My religion is NFL and NBA. I like to preach Footballism and Basketballism to all the nonbelievers and convert them. And rally the streets singing, "We Are The Champions!"...my friend.
When people say they are, as the gal says at 5:10, "extremely spiritual" which I've been hearing for about 20 years...what do they mean? How does one like her demonstrate spirituality? By saying she is? By meditation?
Thank you for the very insightful video of UU. My questions are answered. UU is a place for confused people who shave their sideburns that do not want to accept the truths of Gods Word: "Do not cut the hair at the sides of your head." Leviticus 19:27 Pitty
@brightwhitelight1 Yes, or at least it will exist wherever someone runs the course. Google "build your own theology Richard Gilbert" -- Gilbert being the author of the book the course is based on. The book is very good and lays out all the belief systems very plainly and helps guide you toward your own belief system.
Thank you for the very insightful video of UU. My questions are answered. UU is a place for the confused gays & lesbians that do not want to accept the truths of Gods Word: "Homosexual acts are an abomination to God." Leviticus 18:22 Pitty
@coastlinehb I am neither "gay" nor "confused" but it is true that I do not accept your very narrow and incomplete reading of the bible. Also, few UU's take the bible as the last word on anything, so quoting it is not going to persuade us of much.
I sure hope you don't eat pork (Lev. 11:7) or crabs and oysters (11:9-12), have sex during your wife's menstruation (15:19), forget to make timely animal sacrifices (4:1-10), trim your beard or hair (19:27), or wear poly/cotton blend clothes (19:19).
Oh, and remember that slavery is okay (25:44-46) and that disabled people are too hated by God to attend services (21:18-23).
Otherwise you'd be a big, flaming hypocrite. Pity.
I sure hope you don't eat pork (Lev. 11:7) or crabs and oysters (11:9-12), have sex during your wife's menstruation (15:19), forget to make timely animal sacrifices (4:1-10), trim your beard or hair (19:27), or wear poly/cotton blend clothes (19:19).
Oh, and remember that slavery is okay (25:44-46) and that disabled people are too hated by God to attend services (21:18-23).
Otherwise you'd be a big, flaming hypocrite. Pity.
@coastlinehb Hm. What a shame. If you believe that, then you still believe that women are of property to men and that children are inferior beings. Also, you misspelled "pity."
@coastlinehb prove all things; hold fast that which is good (1 Thessalonians 5:21). Eat the meat and spit out the bones. Society as you view it is very narrow minded and very conceited. Loose construction of the bible and other religions should be followed. Just as the McCulloch v. Maryland case they argued if the constitution should be more free or more strict. If you broaden your horizon of how you perceive the world you will get better knowledge. If everyone was UU it would be a good World
Do you mean beyond the seven principles? Beyond that, there are many answers. I attend a UU congregation and I am an atheist. There isn't a demand within UU that one unquestioningly adhere to a specific set of beliefs.
Do you mean beyond the seven principles? Beyond that, there are many answers. I attend a UU congregation and I am an atheist. There isn't a demand within UU that one unquestioningly adhere to a specific set of believes.
Well unless you are willing to call the Bible a work of fiction, you will know that Satan does exist and he's deceiving people on this earth right now.
@Indigohue "work of fiction" may be putting it too strongly. It's hard to speak for all UUs, but I would guess that most do not interpret the Bible (and yes, many read it) as an unambiguous and/or unquestionable word of God.
@Indigohue the Bible was written by men, deemed "The Word of God" by a Ceasar and his bishops over a thousand years ago, in a language that has been dead. These MEN decided what IS and what ISN'T the word of God. Who were they? God? No. So does that magically make the Bible the word of God? Only because we say so and because we can find parts of it that are real in today's society.
@TroyBilt007 Each church / congregation / minister will decide how much spirituality there is in the services vs other elements. I would be surprised if a full 80% of the church was GBLT (a recent survey of ours had the number closer to 25%), but I suppose it is possible. Because many believe that GLBT rights are THE civil rights issue the era, and battles are currently being fought in courts and legislatures, it can appear to get more emphasis. But other issues to receive our attention as well.
I'm a UU because I'm scared of committing to any belief system and offending anybody. Instead I prefer to drift in vague platitudes that feel nice but actually make no sense. I also don't want to accept that there is any objective truth.
