Law vs Behemoth new song Ov Fire and the Void

[Gastahn]

The main riff on Behemoth's Lucifer (also from Evangelion) sound VERY similar to Ondskapt's Fienden Hungrar (which came from their 2005 album Dödens EVANGELIUM). Listen for yourselves...

But tbh, it really does not matter. The songs by Lost Soul, Behemoth, and Ondskapt are all different and all good. Are some of the riffs similar? Well yeah, but hey, they're not identical.

[dem0noid]

Behemoth has lost its essence. They've stopped playing with their hearts. This is my Opinion. Lost Soul sounds more organic and the Band Members really love what they do. "Immerse In Infinity" is one of the Best Extreme Metal albuns in History. I really respect Nergal and Behemoth but Lost Soul is Incredibly better.

[djpierug1]

Behemoth and Lost soul are from Poland. I find Behemoth is better than Lost soul but Lost soul is also very good.

Polish death metal is the best!

[SanosLegende]

Oh god, he just give tribute to this band, he said he is influenced by them, Dimebag always got some Van Halen stuff in his Solos, and? He just gave Van Halen tribute, because he was so awesome in his opinion.

[AlexanderCzu]

To all pussies who thinks that this is not plagiarism - last when I talked to Jacek about what he thinks about Behemoth and so on he told me he has listened to their song one time ( it was Qadosh he guessed ). Then he said that everything was so fucking cool until he heard his riff and Dezerter's drumms' parts. Behemoth has always been totally 'inspired' by Lost Soul..too bad they fuck up ever riff badly.

[MBishop85]

Lost Soul > Behemoth

[CenTh0r]

For me that's a real plagiarism but the 2 are goods...

Best moment in this song: 1:00 to 1:14

[evolusean]

lost soul sounds pretty cool, ill have to check them out

[turgore]

the intro is similar but th rest of the osng not really

[Behemoth941]

Lost soul sucks and BEHEMOTH kicks ass...The only thing similar is the intro but Behemoth tunes to C# and im sure Lost Soul tunes like 2 steps down...O and Behemoth is a Blackened Death Metal band not just some other Death Metal band.

[VileMisanthropy]

Behemoth even says them selves that people how have that issure with labling their genre "Have problems" and Orion has stated himself "We're just an 'extreme' metal band." The power and intensity is equal to teh value of the importance of the message that song is representing. Nergals biggest influence for all of this is through "The Book Of Law" by Aleister Crowley a very inpereational book full of important messages for mankind.

[darkmoon21]

@Behemoth941 Behemoth and Lost Soul do sound incredibly similar in Behemoth's new style. The only thing that makes them more "blackened" than Lost Soul is that they used to be black metal. You'd have to be a fucking moron to not see that both bands are stylistically similar.

[MadMarv90]

True, but i like theire new style

[maniek1428]

Ale z was cioty !! ;/ juz od razu zerżniete tak siedział i słuchał płyt lost soul zeby znaleźć pomysł !! ; / The race - TOTEMU to może jest prawdziwe The Alchemist dream ??

[thehollow89]

Lost Soul is polish death metal too.

[jacca10]

Check our NEW drummer, cheers.

[halo3x2]

what i learned as a guitarist a long time ago is that every riff has been written they probably like this band and played a riff and said that sounds awesome for some reason

[13thNemesis]

I do agree...

I highly doubt that a band like Behemoth needs to copy songs...

[arekmar666]

no Lost Soul nagralo najlepszą plyte w tym roku , a nergal w tym momencie sporo stracil w moich oczach HAIL

[CurseOfEternalDecay]

Hah, now I'm gonna go buy a few Lost Soul albums. Behemoth has enough money.

[thehollow89]

I doubt either of them have enough money. Death metak bands barely make a living. usually. Behemoth is popular though so my guess is each member makes $100K ish a year averaged out.

[200890c]

plus they'd have alot of expenditure...

[deymos87]

Hehe mam pytanko: czy ktoś zna jeszcze jakieś zrzynki Nergala poza tą tutaj i dziwnym podobieństwem "Be all, end all" Anthraxa do "conquer all"?:D

[AlexanderCzu]

Quiet simillar, aren't they..?

