Lol @ Cain not having an education. He double majored in Computer Science and Mathematics, with a Masters in CS...he worked with Missile Ballistics for the Navy, but he's no rocket scientist (oh wait, he was). That, plus his standing in the IT world with Coca Cola after the Navy and then again with his successes at Burger King and Godfather's Pizza indicate that he is one of the smartest men to ever run for president.
@jagriff333 he isn't. a MS in CS doesn't make you a rocket scientist. Rocket scientist are physicist and engineers. He may have particapated in some of the projects but he is no rocket scientist. Nor is he the smartest man to run for president. Bill clinton was a lawyer, Obama was a professor in law school, Ron paul is running and he was a medical doctor. All of whom have more impressive degrees than cain. A MS in CS is not that impressive.
@lilpolo20 I didn't say that his MS in CS made him a rocket scientist; his work with Missile Ballistics in the Navy did. One could argue that it takes more intellect to do well in math than it does to become a doctor or a lawyer. It's the abstract vs. memorization argument from intelligence theory. I also didn't say that he had the most impressive degrees, although I will say that his resume is quite good with his successes in math, computer science, and business.
@jagriff333 no it doesn't. I am a scientist myself and unless you are leading the team in this research, and actually know the ends and out of the missles like engineers or physicist would, he is not a rocket scientist. more like an IT person. Collecting data and maintaining spread sheets. That would be a foolish argument because both of those careers have to be well versed in math. doctors and lawyers do more than just memorize. way more. truthfully, im not that impressed.
@jagriff333 You try studying for the MCAT or the LSAT and tell me how much memorization it is. I have studied for the MCAT. Trust me, there isn't much. I have a degree in Chemisty and a minor in math. I am also going to graduate school in august to get my PH.D in analytical chemistry. His major is a joke compaired to mine. Anyone with a science degree gets a letter from the Navy. I recieved one asking me to join. Telling me that I would be a nuclear engineer officer. im not impressed one bit
@lilpolo20 Again, you're talking about his career in terms of degrees and majors. Sorry to disappoint, but being successful in college, no matter the degree, is not something that a dummy couldn't do. With that said, a dummy probably couldn't be successful in three different industries (in the real world, not college). Becoming a doctor or lawyer requires a ton of memorization. Yeah, there is some abstract thinking required, but in no way comparable to that of a mathematician.
@jagriff333 you are fucking out of your mind if you dont think being a doctor or a lawyer is way more than memorization. You would know that if you took the MCAT or LSAT like I told you, or talk to actual doctors and lawyers and see what they do. A degree in CS does not make you a mathematician. He doesn't even have to know as much math as a chemist does let alone a mathematician. Which is a PH.D by the way. Most of the math done is calculated out on computer programs anyway.
@jagriff333 His title is more impressive than what he actually does. You would know that if you were a scientist. Since your not, quit talking about something you have no idea about. im not saying that Herman Cain isn't smart but you stated he could have been the smartest. I am telling you that he isn't. I know what like is like in industry. I am in it myself. Scientist interact with each other constantly, so trust me when I tell you. He is at the bottom for the pole when it come to scientist
@lilpolo20 Did you even read what I said? He double majored and has a degree in both math AND cs. He worked as a mathematician during his time at the Navy (not an IT guy as you said earlier) when he worked with missile ballistics. I like how many assumptions you are making about not only what I have said, but my life experiences as well. It only goes to show that youtube is probably not the best place to have an intelligent discussion....big surprise! Later.
@jagriff333 did you even read what I said is the question. Unless you have a Ph.D, you are not a mathematician. If you were a scientist, you would know that. That is why I can rest so comfortable with my assupmptions. Deuces
@lilpolo20 Yeah, but I didn't have enough characters to say what I am going to say now. You don't have to have a Ph.D to be considered a mathematician. You are thinking of theoretical mathematicians, which mainly do research at universities and have graduate schooling. There are also applied mathematicians who apply mathematical principles in a real-world setting. As I have said, he worked as a mathematician at the Navy where he most likely supplemented engineers. I'm studying science
@jagriff333 A mathematician is a person whose primary area of study and research is the field of mathematics. People who apply mathematics to other fields, but do not contribute directly to mathematics, are generally not considered mathematicians. This is a pretty universal definition of a mathematician. You can say that Hermain Cain is smart, but the smartest president we have had. Hell no! He isn't even close. Im not impressed one bit.
@jagriff333 this is what you said. That, plus his standing in the IT world with Coca Cola after the Navy and then again with his successes at Burger King and Godfather's Pizza indicate that he is one of the smartest men to ever run for president.
What you said here is much different than what I said.
@philberz Clintons economy was in the dumpster until 94, when the Republicans took back Congress and forced him to sign their reforms. Clinton was utterly clueless what to do with the economy. If we would have passed his stupid Hillarycare law, we would have not had the economic boom at all.
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This is a video of Herman Cain having to explain the facts to Clinton as if he was a child. Even so, you can see that Bill is completely lost at 7:45. If you truly believe Clinton won this, you desperately need to pull the wool from over your eyes and wake up. Perhaps you even need to grow up.
Clinton did well here by using talking points, but Cain used facts and showed Clinton to be unlearned on the subject to anyone with eyes to see and ears to hear.
Cain told Clinton, "I'd had my financial people run the numbers".
Hummm... I wonder if it was the same financial people that came up with his 9-9-9 plan? If Bill looked confused, it was because what Cain was saying made no sense. Herman Cain is a sexist womanizing Bafoon who knows absolutely nothing about anything. If you think Herman Cain understands a fraction of what Bill Clinton knows, you are living in a fantasy world.
@ScullysBaby You base your opinion on Herman Cain off of opinions and unproven bullcrap. Bill Clinton is a proven "sexist womanizer," why not bring that up? Herman Cain is far more of an expert with numbers than you or Clinton ever will be. He has a Bachelor's degree in mathematics, a Masters in computer science, and worked full time as a ballistics analyst for the US Navy. If you're going to call someone a "bafoon," know what you're talking about. You clearly don't right now.
@AmyLeesPetWookiee Just as I thought.. you are living in a fantasy world apparently. Considering Herman Cain's idiotic statements & his mis-pronounciation of many words, I doubt he has much of an education. An since every economist has said his 999 plan was atrocious, I doubt he knows much about economics unless of course he is only interested in a plan that will benefit millionaires. Since he is Repugnicon, I'm sure that is the case, & unless you are also rich, you are a fool to support him.
@AmyLeesPetWookiee By the way, I have 2 masters degrees... what is your level of education dearie? Anyone who would support any of the GOP candidates and particularly one as inept as Herman Cain has to be fairly ignorant and gullible. Herman Cain is/was nothing more than a puppet of the Koch Brothers who have been trying to buy the government in order to have control of policy decisions for their own selfish benefit, at the expense of our freedom and true democracy. Cain is just their Stooge.
Hermain Cain is a damn "chosen one" globalist stooge who ran a FEDERAL RESERVE branch. He is what is wronge with this nation and you dumbasses better start researching candidates before you vote AGAIN! Shatter the left/right dempublican paradigm, they are the same thing. Carrol Quigley wrote about the 2 party sytem back in 1935 in "Tragedy and Hope" look it up, it is a means for control over the ignorant. WAKE UP! Cain is a Pillsbury chosen one!
PEOPLE ARE TALKING THAT RON IS NOT DOING ANYHING TO MINE THE NON-WHITE VOTEBANK
BUT WAIT A SECOND, THAT WOULD BE A CHEAP GIMMICK AND BE SUCCUMBING TO DIVISIVE POLITICS. RON DOES HIS DUTY AS A TRUE AMERICAN AND HE WONT PLAY CHEAP TRICKS FOR POPULARITY, WHO WOULD NOT BE TEMPTED TO GET MORE VOTES? - NOT ♥ RON PAUL ♥ HE STICKS HIS GROUND AND WANTS TO SAVE AMERICA AS A WHOLE
HE WANTS EVERY AMERICAN TO HAVE FINANCIAL COMFORT AND FREEDOM, HIS POLICY IS DEEPER THAN BLACK-WHITE-HISPANIC ETC,
Damn Clinton was a BEAST!! We all forget how ILL Bill was!! He was SHARP and smooth and he KNEW what the fuck he was talking about. Bill Clinton was DOPE. Damn there aren't any politicians out there who were as sharp as Bill Clinton.
President Cain WILL be elected, like it or not. Current Rasmussen Poll shows him leading the GOP field and the Failed NOBAMA is adrift with a dismal 42% Approval Poll only 11 months out from the election. Do you follow politics at all? Can you add/subtract? If so, then you know what these numbers mean, don't you? It's already over and the Token One-Term Communist Puppet is Out! To argue against the reality at this point is ignorant. Do you really think politics is like 4th Qtr Football...Idiots
Fick me, I forgot how good Bill Clinton was. I can't imagine any current politician could handle such a technical problem on the fly during a town hall.