This UU thing is absolutely fascinating. I've heard the term a few times, but now I know what it is I'm absolutely amazed. Mostly because it seems to be everything and nothing at the same time. It's like life imitating satire. Absolutely brilliant.
Smile love and forgive......Open your eyes. You have been deceived by the dogma of christianity. I have been in your shoes for years and finally broke free of the horrid belief of what the bible and the Church has thrown at people. KNOW where your bible came from . It's not what you think. Then you will truely know how to smile love and forgive. the only devil is ignorance.
smile love and forgive? .... please open your eyes ,,,,and for the first time KNOW where your bible really comes from.....then you will be awake instead of asleep. You have been deceived . I have been in your shoes.
I like it a lot. BUT what is a miracle but possibly a narural phenomena of a different order, so yes of course miracles exist. I went to the syd universalist church and was subjected to a polital diatribe nothing spiritual. perhaps in the US its better and yes I am a believer but reject religious dogma
New-Agesim disguised through some humanistic language and relativistic verbal expressions. JESUS CHRIST is the ONLY way to heaven, dear friends. Unitarianism is of the devil, and, YES, the devil exists and JESUS CHRIST defeated him on the cross and the LORD JESUS CHRIST is coming back to judge the world. REPENT and believe the Gospel and you shall be saved!
See, that's the thing.. Even YOUR view is respected, too! It's great, because you are also accepted and respected for your very strong and solid beliefs!
I want to worship and understand my own truth. I am nervous to join the UU because I am a fiscally conservative republican. I vote for conservatives because I do not believe in big government. I know faith and politics really are not related. After watching this video, I feel ,correct me if I am wrong that I would not be accepted at (this) UU church because I voted for McCain and I do not think Pres Obama is doing good things for this country. I am I way off base here? I hope for some insight
We do have a couple republican-voting members that I know of, but it's true that a vast majority of members at First UU of Baltimore likely voted for Obama, as did the city of Baltimore. If you have principled disagreements with the left on fiscal policy, I doubt any UU would reject you. If you approach spirituality and social issues with a spirit of openness, inclusion, and compassion for others, you will have a lot more in common with UUs than the person you voted for.
Being left or right is all about economic policy. I would think UU is where people would probably agree more on principles of how to treat other people and to follow the principle live and let live.
No you're right. The UU is all about accepting different opinions and questioning each other, and affirming the sense of worth in each person. Nothing to be scared of. You will probably be in the minority politically however
Comment pending approval. Still a little of that (oh were all excepting and kind but don't say anything bad about our religion.)....Yeah um. still haven't quite developed a seance of hummer yet have we...
Hi FactVsReligion: we get some really hateful stuff here that I don't let through. I'm not apologizing for that. As you see in the comments here, civil disagreement does get posted.
As a "Red Letter" Christian I do feel the UU's are a place where I can worship freely. Do i have a different view of jesus than most UU's...Yes. Am i accepted...Yes. Do I accept and love those who think differently from me...Yes. We must learn to love and accept.
I just attended a Unitarian Universalist Fellowship in south carolina today. They have just finished their welcoming congregation training and I have to say I had the greatest feeling of spiritual community that I have ever had off the internet. It was amazing to feel welcomed.
RobinEdgar, I have no clue what you are talking about, but obviously if you have a problem with a particular UU church, you should change, or at least let people know about it and not make sweeping generalizations.
Apologies to those who had to wait weeks for their comments to be approved. A lot of time can go by between comments and sometimes I miss a posting. I wish I could let them go up without approval, but some people write some really awful things that I cannot allow. CIVIL debate is welcome.
I have a difficult time, logically, accepting that many religions and faiths can be true at the same time. That is what I'm getting at. I also believe that if you have Wiccans and Christians worshiping at the same time with the same music and liturgy the contradictions are too numerous to be worshiping at the same time in the same room with the same music and liturgy.
Follow the principle that every person is worthy of life and happiness. That every person should be able to follow their own spiritual path. It does not matter what that spiritual path is if the person is treating other people with respect and doing general postive things.
