where in the Philippines I could study the Tridentine Mass? This is the Mass I love. I am lucky now because I could go to Mass here in Santissima Trinita di Pellegrini in Rome. Thanks.
postmoderncatholic: are you a priest or a theologian of some sort? i want to believe you, but there's a gist in that i'd better go and seek advise to the heirarchs, if you know what i mean. no offense talaga bro, peace tayo. pero mejo stubborn lang ako, since i also seek the need to ask the side of the priest that handles the masses i always go to. Shalom masses of Fr. Archie Guiriba is one of them. i'll make it my life's mission to see ans ask them. anyway, thanks for your time and info.:)
The present "hierarchs" of your of the conciliar Church are so opposed to Catholic Tradition. There are Bishops here in the Philippines like that Cardinal Archbishop of Manila, who'd even refuse to obey the Successor of Peter, his superior the Pope to allow traditional Catholics to have the true mass offered within his jurisdiction. Now the question is why entrust yourself to these wolves? Who allow Catholics to join heretics in "praise and worship" yet deny them the true Catholic worship?
It is my advise that you avoid attending such "Masses" and attend a good Novus Ordo Mass; or better yet attend a licit Tridentine Mass which would greatly value your soul and enhance your Catholicism, against the poison of the modern world.
The Mass of Paul VI, is a diminished version of the Traditional Latin Mass, lacking (meaning "less" not empty) of all these essential aspects. Furthermore, your so-called "Charismatic" Mass is NOT, in my opinion, as represented by the GIRM and the official books of the Roman rite, not a licit Paul VI Mass, rather an illicit, abusive rite distorted to give way to personal, individualistic, and subjective whims of the creators of such an abusive service.
True that the Novus Ordo is a valid and licit Catholic Mass. But the superiority of the Tridentine Mass is that it theologically, doctrinally, mystically and liturgically best represents the once-and-for-all sacrifice of Calvary. It organically grown and nurtured through Church History and doctrinal teaching and precision unlike the Novus Ordo, which is an entirely alien development.
may tanong po ako. kasi naka attend ako sa tridentine at pope paul vi mass. i know both masses carry the same purpose (the word and the eucharist), pero mas dama ko ang Panginoon sa porma ng misa ni papa paulo vi (kasi charismatic yung inaatendan kong misa). dapat na ba akong matakot kasi anti-church nako? masaya naman ako sa pagiging katoliko at hindi ko iiwan ang ating relihiyon, pero masama na po ba akong katoliko? hindi ko na po kasi alam kung tama pa ba na sa pope paul vi mass ako umaatend.
Kapatid, there is a great difference between "feeling" the Lord and having the Lord actually and objectively there. Protestants "feel" the Lord in their heretical services, and so do heathens and infidels, but objectively the Lord despises their abominable sacrifices, and would instead have them come to the true religion of Christ and His Church. On the contrary, it is YOUR feeling that should conform to the reality and the objective substance of the truth, and not vice-versa.
Buhay pa ng tunay na SImbahang KAtoliko sa Pilipinas...sana lahat ng pari ay tulad niya, lalong lumalaki ang damage na nagawa ng pangaabuso sa VAtican II, kailangan bumalik sa tradisyon
Sa awa at grasya ng Diyos, ay madaragdagan pa muli ng isa pang Bahay-Sambahan na mag-aalay ng Santa Misa sa pormang Tridentina, sa Saint Jerome Parañaque.
Sana lahat na lang ng simbahan sa Pilipinas, mag misa sa Pormang Tridentina. Sana lahat rin ng mga babaeng magsisimba, bata o matanda, magsuot ng belo.Kahit babae ako, wala akong nakikitang mali doon.
Tama ka kapatid. Ang pagsunod sa mga Tradisyon ng Simbahan ay tanda ng ating pakikipagisa sa mga kapanampalataya ng Bayan ng Diyos. This is the Tradition "handed down" and exemplified by St. Paul in 2 Thess. 2:15, over and against the traditions of men, such as sola scriptura, modernism, ecumenism, liberalism, etc.
Not only that, it also shows that we are in communion with those who once hold (and are still holding) the Catholic faith (e.g. Sts. Augustine, Aquinas, Francis de Assisi, Don Bosco, Maximilian Kolbe, Therese, etc.)The Tridentine Mass is a proof that our Catholic faith goes all the way back from the time of the Apostles, and that the Church we have is in fact the perenial Catholic Church, and not just some anti-Church that spontaneously sprouted in the hippies of the 60's.
sana rin lahat ng pari sa Pilipinas, maging mga tunay na lalaki, maraming Pilipino na kasi ang nagkakaroon ng impresyon sa mga pari na sila ay mga homosexual, yung iba daw, manyak. Sana matigil na ito.
Tama. Dapat talagang ipagdasal natin ang pagbabalik ng Tradisyon. Pero dapat kumilos din tayo. We must demand our Bishops and Priests that they provide us with sound doctrine and sound liturgy.
it was a great experience to attend a traditional latin mass... it hope this is still our mass today..its more solemn anf spirit moving.
