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  • Does anyone know if Anna holtz really exists?

  • I think that sometimes confidence is mistaken for arrogance, due to jealousy.

  • what name has this movie

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  • U better watch Immortal Beloved rather than this..

  • Me recuerda a natalie portman xD

  • i like the beast

  • para mi gusto,una de las mejores interpretaciones de ED HARRIS Y DIANA KRUGER;en el papel de Beethoven y de ANNA HOLTZ; sobre todo,porque refleja de una manera interesante la forma de componer de beethoven,MAGNÍFICA¡¡¡¡

  • whats the name of the violin piece in :25?

  • @cabitothekid Beethoven symphony 9 (scherzo)

  • @TaX43 yeah but i wanted to know the movement but now i know is the second...but thanks anyway..

  • idk what type of pot people whatching this video are smokeing cuse that woman actually did CORRECT him so stfu bethoveen wrote things wrong on pourpose to see if she actually knew what he ment and in time he developed fealings for her ;D

  • Why are musicians so bloody arrogant? It's just a movie people, how can you be insulted by that.

    I never understand why people with a talent for music, are always so much more arrogant about it than people with other great talents. It's just a talent just like any other talent, not something divine...

  • @xMithras im sorry but music it is divine...and the ones who posses music talent is a divine gift...beethoven said it himself...we musicians r closer to god than any man can be....

  • @xMithras Hi :) I just wanted to comment that not all musicians are arrogant, some of us are really good and very humble and good people to...Plus, great musicians is not just a talent, all human beings are talented, however it takes a minute to learn and a life to master, professional music world is demandant, strict and consumes time and lots of effort, as any other professional world. And for me, music is divine becouse is my passion as you may have something divine... :)

  • @xMithras no, musical talent is the best talent anyone can have since music is the purest of all arts. It's the essence of life. I doubt there is something more divine than music.

  • @0live0wire0 Way to come off as an asshat

  • @CUjoBitME How was he an asshat? He's correct.  Music is the purest of all the arts. Well said!

  • The following year, they were together again in National Treasure: Book of Secrets.

  • @Aleancelo LOL, So they were! I only just noticed that :)

  • Ed Harris has a REAL love for the arts.

    And that is Very refreshing in Cinema.

  • I liked this movie, Ed Harris does a wonderful job. I am a Beethoven lover and I am not offended at all by this movie.

  • Why does it have to be 100% match the history!? This is just a movie, not a discovery documentary. This is an interesting approach and this is always the case with historical fictions. The movie was good, i would say 7/10.

  • @cchangg

    It does not have to match the history exactly, but one cannot so radically change it either. It gives people the wrong impression.

  • I saw the movie last night at 5am and the very scene where Beethoven mooned at Anna Holtz made me sick. They could have presented a much more better Beethoven and add more to the nature of Karl or his fight with his mother over his custody. Overall the movie was okay

  • @FeynmanQuantum and what, portray a gentleman and kind elderly beethoven?he had the reputation of such a character and it really doesn't come as a surprise considering all he's been through and his condition. Both Oldman and Harris did a wonderful job but immortal beloved was better overall and portrayed the same vulgar Beethoven.

  • Well, i'm to a classical musician, but i enjoyed the movie. Shore, there are some not correct moments (like Beethoven mentioning the Appasionata sonata, when actually it was named like that 20 years after his death), but what i really like about the movie, is that it focuses on the music, not just the story telling or biography. The explanations at the end about what he wants to convey with his music are absorbing and overall Ed Harris performes very well.

  • Why are you all getting upset it clearly states this movie is fiction.

  • disappointed by diane because I think she is a grreat actress

  • It's a work of fiction. Troll fucks. No wonder why so many people hates 'Inglourious Basterds', since it is ALSO a work of fiction. And both of them are kick-asses movies.

  • typical un-misogynistic Hollywood rubbish

  • This is fiction, idiots.

  • Calm down...it's just a movie !

  • He knew, understood, and could feel music. Even after going completely deaf he composed his Ninth Symphony. This is true dedication to art, none have been so dedicated since this man.

  • If you guys saw the movie... you will realise that the Beethoven at that part didnt make the mistake... its not a mistake... more like a test to see if that old man can truely understand his music...

  • I never pictured Ed as Beethoven, but he did great! And yes, I find the Beethoven mistake sort of insulting, but I think He is okay with up there, we know He didn't make any mistake, but it is a good movie, even if it is fiction. No one can get Beethoven perfect, he was a man of brilliance, there will be mistakes

  • @wishingonthemoon1 hehe, maybe, but believe me, if you knew Beethoven, you'd know he would be insulted. he would call us all asses and shit and burst into flames. or at least, that's what you can tell reading the stories of his life (his real life, not this FICTION)

  • "he can;t hear you...he is deaf." then after that, the woman and Beethoven talk like beethoven is not deaf at all! and why,for God's sake, they made this woman who always correct beethoven? tsk.such a bad movie!

