Savage 2 - Let's get Berserkin'! Savages vs Spires

[DevilFish0fHell]

GJ getting killed repeatingy withouth doing anything

[JRPereira]

@DevilFish0fHell Common misconception. At the time, the gold mechanics (especially for repairing) were such that the damage you could do and repair costs far outweighed the death penalty. The enemy team's economy tanked. It actually would've been better for the enemy team to lose the spire and save gold.

[Hodovnik]

oh i hate rune users... such an imbalance

[JRPereira]

Eden. It's one of the original maps that was included when the game was released - and it's a port of a Savage 1 map.

[RequestChipmunk]

what map is this?

[CamiloAbelMaster]

Sorry if this is incorrect, but this reminds me a little of ''Brutal Legend'', i mean Iron Heade vs. Tainted Coil...kinda

[JRPereira]

@CamiloAbelMaster Haven't played the game, but I hear that at one point in the game, they attempted a mixed RTS/action RPG system. Savage 2 is something like that.

[Davvehz]

Whats the best skill build as a hunter/scout?

i mean with agility, strength and so on

[Lowblowmannen]

eh i dont understand anythin! i feel lllike a noob. i guess you are trying to destroy that tower? but man, it doesn't look like much of fun to die like that all the time

[JRPereira]

The goal in this situation is not so much to destroy the tower as to force the enemy to tank their economy in repairs. They ended up spending money they could've used to tech up and buy additional defenses to repair the single spire.

[xXxunf0rg1v1ngxXx]

@JRPereira may be a stupid thing to ask but do you get game modes like destroy the tower and team deathmatch

[JRPereira]

Not a stupid thing to ask. They were planned but they don't exist atm. I'd love to have the resources required to add 'em.

[razorlalala]

nice feed lol. fyi enemy gets 200 gold if spire killed u. do u think the damage u done costs 200 gold? i doupt its even 30 gold per death lol

[JRPereira]

At that point in the game, it cost at least like 250 gold to repair the tower, whereas they would earn less than 100 gold per death. That team ended up losing due to tanking their economy on repairs (look up the replay sometime).

[razorlalala]

wtf? u didnt even damage 30% of the tower health and u say it takes at least 250 gold to repair??? plus theres a chloro spire there so repair is free. and ur doing nth but feeding lol at the end of the day the tower is still there lol

[razorlalala]

i meant if theres a chloro spire.

[Pupixario]

Tower was still standing , they lost because he was level 3 and they were all 15 cause he kept feeding them and feeding them ....

[JRPereira]

Lol, HoN joke fail.

[vaidaspoliakas]

is thisgame online

[JRPereira]

It's entirely online - like Team Fortress 2/etc.

[spinster65]

yeah whats up with HoN i want to download it but i cant download or register?

[JRPereira]

It has closed beta pasted all over it. Not sure how you can miss that. You'll need to get an invite or wait til it goes open beta to get in.

[duncepr0duction]

good for killing power, but bad for you too collecting enough souls can give the horde opportunity to summon hell bourn

[swestalker]

recently quit wow, going to try this game while i wait for heroes of newerth, same developers and it looks kickass =P

[antisap]

@swestalker same great engine too

[JRPereira]

Heroes of Newerth's version of the engine is far superior to Savage 2's.

[burberrybedroom]

30 mins till mine finishes downloading this game looks hella fun better than shin megami

[PimeaTuuli]

good idea on the economy stuff, bud bad for your k:d ratio :)

so, what happened to that tower aftr all?

cheers, PimeaTuli on S2

[KaelMorhen]

OMG that's just stupid. There are many others, and much more easier ways to destroy towers.

[JRPereira]

It's really, really important to read up on everything that I've said regarding the video. It's not really a "how to take out spires" video - it's more about causing the enemy to tank their economy and lose because they can't afford tech and defenses (beasts lost miserably in that match).

[xxhermitxx]

wow althought i dont really understand what went on there, im downloading the game now this game looks fucking exhilarating and im disappointed i didn't know about it untill now. 5/5 subbed.

[taxtra]

Looks as much fun as beating your head into a wall... and you didn't even kill the tower. Wow, you fail and fail hard

if you wanna flame, consider how much time the guy put into the info popups in his video. and still no success... geezus

[JRPereira]

Yea, this was a rather extreme example of forcing the enemy team to dump their gold. Make sure you read the information I've posted - it explains that even if the spire doesn't go down, the enemy's economy is absolutely screwed through repairs.

The enemy team collapsed not too much after the events of the video - they couldn't afford to defend themselves or expand.

