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horsepower is good for nascar and any race that doesnt go from 0-whatever, my gsxr1k has more horsepower than my dads hayabusa but his busa has more torque than my 1k, so when the light turns green all i see are his tail lights
that thing must launch so hard haha. btw there really shouldn't be so much hate towards other american car makers especially in this kind of economy we should be promoting all american car makers to help stimulate our own economy. sure this is an awesome car but it doesn't mean you say things like "eat dat chevy fags" and "I think if a ford saw this truck it would shit its engine out." ive heard true car guys like all cars and true americans like all american cars.
It doesn't matter if an engine runs at 12,000 RPM or 3,000 RPM, if they are the same HP, they can do the same work (i.e. accelerate the same or go the same top speed). The difference will be in the torque output, but the gears are what exchanges the high RPM for torque at the drive wheels, and vice versa for the low RPM engine.
Diesel engines are used in pulling and heavy work NOT because it puts out loads of torque. They're used because they last longer and get better mileage than a gas engine. Diesels make gobs of torque because they are RPM limited engines.
@btcruz um dude, u got 2 out of 3 right.... they are ALSO used in pulling because they have alot of torque...,,,and they have a lot of torque because they have a large stroke which causes them not to be able to reach as high rpms as a lower stroke motor..
HP is a calculated figure, it isn't measured. It is the relationship of torque and RPM. You can trade one for the other. HP is the number that matters, not torque or RPM becuase it is all regulated with the gearing and transmission.
all you pussies stfu. Torque serves a purpose and so does HP. you need Torque to get off the line and you need HP to keep accelerating, so therefore YOU NEED BOTH TO WIN RACES. good lord fuckin youtube arguments.
@127069 thats not true, diesels are lower geared and have more torque so stock a gas would win but pulling a diesel would win so hp wins races not torque
@hoythunting1 Il go with enzos theory,good torque pulls you out of corners obviously he didnt mean low end diesel torque or drag racing,but circuit racing
@127069 Actually...that was Carroll Shelby IDIOT *sarcasm alert* ;-) Actually both said it. Actually...we're not really sure. I think they both sat down one day, had a track day fist fight, and settled on one grand opinion. But that's my take on the whole thing...
Logic i don't know where you went to school but for some reason your arguing that hp=ma which is wrong. Horsepower is a rate of doing work, not a force. Power(Hp) = NT/5250 Where N is rpm and T is torque. More torque = more hp. Ricers build hp with rpm and diesels with torque. A lower hp vehicle can accelerate faster than a larger hp vehicle.
then y the fuck do we strive to get higher horsepower genius. if you ever get a chance. go drive a malibu. then get into a 10 sec car and tell me the malibu is faster
he never said putting more hp in these trucks doesnt make them faster. but you gain more tourqe over hp in a diesel do to high compression and long stroke to boar ratio. you gain alot more tourqe then hp. you will never see a diesel truck with more hp then tourqe.
@RM250D8rzr r u on drugs? that makes absolutely no sense the only reason people run lower compresion in a diesel is so they can cram more boost in there bringing compression right back up there is no suck diesel engine were horse power is greater than torque because it ran low compression
Logic...in all honesty your brilliant, but please I wish this information could have been brought upon in a whole different way...lol I promise the responses would not have instigated further into a pretty childish argument. Forgive me for my insults, but to be honest I was offended myself.
Logic i am not understanding this. maybe u can help. My truck has 325hp stock. I did a thing or two to it so its running about 327hp now. so if i raced my brother witch has a truck with 230hp that i should win every time because i have more Hp.
to simplify what logic2reason is trying to say is that horsepower is how fast you hit the wall and torque is how far you push that wall after you hit it. lol i hate smart people like him!
its all about hp. To make a mass move, as in to input kinetic energy, requires power. How much energy a motor can put into the system (system is the car in this case, just being the cars velocity) So make the same mass accelerate faster, requires more energy input per given time. This term, hp, is what it is referring to. 600hp, will move the same weight faster, than say 599hp or less. Tq output, as in crank tq, does not determine how fast somethign is. its the combination
hp isnt everything. well maybe if you're a ricer, they spend all that money on parts to boost their hp but it really comes down to torque mixed into the ratio. thats why they are still low at 350 fwhp
hp is everything. Physics says so. I suggest taking energy and power classes at your local school. Either you dont understand what the idea of "cannot create or destroy energy", or your a moron. So when a motor has say, 200hp. That 200hp must be accounted for, either by energy loss, or car movement. there is NO FUCKING way 200hp can move a car slower than 150hp. END OF FUCKING STORY. hp output already deals with rpm, ratio's and tq output. So arguing about it is POINTLESS!!