I understand diversity, but I also believe in logic. Logically not everything that anyone believes can be true. Something is going to be false regardless of how much we would like to be diverse. If a car crashes into another car, we might all have different perspectives of the crash, but the fact is the cars crashed.
apparently, dave..there is not a "right answer". that seems to be the point of the church. each person can have a different answer. At least, thats what I gather. This kind of breaks my heart yet there is alot of truth to it. Jesus was crucified to show his love, yet they dont accept it. I understand their journey though...I really do. Love Wins. Yes. but..it was because of Christ.
billions of people have died for they stood for throughout human history. Jesus was never the only one - nor was what he stood for, the only thing people have died for. there's a reason why they call it -faith- and not -fact-.
Many Unitarians would accept your view, that it was Jesus who made the atonement for us. Yet there are other members who cannot accept that divine love is ultimately shown through Christ. They do not believe that their "salvation" (if they believe there is any, as opposed to eternal damnation) depends on acceptance of Christ. For many Unitarians, God's love and truth can be found in many places, such as in nature, in the writings of philosophers and/or in the teachings of other faith traditions
there's no such thing as a factual answer to questions you mention. humanity has shead it's blood, sweat and tears for thousands of years to not only find these answers but imposing them on others. the faith isn't nessesarily about finding answers or imposing them on others. it's the opposite. it's about respecting the mystery and the individual freedom of belief.
there's no such thing as a factual answer to the questions you mention. humans have shead blood, sweat and tears for thousands of years trying to find those answers and impose them on others. we're not about that. infact, we're just the opposite. we're about respecting the mystery and the indidvidual freedom of belief.
Too many contradictions. Example: Unitarian Universalism emphasizes everyone's inner-light. What if I worship darkness? I mean that's ok. And though you may challenge my belief... I still believe it. But now I have a contradiction to what I "believe". So do we really get better or we just get more confused? Or do we keep adding everyone's opinions to our own way of thinking so we have such a mass of contradictions we have no idea even if a wall exists of if pain is real.
amazedcreation: I'm not sure what you mean by worshiping darkness, however we do have our 7 core principles that help guide us. I would say that if you disagree strongly with any of them, then you are not really a UU. You might find it hard to both worship "darkness" and follow those principles at the same time. You would still need to use reason to cut through such contradictions.
I love that unitarian universalists not only try to understand one another, but try to help one another understand themselves, and really, and I mean really try to let them be their own individual person. UUism allows people to live the best part of themself, and focus on what's really important to them in life. We discover together individually, how we want to live our life.
Thanks for posting this RudyWaltz, let the world know who and why we are =)
well according to my Satanist UU - friend that wouldn't be a bad thing. XD
but for thousands of years, your dogmatic approach to faith has killed more people than anything else in human history. christian's themselves experienced it.
we're people who've learned our lesson. i think it's about time we have a shot at it ya?
I just watched the Betty Butterfield video about UU. It's kind of funny. I saw a funnier, but similar roast of UU at a UU church. They do seem to have a good sense of humor about themselves.
I suggest that you look a bit more closely at what is now called U*Uism before you say, "I wish the whole world was Unitarian." BTW Like other religions, what U*Us claim in their propaganda and promotional materials and how they actually behave can be two very different things. The U*Us I know have made a total mockery of what these U*Us are claiming.
That's the wonderful thing about UUism...You shape your own beliefs. We're not committed to just following one set of beliefs...I myself pull beliefs from Buddha, Christianity, and Islam.
I've read your comments. Anyone who professes to live the seven UU principles to the best of their ability would not censor you. As a "Cradle Presbyterian" of many generations I was proud of Chicago First Pres and its compassion and actions, 1950s on. I attended Presbyterian schools and could not accept the fantasies and convoluted Bible(knowing how it came to be) Everywhere, people do not measure up to stated principles.UUs are human, but most TRY.
So I have lost faith in Catholicism completely. I am now bordering on Atheism, but this video really touched me. I work on Sundays so it is difficult for me to go to services. But UUA just seems amazing!
I am sorry you may have had a bad experience with UUA, but again as a former CATHOLIC! I can't even compare the two. My priest was beyond corrupt, I suffered abuse at my Catholic school, they told us not to even be friends with non-catholics, and that even our thoughts would cause us to burn in hell! Fear, Fear, Fear, and more Fear mixed with some guilt. Don't like UUA find another church its a free country.