@BorgMX5 Apperantly your math skills aren't any better than a 4th grade student's because Mr. Clinton didn't come close to handling a very simple math question.
Too bad Herman Cain could not "get" a "B" Average during his 1st yr. @ Morehouse College to maintain his scholarship, yet he is always bragging about his mathematics degree. Duh!
No wonder Cain could turn this company around. Most of the employees didn't even have health insurance. And he thinks he can manage something. Go figa'
What a bunch of propaganda! this might work on the republican sheeple but not on the people who actually research. Herman Cain might be good at the pizza business but he is clearly clueless on policy. Didn't even know about Israel and where they stand on the border conflict with Palestinians. That alone disqualifies him. CEO maybe but President not a chance, he would just be the mouth piece for all the so called smart people on his administration basically another G.W. Bush...1 was bad enough
Health care should not be controlled at all. It is totally unConstitutional for the Union gov. to be certifying medical treatments or doctors. It is against the principles of freedom. People need to choose what kind of health care they want for themselves on an open and free market
@Packerd01 You need to step outside of this ridiculous partisan hackery you are masquerading in. Do you freaking understand that my point was that we spend MORE money then everyone and we don't get a better system. That was my point. That spending more money wasn't getting us anywhere. I am literally done talking to you. You seriously would do well for yourself if you would drop this left-right BS.
@Packerd01 1) why would I trust a conservative's biased opinion on something so vast as healthcare? 2) educated smart logical people know how to spell logical. 3) An educated, smart, and logical person would look and see that we spend more per person on healthcare than any other country in the world and we still have the 37th best. It seems a logical person would ask why spending more money and having the best medical professionals in the world and the best we can do is 37th.
Obama went to the Republican demand for the individual mandate, so the Republican's turned back on themselves again.The Republican plan is to have no healthcare whatsoever.corporate welfare only,their agenda is whatever big corporations desire...Read a GAO report once in awhile,investigate independently. Think for yourself and stop following some pathetic lockstep propaganda .No lessons here, just Cain style calculations that won't hold up to scrutiny!.
Herman Cain(PERVERT) likes WHITE WOMEN, this Gangster Scumbag-he's offered Henry Kissinger a Secretary of State Job 2012,Do you remember the Nixon Years with Kissinger as Sec of State? Want some more of that? Cause he's a PERVERT; Herman asked for and got Secret Service protection at YOUR expense; can't he hire his own protection with his $hundreds of millions? Vote for RON PAUL or expect more WARS and DEBTS.
BLACK - YOUR PEOPLE ASKED FOR THE SAME RIGHTS AS WHITES AND TO BE FREE and here you are talking about TAKING AWAY GAY PEOPLES RIGHTS AND FREEDOM AND BEING PROUD TO BE WHO THEY ARE, JUST LIKE YOUR PROUD TO BE BLACK?
SHAME ON YOU!!
(I'm not offending any black person, this is just my personal message to Herman - the one who betraydes freedom and same rights for some other human beings, but I bet he's enjoying his other wise he wouldn't be running for president, but serving some white family).
Towards the end Bill Clinton knew Herman Cain was handing him his ass and made him look small and foolish---it's in his body language and he had had nothing to say except "send me your numbers" was his only out. Obama does not want to debate Cain, esp. if Cain asks publicly they do not use the teleprompter. Or even with the teleprompter Obama does not want to debate Herman Cain. He will be trounced.
@pumpsumiron Every atheist is praying on his or hers bare knees to make Cane Obama's opponent. Sadly, it will be the Mormon, who at least knows evolution is NOT a religion and who will continue the Affordable Care Act.
- End (and audit) the private bankers' “Federal” Reserve & the power for THEM to print OUR currency (Thomas Jefferson warned us)
- End the “Patriot” Act
- End the FEDERAL GOVERNMENTS' 40 year long UNSUCCESSFUL & COUNTERPRODUCTIVE war on our God given right to choose what we put in our bodies (The End of the War on Drugs)
- Cut 1 trillion dollars from the debt his 1st year & have the Budget Balanced in three
There is nothing unconstitutional about Obama Care. It does not REQUIRE a person to have health insurance, what it does is add a TAX to people who do not have health insurance. The government has the right to tax. - The government is forced to pay billions each year to hospitals to pick up the tab of patients without health coverage. This tax will help pay that bill, so we can stop digging ourselves into a dept hole. (This was initially a Republican idea and why I support it, check out Mass!)
Then how in the hell do we have the 37th best health care system in the world?! I have stopped listening to people who think the status quo is acceptable and bury their face in the sand without offering any of their own suggestions.
@pnggolfer9 Sadly, it's not just REALLY BAD health care, it's about everything:
youtube . com /watch?v=cZ7LzE3u7Bw
There is NO measure where the US does better than any other rich market democracy. Oh wait. There's more troops dying for the sake of billionaires than any other country, including the very poor. I guess that's something.
And at least our billionaires are not as poor as the Swedish or Japanese billionaires, man, THOSE are really, really poor.
Clinton is one slick willy. He starts throwing out all kinds of numbers knowing that that will just confuse most of the audience and make him look like a genius.
@NjShockandAwe Sure thing, bud... there's eye witness testimony from multiple witnesses against your little theory, anything you can offer in it's favor?? Didn't think so...
Herman wont even have to force Sarah Palins head down onto his junk. She will start bouncing like her daughter Bristol. I think they call it dancing with the stars. Cain is a pervert wanker for bankers. I would love to see the new republican Koch nation where Palin as VP, bounces on Cains meat and screams out 9/9/9.
i figure it out herman cain,,,999 =666 cain=cocain ,,,now the joke of the day,,herman cain so black that when he was born all flashlights went on sale....
There's a stranger in my bed. Think I made her give me head. Spittle all over the room. Is poor Ricky gonna lose? Can't believe I got this far. Palins passed out in the yard. Pizzas on the barbeque. Is my campaign just a ruse?
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Voters on the right, readin' up online, I'm screwed. OH WELL.- It's a trumped up charge, but I'm pretty sure its trueee. DAMN!
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Back in 99, yeah I think i touched some butts. Didn't think that i'd be caught. Think we kissed but i "forgot"
I lived in one of these "cheaper" countries, the Dominican Republic, where I could buy Penicillin for $5 per series. But, when i carried a man (married, w/10 kids) dying of a heart attack into a hospital, they told me I would have to go to the nation's capitol cuz they had no trauma unit. He died in my arms in a taxi on the way. You quote "cheap" health care in SA countries, but ignore the relative value of their money. AND their h-care sucks! You who "laud" all these SA countries are dumb.
Ron Paul for President! 2012! He knew that the 2008 economic fall would happen and he knew how to stop it but no one would listen, among hundreds of lying politicians he stands out for his consistency in telling the truth, Ron Paul has never voted for an unbalanced budget, is for low taxes, wants to bring home our troops and fights constantly for your personal liberties. Ron Paul knows what he needs to do to make the U.S.A a better place all he needs is the chance to make it happen. R. Paul '12
Herman Cain has been hired and used by the Coch brothers, to further thier minority crushing, rich white people protecting agenda, Mr Cain is acually officially on the payroll, pushing a cold "white racist" agenda on his own people, he gets paid to say the things they wish they could, like if you dont have a job its your own fault and racism doesnt exist anymore, these are the things white racist men say around the water cooler, now they found a black guy they could use to spew that crap!!!!
Herman Cain is very smart but I'd like to know his solutions . He seemed to of been able to dismantle clintons flawed health policy but does Herman have any thing to offer?
Ah, so I have Herman Cain to thank for the highest costs and worst outcomes out of the top 30 industrialized countries in the world.
Did you know that Costa Ricans and Chileans have better health outcomes, and have a single payer system that costs a fraction of ours? We can't do better than the 3rd world? Really??
@vatoencabronado A blatant lie that you have come to believe, but you are wrong. Where do the worlds wealthiest people go to find the healthcare they need? America, even the prime minister of Canada came to America for surgery, yet Canada has nationalized healthcare. You need to quit reading the lies about how bad America's healthcare system is and quit believing that 3rd world countries have better healthcare than America. Next time you need surgery, go to Cuba and get educated.
@onevike Uh, no, it's true, and unlike you, I have data, not anecdote... Rich people will always have private health care, and pay for it. The idea is to bring basic health services to the 40,000,000 Americans that don't have any. Google 'health care budget deficit calculator', and you'll see the 30 other countries with better outcomes and lower costs than the US. You can even substitute their costs for ours, and see our unfunded liabilities turn into surpluses!