I agree to an extent but also disagree...a balance is good for gas in diesel it's all about compression for combustion...without torque that thing would be as fast as a Nissan Maxima......Torque (and turbo help) is what launches that truck like a slingshot off the line...basically in a diesel torque has a lot to do with how fast they are....i used to own and work on diesels...every time i increased ho it was nice as soon as i doubled the torque the truck turned into a monster from hell!
im not argueing.... hp wins... always... thermodynamics says so, physics says so, and all PHYICS says so... power wins. more energy output, the fast it will be. the more power, the more it can pull ( based on velocity.). I do not care what you worked on. Energy ALWAYS WINS. its not an opinion, its a fucking fact. Argue with someone else. Cuase if your discussing motors, HP WINS... END oF DUCKING DISCUSSION!!!
I appreciate your "genius" but i thoroughly suggest the next time you would like to attack someone, I'm sure someone with an I.Q. such as yours would be able to spell correctly.
if you can accelerate a car faster with less power but more tq, then by defintion of laws of physics and THERMO, the motor is producing more power... its clear you are not educated enough to understand this concept... as sad at it is, its very simple... Everything is energy. To make a mass accelerate faster, requires more power/ energy... not tq. if tq made things faster (i.e. tq @ crank) then the term hp would not be created.... im sorry, but Hp always wins.. ALWAYS. I promise my life on it
and clearly, it doesnt matter how educated u think u r. just because it is logical, doesnt mean its true. i build cars. idc how much u dont think its true or ur science says is false. yes, the engine is producing more power. no shit. a kindergadener could have told me that. now go fail at life and try to sound smart somewhere else.
awesome... to move a mass faster (i.e. acceleration) requires more energy imput... not crank tq... to increase acceleration, you need more hp... I know what i know, and i know what i dont... thats the difference. you hve no background on math or physics or energy... this is clear... so sit back and learn something for once. and if a kindergardener could tell you that, why not know what a kindergardener does? assclown
first of what makes wheels spin torque the torque creates acceleration and the hp creates the high speeds.
the fact is you right a little, with out hp nothing happens and without torque you have no wheel rotation.
now an example you can have a ram1500 with say 350 hp and 300tq and then have a f250 350 hp but 600 tq, tell me which one wins, the 250 because his tires can rotate much faster
thermodynamics. cannot create or destroy ENERGY. hp is ENERGY... if you have 300hp going into a vehicle, then it will move it faster than 250hp... why, conservation of energy. YOu need to read some books before you start telling a mechanical engineer how power and energy works. tq does not create acceleration. I can apply tq to a bolt and not have it move. thus not accelerating... your idea's are flawed. To much so to fix in 500 characters.. Hp always wins... end of story..
yes that how tq is transfered. But you are leaving out TIME!!!!
Why does 400tq@2500rpms make the same power as 200tq@5000rpms.. If i take the 5000rpm shaft, fix it to a 2:1 gear ratio. Thus reducing the output shaft speed by 2. Then the tq also has to compensate for this. So the tq increases by 2. So taking 5000 down to 2500, means that 200 tq goes to 400.. thats why they make the same power. tq@ a specific speed= power. not just tq.
what is more sad, is that your college prof. is unaware of how tq is transfered. But anyways, its always about hp output. 1hp can put x amount of tq at a speed output shaft of set y. 2hp can put 2x amount of tq at a speed output shaft of set y. OR 2hp can put x amount of tq at a speed output shaft of set 2y. tqxrpm has to remain constant. ex. 2tq@2rpm= 4. if i change output to 1rpm. then tq has to be 4/1= 4. cuase 4tq@1rpm=4 no losses..
dude quit with your fucking physics calculations....that's only good on the drawing board..this is real life...perfect example of hp/tq so you shut the hell up is construction equipment......135kw/hp engine with 550tq if that bitch didn't have tq it wouldn't move at all, hp only helps it movealong at 15mph MAX....hp make the power tq is what distributes the power thru all speeds... jarom hit the nail on the head....stop arguing dipshit!
the calculations CAME from real life.... its sad you dont realize this... and its not arguing... your ego is getting involved becuase all you understand it tq..what about rpm? Hp takes both of those into account. 5hp will put out 2 times the wheel tq as 2.5hp at any speed. HOW (tq) much crank tq is irrelavent. gearing can manipulate the difference between tq and rpm... its sad that your probably really old and still dont understand energy transfer. hp always wins.