[MortusThrash]

Lost Soul is a great and underrated band. New album is awesome, I like them much more than Behemoth (especially 2 last albums). Jacek Grecki is a big talent (in composing and playing). They deserve to play around the world like Behemoth. Immerse Of Infinity kick ass. Great album.

[DominusTheSpiteful]

Ive loved behemoth always, but i can not pretend like they are not indeed heavily influenced by this band. Infact im going to say i like Lost Souls's version better then Behemoth's version. :( sorry behemoth

[jod4adragonslayer]

i can see wat u mean in the intro but its still not that similar

[WolhamVonWicked]

Great conspiracy theory: Nergal's officially unknown little wannabe brother is part of Lost Soul, and when the song with one of his favourite riffs didn't hit he became so dissappointed that he asked his bro to transfer it into a Behemoth song! I think I got it! :D

[Rivendark]

I dont know the intro sounds little same but the main riff after the intro sounds like slave mix of the songs slaves shall serve and be without fear from behemoth so whis copying who

[DeusExPlexus]

I've listened to both songs thoroughly, Theyre not even similar in the slightest, Even the beginning riff is different, & drastically different lyrics. Both songs are unique. 'NUFF SAID... SLAVES SHALL SERVE!!!

[MetalxHeadxTravis666]

I know that these bands play the same genre of music and in turn will sound the same in some ways, but these songs are just too goddamned similar for it to be a coincidence...

[MetalTakeover]

Millions of riffs and two sound similar. SHOCKING.

[6Mur6Der6]

Rozpierdala w pył \../ Hail LOST SOUL!!

[heheleoe]

guys wtf...there are SO many bands out there...they play the SAME GENRE which means theyll have SIMILAR SOUNDS - doesnt that mean there would be grounds for similarities? everything but the intro sounds completely different anyway!!!!! i dunno wtf people are going on about...lost soul would probably laugh at all of you - if behemoth did take it from this song, im sure lost soul would be proud to say they influenced a mighty band like behemoth.

[jacca10]

that's right, man ;)

[RAGEtakethepowerback]

Wow intestineswallor, why don't you go fuck my grandmother?

Also, please tell me what a douche bag queer is, like what does that even mean?

[gregonamus]

I think it's someone who is gay, yet enjoys inserting themselve inside of infected vaginas in order to administer ointments or tropical creams.

Am I right? I think that I am!

How does your grandmother look? HA HA HA! Kidin, all hailz.

[intestineswallower]

Becuase your grandmother smells like something I would have to dig up to fuck.

[heheleoe]

tbh, who cares. there are many cool sounding guitar riffs etc, and there is no doubt going to be some similarities in music. especially when death metal requires a certain sound in order to be delivered well.

[AtTheGates2099]

Not only did both bands start ardoun the same time,...Behemoth played nothing but black metal for their ep and first 3 albums. LOST SOUL has always been a death metal band and they pioneered this sound and style long before Behemoth tagged along to this bandwagon.

[JudasCradle666]

Slave Shall Serve!!! Lost Soul was FIRST!

[DagonMetalMusic]

It's easy to come up with similar things although it is kinda too closely linked :/

[deth2seesuns]

According to the Metal Archives, both bands, Lost Soul and Behemoth, are from Poland and started around the same time. This song was written in 2005 and "Ov Fire and the Void" was written in 2009. Who's to say Behemoth didn't rip off Lost Soul?

[intestineswallower]

EPIC FAIL

[intestineswallower]

when you rip off a band's sound as much as these guys it should be no shock that there is a similarity in riffs. They try their best to sound like a behemoth song and behemoth songs sound like behemoth. Even the solo is a rip off. These guys suck

[xheldatthegatesx]

your an idiot. this song was made in 2005.. ov fire and the void was made in 2009. whos copying who? read up on things next time before you trash..

[intestineswallower]

Your a douche bag queer, this a shitty band with no sound thats going nowhere the only way they can even drum up listens is by latching on to Behemoth's popularity with stupid accusations and getting lucky by coming up in the related video tab, now the losers , you who want to be hip can say this is the real behemoth even though your shitty replies are more interesting than the lame-o song

[xheldatthegatesx]

wow, im a douche nice name "intestineswallower" do you swallow one intestine or all of them and then just wallow around? yeah fag thats what your name says, if you want to correct it it should be "intestinesswallower. but anyways im not a douche bag queer, this band was started as the same time as behemoth and wrote this song in 2005 and has played the same genre but behemoth switched genres, the guitar from behemoths 2009 song "ov fire and the void" is an exact rip off this. so tell me...