Absolutely. I can be very specific about quite a number of examples of U*U injustices, abuses and hypocrisy. I can offer plenty of substantiated facts along with no shortage to context. Just Google - "Robin Edgar" and Unitarian hypocrisy - to find out more than you might want to know about U*U hypocrisy.
Thanks, RobinEdgar, your site makes for an interesting (though sometimes confusing) read. All I can say is that the folks in this video and who attend this church constantly strive to put UU principles into practice. Those principles are tested all the time and yes, I'm sure sometimes we fall short. But one beauty of the UU church is that any potential hypocrisy can be challenged from within and rarely stands for long.
Thanks for being a good sport Rudy for, so far. . . not censoring any of my criticism of U*U hypocrisy etc. Your openness to my criticism is most appreciated. A lot of other U*Us would have censored it. Best Regards, Robin Edgar
Robin, I have read your discussion. I am sorry, simply put, you just don't get it. You aren't required to understand it, because if you did, you'd be at peace and you would realize you'd be a UU, just as others have. Our faith shouldn't take away from yours, if you are at peace with your chosen faith.
My religion is NFL and NBA. I like to preach Footballism and Basketballism to all the nonbelievers and convert them. And rally the streets singing, "We Are The Champions!"...my friend.
indravideos 5 months ago
When people say they are, as the gal says at 5:10, "extremely spiritual" which I've been hearing for about 20 years...what do they mean? How does one like her demonstrate spirituality? By saying she is? By meditation?
Just curious.
ScottMacFie 6 months ago
Thank you for the very insightful video of UU. My questions are answered. UU is a place for confused people who shave their sideburns that do not want to accept the truths of Gods Word: "Do not cut the hair at the sides of your head." Leviticus 19:27 Pitty
NobleHam 8 months ago
first front against extremist
peacefuldiana 9 months ago in playlist Unitarian Universalist
Does Building your own theoloy course still exist???
brightwhitelight1 10 months ago
@brightwhitelight1 Yes, or at least it will exist wherever someone runs the course. Google "build your own theology Richard Gilbert" -- Gilbert being the author of the book the course is based on. The book is very good and lays out all the belief systems very plainly and helps guide you toward your own belief system.
rudywaltz 10 months ago
Thank you for the very insightful video of UU. My questions are answered. UU is a place for the confused gays & lesbians that do not want to accept the truths of Gods Word: "Homosexual acts are an abomination to God." Leviticus 18:22 Pitty
coastlinehb 1 year ago
@coastlinehb I am neither "gay" nor "confused" but it is true that I do not accept your very narrow and incomplete reading of the bible. Also, few UU's take the bible as the last word on anything, so quoting it is not going to persuade us of much.
rudywaltz 1 year ago 8
Shut up you Homophobic idiot@coastlinehb
bryanpeace121 10 months ago
@coastlinehb
I sure hope you don't eat pork (Lev. 11:7) or crabs and oysters (11:9-12), have sex during your wife's menstruation (15:19), forget to make timely animal sacrifices (4:1-10), trim your beard or hair (19:27), or wear poly/cotton blend clothes (19:19).
Oh, and remember that slavery is okay (25:44-46) and that disabled people are too hated by God to attend services (21:18-23).
Otherwise you'd be a big, flaming hypocrite. Pity.
robcma 6 months ago
@coastlinehb
I sure hope you don't eat pork (Lev. 11:7) or crabs and oysters (11:9-12), have sex during your wife's menstruation (15:19), forget to make timely animal sacrifices (4:1-10), trim your beard or hair (19:27), or wear poly/cotton blend clothes (19:19).
Oh, and remember that slavery is okay (25:44-46) and that disabled people are too hated by God to attend services (21:18-23).
Otherwise you'd be a big, flaming hypocrite. Pity.
robcma 6 months ago
@coastlinehb Hm. What a shame. If you believe that, then you still believe that women are of property to men and that children are inferior beings. Also, you misspelled "pity."
charliesaysgo 2 months ago
@coastlinehb prove all things; hold fast that which is good (1 Thessalonians 5:21). Eat the meat and spit out the bones. Society as you view it is very narrow minded and very conceited. Loose construction of the bible and other religions should be followed. Just as the McCulloch v. Maryland case they argued if the constitution should be more free or more strict. If you broaden your horizon of how you perceive the world you will get better knowledge. If everyone was UU it would be a good World
dredre2441 1 month ago in playlist More videos from rudywaltz
@homsar678 they accept everyone.