and do you even listen to yourself? tq drops out and hp takes over??? and real life follows formula's becuase formulas were derived from real world. i hate to say it, but your so ignorant on the matter that one cant even help you. more hp always produces more wheel tq. Your problem is understand how gearing affects tq output and how crank tq is involved... if my shit is wrong, then i guess you cant design motors too...you can stay slapping burgers, ill keep my mech. Engin. job...grow up
by the way logic to reason you are so mother effin annoying with your bullshit...get it thru your stubborn head, as many of us have already proved to you TQ matters end of discussion, w/o it nothing would move HP helps after TQ delivers it to the rotation part (shaft, tire, whatever)
whats more annoying is retards who refuse to learn anything new. and where did you prove tq matters more than hp! i have yet to see that post. 500tq@2000rpms is the same as 250tq@4000rpms. 2:1 gearing drops the 4000rpms to 2000, and mutliplies the tq by 2, resulting in the same power. its sad you cant sit and listen for a few minutes to educate yourself. hp is the tq avaliable at a certain rpm. tq changes by rpm. So that is why they coined the term HP! and its not bullshit. its physics
conservation of energy state. It you produce say 700hp. you have to account for all of it. i.e moving the mass, kinetic energy, energy losses etc... IF adding more tq without adding hp made a car faster then guess what?! your creating energy out of nothing. The only way to make a car faster is by adding power or energy. 500tq@1000rpms, IS NOT THE SAME AS 500tq@9,000rpms!!! get that through your worthless fucking brain you adolescent child! There are reasons FOR EDUCATION. if anyone with a ged
knew everything, then they wouldnt be universities! Im here telling you that crank tq doesnt mean shit! Would i tell someone that i make more money cuase my hourly wage is higher? OR does it not matter how LONG i work (hrs/wk)?
reducing the rpms by 2, doubles the tq output. hense 1,200lbs of tq@2000rpms is the fucking same as 400tq@6000rpms. thats why they BOTH have the same HP! who do you think knows more? You? or the combined knowledge of people over hundreds of years? if formula's DID not
Logic you really need to shut the fuck up. Until you go build a motor and race the fuckin vehicle shut the hell up. you another damn educated dumbass who has no common sense and think your right cause you read somethin in a damn book
Your Absolutely right which is why that diesel just kicked some pretty awesome butt...the fact that the comp. ration is probably around 11, or heck with 700 hp and prob. a single turbo lets say 12.5 or 13:1, that tq is created at a much lower rate so from the beginning it's almost like saying that the gas burner had no chance, not in a 1/4 mile anyway.
and if physics did not predict how things (molecules to car materials) interacted then You couldnt have 99.999% of the things you use dumb ass. You couldnt predict how gases are going to expand in your motor, you couldnt predict what spark timing to use, and you COULDNT predict what motor to use for a certina purpose. You couldnt predict how to build a bridge, you couldnt predict which antibodies to use for injections. Your so fucking stupid, you only cause frustration to those trying to help u
Damn a whole book to get try and convey your point is a little excessive. I don't care what you say tq matters and matters a lot. I have an education and I also
know that a car with 25hp/1tq is not going to win against a car with 25hp/25 tq. Tq is going to propell faster thus winning in the end. I don't give 2 shits about your explanation you know it true so don't try to bust out the calculation crap again!
Well then you're education is not in physics, therefor your opinion aint shit. There is NO FUCKING WAY 25hp Does more work than another 25 ho motor! why can't your simply mind understand that? If 25/25 made a car faster, then it wouldnt have the same hp rating...hp rating determines how much energy is in the car. if more tq same hp did more work your CREATING ENERGY! sure hope you didnt pay for your "education". either way... get a fucking refund. Be stupid... god damn your dumb
Ok first off, If you want to be a smart ass, you called it a motor, a motor uses electric energy. You want to use the term engine, and although your facts are very impressive, Im no physics major but I have a question I would like you to reason with. What if 2 identical cars (weight, aerodynamic wise) have different engines, one with 100 hp and 100 ft lbs tq for example, and the other has 90 hp and 90 ft lbs torque, the first car has 3:1 axle ratio in DD, and the other has 4:1. Which wins?
Oh...Engineer...very cool. Do us viewers a favor...you keep making our engines so we can enjoy them on you tube not condemning everyone that just enjoyed this awesome diesel clearly whooping that gas engine due to it's incredible amount of torque.
Then please describe to me...especially with gas powered engines how in many reoccurring cases, the torque is lower than the horsepower...take that same gas engine that has the SAME hp as a diesel...who wins?
