I checked these guys out because my friend said my love of Ayreon would attract me to them, and he was right. Great band, and yet another reason why prog is the epitome of music.
I just found out that my Aunt had as miscarriage for the second time. I feel terribly sorry for her. I know how much she and my Uncle want to start a family, but fate just hasn't played into their hands. I'll think of them and of my unborn brother when I listen to this song.
you are mad thats ur opinion LaBrie's tone range and accuracy are alot better , im a big fan of both but this is a fact, just because DT has most of Prog fans doesnt give u the permission to bitch about them saying that there "too popular now" and this band is better learn to listen
Discovered this band last week, this is a SICK song. Except this im more into heavier metal like Iron Maiden, Dark tranquillity or In flames etc. But the list gets bigger every time and PoS + Tool is really starting to grow on me.
Honestly, I'm a great fan of Dream Theater and they were my favourite band of all. I mean, they are gods in the music world. No one can play like them. They were gods to me... until i met Pain of Salvation. Still love DT, though. But PoS conquered my heart like no other band did, except perhaps Led Zeppelin and Jethro Tull. And guys, I'm 40 years old. Just to say that PoS is the best.
@Capitaomac1 Saw PoS last night at HMV Forum and they were absolutely brilliant. Saw DT last year and they weren't. You're just a boy. I'm nearly 52 and my wife says I should grow up.
@baptandrapt Lol, And I thought I was old. That's the spirit. You are one lucky guy. I never had the chance to see PoS in concert. I saw DT twice, though. And both times were excellent. I wish PoS would come to Portugal. There are a lot of fans here, but no cds on the stores. Luckily I bought my whole collection in Luxembourg when I used to live there, except Scarsick and Road Salt I had to order. Don't you ever grow up. Keep annoying that wife of yours, lol. I already scared mine away.
@EnergizerBunny804 I view people who argue about whether DT or PoS is better in the same light that I view people who argue about whether Ke$ha or Nicki Minaj is better.....the latter two are both uninspired dreck, and the former two are both talented and kickass. I don't care which one you like better.
It´ s quiet weird how my old fave prog rockers progress, when i discovered POS, PT, Mastodon and so on they were completely unknown, now even pain of salvation have songs and videos that allmost could fit mtv, only allmost but again it´ s strange to watch! When PT´ s The incident came out i saw it stand as recommendet discs together with ect. Muse and Mika? wtf? :D not to mention crack the skye, and we´ d probably gonna experience close to the same with Roadsalt haha!
My most sincere apologies in that case. It´s just that i can´t stand those freeloaders that download everything, rave about how great the bands are all around the place but don´t own a single original.
Yeah I have all PoS's albums / DVDs except the new EP, the BE album (I kind of want it now - it's soooo much different than the Live version), Remedy Lane (the story is as above) and Scarsick (which I didn't like very much until recently - I like it now, probably going to order it). If we don't support our favorite artists - one day they won't be able to produce transcending music like this - and all you will see are mainstream bands that don't produce good, emotional, real music.
Some of us don't live close to a CD store or are old enough to buy music online... I like this band, but I "freeload" because I am incapable of buying stuff online and the closest CD store is 3 hours away!
But I do buy music when I am in town (like less than half a dousin times a year). Also, CD's cost like 35 $ here in Norway, let alone DVDs.
@sovietchimp First and foremost, I am not a fag. Secondly, if you knew my parents, you would have swallowed those words. I turned 18 four days ago and I'm soon going to get a credit card, then start to buy music.
@sfaune92 Wow, I mean no disrespect to the artists, but have you considered the alternatives? Like Limewire? In your case you could kind of justify it :p
@Arachnidius I do not use LimeWire; the shit brings to much viruses. I actually try to buy much as possible, but I am a student. This album is on my must-buy-pretty-soon-list though.
This song is so cool... Wrinting about loosing a baby? What a concept, lyrics are so powerful and the music fits perfectly!!! Thx Davis for this master piece.. this and Rope ends.. Im thanking you for writing about taboo subjects!!
@guennille This was written about his own wife's miscarrige... so concept is maybe the wrong word. It makes for a more powerful song once you realise who he is actually talking about.
Bands like opeth, mastodon, porcupine tree and particularly Dream Theater are getting very popular because they are prog. I'm a huge fan of all these bands but what I mean is, they were around long time but they are just becoming really popular/except mastodon and they not strictly prog of course.
POS never did a good album, all are masterpieces in their own right. How come stupid british and us metal media disregard them?
I think POS of just too "out there" for lack of a better term. I find, in this day and age, popularity comes with more listeners, and the majority like things simple with a pop edge. Basically POS music is a little more complex than mainstream prog and most can't wrap their head around it.
