Lebanon War report blames Israel military

[shinokiba]

Maybe the war wouldn't have started if Lebanon didn't fire rockets at Israel.

[THEMISTOCLESS]

translation is verry verry lame !!!!!!

get som pro's

[lastdaywatchers]

This Winograd Report prove what the May 15th Prophecy has prophesied concerning Israel "you shall not prosper in your ways; you shall be only oppressed and plundered continually, and no one shall save you." do a Google search of the May 15th Prophecy and you will see for yourself

[vistavision2]

The Likud regime polices of economic stranglehold to coerce the palestinian people of Gaza and Egyptian acquisence is now threatening the stability of Egypt: should it destable Egypt, the situation shall be more precarious for Israel than in any other time of its histroy; including 1948, when the existence of Israel was never an issue.

[BIGMEL1981]

thats right the report is correct ... it was an unjust war olmert resign !

[kam3Oen]

Arabs will realize in the decades to come that they should've made peace when they had the chance.

[vistavision2]

Kam3Oen, its self-evident that your reasoning skills are on vaction or never moved in to that space between your ears: Its the Israeli leadership that shopuld realize that it all hangs in the balance of its compliance with UNSC 242 or not.

Detente has one purpose: To permit the people to culturally acclimate/strive to the global standards of human/civil rights of which turns the tide vis-a-vis tryannical/despotic regimes.

Israelis are practising Crimes Against Humanity. Your Conclusion?

[vistavision2]

USA had (past tense) pre-emenince of cultures because the humanity identified with it human and civil rights Creed.

USA sponorship of Israel likud Crimes Against Humanity is the CAUSE of this role reversal of humanity detesting such malevolence which translates as pole reversal of global governance (shrinkage of sphere of influence equal to that of Israel).

Global civil war shall be the consequence of USA leadership's ignorance of blindly sponsoring Israel's Crimes Against Humanity?

[kam3Oen]

Well, the way I look at it, the arabs have two choice, they can attack and [try to] destroy Israel, which will than nuke every arab and muslim city in the world, or it can leave Israel to it's own devices. There is no other choice.

[ArabAmerican4RonPaul]

There is another option, which is to get the fuck out of all the Arabic occupied lands, and go back where you came from, Est Europe, Africa and Spain. As far as Nuke shit, you can't use it because you get Nuclear radiations as well. so it's not an option. So face the truth, Hizbulla defeated Israel yepyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy­yyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

[kam3Oen]

Yes, Hizbullah defeated Israel, you win a prize.

[vistavision2]

Kam#Oen, The options are: Israel leadership voluntarily complies with UNSC 242 or the global community matrix enforces compliance with armed force.

It is that zionist mentality: "won a prize" of UNGA 181 State of Palestine lands that has in fact put the State of Israel in jeopardy- The viability of a nation-state is not determined by geographical expanse nor location but by international relations.

[vistavision2]

Kam3Oen, the only ones pusing that "destroy Israel" propaganda are the zionists themselves. No agency wants to destroy the State of Israel: the application of international law vis-a-vis the State of Israel leadership is the issue. Said application of international law is not vis-a-vis some abstract idea but vis-a-vis political leadership whom are the actors of systemic contravention to international law.

[vistavision2]

Your confusing likud regime with the people of Israel. The State of Israel shall exist without the Likud regime but it shall not exist with the Likud regime policies of Crimes Against Humanity.

[kam3Oen]

So the global community is going to invade Israel if we don't comply with 242. The "global community" can't even stop genocides by machete wielding savages in africa, and they'e going to take on the 4th largest nuclear power in the world. LOL. No, the UN will dissolve the moment an economic crisis hits the world, just like the League of Nations did, and weak third world countries will go back to being powerless, just like they always have been.