Since a 500 hp diesel has around 1050 or more ft. lbs. tq, my money goes to the diesel and all of it's 8,000 lbs.
no,you want hp and the proper gearing to use that hp.you can have 500hp and 1000tq and i'll take 550hp and 450tq,both vehicles being equal weight and such.with the right gearing i'll win every time and you won't be able to do anything about about it
ha ha, wtf pt did he make? 500 hp can produce 550hp? WRONG!!! the amount of hp produce ( with rpm and tq output in mind) determines how fast a mass can accelerate... 500hp can move a wt faster at a lower velocity. To increase the acceleration at any velocity requires more power... take it from someone who designs motors rather than someone who slept through 10th grade physics and knows that 1000lbs of tq is higher than 500... .its an idea, therefor its more complicated that who has more tq!!!
its not an act..... if you want to call my bs then do it. Dont be a pussy and sit behind the idea thats its funny. If you Dont think i know what i say, then tell me and show me. i would say your funny but there is nothing funny about ignorance
think of it like this. You make, lets say, 50,000 a year. you get payed every other week, each check is for 1,923$. Someone else works the same job. But he gets payed every week, for 961$. so one guy gets payed 1/2 as much, but 2 times as often. At the end of the year, both make the same amount.. tq and rpm follow the same idea. you can have a superlarge motor, making 10,000lbs of tq, but revs@10rpms. 19hp. You could also have a motor that makes 10lbs of tq@10,000rpms. both produce 19hp
Nice , wat trans you running? Is it a 5.9 or 6.7
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SierraMan450 3 months ago
horsepower is good for nascar and any race that doesnt go from 0-whatever, my gsxr1k has more horsepower than my dads hayabusa but his busa has more torque than my 1k, so when the light turns green all i see are his tail lights
JMoore4291 4 months ago
I watch this video 12 min later and it still gets my rocks off.
SteveRon4 5 months ago
Groovy!
SteveRon4 5 months ago
whats done to it?
gangstacornholieo 5 months ago
it's to big engine dodge
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that thing must launch so hard haha. btw there really shouldn't be so much hate towards other american car makers especially in this kind of economy we should be promoting all american car makers to help stimulate our own economy. sure this is an awesome car but it doesn't mean you say things like "eat dat chevy fags" and "I think if a ford saw this truck it would shit its engine out." ive heard true car guys like all cars and true americans like all american cars.
ColtonKuhn1 6 months ago
Eat dat Chevy fags
rostine1980 6 months ago
I think if a ford saw this truck it would shit its engine out.
Bigalexander52 6 months ago
that was awesome!!
713ftw1 7 months ago
That's an awesome take-off. I dig it.
IronFox102 10 months ago
Damn awesome truck! I love that hood!
Deepinher01 1 year ago
A dyno measures torque and RPM, and then the dyno's computer calculates HP based on the torque and RPM curve.
HP=torque X RPM divided by 5252.
btcruz 1 year ago
It doesn't matter if an engine runs at 12,000 RPM or 3,000 RPM, if they are the same HP, they can do the same work (i.e. accelerate the same or go the same top speed). The difference will be in the torque output, but the gears are what exchanges the high RPM for torque at the drive wheels, and vice versa for the low RPM engine.
btcruz 1 year ago
Diesel engines are used in pulling and heavy work NOT because it puts out loads of torque. They're used because they last longer and get better mileage than a gas engine. Diesels make gobs of torque because they are RPM limited engines.
btcruz 1 year ago
@btcruz um dude, u got 2 out of 3 right.... they are ALSO used in pulling because they have alot of torque...,,,and they have a lot of torque because they have a large stroke which causes them not to be able to reach as high rpms as a lower stroke motor..
StreetStylz56 7 months ago
HP is a calculated figure, it isn't measured. It is the relationship of torque and RPM. You can trade one for the other. HP is the number that matters, not torque or RPM becuase it is all regulated with the gearing and transmission.
btcruz 1 year ago
that looks dam quick
ACumminsCan 1 year ago
I want that hood!
Deepinher01 1 year ago
Depends what kind of race. In nascar HP wins wins the race. In drags torque wins the race.
Dereks06 1 year ago
all you pussies stfu. Torque serves a purpose and so does HP. you need Torque to get off the line and you need HP to keep accelerating, so therefore YOU NEED BOTH TO WIN RACES. good lord fuckin youtube arguments.
2002j30a1 1 year ago
damm that was a crazy take off
kbmx13 2 years ago 3
good god! what is done to that thing?
jjjhedder 2 years ago 2
enzo ferrari said hp sells cars torque wins races
127069 2 years ago 44
@127069 thats not true, diesels are lower geared and have more torque so stock a gas would win but pulling a diesel would win so hp wins races not torque
hoythunting1 1 year ago
@hoythunting1 Il go with enzos theory,good torque pulls you out of corners obviously he didnt mean low end diesel torque or drag racing,but circuit racing
127069 1 year ago
@hoythunting1 a stock diesel will smoke any stock gas truck....