@onevike Well, we know if he's one of the 45 million uninsured he won't be getting any care in the U.S., unless he's willing to go bankrupt and never pay the bill. The U.S. system is failing. These other nations have much better outcomes and the statistics have been telling us that for years.
@onevike It's not a lie at all. I also like how you mention Cuba when Cuba's not in the conversation. Strawman fail. Maybe you should do some research before oyu publish comments.
@qing333 Bull, I make less than $35,000 a year and I have access to great healthcare. My brother had a heart attack last year and he is unemployed, Yet he was rushed to the hospital where he was saved, and they ended up performing a bypass operation on him when he was strong enough to handle it. So don't tell me that normal Americans who have limited income do not have access to the best healthcare in the world. When you keep swallowing the lies from the left, you remain ignorant to the truth.
@onevike Not everyone is as lucky as you. As many as 122 people a day die from lack of medical insurance. Our system works well for you and those with money because the system is designed to push the sick and poor out of the line to shorten the it so you and Warren Buffet can get the best medical treatment as quickly as possible. The current system comes with serious repercussions to lower class America that you don't feel. Or maybe you don't care. Btw im sure that 2nd story of urs is a lie.
@onevike And how fucking much is he shoveling them now after all the costs. Our hospitals are obligated to treat us, in time of emergency. But after everything, we need to pay their cost, go in debt and fight to have a decent life. Under universal healthcare, a person doesnt have to worry. Everyone gets good healthcare and the only reason people have to end up waiting for the care is because EVERYONE gets the care they need. Not just rich fucks who can afford the greatest money can buy.
@onevike How much debt does your brother have now? Or did he just declare bankruptcy so that the rest of the American people end up paying his bill with increasing costs? The fact of the matter, is that healthcare costs have risen because of our flawed insurance system. You may be fortunate enough to have excellent insurance at your pay grade, but that is not the reality that many Americans live with.
@juarezrt I pay for my own insurance with Blue Cross and Blue Shield, but currently Obama is trying to screw it up with his stupid regulations. Long before the law stated a hospital could not refuse anyone, the Churches took care of people. What you liberal Christian hating leftists don't want to understand is that until Christianity began spreading their were no hospitals. Men would die on the side of the street with no help. Christian began helping even those who hated them.
That's great that you're able to pay for your insurance all by yourself. Does your job help?
I can't afford that, and my job does not help. Even if I could, the only health issue I have is my bad back, which will most likely not be covered since its a pre-existing condition. so what's the point of paying for it?
What church do you recommend I visit so they can take care of my health care bills? I didn't know it was that easy.
BTW, I am NOT a "liberal Christian hating leftist".
@onevike Those who have money will go anywhere to get the best service. American healthcare may be the best at the upper echelons of care, but it also costs the most.
@onevike "Where do the worlds wealthiest people go to find the healthcare they need?" -> I have 2 problems with that question. One, I have difficulty with that logic: the best healthcare if you could pay it, otherwise... It's like saying "we get the best education, Harvard", sure, but forget about all these kids in North Charleston military magnet. What are the odd of finding one over the other?
Secondly, what about the Klinik Hirslanden in Zurich? Point is, rich get health care where they want
@vatoencabronado I am originally from So. America and I have to tell you, nationalized health care DOES NOT WORK. My mother wasn't feeling well for about 6 months before she actually got to see an especialist and it took them 3 months to diagnose her with stomach cancer. The machinery was always broken and the lines are always long. You make an appt for 10am, you have to get there at 5am to be seen at 2pm. it's a disgrace! My mother passed away 4 mos after the diagnosis.
@vatoencabronado Costa Ricans don't shoot each other. They also eat nothing but beans, rice, plantains and lean meat. More of their people do physical labor as a part of their jobs. Soccer, which is a great aerobic activity, is also the most popular sport. In America, we eat poorly, smoke, drink, and sit at desks for several hours at a time.
@shepf2 Costa Ricans live longer than Americans (regardless that, contrary to your assertion, they have a much higher homicide rate) and their health care system costs much less. If our system was better, it would make up for the fact that we don't eat as healthy. If the 'market' worked the way Cain pretends it does, individual medical procedures and drugs would cost much much less here because there are so many procedures and so many people on drugs, the per unit cost should be lower. It's not.
@shepf2 It's not just because they lead healthier lives, the type of system they have it also different than in the US. The US is not as homogenous as smaller countries, but because our system is so expensive, regardless of the type of life I live, our costs per person are much higher.
I'm not pretending anything about our system, people like Herman Cain are, that's my point...
@vatoencabronado Herman Cain's point is that Clinton's healthcare law would have increased the cost of providing coverage for his employees. What was yours, and how does it invalidate his?
@shepf2 It might very well have increased his costs, but it's because of the cost of health care, not from having to cover everyone. This is a very important distinction. If healthcare cost the same as it does in 30 other industrialized countries that have better health outcomes than the US, our unfunded liabilities would turn into surpluses.
Republicans just think about universal health care as covering everyone, and leaving the costs alone to balloon as projected. That is unsustainable.
@vatoencabronado Herman Cain didn't know that China ALREADY HAS NUKES, said he was going to prevent them from getting nukes. I kid you not. More embarrassing than the sexual accusations against him.
@vechorik Exactly, he's not even aware of the world around him, I don't want him negotiating with someone that he doesn't understand on even the most basic of levels.
@zoomerlawns I've travelled throughout latin america, and as bad as they might be, they still have better health outcomes than the US. The same hold true for 30 other countries with lower costs and better outcomes.
@vatoencabronado Better health outcomes? What kind of procedures are they carrying out? Or are the hospitals more like glorified clinics? I'll admit, If you have a skinned knee, you may get treated faster in Costa Rica, but if you have a brain tumor I don't think ice packs and an aspirin is considered a better health outcome.
@zoomerlawns Look up health outcomes in wikipedia, that's the measure by which 30 other countries with much lower health care costs, including Costa Rica and Chile. Most of the countries are European, but the fact that Chile and Costa Rica are on the list ought to tell us something about our current system.
@orangeblood307 Brainwashed? I've got verifiable data, what have you got? Anecdote and not much else...
I rest my case. Google Health Care Budget Deficit Calculator, and you'll find 30 other countries with better health outcomes, and what our projected deficit or surplus would look like utilizing any one of those 30 countries costs.
Of course, there is always the chance that you're not interested in data and fact...
@vatoencabronado If you really think Costa Rica has a better quality of healthcare than you're highly misinformed.
Who cares if 30 other countries have lower healthcare costs? Have you considered the cost of living in those countries?? The people are getting taxed at every angle in those countries to pay for HC. Why do you think almost every country in Europe have the highest costs of living in the world?
@orangeblood307 They have better health outcomes. If you want to understand what that means, google is your friend.
Who cares about healthcare costs?? Conservatives!! The GOP... have you seen the projections?? We don't need to tax everyone at the same rates as Europe in order to control health care costs. You're changing the subject because you have no argument. It's ok, Herman Cain can't get beyond jingoism, either!
@vatoencabronado I'm a Ron Paul supporter so I really don't give 1 shit about Herman Cain. But, my point is: we don't need the federal government involved in every aspect of our lives like they are overseas.... And Obamacare is just pure fascism, the government forcing people and employers to buy HC from health insurance companies is morally wrong and will only lead to massive job loss. Once we get rid of Obamacare then we can talk about serious reforms.
@orangeblood307 You're right we dont' need the federal government involved in every aspect of our lives, and many Europeans countries that you refer to are indeed much freer than we are, in practice. As a Ron Paul supporter, why defend or give assistance to someone that has absolutely no substance?
Also, you dont' know the definition of fascism. Google is your friend... If anything Obamacare is a weak extension of medicare, it's not fascism.
@vatoencabronado Call it what you want to call it but Obamacare MANDATES people to purchase something, rather they want it or not. Something the government should NEVER have the power to do. What will they mandate us to do next?? We're not fucking slaves.
Employers are already having massive lay-offs just to account for when Obamacare is in affect, including my own dad. People think job loss is bad now, just wait til this takes affect.
@orangeblood307 Your dad, huh? Wow, hard to counter that anecdotal evidence... Listen, you dont know much about economics, but you do care about your country, which is commendable. We're going to part ways at this point for the same reason that most internet conversations should end...
@orangeblood307 There are several precedents to the Supreme Courts affirming the federal government the power to do just this. Why do you think that every case against this portion of the amendment that has received a judgement has been thrown out?