I don't agree with this. It was like that before. BUT progressive music(or well, complex music) gets a lot of attention lately.Thanks to bands like Mastodon, Porcupine Tree, Opeth, Tool.
DT got themselves mainstream attention today (not during awake or i&w). Same goes for Opeth too.Same situation is with Devin Townsend as well. He didn't get what he deserves yet.
I don't know what to tell ya bro. All I can say is, I hope POS stays unpopular. It seems every band that gets a taste of popularity sells out to some extent and changes their musical style. I loved Awake and I&W but lately DT has become forgettable and boring. Mainstream attention ruins good bands. POS is new and fresh, complex, mysterious, unique. I hope they never change, and if that means never getting the recognition they deserve, so be it, as sad and unfair as that is. Prog on jorninorion!
i don't know if i'd compare mastodon to opeth and that sound. mastodon is much "dryer" in a sense - its just rock. pure metal. the themes and the lyrics are a bit deeper than other metal bands like pantera and such, but the music is pretty straight forward hard rock with crazy kick ass drumming. except for their new album crack the skye. man was that a disappointment
hm..that's odd..i could have swore that when i logged on yesterday i saw "1 comment" and when I checked to see what it was, it was exactly that comment i replied to....hm....
@TheUnbeholden Yes, I was referring to the moments when he does growl-not scream. I wasn't saying that ALL they did was growl. I own all of Opeth's discography. Yeesh...
i think BE is actually a theyre biggest musical accomplishment. The music in that Album/DVD is more meaningfull and emotional than any other music ive ever heard.
@uttfuyrdeytrfuhfuytr You're comparing two totally different genres. Daniel is in a power metal band. Labrie is in a totally different genre. Labrie sings progressive metal, Daniel sings power metal. That's like comparing Albert Einstein to Bill Nye the science guy. Makes no sense, but that's besides the point. Not starting an argument, but my point is you're comparing vocalists from two totally different aspects of music, so of course they're gonna have different sounding vocals and ranges
@Geetman pain of salvation is not a power metal band, every singer have different sounding vocals and ranges even if they are in the same genre, Daniel has a much wider vocal range then Labrie, more raw emotion, more versatility. When i listen to Dream Theater i only hear good music with annoying vocals, a good singer with an annoying voice
@Greensmurf I'd back you up on that. I'm a huge DT fan, but Pain Of Salvation, at least in their stuff from BE and everything before, are far more progressive. But they are two different bands from two different styles within the prog. genre. Eh.
@ConsecratedOblivion I know. I love both as well. I meant in terms of creativity and taking risks to try new things. Depends on what you look for in a band really
dinamic, full of hope in the meaning, idon't know why do you say that. Music have to explain all these things, not only the depressive, dark side of a thing.
Yeah, I can find one gig where daniel sounds like ass too. Look up "Beyond The Pale live" on youtube and go to the "And I remember when you said you'd been under him" section. Probably the worst singing I've ever heard. It actually made me feel embarrassed in my upstairs room while I was alone. I had to turn away.
Then go and search "Dream theater 92" and tell me JLB sounds like a pig
jeje, i was trying to say that james was singing better by the time of six degrees or in train of thought, that in the 90's when his mania of reaching the highest note possible, make him sound like a sacrified pig, forgetting the melodical and beautiful colour of his voice in some aspects. I didn't say that daniel sings better (what is possible but i don't want to make an opinion, because it's trivial)
Technically, DT is stronger than POS, but musically POS is so much better. Their 6 studio albums are all fantastic, DT made 9 albums but just 4 or 5 are really good. DT plays music for technic but POS for emotion !
And you compare the singers, you can see that Dani Gildenlow is so so so so much better than Labrie...
aha if you can't "also" feel the emotional side of DT, nobody can do much about it. They do have super technical and super emotional stuff together. u want proof? just listen the best of times, or the second half of the count of tuscany. i say these because these are proving that DT is "still" fuckin killer emotionally
Dream Theater and Pain of Salvation are different bands. Different. And that's all. As for me, now I do love PoS and just like Dream Theater. Why? Because I discovered Pain of Salvation in certain period of my life, when their music resonated with my thoughts and feelings...
Btw, I wanna visit Dream Theater concert in Moscow, if I could.
Thanks to all of you, sharing my love to this unique formation.