Adams01100 1 year ago
@Adams01100 get your head out of the clouds. ive had both and your full of shit.
alcitydan08 1 year ago
@127069 Actually...that was Carroll Shelby IDIOT *sarcasm alert* ;-) Actually both said it. Actually...we're not really sure. I think they both sat down one day, had a track day fist fight, and settled on one grand opinion. But that's my take on the whole thing...
Reaper87xx 1 year ago
@127069 ferrari makes garbage.
dtaft01 4 months ago
@dtaft01
127069 4 months ago
@127069 i know its been a year but im almost 100% sure that was carroll shelby
killer807ownz 4 months ago
@killer807ownz both shellby and ferrari were road racing pioneers so maybe they both said it
127069 4 months ago
whats done to this??
trynkeepuplol 2 years ago
Logic i don't know where you went to school but for some reason your arguing that hp=ma which is wrong. Horsepower is a rate of doing work, not a force. Power(Hp) = NT/5250 Where N is rpm and T is torque. More torque = more hp. Ricers build hp with rpm and diesels with torque. A lower hp vehicle can accelerate faster than a larger hp vehicle.
1981Firebird400 2 years ago 19
then y the fuck do we strive to get higher horsepower genius. if you ever get a chance. go drive a malibu. then get into a 10 sec car and tell me the malibu is faster
13wiley 2 years ago
he never said putting more hp in these trucks doesnt make them faster. but you gain more tourqe over hp in a diesel do to high compression and long stroke to boar ratio. you gain alot more tourqe then hp. you will never see a diesel truck with more hp then tourqe.
RM250D8rzr 2 years ago
@RM250D8rzr ig bad dodge has ~3000 hp and ~2500 tq if you dont believe me ask him for for yourself
jdutton100 1 year ago
@jdutton100 yeah thats a low compression diesel. thats when the hp is higher then the tq.
RM250D8rzr 1 year ago
@RM250D8rzr r u on drugs? that makes absolutely no sense the only reason people run lower compresion in a diesel is so they can cram more boost in there bringing compression right back up there is no suck diesel engine were horse power is greater than torque because it ran low compression
weeman516 1 year ago
@jdutton100 Yipe...not quite. More around 1900HP and 2500TQ without juice. The old BBD had a hair over 800HP and 1300TQ to the ground.
Reaper87xx 1 year ago
@RM250D8rzr false
jdutton100 1 year ago
@1981Firebird400 um....lol pls tell me that last line was a joke right???? lol
StreetStylz56 7 months ago
@1981Firebird400 well, you almost had it right.
Duckyistrippin 4 months ago
i like the aftermarket rims... seen them on a tacoma where i live
DominicGuitarist 2 years ago
theyre diamos
dltnellis 2 years ago
Logic...in all honesty your brilliant, but please I wish this information could have been brought upon in a whole different way...lol I promise the responses would not have instigated further into a pretty childish argument. Forgive me for my insults, but to be honest I was offended myself.
GENESIS01100 2 years ago
pity.
ScorpioFuror 2 years ago
Logic i am not understanding this. maybe u can help. My truck has 325hp stock. I did a thing or two to it so its running about 327hp now. so if i raced my brother witch has a truck with 230hp that i should win every time because i have more Hp.
kyler309 2 years ago
Logiclly ya but ther is alot of other things in that ... Trans, car, gearing.... Driver alot too.
HoundrUs 2 years ago
your all a bunch of kikes!
Randy8100 2 years ago
HEYY!!! lets all argue like little faggot kids =D
DieselMX34 2 years ago
GOD DAMN HOLY SHIT!!!!
DodgeRamFan11 2 years ago
to simplify what logic2reason is trying to say is that horsepower is how fast you hit the wall and torque is how far you push that wall after you hit it. lol i hate smart people like him!
powermad2001 2 years ago
17 sec video, 2 paragraph comments, yeah that makes sense
eunicejules 2 years ago
your truck is a piece a shit and langford sucks...
Blitzney 2 years ago
B_A truck dude
cameronclgn3 2 years ago
1200 lbs. Ft. or torque damn..