@pnggolfer9 Several courts have ruled it unconstitutional. But, I honestly don't care what the courts have to say, they don't rule me. It's morally wrong for the federal government to MANDATE it's citizens to buy anything, especially HC from health insurance companies. Just ask any employer what he's going to have to do to make up for the costs of this bill. I just hope this is ended once it gets to the Supreme Court.
@orangeblood307 So court decisions don't "rule" over you? Really?! Ok, some state courts have ruled it unconstitutional, lets see when it does make it to the supreme court. Also, why do you think employers need to provide insurance at all? They are one of the biggest causes for increases health care costs to begin with!
@pnggolfer9 2 state courts have ruled it unconstitutional and 2 state courts have ruled it constitutional. And no, they don't rule me. You act as if we're just property of the federal government.
I like your videos on your channel. What part of the Dominican were you at?? I just got back from Higuey, Punta Cana last week. It's beautiful down there.
@orangeblood307 Well, I disagree with you that the courts don't rule you. They interpret laws (most of the time) through the eyes of the constitution. These rulings do in effect have significant outcomes which affect every American. You can interpret that as being ruled or not.
I have been to DR three times in the last year and am going this December. I love it there. I have many close friends that live there who I visit whenever I can.
@orangeblood307 You have obviously never been to those countries. Also, the cost is relative to GDP. So go read a freaking book and travel outside your border.
@pnggolfer9 Lol, what would you know about me, dipshit? I'm only 22 and have been to 5 countries outside of the US and I was scared shitless of getting sick there, especially a couple weeks ago when I was in the Domincan Republic. I've honestly NEVER been so grateful to live in the US ever since I got back from there. Go play some golf instead of judging people you have no clue about.
@orangeblood307 I lived overseas in South America at your age, and was actually sad upon my return here. I think it has more to do with the individual rather than any danger a given 3rd world country represents. Of course, I did grow up on the border with Mexico, across from Juarez, so maybe it wasn't that big of a shock.
@flameboy63 Umm, well, I'm the only one with data from the CBO, and UN health organizations, etc... if you're able to show me how I'm misinformed, please do, I'd love to see it.
I just watched it again and he is full of shit! At the beginning he says 9/10 people are insured through there employers and there he says 2/3 people in his own company are not insured. He needs to practice what he preeches!! I want Bill Back!
POW ... backhanded @ 8:17
BearCatManCan311 1 month ago
I WILL BACKHAND BILL CLINTON
BearCatManCan311 1 month ago
That's one long fucking question — L.O.L.
Commando303X 1 month ago
Pizza Hut is better then Godfather Pizza.
royaladam 1 month ago
Hows the pizza these days uncle Tom??....Clinton, the most successful and popular president with the best economy....Cain the pizza guy, umm who???
Phantomplayz 1 month ago
Lol @ Cain not having an education. He double majored in Computer Science and Mathematics, with a Masters in CS...he worked with Missile Ballistics for the Navy, but he's no rocket scientist (oh wait, he was). That, plus his standing in the IT world with Coca Cola after the Navy and then again with his successes at Burger King and Godfather's Pizza indicate that he is one of the smartest men to ever run for president.
jagriff333 1 month ago
@jagriff333 he isn't. a MS in CS doesn't make you a rocket scientist. Rocket scientist are physicist and engineers. He may have particapated in some of the projects but he is no rocket scientist. Nor is he the smartest man to run for president. Bill clinton was a lawyer, Obama was a professor in law school, Ron paul is running and he was a medical doctor. All of whom have more impressive degrees than cain. A MS in CS is not that impressive.
lilpolo20 1 month ago
@lilpolo20 I didn't say that his MS in CS made him a rocket scientist; his work with Missile Ballistics in the Navy did. One could argue that it takes more intellect to do well in math than it does to become a doctor or a lawyer. It's the abstract vs. memorization argument from intelligence theory. I also didn't say that he had the most impressive degrees, although I will say that his resume is quite good with his successes in math, computer science, and business.
jagriff333 1 month ago
@jagriff333 no it doesn't. I am a scientist myself and unless you are leading the team in this research, and actually know the ends and out of the missles like engineers or physicist would, he is not a rocket scientist. more like an IT person. Collecting data and maintaining spread sheets. That would be a foolish argument because both of those careers have to be well versed in math. doctors and lawyers do more than just memorize. way more. truthfully, im not that impressed.
lilpolo20 1 month ago
@jagriff333 You try studying for the MCAT or the LSAT and tell me how much memorization it is. I have studied for the MCAT. Trust me, there isn't much. I have a degree in Chemisty and a minor in math. I am also going to graduate school in august to get my PH.D in analytical chemistry. His major is a joke compaired to mine. Anyone with a science degree gets a letter from the Navy. I recieved one asking me to join. Telling me that I would be a nuclear engineer officer. im not impressed one bit
lilpolo20 1 month ago
@lilpolo20 Again, you're talking about his career in terms of degrees and majors. Sorry to disappoint, but being successful in college, no matter the degree, is not something that a dummy couldn't do. With that said, a dummy probably couldn't be successful in three different industries (in the real world, not college). Becoming a doctor or lawyer requires a ton of memorization. Yeah, there is some abstract thinking required, but in no way comparable to that of a mathematician.
jagriff333 1 month ago
@jagriff333 you are fucking out of your mind if you dont think being a doctor or a lawyer is way more than memorization. You would know that if you took the MCAT or LSAT like I told you, or talk to actual doctors and lawyers and see what they do. A degree in CS does not make you a mathematician. He doesn't even have to know as much math as a chemist does let alone a mathematician. Which is a PH.D by the way. Most of the math done is calculated out on computer programs anyway.
lilpolo20 1 month ago
@jagriff333 His title is more impressive than what he actually does. You would know that if you were a scientist. Since your not, quit talking about something you have no idea about. im not saying that Herman Cain isn't smart but you stated he could have been the smartest. I am telling you that he isn't. I know what like is like in industry. I am in it myself. Scientist interact with each other constantly, so trust me when I tell you. He is at the bottom for the pole when it come to scientist
lilpolo20 1 month ago
@lilpolo20 Did you even read what I said? He double majored and has a degree in both math AND cs. He worked as a mathematician during his time at the Navy (not an IT guy as you said earlier) when he worked with missile ballistics. I like how many assumptions you are making about not only what I have said, but my life experiences as well. It only goes to show that youtube is probably not the best place to have an intelligent discussion....big surprise! Later.
jagriff333 1 month ago
@jagriff333 did you even read what I said is the question. Unless you have a Ph.D, you are not a mathematician. If you were a scientist, you would know that. That is why I can rest so comfortable with my assupmptions. Deuces
lilpolo20 1 month ago
@lilpolo20 Yeah, but I didn't have enough characters to say what I am going to say now. You don't have to have a Ph.D to be considered a mathematician. You are thinking of theoretical mathematicians, which mainly do research at universities and have graduate schooling. There are also applied mathematicians who apply mathematical principles in a real-world setting. As I have said, he worked as a mathematician at the Navy where he most likely supplemented engineers. I'm studying science
jagriff333 1 month ago
@jagriff333 A mathematician is a person whose primary area of study and research is the field of mathematics. People who apply mathematics to other fields, but do not contribute directly to mathematics, are generally not considered mathematicians. This is a pretty universal definition of a mathematician. You can say that Hermain Cain is smart, but the smartest president we have had. Hell no! He isn't even close. Im not impressed one bit.
lilpolo20 1 month ago
@lilpolo20 Again you put words in my mouth...why do I waste my time?
jagriff333 1 month ago
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@jagriff333 this is what you said. That, plus his standing in the IT world with Coca Cola after the Navy and then again with his successes at Burger King and Godfather's Pizza indicate that he is one of the smartest men to ever run for president.
What you said here is much different than what I said.
lilpolo20 1 month ago
Clinton was behind one of the strongest economies in U.S history. Cain ran a fuckin pizza place. Kind of a no brainer.
philberz 1 month ago
@philberz Clintons economy was in the dumpster until 94, when the Republicans took back Congress and forced him to sign their reforms. Clinton was utterly clueless what to do with the economy. If we would have passed his stupid Hillarycare law, we would have not had the economic boom at all.
tflst5 1 month ago
Herman was pry thinking "I can't wait till this interview is over so I can fuck this white bitch right next to me"
lahardcore13 2 months ago
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RapsAlive 2 months ago
The guy who posted this video must have been as confused as Clinton with what Cain said, but unlike Clinton this guy didn't realize it was BULLSHIT
meduchile1 2 months ago
Herman cain is a complete idiot...he couldn't even keep a b average in math that's why they pulled his math scolly...cain couldn't hold bills jock
lahardcore13 2 months ago
This is a video of Herman Cain having to explain the facts to Clinton as if he was a child. Even so, you can see that Bill is completely lost at 7:45. If you truly believe Clinton won this, you desperately need to pull the wool from over your eyes and wake up. Perhaps you even need to grow up.