  • this is a stupid movie....they made fun of Beethoven...how I wish there is a law...a law about films base on an actual man especially those who are well respected...I feel so pity for Beethoven...they always make fun of him.

  • I must depise the world which does not know that music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy

    -Ludwig Van Beethoven

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  • would be like a spy

  • The Pharisees were offended too...

  • Utterly beautiful^^ Diane Kruger as Anna Holtz is superbly beautiful... Ed Harris as Ludwig van is incredible!! Loved the story, haha There's Matthew Goode, Ed Harris and Diane Kruger, what more could you ask for haha BRILlIANT.. Just finished watching it^^

  • @akosizerokiryuu14 thank you

  • does anyone know a movie of Beethoven other then this one?

  • @Pressilia94 Immortal Beloved!

  • 0:20 from what is symphony is it from?

  • @clercato it's ok. I found it

  • even though this movie pretty much is just imaginative wish fulfillment for the director, it's still a whole lot better than immortal beloved, which kinda sucked in my opinion. although amadeus is the best composer movie.

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  • brilliant!!!!!!!!tony amore stoke

  • what in incredibly different role for ed harris...i mean, wow! never would have guessed him for this part

  • Copying Beethoven avoids the obvious path of developing the relationship between Beethoven and Anna into something romantic....if you like this kind of movie you can watch it at

    EasyMediaClick (dot) com

  • that is correct, but is it half decent for what it is.

  • I think, the film is quite well, unfortunately a few scenes are learnt by 'Amadeus'.

  • is the symphony 9, movement 5: Presto- O freunde, nicht diese Töne!

  • @TheCParra it's the fourth movement.

  • what symphony is in 1:35?

  • interesting..

  • Immortal Beloved is a lot better and Gary Oldman was the best Beethoven

  • immortal beloved was best

  • wow, good movie seen it already at "bigmovies4free", anybody else seen it? it's got a gr8 cast of actors

  • Hollywood,you suck.

    Love Beethoven,love the cinematography,the wardrobe...all that stuff *looks* great.

    As always though Hollywood delivers some shallow,historically perverted piece of crap...all show and fluff,dramatic lofty speak with no substance or basis in truth.

    I wish Hollywood would burn to the ground.

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  • I was offended as a musician an a big Beethoven's fan , when I saw , in this movie , the scene when she "corrected" him . If you are making some movie based on an actual man , or an event , you have some responsibility because not all people know much about that man/event .

  • yeah,fuck hollywood

  • @Darkoni2000

    Sorry... your reaction is a little bit stupid : Anna is hearing a conversation between Beethoven and Schlimmer... and 'translates' !!! PLEASE...Look at ALL the details of a film… thank you!

    U.

  • @Ulysse0201

    I have looked at "all the details" and my reaction isn't stupid at all . I watched this movie and many more which have the same problem ....

  • @Darkoni2000

    I am 'a fan' of Ludwig van, Darkoni [detail... his grandfather was living in Mechelen (Malines in French- Belgium], I have a real veneration for the most famous composer of all times, I think that I know 'a little bit' [Jean et Brigitte Massin, Romain Rolland, etc.] the life of this genious [Génie in French !]... BUT... 'Copying Beethoven' is a movie, isn't !? Then... cool, no!? With the pleasure [please, excuse the 'quality' of 'my English'] to read You !

    Ulysse0201

  • @Darkoni2000

    "Mais quelle humiliation lorsque quelqu'un près de moi entendait une flûte au loin et que je n'entendais rien, (...) ; de tels événements m'ont poussé jusqu'au bord du désespoir, il s'en fallut de peu que je ne misse fin à mes jours. C'est l'art et seulement lui, qui m'a retenu, (…)"

    Ludwig van Beethoven, Heiligenstadt, le 6 octobre 1802.

    That’s NOT a movie, Darkoni ! Then… the scenario of S.. Rivele and Ch. Wilkinson… a heavy mistake !?

  • @Darkoni2000 why feeling offended? it´s a movie, with funny and romantic touches. i particullary loved that part, and i loved the fact that someone, specially a woman, could have corrected such a great genious, even when this is not true. Actually many genious had pupils that inspired them. Like Rodin with Camille Claudel.

  • Historically, this movie is beyond ridiculous, but in terms of sheer entertainment, it's not bad. Ed Harris did a great job. I'd argue that it was better than Oldman's take.