...album and performance. None of this is to say that DT does not have its place in my heart, or in talent, but as a loyal fan to both bands, I cannot place DT or Opeth above PoS in many regards, especially DT currently, although all three are quite amazing. Well, put KansasRushDream. I will clearly be one of the few joining you in turning my head in shame during Rudess' solos this fall.
talented singer and one of the most talented songwriters I have ever heard. He doesn't simply wank around on a Continuum for 15 minutes; instead, he writes balanced, diverse, intense and touching music that pulls and pushes in all the right places, balancing the way a song should. Anyone who has listened to "12:5," PoS's live album, could attest to not just all of their ability as musicians, but as song writers, proved by the feat of rewriting most of their material into a truly touching...
To consider that you are commenting on one of the best lyrical examples of Gildenloew's writing, I am appalled to hear that you think DT is so much better at writing. Have any of you listened to "Be?" It's a story about God finding himself for chrissakes. If anyone has mastered metaphor, symbolism, allegory, etc. (the things that make quality writing meaningful), it is most definitely Gildenloew. As far as being untalented, it would not be a stretch to say that Gildenloew is the most...
we have different tastes is correct, but one thing we have in common, is we like intellectual music not this waterd down shit radio force feeds us. keep prog going strong, whether pos or dt.
Pain of salvation has way to many slow wussy songs, so to say your sick of hearing AA songs im sick of hearing those. they arent painful passionate lyrics because they have basically the same music behind all of those songs.
Really good song, just found this band, lovin' it. Really sad...
Anyone know the movie name?
DGkira 4 weeks ago
this video reminds me of TOOL
yaSso0oR14 1 month ago
2:33 Funk.
25245638 2 months ago in playlist pain of salvation
@TheHikingMule Yea I fucking hate it when people state their opinions on public fourms.
CyanideSovereign 2 months ago
@CyanideSovereign That's your opinion right? Anyone note the hypocritical Irony?
ItsukiMakabe 1 month ago
@ItsukiMakabe That was the point.
CyanideSovereign 1 month ago
One of my fav bands ever. POS is a special cure for my soul. Greatest both. Gildenlow, Hallgren, Langell and mr. Hermansson, my fav POS musician.
davidamarat 2 months ago
I checked these guys out because my friend said my love of Ayreon would attract me to them, and he was right. Great band, and yet another reason why prog is the epitome of music.
HolyDiver97595 2 months ago
This is the first time I have ever listened to POS! Their pretty good.
MrMusicman456 3 months ago
Amasing,and Beautiful.
FireBird773 3 months ago
six stupid bastards
Goenitz69 3 months ago
@Goenitz69 By your reasoning, you are also all kinds of stupid because of the infinite things you happen to not like.
ShredST 3 months ago
2:49 - epic monobrow...
012Hubba 4 months ago
I just found out that my Aunt had as miscarriage for the second time. I feel terribly sorry for her. I know how much she and my Uncle want to start a family, but fate just hasn't played into their hands. I'll think of them and of my unborn brother when I listen to this song.
thefateshavewarned 5 months ago
amazing, my first pain of salvation song... and my favorite! :)
Colbystrns 7 months ago
This might be the best song I've ever heard.
ChapelCollins 9 months ago
whats is the name of the film?
wintersunjari 11 months ago
Did you choose this movie because you can see Salma Hayek nude?
freminick123 11 months ago
@freminick123 Seems like a good enough reason for me.
Zelkiiro 6 months ago
7:20 what a guitar mon i cry with this so beatiful
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djbilly192001 11 months ago
they r like an even more progressive dream theater- jus a brilliant prog metal band
pinksmithfloyd 1 year ago
I love the inclusion of Frida. Genius.
Mellox69 1 year ago
the greatest possible joy turning into the worst disgrace... only who had personally lived it could channel it in such an achingly beautiful song
dalchimsky 1 year ago 4
This song hits you straight in the heart, superb.
SanctuaryDenied 1 year ago
its also volume w/good tone not how much range u got i can sing more range than u and it iwll sound like rats
Raffael900me 1 year ago
its ur preference but for me Labries tone is way better stop argueing against 1 of the greatest Prog bands of all time
Raffael900me 1 year ago
Wow, that was not the same of scarsick at my ears
freminick123 1 year ago
wow, this song is so sad, i hope noone of the band ever had to experience such a tragedy...
SystemOfALeo 1 year ago
@SystemOfALeo unfortunately daniel and her wife..
roby89ssl 11 months ago
you are mad thats ur opinion LaBrie's tone range and accuracy are alot better , im a big fan of both but this is a fact, just because DT has most of Prog fans doesnt give u the permission to bitch about them saying that there "too popular now" and this band is better learn to listen
Raffael900me 1 year ago
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They need to start making Christian music!
Merrittsherman 1 year ago
@Merrittsherman no, they don't.
furedony 1 year ago
Discovered this band last week, this is a SICK song. Except this im more into heavier metal like Iron Maiden, Dark tranquillity or In flames etc. But the list gets bigger every time and PoS + Tool is really starting to grow on me.