Clinton did well here by using talking points, but Cain used facts and showed Clinton to be unlearned on the subject to anyone with eyes to see and ears to hear.
AmyLeesPetWookiee 2 months ago
@AmyLeesPetWookiee
Cain told Clinton, "I'd had my financial people run the numbers".
Hummm... I wonder if it was the same financial people that came up with his 9-9-9 plan? If Bill looked confused, it was because what Cain was saying made no sense. Herman Cain is a sexist womanizing Bafoon who knows absolutely nothing about anything. If you think Herman Cain understands a fraction of what Bill Clinton knows, you are living in a fantasy world.
ScullysBaby 2 months ago
@ScullysBaby You base your opinion on Herman Cain off of opinions and unproven bullcrap. Bill Clinton is a proven "sexist womanizer," why not bring that up? Herman Cain is far more of an expert with numbers than you or Clinton ever will be. He has a Bachelor's degree in mathematics, a Masters in computer science, and worked full time as a ballistics analyst for the US Navy. If you're going to call someone a "bafoon," know what you're talking about. You clearly don't right now.
AmyLeesPetWookiee 2 months ago
@AmyLeesPetWookiee Just as I thought.. you are living in a fantasy world apparently. Considering Herman Cain's idiotic statements & his mis-pronounciation of many words, I doubt he has much of an education. An since every economist has said his 999 plan was atrocious, I doubt he knows much about economics unless of course he is only interested in a plan that will benefit millionaires. Since he is Repugnicon, I'm sure that is the case, & unless you are also rich, you are a fool to support him.
ScullysBaby 2 months ago
@AmyLeesPetWookiee By the way, I have 2 masters degrees... what is your level of education dearie? Anyone who would support any of the GOP candidates and particularly one as inept as Herman Cain has to be fairly ignorant and gullible. Herman Cain is/was nothing more than a puppet of the Koch Brothers who have been trying to buy the government in order to have control of policy decisions for their own selfish benefit, at the expense of our freedom and true democracy. Cain is just their Stooge.
ScullysBaby 2 months ago
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Hermain Cain is a damn "chosen one" globalist stooge who ran a FEDERAL RESERVE branch. He is what is wronge with this nation and you dumbasses better start researching candidates before you vote AGAIN! Shatter the left/right dempublican paradigm, they are the same thing. Carrol Quigley wrote about the 2 party sytem back in 1935 in "Tragedy and Hope" look it up, it is a means for control over the ignorant. WAKE UP! Cain is a Pillsbury chosen one!
watch?v=ZPWH5TlbloU
aquaimage13 2 months ago
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dude, you can't write this stuff with horrible grammar
neilprasad 2 months ago
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PEOPLE ARE TALKING THAT RON IS NOT DOING ANYHING TO MINE THE NON-WHITE VOTEBANK
BUT WAIT A SECOND, THAT WOULD BE A CHEAP GIMMICK AND BE SUCCUMBING TO DIVISIVE POLITICS. RON DOES HIS DUTY AS A TRUE AMERICAN AND HE WONT PLAY CHEAP TRICKS FOR POPULARITY, WHO WOULD NOT BE TEMPTED TO GET MORE VOTES? - NOT ♥ RON PAUL ♥ HE STICKS HIS GROUND AND WANTS TO SAVE AMERICA AS A WHOLE
HE WANTS EVERY AMERICAN TO HAVE FINANCIAL COMFORT AND FREEDOM, HIS POLICY IS DEEPER THAN BLACK-WHITE-HISPANIC ETC,
ashwadhwani 2 months ago
Lol..cain compared to clinton?...im sure ole billy knows a thing or 2 about libya...ron paul is the only republican I like...bill was a Rhode scholar
lahardcore13 2 months ago
Damn Clinton was a BEAST!! We all forget how ILL Bill was!! He was SHARP and smooth and he KNEW what the fuck he was talking about. Bill Clinton was DOPE. Damn there aren't any politicians out there who were as sharp as Bill Clinton.
MegaGolgo13 2 months ago
clinton totally pwned him here!
OettingerCroat 2 months ago
Even though it should make sense, it feels very weird to me that Herman Cain existed in 1994. Don't ask me why. It just does.
Maserati7200 2 months ago
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HERMAN IS SAYS:
Being GAY in a COMMITED relationship is BAD
BUT
Being STRAIGHT in a RELATIONSHIP & HAVE MULTIPLE AFFAIRS is GOOD?
He's saying that being an ADULTER is more acceptable then a loyal Gay Couple?
By the way HE'S BISEXUAL cause bi's are the ONLY ones that can choose from one of the 2 sexes (he says that being gay is a choice)!
NuLaifMusic 3 months ago
Slick Willey. Wow!
newwavekitty 3 months ago
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President Cain WILL be elected, like it or not. Current Rasmussen Poll shows him leading the GOP field and the Failed NOBAMA is adrift with a dismal 42% Approval Poll only 11 months out from the election. Do you follow politics at all? Can you add/subtract? If so, then you know what these numbers mean, don't you? It's already over and the Token One-Term Communist Puppet is Out! To argue against the reality at this point is ignorant. Do you really think politics is like 4th Qtr Football...Idiots
RETROPOPS69 3 months ago
Damm..clinton was smooth and smart...to think off the top of your head like that with no prep...awesome
lahardcore13 3 months ago
@lahardcore13 yes...even tho he's bull shitting....kinda like cain does now...
MrGiggity890 2 months ago
Fick me, I forgot how good Bill Clinton was. I can't imagine any current politician could handle such a technical problem on the fly during a town hall.
BorgMX5 3 months ago
@BorgMX5 Apperantly your math skills aren't any better than a 4th grade student's because Mr. Clinton didn't come close to handling a very simple math question.
capitalismforme 3 months ago
@BorgMX5 ron paul
MrGiggity890 2 months ago
Hail mr. Clinton ... It's just sad that current time America is light year from this kind of sane discussion.
Jarmo187 3 months ago
Too bad Herman Cain could not "get" a "B" Average during his 1st yr. @ Morehouse College to maintain his scholarship, yet he is always bragging about his mathematics degree. Duh!
No wonder Cain could turn this company around. Most of the employees didn't even have health insurance. And he thinks he can manage something. Go figa'
IamNeutral 3 months ago
What a bunch of propaganda! this might work on the republican sheeple but not on the people who actually research. Herman Cain might be good at the pizza business but he is clearly clueless on policy. Didn't even know about Israel and where they stand on the border conflict with Palestinians. That alone disqualifies him. CEO maybe but President not a chance, he would just be the mouth piece for all the so called smart people on his administration basically another G.W. Bush...1 was bad enough
MrJCuesta81 3 months ago
actually, it's -.5 %
joshanator1 3 months ago
Health care should not be controlled at all. It is totally unConstitutional for the Union gov. to be certifying medical treatments or doctors. It is against the principles of freedom. People need to choose what kind of health care they want for themselves on an open and free market
joyfulsurety 3 months ago
@Packerd01 You need to step outside of this ridiculous partisan hackery you are masquerading in. Do you freaking understand that my point was that we spend MORE money then everyone and we don't get a better system. That was my point. That spending more money wasn't getting us anywhere. I am literally done talking to you. You seriously would do well for yourself if you would drop this left-right BS.
pnggolfer9 3 months ago
@Packerd01 1) why would I trust a conservative's biased opinion on something so vast as healthcare? 2) educated smart logical people know how to spell logical. 3) An educated, smart, and logical person would look and see that we spend more per person on healthcare than any other country in the world and we still have the 37th best. It seems a logical person would ask why spending more money and having the best medical professionals in the world and the best we can do is 37th.
pnggolfer9 3 months ago
Cain's calculations ? like 999 ?
Obama went to the Republican demand for the individual mandate, so the Republican's turned back on themselves again.The Republican plan is to have no healthcare whatsoever.corporate welfare only,their agenda is whatever big corporations desire...Read a GAO report once in awhile,investigate independently. Think for yourself and stop following some pathetic lockstep propaganda .No lessons here, just Cain style calculations that won't hold up to scrutiny!.
jimingrapevine 3 months ago
Cain was good in this one. He's not supposed to BE president, he is supposed to tell the president what to do! look for CAIN DANCE!