DiEGO2DaBAY 3 years ago
its all about hp. To make a mass move, as in to input kinetic energy, requires power. How much energy a motor can put into the system (system is the car in this case, just being the cars velocity) So make the same mass accelerate faster, requires more energy input per given time. This term, hp, is what it is referring to. 600hp, will move the same weight faster, than say 599hp or less. Tq output, as in crank tq, does not determine how fast somethign is. its the combination
logic2reason 2 years ago
hp isnt everything. well maybe if you're a ricer, they spend all that money on parts to boost their hp but it really comes down to torque mixed into the ratio. thats why they are still low at 350 fwhp
OneillSurf7 2 years ago
hp is everything. Physics says so. I suggest taking energy and power classes at your local school. Either you dont understand what the idea of "cannot create or destroy energy", or your a moron. So when a motor has say, 200hp. That 200hp must be accounted for, either by energy loss, or car movement. there is NO FUCKING way 200hp can move a car slower than 150hp. END OF FUCKING STORY. hp output already deals with rpm, ratio's and tq output. So arguing about it is POINTLESS!!
logic2reason 2 years ago
I agree to an extent but also disagree...a balance is good for gas in diesel it's all about compression for combustion...without torque that thing would be as fast as a Nissan Maxima......Torque (and turbo help) is what launches that truck like a slingshot off the line...basically in a diesel torque has a lot to do with how fast they are....i used to own and work on diesels...every time i increased ho it was nice as soon as i doubled the torque the truck turned into a monster from hell!
rrod234 2 years ago
im not argueing.... hp wins... always... thermodynamics says so, physics says so, and all PHYICS says so... power wins. more energy output, the fast it will be. the more power, the more it can pull ( based on velocity.). I do not care what you worked on. Energy ALWAYS WINS. its not an opinion, its a fucking fact. Argue with someone else. Cuase if your discussing motors, HP WINS... END oF DUCKING DISCUSSION!!!
logic2reason 2 years ago
a properly geared higher hp vehicle will always beat a lesser hp vehicle no matter the tq
osp80 2 years ago
I appreciate your "genius" but i thoroughly suggest the next time you would like to attack someone, I'm sure someone with an I.Q. such as yours would be able to spell correctly.
GENESIS01100 2 years ago
hp helps but if u want acceleration then u want high amounts of torque
jvallow 2 years ago
if you can accelerate a car faster with less power but more tq, then by defintion of laws of physics and THERMO, the motor is producing more power... its clear you are not educated enough to understand this concept... as sad at it is, its very simple... Everything is energy. To make a mass accelerate faster, requires more power/ energy... not tq. if tq made things faster (i.e. tq @ crank) then the term hp would not be created.... im sorry, but Hp always wins.. ALWAYS. I promise my life on it
logic2reason 2 years ago
and clearly, it doesnt matter how educated u think u r. just because it is logical, doesnt mean its true. i build cars. idc how much u dont think its true or ur science says is false. yes, the engine is producing more power. no shit. a kindergadener could have told me that. now go fail at life and try to sound smart somewhere else.
jvallow 2 years ago
awesome... to move a mass faster (i.e. acceleration) requires more energy imput... not crank tq... to increase acceleration, you need more hp... I know what i know, and i know what i dont... thats the difference. you hve no background on math or physics or energy... this is clear... so sit back and learn something for once. and if a kindergardener could tell you that, why not know what a kindergardener does? assclown
logic2reason 2 years ago
logic2reason you dont know shit
first of what makes wheels spin torque the torque creates acceleration and the hp creates the high speeds.
the fact is you right a little, with out hp nothing happens and without torque you have no wheel rotation.
now an example you can have a ram1500 with say 350 hp and 300tq and then have a f250 350 hp but 600 tq, tell me which one wins, the 250 because his tires can rotate much faster
jarom435 2 years ago
thermodynamics. cannot create or destroy ENERGY. hp is ENERGY... if you have 300hp going into a vehicle, then it will move it faster than 250hp... why, conservation of energy. YOu need to read some books before you start telling a mechanical engineer how power and energy works. tq does not create acceleration. I can apply tq to a bolt and not have it move. thus not accelerating... your idea's are flawed. To much so to fix in 500 characters.. Hp always wins... end of story..
logic2reason 2 years ago
torque makes the shaft spin then the shaft spins the axel and wheels move.
i am conducting an experiment to prove this with my college teacher and will post it
jarom435 2 years ago
yes that how tq is transfered. But you are leaving out TIME!!!!