Leewander 1 year ago 2
Honestly, I'm a great fan of Dream Theater and they were my favourite band of all. I mean, they are gods in the music world. No one can play like them. They were gods to me... until i met Pain of Salvation. Still love DT, though. But PoS conquered my heart like no other band did, except perhaps Led Zeppelin and Jethro Tull. And guys, I'm 40 years old. Just to say that PoS is the best.
Capitaomac1 1 year ago 4
@Capitaomac1 Saw PoS last night at HMV Forum and they were absolutely brilliant. Saw DT last year and they weren't. You're just a boy. I'm nearly 52 and my wife says I should grow up.
baptandrapt 1 year ago
@baptandrapt Lol, And I thought I was old. That's the spirit. You are one lucky guy. I never had the chance to see PoS in concert. I saw DT twice, though. And both times were excellent. I wish PoS would come to Portugal. There are a lot of fans here, but no cds on the stores. Luckily I bought my whole collection in Luxembourg when I used to live there, except Scarsick and Road Salt I had to order. Don't you ever grow up. Keep annoying that wife of yours, lol. I already scared mine away.
Capitaomac1 1 year ago
I know nobody wants to hear me say this, but this band is so much better than Dream Theater, just saying
EnergizerBunny804 1 year ago 22
@EnergizerBunny804 Blasphemy, this is madness!!
phpeni 1 year ago
@phpeni sorry to say, but it's teh truth
EnergizerBunny804 1 year ago
@EnergizerBunny804 Dude, so true.
JacobSijsma 3 months ago
@EnergizerBunny804 you have balls to say that. I semi agree with you :P
NilReccuring 3 months ago in playlist pain of salvation
@EnergizerBunny804 This sounds nothing like Dream Theater, are you deaf?
hotdog963al 2 months ago
@EnergizerBunny804 I can't enjoy both bands? I love both DT and PoS....
DeathSlain 1 month ago 3
@EnergizerBunny804 Never! :\
25245638 1 month ago
@25245638 Always! :\
EnergizerBunny804 1 month ago
@EnergizerBunny804 Never.
Pridery27 1 month ago in playlist Más videos de Horinf
@EnergizerBunny804 I view people who argue about whether DT or PoS is better in the same light that I view people who argue about whether Ke$ha or Nicki Minaj is better.....the latter two are both uninspired dreck, and the former two are both talented and kickass. I don't care which one you like better.
Caleb9849 3 weeks ago 5
@Caleb9849 well you'll be happy to know that comment was not directed to you
EnergizerBunny804 3 weeks ago
"I Never saw your face, and now you're gone, without a trace. Except the trace of blood that's deeply scarred into my eyes, to fill your place."
xHachirokux 1 year ago
If you feel nothing while listening to any song on this album, seek immediate medical attention.
xFallenRequiem 1 year ago 18
Love the solo <3 ... a great piece, cried and everything the first time I listened to it
johndoe1990 1 year ago
im dissapointed dream theater didnt have PoS on their tour ):
hypnocSlayer 1 year ago
@hypnocSlayer They did the progressive nation tour with Pain of Salvation and Opeth that one time, i'm pretty sure.
EpsilonX 1 year ago
Labrie is a btter singer overall, by far. However, Daniel has more passion in some individual songs like this.
Neueregel 1 year ago
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Great song, thanks for the video
Visit my channel for a song of the new album.
MrLosskingdom 1 year ago
great song.
visit my channel to check a song of the new album
kingdomloss 1 year ago
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The subject matter is why they rarely play it live, shame .
chargrave 1 year ago
The subject matter is why they rarely play it live, shame .
chargrave 1 year ago
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The subject matter is why they rarely play it live, shame as it's so good.
chargrave 1 year ago
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chargrave 1 year ago
Man this shit is awesome. So sad though....
longhairedlarrikin 1 year ago
Epic.
Trustcore 1 year ago
Pure genious!
UnheardFury 1 year ago
It´ s quiet weird how my old fave prog rockers progress, when i discovered POS, PT, Mastodon and so on they were completely unknown, now even pain of salvation have songs and videos that allmost could fit mtv, only allmost but again it´ s strange to watch! When PT´ s The incident came out i saw it stand as recommendet discs together with ect. Muse and Mika? wtf? :D not to mention crack the skye, and we´ d probably gonna experience close to the same with Roadsalt haha!
UnleashedPassion1 1 year ago
@UnleashedPassion1 mastodon is not progressive.its just crack the skye that is..and i don't think it's as good as blood mountain or leviathan.
lillambdevil666 1 year ago
masterpiece.
buchock246 1 year ago 3
Wow, I just realized how depressing this song is.