[falcord]

What's the name of the song? :O

[JRPereira]

Achilles' Last Stand, by Led Zeppelin

[xm422]

what i do against spires (i strictly play marskman, even if hell units are available) i stealth place a bomb then when there 6secs left for detonation i meele , like that enemys dont have time to react

[Hafizlufas]

That was the best in savage...there is no other game with such movement as leaping like S1 beasts...designers of S2 made big misstake, when they skipped it

[drag0nsknight]

COWER BEFORE THE MIGHT OF THE LEIGION!!! DIE STUPID BEASTS heheahahah!!

[Hafizlufas]

You want to see game where you need skills? Play savage 1

[ozzi999]

Hmmm beasts cant use leap in this can they? That was the best bit of savage 1 D:

[kanonfor]

this game requires alot of practise before you can play multiplayer, and thats very good!! :D

but i have a question,, when a game is over, i have leveled up to for instance 5.. when i start a new game im on 1 again, is it possible to hold on your level?

[JRPereira]

Your in-game level always starts at 1 at the beginning of each match.

[Dead7653]

This game doesnt suck. You just need to "Practice" on being fast to attack etc. This game is a MUST buy game :D

[FloatyPineapple]

I might get this game... Looks like it'll have a big learning curve. And can skill with guns equal someone else who has a high level? E.G if you're good at shooting can you beat someone, or do guns have varying degrees of damage based on your character?

[JRPereira]

The learning curve is pretty high, but once you get into it, it's insanely fun.

Ranged weapons do the same damage regardless of the in-game level (which increases as you gain experience in a match and starts at 0 at the beginning of each match).

Melee gains a bit of bonus if players put attribute points towards strength. Attribute points are given as players level up in a match and allow players to customize themselves to suit their playing style.

[NonGuruGuy]

JR, leave the noob alone, he just another one of the people that are bad at games and insult other people for fun

[woohoo96woo]

the vid made game look bad

[YoungDoughMaKEr]

this game look kinda stupid..

[arcannobi]

My strat against spires:

Spawn a builder - pick an unprotected spire - hug the spire (as close a posible)- before placing a shield - then just go nuts with melee. It is posible to get the spire down before the shield brakes.

[JRPereira]

Yea, I generally follow that strategy against unprotected spires, but when the enemy team is sitting on the spire you sometimes just have to charge headlong into the fray and start swinging.

[kuifje500]

lmao noob you cant play you only good what you can is kinda dieing in games

[MontageBringer]

Then why don't you upload a "Pro" video and show how to play this game?

[JRPereira]

I've been meaning to put up some sort of style video but in order to do so you need to be able to have a free third person chasecam and free camera option in the replay viewer controls.

I've also been begging S2 to add a third person chasecam and regular player view camera option (similar to the replay controls) to the spectator view ingame. That and team colors on the map while spectating.

Hopefully they'll do this by FCP3.

[MontageBringer]

Actually,I ment to reply to someone,but I guess YouTube has a glitch.

[kuifje500]

ehmmm did i ask you

[JRPereira]

Yes, you did. If you're not looking for a response then you shouldn't post ignorant inflammatory comments about a game that you clearly know nothing about.

[Lexon7]

shut up if u've got no plan! u can play this game as a demo for 5 hours and buy this game for 29.99$... and please don't talk rubbish

[kuifje500]

dont play this game its demo of 5 hours

[JRPereira]

Kuifje what are you talking about? Once the 5-hour demo of the online play is up, you buy it like any other game.

The lan play, replay viewing, and the rest of the features of the game don't even require you to buy it - they're free and are part of the game client that you don't have to pay anything to download. You don't even have to register on their site.

[awdoijwa]

ur a noob...u died like 10 times

[danielmm88]

reminds me kinda of WoW

[Greyblood]

nice strategy, I got to use that next time I play.

[superkyleawesome]

and you could've actually been useful, by just using a steam catapult

[TeshnosFire]

J00, are not getting point at all.

[Valk69]

Cool video Merc, ya had a few things in there I never thought of. - Valk

[JRPereira]

Just a side note - you should charge (double tap forward) right as you get into the spire's range. I tend to use it early as I'm impatient as hell.

[BernhardtFIN]

Cool. :)

[poison2003]

cool video merc

[droofus411]

Its amazing how if you would have had 1 more teammate with you any one of those times you attacked the spire would have been history. On a side note this video also explains how abStractDeath always manages to get the "Feeder" award.

[Ryo2810]

Crazy bastard, noobs don't like dying!