LightningEyeball 3 months ago
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Herman Cain(PERVERT) likes WHITE WOMEN, this Gangster Scumbag-he's offered Henry Kissinger a Secretary of State Job 2012,Do you remember the Nixon Years with Kissinger as Sec of State? Want some more of that? Cause he's a PERVERT; Herman asked for and got Secret Service protection at YOUR expense; can't he hire his own protection with his $hundreds of millions? Vote for RON PAUL or expect more WARS and DEBTS.
libertydogfight 3 months ago
This guy is a moron who doesnt have common sense, if he had the ability to educated Clinton on economics, he wouldnt have a 999 tax plan.
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spa17ez 3 months ago
cain is great with number but, i dont think he's the right choice for president, i got a feeling he'll fuck us over like obama
rocko0431 3 months ago
@rocko0431 He would do a lot better than Obama. I can promise you that, but he is not my pick yet. I'm still undecided as are many others are.
CHTWillCome723 3 months ago
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BLACK - YOUR PEOPLE ASKED FOR THE SAME RIGHTS AS WHITES AND TO BE FREE and here you are talking about TAKING AWAY GAY PEOPLES RIGHTS AND FREEDOM AND BEING PROUD TO BE WHO THEY ARE, JUST LIKE YOUR PROUD TO BE BLACK?
SHAME ON YOU!!
(I'm not offending any black person, this is just my personal message to Herman - the one who betraydes freedom and same rights for some other human beings, but I bet he's enjoying his other wise he wouldn't be running for president, but serving some white family).
NuLaifMusic 3 months ago
the reason why youd have to fire countless of employees is because you sell shitty pizza.
for some reason pizza hut still exists and that thing is atrocious. where is your pizza god now?
JewsInUranus 3 months ago
Questions: Did Cain send his calculations to Clinton? Did the numbers pan out? Why were Godfather's pizza profits so low in the first place?
7thDayAtheist 3 months ago
Towards the end Bill Clinton knew Herman Cain was handing him his ass and made him look small and foolish---it's in his body language and he had had nothing to say except "send me your numbers" was his only out. Obama does not want to debate Cain, esp. if Cain asks publicly they do not use the teleprompter. Or even with the teleprompter Obama does not want to debate Herman Cain. He will be trounced.
pumpsumiron 3 months ago
@pumpsumiron Every atheist is praying on his or hers bare knees to make Cane Obama's opponent. Sadly, it will be the Mormon, who at least knows evolution is NOT a religion and who will continue the Affordable Care Act.
TheSteelGeneraI 3 months ago
Ron Paul
- Bring home ALL the TROOPS Day 1
- End (and audit) the private bankers' “Federal” Reserve & the power for THEM to print OUR currency (Thomas Jefferson warned us)
- End the “Patriot” Act
- End the FEDERAL GOVERNMENTS' 40 year long UNSUCCESSFUL & COUNTERPRODUCTIVE war on our God given right to choose what we put in our bodies (The End of the War on Drugs)
- Cut 1 trillion dollars from the debt his 1st year & have the Budget Balanced in three
- End the IRS & Income Tax
Vs
Cain
-999 Tax.
psillyguava 3 months ago 37
@psillyguava excellent comment patriot....RON PAUL 2012
MrGiggity890 2 months ago
@psillyguava yeah and then also implement nonsensical ideas about not regulating business and hoping 'it just works out'
djstorm75 6 days ago
@psillyguava Ron Paul: 0% chance of being the republican nominee
shredr18 4 days ago
i don't get it, where did the intelligent number crunching adequately explanatory guy go? why do they act like they do in the debates?
boonexy 3 months ago
LOVE YOU CAIN MAY ...GOD.... BLESS YOU, YOUR FAMILY AND ALL AMERICANS WHO LOVE GOODNESS, HONESTY, FREEDOM, FAIITH( + )....
callesvidessalvador 3 months ago
There is nothing unconstitutional about Obama Care. It does not REQUIRE a person to have health insurance, what it does is add a TAX to people who do not have health insurance. The government has the right to tax. - The government is forced to pay billions each year to hospitals to pick up the tab of patients without health coverage. This tax will help pay that bill, so we can stop digging ourselves into a dept hole. (This was initially a Republican idea and why I support it, check out Mass!)
eviylove 3 months ago
Then how in the hell do we have the 37th best health care system in the world?! I have stopped listening to people who think the status quo is acceptable and bury their face in the sand without offering any of their own suggestions.
pnggolfer9 3 months ago 12
@pnggolfer9 That's what I'm sayin'!!
vatoencabronado 3 months ago
@pnggolfer9 Sadly, it's not just REALLY BAD health care, it's about everything:
youtube . com /watch?v=cZ7LzE3u7Bw
There is NO measure where the US does better than any other rich market democracy. Oh wait. There's more troops dying for the sake of billionaires than any other country, including the very poor. I guess that's something.
And at least our billionaires are not as poor as the Swedish or Japanese billionaires, man, THOSE are really, really poor.
TheSteelGeneraI 3 months ago
@pnggolfer9 exactly. On point.
CuriousMarcV 3 months ago
Can the Tea Party and Libertarians unite?
Sarah Palin, Rand Paul, Judge Napolitano, Ron Paul
/watch?v=zhzTzvmEf-A
vechorik 3 months ago
Wow. What are the chances...and now hes running for pres
nismofury 3 months ago
Clinton is one slick willy. He starts throwing out all kinds of numbers knowing that that will just confuse most of the audience and make him look like a genius.
rogueweapon 3 months ago
Why is the Billy boy associating with this pervert genital man Cain? Oh ya it don't count, forgot
GovernMentalFreedom 3 months ago
Don't you know that Cain is being setup by these fucking whores.
NjShockandAwe 3 months ago
@NjShockandAwe Sure thing, bud... there's eye witness testimony from multiple witnesses against your little theory, anything you can offer in it's favor?? Didn't think so...
vatoencabronado 3 months ago
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Herman wont even have to force Sarah Palins head down onto his junk. She will start bouncing like her daughter Bristol. I think they call it dancing with the stars. Cain is a pervert wanker for bankers. I would love to see the new republican Koch nation where Palin as VP, bounces on Cains meat and screams out 9/9/9.
whitenationalist52 3 months ago
Vote for Derpan Feign if you want the collapse of the dollar to destroy the world. Federal Reserve figurehead.
Puppets don't educate one another, they are educated by their donors.
Ron Paul 2012.
Otzmatron 3 months ago
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i figure it out herman cain,,,999 =666 cain=cocain ,,,now the joke of the day,,herman cain so black that when he was born all flashlights went on sale....
theboee 3 months ago
Hermain Cain educated Clinton on economics, Clinton educated Cain on womanizing.
pCriistopher 3 months ago 2
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DEADPATRIOT1 3 months ago
There's a stranger in my bed. Think I made her give me head. Spittle all over the room. Is poor Ricky gonna lose? Can't believe I got this far. Palins passed out in the yard. Pizzas on the barbeque. Is my campaign just a ruse?
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Voters on the right, readin' up online, I'm screwed. OH WELL.- It's a trumped up charge, but I'm pretty sure its trueee. DAMN!
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Back in 99, yeah I think i touched some butts. Didn't think that i'd be caught. Think we kissed but i "forgot"
underlinedbluetext 3 months ago
I lived in one of these "cheaper" countries, the Dominican Republic, where I could buy Penicillin for $5 per series. But, when i carried a man (married, w/10 kids) dying of a heart attack into a hospital, they told me I would have to go to the nation's capitol cuz they had no trauma unit. He died in my arms in a taxi on the way. You quote "cheap" health care in SA countries, but ignore the relative value of their money. AND their h-care sucks! You who "laud" all these SA countries are dumb.
johnowens22 3 months ago
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Ron Paul for President! 2012! He knew that the 2008 economic fall would happen and he knew how to stop it but no one would listen, among hundreds of lying politicians he stands out for his consistency in telling the truth, Ron Paul has never voted for an unbalanced budget, is for low taxes, wants to bring home our troops and fights constantly for your personal liberties. Ron Paul knows what he needs to do to make the U.S.A a better place all he needs is the chance to make it happen. R. Paul '12
imaclay777 3 months ago
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Herman Cain has been hired and used by the Coch brothers, to further thier minority crushing, rich white people protecting agenda, Mr Cain is acually officially on the payroll, pushing a cold "white racist" agenda on his own people, he gets paid to say the things they wish they could, like if you dont have a job its your own fault and racism doesnt exist anymore, these are the things white racist men say around the water cooler, now they found a black guy they could use to spew that crap!!!!
samantha11363 3 months ago
So Cain has already debated with a President. Does he get another chance?
MinWilliamJosephWWM 3 months ago
Herman Cain is very smart but I'd like to know his solutions . He seemed to of been able to dismantle clintons flawed health policy but does Herman have any thing to offer?
jjason23296 3 months ago
If you think health care is expensive now just wait until it's "free".