Why does 400tq@2500rpms make the same power as 200tq@5000rpms.. If i take the 5000rpm shaft, fix it to a 2:1 gear ratio. Thus reducing the output shaft speed by 2. Then the tq also has to compensate for this. So the tq increases by 2. So taking 5000 down to 2500, means that 200 tq goes to 400.. thats why they make the same power. tq@ a specific speed= power. not just tq.
logic2reason 2 years ago
what is more sad, is that your college prof. is unaware of how tq is transfered. But anyways, its always about hp output. 1hp can put x amount of tq at a speed output shaft of set y. 2hp can put 2x amount of tq at a speed output shaft of set y. OR 2hp can put x amount of tq at a speed output shaft of set 2y. tqxrpm has to remain constant. ex. 2tq@2rpm= 4. if i change output to 1rpm. then tq has to be 4/1= 4. cuase 4tq@1rpm=4 no losses..
logic2reason 2 years ago
not necessarily, lol. energy is not just energy. energy is 1/2mv^2. a heavier car with the same horsepower will lose, obviously.
torque is 'rotational force'
whereas horsepower is power output.
zabcod 2 years ago
dude quit with your fucking physics calculations....that's only good on the drawing board..this is real life...perfect example of hp/tq so you shut the hell up is construction equipment......135kw/hp engine with 550tq if that bitch didn't have tq it wouldn't move at all, hp only helps it movealong at 15mph MAX....hp make the power tq is what distributes the power thru all speeds... jarom hit the nail on the head....stop arguing dipshit!
rrod234 2 years ago
the calculations CAME from real life.... its sad you dont realize this... and its not arguing... your ego is getting involved becuase all you understand it tq..what about rpm? Hp takes both of those into account. 5hp will put out 2 times the wheel tq as 2.5hp at any speed. HOW (tq) much crank tq is irrelavent. gearing can manipulate the difference between tq and rpm... its sad that your probably really old and still dont understand energy transfer. hp always wins.
logic2reason 2 years ago
and do you even listen to yourself? tq drops out and hp takes over??? and real life follows formula's becuase formulas were derived from real world. i hate to say it, but your so ignorant on the matter that one cant even help you. more hp always produces more wheel tq. Your problem is understand how gearing affects tq output and how crank tq is involved... if my shit is wrong, then i guess you cant design motors too...you can stay slapping burgers, ill keep my mech. Engin. job...grow up
logic2reason 2 years ago
by the way logic to reason you are so mother effin annoying with your bullshit...get it thru your stubborn head, as many of us have already proved to you TQ matters end of discussion, w/o it nothing would move HP helps after TQ delivers it to the rotation part (shaft, tire, whatever)
rrod234 2 years ago
whats more annoying is retards who refuse to learn anything new. and where did you prove tq matters more than hp! i have yet to see that post. 500tq@2000rpms is the same as 250tq@4000rpms. 2:1 gearing drops the 4000rpms to 2000, and mutliplies the tq by 2, resulting in the same power. its sad you cant sit and listen for a few minutes to educate yourself. hp is the tq avaliable at a certain rpm. tq changes by rpm. So that is why they coined the term HP! and its not bullshit. its physics
logic2reason 2 years ago
conservation of energy state. It you produce say 700hp. you have to account for all of it. i.e moving the mass, kinetic energy, energy losses etc... IF adding more tq without adding hp made a car faster then guess what?! your creating energy out of nothing. The only way to make a car faster is by adding power or energy. 500tq@1000rpms, IS NOT THE SAME AS 500tq@9,000rpms!!! get that through your worthless fucking brain you adolescent child! There are reasons FOR EDUCATION. if anyone with a ged
logic2reason 2 years ago
knew everything, then they wouldnt be universities! Im here telling you that crank tq doesnt mean shit! Would i tell someone that i make more money cuase my hourly wage is higher? OR does it not matter how LONG i work (hrs/wk)?
reducing the rpms by 2, doubles the tq output. hense 1,200lbs of tq@2000rpms is the fucking same as 400tq@6000rpms. thats why they BOTH have the same HP! who do you think knows more? You? or the combined knowledge of people over hundreds of years? if formula's DID not
logic2reason 2 years ago
Logic you really need to shut the fuck up. Until you go build a motor and race the fuckin vehicle shut the hell up. you another damn educated dumbass who has no common sense and think your right cause you read somethin in a damn book
budbullrider 2 years ago
Your Absolutely right which is why that diesel just kicked some pretty awesome butt...the fact that the comp. ration is probably around 11, or heck with 700 hp and prob. a single turbo lets say 12.5 or 13:1, that tq is created at a much lower rate so from the beginning it's almost like saying that the gas burner had no chance, not in a 1/4 mile anyway.