LeeRLang 1 year ago 2
this song is a masterpiece!
clashwithreality1992 1 year ago
mitt nya favoritband
thebeastfromsweden 2 years ago
vocal lines are ver ARK sounding, whole song sounds like an ARk tune, good stuff.
Laihoistheman 2 years ago
Ark??No way man...
ropends 2 years ago
I couldn't get this song, any way to download it?
thx.
LazyNutcracker 2 years ago
Go buy the album.
Jeez
OjosDeHuever 2 years ago 3
@OjosDeHuever I've had Remedy Lane on order from Amazon since August - I feel that guy's pain - it's just too hard to get good music sometimes.
TheOvermaster 1 year ago
My most sincere apologies in that case. It´s just that i can´t stand those freeloaders that download everything, rave about how great the bands are all around the place but don´t own a single original.
If you like a band, support them!!!
Thanks
OjosDeHuever 1 year ago 3
Yeah I have all PoS's albums / DVDs except the new EP, the BE album (I kind of want it now - it's soooo much different than the Live version), Remedy Lane (the story is as above) and Scarsick (which I didn't like very much until recently - I like it now, probably going to order it). If we don't support our favorite artists - one day they won't be able to produce transcending music like this - and all you will see are mainstream bands that don't produce good, emotional, real music.
TheOvermaster 1 year ago 2
Totally agreed.
As for the PoS albums, Scarsick was quite a dissapointment for me (i like some tracks, though), but BE is godlike!!!
OjosDeHuever 1 year ago
@OjosDeHuever
Some of us don't live close to a CD store or are old enough to buy music online... I like this band, but I "freeload" because I am incapable of buying stuff online and the closest CD store is 3 hours away!
But I do buy music when I am in town (like less than half a dousin times a year). Also, CD's cost like 35 $ here in Norway, let alone DVDs.
sfaune92 1 year ago
@sfaune92 Stop being a cheapskate or get your parents to buy online. It's no excuse for stealing music you fag.
sovietchimp 1 year ago
@sovietchimp First and foremost, I am not a fag. Secondly, if you knew my parents, you would have swallowed those words. I turned 18 four days ago and I'm soon going to get a credit card, then start to buy music.
sfaune92 1 year ago
@sfaune92 Yeah... you're a fag alright.
sovietchimp 1 year ago
@sovietchimp I am not a fag for Christ's sake, and you are a f**king troll!
sfaune92 1 year ago
@sfaune92 Whatever, if I'm a troll then you're a thief. End of, now listen to some music... fag...
sovietchimp 1 year ago
@sfaune92 it's pretty obvious he's a troll. arguing with a troll never works, don't bother lol
EpsilonX 1 year ago
@sfaune92 Damn, i stroll 'round three CD stores each week :S
JujuForTheWin 1 year ago
@JujuForTheWin -- Oh, you're lucky! I envy you; I live on a little island whence the nearest CD store is more than 120 kilometers away.
sfaune92 1 year ago
@sfaune92 Wow, I mean no disrespect to the artists, but have you considered the alternatives? Like Limewire? In your case you could kind of justify it :p
Arachnidius 1 year ago
@Arachnidius I do not use LimeWire; the shit brings to much viruses. I actually try to buy much as possible, but I am a student. This album is on my must-buy-pretty-soon-list though.
sfaune92 1 year ago
This song is so cool... Wrinting about loosing a baby? What a concept, lyrics are so powerful and the music fits perfectly!!! Thx Davis for this master piece.. this and Rope ends.. Im thanking you for writing about taboo subjects!!
guennille 2 years ago 22
@guennille This was written about his own wife's miscarrige... so concept is maybe the wrong word. It makes for a more powerful song once you realise who he is actually talking about.
panneiros 2 years ago 5
@panneiros : i already know that hehe.. i was drunk when i wrote that.. never reread myself .. sorry for that error =) Have yourself a good PoS day
guennille 2 years ago
@guennille :D
panneiros 2 years ago
@guennille his wife had a baby that died. he's not simply writing about taboo subjects. it's much deeper than that.
ianharwood 1 year ago
@guennille Dream Theater's "Goodnight Kiss" is about the same thing. The mother in the song loses her baby and experiences Post-Partum Depression.
diewylis 1 year ago
@diewylis That's great.
way2tehdawn 1 year ago
@guennille yeah thanks Davis, whoever you are
n3v3rd1e 8 months ago
@guennille Err Mate, I believe you mean "Daniel" :)
isciol 6 months ago
they've never played this song live? :S
jpmentol 2 years ago
An amazing song from an amazing album even with the depressing but sensitive lyrics.
chargrave 2 years ago 3
yes,me too.. but its surprising..people are turning to prog without one of the greatest bands ever..
jorninorion 2 years ago 2
li adoro!!!!!!!
nemo990 2 years ago
BE is amazing.