  • Yeah it's ridiculous, but it's purpose isn't inform, it's entertain, and i think it's very good....

  • This film is awesome but I don't think it shows us the truth about Beethoven ... A documentary film is much better

  • Well, actually it's purpose isn't inform...

  • 1:40 Beethoven's Naked!!!!!!!

  • As a girl, I've got to say that I"m really sick of this trend of insisting that somehow women are the real brains behind everything. This movie acts like the credit really goes to Beethoven's copyist.

    Beethoven was a musical genius and the credit for his work should stay squarely with him.

  • Beethoven did the greatest music ever, but this film suckes

  • A bit, yeah :)

  • sorry but this is a very bad movie i want to watch a movie about about his life like beethoven bbc documentry film

  • You can watch Immortal Beloved. It's an awesome film and keeps very close to reality.

  • Adoro esta película...la veo tan magistral, impecable, claro x la excelente actuación de Ed Harris, tan comprometido en su papel estelar y su sólida presencia. Y no dejo atrás a la musa que aparece en su camino para dar un poco de color a sus últimos años. Ojo que no me identifico con la obra que muestra a un Beethoven soberbio...pero de que era grande...era GRANDIOSO Y GENIAL!!!

  • This movie looks good. But its message is wrong. Essentially, they are exploiting Beethoven and not giving him credit for his masterpieces which he composed.

  • sorry but this is GARBAGE!!!!! a totally blasphemy ..

  • @XRichterX why

  • SO...A woman (how contemporary) made Beethoven acceptable, if not publicly brilliant???

    And why Ed Harris..what a sucky ass production this is...

  • "And why Ed Harris.."

    could have used nick nolte without that wig .lol

  • is this a true story???

    is beethoven not a complete deaf???

    and is it true that someone copied and change his composition??

    and also teach him how to conduct the 9th symphony??

  • @cyclone1508 no,ofcourse bot they are just dumb stupid! beethoven composed this when he is TOTALLY DEAF! no one did that aside form him!(i mean the 9th symphony!)

  • i want this movie!!!

  • BLASPHEMY!

  • @RantingTrent

    Sorry... you have nothing unterstood of this 'opus' !

  • I adore this trailer...... I can't believe I haven't seen the movie yet, I must!

  • immortal beloved was wayyy better

  • People, Beethoven didn't conduct his 9nth symphony when it premiered, he just sat at the side. Apparently there were two legends, one was when his symphony finished he couldn't hear any applause so he cried. Another was that the audience threw their hats in the air to show their appreciation for the music. But neither involved him composing.

  • Technically, Nicholas Wager, the Conductor for the main orchestra in Vienna, conducted the Ninth Symphony. Beethoven was there, standing at the side, with a copy of the music, directing it himself, but Wagner told the musicians to ignore the deaf composer.

    Source: Mozart in Vienna; Ch.11 - Beethoven

  • oh! you was there?? AWESOME!

  • No, I just know more about music than you.

  • not with the statement: "..But neither involved him composing." you mean CONDUCTING....

  • Took yer 3 months?

  • what is the name of the song that starts at 0:13?

  • the 9° simphonie sorry i'm italian la nona sinfonia

  • beethoven symphony 9 movement 1

  • Isn't it ironic that through inequality comes this travesty of a film. Instead of claiming actual equality in a truthful manor, moves resort to this trash. Instead of telling a truthful account of a woman's triumph over adversity, we are left with the belittlement of a genius. How sad it is. I am outraged, and utterly disgusted.

  • Is that song MOONLIGHT in this movie?

  • no one plays it, but he (beethoven) asks anna what is her favorite piano sonata of his, then told her that he figured it out, he exclaimed "the moonlight!" and then he mooned her lol

  • this might be a dumb question

    but is this a true story??

  • I'm not sure, but i think its the true story of Beethoven but Anna Holtz is fictional.

  • This movie inspire me "o

  • great.

    i loved it

  • music at 1:36? is in the OST CD? number? Thanx

  • Ode to joy, ninth Symphony

  • beethoven era sordomudo que no??

    y aqui habla y escucha

    pffff

  • No era sordomudo, solo sordo

  • era sordo solamente...

    igualmente, esta pelicula es inexacta historicamente.

  • mas respeto con DIOS

  • beethoven era sordo, mas no mudo. Hay personas que tienen la facilidad de leer los labios, pareciera que en la pelicula escuchara pero en realidad lee los labios. Hay una pelicula que se llama: Dear Frankie, el niño de la pelicula es sordomudo, y a pesar de eso, lee los labios de las personas. Entonces es totalmente posible, de ser sordo pero leer los labios. Beethoven solo padecia de sordera, que le comenzo en su adolescencia, y que fue empeorando con el tiempo..