BIGMUDDYDOG 3 months ago
@BIGMUDDYDOG
can't afford i today
can you?
I'm sure Cain can though... you know why? because he and other senators, etc have government run healthcare
you don't see them disposing of their benefits even with IMMENSE pay checks..
matereymate 3 months ago
@matereymate ... Here's a news flash for you. Cain isn't a senator and he doesn't have government health care.
Where did you get your information?
BIGMUDDYDOG 3 months ago
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@onevike
Yes I can see how citing that the WEALTHIEST come here for medical care would certainly make your point concerning AFFORDABLE healthcare.
Gawd, utterly hilarious.
HeavyHemi 3 months ago
@vatoencabronado
Yes I can see how citing that the WEALTHIEST come here for medical care would certainly make your point concerning AFFORDABLE healthcare.
Gawd, utterly hilarious.
HeavyHemi 3 months ago
Was this shot before or after he Raped those 3 Women??
deeppurple28 3 months ago
Ah, so I have Herman Cain to thank for the highest costs and worst outcomes out of the top 30 industrialized countries in the world.
Did you know that Costa Ricans and Chileans have better health outcomes, and have a single payer system that costs a fraction of ours? We can't do better than the 3rd world? Really??
Thanks, Herman!! You're the best!!
vatoencabronado 3 months ago
@vatoencabronado A blatant lie that you have come to believe, but you are wrong. Where do the worlds wealthiest people go to find the healthcare they need? America, even the prime minister of Canada came to America for surgery, yet Canada has nationalized healthcare. You need to quit reading the lies about how bad America's healthcare system is and quit believing that 3rd world countries have better healthcare than America. Next time you need surgery, go to Cuba and get educated.
onevike 3 months ago 7
@onevike Uh, no, it's true, and unlike you, I have data, not anecdote... Rich people will always have private health care, and pay for it. The idea is to bring basic health services to the 40,000,000 Americans that don't have any. Google 'health care budget deficit calculator', and you'll see the 30 other countries with better outcomes and lower costs than the US. You can even substitute their costs for ours, and see our unfunded liabilities turn into surpluses!
vatoencabronado 3 months ago
@onevike Quick question, sir or ma'am! What happens if you have Health insurance but end up in an, "Out of Network Hospital"?
deeppurple28 3 months ago
@onevike Well, we know if he's one of the 45 million uninsured he won't be getting any care in the U.S., unless he's willing to go bankrupt and never pay the bill. The U.S. system is failing. These other nations have much better outcomes and the statistics have been telling us that for years.
Atombombmother 3 months ago
@onevike Only the wealthiest come here for the medical care because it's so expensive.
tommy0135 3 months ago
@onevike It's not a lie at all. I also like how you mention Cuba when Cuba's not in the conversation. Strawman fail. Maybe you should do some research before oyu publish comments.
upabittoolate 3 months ago
@onevike Yes, america has the best health care(or the best doctors), i do agree. The problem, only the RICH HAS ACCESS TO THOSE!
qing333 3 months ago 7
@qing333 Bull, I make less than $35,000 a year and I have access to great healthcare. My brother had a heart attack last year and he is unemployed, Yet he was rushed to the hospital where he was saved, and they ended up performing a bypass operation on him when he was strong enough to handle it. So don't tell me that normal Americans who have limited income do not have access to the best healthcare in the world. When you keep swallowing the lies from the left, you remain ignorant to the truth.
onevike 3 months ago
@onevike BULL dude... or you might be one of the luckest ones, look at the video documentry "SICKO"
it has great arguments... or when your bro got saved that must of been prehaps around 10 years ago... things have changed.
qing333 3 months ago
@onevike I"m very glad that your brother isn't one of the 45,000 Americans who die on an annual basis due to the lack of health insurance
wangsta25 3 months ago
@onevike Not everyone is as lucky as you. As many as 122 people a day die from lack of medical insurance. Our system works well for you and those with money because the system is designed to push the sick and poor out of the line to shorten the it so you and Warren Buffet can get the best medical treatment as quickly as possible. The current system comes with serious repercussions to lower class America that you don't feel. Or maybe you don't care. Btw im sure that 2nd story of urs is a lie.
Ibiku456 3 months ago
@onevike And how fucking much is he shoveling them now after all the costs. Our hospitals are obligated to treat us, in time of emergency. But after everything, we need to pay their cost, go in debt and fight to have a decent life. Under universal healthcare, a person doesnt have to worry. Everyone gets good healthcare and the only reason people have to end up waiting for the care is because EVERYONE gets the care they need. Not just rich fucks who can afford the greatest money can buy.
websiteusername 3 months ago
@onevike all decisions are clinical decisions not financial in nationalised healthcare that's why rich people got to America
Mar2623 3 months ago
@onevike
1: Great...too bad everyone doesn't have a job that provides good health care.And those who don't certainly can't afford it out of their own pocket.
2: So if someone doesn't have good insurance good luck paying that 200,000 dollar hospital bill back for the next 20 years,.
gtw1983 3 months ago
@onevike How much debt does your brother have now? Or did he just declare bankruptcy so that the rest of the American people end up paying his bill with increasing costs? The fact of the matter, is that healthcare costs have risen because of our flawed insurance system. You may be fortunate enough to have excellent insurance at your pay grade, but that is not the reality that many Americans live with.
zlbohner 3 months ago
@onevike
Emergency care is available to everyone by law! It wasn't always like that.
Now, how is it that you have access to great healthcare? I wan't in on that.
juarezrt 3 months ago
@juarezrt I pay for my own insurance with Blue Cross and Blue Shield, but currently Obama is trying to screw it up with his stupid regulations. Long before the law stated a hospital could not refuse anyone, the Churches took care of people. What you liberal Christian hating leftists don't want to understand is that until Christianity began spreading their were no hospitals. Men would die on the side of the street with no help. Christian began helping even those who hated them.
onevike 3 months ago
@onevike
That's great that you're able to pay for your insurance all by yourself. Does your job help?
I can't afford that, and my job does not help. Even if I could, the only health issue I have is my bad back, which will most likely not be covered since its a pre-existing condition. so what's the point of paying for it?
What church do you recommend I visit so they can take care of my health care bills? I didn't know it was that easy.
BTW, I am NOT a "liberal Christian hating leftist".
juarezrt 3 months ago
@qing333 That is not true at all, the majority of the US population have access to healtcare.
TheProgressistViewer 3 months ago
@TheProgressistViewer Wow... my posts have been deleted... again, watch the movie doctimatory sicko.
qing333 3 months ago
@qing333 I watched sicko, now go look at actual facts and statistics please, something Michael Moore clearly has not done enough
TheProgressistViewer 3 months ago
@onevike Those who have money will go anywhere to get the best service. American healthcare may be the best at the upper echelons of care, but it also costs the most.
Informashun 3 months ago
@onevike "Where do the worlds wealthiest people go to find the healthcare they need?" -> I have 2 problems with that question. One, I have difficulty with that logic: the best healthcare if you could pay it, otherwise... It's like saying "we get the best education, Harvard", sure, but forget about all these kids in North Charleston military magnet. What are the odd of finding one over the other?
Secondly, what about the Klinik Hirslanden in Zurich? Point is, rich get health care where they want
therrydicule 3 months ago
@vatoencabronado Honestly learn your stuff before you post, let me guess, you are part of the Occupy Wallstreet failures?
TheTmost 3 months ago
@TheTmost Learn my stuff? What stuff? Let me guess you're a tea bagger?
vatoencabronado 3 months ago
@vatoencabronado I am originally from So. America and I have to tell you, nationalized health care DOES NOT WORK. My mother wasn't feeling well for about 6 months before she actually got to see an especialist and it took them 3 months to diagnose her with stomach cancer. The machinery was always broken and the lines are always long. You make an appt for 10am, you have to get there at 5am to be seen at 2pm. it's a disgrace! My mother passed away 4 mos after the diagnosis.
sdfarley82 3 months ago
@sdfarley82 I''m sorry for your loss, but must ask which country are you from?
vatoencabronado 3 months ago
@vatoencabronado Costa Ricans don't shoot each other. They also eat nothing but beans, rice, plantains and lean meat. More of their people do physical labor as a part of their jobs. Soccer, which is a great aerobic activity, is also the most popular sport. In America, we eat poorly, smoke, drink, and sit at desks for several hours at a time.
shepf2 3 months ago
@shepf2 Costa Ricans live longer than Americans (regardless that, contrary to your assertion, they have a much higher homicide rate) and their health care system costs much less. If our system was better, it would make up for the fact that we don't eat as healthy. If the 'market' worked the way Cain pretends it does, individual medical procedures and drugs would cost much much less here because there are so many procedures and so many people on drugs, the per unit cost should be lower. It's not.
vatoencabronado 3 months ago
@vatoencabronado Right. They live longer because they lead healthier lives. Which leads to lower healthcare costs. Did I miss something?