[xheldatthegatesx]

...now fag, who copied who? besides it isnt the first time behemoth has copied a bands song, they try and be all dark and satanic but they are a bunch of song stealing fags. yeah i said it, and i dont even like this lost soul band, i just like pounding it in your face that the band you love sucks DICK. So i ask you, whos the douche bag now? pussy.

[intestineswallower]

your still a douche bag loser you fucking dipshit you can't even defend your stupid crap all you can do is post a lame mind numbingly stupid, "look at your name bullshit" you bitch AT THE GATES is a shitty fucking band that became popular after guitar hero, and you, like this shitty hidden law band latch onto anything popular. I said this band fucking sucks I never proclaimed any butt love for Behemoth you mainstream mall metal loving faggot

[xheldatthegatesx]

yeah because ive had this name all because of guitar hero. im sorry i really dont play that shit so i wouldnt know if at the gates is on it by the way, but apparently you do. and your attacking my name anyways cocksucker. uhh behemoth is pretty mainstream ya dick fuck... and wow you seem to thing im quite scene dont you? and i did defend my shit, your reply actually has nothing about defending what you wrote its all attacking me. pussy. id love to meet in person one day, you act all tough here

[intestineswallower]

You wouldn't know a band's tuning even if they printed it in the liner notes. your a hanger on a little scenster bitch, growing your first head of long hair, non scale playing shit bag can't even trill cock wrangling teenager why don't you have another "sleepover" and prove to you buttfriends how tough your anus is, or maybe you can just sit and watch your bootleg Bruno and weep out you wiener on your dad's highschool yearbook photo. Bitch ass faggot

[xheldatthegatesx]

but your probably 5' 3". im 6' 1" and ive been boxing/kickboxing/judo and soon to be muy thai for a long time, plus il be heading to the special forces in a year. so act tough on the internet while you can pussy. by the way behemoth is a bunch of makeup wearing faggots who dont even believe the things they write. sellouts..

[intestineswallower]

WOW! wear to begin? I'm so fucking scared of you, your a giant! The biggest person in the world, and you play army too! Scary! Everyone knows people join the army for gay sex you dumbass. Muy thai, so how much UFC did you watch before you started "practicing" (and beating off to UFC isn't training) or even knew what muy thai was? your a little punk, a fucking SCENE kid.

[xheldatthegatesx]

MMM, yes i train muy thai because i want to fight in the ufc. or maybe its because im taking a trip around the world to check out different cultures and things huh? but your probably right since you know me so much.. and yeah i play army right? id like you to go up to someone who has been over seas and call them a buttfucking faggot. i dare you pussy. ohh and yes i only know of paul because hes famous and its the trendy scenester thing of me to do by knowing old guitarists so i can argue with pe

[intestineswallower]

. . . you listen to fucking JOB FOR A COWBOY you bitch. Or maybe (insert new hip "underground" deathcore band) when did you even stop wearing pull ups and burning your beloved slipknot shirts? you can play guitar?!! you think you know death metal maybe you should post a new video of yourself playing the most stupid shitty guitar playing. Maybe you should not be so stupid and realize your a gay a bitch and the bands you worship suck.

[xheldatthegatesx]

and do i really listen to job for a cowboy? like do you have my itunes hacked and can see everything i listen to? and uh sorry i dont like slipknot. and yeah i actually play jazz, thrash, classical, and progressive guitar. and im sure i know of more tunings and scales then you can think of. and sorry uhh bands from the 80s suck? guitarists like paul gilbert suck? just because youve never heard of them doesnt mean they suck. plus i dont worship them, dickswallower.

[intestineswallower]

Paul Gilbert (insert: guthrie govan, jack A. Zucker) you do know he is a multi-million dollar recording artist, and one of the most popular guitarists in the world, but thats how you know of him, of course. Do you even have intense rock 1 or 2? I do. Along with speed kills by Angelo Batio, and so many other guitar instructionals, including the scale bible with over 101 diffferent scales, you must know hundreds of scales since you know more than I can even think of.