luvbites23 1 year ago
@homsar678
Do you mean beyond the seven principles? Beyond that, there are many answers. I attend a UU congregation and I am an atheist. There isn't a demand within UU that one unquestioningly adhere to a specific set of beliefs.
netmystique 1 year ago
@homsar678
Do you mean beyond the seven principles? Beyond that, there are many answers. I attend a UU congregation and I am an atheist. There isn't a demand within UU that one unquestioningly adhere to a specific set of believes.
netmystique 1 year ago
@homsar678 Google "seven principles" and the top link should be a list of core UU beliefs from the UUA.
rudywaltz 1 year ago
@homsar678 Absolutely!
rudywaltz 1 year ago
Satan would approve of Unitarian Universalism.
Indigohue 1 year ago
@Indigohue That's a shame because so few UUs believe in, and therefore can hardly "approve of," Satan in return.
rudywaltz 1 year ago 10
@rudywaltz
Well unless you are willing to call the Bible a work of fiction, you will know that Satan does exist and he's deceiving people on this earth right now.
Indigohue 1 year ago
@Indigohue "work of fiction" may be putting it too strongly. It's hard to speak for all UUs, but I would guess that most do not interpret the Bible (and yes, many read it) as an unambiguous and/or unquestionable word of God.
rudywaltz 1 year ago 5
@rudywaltz
You are doubting the word of God. Doubt was the orignial sin was it not?
Indigohue 1 year ago
@Indigohue the Bible was written by men, deemed "The Word of God" by a Ceasar and his bishops over a thousand years ago, in a language that has been dead. These MEN decided what IS and what ISN'T the word of God. Who were they? God? No. So does that magically make the Bible the word of God? Only because we say so and because we can find parts of it that are real in today's society.
anthj79 1 year ago
@Indigohue , I'm intrigued. Why would Satan approve of Unitarian Universalism?
netmystique 1 year ago
@TroyBilt007 Each church / congregation / minister will decide how much spirituality there is in the services vs other elements. I would be surprised if a full 80% of the church was GBLT (a recent survey of ours had the number closer to 25%), but I suppose it is possible. Because many believe that GLBT rights are THE civil rights issue the era, and battles are currently being fought in courts and legislatures, it can appear to get more emphasis. But other issues to receive our attention as well.
rudywaltz 1 year ago
QWALITY....I LOVE THIS@GREATNESS!
bolillo239 1 year ago
I'm a UU because I'm scared of committing to any belief system and offending anybody. Instead I prefer to drift in vague platitudes that feel nice but actually make no sense. I also don't want to accept that there is any objective truth.
HerrSchenkel 1 year ago
@HerrSchenkel Very funny. Actually, being a UU means confronting those fears in a very direct way.
rudywaltz 1 year ago 3
This UU thing is absolutely fascinating. I've heard the term a few times, but now I know what it is I'm absolutely amazed. Mostly because it seems to be everything and nothing at the same time. It's like life imitating satire. Absolutely brilliant.
SmoothInstigator 2 years ago
Smile love and forgive......Open your eyes. You have been deceived by the dogma of christianity. I have been in your shoes for years and finally broke free of the horrid belief of what the bible and the Church has thrown at people. KNOW where your bible came from . It's not what you think. Then you will truely know how to smile love and forgive. the only devil is ignorance.
angelobgangelo 2 years ago
@angelobgangelo
I waited all my life for a community of intelligent people such as yourself. I'm thankful for the UU community at large. :-)
HowlinJay 2 years ago
And smile
angelobgangelo 2 years ago
smile love and forgive? .... please open your eyes ,,,,and for the first time KNOW where your bible really comes from.....then you will be awake instead of asleep. You have been deceived . I have been in your shoes.
angelobgangelo 2 years ago
To be honest, i don't really consider UU as a religion.
But i still think it's brilliant
AnneLiseMham 2 years ago
I like it a lot. BUT what is a miracle but possibly a narural phenomena of a different order, so yes of course miracles exist. I went to the syd universalist church and was subjected to a polital diatribe nothing spiritual. perhaps in the US its better and yes I am a believer but reject religious dogma
peterthesongman 2 years ago
New-Agesim disguised through some humanistic language and relativistic verbal expressions. JESUS CHRIST is the ONLY way to heaven, dear friends. Unitarianism is of the devil, and, YES, the devil exists and JESUS CHRIST defeated him on the cross and the LORD JESUS CHRIST is coming back to judge the world. REPENT and believe the Gospel and you shall be saved!