[MementoExpose]

You LOST get over it

[theblackirish86]

It's amazing how the country's politicians sold out its own military. This war was a major political failure, and the politicians of Israel should be to blame, not the military itself. Ehud Olmert's actions have further destabilized the region, and his actions further deteriorated the hopes of everlasting peace in the region. This man should resign.

[theblackirish86]

It's amazing how the country's politicians sold out its own military. This war was a major political failure, and the politicians of Israel should be to blame, not the military itself. Ehud Olmert's actions have further destabilized the region, and his actions further deteriorated the hopes of everlasting peace in the region. This man should resign!

[historywillabsolve]

and the US gov just stood by as lebanon was destroyed by israel state terror.

[scorpiooooooh]

And Lebanon just stood by as the puppets of Iran instigated the war. Hmmmm, there seems to be a trend here and it has something to do with Iran.

[historywillabsolve]

israel planned the war months in advance, iran had nothing to do with it.

[AbuWaleed123]

dude, Iran gave the order just like they gave the order to Hamas to kidnap a soldier. I am sure Israel has contigency plans for every senario but this was clearly ordered by Iran (lets not forget the war came right before more sanctions were going to be put on Iran).

[historywillabsolve]

how do you know? were you a fly on the wall when the iranians supposedly gave these marching orders? saudia arabia is the source of most of the funding for hamas. why don't you say they planned it? the kidnapped soldier was just a pretext to invade lebanon. why should all of lebanon be collectively punished for the actions of a few anyway? that's just another clear example of Israeli state-sponsored terrorism.

[AbuWaleed123]

I would like to know why you say Saudi is the biggest Hamas supporter because that would mean they would of had to of given more then $300 million (which Iran did) and I'm sure the US would of said something to the family of Saud for that. Hamas has an embassy in Tehran. Iran is investing heavily in Hamas and Hizb'Allah to make shia Islam seem like the victor. I'm not saying the invasion is justified, I'm just saying we should look at who is pulling the strings in Lebanon. Ask Hariri.

[historywillabsolve]

from wikipedia: "The majority of Hamas funding comes from Saudi Arabia." they link to two sourcse, one of them says "According to Israeli authorities, Abu Etzev confessed to receiving hundreds of thousands of dollars from the Hamas headquarters in Saudi Arabia as well as instructions that he passed on to Hamas field operatives". instead of acknowledging israel as the aggressor, you concoct conspiracies about iran which have little evidence. bravo.

[AbuWaleed123]

OH you really made a case. WIKIPEDIA. and "Hundreds of thousands of dollars". Like I said, Iran gave Hamas $300 million and training by the Quds Force (I will send you the al jazeera article). Now, the question is not Hamas anyway, its Hizb'Allah, and usually when someone does a cross border raid, they are the aggressor. Next time you want to act like a smart ass make sure your not using wikipedia to back up your claims.

[historywillabsolve]

my point was saudi arabia was the #1 funder of the group you claim was working directly for iran (as if that made israel's criminal invasion and bombing of lebanon acceptable or even rational). plenty of money and arms flow between borders to hostile groups, most of it comes from US to Israel (WMD haven) in the billions so they can maintain their 40+ year military occupation.

[historywillabsolve]

so what exactly is your point? should we invade and bomb countries indiscriminately every time an armed combatant is captured on a hostile border?

[AbuWaleed123]

not at all. I'm not a fan of Israel, but that does not mean Hizb'Allah has my support by default. To me, as a sunni muslim, all parties, Hizb'Allah, Iran and (maybe not as much) Hamas are all to blame. Iran is just as evil as Israel and I wanted to point out how they tricked everyone into believing that they beat Israel when in reality if they had not of attacked the border there would of been no war in the first place. Iran is trying to turn sunni to shia and the war was just an advertisment.

[historywillabsolve]

you live in the US so you probably got a lot of biased coverage, but Hezbollah was not targeting civilians like Israel. they did not bomb ambulances or fleeing cars of people who were trying to escape the IDF jet bombers/artillery/cluster-bomb­s. israel came out looking a lot dirtier in this war, and hezbollah's population in lebanon has soared since (partly also because of their post-war efforts of rebuilding everything Israel destroyed).