[xheldatthegatesx]

ople like you online. yes thats the only reason i know of paul. and angelo who? oh wait you mean the guy who plays the double sided guitar, i dont know him, nor do i know vai or satriani or malmsteem. nope im just a poser who cannot play guitar at all. HEY thats soo cool you own those guitar videos and the scale books and stuff, now the question is! Can you play them?! How many years have you been shredding buddy? you a jazz guitarist yet?

[intestineswallower]

As for kicking my ass, we are arguing over the internet miles and miles away tough guy. I didn't mean to hurt your feelings that much, just a little bit. But in reality you are a scrawny punk and I would stomp your faggot ass face into blood. I live in Kennewick Washington and am not going anywhere.

[xheldatthegatesx]

And uhh buddy i already said this whole entire, "your just arguing on the interweb to feel better yadda yadda yadda" shit. i also even said id love to meet you in person and see how much you argue then. and yes stomp my face in, il just lie down and you can stop it in. and yes im soo scrawny, want me to send videos measuring my height,weight,reach,power lifting, benching, boxing, kickboxing, and judo videos? because i certainly can demonstrate them for you if youd like..

[intestineswallower]

Please don't send me any videos of yourself flexing or working out, thats just gross dude.

[xheldatthegatesx]

oh your just a comedian arent ya?

and yeah she does smell quite horrid with all the rotting unclean skin and the cocaine shoved in her nose.

[superfish22]

The intros are really similar, but the rest of the songs are completely different. I had never heard of Lost Soul before, but they're fucking sick. Kinda remind me of a mix between Aeon and Steve Tucker-era Morbid Angel

[BurningTheMasses]

Both songs are fucking good man.

Music inspires music, whether directly, or subconciously.

[brandonvanessa]

damn, this band is fucking awesome!!!!!!

[jacca10]

Jeden z najważniejszych ekstremalnych zespołów w Polsce, wrocławski Lost Soul, podpisał kontrakt w wytwórnią Witching Hour. Umowa obejmuje 2 albumy, a Witching Hour będzie reprezentowała interesy zespołu na całym świecie. Za granicami kraju, albumy dostępne będą w dystrybucji Plastic Head.

[jacca10]

Po czterech latach od wydania „Chaostream (Earache/Empire) Lost Soul powraca na scenę silniejszy niż kiedykolwiek, z nowymi pomysłami i nowym składem. W chwili obecnej trwają ostatnie prace nad czwartą płytą, „Immerse In Infinity, która ukaże się 6 października. W ciągu następnych tygodni zespół zajmie się realizacją teledysku.

[jacca10]

"Blitzkrieg 5: kolejne wieści

W związku z wakacjami uzbierało się trochę nowych wieści, dlatego dzisiaj potężna dawka informacji dla fanów VADER! Zagramy w Warszawie, w zaprzyjaźnionym z nami od dawna klubie Progresja (ul. Kaliskiego 15A). Zapraszamy wszystkich na początek trasy, dnia 29 sierpnia, do klubu Progresja! Obok VADER, MARDUK, ESQARIAL i CHAINSAW zobaczycie również LOST SOUL w nowym składzie, który zagra też w Katowicach."

[deymos87]

Dawno nie było tak dobrej wieści jak powrót LOST SOUL. Z niecierpliwością czekam na album, oby dorównał poprzednim. Pozdro!

[Grimfrosthex69]

Racja, Nergus dał dupska, juz mu pomysłów brakuję, może Doda pomoże teraz, będzie bardziej mrocznie i różowo na nastepnym "death metalowym" albumie, Lost Soul rozpierdala!

[genBolson666]

That's The Spirit !!!

[DeusExPlexus]

SLAVES SHALL SERVE!!!!

[gimbo666]

Try "Be All, End All" by Anthrax and "Conquer All" by behe.

[SeedOfCannibalism]

Well, who really knows? I mean anyone ever notice that Slaves Shall Serve and Behold Judas have similar drums?

[bawstun33]

i think its possible Nergal possibly heard this song and subconciously got the inspiration, ive done it =/

[JustinBaker2567]

nergal probably heard this song and inderectly and unintentionally took inspiration from it

[DeusExPlexus]

Unbelievably insane. These guys are wicked.

