@OceanderTethyseus What a well thought out, educated statement you have just made. I would love to have conversations with you in person, I'm sure they would be stimulating and intellectual
Otherwise, it was this arrangement of the "Lied der Waldtaube" that got enough people sufficiently interested in the piece so as to be willing to risk putting on the entire cantata. [When needing 145-150 instrumentalists, a minimum of 5 voice-soloists (if 1 also speaks), 2 giant mixed choirs and 1 more large male-chorus, nobody would think then of putting it on 'cold-turkey', in part also due to Schönberg's already-forbidding reputation.]
As it was, when Franz Schreker did conduct the proper première of the whole work in 1913, it was after great difficulty! Nevertheless, apparently the work was a major triumph for Schönberg - though he disdained the audience reaction given what he was then really working with.
shoenberg was a steaming pile of dog crap
OceanderTethyseus 11 months ago
@OceanderTethyseus What a well thought out, educated statement you have just made. I would love to have conversations with you in person, I'm sure they would be stimulating and intellectual
JohnCalanchini 10 months ago
Who're the performers, please?
Otherwise, it was this arrangement of the "Lied der Waldtaube" that got enough people sufficiently interested in the piece so as to be willing to risk putting on the entire cantata. [When needing 145-150 instrumentalists, a minimum of 5 voice-soloists (if 1 also speaks), 2 giant mixed choirs and 1 more large male-chorus, nobody would think then of putting it on 'cold-turkey', in part also due to Schönberg's already-forbidding reputation.]
LJBSasha 2 years ago
As it was, when Franz Schreker did conduct the proper première of the whole work in 1913, it was after great difficulty! Nevertheless, apparently the work was a major triumph for Schönberg - though he disdained the audience reaction given what he was then really working with.
LJBSasha 2 years ago
You may have precised that this is a transcription for small orchestra, not the original version.
Nice, anyway.
olivierbialais 2 years ago
This is really fucking beatiful.
Misantropo04 2 years ago
the piece is called "waldtaube" ("pidgeon of the woods") instead of "waltraube" ("whale grape" xD)...
thanks for uploading, anyway ^^
fishbrot 2 years ago 3
Good call! I didn't even realize I'd misspelled it. Thanks!
VladekMeyer83 2 years ago
@VladekMeyer83 also(not to be a bitch about it) in bar 110 (2:12) it's not "und den Tod" but "fand den Tod"
rancodanca 1 year ago
@rancodanca, thanks for pointing it out. :)
VladekMeyer83 2 months ago
@fishbrot Haha! Whale grape! Love it!
paulybarr 4 months ago
Beautiful! Those that say that Schoenberg had not talent do not know his work!
qwe07 2 years ago 5