But I am reallllllly suprised to see Pain of Salvation don't get to attention they deserve by the metal auidence. Unbelievable..
jorninorion 2 years ago 3
that's probably because most metal heads just wanna hear 'brutal' screams and such. PoS is prog
Secnateb 2 years ago 2
Of course, that is why i'm surprised.
Bands like opeth, mastodon, porcupine tree and particularly Dream Theater are getting very popular because they are prog. I'm a huge fan of all these bands but what I mean is, they were around long time but they are just becoming really popular/except mastodon and they not strictly prog of course.
POS never did a good album, all are masterpieces in their own right. How come stupid british and us metal media disregard them?
jorninorion 2 years ago
I think POS of just too "out there" for lack of a better term. I find, in this day and age, popularity comes with more listeners, and the majority like things simple with a pop edge. Basically POS music is a little more complex than mainstream prog and most can't wrap their head around it.
dtjesus101 2 years ago 2
I don't agree with this. It was like that before. BUT progressive music(or well, complex music) gets a lot of attention lately.Thanks to bands like Mastodon, Porcupine Tree, Opeth, Tool.
DT got themselves mainstream attention today (not during awake or i&w). Same goes for Opeth too.Same situation is with Devin Townsend as well. He didn't get what he deserves yet.
jorninorion 2 years ago
I don't know what to tell ya bro. All I can say is, I hope POS stays unpopular. It seems every band that gets a taste of popularity sells out to some extent and changes their musical style. I loved Awake and I&W but lately DT has become forgettable and boring. Mainstream attention ruins good bands. POS is new and fresh, complex, mysterious, unique. I hope they never change, and if that means never getting the recognition they deserve, so be it, as sad and unfair as that is. Prog on jorninorion!
dtjesus101 2 years ago
yeah well. in some cases it happens you are right.
I gotta say latest DT is great.
But seeing Devin Townsend and Daniel kinda dissapointed makes me sad. But good news, POS releasing an EP in November!
jorninorion 2 years ago 4
opeth screams quite brutal
...?
knumorvid 2 years ago
sorry i dont remember why you wrote this commnt to me. and yes mikael is great.
jorninorion 2 years ago
Opeth isn't very popular becuase they are prog...they scream brutal screams and gets the metal audience...
and for heaven's sake read for yourself
knumorvid 2 years ago
wrong.opeth, mastodon, porcupine tree are all getting popular BECAUSE the way they approached their music. which is highly influenced by prog rock.
but i agree, brutal vocals add points to bands now..
jorninorion 2 years ago 2
i don't know if i'd compare mastodon to opeth and that sound. mastodon is much "dryer" in a sense - its just rock. pure metal. the themes and the lyrics are a bit deeper than other metal bands like pantera and such, but the music is pretty straight forward hard rock with crazy kick ass drumming. except for their new album crack the skye. man was that a disappointment
jibninja5000 2 years ago
Opeth "growls"; they don't scream
Madhouse255 2 years ago 70
there's no need for you to point that out because that had nothing to do with what i meant with that message
knumorvid 2 years ago
Was I talking to you? No...
Madhouse255 2 years ago
hm..that's odd..i could have swore that when i logged on yesterday i saw "1 comment" and when I checked to see what it was, it was exactly that comment i replied to....hm....
knumorvid 2 years ago
Whoops; wrong person lol my bad...
Madhouse255 2 years ago
@Madhouse255 new opeth album has no growls, now your description is fucked
SRNF 5 months ago
@Madhouse255 ... have you heard of Opeth - Soldier Of Fortune .... his voice is not growling... they can sing very well in some of their songs.
TheUnbeholden 5 months ago
@TheUnbeholden Yes, I was referring to the moments when he does growl-not scream. I wasn't saying that ALL they did was growl. I own all of Opeth's discography. Yeesh...
Madhouse255 5 months ago
What movie are these scenes from?
Pakistexican88x 2 years ago
Frida.
:)
edthehead83 2 years ago
I understand why people don't like BE, but honestly guys, they're allowed to play things other than metal.
Capndroid 2 years ago 6
i think BE is actually a theyre biggest musical accomplishment. The music in that Album/DVD is more meaningfull and emotional than any other music ive ever heard.
KINGOFMETAL767 2 years ago 6
hey, good idea.
ThisMetalHippie 2 years ago
Remedy Lane was my first, listened once (?) and left it for months. Listened again (so so)and then again and it clicked.