SmileLoveForgive 2 years ago
who said UUs dont beleive in jesus?
AnneLiseMham 2 years ago
See, that's the thing.. Even YOUR view is respected, too! It's great, because you are also accepted and respected for your very strong and solid beliefs!
anthj79 2 years ago
@SmileLoveForgive That's fundamentalism...
34roberees 7 months ago
I want to worship and understand my own truth. I am nervous to join the UU because I am a fiscally conservative republican. I vote for conservatives because I do not believe in big government. I know faith and politics really are not related. After watching this video, I feel ,correct me if I am wrong that I would not be accepted at (this) UU church because I voted for McCain and I do not think Pres Obama is doing good things for this country. I am I way off base here? I hope for some insight
punkfish79 2 years ago
We do have a couple republican-voting members that I know of, but it's true that a vast majority of members at First UU of Baltimore likely voted for Obama, as did the city of Baltimore. If you have principled disagreements with the left on fiscal policy, I doubt any UU would reject you. If you approach spirituality and social issues with a spirit of openness, inclusion, and compassion for others, you will have a lot more in common with UUs than the person you voted for.
rudywaltz 2 years ago
Being left or right is all about economic policy. I would think UU is where people would probably agree more on principles of how to treat other people and to follow the principle live and let live.
SmileNow2 2 years ago
No you're right. The UU is all about accepting different opinions and questioning each other, and affirming the sense of worth in each person. Nothing to be scared of. You will probably be in the minority politically however
verdict1st 2 years ago
Comment pending approval. Still a little of that (oh were all excepting and kind but don't say anything bad about our religion.)....Yeah um. still haven't quite developed a seance of hummer yet have we...
FactVsReligion 2 years ago
Hi FactVsReligion: we get some really hateful stuff here that I don't let through. I'm not apologizing for that. As you see in the comments here, civil disagreement does get posted.
rudywaltz 2 years ago
their so cute. their like half way between Christian Buddhist and Agnostic.
FactVsReligion 2 years ago
As a "Red Letter" Christian I do feel the UU's are a place where I can worship freely. Do i have a different view of jesus than most UU's...Yes. Am i accepted...Yes. Do I accept and love those who think differently from me...Yes. We must learn to love and accept.
boomac62 2 years ago 9
I just attended a Unitarian Universalist Fellowship in south carolina today. They have just finished their welcoming congregation training and I have to say I had the greatest feeling of spiritual community that I have ever had off the internet. It was amazing to feel welcomed.
RobinEdgar, I have no clue what you are talking about, but obviously if you have a problem with a particular UU church, you should change, or at least let people know about it and not make sweeping generalizations.
~Kai
kaimialana 2 years ago
Apologies to those who had to wait weeks for their comments to be approved. A lot of time can go by between comments and sometimes I miss a posting. I wish I could let them go up without approval, but some people write some really awful things that I cannot allow. CIVIL debate is welcome.
rudywaltz 3 years ago
I have a difficult time, logically, accepting that many religions and faiths can be true at the same time. That is what I'm getting at. I also believe that if you have Wiccans and Christians worshiping at the same time with the same music and liturgy the contradictions are too numerous to be worshiping at the same time in the same room with the same music and liturgy.
amazedcreation 3 years ago
Follow the principle that every person is worthy of life and happiness. That every person should be able to follow their own spiritual path. It does not matter what that spiritual path is if the person is treating other people with respect and doing general postive things.
SmileNow2 2 years ago 2
I understand diversity, but I also believe in logic. Logically not everything that anyone believes can be true. Something is going to be false regardless of how much we would like to be diverse. If a car crashes into another car, we might all have different perspectives of the crash, but the fact is the cars crashed.
amazedcreation 3 years ago
@amazedcreation
or everybody could be wrong..