Also, stop pretending that the US healthcare system is a free market system. It hasn't been that way since medicare was signed into law.
shepf2 3 months ago
@shepf2 It's not just because they lead healthier lives, the type of system they have it also different than in the US. The US is not as homogenous as smaller countries, but because our system is so expensive, regardless of the type of life I live, our costs per person are much higher.
I'm not pretending anything about our system, people like Herman Cain are, that's my point...
vatoencabronado 3 months ago
@vatoencabronado Herman Cain's point is that Clinton's healthcare law would have increased the cost of providing coverage for his employees. What was yours, and how does it invalidate his?
shepf2 3 months ago
@shepf2 It might very well have increased his costs, but it's because of the cost of health care, not from having to cover everyone. This is a very important distinction. If healthcare cost the same as it does in 30 other industrialized countries that have better health outcomes than the US, our unfunded liabilities would turn into surpluses.
Republicans just think about universal health care as covering everyone, and leaving the costs alone to balloon as projected. That is unsustainable.
vatoencabronado 3 months ago
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@vatoencabronado Herman Cain didn't know that China ALREADY HAS NUKES, said he was going to prevent them from getting nukes. I kid you not. More embarrassing than the sexual accusations against him.
/watch?v=U5HiIgbHAzQ
vechorik 3 months ago
@vechorik Exactly, he's not even aware of the world around him, I don't want him negotiating with someone that he doesn't understand on even the most basic of levels.
vatoencabronado 3 months ago
@vechorik Someone keeps flagging your comment as spam, guess they don't want the word getting out! I keep 'un-spamming' it ;)
vatoencabronado 3 months ago
@vatoencabronado Have you been to a state of the art Costa Rican or Chilean hospital? It's nasty.
zoomerlawns 3 months ago
@zoomerlawns I've travelled throughout latin america, and as bad as they might be, they still have better health outcomes than the US. The same hold true for 30 other countries with lower costs and better outcomes.
vatoencabronado 3 months ago
@vatoencabronado Better health outcomes? What kind of procedures are they carrying out? Or are the hospitals more like glorified clinics? I'll admit, If you have a skinned knee, you may get treated faster in Costa Rica, but if you have a brain tumor I don't think ice packs and an aspirin is considered a better health outcome.
zoomerlawns 3 months ago
@zoomerlawns Look up health outcomes in wikipedia, that's the measure by which 30 other countries with much lower health care costs, including Costa Rica and Chile. Most of the countries are European, but the fact that Chile and Costa Rica are on the list ought to tell us something about our current system.
vatoencabronado 3 months ago
@vatoencabronado Exactly how brainwashed are you?
orangeblood307 3 months ago
@orangeblood307 Brainwashed? I've got verifiable data, what have you got? Anecdote and not much else...
I rest my case. Google Health Care Budget Deficit Calculator, and you'll find 30 other countries with better health outcomes, and what our projected deficit or surplus would look like utilizing any one of those 30 countries costs.
Of course, there is always the chance that you're not interested in data and fact...
vatoencabronado 3 months ago
@vatoencabronado If you really think Costa Rica has a better quality of healthcare than you're highly misinformed.
Who cares if 30 other countries have lower healthcare costs? Have you considered the cost of living in those countries?? The people are getting taxed at every angle in those countries to pay for HC. Why do you think almost every country in Europe have the highest costs of living in the world?
orangeblood307 3 months ago
@orangeblood307 They have better health outcomes. If you want to understand what that means, google is your friend.
Who cares about healthcare costs?? Conservatives!! The GOP... have you seen the projections?? We don't need to tax everyone at the same rates as Europe in order to control health care costs. You're changing the subject because you have no argument. It's ok, Herman Cain can't get beyond jingoism, either!
vatoencabronado 3 months ago
@vatoencabronado I'm a Ron Paul supporter so I really don't give 1 shit about Herman Cain. But, my point is: we don't need the federal government involved in every aspect of our lives like they are overseas.... And Obamacare is just pure fascism, the government forcing people and employers to buy HC from health insurance companies is morally wrong and will only lead to massive job loss. Once we get rid of Obamacare then we can talk about serious reforms.
orangeblood307 3 months ago
@orangeblood307 You're right we dont' need the federal government involved in every aspect of our lives, and many Europeans countries that you refer to are indeed much freer than we are, in practice. As a Ron Paul supporter, why defend or give assistance to someone that has absolutely no substance?
Also, you dont' know the definition of fascism. Google is your friend... If anything Obamacare is a weak extension of medicare, it's not fascism.
vatoencabronado 3 months ago
@vatoencabronado Call it what you want to call it but Obamacare MANDATES people to purchase something, rather they want it or not. Something the government should NEVER have the power to do. What will they mandate us to do next?? We're not fucking slaves.
Employers are already having massive lay-offs just to account for when Obamacare is in affect, including my own dad. People think job loss is bad now, just wait til this takes affect.
orangeblood307 3 months ago
@orangeblood307 Your dad, huh? Wow, hard to counter that anecdotal evidence... Listen, you dont know much about economics, but you do care about your country, which is commendable. We're going to part ways at this point for the same reason that most internet conversations should end...
vatoencabronado 3 months ago
@orangeblood307 There are several precedents to the Supreme Courts affirming the federal government the power to do just this. Why do you think that every case against this portion of the amendment that has received a judgement has been thrown out?
pnggolfer9 3 months ago
@pnggolfer9 Several courts have ruled it unconstitutional. But, I honestly don't care what the courts have to say, they don't rule me. It's morally wrong for the federal government to MANDATE it's citizens to buy anything, especially HC from health insurance companies. Just ask any employer what he's going to have to do to make up for the costs of this bill. I just hope this is ended once it gets to the Supreme Court.
orangeblood307 3 months ago
@orangeblood307 So court decisions don't "rule" over you? Really?! Ok, some state courts have ruled it unconstitutional, lets see when it does make it to the supreme court. Also, why do you think employers need to provide insurance at all? They are one of the biggest causes for increases health care costs to begin with!
pnggolfer9 3 months ago
@pnggolfer9 2 state courts have ruled it unconstitutional and 2 state courts have ruled it constitutional. And no, they don't rule me. You act as if we're just property of the federal government.
I like your videos on your channel. What part of the Dominican were you at?? I just got back from Higuey, Punta Cana last week. It's beautiful down there.
orangeblood307 3 months ago
@orangeblood307 Well, I disagree with you that the courts don't rule you. They interpret laws (most of the time) through the eyes of the constitution. These rulings do in effect have significant outcomes which affect every American. You can interpret that as being ruled or not.
I have been to DR three times in the last year and am going this December. I love it there. I have many close friends that live there who I visit whenever I can.
pnggolfer9 3 months ago
@pnggolfer9
well they dont necessarily rule over you, thats the executive branch's duty. but their decisions do have an impact on the executive.
JewsInUranus 3 months ago
@orangeblood307 You have obviously never been to those countries. Also, the cost is relative to GDP. So go read a freaking book and travel outside your border.
pnggolfer9 3 months ago
@pnggolfer9 Lol, what would you know about me, dipshit? I'm only 22 and have been to 5 countries outside of the US and I was scared shitless of getting sick there, especially a couple weeks ago when I was in the Domincan Republic. I've honestly NEVER been so grateful to live in the US ever since I got back from there. Go play some golf instead of judging people you have no clue about.
orangeblood307 3 months ago
@orangeblood307 I lived overseas in South America at your age, and was actually sad upon my return here. I think it has more to do with the individual rather than any danger a given 3rd world country represents. Of course, I did grow up on the border with Mexico, across from Juarez, so maybe it wasn't that big of a shock.
vatoencabronado 3 months ago
@vatoencabronado You are confused
flameboy63 3 months ago
@flameboy63 Umm, well, I'm the only one with data from the CBO, and UN health organizations, etc... if you're able to show me how I'm misinformed, please do, I'd love to see it.
vatoencabronado 3 months ago
@vatoencabronado Move to Chile!
PALINSMITH 3 months ago
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vatoencabronado 3 months ago
@PALINSMITH You move to Chile and enjoy better health outcomes and lower costs! ;)
vatoencabronado 3 months ago
Nigger
wejewsdid911HAHAHA89 3 months ago
I just watched it again and he is full of shit! At the beginning he says 9/10 people are insured through there employers and there he says 2/3 people in his own company are not insured. He needs to practice what he preeches!! I want Bill Back!
1jailbreak1 3 months ago