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where in the Philippines I could study the Tridentine Mass? This is the Mass I love. I am lucky now because I could go to Mass here in Santissima Trinita di Pellegrini in Rome. Thanks.
fatimajoe 2 years ago
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fatimajoe 2 years ago
Now this is a Mass. I hope our parish would celebrate the Traditional Latin Mass.
bordz120891 2 years ago
postmoderncatholic: are you a priest or a theologian of some sort? i want to believe you, but there's a gist in that i'd better go and seek advise to the heirarchs, if you know what i mean. no offense talaga bro, peace tayo. pero mejo stubborn lang ako, since i also seek the need to ask the side of the priest that handles the masses i always go to. Shalom masses of Fr. Archie Guiriba is one of them. i'll make it my life's mission to see ans ask them. anyway, thanks for your time and info.:)
porkyfish 3 years ago
The present "hierarchs" of your of the conciliar Church are so opposed to Catholic Tradition. There are Bishops here in the Philippines like that Cardinal Archbishop of Manila, who'd even refuse to obey the Successor of Peter, his superior the Pope to allow traditional Catholics to have the true mass offered within his jurisdiction. Now the question is why entrust yourself to these wolves? Who allow Catholics to join heretics in "praise and worship" yet deny them the true Catholic worship?
darkcoven 3 years ago
It is my advise that you avoid attending such "Masses" and attend a good Novus Ordo Mass; or better yet attend a licit Tridentine Mass which would greatly value your soul and enhance your Catholicism, against the poison of the modern world.
postmoderncatholic 3 years ago
The Mass of Paul VI, is a diminished version of the Traditional Latin Mass, lacking (meaning "less" not empty) of all these essential aspects. Furthermore, your so-called "Charismatic" Mass is NOT, in my opinion, as represented by the GIRM and the official books of the Roman rite, not a licit Paul VI Mass, rather an illicit, abusive rite distorted to give way to personal, individualistic, and subjective whims of the creators of such an abusive service.
postmoderncatholic 3 years ago
True that the Novus Ordo is a valid and licit Catholic Mass. But the superiority of the Tridentine Mass is that it theologically, doctrinally, mystically and liturgically best represents the once-and-for-all sacrifice of Calvary. It organically grown and nurtured through Church History and doctrinal teaching and precision unlike the Novus Ordo, which is an entirely alien development.
postmoderncatholic 3 years ago
may tanong po ako. kasi naka attend ako sa tridentine at pope paul vi mass. i know both masses carry the same purpose (the word and the eucharist), pero mas dama ko ang Panginoon sa porma ng misa ni papa paulo vi (kasi charismatic yung inaatendan kong misa). dapat na ba akong matakot kasi anti-church nako? masaya naman ako sa pagiging katoliko at hindi ko iiwan ang ating relihiyon, pero masama na po ba akong katoliko? hindi ko na po kasi alam kung tama pa ba na sa pope paul vi mass ako umaatend.
porkyfish 3 years ago
Kapatid, there is a great difference between "feeling" the Lord and having the Lord actually and objectively there. Protestants "feel" the Lord in their heretical services, and so do heathens and infidels, but objectively the Lord despises their abominable sacrifices, and would instead have them come to the true religion of Christ and His Church. On the contrary, it is YOUR feeling that should conform to the reality and the objective substance of the truth, and not vice-versa.
postmoderncatholic 3 years ago
i hope that our parish priest would celebrate a tridentine mass
JozefDBTC 4 years ago
wer u from bro?
postmoderncatholic 4 years ago
Buhay pa ng tunay na SImbahang KAtoliko sa Pilipinas...sana lahat ng pari ay tulad niya, lalong lumalaki ang damage na nagawa ng pangaabuso sa VAtican II, kailangan bumalik sa tradisyon
spicante 4 years ago
Sa awa at grasya ng Diyos, ay madaragdagan pa muli ng isa pang Bahay-Sambahan na mag-aalay ng Santa Misa sa pormang Tridentina, sa Saint Jerome Parañaque.
postmoderncatholic 4 years ago
Sana lahat na lang ng simbahan sa Pilipinas, mag misa sa Pormang Tridentina. Sana lahat rin ng mga babaeng magsisimba, bata o matanda, magsuot ng belo.Kahit babae ako, wala akong nakikitang mali doon.
spicante 4 years ago
Tama ka kapatid. Ang pagsunod sa mga Tradisyon ng Simbahan ay tanda ng ating pakikipagisa sa mga kapanampalataya ng Bayan ng Diyos. This is the Tradition "handed down" and exemplified by St. Paul in 2 Thess. 2:15, over and against the traditions of men, such as sola scriptura, modernism, ecumenism, liberalism, etc.
darkcoven 4 years ago
Not only that, it also shows that we are in communion with those who once hold (and are still holding) the Catholic faith (e.g. Sts. Augustine, Aquinas, Francis de Assisi, Don Bosco, Maximilian Kolbe, Therese, etc.)The Tridentine Mass is a proof that our Catholic faith goes all the way back from the time of the Apostles, and that the Church we have is in fact the perenial Catholic Church, and not just some anti-Church that spontaneously sprouted in the hippies of the 60's.
postmoderncatholic 4 years ago
sana rin lahat ng pari sa Pilipinas, maging mga tunay na lalaki, maraming Pilipino na kasi ang nagkakaroon ng impresyon sa mga pari na sila ay mga homosexual, yung iba daw, manyak. Sana matigil na ito.
spicante 4 years ago
Tama ka riyan!
carlistafilipino 3 years ago
nice, ipagdasal natin.
spicante 3 years ago
Tama. Dapat talagang ipagdasal natin ang pagbabalik ng Tradisyon. Pero dapat kumilos din tayo. We must demand our Bishops and Priests that they provide us with sound doctrine and sound liturgy.
carlistafilipino 3 years ago
So you roman catholics count other apostles as not relevant or what?
isihija 4 years ago
Nag mimisa na pala si Jojo ng tridentine. Hindi ako nagugulat dyan kasi nuon pa halata na conservative siya.
sisix62 4 years ago