[AbuWaleed123]

Dude, you missed the point. I hate the jews and the shia equally.

[ArabAmerican4RonPaul]

Shame on you to say that, really shameful to compare Israel to Iran, Israel occupied Palastinem south Lebanon, part of Jordan, part of Egypt, Gonal hights, killed thousands of innocents, and you compare it to Iran, Im not big fan of Iran, but ther eis way difference between the 2 parties.

[AbuWaleed123]

I will go a step further and say Iran is more dangerous then Israel because the Iranian regime acts hypocritically.

[vistavision2]

AbuWaleed, munnitions, contingency plans and of militaries of their own accord do not win battles: persons, e.g., Leadership, is what wins battles.

[natashanaa]

isreal last summer war with lebanon, was nothing but war crimes. democracy preach justice to those who died in vain last summer in lebanon, we demand justice in the HAGUE FOR THOSE U BUTCHER. eh?

[natashanaa]

Isreal war last summer on lebanon was nothing but war crimes under international laws, other than that it is all bullshit. thanks.

[khalifa987]

muslim should wake up, israels are smarts they bombed the hell out of lebonan and now they say they were defeated what kind of load of shit are they feed you idots...shia's don't give a shit about muslims in general they are way too persian and want power for them self...israel will be nuked if it keeps its ways

[jaunkarachi]

Why dont you shut your big mouth

Shias were bombed in southern Lebanon not sunnis.

Yes our allegiance is to Ahmedinejad who can stand up to Israel not to your leaders who wag thier tails behind Zionist leaders.

Long live Hezbollah

[scorpiooooooh]

If you are a friend of Ahmadinijad, then you support his call to "wipe Isreal off the map".

You are inviting a full scale war by supporting his agenda. Ahmadinijad is a very dangerous person, if there is a widespread war in the ME or the world, he will be the one to have caused it.

[hjaf003]

if u listen to what he said in his interviews he didnt mean to wipe israel off the map in terms of war, he used the soviet union as an example, and lets suppose that he did threaten israel, he is not dangerous he cant do shit. everyone knows that israel has nothing to be afraid of.they are just mad because he addressed the issue of the lack of human rights towards Palestinians by the Israeli government

[hjaf003]

look buddy this 'war' involves all arabs not only shiahs...its a disgrace what israel is doing to the arabs especially to the palestinians; terrorizing women and children and then calling them terrorists. Israel is a sad excuse for a nation anybody who opposes Israel's murderous tactics is stands for justice

[scorpiooooooh]

"buddy"?

I understand your point of view, BUT, it still does not change the fact that if Ahmadinijad minded his own business, Isreal and Palestine would be closer to peace, if not already at peace. Ahmadinijad refutes the holocaust, he is not sane. He want's to prevent democracy, violate human rights, and based on past performance, likely developing nuclear weapons. No one is looking for an excuse to go to war, we are lookng for reasons not to. Iran needs to make peace, not instigate war.

[jaunkarachi]

Why dont you reverse the argument and say Israel should make peace. Why isnt Israel stop building its settelemnts in occupied territories?

Secondly yes I am agaisnt the state of Israel and there is no point of making a Zionist state in ME. If Jews want to live in ME they can do so by living with Arabs the same way christians have done for centuries. But the notion of people arriving from Europe and occupying Muslim land is totally ridiculous to me.

I love Jews but I hate Zionist.

[scorpiooooooh]

juankarachi...

As an analyst, I already do that. Problems can not be solved by wishful thinking or one sided arguments. Every point of view, politicaly and religiously must be factored in. I am opposed to the settlements and the walls too. Also, Isreal is not the only country to have illegal development.  Look at Spain and the construction debacle there. The only difference is the land in Spain is not considered "Holy". Take religion out of the problem and solve it with diplomacy.