GENESIS01100 2 years ago
and if physics did not predict how things (molecules to car materials) interacted then You couldnt have 99.999% of the things you use dumb ass. You couldnt predict how gases are going to expand in your motor, you couldnt predict what spark timing to use, and you COULDNT predict what motor to use for a certina purpose. You couldnt predict how to build a bridge, you couldnt predict which antibodies to use for injections. Your so fucking stupid, you only cause frustration to those trying to help u
logic2reason 2 years ago
Damn a whole book to get try and convey your point is a little excessive. I don't care what you say tq matters and matters a lot. I have an education and I also
know that a car with 25hp/1tq is not going to win against a car with 25hp/25 tq. Tq is going to propell faster thus winning in the end. I don't give 2 shits about your explanation you know it true so don't try to bust out the calculation crap again!
rrod234 2 years ago
Well then you're education is not in physics, therefor your opinion aint shit. There is NO FUCKING WAY 25hp Does more work than another 25 ho motor! why can't your simply mind understand that? If 25/25 made a car faster, then it wouldnt have the same hp rating...hp rating determines how much energy is in the car. if more tq same hp did more work your CREATING ENERGY! sure hope you didnt pay for your "education". either way... get a fucking refund. Be stupid... god damn your dumb
logic2reason 2 years ago
If your going to use my God's name homeboy "education" I suggest you capitalize it at least.
GENESIS01100 2 years ago
Ok first off, If you want to be a smart ass, you called it a motor, a motor uses electric energy. You want to use the term engine, and although your facts are very impressive, Im no physics major but I have a question I would like you to reason with. What if 2 identical cars (weight, aerodynamic wise) have different engines, one with 100 hp and 100 ft lbs tq for example, and the other has 90 hp and 90 ft lbs torque, the first car has 3:1 axle ratio in DD, and the other has 4:1. Which wins?
kawirider206 2 years ago
rrod234 logic2reason
BOTH OF YOU ARE FUCKING LOSERS WHY DONT YOU BOTH GET A LIFE
josephmolin 2 years ago
Hey why don't joeblow me you fucking POS! You fuckin molin
rrod234 2 years ago
Oh...Engineer...very cool. Do us viewers a favor...you keep making our engines so we can enjoy them on you tube not condemning everyone that just enjoyed this awesome diesel clearly whooping that gas engine due to it's incredible amount of torque.
GENESIS01100 2 years ago
Then please describe to me...especially with gas powered engines how in many reoccurring cases, the torque is lower than the horsepower...take that same gas engine that has the SAME hp as a diesel...who wins?
Since a 500 hp diesel has around 1050 or more ft. lbs. tq, my money goes to the diesel and all of it's 8,000 lbs.
GENESIS01100 2 years ago
no,you want hp and the proper gearing to use that hp.you can have 500hp and 1000tq and i'll take 550hp and 450tq,both vehicles being equal weight and such.with the right gearing i'll win every time and you won't be able to do anything about about it
osp80 2 years ago
ahhhh yes thank you for that point i totally forgot about that. very good point made
jvallow 2 years ago
ha ha, wtf pt did he make? 500 hp can produce 550hp? WRONG!!! the amount of hp produce ( with rpm and tq output in mind) determines how fast a mass can accelerate... 500hp can move a wt faster at a lower velocity. To increase the acceleration at any velocity requires more power... take it from someone who designs motors rather than someone who slept through 10th grade physics and knows that 1000lbs of tq is higher than 500... .its an idea, therefor its more complicated that who has more tq!!!
logic2reason 2 years ago
you act like you know so much. haha its funny. and i love reading it. humor.
Amirstables 2 years ago
its not an act..... if you want to call my bs then do it. Dont be a pussy and sit behind the idea thats its funny. If you Dont think i know what i say, then tell me and show me. i would say your funny but there is nothing funny about ignorance
logic2reason 2 years ago
no exact opposite. u want tons on low end torque to start out then u want HP the rest of the way
xxlilxxcheadlexx 2 years ago
think of it like this. You make, lets say, 50,000 a year. you get payed every other week, each check is for 1,923$. Someone else works the same job. But he gets payed every week, for 961$. so one guy gets payed 1/2 as much, but 2 times as often. At the end of the year, both make the same amount.. tq and rpm follow the same idea. you can have a superlarge motor, making 10,000lbs of tq, but revs@10rpms. 19hp. You could also have a motor that makes 10lbs of tq@10,000rpms. both produce 19hp
logic2reason 2 years ago
lol.. that IS stupid fast
azkcr 3 years ago
damn...
lokoskater666 3 years ago
Wow. If that doesnt wet your pants nothing does. Nice truck guy
nflesher 3 years ago
ha mint, i was there that day.
phatkix 3 years ago
o my GOD.THIS IS UNREAL
HantzBv 3 years ago
trucks gone
shit...
skatingelement897 3 years ago
Awesome take off
Jimmetalrules5546 3 years ago
numbers??
Cbizzl 3 years ago
BIBBY YOU CRAZY!!!!!
douceiswild 3 years ago