Jehovah's witnesses(The Amytiville cemetery of the Watchtower)

[MarthaPerezDiva]

Dios es todo amor por eso mando a su hijo Jesus y nunca mando a un alcoholico como Russell ningun recado de nada y mucho menso a decirle a la gente que no tuviera transfusiones de sangre EL QUE TENGA OIDOS QUE ENTIENDA!! y el que no quiere ver pues muerase ciego!! He dicho

[hearthbreaker1987]

dios es amor, y no mando a sus siervos a cumplir obligatoriamente celibato, no mande a dar diezmo obligatoriamente, no mando a adorar a maria, yo creo q de las tranfusiones es algo personal. de cada persona . tambien no mando dios a adorar imagenes . gracias

[M1Neo]

tiene un aire a lavasori despues de haber tomado demasiado alcohol por su odio antitestigos

[dasgregorian]

Do your own research. Google search "bloodless hospitals" and you'll find noblood[dot]org. There are well over 100 hospitals across the US that are entirely transfusion free because it's safer, less expensive, and GREATLY reduces recovery time.

And even when transfusions actually are necissary, JWs aren't opposed to transfusions, just whole blood.  There are many products that are just as effective, if not more so, and much safer than whole blood transfusions.

[happypranksgiving]

So you can take parts of blood but not whole blood huh? So it's wrong to have a ham sandwich, but okay to have ham, bread, cheese, lettuce, and mayo seperately? And you think that makes sense?

Question: if "bloodless transfusions" are so much safer and better, how come so many Witnesses die by refusing blood transfusions?

[dasgregorian]

Religiously: For the same reason meat and cheese are each acceptable to jews, but not together. God said no, so, no.

Functionally, because blood fractions are much less likely to be rejected/carry viruses/cause infections/slow recovery than whole blood.

MUCH fewer witnesses die "from not having blood" than the deaths per year DUE TO transfusions.

Like I said, go to noblood(dot)org, find your closest bloodless hospital, ask them yourselves. Blood's not worth it, medically.

[happypranksgiving]

First of all your analogy is flawed. A Jew starving in the desert can eat pork if it will keep him from dying, because the Law was made for man, man was not made for the Law. If the Law causes death, it is no longer useful at that moment. So, according to a Jew, a blood transfusion to save a life would be acceptable.

As for your claim that there are more people who from transfusions than from not getting them, you're missing an important point. Suppose 1 in 200 people are JW.

[happypranksgiving]

(cont) In that case, there would be 200x more people getting transfusions than refusing them. With that being said, we would expect the deaths to be 200x higher, because there are more people doing it. What you'd have to do is look at it on a percentage basis. Unfortunately I couldn't find any statistics for "deaths from blood transfusions." If you have them, let me know and we'll compare with this new factor in mind.

[happypranksgiving]

(cont) finally, diseases? So it's better to refuse something and die, than to take it and have a tiny chance that you might get a disease? You take risks of that sort every time you go into a hospital.

[dasgregorian]

Also, it's not an OT thing. Acts 15:20 says to abstain from blood (among other things).  So we do.

If a doctor said he'd save your life if you knowingly disobeyed God, would you? We have the faith to say NO. People have died for their faith throughout history. We shouldn't TRY to, but I value my relationship with God more than this temporary, sinful life.

If you don't have the faith, I'm sorry.

[FoulOwl]

Well thats complete bullshit.

[dasgregorian]

What's bullshit, foul?

[TheScrewedGeneration]

Jehovah is never wrong brother. Just wait in your tomb untill further clarification from the faithful and discrete slave. If the men in the governing body where wrong on doctrine, Jehovah will straighten them out in time. New light will shine forth, be patient.

[WatchtowerAddict]

well if you didnt get 10 hours a month recruiting for the watchtower your a dead man anyway ! might as well have a blood transfusion...