AnneLiseMham 2 years ago
Is there a point where it moves from asking the right questions to finding the correct(factual) answers?
dave55toglorifygod 3 years ago
apparently, dave..there is not a "right answer". that seems to be the point of the church. each person can have a different answer. At least, thats what I gather. This kind of breaks my heart yet there is alot of truth to it. Jesus was crucified to show his love, yet they dont accept it. I understand their journey though...I really do. Love Wins. Yes. but..it was because of Christ.
lindseytabb 3 years ago
billions of people have died for they stood for throughout human history. Jesus was never the only one - nor was what he stood for, the only thing people have died for. there's a reason why they call it -faith- and not -fact-.
AspiringAdventurer 3 years ago
Many Unitarians would accept your view, that it was Jesus who made the atonement for us. Yet there are other members who cannot accept that divine love is ultimately shown through Christ. They do not believe that their "salvation" (if they believe there is any, as opposed to eternal damnation) depends on acceptance of Christ. For many Unitarians, God's love and truth can be found in many places, such as in nature, in the writings of philosophers and/or in the teachings of other faith traditions
timonline2000 3 years ago
I was raised Catholic and I definitly understand what you mean, but don't you ever doubt?
And is it really bad to doubt?
Do you actually KNOW jesus existed?
I'm not questioning you in particular. just the religion
i could question any religion, i just don't know them that well
AnneLiseMham 2 years ago
there's no such thing as a factual answer to questions you mention. humanity has shead it's blood, sweat and tears for thousands of years to not only find these answers but imposing them on others. the faith isn't nessesarily about finding answers or imposing them on others. it's the opposite. it's about respecting the mystery and the individual freedom of belief.
AspiringAdventurer 3 years ago
there's no such thing as a factual answer to the questions you mention. humans have shead blood, sweat and tears for thousands of years trying to find those answers and impose them on others. we're not about that. infact, we're just the opposite. we're about respecting the mystery and the indidvidual freedom of belief.
AspiringAdventurer 3 years ago
Too many contradictions. Example: Unitarian Universalism emphasizes everyone's inner-light. What if I worship darkness? I mean that's ok. And though you may challenge my belief... I still believe it. But now I have a contradiction to what I "believe". So do we really get better or we just get more confused? Or do we keep adding everyone's opinions to our own way of thinking so we have such a mass of contradictions we have no idea even if a wall exists of if pain is real.
amazedcreation 3 years ago
amazedcreation: I'm not sure what you mean by worshiping darkness, however we do have our 7 core principles that help guide us. I would say that if you disagree strongly with any of them, then you are not really a UU. You might find it hard to both worship "darkness" and follow those principles at the same time. You would still need to use reason to cut through such contradictions.
rudywaltz 3 years ago
I love that unitarian universalists not only try to understand one another, but try to help one another understand themselves, and really, and I mean really try to let them be their own individual person. UUism allows people to live the best part of themself, and focus on what's really important to them in life. We discover together individually, how we want to live our life.
Thanks for posting this RudyWaltz, let the world know who and why we are =)
Also- Go Eugene UU Church!! <3
earthlover747 4 years ago
You guys are going to bust hell wide open.
LordBwithU 4 years ago
lol LordBwithU...200+ years now and it hasn't happened yet! Maybe we're not trying hard enough :) PeaceBwithU
rudywaltz 4 years ago
well according to my Satanist UU - friend that wouldn't be a bad thing. XD
but for thousands of years, your dogmatic approach to faith has killed more people than anything else in human history. christian's themselves experienced it.
we're people who've learned our lesson. i think it's about time we have a shot at it ya?
AspiringAdventurer 3 years ago
I've just discovered this religion & I think I may have found a home for me! Thank you so much for posting these!!
Poeboi 4 years ago 3
me too!!! i've been searching for a while (o.k 3 years) but know i think i have found it
bluenosedive 3 years ago
Good work. If all the UU's came out of the closet, it would be a better world.
Circle4Success 4 years ago 2
I have nothing to say about the "intense" conversation going on here but I do have something to say about this video (parts 1 and 2).
All the comments I heard could be echoed in my own congregation, the First UU Society of San Francisco.
I enjoyed hearing from so many people, which showed once again the beautiful diversity of Unitarian Universalism.
My congratulations to all who worked to put this great video together!
Stephen
in San Franciscso
Stechjo 4 years ago 4
I just watched the Betty Butterfield video about UU. It's kind of funny. I saw a funnier, but similar roast of UU at a UU church. They do seem to have a good sense of humor about themselves.
g587802 4 years ago
Q: what do you get when you cross a UU with a Jehovahs Witness?