They can be a band hard to access but it is worth it.
One Hour By The Concrete Lake to me is second to Remedy. I still dislike Be.
The Acoustic 12.5 is excellent too.
chargrave 2 years ago
Daniel is a lot better than Labrie
uttfuyrdeytrfuhfuytr 2 years ago 27
as much as I love Dream Theater I have to agree with what you said there bout Labrie. Not that I have a prob with him at all.
DiSTANToblivion 2 years ago 2
@uttfuyrdeytrfuhfuytr now he is - but seriously, give Labrie a break, he blew out his vocal chords not once, but twice.
TheOvermaster 1 year ago
@uttfuyrdeytrfuhfuytr doesn't mean that labrie is bad though - it just speaks volumes about how good daniel actually is.
TheOvermaster 1 year ago
@uttfuyrdeytrfuhfuytr
thats right man, LaBrie doesn't fit to DT I think...
crazymaxel 1 year ago
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Geetman 1 year ago
@uttfuyrdeytrfuhfuytr You're comparing two totally different genres. Daniel is in a power metal band. Labrie is in a totally different genre. Labrie sings progressive metal, Daniel sings power metal. That's like comparing Albert Einstein to Bill Nye the science guy. Makes no sense, but that's besides the point. Not starting an argument, but my point is you're comparing vocalists from two totally different aspects of music, so of course they're gonna have different sounding vocals and ranges
Geetman 1 year ago
@Geetman pain of salvation is not a power metal band, every singer have different sounding vocals and ranges even if they are in the same genre, Daniel has a much wider vocal range then Labrie, more raw emotion, more versatility. When i listen to Dream Theater i only hear good music with annoying vocals, a good singer with an annoying voice
uttfuyrdeytrfuhfuytr 1 year ago
@Geetman I don't like to focus on genres too much, but power metal? Seriously?
I would go as far as to say they're even MORE progressive than Dream Theater
Greensmurf 1 year ago
@Greensmurf I'd back you up on that. I'm a huge DT fan, but Pain Of Salvation, at least in their stuff from BE and everything before, are far more progressive. But they are two different bands from two different styles within the prog. genre. Eh.
ConsecratedOblivion 1 year ago
@ConsecratedOblivion I know. I love both as well. I meant in terms of creativity and taking risks to try new things. Depends on what you look for in a band really
Greensmurf 1 year ago
@Geetman you're an idiot.
tehGmoney 1 year ago
@Geetman how is the song you are listening to right now power metal, let alone PoS who are so clearly not power metal it is unbelievable...
What would you consider power metal? I'm actually interested in the psychology behind a mind as destroyed as yours...
TheOvermaster 9 months ago
Never mind, this song started a bit lame but ended up being amazing! o_O! I'll listen to this album!
MikeoWar 2 years ago
dinamic, full of hope in the meaning, idon't know why do you say that. Music have to explain all these things, not only the depressive, dark side of a thing.
cacapatin 2 years ago
If I wanna start listening to PoS, which album should I start with? Remedy Lane?
MikeoWar 2 years ago
Haha just start listening to PoS, don't ask someone else witch album!
simasp93 2 years ago
I would recommend The Perfect Element Pt. I.
TimelessWinter89 2 years ago
Be is one of their best works imo
Ph0enix57 2 years ago 6
maybe The Perfect Element Pt. I and Remedy Lane... but first of all... you must learn to listen with your heart... PoS is pure emotion
jpmentol 2 years ago 2
is clear they have a large difference between Awake and Systematic Chaos. But, do you even know what progressive music means?
they never do the same thing. Thats why they are considered progressive musicians, always trying to innovate :)
raptor092 2 years ago
damn thats the comment i wanted to leave
DreamTheaterPWNS 2 years ago
I vote for Daniel
Eriatarkazenergy 2 years ago 4
Even in the 90's Daniel was better than Labrie ;)
And i think DT actual music is so far from what they did in the 90's, compare Awake and Systematic Chaos there's a huge difference.
A question : from what country are you ?
PainOS33 2 years ago 3
Russia
Horinf 2 years ago
Nope. '92 LaBrie is one of the most amazing singers I've ever seen. Daniel is my favourite now but young LaBrie actually destroys Daniel.
dimedizzle 2 years ago
untuning and screaming like a pig (live in tokyo, and it isn't my opinion, listen to the comentary tracks).
cacapatin 2 years ago
Yeah, I can find one gig where daniel sounds like ass too. Look up "Beyond The Pale live" on youtube and go to the "And I remember when you said you'd been under him" section. Probably the worst singing I've ever heard. It actually made me feel embarrassed in my upstairs room while I was alone. I had to turn away.