  • era sordo solamente, pero en esta peli lo hacen muy poco sordo, ya que su sordera era total...

  • another manipulation of the history, turing true biography into fiction. why?????????????????

  • the music at 0:20

  • sinfonía nº9 4to. movimiento.

  • 2nd movement at 00:20.

  • 7th symphony

  • 9th Symphony throughout the whole trailer, not 7th.

  • hey can anyone tell me the name of the Beethoven music playing right at the beginning?

  • I believe it is his 9th Symphony

  • 9th Symphony, 1st movement

    Later, same symphony, 2nd movement.

  • I hate historically inaccurate movies but I can see myself watching this. Love Beethoven.

  • ♥tom hulce in Amadeus is better...

  • Gary Old as Beethoven IS THE BEST, Harris did excellent in this movie as well

  • So wonderful video!!!...thank you !!!!: Cheers, ~Sergio.

  • looks like the biggest chick movie ever. pshh

    That damn director changed Beethoven...

  • ¡¡Claro, para un machista marico como tú!!!!

    eso es lo que tu piensas pendejo.

  • Gary Oldman is the best Beethoven I ever seen. Beethoven was EXTREMELY egoistic. He would have NEVER tolerated what she said in the trailer. 'I corrected it'

  • i thought he didnt finish his 9th symphony..........

  • He definetly finished the 9th Symphony. There were rumors he was working on his 10th and that wasn't finished.

  • Oh yeah, I cried at the scene in the opera. When the chorus started singing it was heavenly I just wished the movie reached a wider audience.

  • It is a very good movie. I know that some of the things are not historically accurate but I think the important thing is that the genius and out of the world talent of Beethoven was communicated to the viewers. The actors were superb especially Ed Harris. He made a great Beethoven characterwise although we will never know how he really was in true life, this movie did its best to portray this amazing person.

  • where i can get this movie?

  • Very, very good movie. I highly recommend it! :)

  • beethoven never learned to read lips. He used to carry conversation notebooks. so it appears the movie isn't that accurate already. It's a fiction drama inspired on the character of beethoven, but it is not beethoven's story in any way. Anna Holtz is a made up character. NO ONE ever altered the work of beethoven.

    It is a very ggod movie, but it is not even close to the events of his life. And I agree, Gary Oldman is the best Beethoven.

  • I am sorry. I was being ironic.

  • the best beethoven is gary oldman

  • the movie was very good i loved it!!! when it came to the part where he was doing his 9th...WHOA!!! the power of it...i have an awesome sound system and it felt like i was there it was great part of the movie...very moving

  • how did beethoven understand what the people were saying if he was deaf?

  • He used ear horns before he became totally deaf, and he had people write in conversation books that he kept around.

  • And why not Harris? I think Agnieszka must like him (me too!) and to work with him - they made together at least 3 films.

  • Ed Harris is great!!!!

  • Of all people, why Ed Harris?

  • Ooh! I need to take this wonderful opportunity to see the WoNdErFuL Ed Harris withought a SHIRT!

  • wonderful movie... nice to hear and nice to see. making a feel good :) ambicious and not so heavy.

  • Beethoven is the greatest achievement of mankind!

  • Him or Bach or Mozart, it's close. Mozart came closest to perfection, IMHO - Beethoven is sometimes clumsy, Bach is sometimes mechanical.

  • I haven´t seen the movie but... which Beethoven acting do you prefer Harris or Oldman's?

  • I haven't seen it either, but I didn't care for Immortal Beloved. Amadeus was a great movie, but Beethoven is hard to pull off - Mozart is cool, but Beethoven is too intense for modern tastes. And I can't imagine doing a movie about Bach - 20 kids?

  • bach used math o write down his symphonys am I right?

  • Bach didn't write symphonies, they hadn't been invented yet. He wrote counterpoint, which is very mathematical when you analyse it but like all composers he put it together in his head as he was writing. He was known to improvise complex fugues - the set called The Musical Offering was mostly improvised for King Frederick the Great and written down afterwards.

  • thanks.

    My teacher said that Beethoven was more chaotic in composing.

  • Beethoven was also a great improviser, so he could pour it out on demand. But he was also a perfectionist, who kept making corrections to his scores - that's why they look chaotic. But he kept meticulous notes, and you can see his ideas evolving in his notebooks. Also his work more complex, less formulaic and on a larger scale than anything that had gone before, so he was breaking new ground, groping his way forward. My 2c worth.

  • No , because symphonies didn't existed when Bach was alive .

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