A: Someone who knocks on your door to ask you what you believe.
tessabianca 4 years ago 19
I suggest that you look a bit more closely at what is now called U*Uism before you say, "I wish the whole world was Unitarian." BTW Like other religions, what U*Us claim in their propaganda and promotional materials and how they actually behave can be two very different things. The U*Us I know have made a total mockery of what these U*Us are claiming.
RobinEdgar 4 years ago
That's the wonderful thing about UUism...You shape your own beliefs. We're not committed to just following one set of beliefs...I myself pull beliefs from Buddha, Christianity, and Islam.
jrbean07 4 years ago 2
I've read your comments. Anyone who professes to live the seven UU principles to the best of their ability would not censor you. As a "Cradle Presbyterian" of many generations I was proud of Chicago First Pres and its compassion and actions, 1950s on. I attended Presbyterian schools and could not accept the fantasies and convoluted Bible(knowing how it came to be) Everywhere, people do not measure up to stated principles.UUs are human, but most TRY.
GwenAYF 3 years ago
So UUism is not the same as Unitarianism?
wa7ad 4 years ago
The Unitarian and Universalist religions merged a number of years ago to form UU.
unassimilated 4 years ago
Great Job! Thanks for spreading the word :--)
lifetime UU
PAMGATES 4 years ago
So I have lost faith in Catholicism completely. I am now bordering on Atheism, but this video really touched me. I work on Sundays so it is difficult for me to go to services. But UUA just seems amazing!
Julietjeske 4 years ago
Well the UUA is certainly quite amazing in its outrageous hypocrisy and fraudulent promotional claims about U*Uism. . .
RobinEdgar 4 years ago
And the Catholics, Mormons, Lutherans, Hindis, Buddists, Jews, and all other faiths are free of this? PLEASE! To each his own.
Julietjeske 4 years ago 4
To each his own outrageous hypocrisy and fraudulent promotional claims?
Sure. . .
Why not?
RobinEdgar 4 years ago
I am sorry you may have had a bad experience with UUA, but again as a former CATHOLIC! I can't even compare the two. My priest was beyond corrupt, I suffered abuse at my Catholic school, they told us not to even be friends with non-catholics, and that even our thoughts would cause us to burn in hell! Fear, Fear, Fear, and more Fear mixed with some guilt. Don't like UUA find another church its a free country.
Julietjeske 4 years ago 2
Hello there :)
Well i was raised Catholic, (and -even though my beleifs changed- i still hold that religion close to my heart)
it just seems to me your own catholic youth was pretty horrible.
i just thought id let you know your catholic school is probably one of the rare ones to be that terrible.
i moved a lot but i never heard of such treatment.
Anyways, i do agree with the fact that Guilt is very present in the Roman Catholic religion. but it's not suppose to be that bad.
useless comment
AnneLiseMham 2 years ago
what is the hypocrisy of UU. Can you be specific - or offer anything other then an unsubstantiated and opinion with no context.
g587802 4 years ago
Absolutely. I can be very specific about quite a number of examples of U*U injustices, abuses and hypocrisy. I can offer plenty of substantiated facts along with no shortage to context. Just Google - "Robin Edgar" and Unitarian hypocrisy - to find out more than you might want to know about U*U hypocrisy.
RobinEdgar 4 years ago
Thanks, RobinEdgar, your site makes for an interesting (though sometimes confusing) read. All I can say is that the folks in this video and who attend this church constantly strive to put UU principles into practice. Those principles are tested all the time and yes, I'm sure sometimes we fall short. But one beauty of the UU church is that any potential hypocrisy can be challenged from within and rarely stands for long.
rudywaltz 4 years ago
Thanks for being a good sport Rudy for, so far. . . not censoring any of my criticism of U*U hypocrisy etc. Your openness to my criticism is most appreciated. A lot of other U*Us would have censored it. Best Regards, Robin Edgar
RobinEdgar 4 years ago
Robin, I have read your discussion. I am sorry, simply put, you just don't get it. You aren't required to understand it, because if you did, you'd be at peace and you would realize you'd be a UU, just as others have. Our faith shouldn't take away from yours, if you are at peace with your chosen faith.
joyville2 4 years ago 2