Then go and search "Dream theater 92" and tell me JLB sounds like a pig
dimedizzle 2 years ago
jeje, i was trying to say that james was singing better by the time of six degrees or in train of thought, that in the 90's when his mania of reaching the highest note possible, make him sound like a sacrified pig, forgetting the melodical and beautiful colour of his voice in some aspects. I didn't say that daniel sings better (what is possible but i don't want to make an opinion, because it's trivial)
cacapatin 2 years ago
try listening to last dt album. it is amazing. the best of times, thecount of tuscany, wither, the shattered fortress. great work of prog rock.
but yeah, daniel is out of this world.he is a fantastic musician.
jorninorion 2 years ago
ffs. stop arguing, they are two totally different styled singers. both are amazing. so stfu.
HicinPie 2 years ago 2
Technically, DT is stronger than POS, but musically POS is so much better. Their 6 studio albums are all fantastic, DT made 9 albums but just 4 or 5 are really good. DT plays music for technic but POS for emotion !
And you compare the singers, you can see that Dani Gildenlow is so so so so much better than Labrie...
PainOS33 2 years ago
All DT's albums have their selection of great songs.
Granted, some are better than others (Images and Words/Metropolis II) but they are still making great music.
POS are absolutely fantastic, I agree. Better than Labrie vocally? He is now, but back in the early 90's JLB was phenominal.
Walsh213 2 years ago
i'm ok with you, Labrie was a fantastic singer in the 90's, especially in Falling into Infinity (i love Lines in the sand).
But i prefer POS music, i think DT is too "cold" for me (if you understand what i mean).
PainOS33 2 years ago 3
aha if you can't "also" feel the emotional side of DT, nobody can do much about it. They do have super technical and super emotional stuff together. u want proof? just listen the best of times, or the second half of the count of tuscany. i say these because these are proving that DT is "still" fuckin killer emotionally
jorninorion 2 years ago 3
Maybe my favourite POS song (with Beyond the Pale of course) !!!
PainOS33 2 years ago
Beyond the Pale is my fav and then this one. They are so damn good.
Balenciaga37 2 years ago
This is definitely my favourite song on this album... So far, anyway. Just got it yesterday so I may change my mind with more listens...
Valgrindar 2 years ago
Dream Theater and Pain of Salvation are different bands. Different. And that's all. As for me, now I do love PoS and just like Dream Theater. Why? Because I discovered Pain of Salvation in certain period of my life, when their music resonated with my thoughts and feelings...
Btw, I wanna visit Dream Theater concert in Moscow, if I could.
Thanks to all of you, sharing my love to this unique formation.
Horinf 2 years ago 3
...album and performance. None of this is to say that DT does not have its place in my heart, or in talent, but as a loyal fan to both bands, I cannot place DT or Opeth above PoS in many regards, especially DT currently, although all three are quite amazing. Well, put KansasRushDream. I will clearly be one of the few joining you in turning my head in shame during Rudess' solos this fall.
barib74 2 years ago
talented singer and one of the most talented songwriters I have ever heard. He doesn't simply wank around on a Continuum for 15 minutes; instead, he writes balanced, diverse, intense and touching music that pulls and pushes in all the right places, balancing the way a song should. Anyone who has listened to "12:5," PoS's live album, could attest to not just all of their ability as musicians, but as song writers, proved by the feat of rewriting most of their material into a truly touching...
barib74 2 years ago
To consider that you are commenting on one of the best lyrical examples of Gildenloew's writing, I am appalled to hear that you think DT is so much better at writing. Have any of you listened to "Be?" It's a story about God finding himself for chrissakes. If anyone has mastered metaphor, symbolism, allegory, etc. (the things that make quality writing meaningful), it is most definitely Gildenloew. As far as being untalented, it would not be a stretch to say that Gildenloew is the most...
barib74 2 years ago
we have different tastes is correct, but one thing we have in common, is we like intellectual music not this waterd down shit radio force feeds us. keep prog going strong, whether pos or dt.
bdubsg24 2 years ago
What film is this, does anyone know?
cfynes 2 years ago
"Frida"
Horinf 2 years ago
Pain of salvation has way to many slow wussy songs, so to say your sick of hearing AA songs im sick of hearing those. they arent painful passionate lyrics because they have basically the same music behind all of those songs.
bdubsg24 2 years ago
probably the best album ever.....good vid
fallenchild17 2 years ago
i bought the CD and normally i don't buy music but trust me.. it was worth it !
iamastormtrooper 2 years ago
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BLATANT ripoff of Universal Mind - Paradigm Shift
PreHilbert 2 years ago