[vistavision2]

scorpiooooooh, illegal development and settlement in contravention to Laws of Armed Conflcit which qualify such as War Crimes and effected through military occupation which qualify the settlements Crimes Against Humanity are NOT comparable.

[jaunkarachi]

scorpioh

Since that land is so holy it should be made sure that all of that place is made acessible to Jews, Christians, Muslims and even Bahais and Druze. The very notion of going through Israeli blocades to go to Al-Aqsa mosque to offer a friday prayer boils the blood of evry practising Muslims. Before the formation of state of Israel Mulims use to freely allow Jews to come to their Holy wall and now look what have zionists given us in reuturn.

[jew3hitler]

@jaunkarachi you don't mean that do you? I mean.... zionists living on the holy land...? eh?

trust me on this... zionists are evil and should only live in nazi concentration camps

[leedaomillz]

@jaunkarachi

But the Jews didn't blow up school buses.

[Redcarpet01]

@leedaomillz The period of the British Mandate of Palestine included terrorist campaigns by groups such as Lehi

[ArabAmerican4RonPaul]

Did Ahmadijanad killed Rabin??? He was killed on the hands of his own Inteligence agencies by an order frojt he Zion leaders, who don't give a shit about Jews or Arabs, they care about filling their pockets with money, and War is the best way for them to drain both parties.

[scorpiooooooh]

Politics and religion dont mix, they are like water and oil. States should be run by leaders with good moral values, religion is supposed to teach us morals, right? So why is religion used as an excuse to kill, rather than to share, like the supreme being wants?

About the Zion conspiracy, I've researched it and do not believe thats the agenda. I feel alot of the problems are caused by entities exploting the region for short term personal gains, not global dominance.

[hjaf003]

watch his interviews, he did not deny the holocaust he raised questions, good ones, he expressed his concern for the oppressed, he may be devolping nuclear energy but israel has nukes a lot of them, and no one wil be surprised if they use them...there is no arguing, as long as israel continues to oppress and occupy and murder...alongside the US there can never be peace, that is common sense, the day israel makes peace then things will change for good

[jaunkarachi]

Yes I agree that it is a war involving evry singe human who stands up for justice.

I am not a person who likes to draw line between shias and sunnis but I alos dont like to see people barking against Shias and forgetting that it was the Shia resistance and its Shia partners who single-handedly defeated IDF which no Arab state was able to do ever in the hsitory of ME.

[scorpiooooooh]

The Shia/Sunni problem is practicaly identical to the Catholic/Protestent problem in Europe hundreds of years ago. When politics and religion are one in the same as a state, and people believe God is on their side, there is little chance for peace. If you want to be a good Muslim, Christian or Jew, love thy neighbor as God commands. Find peace and security through cooperation, not religious, political or financial conquest.

[jaunkarachi]

scorpioh

Shia/sunni issue is historical but has always been used by fundamentalist on both sides. The problem is people poking thier noses into others religon. I am shia because i think that my approach to reach God is through shiaism and if someone think that Budhism is his or her way to reach God or supreme being then let it be. And this attitude can only come through education which we muslims seriously lack.

[TheRoyalLoyal]

great news :) although the zionist "commission" was too soft, they admited the DEFEAT...

[jamal22066]

lebanon war report blames isreal military.....now thats a big surprise aint it?

[proteanview]

*falls over* say it isn't so!

[Chivalryaintdead]

So the investigation has made the military a scape goat, and not the people who ordered the war to begin?

That's quite convienient.

[vistavision2]

chivalryaintdead, so shall Likud's Crimes Against Humanity policies in occupied UNGA 181 State of Palestine shall be thrown on the shoulders of the IDF as War Crimes as the israeli politicians attempt to weasel out of their accountability for Crimes Against Humanity. Just watch Netanyahu whom shall lead the charge against the IDF.

[ajail92]

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