[darklegion420]

lost soul sounds pretty amazing never heard of them till now but i must get their albums

[Scarface6664]

Hard to make riffs without them sounding a bit like what someone else has done already ainit?

[93riven]

ojej, ale nowosc, behemoth rznie od innych, no niesamowite...

[covenantfighter]

the intro riff is very similar but after that the hidden law gets a lot faster than ov fire and the void so i dont think its fair to say its a copy or anything

[Xsaintdisgustus]

I don't think they got any inspiration from this band...Behemoth is all original and Nergal makes sure he gets that point acrossed

[ineffige]

lol! original???

[1Bers]

original as in "copying Nile" XD

[twojastara669]

A kto pierwszy użył crowleyowskiego zwrotu naprawdę nie jest istotne.Muzyków należy oceniać pod kątem muzyki.A ta jest ewidetnie zerżnięta-nie tylko wstęp.Trzeba być kurwa głuchym...

[zbysiu666]

Kurwa myslicie, że Nergal po wymysleniu kilkudziesieciu kawałków wcześniej, na 9 płycie behemotha zdecydował się akurat rżnąć z kawałka Lost Soul? Nie umniejszając Lost Soul (jedna z najlepszych polskich kapel death wdg mnie, Grecki przywroc diaboliqua hehe) myślę, że to poprsotu przypadek. A raczej mam nadzieje, ze to przypadek, bo gdyby nergal naprawde go zernal to w chuj bym do niego stracil szacunek.

[Behemoth221192]

to jest przypadek...ile nergal skomponował utworów?? Ponad 100!

Zawsze moze się zdażyć jakieś podobieństwo :P

(pewnie nawet tego utworu nie zna :P)

zresztą tylko początkowe riffy są podobne ...

równie dobrze można powiedzieć że to ze w utworze Lost Soul krzyk 'Slaves Shall Serve" jest zerżnięte z płyty Demigod :P

[Nagrazel]

Dziecko to ty najpierw poszukaj , skad pochodzi fraza sss a dopiero potem zabieraj glos w tej sprawie. z bogiem.

[twojastara669]

Wierzysz w takie 'przypadki'? Trzeba być nastolatkiem zapatrzonym ślepo w swojego idola,żeby pisać takie gówna. Były muzyk LS jest technicznym Behemotha,więc nie ma opcji,żeby Nergal tego nie słyszał.I co z tego,że napisał ok 100 utworów? Nową płytę wydaje Metal Blade, więc lipy być nie może.Nic dziwnego,że 'szukał inspiracji'.Kompozytorem nie jest rewelacyjnym(to,że umie sprzedać swoją muzykę,to co innnego).

[WithFullDistortion]

GREAT Stuff

i learn one entire song of you guys by ear

from CHAOSTREAM album

ill post it once i get a friends guitar tuned to your tune,

Q:)

[Vorthess666]

CO TO KURWA JEST

[Vorthess666]

im fuckin pissed off, polsih band copy another polish band :/ of course nobody will know that nergal isn author of this awesome riffs ;/

[rfecteau]

Wow, the similarity between the intros is hard to miss, but we are talking about two great bands and two great songs - what's the problem?

[nocturnodrummer]

Maybe I'm wrong but why do you in 5:53 put that "slaves shall serve" text? Every people that use brain a little came up with idea that this things have nothing in common. Demigod was realesd in 2004 and Chaostream in 2005. or maybe, LS took some inspiration? Cheers ;)

[nocturnodrummer]

Why did you delete your answer?

[tshajnik]

Because I need to look on cd ;) it was recorded in April 2004 and released in February 2005 \m/

[twojastara669]

This is about similarity between 'The Hidden Law's riffs and riffs in the new Behemoth song.Maybe I'm wrong,but someone should be deaf not to hear it:) Refering to your question: 'Chaostream' was recorded in April 2004 and released in February 2005.

[nocturnodrummer]

you mean riff.. only intro is sort of simmilar. Great idea for promotion Lost Soul \m/

[twojastara669]

You should listen one more time.Drum section is similar to.Great idea of promotion?Maybe,I dont know.But you wouldn't be disconcerted if someone 'borrowed' your idea for the song?

[jacca10]

no comment ;)